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  • There are a number of moral reasons to publicly reveal the existence of the Stargate Program, but the practical considerations are just as important.
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  • @westrim
    @westrim Рік тому +592

    In the universe that spawned Stargate, one of the co-creators of the Stargate tv series was pitching a pilot a couple years ago for a sequel series that would start with the revealing of the Stargate program. Unfortunately, Brad Wrights script has likely been trashed for a reboot after Amazon bought MGM. "We bought a franchise, now chuck it in the bin and start fresh!" doesn't make sense to me, but that's why I'm not a media executive I guess.

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 Рік тому +63

      Basically they want the name but don’t want all the baggage of the old series. They want to make their own “better” version rather than continuing someone else’s work.
      Plus there are legal/ownership issues they may want to ignore.

    • @samuelazzaro
      @samuelazzaro Рік тому +30

      Well, to be fair, while stargate has a dedicated fanbase......its been a while since Atlantis, SG1 and dear god the movie. So a reboot isn't too crazy.............I just hope they follow the original SG1 and get the star of a modern action series to play O'neil.

    • @TimeTravelinc
      @TimeTravelinc Рік тому +12

      By any chance, did the creator keep a copy of the pitch and reveal it to the internet?

    • @westrim
      @westrim Рік тому +5

      @@TimeTravelinc I doubt that will happen for a while, though he stays pretty engaged and talks fairly openly about plans. There just haven't been official announcements about this that would clear him to do so.

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Рік тому +4

      Never heard of a reboot happening, so I don't know what you're talking about here.
      The last I heard having an Amazon Stargate series was basically dead in the water. It wasn't going anywhere.

  • @mingchoi8369
    @mingchoi8369 Рік тому +356

    Personally, I think the world learning about the Stargate Program is simple inevitable. It’ll be interesting to see the inevitable Stargate sequel series deal with the consequences of that decision, from the emergence of Cerberus type anti-alien movements to mega corporations cashing in on alien technologies.

    • @Conejoazul2018
      @Conejoazul2018 Рік тому +25

      Yeah, we could see how different countries and its citizens deal with the other humans, maybe an cynical man from south america tries to help some civilizations that resembles its country of origin, some russians tries to expand orthodox christianity to other worlds, china has a new world to be more inhumane.

    • @ln7929
      @ln7929 Рік тому

      Stargate has already done both mega corporations cashing in on alien tech and the anti alien organization that ends up being controlled by the alien they were trying to stop just like in mass effect

    • @mingchoi8369
      @mingchoi8369 Рік тому +1

      @@ln7929 I've got to rewatch Stargate just to be sure…
      So, has Stargate done something like a Trump figure and/or alt right analogues? Both seem like potential story ideas for a sequel series.

    • @ln7929
      @ln7929 Рік тому +8

      @@mingchoi8369 stargate mainly stays neutral in politics bureaucrats tend to be the antagonist their are multiple episodes on it one with a planet nuking itself in a religious war

    • @ln7929
      @ln7929 Рік тому +7

      @@mingchoi8369 but personally i hope it doesnt include real world political partys but the show does include senator kinsey a man who is constantly trying to control the stargate program

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +684

    "As long as I am in command of the SGC, we will hold ourselves to the highest ethical standard." - George S. Hammond, leader of Stargate Command

    • @robkemp598
      @robkemp598 Рік тому +61

      "Challange accepted" the NID (probably)

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 Рік тому +28

      RIP Hammond

    • @absboodoo
      @absboodoo Рік тому +57

      Hammond of Texas

    • @gamer24d
      @gamer24d Рік тому +10

      You got to love Hammond

    • @Alex13501
      @Alex13501 Рік тому +14

      a true chad from Texas

  • @argentaegis
    @argentaegis Рік тому +150

    Revealing the SGC would have been an ideal end of SG1 and/or an ideal beginning for another series. I don't think you loose many of the current storytelling opportunities, and I think some additional ones are added. However, I'd keep the core of the program as an optimistic, honorable, best and brightest pushing the bounds of human knowledge and defending us all.

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 Рік тому +16

      Yes, ending the series on the secret being revealed would have been a good "bookend" and _"what do we do now?"_ moment without a cliched ending on a "will they survive" cliffhanger.
      A similar ending is Buffy, where they won, but _the game has completely changed_ with hundreds of new Slayers coming into their powers all over the World.
      The story will continue, and it'll be uncharted ground for the heroes, but it's going to be different - not a battle against evil but just dealing with the fallout and the hassles of new responsibilities.

    • @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290
      @rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 Рік тому +6

      Hell yeah! The last thing we need is a Stargate being turned into another Battlestar Galactica (I have nothing against BSG re-imagining; it's still one of my favorite TV shows, but it was pretty dark and depressing sometimes).

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Рік тому +9

      I'd go with ending SGU; they get back to Earth, and are treated as heroes- because the program has been revealed six months ago.
      Then they could have a miniseries dealing with that six months.

  • @hydra70
    @hydra70 Рік тому +100

    Honestly it was ridiculous that the program could stay secret after the Anubis invasion. All practical and ethical considerations aside, there's simply no way to hide something that big.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 Рік тому +13

      Let alone a Wraith hive ship turning up in orbit and promptly exploding after exchanging fire with a flying city.

    • @keisufederationmapping2748
      @keisufederationmapping2748 Рік тому +3

      @@tompearce5418 surely some debris fell over San Francisco?

    • @redhunter8731
      @redhunter8731 Рік тому +7

      They really should have gone public after that.
      No need to worry about mass panic because they already fought off a major invasion and hold an (at the time) unbeatable defense weapon.

    • @keisufederationmapping2748
      @keisufederationmapping2748 Рік тому +10

      @@redhunter8731 “hey guys we got invaded by aliens but don’t worry, we fought them off in like 30 minutes”

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 7 місяців тому +3

      @@redhunter8731 Atlantis sets down in or near the San Francisco bay area. Even with the weirdness factor there, some people are going to *notice*a sizeable artificial island floating there.

  • @nicktechnubyte1184
    @nicktechnubyte1184 Рік тому +230

    This series should have never been cancelled!

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael Рік тому +18

      On the contrary, it should have ended two seasons earlier.

    • @jimmyryan5880
      @jimmyryan5880 Рік тому +8

      MGM hated money

    • @vazeyo
      @vazeyo Рік тому +1

      @@Crazael Exactly.

    • @DocWolph
      @DocWolph Рік тому +25

      Stargate had largely run its course. Granted Stargate Universe should have been allowed to finish, but ratings were way down and it seemed no one had a good plan on [what] to do.
      But I think a new SEQUEL (not a reboot) series to SG1 would be a good idea at this point in time.

    • @captain61games49
      @captain61games49 Рік тому +8

      @@Crazael season 9 and 10 of SG1 was intended as a full on new series. Called stargate command witch would have been a full new story with multiple seasons

  • @thecocomonk2657
    @thecocomonk2657 Рік тому +32

    Honestly the Battle of Antartica seemed like the most likely moment for a global reveal of the Stargate program. How they kept that under wraps, I don’t know,

  • @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS
    @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS Рік тому +185

    Jack O'Neill: I would like to apologize in advance for anything that I do or say that could be considered offensive as I slowly go NUTS!
    Jack O'Neill: What do you want?
    Apophis: To live.
    Jack O'Neill: I can't help you there. That's between you and your god. Oh, wait a minute. You are your god. That's a problem.

    • @speed65752
      @speed65752 Рік тому +4

      🤣🤣
      I loved everything about O'Neill.

  • @TheSquareheadgamer
    @TheSquareheadgamer Рік тому +27

    Imagine living in the Star Gate world.
    Not only are aliens real, but we've already fought wars with them and WON. Including one in another galaxy.

    • @pro_master2486
      @pro_master2486 2 місяці тому +2

      I mean problem is. you would probably not even know about that

  • @1337Zip
    @1337Zip Рік тому +133

    In one of my fanfics, I envisioned disclosing the Stargate and the Goa'uld attack on day one would make some things easier in the long run. And the events around Alec Colson would've been the right time to do at least partial public disclosure.

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 Рік тому +16

      I also wrote a fanfic a decade ago that involves a united Earth post reveal that led to a short non nuclear world war because there is ZERO way the Russians, China and America would EVER unite regardless of alien threats.

    • @robkemp598
      @robkemp598 Рік тому +10

      @Excalibur01 That's depressing but probably somewhat accurate 😕

    • @1337Zip
      @1337Zip Рік тому +1

      @@Excalibur01 Interesting, what was it called?

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 Рік тому +2

      @@robkemp598 I'm a huge fan of the Macross series and from that, I got the idea that the major powers of earth will start a war over advanced alien tech, which will end with a huge "unification war" to unite the planet

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 Рік тому +7

      @@1337Zip I don't remember, it was a LONG time ago when I gave a damn about fanfic writing. The setting was POST unification war. The United Earth government is western centric because America had a hold on all the alien tech and essentially made it impossible for Russia and China to keep up, their governments collapsed because their people were more oppressed than their outward appearance led on, See ANYTHING about the People's Republic of China today.
      I basically turned the Stargate universe into Halo/Star Trek. There's now a much more larger human foothold throughout Sol system, like the moon, Mars, Venus is undergoing terraforming, thanks to Asgard tech mining on the moons of Jupiter, etc with the Earth fleet being large enough to challenge any other remaining power in the Milky Way
      Earth special forces wear Kull warrior inspired armor. Stargate expedition groups now use energy based weapons as standard.

  • @Gpz0
    @Gpz0 Рік тому +20

    The Stargate was revealed to the public, in a TV show called Wormhole X-treme!

  • @TheKrstff
    @TheKrstff Рік тому +115

    A Stargate series about Earth a decade after public disclosure would be so god damn interesting.
    Imagine countries requesting resource rights on alien worlds, or religious groups wanting their own planets.
    I’d imagine by this point the Earth gate would be used like it is in “2001.” Constantly used for public and commercial travel. Necessitating the existence of an off world SGC.

    • @anacolakovic4425
      @anacolakovic4425 Рік тому +1

      Completely agree

    • @Nightshadow12111
      @Nightshadow12111 Рік тому +16

      I think the stargates aren't really suited for a public transportation. One gate for the entire planet would create a looong line. You'll need to transport a lot of people, a lot of cargo. Imagine you want to visit your friend on Abydos, buy a ticket, and it says "Your number is 9001, waiting time >year." That would be not very practical, to say the least. So the gate would probably still be reserved for military/diplomatic use, mass produced civilian ships would be more common for public and commercial travel.

    • @juliam620
      @juliam620 Рік тому +7

      @@Nightshadow12111 Stargates are perfect for trains

    • @loupnuit1
      @loupnuit1 Рік тому +2

      @@juliam620 There's a book series on this idea already by Peter F Hamilton

    • @TheKrstff
      @TheKrstff Рік тому +13

      @@Nightshadow12111 Tightly controlled schedules could mitigate this problem.
      If things got too busy, designating certain planets as transit hubs would also help. Need to go to planet A? Well since it isn't a major destination for Earth with multiple dial outs a day, you instead go to major hub B that has a regularly scheduled dial out.
      Similar to air travel today.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +238

    *FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS I LAY DORMANT, WHO HAS DISTURBED MY-* Oh it's the Templin Institute uploading another glorious video. Nice.

    • @dylankillin318
      @dylankillin318 Рік тому +3

      I cannot believe a found another dbza fan on this video 😂😂😂
      Careful don’t say too much, you remember what 1000 clones did to vegeta

    • @ryanderenbecker8837
      @ryanderenbecker8837 11 місяців тому +3

      Oh look, it's the beta males

    • @dylankillin318
      @dylankillin318 11 місяців тому

      @@ryanderenbecker8837 lmao come fight me see how beta I am

    • @ryanderenbecker8837
      @ryanderenbecker8837 11 місяців тому

      @@dylankillin318 Bruh, how often does Vegeta call everyone (except Goku and Piccolo) a beta male?

    • @dylankillin318
      @dylankillin318 11 місяців тому

      @@ryanderenbecker8837 lmao literally speaking? Never. But by classification literally everyone even goku when he knows goku would fuck him up lol, no worries though I was just goofing

  • @MasslessWave
    @MasslessWave Рік тому +28

    Not to mention, opening up the existence of the program to a wider population would give us a greater pool of researchers. This would likely provide greater insight into the technologies discovered through the Stargate program.

  • @BrowncoatGofAZ
    @BrowncoatGofAZ Рік тому +42

    I’d love to see a sequel series with an international Stargate organization, with SG teams from each participant nation. Maybe have Jack and Sam’s daughter from the books leading the US SG team.

    • @DawnandTwlight625
      @DawnandTwlight625 Рік тому

      Sorry, what books are you talking about?

    • @BrowncoatGofAZ
      @BrowncoatGofAZ Рік тому +1

      @@DawnandTwlight625 as I recall, there was a book involving the Aschen survivors and a time-traveling O’Neil and his daughter. (I’m assuming Sam was the mother).

  • @questionmark05
    @questionmark05 Рік тому +55

    Even more Stargate content! Thank you, Templin Institute! It makes me so happy that there is still interest in it. I really hope it comes back one day.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 Рік тому +37

    If nothing else, it'll be better for the Air Force to reveal it to the world rather than have the truth come out by other forces, like an alien invasion 😟

    • @ee-ef8qr
      @ee-ef8qr Рік тому +5

      It allows them to share the burden with NATO, and gives a common goal between America and unfriendly countries like China.

    • @ee-ef8qr
      @ee-ef8qr Рік тому +3

      Also the population will panic less if the info is revealed. Rather deal with panic during peace than during crisis.

    • @ohauss
      @ohauss Рік тому +2

      An alien invasion would pose sundry liability questions - the US could even be held responsible for any damage done to nations that failed to prepare because they had no idea.

    • @rogueascendant6611
      @rogueascendant6611 Рік тому +1

      This is US
      A nation that have the most secrets of secrets than other modern-day nations in the world.
      They would never reveal anything that might be a threat to their national security nonsense.

  • @deanlawson6880
    @deanlawson6880 Рік тому +36

    I generally agree with this premise that the Stargate Program should be disclosed.
    in my opinion, it should be done at a regularly scheduled time and place, like at a General Assembly of the UN with all of the primary participating great power Nations disclosing and presenting, and the UN Sec. Gen. setting a positive tone for the great societal changes going forward.
    I think that would be the best forum and way to disclose it. Good Video and good topic to discuss!!

    • @ArchOfWinter
      @ArchOfWinter Рік тому +5

      After that, the various nations involved with the SGC will host a fleet week type tour of the ships they operates for their people and do a traveling world expo like event to showcase technologies. Also get another Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson cameo reacting to everything with McKay being smug about it.

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 Рік тому +23

    Just started rewatching SG1 the other day and was thinking about this, can't wait for new stargate content!

  • @charlestownsend9280
    @charlestownsend9280 Рік тому +62

    If I were to do a new series I'd have it set after the stargate program went public, also using it to explain why there is a huge time jump, with the fallout making stargate travel put on hold, with the new series being based around a new SG-1 team going out and rediscovering the galaxy.
    There would also be legacy characters and plots, with a mystery around Daniel Jackson, who illegally travelled through the stargate with vala after the suspension of the program to an unknown location and also the scientific team member would be a grown up clone of Jack, who took a different path and embraced his intelligence rather than hide it. Not to mention the added mystery of what happened to the Atlantis expedition who decided to go back to the pegasus galaxy (later shown to have built their own thriving society).
    I also think that by the time of season 8 it was getting a bit ridiculous having the program remain secret, when the world has a fleet of ships in orbit and hundreds of thousands of people across multiple countries working in the stargate program. From a storytelling perspective alone the stargate program needs to be public, otherwise it starts to break the believability of the universe.
    The reveal of the stargate program also creates a new threat on earth, with earth now split between two factions, a United earth government (who now run the stargate program and all starship programs) and the isolationist alliance (a group of independent nations who don't think that humans should get involved with other worlds).

    • @LAJ-47FC9
      @LAJ-47FC9 Рік тому +4

      Personally, for interstellar governance, I would go with a Systems Alliance-style thing. Earth can do whatever, but anything offworld must go through our doors (and gates) by definition, and therefore is under us.

    • @calebblaha7854
      @calebblaha7854 Рік тому +2

      Why limit yourself to two factions of people. Have natinalist groups who do want to flex their nations power, rather than a UEG.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Рік тому +2

      Well, the actor who played the teen clone of O'Neill would be a good age to be in the show about now.

    • @LAJ-47FC9
      @LAJ-47FC9 Рік тому

      @@calebblaha7854 oh, I like where your head is at. Moar politics :D

    • @anacolakovic4425
      @anacolakovic4425 Рік тому +3

      I think it would be more exciting worldbuilding wise to still have the worlds nations be seperate entitites instead of some generic world government fighting some alliance with an unoriginal name that somehow trancends conflicting national and ideological to say ''alien bad;'. and also ''world gov bad''

  • @yonirais4699
    @yonirais4699 Рік тому +28

    would love to see more stargate content on this channel!
    this franchise is one of my all time favorites and i feel like it has been really underrated and forgotten
    i would love to see you do videos about the goauld empire, the lucian alliance and the wraith

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula Рік тому +11

    I been shouting at this since day one. Imagine instead a number of Earth ships that can be counted with one hands vs it's whole industrial power brought to bare building dozens of them a year like WW2.

  • @slowingwand2851
    @slowingwand2851 Рік тому +8

    This is probably the best way for the series to come back/continue. I imagine a new show that starts with some event that forces the government to reveal everything and proceeds to focus on humanity as a whole progressively becoming an interstellar species

  • @LAJ-47FC9
    @LAJ-47FC9 Рік тому +9

    I would have done it just after Season 7, myself. The SGC was riding a high. Anubis was dead (they thought), they were prepping to go to actual fucking *Atlantis,* and the Replicators weren't *quite* threatening our galaxy yet. There would be public outrage, which in my opinion, is completely justified ("I'm sorry, *how* many times did you say the Earth itself came under threat!? Under our noses!?"), but again, they were at a high point. They could point to Anubis' super fleet and say "yeah we can deal with this kinda shit".
    Plus, Anubis blew up, like, an entire USN carrier group. How do you hide *that*?

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +5

    "To Infinity and Beyond!" - some purple head handsome dude

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 Рік тому +12

    I love your reasoning for disclosure. I also think there could be some great philosophical discussion in having to compare these considerations with the fear some prominent members of the SGC would naturally have based on their experience in alternate realities where disclosure had already happened

  • @TheNighteater
    @TheNighteater Рік тому +10

    It's a shame Brad writes fourth series pilot is dead in the water with the Amazon acquisition of MGM that was the whole premise of his his fourth series pilot was the reveal of the Stargate program

  • @laabitres
    @laabitres Рік тому +11

    One of the most underrated works of sci-fi of all time, I wish this and Atlantis had never been cancelled.

  • @GremlinsAndGnomes
    @GremlinsAndGnomes Рік тому +3

    Damn. We toppled the Goa'uld, the Replicators, and the Ori but we couldn't hold Afghanistan.

  • @jimmyryan5880
    @jimmyryan5880 Рік тому +15

    A new show should start with an alien attack on a major city and everyone expecting it to get wiped out like independence day. Then a bunch of earth ships show up and wipe them out quickly. And then they're like; sorry, yeah, we're kind of bad asses, the Lucien allience and those motherships are kind of old hat.

    • @andrewspears8891
      @andrewspears8891 Рік тому +2

      Except, unless it was for a very specific goal, it wouldn't be attack a single coty, it would be an attack across the entire world.

    • @slash2bot
      @slash2bot Рік тому

      By this point Earth has Ancient Defence Platform that word out Anubis fleet. You don't really need a bunch of Earth ships to show up, drones will finish then before that happens

    • @anna-flora999
      @anna-flora999 8 місяців тому

      ​@@slash2botunless they managed to produce new drones, using earth ships make a lot of sense. Why waste a limit recourses if replaceable home build systems do the trick?

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 8 місяців тому

      Nah. We saw that with Man Of Steel and Batman vs Superman. Did not go well, at all, and that was precisely how that was introduced.
      In Stargate, it would be far worse, considering the gate itself could strip the planet of all life if it was miss used in a specific way, and someone whom was angry they were kept out of the loop would do it just to be vindictive. That is just one technology the show has developed over its time with the capability of killing everyone.
      We got hints of that line of thought from the senators in the show itself, and we also saw Baal manipulating those that shared that sentiment when he arrived on Earth.
      The hints from SGU showed Stargate Command was letting out information slowly. All the releases of information that we saw could easily have to be agreed by all involved first.
      I think that at some point Stargate Command goes from a US, Russia, China, UK and French secret, to a global Command through the UN, since all permanent Security Council members were all involved from the beginning.

    • @Josh-oj9mm
      @Josh-oj9mm 12 днів тому

      @@slash2bot The Wraith blow up the Ancient chair in the final episode of Atlantis. They don't have ancient defences anymore unless they steal a chair from the medieval Atlantis clone.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +15

    Will the Templin Institute make an investigation on the Principality of Zeon in the future?

    • @TemplinInstitute
      @TemplinInstitute  Рік тому +12

      I will say it's much more likely than us making one in the past.

    • @abdurrazzaqmumin1574
      @abdurrazzaqmumin1574 Рік тому +3

      @@TemplinInstitute Can we get a video on the New galactic empire or the free planets alliance?

    • @westrim
      @westrim Рік тому +4

      @@TemplinInstitute I wouldn't put anything past the Temporal Division.
      I know you didn't include it in the org chart a few months ago, but that's because it hasn't created itself yet.

    • @stephenjames.5456
      @stephenjames.5456 Рік тому +2

      I would love to see the Universal Century analyzed.

  • @josephfaber4974
    @josephfaber4974 Рік тому +5

    I've been hoping for years that in the off chance the SG ip gets picked up again in a new series, that the first episode would either start or end with the SG Program going public. Every one of your points is spot on, and I hadn't previously considered the parallels with Goa'uld society forming with it remaining secret. Excellent examination.

  • @psykology9299
    @psykology9299 Рік тому +5

    wtf im literally in the middle of an SG1 episode right now 😂👌

  • @Crazael
    @Crazael Рік тому +8

    If I were running the show, I would have ended it with the public reveal that the program exists.

  • @weaselwolf
    @weaselwolf Рік тому +7

    I always sort of assumed by the last few seasons that the Stargate program had to be 'out' in some form. Not sure how you could build multiple interstellar warships that must cost billions of dollars and tried thousands of people to make in secret. Not to mention hiding a massive spaceship fight over Antarctica

    • @yazanmowed
      @yazanmowed Рік тому +2

      By the time the Daedalus class ships were being built, it was somewhat of an open secret on the Stargate universe’s Earth that someone had a cache of extremely advanced technology that was slowly being disseminated into the general public. An evidence of this can be seen in the Atlantis episode where a scientist creates an actual working prototype machine that can dump excess heat in the Earth’s atmosphere into another dimension to help with global warming, and the people in the (very large) audience didn’t even bat an eye as if this was the new normal. Then we see that Cameron Mitchell’s friend had basically already figured it out from working as an advisor with companies that are already producing parts for the F-302s and the BC-304s. So basically a lot of people know that something’s up, just not exactly what. And the vast majority of them do not want to be the ones to start spilling the beans.
      So to me at least, it seams that the IOA had chosen a soft disclosure of sort. Slowly disseminating technology and information about the program to as many people as possible, so that when they have no time left and are forced to disclose the program for the whole world, the least number of people possible would be completely surprised.

    • @ArmedPotat0
      @ArmedPotat0 Рік тому +3

      Honestly the biggest mystery to me is how can they cover up Atlantis? Like seriously?))))

  • @robkemp598
    @robkemp598 Рік тому +13

    I could imagine there being initial protests and anger but eventually that would calm down and people would be eager to sign up to live on a new colony world or serve on a new BC306 (or whatever number they're on now)

  • @FC3D
    @FC3D Рік тому +9

    This one really hit me, I miss this show so much (still watch from time to time) it was a big part of my late teens and well into my 20's. A sequel would be great

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Рік тому +3

    Disclosure definitely should've happened after the Super Hive incident so we coukd get the full industrial might of Earth behind building a true multi-national fleet.

  • @ArchOfWinter
    @ArchOfWinter Рік тому +6

    If someone ever take up the mantel to continue with the current Stargate storyline/lore/universe, I hope they'll do a long term revelations storyline. Either make the first season or two take place before revelation about the politic behind the decisions or possible impending threats that necessitate the program to be revealed or make sure there are ample flash back sequence or even full episodes that takes place before revelations that ties into current storyline.

  • @Soguwe
    @Soguwe Рік тому +2

    That would be one hell of a press conference
    "Ladies and gentlemen, earth is a galactic superpower. We have been for a while. I will now take your questions"

  • @shadowrain1024
    @shadowrain1024 Рік тому +3

    With the amount of straight up space battles that have take place near Earth, it's kinda wild how no-one has noticed already honestly

  • @adamdubin1276
    @adamdubin1276 Рік тому +7

    I'm with ya, I would like to know if there is a ring of alien space alloy that allows people to instantaneously move from one planet to another sitting bellow my home here in Colorado Springs.

  • @jacobdarling1524
    @jacobdarling1524 Рік тому +7

    I think I’ve heard the creator of Stargate voice a similar opinion. Would be cool to explore the declassification of the Stargate program in a new tv series.

  • @Kurzula5150
    @Kurzula5150 Рік тому +4

    The public has a right to know why so many alien planets look like Canada.

  •  Рік тому +2

    And there's also the moral aspect. The classified technology brought back from the Gate could eliminate most of the suffering on Earth, but the way the IOA is trickle-feeding it to the public means that millions, maybe billions will suffer and die before the technology to help them becomes available.

  • @kodibrown-main-9072
    @kodibrown-main-9072 Рік тому +4

    I completely agree. Thanks for the video!

  • @michaelkotcher5491
    @michaelkotcher5491 Рік тому +6

    Either way, it would cause a panic, especially when and if people are not allowed to start going to far flung worlds as they please.

    • @darthnowlan
      @darthnowlan Рік тому +1

      America would find themselves in wars with other nations quickly over America endangering the world.

  • @freakboy220
    @freakboy220 Рік тому +4

    Honestly, I've seen this debate and about 90% of anti-disclosers keep quoting MIB as their reason for keeping it secret instead of anything original.

  • @rickywonder101
    @rickywonder101 Рік тому +16

    Please revive this show and continue the epic story and world!

  • @adamraddish
    @adamraddish Рік тому +9

    Love your vids they are very inspiring and epic.

  • @mho...
    @mho... Рік тому +3

    I would be all for a *"Stargate Revelations"* Series, centering around, making earth/Humanity a true spacefaring civilisation & not just some teams & agencies that do/know about it!

  • @baronjutter
    @baronjutter Рік тому +2

    It felt sillier and sillier that they kept SG1 and the wider galaxy a total secret from earth even while earth was essentially forging an intergalactic empire in the background. Fleets of warships, vast interstellar alliances, tech trade, all while earth was somehow totally in the dark. Silly.

  • @timezerohour8864
    @timezerohour8864 Рік тому +3

    Man an open star gate program would be blast furnace to US and earths economy. Just the fact being able to have ship and mining stations off wold would save the ecology of earth. The minimal unlocked tech from the program if used correctly could just end the poverty and strife. The option of new off world outpost and could also help with stress the world over.

  • @be-noble3393
    @be-noble3393 Рік тому +4

    Has the Templin Institute considered examining any part of the Infinity (by Corvus Belli) universe.

  • @adammc7170
    @adammc7170 Рік тому +2

    Just for Spaceships alone, can you imagine a Tauri fleet backed by the industrial might of Earth?

  • @AudibleFist
    @AudibleFist Рік тому +1

    Very solid thesis, nice job!

  • @matthewmahler9212
    @matthewmahler9212 Рік тому +2

    Making it public allows you so many more stories, you can explore earth colonists, mistrust in government, complicated politics, jokes about tourism etc

  • @ThatSpecificIndividual
    @ThatSpecificIndividual Рік тому +2

    When I watched SG1 I kept thinking about how cool a successor series would be, one about the stargates being public knowlege and the protagonists are a special forces group tasked in protecting civilians, colonies and the star gates.

  • @andrewreynolds912
    @andrewreynolds912 Рік тому +5

    I agree they should make this public

  • @GoranXII
    @GoranXII Рік тому +3

    'Secrecy' was implausible past the end of season 1. _Disclosure_ (or something like it) should have been episode 2 of season 2, not bumped off back to late season 6.

  • @vallettapetracyneran8587
    @vallettapetracyneran8587 Рік тому +2

    The idea that it is still classified is something that should be explored by a series. I mean its what 2023 come on now kids lets let others have a turn in the sandbox.

  • @AndrewJamesWilliams
    @AndrewJamesWilliams Рік тому +2

    You can bet that there would be those in the military and government who would fight tooth and nail against disclosing the Stargate Program and all its associated technologies as they will not want to share all the cool toys or give up their power.

  • @leablitzfire5223
    @leablitzfire5223 Рік тому +2

    "A person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - K (Men in Black)

  • @detailedgaming6039
    @detailedgaming6039 Рік тому +1

    Not enought Stargate content out there thanks for the video about my favorite universe.

  • @jeffreybeckham1130
    @jeffreybeckham1130 Рік тому +5

    Now this is the sort of solid Templin content I remember!

  • @ultrajd
    @ultrajd Рік тому +2

    I understand why they would want to keep a program like Stargate under wraps at least for a long time. But at the same time, I definitely agree that if they kept something like that sealed up for an extremely extended amount of time, they definitely would have a feeling of betrayal from the populace, who would probably go on to generate massive protests because of the simple loss of trust.
    However, even though in the actual story, the program is conducted with multiple countries I don’t really think a country like the US would in any way be willing to share this kind of technology and such with countries like China, Russia, or a few others. However, in doing so , it would make you wonder just how the rest of the world would react if they learned that the United States government was knowingly, hiding and intergalactic highway system of sorts. I can tell you for one thing that a number of countries would be very upset.

  • @rubaiyat300
    @rubaiyat300 Рік тому +3

    It was my problem from day 1 that all these universe shaking events ending with an arm of the US military as an intergalactic power were happening without much civilian input.

  • @tetsujinyamamoto2219
    @tetsujinyamamoto2219 Рік тому +2

    My personal opinion is the Stargate program have to be revealed to the world once the earth able to make there first starship like BC303 class and BC304 class starship. By that point earth is able to fight alien invasion in equal term so the population of the earth would have to be worried anymore

  • @Ryguy199612
    @Ryguy199612 Рік тому +2

    I think the full on political ramifications ,both foreign and domestic, will be an interesting backdrop to the sequel series.

  • @linz8291
    @linz8291 2 місяці тому

    Bro, I don't know how much times I have been seen your reveals about stargates. You and your teammates are so brave to discuss stargates and galactic neighbors. How about to discuss some independent habitable exoplanets and stargates networks? You can starting some space projects from Sol to neighboring galaxies, so proud of you.

  • @natzo89
    @natzo89 Рік тому +2

    Depending on how much it's revealed it could lead to problems like people angry at America's "Manifest Destiny" attitude which, while working out in the end, many times nearly ended up with the destruction or conquest of Earth. Like the asteroid or the near bombardment from Hak'taks.

  • @Loxen86
    @Loxen86 Рік тому

    Nice work

  • @lordpacer
    @lordpacer Рік тому +2

    It never made sense to keep it secret after anubis’ attack on earth

  • @yazanbaddawi9683
    @yazanbaddawi9683 Рік тому +2

    I'm a simple man, I see Stargate in the title, I click like!

  • @spawnofragnarok9267
    @spawnofragnarok9267 Рік тому +3

    The templin institute please do a video on the demon realm from The owl House

  • @Max_Flashheart
    @Max_Flashheart Рік тому +1

    I am sure Karen from HR is a Goa'uld, Alistair from Accounts has to be an Ori Commander (Hallowed are the Accounts) and the Boss is a Wraith, if ever I saw one!

  • @bigreaderpike
    @bigreaderpike Рік тому +2

    So at what point in the timeline according to the institute should they have revealed stargate?
    I can't even remember if it remained secret up to the end after 10 years

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Рік тому +2

    I really do hoped there'll be a new Stargate TV series where the Stargate Program and the SGC is publicly well known.

  • @idalwave6422
    @idalwave6422 Рік тому +1

    I need to finish my watch of SG1

  • @calebcampbell6353
    @calebcampbell6353 Рік тому +3

    On this note, please talk about the fact that in the halo universe, civilians should already know about the flood and the halo array they could go to any former member of the covenant and get that info from them

  • @anidiot2284
    @anidiot2284 Рік тому +2

    To counter this ,
    If the Star Gate program was made public then how will battles look intense if you have a butch of knight with spare that shoot plasma go against a few tanks

  • @AcidiFy574
    @AcidiFy574 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see content on Babylon-5 & Homeworld

  • @ReVVAdAUL
    @ReVVAdAUL Рік тому +1

    You raise a really good point re: the comparison to the Goa'uld. It'd be fascinating if a new Stargate series ran with that and had the tiny elite controlling that technology be the bad guys. Very unlikely that'd happen though.
    Also a show with such strong ties to the USAF in real life so consistently opposing letting the wider public know about secrets that so directly impacted our lives and safety does raise a few worrying possibilities.

  • @Johnlanzer
    @Johnlanzer Рік тому +1

    I think that's why SGC had allowed for the creation of the TV Show Wormhole X-Treme, which is to prepare the greater public for the existence of SGC.
    Better be met with confusion nore than anger, and questions after questions.
    Plus SGC seems to be preparing for the eventual disclosure when they already have been sending hints to the internet as shown in SG Destiny. Feeding information for the people who found them to disseminate.
    So by the time the disclosure happens, the public is already aware of what to expect. Likely just not the extent of it.

  • @nobodyfromnowhere3597
    @nobodyfromnowhere3597 Рік тому +1

    If Star Gate goes public the problem is we will go at it as venture capitalists and having the most powerful tech and population ready to expand.

  • @DUSTKILLL
    @DUSTKILLL Рік тому +2

    I think it should have been made public around the time they started flying intergalactic starships lol

  • @theJellyjoker
    @theJellyjoker Рік тому +2

    From what I've heard, there is a new sires being planned and the Stargate program is supposed to have gone public.

  • @gzer0x
    @gzer0x Рік тому +2

    The key strategic reason to announce is that at present, the earth can call upon the intellectual and industrial power of 100,000 with a tight and unwieldy security regime, whereas public announcement could instantly bring billions of people into earth defense and R&D...
    You know, with all the galaxy-impacting events SGC has been involved in, a reveal to the wider public would sound a lot more like the "Moon Bears have taken over the secret American Moon Base" announcement...that would be a good april fools video, Templin

  • @aNugget100
    @aNugget100 Рік тому +3

    Glad you haven't dispensed with the lore for this universe yet. Keep it up

  • @PaladinGuy
    @PaladinGuy Рік тому +2

    Another good reason to make the Stargate public knowledge is that instead of having to build Daedalus ships in secret and in small numbers (maybe 1 or 2 built a year) you could build proper large scale shipyards all over the planet and pump out dozens, possibly hundreds, of ships a year.

    • @blackpowderkun
      @blackpowderkun Рік тому

      Imagine private corporations building prometheus class for space mining.

  • @Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
    @Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer Рік тому +1

    What I am asking General is can I fit a Tank Division through that Gate?

  • @arthurbrandonnielsen
    @arthurbrandonnielsen Рік тому +2

    Small thought: Could the continued expansion of the Stargate Program be a way of slowly declassifying it?

  • @theconnorwarman5138
    @theconnorwarman5138 Рік тому

    Interesting topic and video. I'd love to see a Stargate series in which the Stargate Program is announced to the wider public. It'd be interesting to see how such an announcement would impact the modern world and it's subsequent development in the remainder of the 21st Century.

  • @elijahkilian3646
    @elijahkilian3646 Рік тому +1

    I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEEEEEARS! If I got word that not only are we traveling through space but that we can go to other worlds and have fun with aliens I'd be like "SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!"

  • @sheezy7922
    @sheezy7922 Рік тому +1

    The more I've learned/evolved through the years. The more I understand that the SG1 was trying, as best as it was allowed, to inform us on the TRUE story of the world in which we live. Damn near verbatim.

  • @GiskClan
    @GiskClan Рік тому +1

    To be fair, the end of Stargate Atlantis with a technologically advanced alien city landing off the coast of San Francisco full of American military, makes it hard to keep the program hidden anymore.

  • @zpiotroski
    @zpiotroski Рік тому +3

    Truly a topic that needs considering in the current day XD
    honestly though I love bringing up something like Stargate nowadays cause it feels so weirdly in the past now. I also wanna say, the only issue I see opening the program to the public is that there is only 1 gate on earth and ya know funneling 7 billion people through 1 round hole is kinda insane to consider I know that's a ridiculous point but I feel it needs to be asked Xp

  • @janfelchner1543
    @janfelchner1543 Рік тому +1

    What if our universum is a rare one in the multiversum, where stargate was never started. And saddenly SG-1 from another parallel universum, conquered by Ori, comes accidently to our Earth. Will our government start SG-1 program based on the knowledge of the parallel world?

  • @danielbroome5690
    @danielbroome5690 Рік тому

    I totally agree, they need to have the program revealed in the next series (if it ever happens). I imagine having a heavily guarded civilian gateroom for off-world travel similar to the episode 2010, but also retain the SGC using another stargate. Just give the SGC the DHD and route all scheduled dial-ins to the civilian gate, and any unscheduled off-world activations to the SGC.

  • @dragonweyr44
    @dragonweyr44 Рік тому +2

    I can't believe that with all of the people involved in the Stargate program that it hasn't gotten out yet given how many people have come and gone, NDAs be damned
    Also why hasn't all of the tech gained and inspired been revealed