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I won't even grant you that he's the MJ of his time. MJ was defined by his heart and killer instinct. Bron doesn't even embody that. I'd imagine that if you built the teams around players like David Robinson, Pat Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon, and plenty of others like that, you could go 4-7 in the finals. Just swap Bron out for a Larry Bird on any of his Finals teams, and I can guarantee you it wouldn't be 4-7!!!
A little Finals history lesson for all the folks who just started watching basketball. What everyone fails to mention in that game 6 against the Suns where John Paxson hit the game winning 3 pointer was prior to that shot, nobody other the Michael Jordan scored a single point. Let that sink in; the Bulls scored 19 points in that fourth quarter and MJ scored the first 16 points until JP hit that shot. Thank you for your time.
Baller Baby he scored 16 of 19 in that quarter n he brought the ball up the floor with kJ pressing him on the last play Lebron don’t know wtf he’s talking about
Why is there even a debate about it .every finals in the bulls history every one at that time knew who the mvp was .us the fans his teammates the opponent the coaches the commissioner every one its not even a question so i don't get in today's argument .
Yeeeesssss. Both of these comments are spot on. Lebooboo loses more Finals than he wins. He had an 8pt game. Jordan NEVER would have allowed himself am 8pt game.
"Been chasing the ghost of MJ my entire career, yet i miserably failed to surpass his legacy. Guess il just be the next Kobe then, but i really wanna be like mike." - LBJ
Jordan had a 55 point game, and win, against Phoenix. And averaged 41 points per game in that Finals. And didn’t face Game 7. Lebron wants to point out Paxson hit a shot? Hilarious. Yea it was all Pippen and his 14 points against Phoenix, it was Paxsons 8 points a game, that was the difference. Hahahahahahhaha
Pippen averaged 21pts 8ast 9reb with 2 stl and a block against phoenix...people always try to diminish pippen to shine the light brighter on jordan. Of course pippen is a difference maker..this comment right here is a perfect example of what Lebron is saying.
@@m.friman2860 not everyone. stacey augmon, reggie Lewis, Derrick mckey were like 6'8" and all were know for their defense. he was also guarded by guys like drexler, Richmond and penny hardaway who were like 6'7" but they were mostly offense.
The thing is when MJ got smashed by Boston, he didn't take his jersey off and go to the Knicks.... He came back harder. Now having a young INEXPERIENCED Scottie Pippen whom had to take a minute to develop (he only averaged 7 pts at the time), and a rookies Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong (which became the nucleus of the first 3peat squad) to grow with him, and then they got Paxson from S.A. the obstacle this time was the Pistons, whom Jordan took "L's" from for those back to back Badboy titles..... He didn't switch teams by this time Pippen, Armstrong, Grant, and Paxson had grew with him and then he overcame. Now what they did afterwards you could call them a "super team" I simply don't think so... That squad came from playing with someone for so long you grew together, not ready made squads.
The fact he couldn't because there was no free agency is why he didn't take his jersey off. The revisionist MJ history grows every year. When he didn't win there was an acceptable reason for it; when he did it was solely because of his indomitable will and never because of a key player injury or weakening of a team because of the expansion draft. The ironic thing is MJ doesn't need the help. He balled out and won. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done against a fully intact Detroit Pistons not weakened by the expansion draft or against a Bird not hobbled by a bad back. Well never know but omitting the fact there were players/teams the Bulls couldn't beat is a bit unfair in the storytelling.
What was Jordans excuse for being a loser in his final NCAA career game and the first seven years in the NBA? Jordan was good but he doesn't belong to be mentioned with the truly greats!
@@terrydavis2936 his answer was to stick with his team and work with what he got. He never cried about any of it. He pushed hard to be the greatest. Whats lebrons excuse? Oh wait, he left the cavaliers since he couldnt win with them then came back and said he accomplished something. Bullshit.
It's crazy to me how easily people forget how great MJ was. I have to admit that at this point in my life, I've seen more of LeBron's games than that of Michael's. Every single time I watch LeBron, I always say, this guy is the best in the world. But every time I watch MJ play I feel like I am watching anime. The way he moves, the way he scores, his intensity, the ambiance of the entire arena when he executes a magnificent play is so other-wordly that it doesn't seem real to me. The eye test alone says a lot about the two players. You have the best in the world in LeBron James and then you have MJ who is this mythical, other-worldly entity who doesn't feel real. No one can be that good, right? LeBron's "block" on Iguodala made me jump up in excitement! But the way MJ executed his free throw line dunk in the dunk contest LITERALLY made me shed a tear. I know those are two completely different highlights, but I can think of so many other MJ highlights that resonate with me, I am not sure why I chose the dunk contest one. Maybe it resonated with me the most? You gotta admit, Wilkins vs Jordan sounds like two heavy weight boxers going at it at the highest level. LeBron is an all time pantheon player. But MJ was an artist and the basketball court was his canvas.
Lebron is ridiculous. MJ scored 14 of the 18 points in the 4th quarter of that Game 6 with Phoenix and he was the guy who had the ball in the beginning of that last possession. Dude just lies.
LOL lebron... MJ had nothing to do with the last play in '93? What about all the points in the 4th quarter up to the point? Who scored those? That's right... MJ!
@@TheSands83 ua-cam.com/video/BqKyStJLeXM/v-deo.html Jordan in-bounded the ball to Armstrong, Armstrong passed the back to Jordan nearing half court then passed to Pippen who passed to Grant then hit Paxson for the wide Open game winner. Lebron forgot to mention the play before that Jordan played lock down defense collected the rebound and took the ball full-court for the score under 5 seconds to give the Bulls an opportunity to even win this game as time was running out. Not to mention Jordan scoring 16 straight points in the 4th quarter ( carrying the offense ). Lebron is always trying to create/control the narrative.
@ 34:54 Jordan is baseline he beat two Knick's and still has to beat another Knick @ the rim. Lebron drive to an open rim in today's game. MJ played his whole career beating double team's and playing against physical team's. No argument. The ship sailed in 2011 and has been sailing since and Lebron can never board that ship. Michael Jordan will Always Be The Greatest of All Time.
I love LeBron James top five all times for me.... but Jordan is and always will be the undisputed goat... the man was ruthless on the court took no prisoners 💯
@Seldom Scenn you just ruined all your credibility, all of those players THEMSELVES don't agree with those spots. LeBron top 30? Yeah sure, maybe in his early cavs days but now? Hes top 3 at the LEAST.
@Seldom Scenn Also, 4 MVPs, 4 Championships, 4 FMVP, a scoring title, 15 All NBA teams, 6 all-defensive teams, all-time leader in playoff points, minutes, steals, 10 finals appearances, 3rd all-time scoring, and he is gonna finish all-time leading scorer, along with being top 5 in assists atleast. He is the only player to have 30K+ points and over 10K rebounds and assists, and he is a top 3 clutch player ever. He is second in PER, 3rd in winshares, second in finals points, two olympic gold medals, 4th in PPG, most 30 Point games in the playoffs, all time playoff steals leader, only player to lead both teams in major statistical categories in a finals, averaged a triple double in the finals, and bought cleveland his first championship. I mean he gave like 40 players their first ring, give this man his respect. Top 30? Read this guys description, even he says LeBron is top 10, which in itself is a massive understatement. Also, where is Jordan in your top 5? Funny you mention Dr J at 2, he thinks LeBron is the GOAT. Larry also thinks Jordan is the GOAT, same with Magic, and Wilt doesn't think he is the GOAT either.
Lebum lost to a mid 30's celtics team and ran out of town to form a super team and you lose to JJ Berea and the Jet and got blown out and swept by an Ancient Spurs team in NBA record fashion before returning to Cleveland to play with two other All Stars on his team and is the only one to get swept twice in the Finals. Lebum has paid people off like Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wrong to re shape the narrative to make those who didn't see MJ play think other than the reality of MJ being the best
Yeah and I felt he could’ve eventually pushed through that Boston team but he had to jump ship. Jordan got his ass kicked by the Pistons multiple times and still rode through it until he got through that hump.
axl the slacker both plays the double teamed Jordan. On the Paxson shot they double teamed him in the backcourt. On the Kerr shot in the huddle Jordan told Kerr he was going to pass it to him if Stockton double teamed and that's exactly what happened.
Richard Bass thank you! Take that Shannon Sharp. The nerve of him to act like Paxon was the man in that game 6 vs. Suns. And the Kerr shot, MJ set that up. This stuff is on video. "Watch Stockton coming to double. Be ready." MJ basically changed Kerr's life. And if you watch that play MJ coulda still shot the ball with a decent look instead of passing to Kerr. Now that's making your teammates better. If LBJ makes his teammates better like he's praised for, how does one explain the JR Smith blunder?
Eric Hall Jordan was not double teamed in 93. At all. It was just simply a perfect play executed by the Bulls. It was on everyone's mind that Jordan was gonna take it, but he was never tag teamed
Michael Jordan was always in control of his game he played every game like it was championship . everyone who played with Michael Jordan was on top of their game and he gave credit to all these guys who made big game winning shots.. MJ and the Chicago bulls had a flow that is not seen today.. he will always be the greatest
When Lebron speaks about how Jordan wasn't even involved in the final possession where the 3 pointer was scored is exactly what Kobe was trying to relay what Phil Jackson told him. Empowering your teammates isn't just about YOU passing them the ball, it is about instilling confidence as A TEAM so everyone can step up when needed. Lebron doesn't understand this because if he did he wouldn't demand the Lebron system and would actually train with his team and implement a style that would be more effective instead of moaning about how your team mates are trash.
Crazy part is, Jordans percentage at the 3 point, is only 1 percent lower than Lebron, but Jordan's shot average from beyond 3ft is a tad bit over 50% chance, while Lebron is at 20% chance to make a shot at anything beyond 3ft.
He's beaten The Charlottes with Alonzo, Larry Johnson, and Kendall Gill, Dell Curry. He's beaten The Indianas with the Davis brothers and Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson. He's beaten the Knicks with Ewing, Oakley, Starks, Mason, Xavier McDaniel, Gerald Wilkens and Riley as coach. He's beaten the Orlando's with Shaq, Penny, Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson He's beaten the Detroits with Isiah, Dumars, The Microwave, Mahorn, Rodman, Lambier, and Chuck Daley as coach. He's beaten Atlanta when they had Wilkens and that bunch. He's beaten the Clevelands with Mark Price, Craig Elo, Ron Harper (When he was good), Larry Nance, Brad D in the middle and Lenny Wilkens as coach. Just The East. He's beaten The Lakers with Magic, Worthy, Divac, Byron, etc... He's beaten The Sun with Barkley, KJ, Dan M, etc... The trailblazers with Clyde, Buck W, Jerome K, Terry Porter, etc... The Super Sonics with Payton, Kemp, Detlef S., etc.. with George Karl as coach. And Utah twice! Before he left Hakeem was in Houston, and David Robinson neighborhood was in S.A. the parity in the NBA was spread pretty even, opposed to how it is today. Jordan could have tapped out like LBJ did in Dallas after they lost that first game to the Lakers... this is where him and LBJ is different....They came back and won 4 str8 on L.A.'s ass....(that's where the Assassin comes from) LBJ and MJ (the GOAT) are in two separate (by a lot) planets....MJ is just a different kind of animal.
Marlo Stanfield I Agree. That's a lot great players on great teams. Let some people tell it Jordan played against weak talent. Which is so untrue, he played against a lot of great and tough players of the time.
6 NBA Finals, 6 NBA Championships, 6 NBA Finals MVPs without allowing a game 7 and that in a era when the NBA was played by men not 80% female males crying, whining and flopping every other minute. MJ is the greatest of all time and Kobe is 2nd.
A T that's how dumb y'all shooter fans are kobe and mj just because they are shooters yall like them because shooting is ez but dunking not so dumb kobe ist close to top 10
Ima have to disagree with Kobe being second there. If we had to choose THE ONE, arguably Mike wouldn't be THE #1 no questions asked. But he is most certainly top 3. What I mean by that is, no one would be mad if that top 3 was put in literally any order, no matter who is 1,2, or 3. You can't say that with Lebron or Kobe. Kobe was dope but he hardly makes top 5.
I think with the kind of mind set IQ, skills and build jordan is balance and excellent in everyway possible, an all rounder player! A great leader aside from being a great scorer his also a great defender! Him and kobe has the same mind set mentality, will and hunger for the game! As they both hate loosing! They're fighter not a quiter (sorry lebron excuses doesn't make you a winner) Kobe is good i love him too but for me Jordan will still be and always will be the greatest player of all time! Top 10 1.Michael Jordan 2.Kobe brayant 3.Magic Johnson 4.Steve Nash 5.Kareem Abdul Jabar 6.Wilt Chainberlin 7.Derek Rose 8.Kevin Durant 9.Lebron James 10.Shaquil O'Neal
This is no longer even a dispute. LeBron is like Moses of Egypt, he will take his people to the promise land but he will NOT ENTER. MJ is at another level
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Michael Jordan played with a bunch of nobody's Scottie puppet Steve Kerr Toni kukoc bj armstrong bill Cartwright and everybody else with the exception of Dennis Rodman who was never a scoring forward he only averaged 6 points then . but Jordan helped make his teammates better and helped mold them dare I say into championship material . LeBron was to scared to try that
Derrick Williamson hahahaha MJ never did...b4 Rodman was traded to the BULLS he was a scoring forward in PISTON averaging double double as well as his time in SPURS... I remember RODMAN scoring 20+ pts and 10 rebounds per game during that time... coach PJ turn him into a monster defender/rebounder and rule player not MJ One thing more that BULLS team was almost 9 years in the making to be that tough and be a super team ..So don't dare compare LBJ's team who is probably more vulnerable but LBJ always made in to the play offs and finals then Wins a Ring. One thing is for sure... MJ is nothing w/o the BULLS!!!!!! That's it... Wanna know why? MJ played 2 seasons with the WIZARDS... But he never made it at least in Play offs last record is 37-45 out of play offs considering having a prolific team mates like Larry Hughes and Jerry Stockhouse who at they prime during that time..
Derrick Williamson I know Lebron Last 7 of 8 Years Should have Won Rings With His Picked All Star Teams and Lebron Never Would Committe To Cleveland for them To Build around Him Correctly and LeBron Could not Get people to Come to Cleveland n those First 7 Years .
Lebron made Mario Chalmers, norris cole, ronny tariff, Eddie curry, Shane battier, and a bunch of either nobodies or old ass was somebodies champions...
He lost Kyrie because he wanted to take the ball out of his hands and run the show. You can't do that and expect a true point guard to still want to play alongside you.
Samuel Huggins He's still doing that. You can't tell me that those other players couldn't have done more if given the opportunity. Everything is centered around LeBron. I keep hearing people say that LeBron gets the other players involved. How? Unless they're helping him with his stat padding, they're no use to him.
Xavier Vega Stop it!!! Irving averaged 6.1 assist per page, in his 3rd season. That was the season before Lebron came back to Cleveland and took the ball out of his hands!
Mr Jordan will always be the Greatest Basketball player of all time. He always done what was needed to win a game and at the same time put on a good show. Great video😁😎
To me i don't even know how it even came to this .when i look at lebron style of play their is a lot of past players i would never rate him above let alone put any wear close to micheal jordan .
it just shows you how bad LeBron wants to degrade and diminish Mike's legacy..Mike threm the inbound pass and got a return pas on that play before handing it over to Pippen...unless he's blind...
Bill 11 Rings Russell The Paxon shot to win the series was a set play, which was executed perfectly. The Kerr shot was also executed as part of a plan formulated in the huddle during a timeout. Kerr even said in various interviews that Jordan told him that he'll be doubled by Stockton and to be ready to take the shot. The Ray Allen shot, on the other hand, was a stream of luck bailout for the Heat and Lebron's "legacy." That's the difference.
Julez Verne No that was all planed lmao and? Doesn't matter he hit it it's over and lebron took the last shot why everyone don't remember how much points ray had in game 6 and without lebron the wouldn't even be there
They talk about game 6 of the 93 finals and Paxon hitting the 3 to win it but there’s a key piece to that story that the LeBron lovers always leave out. That 3 point shot by Paxon is the only basket scored by a Bulls player not named Michael Jordan in the entire 4th quarter. So don’t give me this Michael had help BS if it weren’t for Michael Jordan the Bulls do not win that game if not for Michael Jordan the Bulls have still never been to the finals. When the game is on the line in this type of situation LeBron doesn’t step up like MJ he quits on his team he disappears just like he did in this year’s finals starting in OT of game 1 and he never showed up after. LeBron should never be mentioned in the same conversation as Michael Jordan
Pot....meet kettle Kinda like how MJ fans claim that Ray Allen saved Lebron against the Spurs when it was Lebron that brought the team back and also won the game in OT? Funny how MJ fans don't like it when you use the same illogical arguments against MJ. And Paxson is hardly the only Bull to hit big game winners for MJ. MJ fans forgot them all. It's not even the only time Paxson did it. Paxson won game 5 for the Bulls against the Lakers in 1991. Paxson was even named player of the game.
HarpoSpoke LeBron James is the one speaking claiming that it was Paxon that saved Jordan and the Bulls in the 4th quarter of that game. He’s trying to diminish Jordan’s legacy and what he did carrying his team to help solidify his own legacy. Sounds kind of hypocritical to me considering how many times he bailed out on his teams when things got tough.
Many people love and respect Lebron James for who he is and what he has done for the game of Basketball, but Most, I mean most people love and respect Michael Jordan because he always takes responsibilities for his game and for his team. And does not make any excuses at all. That alone makes him the GOAT. Not to mention what he has done for the game of basketball.
41:20 The NBA was once made up almost entirely of GROWN MEN, whose pro careers typically began at age 22, after 4 years of college basketball. Those 4 years are EXTREMELY CRITICAL to the development of any young man’s maturity, education, and character. MJ entered the pros after only 3 years of college, while guys like Magic and Isiah entered after only 2 years. At that time, such players were the EXCEPTION and NOT the RULE. Today’s NBA is almost entirely occupied by young men who have been allowed to SKIP this critical stage of development, which has led to a league full of FREAKISHLY TALL CHILDREN. No one is denying that LEBRON is a GREAT PLAYER. However, even if his numbers were even remotely close to those of Mr. Jordan (which they are NOT), the fact is that the league Lebron James has dominated over the past 15 years has been a league that is WOEFULLY INCOMPARABLE to the one that Michael Jordan dominated.
The 80's throughout the late 90's was stacked! I believe Lebron didn't face the level of comp that Jordan, Bird, Magic ect did I truly feel that way...how do you win 73 games and lose in the finals? it's like working for no wage
Wrong. Just because they aren't "grown men" doesn't mean shit for example Jesse Ownes ran 10.3 and was the fastest man in the world he ran against other "grown men" but high schoolers today run 10.3 young ppl are running sub 10 against Usain Bolt age doesn't matter it's about the skill set which that athlete has // skill wise players are better today LeBron plays against better athletes LeBron is better than Jordan and hes arguable Greater
I think what I hear you saying is that Jordan just may have benefited somewhat from his years under Dean Smith before entering the NBA. If you had the chance to play 2, 3, or 4 NCAA seasons for Wooden, Smith, Bobby Knight, Coach K., Dale Brown, John Calipari, Jim Boeheim, Jimmy V., isn't there a chance you'd become a better person and/or NBA pro having played for them?
People not realizing there big men back in the day where way more skillful then these power forward/ centers now back then (Lb) wouldn't have made it....
So to all LeBron fans go see the greatest player Michael Jordan games.... Jordan was a killer when he smelled blood LeBron doesn't do that and he makes alot of excuses
But LeBron is taller, stronger, more skilled, a better 3 pt shooter with a better handle and more court vision. Its Darwinian, dude. More people play basketball today on planet earth than in MJ's day. Thus, you have Steph, Giannis, KD, Kyrie etc. doing things that old timers never dreamed of. Name a 7 footer from 1990 who handled the ball and shot like KD?
Phil Wilson the league is soft dude... plus Jordan played with hall of famers... and the league was tougher back then... I don't think LeBron could take that beating night in and night out he crys to much for a foul now.... oh and another thing Jordan is 6-0 in the finals never allowed a game 7 and has 6 finals MVPS... plus has better shoes than LeBron
Im so sick of this debate ... It took this dude like 15 years get a intermediate game... And and he needs to learn how to play without the ball in the offense
You just based his entire career on year 15... lmao, hes been off ball before this year w/ no reliable scorer or ball handler. when MJ was like that w/o Pippen no one hated. Yet LeBron "he needs to learn" even if he didn't, what did NOT learning to cost him in career? He has the most fucking accomplishments since MJ and Kareem. Stfu clown, all types of ignorant critcism
When people say "Lebron can't play off ball" what they really mean is "Lebron can't shoot off the catch" , because that is really the off-ball aspect Lebron is not good at. He is DEVASTATING cutting to the basket without the ball.
its so silly of lebron to try and live in MJ's shadow.. lebron should make his OWN LEGACY and NOT use MJ as the yardstick.. that to me is a real lost in any common sense. Lebron should learn to stfu and let his basketball do the talking like MJ did during his era. with all that said. MJ is still and has always been the real GOAT!!! Period
I think the next goat will give MJ a much bigger greater respect than himself, a kind of goat everyone will look upon like MJ , not a self proclaimed king who only loves to showoff and easily givesup who makes excuses w/o class! And had to build a superteam just to win!
sabin97 Over 3000pts in a season and lead league in steals, and most blocks ever for shooting guard. Follows that season with 35 pts gm and DPOY. Leads in steals again and more blocks than any guard ever. Jordan never played with a dominant center or another player that demanded a double team. Jordan basically beat super teams in first threepeat almost single-handedly. Second threepeat, Pippen was a bonafide super star, and Rodman was a hall of famer, although he didn't score much. Jordan basically dominated the NBA with a bunch of role players for 11 years. He had Rodman for 3 yrs. Rodman's dominant years were in Detroit. Pippen was great the second threepeat.
Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time 6-0 in the Finals and he 3 peated twice in Finals series wins, Lebitch Blames 3-6 in the Finals and he 3 peated twice in Finals series losses!
Lebitch blames still a great player, the Finals record is not what it all comes down to. you just disrepect his entire name b/c of his roster vs Golden State? What was MJs roster vs the shitty Utah Jazz, the fucking Suns? Stop being so ignorant with your life, disrepect somebody b/c of the Warriors roster. @Chrbitch Dragay
Shitty roster Jazz? 1997 Jazz -MVP Karl Malone in the Finals along with a past prime but still great Stockton. - This Jazz team beat Shaq's Lakers 4-1, and Shaq was held to 22 ppg on 49% after doing 26.2 ppg on 56% in the season. So much for him being too big and strong for the 90s defenses to handle - Shaq has a combined 1-8 playoff record against Karl Malone's Jazz, even after he made the NBA Finals in 1995. - This Jazz team, even past their prime, also locked down several superstars from the 2000s. 1998 Jazz - In the 1999 playoffs, this Jazz team shut down Chris Webber. The same Webber that nearly led the Kings past the 2002 Lakers with an injured Peja Stojakovic. After having 20 ppg on 49% in the season, Webber was held to 15 ppg on 39% against the Jazz. Webber also struggled against the 2002 Jazz. - The Jazz in 1998 beat the Spurs with a rookie Tim Duncan 4-1. Duncan averaged the same amount of points that he did in the regular season, but his FG% dropped from 55% to 49%. - Sure, Duncan was a rookie, but he also won Finals MVP the very next year in 1999 as a sophomore. - The Jazz then swept Shaq's Lakers in the 1998 WCF. - The Jazz went 62-20 in 1998 even with Stockton missing 18 games.
Suns roster - 93 Suns with MVP Charles Barkley. - They also had Kevin Johnson. In 1990 against Magic's Lakers, who had gone 11-0 before losing in the Finals the year before, Kevin Johnson upset Magic as he led his 5 seed Suns past the number 1 seed Lakers in the second round. And that was without Charles Barkley. - Kevin Johnson's 6 best seasons outperform Chris Paul's 6 best seasons from a scoring and assisting perspective, and Johnson did it without the inflation benefit. - Kevin Johnson was only a 3x all-star, but Chris Paul was as high as 2nd in MVP Voting - proof that the standards of high quality are far lower in the 2000s. - He also outperformed Derrick Rose's MVP seasons -Kevin Johnson, along with Magic Johnson, is the only player to average 20+ ppg and 10+ apg and 50% FG in 2 seasons. He fell barely short of a record 3rd season in 1989/90 when he shot 49.9%. Along with Oscar and Isiah, he is the only player to average 20+ ppg and 10+ apg for 3 straight years, and fell barely short of tying them with a record 4th straight year when he averaged 19.7 ppg. It says a lot that Jordan beat Magic, Isiah, and KJ, shutting down both Isiah and KJ while also taking care of Magic in the OT of Game 3 in the 1991 Finals. -The Suns went 62-20 even with Kevin Johnson missing 32 games. A testament to their huge depth and Barkley's greatness. -Jordan had a harder time scoring against the 93 Knicks than in any of his four playoff series against the Pistons. LeBron never and ever face those kind of teams
Lebron was wrong, Jordan received the ball in bound from bj. Mike dribbled up the court passed it Scottie who drove to the basket passed to Horace who found Paxton
Dylan Cox how u the goat if u get swept in the first round? Lebron got swept by the spurs tim Manu parker and pop and got swept by the greatest team of all time gsw with Durant curry klay and green and what did lebron have? Nothing NOTHING his entire career u know that James is the only player that scored 50+ points in the finals and lost the game? It happened 6 times and he's the only one that lost that's how trash his team is I would not play the next 3 games just to show everybody how trash this team is they would get blowout 150-50
Bill 11 Rings Russell.. MJ went up against SUPERTEAMS in the first round with NO BODY else on his team. How he not getting swept? It's not like he wasn't balling averaging over 30ppg. It's not like Lebron was by himself and went up against HOUSTON or GS in the FIRST round. Swap MJ with Lebron and he's getting swept in the first round, and MJ is going to at least win 2 games playing with Kevin Love. Stop saying Lebron's team is trash... Lebron's system is Trash there's a difference.
If LeBron James was playing in the Michael Jordan era, he wouldn't have won one ring. So keep chasing rings LeBron. you will never get there, Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
These kids talking about LeWeak James is the goat are buying Air Jordans at a record pace 30 years later and have never seen him play other than on UA-cam. I gaurantee you people will not buy LeWeak sneakers 10 years from now. MJ still have the best selling sneakers today and the first model was released in 1984. MJ is the blueprint of the brand. It's not even just about numbers. He bought style and charisma to the game. He was the first to wear the baggie shorts and the low socks. He was the first to do post game interviews suited and booted making 10x more money off the court than on the court. And all the players today think they are a brand. Don't nobody want to buy your shit if you are not a winner. You have to have a game before you think you have a brand.
MJ was the original. It's a new Era now, new Sherrif. if LeBron James is weak why are opposing coaches in the Finals, former MJ teammates not saying hes weak while dropping like 60 pts vs a superteam? Talking shit on LeBron like MJ has no skeletons in his closet, swept in the 1st round so many times, LBJ with no star got swept vs 4. ofc
1. Era 2. Real big men center 3. Mike resume is better 4. The eastern conference was way better 5. Mike style of game look better 6. Mike impact waa better 7. If Mike had Wayne bosh erving love Allen, Mike would not lose shit he didn't lose with pippen & he made pippen 8. Mike is 6'6 in a era it was ruff in the whole . 9. All his final it was a story book ending 91 vs magic the MOVIE 92. Again derxler the best sg vs sg the srug shooting 3pts . 93 vs chuck avg 40 pts 96 vs Payton & Kemp 72 -10 with a ring . 2 game winner again the jazz 10. Mike dunk on real big center that 6 11 & better that score & block Jordan had go again .. soooo please stop mj vs lbj
blink2187...Jordan did make Pippen....they won enough to make it to the playoffs with cokeheads on his team.....Lebron lost with 2 other all stars on his team to a 1 all star team.
hud1231 what 2 all stars did LeBron lose with to 1 all star? & Jordan made the playoffs without Pippen, that's almost as good as LeBron carrying 2 teams to the finals I guess lmao.
MJ silent while Lebron's more outspoken!? Actions always speak louder than words! MJ did his talking on the court & let others explain who was the best!
USCG MBCM retied... I think when people bring up Lebron being more outspoken I think they are talking about Lebron the man off court who has stood up for things like politically. For better to worse MJ was silent on those types of things.
Mj silent because he is the biggest winner in this. This is free advertisement for him. Air Jordans sales are soaring right now. Lebron still has to stir the pot but Mj is just sitting back reaping the billions.
I've always said it, this comparison is ridiculous and should've never even begun. MJ simply on another planet level wise. I can use #'s or no numbers and easily cement it.
LeBron forgot that the last quarter in Phoenix Jordan had the Bulls’ last 9(!) of their 12 points! Paxson’s game winning 3-pointer were the only points scored by another Bull that quarter!! Look it up!! Don’t take my word for it.....
MJ played in an era when it is extremely difficult to score when hand check was still allowed. If MJ would have played in this era he would score 60 per night attacking the rim and shooting all over the court.
jopol14 thats no fun to Jordan at all for grew to love basketball in the most toughest and challenging Golden Era, that no team in this era would dream to take part in, Jordan will dominate todays basketball like it's his own personal playground!
cheeze zlayer worst case scenario hed be shooting free throws like anything if he plays in todays game. imagine no more hand check. that is why lebron is a beast going to the rim uncontested.
jopol14 lolz, your right! Using his bulky body to charge right into the rim, with lazy defenders, any player can do that! Is no contest, mj is smart he will try to make contact diving into the paint, or shooting fadeaways into the perimeter drawing foul, before they know it, they be loosing players more than they've been losing pts 😂😂😂
Funniest thing about how idiotic Lebron’s comments are is that Paxson’s last shot was the only time a player other than Jordan had scored in that fourth quarter. The beauty of that play is they all expected it to go to Jordan because of that. Lebron as usual, is the master of the self-own 😂
When you want to say someone is great at something you say they're the Michael Jordan of insert field. Michael Jordan is iconic, he is the standard, he is the Greatest of All Time in Basketball. Jordan is in the company of people so famous they are recognized by one name - Pele in football, Ali in Boxing come to mind.
Mj was greatest to ever play to this day. To dethrone him would truly take a herculin effort. It truly would take some one not human to take that goat spot away.
Jordan averaged 37.1 PPG on 48% shooting on 27 shots per game, very next year averaged 35 PPG on 53% shooting, very next year averaged 32-8-8 on 53% shooting. Unguardable.
josh Burke Nobody has ever scored over 32pts on 53% shooting, and had 8 rebounds and 8 assists, and most blocks for a shooting guard, and nearly 200 steals.
I am old enough to have seen the end of Jabbar's career, the end of prime to end of Julius Erving's career, all of Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Shaq, Kobe, Iverson, Duncan, Malone...both Karl and Moses, Akeem the dream, the Admiral, Clyde the glide, and anybody else from the late 70's up to now and I have watched enough film and listened to enough stories to know of the greatness of Wilt, Hawkins, JoJo White, Reed, Baylor, Robertson, Mikan, Russell, Pistol Pete, The Logo, Pee-Wee Kirkland, Len Bias, Earl Manigold, and essentially anybody worth discussing in a good basketball conversation. The conversation begins and ends with four players. *Wilt was the most dominant force ever, but he didn't have a game that made his teammate better like Russell...so less rings. Russell and Wilt both played with less talent around the league overall due to issues of race and business bottom lines that forced owners to play inferior talent due to increasing worries about demographic shifts and how that messes with marketability. *Jabbar was the greatest scoring big-man and his numbers bear that out, but he frequently came up short in clutch moments which may not be able to be blamed all on him...since he has to get the ball from a point guard back in those days....and sometimes they didn't give it to you based on what they saw. *Lebron is a monster...plain and simple. He should be counted as one of the best when he had the pressure of following Jordan's era! He is dominant at times and has an exceptionally high basketball I.Q. Though he can be a liabilty at the end of games due to his lack of clutch shooting and his less than stellar free throw shooting which tells you what you need to know about his shooting touch...which I bring up when discussing Magic...cause he often gets a bad rap as a not so good shooter...when magic could fill it up when he decided he needed to. Lebron is truly amazing when he decides he wants to play like the best player on the planet....that just doesn't seem to be all the time. In some games....he should be selfish because he is the best scoring option and yet he defers. Being the man is more than having the most talent...it's also having everybody in the building knowing who is getting the ball and saying..."give me the rock" and then scoring that bucket! And that brings us to *Michael. Because he played a physical above the rim style of basketball it is often forgotten that he was a clutch shooter when open shots presented themselves or when he needed to create them because defenses would pack the lane to shut down his drives. He wanted the ball in big moments and never shied away from big moments. He was the most creative player around the basket with moves and getting the ball up on the glass with a chance to go in...even when he couldn't see the rim. Straight line speed and vertical leap were amazing and he could take a beating from real centers...which the game has few of today. Jordan was also a bit of a physical specimen after transforming his body and adding muscle to combat the "Jordan Rules"...which were essentially opposing teams deciding to foul him and hit him often to wear him down during games. His point averages say enough about his scoring ability and his 6 rings in 6 finals appearances say enough about his championship pedigree! He did all of this while also being considered the best defender of positions 1-3 of his era. He had a handle that could rival many PG's of his era and if rules had been as lax...I am sure we would see many more crossovers from him rather than him dribbling around guys off spins and going through his legs to get defenders off balance. By the eye test to those having watched both play...it's not really close, because MJ was doing incredible things on the basketball court and it was clear he had no equal. I suggest those people watch LeBron more closely, cause he is incredible and it's closer than any of us MJ fans would like to admit, but MJ in his prime would beat LeBron 1-on-1 due to his shooting. Yeah...LeBron would back him down, but LeBron isn't Akeem or Duncan with his back to the basket and he doesn't have a fade away the likes of Bernard King or Karl Malone. MJ would use his speed and shooting once LeBron misses and has to deal with MJ's mouth...which is a no brainer who wins the psychological match-up!
You made allot of good points. I haven't seen as much as you have. Michael Jordan and LeBron James I definitely seen them play. One hundred percent positive that it ain't close. Theirs things that Michael Jordan has done and no player has done on the court to this day. We all pick guys we like. But this is about honesty and integrity. Michael Jordan has no equals on the court. Believe me I looked. It'll be a long time before it might happen again. As of now and beyond, Michael Jordan is the greatest of all times until a real successor takes and elevates his game beyond Michael Jordan game to become the goat. We definitely have a long wait on our hands.
I swear if lebron james ever ever dream about beating michael jordan's legacy then he better wake up and apologize and know that his dream was really a nightmare on air jordan street.
“If LeBron beats these Warriors, he will be the GOAT”. A week later after Cavs get swept: “If LeBron joins the Lakers and wins a title, he will be the GOAT”!! This shit will never end 🤔🤔🤔🤔
MJ was and is a global phenomenon. He went to Europe with a Dream Team of NBA Hall of Fame basketball players and all eyes were on him. People waited hours just to see him. If Lebron did the same thing right now with a group of NBA all-stars, people would wait to see KD or Steph. He’s not even the best player in the NBA anymore. There isn’t even a debate to begin with. MJ is the greatest basketball player to ever play, period.
And I guarantee MJ was yelling and waving his arms in the air screaming pass it , hit me, im over here! If it was up to him he would've had it! And if Paxson missed he would've said they should've gave me the ball. Oh, and that was his best finals by far vs Phoenix, 41 ppg and like 8 rpg an 6 apg
Totoy Kupalin MJ averaged 43 ppg and GOT SWEPT thats prime, he had a shit team vs 4 HoF. I would rather have fans understand who MJ faced 'early' vs what he faced in his prime. If MJ was in his prime he still would've got fucking swept dickhead (especially by Golden State). I also would rather have fans who understand when MY team isn't comparable to a Superteam and it's a team game. Name the team with more talent than the Bulls in the 90s? Exactly. LBJ average 35 ppg vs 4 All Stars = still shouldnt get swept. could've averaged 40 and got swept, look at his team, 1 great player isn't beating GS
So you basically saying that MJ got a better teammates than LeBron? Lmao Lebron joining the Heat with DWADE who already won a championships and had averaged 30ppg, and CBOSH who had averaged 24ppg. Both were already in their PRIMES and ALLSTARS. Again.. Scottie wasn't an Allstar when he joined the Bulls. Lebron Left HEAT to join Cavs who already had Kyrie 25ppg, and they also acquired KLOVE who had a 26ppg, 10+ rpg season. Lebron has never won without TWO additional Allstars. LEBRON has played on 7 SUPERTEAMS. MJ did it with just one legit Allstar (Scottie) three times and then 3 more times (w/Rodman) MJ THREEPEATED Twice. Lebron got swept in Finals Twice whenever he had less than TWO other allstars with him. Think about that..
LeBron already had Wade who is already a top 5 SG ad CBOSH who had averaged 24ppg but still got beaten by an old Mavericks who just got one legit veteran Nowitzki
Jordan played in the East during an era that East teams dominated the NBA!!! It battled tough teams like the 2-time champion Detroit, 16-time champion Celtics and strong contenders like New York, Atlanta & Mismi. Lebron played mostly in the East but in an era where West teams dominate the NBA.
@ 1:55, Lebron talks about John Paxson making the game winning shot of the 93 finals, Bulls vs Suns. This is true! What Lebron fails to mention is that John's shot was the THE ONLY SHOT MADE BY A BULL OTHER THAN MICHAEL JORDAN, in the fourth quarter!!!! And, let's give Horace Grant some credit for blocking Kevin Johnson's last shot attempt.
this video was a waste of time. it's too long and isn't going to change anybody's mind. you think people who grew up watching wilt chamberlain or Kareem and think they're the greatest are going to change their mind and say Jordan is now the greatest?
Gundilero101 we don't even need to go that far. Indiana should have won that series in the first round and they only had one all star in Oladipo. LBJ ain't no GOAT. also, goats don't flop like that.
Mj is the goat period!!! This video was excellent!!! Was that mobb deep in the background music in the Mj highlights, the song with the Asian vibe? If so, you should make a video of Mj's highlights and put that song as background!!! With that song, it felt like some Bruce Lee enter the dragon type vibe lol!!! Mj straight thee Kung-fu grandmaster artist with them highlights and song!!!! Straight fire with that song!
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:-) Simple: LeBron is the Michael Jordan of his time, but Michael Jordan is the Michael Jordan of all time!
Uno de los mejores comentarios que he leído en el eterno debate Jordan vs Lebrón
I agree with the last part you said....
Well said 100%
I won't even grant you that he's the MJ of his time. MJ was defined by his heart and killer instinct. Bron doesn't even embody that. I'd imagine that if you built the teams around players like David Robinson, Pat Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon, and plenty of others like that, you could go 4-7 in the finals. Just swap Bron out for a Larry Bird on any of his Finals teams, and I can guarantee you it wouldn't be 4-7!!!
Sorry man, but that is Kobe.
A little Finals history lesson for all the folks who just started watching basketball. What everyone fails to mention in that game 6 against the Suns where John Paxson hit the game winning 3 pointer was prior to that shot, nobody other the Michael Jordan scored a single point. Let that sink in; the Bulls scored 19 points in that fourth quarter and MJ scored the first 16 points until JP hit that shot. Thank you for your time.
That's not even true.
Baller Baby he scored 16 of 19 in that quarter n he brought the ball up the floor with kJ pressing him on the last play Lebron don’t know wtf he’s talking about
No, look at the score sheet; he scored all 16 points before Paxon's 3.
Dude you need to go back and watch the game
Why is there even a debate about it .every finals in the bulls history every one at that time knew who the mvp was .us the fans his teammates the opponent the coaches the commissioner every one its not even a question so i don't get in today's argument .
Larry Bird called him God. The guy who trash talked anyone in his way praised a 2-year Jordan. Let that sink in.
Yeeeesssss. Both of these comments are spot on. Lebooboo loses more Finals than he wins. He had an 8pt game. Jordan NEVER would have allowed himself am 8pt game.
Hes not even better than Kobe. Straight up.
MJ Rookie season was better than Kobe MVP season. His 2nd season Bird calls him "God". That man was a problem
@@DJQuan718 you're right, all the way. 💯💯💯
Back handed comment, perhaps Larry meant you could have God on your team an you will still lose to us.
I feel so lucky to have been around for the Jordan Era. Gave my Dad n I so much to bond over. Greatest memories
"Been chasing the ghost of MJ my entire career, yet i miserably failed to surpass his legacy. Guess il just be the next Kobe then, but i really wanna be like mike."
- LBJ
10 yrs from now it’ll be some other guy that’s supposed to be better then Jordan. I’ve lived through 5 “next Jordan’s”
Best comment ever...this sums it all up...you will be hearing about the 6th and 7th in 15 years lol
grant hill, jerry stackhouse, kobe bryant, lebron james, kevin durant
@@887Sinatra weren't Vince Carter, Michael Finley, and Iverson also the "next Jordan"? harold minor aka baby Jordan lol.
BlueLetter TV Vince carter
BlueLetter TV grant hill, Vince carter, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and I think jerry stackhouse
Jordan had a 55 point game, and win, against Phoenix. And averaged 41 points per game in that Finals. And didn’t face Game 7.
Lebron wants to point out Paxson hit a shot? Hilarious.
Yea it was all Pippen and his 14 points against Phoenix, it was Paxsons 8 points a game, that was the difference. Hahahahahahhaha
Pippen averaged 21pts 8ast 9reb with 2 stl and a block against phoenix...people always try to diminish pippen to shine the light brighter on jordan. Of course pippen is a difference maker..this comment right here is a perfect example of what Lebron is saying.
Jordan was also defended by slow ass Dan majerle or a shorter Kevin Johnson. easy to score against those 2 especially if get to go 1 on 1 with them.
@@imsljr420 Everybody was short and slow against Jordan! That's what he would make great players look like against him 😂
@@m.friman2860 not everyone. stacey augmon, reggie Lewis, Derrick mckey were like 6'8" and all were know for their defense. he was also guarded by guys like drexler, Richmond and penny hardaway who were like 6'7" but they were mostly offense.
@@imsljr420 And Jordan still bust their asses
The thing is when MJ got smashed by Boston, he didn't take his jersey off and go to the Knicks.... He came back harder. Now having a young INEXPERIENCED Scottie Pippen whom had to take a minute to develop (he only averaged 7 pts at the time), and a rookies Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong (which became the nucleus of the first 3peat squad) to grow with him, and then they got Paxson from S.A. the obstacle this time was the Pistons, whom Jordan took "L's" from for those back to back Badboy titles..... He didn't switch teams by this time Pippen, Armstrong, Grant, and Paxson had grew with him and then he overcame. Now what they did afterwards you could call them a "super team" I simply don't think so... That squad came from playing with someone for so long you grew together, not ready made squads.
Michael Jordan had 1 or less All-Star teammates for 6 finals. SUPERTEAM My ASS!!!
The fact he couldn't because there was no free agency is why he didn't take his jersey off. The revisionist MJ history grows every year. When he didn't win there was an acceptable reason for it; when he did it was solely because of his indomitable will and never because of a key player injury or weakening of a team because of the expansion draft. The ironic thing is MJ doesn't need the help. He balled out and won. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done against a fully intact Detroit Pistons not weakened by the expansion draft or against a Bird not hobbled by a bad back. Well never know but omitting the fact there were players/teams the Bulls couldn't beat is a bit unfair in the storytelling.
My comments exactly
@@csd8204 I have to disagree because players could have asked to be traded but Michael stuck with his team and grew a championship team
@@csd8204 I have to disagree because players could have asked to be traded but Michael stuck with his team and grew a championship team
Lebron's got a long list of excuses. So do most losers.
Top 5 nba player of all time , a bunch of mvps (I think 4 but not sure) and 3 time champion is a loser??? What does that make you?
Does LeBron have excuses or do his fans? Big difference.
What was Jordans excuse for being a loser in his final NCAA career game and the first seven years in the NBA? Jordan was good but he doesn't belong to be mentioned with the truly greats!
@@csd8204 no lebron made a lot of excuses.
@@terrydavis2936 his answer was to stick with his team and work with what he got. He never cried about any of it. He pushed hard to be the greatest. Whats lebrons excuse? Oh wait, he left the cavaliers since he couldnt win with them then came back and said he accomplished something. Bullshit.
It's crazy to me how easily people forget how great MJ was. I have to admit that at this point in my life, I've seen more of LeBron's games than that of Michael's. Every single time I watch LeBron, I always say, this guy is the best in the world. But every time I watch MJ play I feel like I am watching anime. The way he moves, the way he scores, his intensity, the ambiance of the entire arena when he executes a magnificent play is so other-wordly that it doesn't seem real to me.
The eye test alone says a lot about the two players. You have the best in the world in LeBron James and then you have MJ who is this mythical, other-worldly entity who doesn't feel real. No one can be that good, right? LeBron's "block" on Iguodala made me jump up in excitement! But the way MJ executed his free throw line dunk in the dunk contest LITERALLY made me shed a tear. I know those are two completely different highlights, but I can think of so many other MJ highlights that resonate with me, I am not sure why I chose the dunk contest one. Maybe it resonated with me the most? You gotta admit, Wilkins vs Jordan sounds like two heavy weight boxers going at it at the highest level.
LeBron is an all time pantheon player. But MJ was an artist and the basketball court was his canvas.
Say it again for the people in the back. Very well said
Klutch Sports has a bunch of agents spread on various Sports outlets.They keep his name an they create narratives. Winning has become less important.
Well said, brother
JORDAN WAS RUTHLESS ON THE DAM COURT, JORDANS SKILL SET WAS ABOVE LEBRONS, LEBRON IS GREAT BUT IVE WATCHED THEM BOTH AND I'LL TAKE MJ ALL DAY EVERYDAY
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bobby moore lebron travells all the time
This soft ass league is a joke.
yeah...that's right buddy...
@@TravelHall74 I agree with you a 100% after watching the Jordan era this era is real soft 3 point shooting no true style.
MJ is and will always be the GOAT like it or not!!!! Played in the toughest era against toughest opponents, not like Lebron with the weakest east!
Lebron is ridiculous. MJ scored 14 of the 18 points in the 4th quarter of that Game 6 with Phoenix and he was the guy who had the ball in the beginning of that last possession. Dude just lies.
That was wicked wat he said this generation of the game is a joke
Lebron is a bold face lie im a bulls fan in 93 and Jordan brought ball up court smh lebron is a hater for that lie
16 of 19 points
MJ was a 6'6 guard who played in a big man era, and dominated it. LBJ is a 6'9 big guy who is playing in a small ball era...... And get dominated.
LOL lebron... MJ had nothing to do with the last play in '93? What about all the points in the 4th quarter up to the point? Who scored those? That's right... MJ!
Racerdude777 he brought the ball up the court with kJ pressing him full court on the last play
@@TheSands83 ua-cam.com/video/BqKyStJLeXM/v-deo.html
Jordan in-bounded the ball to Armstrong, Armstrong passed the back to Jordan nearing half court then passed to Pippen who passed to Grant then hit Paxson for the wide Open game winner. Lebron forgot to mention the play before that Jordan played lock down defense collected the rebound and took the ball full-court for the score under 5 seconds to give the Bulls an opportunity to even win this game as time was running out. Not to mention Jordan scoring 16 straight points in the 4th quarter ( carrying the offense ). Lebron is always trying to create/control the narrative.
He sounds salty AF
@@pdr305 its because lebron puts himself on a high pedastool. The dude gave himself his own nickname "king" my fn ass.
Did you even watch the entire clip? It was about how everyone contributes to a win. Nobody does it alone.
Michael Jordan period, no argument !!!
FACTS
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Jko Taylor Hahaha.
@ 34:54 Jordan is baseline he beat two Knick's and still has to beat another Knick @ the rim. Lebron drive to an open rim in today's game. MJ played his whole career beating double team's and playing against physical team's. No argument. The ship sailed in 2011 and has been sailing since and Lebron can never board that ship. Michael Jordan will Always Be The Greatest of All Time.
That was an unbelievable play
I love LeBron James top five all times for me.... but Jordan is and always will be the undisputed goat... the man was ruthless on the court took no prisoners 💯
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Dwayne Cameron bro what's wrong with you homie... don't ever disrespect
@Seldom Scenn you just ruined all your credibility, all of those players THEMSELVES don't agree with those spots. LeBron top 30? Yeah sure, maybe in his early cavs days but now? Hes top 3 at the LEAST.
@Seldom Scenn Name me 20 players better than LeBron, I will wait.
@Seldom Scenn Also, 4 MVPs, 4 Championships, 4 FMVP, a scoring title, 15 All NBA teams, 6 all-defensive teams, all-time leader in playoff points, minutes, steals, 10 finals appearances, 3rd all-time scoring, and he is gonna finish all-time leading scorer, along with being top 5 in assists atleast. He is the only player to have 30K+ points and over 10K rebounds and assists, and he is a top 3 clutch player ever. He is second in PER, 3rd in winshares, second in finals points, two olympic gold medals, 4th in PPG, most 30 Point games in the playoffs, all time playoff steals leader, only player to lead both teams in major statistical categories in a finals, averaged a triple double in the finals, and bought cleveland his first championship. I mean he gave like 40 players their first ring, give this man his respect. Top 30? Read this guys description, even he says LeBron is top 10, which in itself is a massive understatement. Also, where is Jordan in your top 5? Funny you mention Dr J at 2, he thinks LeBron is the GOAT. Larry also thinks Jordan is the GOAT, same with Magic, and Wilt doesn't think he is the GOAT either.
Michael Jordan is so awesome, whenever I see the number "23", he is the first thing that comes to mind.
"i never lost in the finals, i never knew what it felt like" -MJ. enough said
Lebum lost to a mid 30's celtics team and ran out of town to form a super team and you lose to JJ Berea and the Jet and got blown out and swept by an Ancient Spurs team in NBA record fashion before returning to Cleveland to play with two other All Stars on his team and is the only one to get swept twice in the Finals. Lebum has paid people off like Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wrong to re shape the narrative to make those who didn't see MJ play think other than the reality of MJ being the best
Thank u sir 👍 facts 💯
Tom Lambropoulos ancient 😂😂😂😂😂
I get what you're saying, but don't ever disrespect the 2014 spurs like that ever again
Yeah and I felt he could’ve eventually pushed through that Boston team but he had to jump ship. Jordan got his ass kicked by the Pistons multiple times and still rode through it until he got through that hump.
Other than Paxton’s 3 Jordan scored every Bull point in that 4th quarter.
there were other people that won the game with the last shot. steve kerr comes to mind in 97 finals game 6.
axl the slacker both plays the double teamed Jordan. On the Paxson shot they double teamed him in the backcourt. On the Kerr shot in the huddle Jordan told Kerr he was going to pass it to him if Stockton double teamed and that's exactly what happened.
Richard Bass thank you! Take that Shannon Sharp. The nerve of him to act like Paxon was the man in that game 6 vs. Suns. And the Kerr shot, MJ set that up. This stuff is on video. "Watch Stockton coming to double. Be ready." MJ basically changed Kerr's life. And if you watch that play MJ coulda still shot the ball with a decent look instead of passing to Kerr. Now that's making your teammates better. If LBJ makes his teammates better like he's praised for, how does one explain the JR Smith blunder?
Eric Hall Jordan was not double teamed in 93. At all. It was just simply a perfect play executed by the Bulls. It was on everyone's mind that Jordan was gonna take it, but he was never tag teamed
@@suppaman12uhhhh Stockton clearly came to double on the shot we're all talking about. Lol. ua-cam.com/video/YQpIKg7Yk-A/v-deo.html
After game 4 loss against the Warriors this year, I don't think anyone is talking about Lebron as GOAT anymore.
No he a dead duck.
JASON STARKS sweeps do not count
Michael Jordan was always in control of his game he played every game like it was championship . everyone who played with Michael Jordan was on top of their game and he gave credit to all these guys who made big game winning shots.. MJ and the Chicago bulls had a flow that is not seen today.. he will always be the greatest
Tell em again. Jordan is a Mount Olympus Athlete!
When Lebron speaks about how Jordan wasn't even involved in the final possession where the 3 pointer was scored is exactly what Kobe was trying to relay what Phil Jackson told him. Empowering your teammates isn't just about YOU passing them the ball, it is about instilling confidence as A TEAM so everyone can step up when needed. Lebron doesn't understand this because if he did he wouldn't demand the Lebron system and would actually train with his team and implement a style that would be more effective instead of moaning about how your team mates are trash.
Facts
He was involved.... he inbounded the ball. And got the ball right back n built up a head of steam n hit pippen with a pass
Crazy part is, Jordans percentage at the 3 point, is only 1 percent lower than Lebron, but Jordan's shot average from beyond 3ft is a tad bit over 50% chance, while Lebron is at 20% chance to make a shot at anything beyond 3ft.
He's beaten The Charlottes with Alonzo, Larry Johnson, and Kendall Gill, Dell Curry.
He's beaten The Indianas with the Davis brothers and Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson.
He's beaten the Knicks with Ewing, Oakley, Starks, Mason, Xavier McDaniel, Gerald Wilkens and Riley as coach.
He's beaten the Orlando's with Shaq, Penny, Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson
He's beaten the Detroits with Isiah, Dumars, The Microwave, Mahorn, Rodman, Lambier, and Chuck Daley as coach.
He's beaten Atlanta when they had Wilkens and that bunch.
He's beaten the Clevelands with Mark Price, Craig Elo, Ron Harper (When he was good), Larry Nance, Brad D in the middle and Lenny Wilkens as coach.
Just The East.
He's beaten The Lakers with Magic, Worthy, Divac, Byron, etc...
He's beaten The Sun with Barkley, KJ, Dan M, etc...
The trailblazers with Clyde, Buck W, Jerome K, Terry Porter, etc...
The Super Sonics with Payton, Kemp, Detlef S., etc.. with George Karl as coach.
And Utah twice! Before he left Hakeem was in Houston, and David Robinson neighborhood was in S.A. the parity in the NBA was spread pretty even, opposed to how it is today. Jordan could have tapped out like LBJ did in Dallas after they lost that first game to the Lakers... this is where him and LBJ is different....They came back and won 4 str8 on L.A.'s ass....(that's where the Assassin comes from) LBJ and MJ (the GOAT) are in two separate (by a lot) planets....MJ is just a different kind of animal.
Marlo Stanfield Thanks for setting the record straight.
Marlo Stanfield broke the science. Each team had a big 3 Jordan just beat them all
Marlo Stanfield I Agree. That's a lot great players on great teams. Let some people tell it Jordan played against weak talent. Which is so untrue, he played against a lot of great and tough players of the time.
He had to leave the game due gambling. Then when he came back he played with his shorts on backwards and dropped like 40 or so
Lebron would cry like a baby if he had to go trough those days
6 NBA Finals, 6 NBA Championships, 6 NBA Finals MVPs without allowing a game 7 and that in a era when the NBA was played by men not 80% female males crying, whining and flopping every other minute. MJ is the greatest of all time and Kobe is 2nd.
A T that's how dumb y'all shooter fans are kobe and mj just because they are shooters yall like them because shooting is ez but dunking not so dumb kobe ist close to top 10
Ima have to disagree with Kobe being second there. If we had to choose THE ONE, arguably Mike wouldn't be THE #1 no questions asked. But he is most certainly top 3. What I mean by that is, no one would be mad if that top 3 was put in literally any order, no matter who is 1,2, or 3. You can't say that with Lebron or Kobe. Kobe was dope but he hardly makes top 5.
I think with the kind of mind set IQ, skills and build jordan is balance and excellent in everyway possible, an all rounder player! A great leader aside from being a great scorer his also a great defender! Him and kobe has the same mind set mentality, will and hunger for the game! As they both hate loosing! They're fighter not a quiter (sorry lebron excuses doesn't make you a winner) Kobe is good i love him too but for me Jordan will still be and always will be the greatest player of all time!
Top 10
1.Michael Jordan
2.Kobe brayant
3.Magic Johnson
4.Steve Nash
5.Kareem Abdul Jabar
6.Wilt Chainberlin
7.Derek Rose
8.Kevin Durant
9.Lebron James
10.Shaquil O'Neal
A T facts
If the 🐐 doesn't retire after destroying the Suns....all those numbers increase....8 for 8
This is no longer even a dispute.
LeBron is like Moses of Egypt, he will take his people to the promise land but he will NOT ENTER.
MJ is at another level
Carlos Moscoso I like that
LMFAO
Carlos Moscoso that's a GREAT analysis, wow..........all dressed up but cant get in the club. Lol
Neither is Tom and Joe. Joe is the GOAT
And MJ is the one that sent the plagues in the NBA’s Egypt.
LeBron hasn’t surpassed Kobe’s legacy yet so let’s stop with the MJ talk
Adam- The Sports Guy thank you I thought I was the only who thought this
Adam- The Sports Guy I agree. Kobe gets no respect. I didn't like Kobe but I would take him over lebron
Kobe is not in the conversation
if they talking about rings in Kobe vs LBJ debate yeah kobe got 5 but lebron has 1 more FMVP, guess who got carried?
@Tulia, YES man!!! EXPOSE all their small, dirty lies. Buldozer simply CAN'T FLY!! And for all others - Good morning ladies and gentlemen, welcome on fly 23.
Michael Jordan played with a bunch of nobody's Scottie puppet Steve Kerr Toni kukoc bj armstrong bill Cartwright and everybody else with the exception of Dennis Rodman who was never a scoring forward he only averaged 6 points then . but Jordan helped make his teammates better and helped mold them dare I say into championship material . LeBron was to scared to try that
Derrick Williamson hahahaha MJ never did...b4 Rodman was traded to the BULLS he was a scoring forward in PISTON averaging double double as well as his time in SPURS... I remember RODMAN scoring 20+ pts and 10 rebounds per game during that time... coach PJ turn him into a monster defender/rebounder and rule player not MJ One thing more that BULLS team was almost 9 years in the making to be that tough and be a super team ..So don't dare compare LBJ's team who is probably more vulnerable but LBJ always made in to the play offs and finals then Wins a Ring. One thing is for sure... MJ is nothing w/o the BULLS!!!!!! That's it... Wanna know why?
MJ played 2 seasons with the WIZARDS... But he never made it at least in Play offs last record is
37-45 out of play offs considering having a prolific team mates like
Larry Hughes and Jerry Stockhouse who at they prime during that time..
Derrick Williamson I know Lebron Last 7 of 8 Years Should have Won Rings With His Picked All Star Teams and Lebron Never Would Committe To Cleveland for them To Build around Him Correctly and LeBron Could not Get people to Come to Cleveland n those First 7 Years .
Conrado Toledo HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
Ohhhhhh Conrado.......thank you for being here to amuse us.
Lebron made Mario Chalmers, norris cole, ronny tariff, Eddie curry, Shane battier, and a bunch of either nobodies or old ass was somebodies champions...
#riDQlous
Wrong, it was a veteran Larry Hughes who helped that Cleveland including Lebron.
He lost Kyrie because he wanted to take the ball out of his hands and run the show. You can't do that and expect a true point guard to still want to play alongside you.
Samuel Huggins He's still doing that. You can't tell me that those other players couldn't have done more if given the opportunity. Everything is centered around LeBron. I keep hearing people say that LeBron gets the other players involved. How? Unless they're helping him with his stat padding, they're no use to him.
LuvnAries23 you gotta let people do their jobs.
Well we've seen Kyrie on his own and he didn't play any damn different. Same wannabe Kobe type. Kyrie isn't a true point guard and NEVER has been.
Kyrie has never averaged more assist than lebron how is he a true point guard? Hes a short shooting guard with crazy handles too ball dominant
Xavier Vega Stop it!!! Irving averaged 6.1 assist per page, in his 3rd season. That was the season before Lebron came back to Cleveland and took the ball out of his hands!
Mr Jordan will always be the Greatest Basketball player of all time. He always done what was needed to win a game and at the same time put on a good show.
Great video😁😎
Jordan the goat
PERIOD
@Goldberg Brian
Michael Jordan's best
the moment he made the decision to play in miami heat is the exact moment he lost to michael jordan...
Yep
How can a player lose to a player they don't play against?
@@csd8204 He chasing that guy, that's the reason
That's some straight BS bro.
To me i don't even know how it even came to this .when i look at lebron style of play their is a lot of past players i would never rate him above let alone put any wear close to micheal jordan .
To lebron..stopped wearing #23, back to #6 coz you loosed 6 in finals. Mj is goat period.
Nah. That's Dr. J number
No, Lebron. MJ actually did bring the ball up when paxon hit the shot. Lol
julius henry . It's called a set play
it just shows you how bad LeBron wants to degrade and diminish Mike's legacy..Mike threm the inbound pass and got a return pas on that play before handing it over to Pippen...unless he's blind...
Julez Verne and? He still passed just like y'all crying if lebron passes and what's with the Allen 3 he shot it and it got to allen
Bill 11 Rings Russell The Paxon shot to win the series was a set play, which was executed perfectly. The Kerr shot was also executed as part of a plan formulated in the huddle during a timeout. Kerr even said in various interviews that Jordan told him that he'll be doubled by Stockton and to be ready to take the shot. The Ray Allen shot, on the other hand, was a stream of luck bailout for the Heat and Lebron's "legacy." That's the difference.
Julez Verne No that was all planed lmao and? Doesn't matter he hit it it's over and lebron took the last shot why everyone don't remember how much points ray had in game 6 and without lebron the wouldn't even be there
mj is the G.O.A.T. with love from greece . ty mike !!
They talk about game 6 of the 93 finals and Paxon hitting the 3 to win it but there’s a key piece to that story that the LeBron lovers always leave out. That 3 point shot by Paxon is the only basket scored by a Bulls player not named Michael Jordan in the entire 4th quarter. So don’t give me this Michael had help BS if it weren’t for Michael Jordan the Bulls do not win that game if not for Michael Jordan the Bulls have still never been to the finals. When the game is on the line in this type of situation LeBron doesn’t step up like MJ he quits on his team he disappears just like he did in this year’s finals starting in OT of game 1 and he never showed up after. LeBron should never be mentioned in the same conversation as Michael Jordan
Barry Jowers fucking agree with everything you said fam
Barry Jowers just like Allen hits the 3 how many points had Allen in that game 6?
Barry Jowers hahahaha w/o BULLS...... No MJ too...
MJ played in Wizards..he sucks!!!! 😂😂😂 37-45 records out in play offs 😂😂😂😂
Lol!!!!
Pot....meet kettle
Kinda like how MJ fans claim that Ray Allen saved Lebron against the Spurs when it was Lebron that brought the team back and also won the game in OT?
Funny how MJ fans don't like it when you use the same illogical arguments against MJ.
And Paxson is hardly the only Bull to hit big game winners for MJ. MJ fans forgot them all. It's not even the only time Paxson did it. Paxson won game 5 for the Bulls against the Lakers in 1991. Paxson was even named player of the game.
HarpoSpoke LeBron James is the one speaking claiming that it was Paxon that saved Jordan and the Bulls in the 4th quarter of that game. He’s trying to diminish Jordan’s legacy and what he did carrying his team to help solidify his own legacy. Sounds kind of hypocritical to me considering how many times he bailed out on his teams when things got tough.
Many people love and respect Lebron James for who he is and what he has done for the game of Basketball, but Most, I mean most people love and respect Michael Jordan because he always takes responsibilities for his game and for his team. And does not make any excuses at all. That alone makes him the GOAT. Not to mention what he has done for the game of basketball.
Shouldn’t even be a discussion, people who believe Lebron is the greatest..are delusional. MJ 23 is the greatest, end of discussion.
Michael "Air" Jordan G.O.A.T. until the end of time.
LeBron James game is basic compared to MJ.....
Dwayne springer .. no way mj style of play & game
Dwayne springer why? Michael Jordan is not t The greatest player in the world and Stephen a Smith shut the fuck up.👊🏽
Dwayne springer Lebron has rebound and pass and even has a higher shooting % . Better 3pnt % . Show me where you are correct ?
LeBron is a physical freak of nature...I do wonder how much of that his chemist is responsible.
jclbuxfan it's a lot players who can shoot better than Jordan and anybody can break records that doesn't mean there great
41:20 The NBA was once made up almost entirely of GROWN MEN, whose pro careers typically began at age 22, after 4 years of college basketball. Those 4 years are EXTREMELY CRITICAL to the development of any young man’s maturity, education, and character. MJ entered the pros after only 3 years of college, while guys like Magic and Isiah entered after only 2 years. At that time, such players were the EXCEPTION and NOT the RULE. Today’s NBA is almost entirely occupied by young men who have been allowed to SKIP this critical stage of development, which has led to a league full of FREAKISHLY TALL CHILDREN. No one is denying that LEBRON is a GREAT PLAYER. However, even if his numbers were even remotely close to those of Mr. Jordan (which they are NOT), the fact is that the league Lebron James has dominated over the past 15 years has been a league that is WOEFULLY INCOMPARABLE to the one that Michael Jordan dominated.
The 80's throughout the late 90's was stacked! I believe Lebron didn't face the level of comp that Jordan, Bird, Magic ect did I truly feel that way...how do you win 73 games and lose in the finals? it's like working for no wage
Wrong. Just because they aren't "grown men" doesn't mean shit for example Jesse Ownes ran 10.3 and was the fastest man in the world he ran against other "grown men" but high schoolers today run 10.3 young ppl are running sub 10 against Usain Bolt age doesn't matter it's about the skill set which that athlete has // skill wise players are better today LeBron plays against better athletes LeBron is better than Jordan and hes arguable Greater
John Caparulo FAXX.
Moses Messiah
get your ass out of here and put those tablets away, Moses.
I think what I hear you saying is that Jordan just may have benefited somewhat from his years under Dean Smith before entering the NBA. If you had the chance to play 2, 3, or 4 NCAA seasons for Wooden, Smith, Bobby Knight, Coach K., Dale Brown, John Calipari, Jim Boeheim, Jimmy V., isn't there a chance you'd become a better person and/or NBA pro having played for them?
MJ is not just the best basketball player of all time, but arguably the best sportsman of all time.
People not realizing there big men back in the day where way more skillful then these power forward/ centers now back then (Lb) wouldn't have made it....
Shawn Kemp Right!
So to all LeBron fans go see the greatest player Michael Jordan games.... Jordan was a killer when he smelled blood LeBron doesn't do that and he makes alot of excuses
There's nothing he(LeBron) can do to be considered better than Jordan... what if Jordan was tall as LeBron and LeBron was small as Jordan?!
But LeBron is taller, stronger, more skilled, a better 3 pt shooter with a better handle and more court vision. Its Darwinian, dude. More people play basketball today on planet earth than in MJ's day. Thus, you have Steph, Giannis, KD, Kyrie etc. doing things that old timers never dreamed of. Name a 7 footer from 1990 who handled the ball and shot like KD?
Phil Wilson the league is soft dude... plus Jordan played with hall of famers... and the league was tougher back then... I don't think LeBron could take that beating night in and night out he crys to much for a foul now.... oh and another thing Jordan is 6-0 in the finals never allowed a game 7 and has 6 finals MVPS... plus has better shoes than LeBron
George R MJ is overrated
Phil Wilson nice
Im so sick of this debate ... It took this dude like 15 years get a intermediate game... And and he needs to learn how to play without the ball in the offense
You just based his entire career on year 15... lmao, hes been off ball before this year w/ no reliable scorer or ball handler. when MJ was like that w/o Pippen no one hated. Yet LeBron "he needs to learn" even if he didn't, what did NOT learning to cost him in career? He has the most fucking accomplishments since MJ and Kareem. Stfu clown, all types of ignorant critcism
When people say "Lebron can't play off ball" what they really mean is "Lebron can't shoot off the catch" , because that is really the off-ball aspect Lebron is not good at. He is DEVASTATING cutting to the basket without the ball.
@@xaviervega468 he couldn't stop Jason Terry lol. Mavericks killed them but most of all Jason Terry lol
its so silly of lebron to try and live in MJ's shadow.. lebron should make his OWN LEGACY and NOT use MJ as the yardstick.. that to me is a real lost in any common sense. Lebron should learn to stfu and let his basketball do the talking like MJ did during his era. with all that said. MJ is still and has always been the real GOAT!!! Period
i dont know if jordan will ALWAYS be the goat..........all i can say is that the player who will dethrone him, still hasnt made his way to the nba.
sabin97 Recognition makes GOAT. Jordan globalised the sport and popularized it world wide. No one can ever get that high of recognition ever again.
I think the next goat will give MJ a much bigger greater respect than himself, a kind of goat everyone will look upon like MJ
, not a self proclaimed king who only loves to showoff and easily givesup who makes excuses w/o class! And had to build a superteam just to win!
sabin97 Over 3000pts in a season and lead league in steals, and most blocks ever for shooting guard. Follows that season with 35 pts gm and DPOY. Leads in steals again and more blocks than any guard ever. Jordan never played with a dominant center or another player that demanded a double team. Jordan basically beat super teams in first threepeat almost single-handedly. Second threepeat, Pippen was a bonafide super star, and Rodman was a hall of famer, although he didn't score much. Jordan basically dominated the NBA with a bunch of role players for 11 years. He had Rodman for 3 yrs. Rodman's dominant years were in Detroit. Pippen was great the second threepeat.
Real talk
Simply not possible. Jordan was just so good.
Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time 6-0 in the Finals and he 3 peated twice in Finals series wins, Lebitch Blames 3-6 in the Finals and he 3 peated twice in Finals series losses!
Lebitch blames still a great player, the Finals record is not what it all comes down to. you just disrepect his entire name b/c of his roster vs Golden State? What was MJs roster vs the shitty Utah Jazz, the fucking Suns? Stop being so ignorant with your life, disrepect somebody b/c of the Warriors roster. @Chrbitch Dragay
Shitty roster Jazz?
1997 Jazz
-MVP Karl Malone in the Finals along with a past prime but still great Stockton.
- This Jazz team beat Shaq's Lakers 4-1, and Shaq was held to 22 ppg on 49% after doing 26.2 ppg on 56% in the season. So much for him being too big and strong for the 90s defenses to handle
- Shaq has a combined 1-8 playoff record against Karl Malone's Jazz, even after he made the NBA Finals in 1995.
- This Jazz team, even past their prime, also locked down several superstars from the 2000s.
1998 Jazz
- In the 1999 playoffs, this Jazz team shut down Chris Webber. The same Webber that nearly led the Kings past the 2002 Lakers with an injured Peja Stojakovic. After having 20 ppg on 49% in the season, Webber was held to 15 ppg on 39% against the Jazz. Webber also struggled against the 2002 Jazz.
- The Jazz in 1998 beat the Spurs with a rookie Tim Duncan 4-1. Duncan averaged the same amount of points that he did in the regular season, but his FG% dropped from 55% to 49%.
- Sure, Duncan was a rookie, but he also won Finals MVP the very next year in 1999 as a sophomore.
- The Jazz then swept Shaq's Lakers in the 1998 WCF.
- The Jazz went 62-20 in 1998 even with Stockton missing 18 games.
Suns roster
- 93 Suns with MVP Charles Barkley.
- They also had Kevin Johnson. In 1990 against Magic's Lakers, who had gone 11-0 before losing in the Finals the year before, Kevin Johnson upset Magic as he led his 5 seed Suns past the number 1 seed Lakers in the second round. And that was without Charles Barkley.
- Kevin Johnson's 6 best seasons outperform Chris Paul's 6 best seasons from a scoring and assisting perspective, and Johnson did it without the inflation benefit.
- Kevin Johnson was only a 3x all-star, but Chris Paul was as high as 2nd in MVP Voting - proof that the standards of high quality are far lower in the 2000s.
- He also outperformed Derrick Rose's MVP seasons
-Kevin Johnson, along with Magic Johnson, is the only player to average 20+ ppg and 10+ apg and 50% FG in 2 seasons. He fell barely short of a record 3rd season in 1989/90 when he shot 49.9%. Along with Oscar and Isiah, he is the only player to average 20+ ppg and 10+ apg for 3 straight years, and fell barely short of tying them with a record 4th straight year when he averaged 19.7 ppg. It says a lot that Jordan beat Magic, Isiah, and KJ, shutting down both Isiah and KJ while also taking care of Magic in the OT of Game 3 in the 1991 Finals.
-The Suns went 62-20 even with Kevin Johnson missing 32 games. A testament to their huge depth and Barkley's greatness.
-Jordan had a harder time scoring against the
93 Knicks than in any of his four playoff
series against the Pistons.
LeBron never and ever face those kind of teams
Chris Drake 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lebron was wrong, Jordan received the ball in bound from bj. Mike dribbled up the court passed it Scottie who drove to the basket passed to Horace who found Paxton
People tryna say lebron the goat how you the goat when you got swept in the finals
Dylan Cox twice
Dylan Cox how u the goat if u get swept in the first round? Lebron got swept by the spurs tim Manu parker and pop and got swept by the greatest team of all time gsw with Durant curry klay and green and what did lebron have? Nothing NOTHING his entire career u know that James is the only player that scored 50+ points in the finals and lost the game? It happened 6 times and he's the only one that lost that's how trash his team is I would not play the next 3 games just to show everybody how trash this team is they would get blowout 150-50
Bill 11 Rings Russell.. MJ went up against SUPERTEAMS in the first round with NO BODY else on his team. How he not getting swept? It's not like he wasn't balling averaging over 30ppg. It's not like Lebron was by himself and went up against HOUSTON or GS in the FIRST round. Swap MJ with Lebron and he's getting swept in the first round, and MJ is going to at least win 2 games playing with Kevin Love. Stop saying Lebron's team is trash... Lebron's system is Trash there's a difference.
Bill 11 Rings Russell lmao its more embarrassing to lose in the finals with 4-0 lose in your own home court
Bill 11 Rings Russell lebron in his rookie year doesn’t even make the playoff lol that worst than got swept at first round I thought.
If LeBron James was playing in the Michael Jordan era, he wouldn't have won one ring. So keep chasing rings LeBron. you will never get there, Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
These kids talking about LeWeak James is the goat are buying Air Jordans at a record pace 30 years later and have never seen him play other than on UA-cam. I gaurantee you people will not buy LeWeak sneakers 10 years from now. MJ still have the best selling sneakers today and the first model was released in 1984. MJ is the blueprint of the brand. It's not even just about numbers. He bought style and charisma to the game. He was the first to wear the baggie shorts and the low socks. He was the first to do post game interviews suited and booted making 10x more money off the court than on the court. And all the players today think they are a brand. Don't nobody want to buy your shit if you are not a winner. You have to have a game before you think you have a brand.
MJ was the original. It's a new Era now, new Sherrif. if LeBron James is weak why are opposing coaches in the Finals, former MJ teammates not saying hes weak while dropping like 60 pts vs a superteam? Talking shit on LeBron like MJ has no skeletons in his closet, swept in the 1st round so many times, LBJ with no star got swept vs 4. ofc
1. Era
2. Real big men center
3. Mike resume is better
4. The eastern conference was way better
5. Mike style of game look better
6. Mike impact waa better
7. If Mike had Wayne bosh erving love Allen, Mike would not lose shit he didn't lose with pippen & he made pippen
8. Mike is 6'6 in a era it was ruff in the whole .
9. All his final it was a story book ending 91 vs magic the MOVIE 92. Again derxler the best sg vs sg the srug shooting 3pts . 93 vs chuck avg 40 pts 96 vs Payton & Kemp 72 -10 with a ring . 2 game winner again the jazz
10. Mike dunk on real big center that 6 11 & better that score & block Jordan had go again .. soooo please stop mj vs lbj
Terrence PERKINS if he made Pippen what did MJ win without Pippen on his team? I'll wait...
Terrence PERKINS Jordan shouldn't have won MVP in 96, but the league wasn't gonna let Rodman get that from MJ
bink2187 .. nicca u on drugs get off my line
blink2187...Jordan did make Pippen....they won enough to make it to the playoffs with cokeheads on his team.....Lebron lost with 2 other all stars on his team to a 1 all star team.
hud1231 what 2 all stars did LeBron lose with to 1 all star? & Jordan made the playoffs without Pippen, that's almost as good as LeBron carrying 2 teams to the finals I guess lmao.
MJ silent while Lebron's more outspoken!? Actions always speak louder than words! MJ did his talking on the court & let others explain who was the best!
USCG MBCM retied... I think when people bring up Lebron being more outspoken I think they are talking about Lebron the man off court who has stood up for things like politically. For better to worse MJ was silent on those types of things.
Mj silent because he is the biggest winner in this. This is free advertisement for him. Air Jordans sales are soaring right now. Lebron still has to stir the pot but Mj is just sitting back reaping the billions.
I've always said it, this comparison is ridiculous and should've never even begun. MJ simply on another planet level wise. I can use #'s or no numbers and easily cement it.
LeBron forgot that the last quarter in Phoenix Jordan had the Bulls’ last 9(!) of their 12 points! Paxson’s game winning 3-pointer were the only points scored by another Bull that quarter!! Look it up!! Don’t take my word for it.....
No comparison. Why even mention LeBron in the same sentence as MJ?
MJ played in an era when it is extremely difficult to score when hand check was still allowed. If MJ would have played in this era he would score 60 per night attacking the rim and shooting all over the court.
jopol14 thats no fun to Jordan at all for grew to love basketball in the most toughest and challenging Golden Era, that no team in this era would dream to take part in, Jordan will dominate todays basketball like it's his own personal playground!
cheeze zlayer worst case scenario hed be shooting free throws like anything if he plays in todays game. imagine no more hand check. that is why lebron is a beast going to the rim uncontested.
jopol14 lolz, your right! Using his bulky body to charge right into the rim, with lazy defenders, any player can do that! Is no contest, mj is smart he will try to make contact diving into the paint, or shooting fadeaways into the perimeter drawing foul, before they know it, they be loosing players more than they've been losing pts 😂😂😂
The lebron lovers will most likely reject the hell out of this 😂😂😂!!! Great Video👌👌👌
Desadee Allen 😂😂😂😂😂
Whats with this urge to replace Jordan? Lol
Kenny smith said it all... with the double team topic in this clip...Pip never got the double team with mike on the floor
Funniest thing about how idiotic Lebron’s comments are is that Paxson’s last shot was the only time a player other than Jordan had scored in that fourth quarter. The beauty of that play is they all expected it to go to Jordan because of that.
Lebron as usual, is the master of the self-own 😂
2020 I still say MJ is GOAT
When you want to say someone is great at something you say they're the Michael Jordan of insert field. Michael Jordan is iconic, he is the standard, he is the Greatest of All Time in Basketball. Jordan is in the company of people so famous they are recognized by one name - Pele in football, Ali in Boxing come to mind.
LeBron learned a life lesson, you don't pull on SUPERMAN'S CAPE. MJ played both side's of the ball @ elite level's and the mental game he mastered it.
Mj was greatest to ever play to this day. To dethrone him would truly take a herculin effort. It truly would take some one not human to take that goat spot away.
There is no comparison between the GOAT and the others.
MJ is on a different universe to others
Jordan averaged 37.1 PPG on 48% shooting on 27 shots per game, very next year averaged 35 PPG on 53% shooting, very next year averaged 32-8-8 on 53% shooting. Unguardable.
josh Burke Nobody has ever scored over 32pts on 53% shooting, and had 8 rebounds and 8 assists, and most blocks for a shooting guard, and nearly 200 steals.
Michael changed the game
LeBron changed teams
Michael>LeBron
Bulls 95-96 would have beat Warriors 15-16..... 2017Warriors 🤔🤔 I'mma say Bulls get the W too
TheGr8Pre10der I agree. There were a better defensive team than the warriors
pippen to aim, jordan to shoot for offense and rodman for the reload that shot.
I am old enough to have seen the end of Jabbar's career, the end of prime to end of Julius Erving's career, all of Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Shaq, Kobe, Iverson, Duncan, Malone...both Karl and Moses, Akeem the dream, the Admiral, Clyde the glide, and anybody else from the late 70's up to now and I have watched enough film and listened to enough stories to know of the greatness of Wilt, Hawkins, JoJo White, Reed, Baylor, Robertson, Mikan, Russell, Pistol Pete, The Logo, Pee-Wee Kirkland, Len Bias, Earl Manigold, and essentially anybody worth discussing in a good basketball conversation. The conversation begins and ends with four players.
*Wilt was the most dominant force ever, but he didn't have a game that made his teammate better like Russell...so less rings. Russell and Wilt both played with less talent around the league overall due to issues of race and business bottom lines that forced owners to play inferior talent due to increasing worries about demographic shifts and how that messes with marketability.
*Jabbar was the greatest scoring big-man and his numbers bear that out, but he frequently came up short in clutch moments which may not be able to be blamed all on him...since he has to get the ball from a point guard back in those days....and sometimes they didn't give it to you based on what they saw.
*Lebron is a monster...plain and simple. He should be counted as one of the best when he had the pressure of following Jordan's era! He is dominant at times and has an exceptionally high basketball I.Q. Though he can be a liabilty at the end of games due to his lack of clutch shooting and his less than stellar free throw shooting which tells you what you need to know about his shooting touch...which I bring up when discussing Magic...cause he often gets a bad rap as a not so good shooter...when magic could fill it up when he decided he needed to. Lebron is truly amazing when he decides he wants to play like the best player on the planet....that just doesn't seem to be all the time. In some games....he should be selfish because he is the best scoring option and yet he defers. Being the man is more than having the most talent...it's also having everybody in the building knowing who is getting the ball and saying..."give me the rock" and then scoring that bucket!
And that brings us to *Michael. Because he played a physical above the rim style of basketball it is often forgotten that he was a clutch shooter when open shots presented themselves or when he needed to create them because defenses would pack the lane to shut down his drives. He wanted the ball in big moments and never shied away from big moments. He was the most creative player around the basket with moves and getting the ball up on the glass with a chance to go in...even when he couldn't see the rim. Straight line speed and vertical leap were amazing and he could take a beating from real centers...which the game has few of today. Jordan was also a bit of a physical specimen after transforming his body and adding muscle to combat the "Jordan Rules"...which were essentially opposing teams deciding to foul him and hit him often to wear him down during games. His point averages say enough about his scoring ability and his 6 rings in 6 finals appearances say enough about his championship pedigree! He did all of this while also being considered the best defender of positions 1-3 of his era. He had a handle that could rival many PG's of his era and if rules had been as lax...I am sure we would see many more crossovers from him rather than him dribbling around guys off spins and going through his legs to get defenders off balance. By the eye test to those having watched both play...it's not really close, because MJ was doing incredible things on the basketball court and it was clear he had no equal.
I suggest those people watch LeBron more closely, cause he is incredible and it's closer than any of us MJ fans would like to admit, but MJ in his prime would beat LeBron 1-on-1 due to his shooting. Yeah...LeBron would back him down, but LeBron isn't Akeem or Duncan with his back to the basket and he doesn't have a fade away the likes of Bernard King or Karl Malone. MJ would use his speed and shooting once LeBron misses and has to deal with MJ's mouth...which is a no brainer who wins the psychological match-up!
You made allot of good points. I haven't seen as much as you have. Michael Jordan and LeBron James I definitely seen them play. One hundred percent positive that it ain't close. Theirs things that Michael Jordan has done and no player has done on the court to this day. We all pick guys we like. But this is about honesty and integrity. Michael Jordan has no equals on the court. Believe me I looked. It'll be a long time before it might happen again. As of now and beyond, Michael Jordan is the greatest of all times until a real successor takes and elevates his game beyond Michael Jordan game to become the goat. We definitely have a long wait on our hands.
LeBron hating you will never be Jordan
I swear if lebron james ever ever dream about beating michael jordan's legacy then he better wake up and apologize and know that his dream was really a nightmare on air jordan street.
Hear after “The Last Dance” Jordan 23 G.O.A.T
Coby is better than LeBron point blank
DeMo 696 yes Kobe lol
I agree with that
I've watched NBA from 1994. Jordan is waaaaay better. No comparising here, nothing to see, move along sir !
Another amazing stat is that the Bulls never lost more than 2 consecutive games from 1990 until Jordan retired. Crazy.
Michael Jordan is the greatest player in basketball history first and last.
Michael Jordan best ever period
The Pistons and Knicks would have LAUGHED in Lebron's face.
bigpoppa 1967 the fact the knicks pushed the bulls to game 7 with the way they played against Jordan is the simple reason why Jordan is the greatest.
“If LeBron beats these Warriors, he will be the GOAT”. A week later after Cavs get swept: “If LeBron joins the Lakers and wins a title, he will be the GOAT”!! This shit will never end 🤔🤔🤔🤔
lebron should've should never say he's chasing mj legacy he will forever be a failure
MJ was and is a global phenomenon. He went to Europe with a Dream Team of NBA Hall of Fame basketball players and all eyes were on him. People waited hours just to see him. If Lebron did the same thing right now with a group of NBA all-stars, people would wait to see KD or Steph. He’s not even the best player in the NBA anymore. There isn’t even a debate to begin with. MJ is the greatest basketball player to ever play, period.
And I guarantee MJ was yelling and waving his arms in the air screaming pass it , hit me, im over here! If it was up to him he would've had it! And if Paxson missed he would've said they should've gave me the ball. Oh, and that was his best finals by far vs Phoenix, 41 ppg and like 8 rpg an 6 apg
Jill Conner his finals vs. the lakers is right there tho
If Jordan would only comment it would end this. Lbj got sensitive over Barkley. But cant have confrontation within Nike brand
LeBron was SWEPT. Period.
So was MJ, in the 1st round.
I would rather swept in 1st round at early years of my career than getting swept in Finals at my prime or matured enough to win championships.
Totoy Kupalin MJ averaged 43 ppg and GOT SWEPT thats prime, he had a shit team vs 4 HoF.
I would rather have fans understand who MJ faced 'early' vs what he faced in his prime. If MJ was in his prime he still would've got fucking swept dickhead (especially by Golden State). I also would rather have fans who understand when MY team isn't comparable to a Superteam and it's a team game. Name the team with more talent than the Bulls in the 90s? Exactly. LBJ average 35 ppg vs 4 All Stars = still shouldnt get swept. could've averaged 40 and got swept, look at his team, 1 great player isn't beating GS
So you basically saying that MJ got a better teammates than LeBron? Lmao
Lebron joining the Heat with DWADE who already won a championships and had averaged 30ppg, and CBOSH who had averaged 24ppg. Both were already in their PRIMES and ALLSTARS. Again.. Scottie wasn't an Allstar when he joined the Bulls. Lebron Left HEAT to join Cavs who already had Kyrie 25ppg, and they also acquired KLOVE who had a 26ppg, 10+ rpg season.
Lebron has never won without TWO additional Allstars. LEBRON has played on 7 SUPERTEAMS. MJ did it with just one legit Allstar (Scottie) three times and then 3 more times (w/Rodman) MJ THREEPEATED Twice. Lebron got swept in Finals Twice whenever he had less than TWO other allstars with him. Think about that..
LeBron already had Wade who is already a top 5 SG ad CBOSH who had averaged 24ppg but still got beaten by an old Mavericks who just got one legit veteran Nowitzki
Jordan played in the East during an era that East teams dominated the NBA!!! It battled tough teams like the 2-time champion Detroit, 16-time champion Celtics and strong contenders like New York, Atlanta & Mismi. Lebron played mostly in the East but in an era where West teams dominate the NBA.
@ 1:55, Lebron talks about John Paxson making the game winning shot of the 93 finals, Bulls vs Suns. This is true! What Lebron fails to mention is that John's shot was the THE ONLY SHOT MADE BY A BULL OTHER THAN MICHAEL JORDAN, in the fourth quarter!!!! And, let's give Horace Grant some credit for blocking Kevin Johnson's last shot attempt.
No doubt. MJ the greatest ever stepped on the cort. Thanks for great video.👍👏👏👏
Thank you so much👍💯%
He just doesn’t GLOW like MJ.
this is the Greatest video of all time
NBW DOUGHBOY Stephen a Smith shut the fuck up ........👊🏽
NBW DOUGHBOY this is the most Overrated Video of all time!!!!!
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this video was a waste of time. it's too long and isn't going to change anybody's mind. you think people who grew up watching wilt chamberlain or Kareem and think they're the greatest are going to change their mind and say Jordan is now the greatest?
Michael Jordan's return to the Bulls in March of '95 lifted the national mood.
What Lebron neglects to mention is in that game in Pheonix, Jordan scored all of the Bulls points in the 4th quarter before Paxson hit that three.
Lebron is the Buffalo Bills of the NBA. There isn't anyone with more losses in The Finals than Lebron. Nuff said!
The bills lost 4x and Lebron 6x
The Celtics team that almost beat the Cavs this year would have been SWEPT by JORDAN and the BULLS!!
Gundilero101 we don't even need to go that far. Indiana should have won that series in the first round and they only had one all star in Oladipo. LBJ ain't no GOAT. also, goats don't flop like that.
Just subbed, Jordan is the goat
Mj is the goat period!!! This video was excellent!!! Was that mobb deep in the background music in the Mj highlights, the song with the Asian vibe? If so, you should make a video of Mj's highlights and put that song as background!!! With that song, it felt like some Bruce Lee enter the dragon type vibe lol!!! Mj straight thee Kung-fu grandmaster artist with them highlights and song!!!! Straight fire with that song!
You know the name of that song? Anyone?
If they have to dig you out of the past to compare you with the modern day player that means you are the greatest