The Magenta Rhino is the most under rated low end ball on the market. I know the difference between a polished solid, and the regular polished pearl Rhinos is minor, but the Magenta is such a great ball. It's my go to recommendation for all new bowlers.
Just got mine in a few weeks ago. I'm very new, been bowling for about 3 months now. But super happy with the ball, it gives me a very manageable hook and I can play it on a couple different angles down the lane. It's very consistent, the only problem is I'm not lol.
I'm getting back into blowing after 18 years and ordered a Rhino Magenta in 14lbs. Hope I made the right choice. It was between that and the Raw solid or hybrid but my pro shop guy said go with the Magenta. The light bulb core is a classic.
I think you handled this topic well. No mention of RG, layouts, grips, etc and only minimal mention of coverstock formulas. I think was the right choice. There is a fine line between not providing enough information, and information overload. I think you struck a nice balance.
I use the Twist, 14 lbs, and it often outperforms my higher end balls. It allows me to stay right and throw somewhere around 15-16. I play two-handed and get my hand around the ball a little and this ball will hit the pocket. I am often 225 and up (league and practice). It may be called an entry-level ball, but I think that is misleading. If used right, it packs a punch. I am interested in the Rhino Pearl as a step up in hook potential.
So, about one and half years ago I bought my first bowling ball, a reactive ball, a Columbia 300 Beast (Blue, Red, Black) in just a 12lb weight (I now throw 14lb). That was absolutely the BEST first purchase decision I have ever made. I still throw it all the time for a quick warmup and on my practice days I will throw it a lot to work on various drills and things. I experiment with it, changing surface, changing throws, working on release. I re-surface back to factory every couple of weeks. I have even practiced with it in my backyard. It is probably, overall, my most used ball, and it was pretty cheap! .. The ball works great! .. Absolutely the best ball I have ever bought considering all of the use I am getting out of it (I have 9 balls now). My recommendation to anyone considering getting into bowling, with the intention of getting involved in the sport, do something similar to what I have done. I cannot recommend it enough!!! .. I am 61yrs old, only been bowling for a year and a half, and yet I now carry a 175+ USBC average and frequently bowl 200+ scores (669 - 3 game series last week). I could not have progressed so quickly without my Beast ball .. no way. And videos from BrunsNick and others have been instrumental in that journey too !! .. Thanks Nick !!!
Great video! My first reactive ball was the Raw Hammer Hybrid and I still use it today. Even with owning other higher performance balls, I still go back to it and it hasn’t let me down. Worth every penny
Thanks Brunsnick! I couldn't help but hear Chubby Checker singing his song when I saw The Twist... lol... I think I got my first reactive resin ball back in 1993.
Man its good for people to have advices or coaches to help them figure things out. Last year, 21 years old and just started to hook the ball. Been playing it straight for like 3 years. Had no clue about ball tech and difference and got a 15lbs zen soul cuz with the knowledge of "its a high end and expensive ball so it must be good" and also "the heavier the better" mentality 😂. Bought a lot of different balls as a 2nd one but keep ending up selling it after cuz of how similar the motion and hook is to the soul. Lesson learned, high end and expensive balls isn't always what you need but more of a want. Recently swapped a black venom with a 14lbs pitch black and it was worth it. I prefer the more predictable and smooth motion of urethane and 14lbs is the perfect weight to balance my speed and revs. Still a lot of money went out tho 😂💸
Probably a dumb question, but . . . . Since the goal of all bowlers is to get more strikes, and since more hook USUALLY means a higher chance to get more strikes, why wouldn't everyone recommend that beginning bowlers start with the most aggressive hooking balls, instead of a ball that has a lower hook potential? It took me a while to adjust the release of my ball to learn how to hook the ball, but as soon as I did, I immediately bought the most aggressive hooking balls I could find and my average has increased from 155 to 200 from one season to the next. I only used my "Entry Level" bowling ball for less than half of one season, and I never use it now. So my advice to anyone who is serious about improving their bowling scores is to first learn what you need to know to hook the ball, and then buy the most aggressive hooking ball you can find, and adjust your bowling technique to get the best scores you can get with that ball. Also having a ball that doesn't hook much at all is useful for picking up spares, and for me, I've found that having that straight ball a little lighter than my regular ball has made it easier on my body as well, but don't go too light, because it will deflect too much and you might miss some spares that you otherwise might have made, if the hadn't deflected so much. My advice is just for new bowlers who don't know these things already.
I like your response as it is well thought out. Let me throw this at you. I was a regular bowler in the 80’s, moving up to a Columbia yellow dot finger tip, and held a 194 average my last several years of bowling….1990-1991. I havent picked up a ball since then and now Im retired, and in a mens league starting in a few weeks. So heres my question. Previously I threw a 16 pound ball. I had a nice controlled hook, not huge by any means…probably low-medium. Went to pro shop and with this information they suggested the Rhino shown in this video…ok, I got it in 14 pounds. Depending on speed, I can hook this off the lane…..I dont throw fast like most others……slow would be 10.5-11mph…….and “fast” for me would be 13-13.5mph. In order to keep this thing “in line” I am finding I have to throw it fast, loft it a fair amount to cut down on the tail end hard hook……all of these videos and pro shop dudes say that you wouldnt be able to keep the ball on the lane with premier balls? What adjustments did you make? What “stats” do you throw? I have no problem going up the line, but Im not generating 16-20mph!! I am already standing slightly left of center with the Rhino. I read and see a lot of players, like you, who go up in line and their average moves up dramatically. Would you be kind enough to walk me through adjustments you made? Thanks!!
@@markkeller9378 I think you were replying to my comment and asking for my reply to your questions, but if you meant to ask your questions of the original poster of this video, you can ignore my response, but here it is. Like you, I'm retired and I took an even longer break from bowling, due to back injuries and two semi-successful surgeries. I didn't know if I would ever bowl again, but at age 68 and after experiencing what was assumed to be a minor stroke, I decided to give bowling a try again, as a way of increasing my physical exercise and activity level. Also, like you, I used to throw 15lb and 16lb bowling balls, but decided to drop down to a 14lb weight for my primary balls, and a 13lb spare ball. I took a few lessons, concentrating on developing a consistent arm motion, and an improved release of the ball to generate more rotation and increase the amount of hook I could get from the ball. I used to stand one dot, or five boards right of the center and aim for the second arrow from the right side of the lane, but as soon as I purchased the aggressive balls (Global 900 Harsh Reality & Hammer Black Widow 3.0), I had to move my starting standing point to one dot, or five boards left of the center, while still keeping my same second arrow from the right side as my aiming point. My ball speed varies between 13mph and 14.5mph, so I'm not a power player by any means. I do use ball speed to adjust, but probably only by 1mph up or down, and I also move my feet from side to side depending on lane conditions. I've developed some pain in the base knuckle of my middle finger, due to the sideways pressure from my "Stroker" style release, so I've started taping my middle and index fingers together, which has solved the pain issue. I'm also considering trying out one of those monster mechanical wrist braces with the extended index finger support, but I'm not sure how that will turn out, or if it will allow me to stop taping my two fingers together. I hope I answered your questions, but if not, let me know and I'll try again to answer anything you want to know. Good luck and keep bowling as long as you can.
Yeah that's how I feel about my ball now, if I take it out against my friends it looks like crazy. League night... straight down the lane. It's a DV8 pitbull
Simple and informative thank you. Do you think for the differential should you sacrifice the wieght by 1 lb ? Because the 13 lb has differential of .040 while the 14 lb has .038
Love this video, I deal a lot with bowlers wanting to get started via High School bowling and we talk about this almost verbatim. When it comes to a new bowler, obviously we aren't going to necessarily know their PAP to be able to completely layout a ball. Do you have any "general" layouts for beginners?
@@brunsnick Good Advice, when I had my Pro Shop that is the layout I would use for newer bowlers, we had wood lanes that would get beat up and I would use that layout for even more experienced bowler, I was a higher rev player and I would mostly use the 1:30 pin outside of ring finger for myself as I didn't want balls that were too flippy. If I still had my shop I would be recommending the Rhino a lot.
How does the rhino compare to the storm tropical surge, because those are the two balls I am between. I am a beginner. What are some of the advantages for each and what is different? Any pointers help so thanks 👍🏼
Would you be able to review a twist on a house shot ? I find it it hooks more than the numbers suggest, more so than my surge unless its drilled stronger maybe. I use conventional grip so hardly any revs or tilt but jeez its hooks a ton for me with the ball doing all of the work. Would love to see peole in my leage try lower end balls and how they do. Is the part 2 of the ufo spinner dead in the water now ?
One point of correction. Increased flare means more friction, not necessarily more shape, which is what most people associate with hook. My high flare balls with stronger cores actually shape much less than my low flare balls with weaker cores.
@@brunsnick Yes. I am a low speed, low rev, zero tilt, Full Roller. For me, strong cores and high flare layouts make a ball less dynamic in the back and more aggressive in the front, the end result being the ball goes much straighter and forward. Low flare layouts and weaker cores allow the ball to scoot through the front and read the back more strongly creating more angularity and continuation.
I'm currently experimenting with dropping down to 14 from 15 to try to gain a couple mph. My 5 man league breaks down quickly after a half game. Game 3 I'm way deeper then I like and using lower diff stuff and I'd prefer not too. I only throw 13.5mph and would like to gain a couple more to help me out. Can you do a video comparison using a 14 & 15 ball drilled identical so we can see mph, rev rate & all the specto data differences?
Thanks for the informational video :) Just started bowling about a week back and thinking of getting some gear. Saw someone selling a 900 Global Tactical Ops 15lbs ball and was wondering if it is advisable to get that as a beginner :)
@@brunsnick I see. Ive actually went to afew pro shops and they have recommended afew "beginner" sets to start out with. Would it be advisable to run with their Polyster Ball set or go direct for a Reactive Ball set?
I say absolutely get a reactive if you want to learn how to hook the ball. A polyester ball will come in handy when you need to shoot spares but you can make reactives go straight as well.
@@brunsnick thanks for the tips :) saw a cheap 2nd hand twist on sale and just got it drilled at a proshop and its working great for straights for now xD still trying to learn to hook but that will take awhile :)
Entry/1st ball does not mean low-end. its all about knowing your pap and where to put the pin.. this is why you need to get to know your PSO (pro shop operator) don't be afraid to plug and re-drill might not look pretty but thats the nice thing about entry level is they are cheap too.. typically. get comfortable and work on the basics/ fundamentals.
@@brunsnick this is true.. however the PSO 'should' be able to get an idea even from a house ball.. just so they can see If you are a cranker vs stroker.. and thats a start..
Hey Nick thanks for the awesome information about these balls. I'm more interested in the Hammer so how does the Raw compare to the Ocean Vibe and Nu Blue. Which of those you think is easy to learn how to hook with and will last me for longest in terms of from beginner to more advanced. I'm not looking to get into competition or league. Just want one ball to last me for awhile without feeling the need to change for the longest period like a few years.
Ocean Vibe steps up to stronger core and cover over RAW. Would be a good starting ball as well, just a little more advanced. I wouldn’t recommend NU Blue as your very first ball. So RAW or Vibe is my suggestion. 👍🏻
Is there any reason why you don't recommend used balls from the shops? They are typically half the price of these. Ours has just about any ball you can think of.
@@brunsnick Got it. Was curious - Keith always has about 20 or 30 of them sitting around from last season and they are in pretty good shape most of the time.
Any detriment to getting something higher end as a beginner? I have a friend that wants a Piranha Powercor or a Perfect mindset as his first ball and get conflicting answers about having a big ball as your first ball.
I probably wouldn’t advise getting an asymmetrical core ball as a first ball. Piranha is strong, might be a little harder to control just starting out.
@brunsnick .... Hello! I've been really enjoying getting into bowling these past few months, and it's time to get my OWN fitted ball. I just recently got my own shoes, finally saving $$ on rentals. Anyway, the pro shops in my area just want to sell a ball and aren't interested in what my concerns are. I would like a ball I can start out straight with, but also has the propensity to learn to a little hooking with down the line. I want a big bang for my buck with a ball I can grow into as a beginner. I don't want to shelve it in 6months as my game improves. Fellow bowlers have suggested the Brunwick Rhino or Raw Hammer....... other say Brunswick Twist or Storm Tropical Surge...Can you compare/contrast/help me?
I thought I did give a difference between all the balls you mentioned in this video. Sounds like you want to build an arsenal after you get the skill set down, and really, all of these balls will stay as a dry lane ball as you get other advanced equipment.
When choosing an 11lb ball and you want it to hook for you, does coverstock matter more than RG and Diff when choosing a ball under 12lbs? I like my ball to start hooking about half way to 2/3 of the way down the land and come back into the pocket. I like Solid cover stock balls for that reason. Does it matter is there is a lightbulb core etc along with RG and Diff numbers if you want to hook a lighter ball at 11lbs or is it the coverstock that matters more? I'm older now and have arthrits in my wrists, but don't want to give up a sport that I really enjoy playing.
@@brunsnick Thank you... I went with these balls... Hybrid Reactive: Roto Grip Hustle USA, Pearl Reactive: Roto Grip Duo, and Solid Reactive: Roto Grip Hyped Solid for my 11lb Bowling Ball Arsenal. Your Thoughts?
Maybe I missed it tho don't think I did. Whats considered low mid high on differential ? People throw out these numbers but never explain them in full meaning nor whats the numbers your looking for..
I've been bowling a lot recently (2-3 times a week) and bowl straight with a 14 lbs house ball to start but I do want to start hooking. I want something a bit above beginner ball so I don't outgrow it fast with how often I'm bowling. This definitely helped my decision looking at the Raw Hammer, and of course I am going to ask my pro shop what they think when I go in next week too! Would you also see the NU Blue Hammer being a decent first buy for a mid performance or is it too much and to go with the Raw Hammer?
Cool video tech bowling ball first New bowers I'm a advanced bowlers so getting bowling balls like entry level Brunswick rhino and Brunswick twist and raw hammer like this would not work for me I use the radical the spy plastic bowling ball for me being a advanced bowlers brunsnick
The Magenta Rhino is the most under rated low end ball on the market. I know the difference between a polished solid, and the regular polished pearl Rhinos is minor, but the Magenta is such a great ball. It's my go to recommendation for all new bowlers.
Just got mine in a few weeks ago. I'm very new, been bowling for about 3 months now. But super happy with the ball, it gives me a very manageable hook and I can play it on a couple different angles down the lane. It's very consistent, the only problem is I'm not lol.
@@gxr0ck I broke out my old Magenta Rhino this week for league, because the league shot has been so light lately. Ball still rolls outstanding. S
I'm getting back into blowing after 18 years and ordered a Rhino Magenta in 14lbs. Hope I made the right choice. It was between that and the Raw solid or hybrid but my pro shop guy said go with the Magenta. The light bulb core is a classic.
I think you handled this topic well. No mention of RG, layouts, grips, etc and only minimal mention of coverstock formulas. I think was the right choice. There is a fine line between not providing enough information, and information overload. I think you struck a nice balance.
Thanks! Wanted to keep it simple. Let the pro shop get them fitted and onto the lanes. Can worry about the rest later.
I agree. I'm a slow learner. This was perfect.
I use the Twist, 14 lbs, and it often outperforms my higher end balls. It allows me to stay right and throw somewhere around 15-16. I play two-handed and get my hand around the ball a little and this ball will hit the pocket. I am often 225 and up (league and practice). It may be called an entry-level ball, but I think that is misleading. If used right, it packs a punch. I am interested in the Rhino Pearl as a step up in hook potential.
Just got a ocean vibe rolled a 233 on a trashed house shot over school holidays. And haven't bowled in over 2yrs. Was very impressed.
So, about one and half years ago I bought my first bowling ball, a reactive ball, a Columbia 300 Beast (Blue, Red, Black) in just a 12lb weight (I now throw 14lb). That was absolutely the BEST first purchase decision I have ever made. I still throw it all the time for a quick warmup and on my practice days I will throw it a lot to work on various drills and things. I experiment with it, changing surface, changing throws, working on release. I re-surface back to factory every couple of weeks. I have even practiced with it in my backyard. It is probably, overall, my most used ball, and it was pretty cheap! .. The ball works great! .. Absolutely the best ball I have ever bought considering all of the use I am getting out of it (I have 9 balls now). My recommendation to anyone considering getting into bowling, with the intention of getting involved in the sport, do something similar to what I have done. I cannot recommend it enough!!! .. I am 61yrs old, only been bowling for a year and a half, and yet I now carry a 175+ USBC average and frequently bowl 200+ scores (669 - 3 game series last week). I could not have progressed so quickly without my Beast ball .. no way. And videos from BrunsNick and others have been instrumental in that journey too !! .. Thanks Nick !!!
Awesome Squidly! Thanks for sharing!
I've been using an old cracked ball in my yard. Work on things.
Great video! My first reactive ball was the Raw Hammer Hybrid and I still use it today. Even with owning other higher performance balls, I still go back to it and it hasn’t let me down. Worth every penny
Thanks Brunsnick! I couldn't help but hear Chubby Checker singing his song when I saw The Twist... lol... I think I got my first reactive resin ball back in 1993.
Man its good for people to have advices or coaches to help them figure things out. Last year, 21 years old and just started to hook the ball. Been playing it straight for like 3 years. Had no clue about ball tech and difference and got a 15lbs zen soul cuz with the knowledge of "its a high end and expensive ball so it must be good" and also "the heavier the better" mentality 😂. Bought a lot of different balls as a 2nd one but keep ending up selling it after cuz of how similar the motion and hook is to the soul. Lesson learned, high end and expensive balls isn't always what you need but more of a want. Recently swapped a black venom with a 14lbs pitch black and it was worth it. I prefer the more predictable and smooth motion of urethane and 14lbs is the perfect weight to balance my speed and revs. Still a lot of money went out tho 😂💸
Hammer Raw Solid was my first ball. Really solid ball that I still throw on house shots.
Raw hammer is such a good ball whether your new or avid in bowling, it's a very good low-medium oil ball
Probably a dumb question, but . . . . Since the goal of all bowlers is to get more strikes, and since more hook USUALLY means a higher chance to get more strikes, why wouldn't everyone recommend that beginning bowlers start with the most aggressive hooking balls, instead of a ball that has a lower hook potential? It took me a while to adjust the release of my ball to learn how to hook the ball, but as soon as I did, I immediately bought the most aggressive hooking balls I could find and my average has increased from 155 to 200 from one season to the next. I only used my "Entry Level" bowling ball for less than half of one season, and I never use it now. So my advice to anyone who is serious about improving their bowling scores is to first learn what you need to know to hook the ball, and then buy the most aggressive hooking ball you can find, and adjust your bowling technique to get the best scores you can get with that ball. Also having a ball that doesn't hook much at all is useful for picking up spares, and for me, I've found that having that straight ball a little lighter than my regular ball has made it easier on my body as well, but don't go too light, because it will deflect too much and you might miss some spares that you otherwise might have made, if the hadn't deflected so much. My advice is just for new bowlers who don't know these things already.
I like your response as it is well thought out. Let me throw this at you. I was a regular bowler in the 80’s, moving up to a Columbia yellow dot finger tip, and held a 194 average my last several years of bowling….1990-1991. I havent picked up a ball since then and now Im retired, and in a mens league starting in a few weeks. So heres my question.
Previously I threw a 16 pound ball. I had a nice controlled hook, not huge by any means…probably low-medium.
Went to pro shop and with this information they suggested the Rhino shown in this video…ok, I got it in 14 pounds. Depending on speed, I can hook this off the lane…..I dont throw fast like most others……slow would be 10.5-11mph…….and “fast” for me would be 13-13.5mph. In order to keep this thing “in line” I am finding I have to throw it fast, loft it a fair amount to cut down on the tail end hard hook……all of these videos and pro shop dudes say that you wouldnt be able to keep the ball on the lane with premier balls? What adjustments did you make? What “stats” do you throw? I have no problem going up the line, but Im not generating 16-20mph!! I am already standing slightly left of center with the Rhino.
I read and see a lot of players, like you, who go up in line and their average moves up dramatically. Would you be kind enough to walk me through adjustments you made?
Thanks!!
@@markkeller9378 I think you were replying to my comment and asking for my reply to your questions, but if you meant to ask your questions of the original poster of this video, you can ignore my response, but here it is.
Like you, I'm retired and I took an even longer break from bowling, due to back injuries and two semi-successful surgeries. I didn't know if I would ever bowl again, but at age 68 and after experiencing what was assumed to be a minor stroke, I decided to give bowling a try again, as a way of increasing my physical exercise and activity level. Also, like you, I used to throw 15lb and 16lb bowling balls, but decided to drop down to a 14lb weight for my primary balls, and a 13lb spare ball. I took a few lessons, concentrating on developing a consistent arm motion, and an improved release of the ball to generate more rotation and increase the amount of hook I could get from the ball. I used to stand one dot, or five boards right of the center and aim for the second arrow from the right side of the lane, but as soon as I purchased the aggressive balls (Global 900 Harsh Reality & Hammer Black Widow 3.0), I had to move my starting standing point to one dot, or five boards left of the center, while still keeping my same second arrow from the right side as my aiming point. My ball speed varies between 13mph and 14.5mph, so I'm not a power player by any means. I do use ball speed to adjust, but probably only by 1mph up or down, and I also move my feet from side to side depending on lane conditions. I've developed some pain in the base knuckle of my middle finger, due to the sideways pressure from my "Stroker" style release, so I've started taping my middle and index fingers together, which has solved the pain issue. I'm also considering trying out one of those monster mechanical wrist braces with the extended index finger support, but I'm not sure how that will turn out, or if it will allow me to stop taping my two fingers together. I hope I answered your questions, but if not, let me know and I'll try again to answer anything you want to know. Good luck and keep bowling as long as you can.
Great information really helpful
I am a tournament and league bowler and I want to say the Raw Hammer Hybrid is incredible, bang for the buck is very impressive
I got the Raw Hammer hybrid today. On a new house pattern I had to go far left and shoot across to hit the pocket. It gave me a lot of hook.
Yeah that's how I feel about my ball now, if I take it out against my friends it looks like crazy. League night... straight down the lane.
It's a DV8 pitbull
I was hooking a 14 lb house ball up the first arrow on my first two weeks of league, so my obvious choice for a first ball was the purple hammer lol.
That works too! 😁
Simple and informative thank you. Do you think for the differential should you sacrifice the wieght by 1 lb ? Because the 13 lb has differential of .040 while the 14 lb has .038
The first reactive ball I got was a OG danger zone from my father. Used it until mid 2001.
Nick, started watching your channel a month ago. You are extremely knowledgeable with the sport. Great video, keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Love this video, I deal a lot with bowlers wanting to get started via High School bowling and we talk about this almost verbatim. When it comes to a new bowler, obviously we aren't going to necessarily know their PAP to be able to completely layout a ball. Do you have any "general" layouts for beginners?
Safe layouts for beginners are typically just up and over the ring finger, maybe slightly over. Pretty much just 1:30 from the grip center. 👍🏻
@@brunsnick Good Advice, when I had my Pro Shop that is the layout I would use for newer bowlers,
we had wood lanes that would get beat up and I would use that layout for even more experienced bowler, I was a higher rev player and I would mostly use the 1:30 pin outside of ring finger for myself as I didn't want balls that were too flippy. If I still had my shop I would be recommending the Rhino a lot.
I love my Twist before I died 😭, the Rhino was ok, but the Raw is just soooo good
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball Brunswick rhino entry level reative bowling ball and raw hammer bowling ball reative bowling ball and Brunswick twist reative bowling ball
How does the rhino compare to the storm tropical surge, because those are the two balls I am between. I am a beginner. What are some of the advantages for each and what is different? Any pointers help so thanks 👍🏼
Would you be able to review a twist on a house shot ? I find it it hooks more than the numbers suggest, more so than my surge unless its drilled stronger maybe. I use conventional grip so hardly any revs or tilt but jeez its hooks a ton for me with the ball doing all of the work. Would love to see peole in my leage try lower end balls and how they do. Is the part 2 of the ufo spinner dead in the water now ?
😊totally agree!!!!
One point of correction. Increased flare means more friction, not necessarily more shape, which is what most people associate with hook.
My high flare balls with stronger cores actually shape much less than my low flare balls with weaker cores.
Perhaps for your style of play being low speed low rev.
@@brunsnick Yes. I am a low speed, low rev, zero tilt, Full Roller. For me, strong cores and high flare layouts make a ball less dynamic in the back and more aggressive in the front, the end result being the ball goes much straighter and forward. Low flare layouts and weaker cores allow the ball to scoot through the front and read the back more strongly creating more angularity and continuation.
Would have been fun to see you throw all three to show the difference in hook potential.
I'm currently experimenting with dropping down to 14 from 15 to try to gain a couple mph. My 5 man league breaks down quickly after a half game. Game 3 I'm way deeper then I like and using lower diff stuff and I'd prefer not too. I only throw 13.5mph and would like to gain a couple more to help me out. Can you do a video comparison using a 14 & 15 ball drilled identical so we can see mph, rev rate & all the specto data differences?
Yessir. It’s on my list. 👍🏻
@brunsnick Awesome thank you.
I’m someone that pretty much exclusively throws a purple hammer. Would the twist be a good step down?
It would give you more length for sure but not much more hook if at all.
@@brunsnick that’s exactly what I need thanks!
Thanks for the informational video :) Just started bowling about a week back and thinking of getting some gear. Saw someone selling a 900 Global Tactical Ops 15lbs ball and was wondering if it is advisable to get that as a beginner :)
I suggest going to your pro shop to get your first ball. 👍🏻
@@brunsnick I see. Ive actually went to afew pro shops and they have recommended afew "beginner" sets to start out with. Would it be advisable to run with their Polyster Ball set or go direct for a Reactive Ball set?
I say absolutely get a reactive if you want to learn how to hook the ball. A polyester ball will come in handy when you need to shoot spares but you can make reactives go straight as well.
@@brunsnick thanks :) will go to a shop to get their recommendation then
@@brunsnick thanks for the tips :) saw a cheap 2nd hand twist on sale and just got it drilled at a proshop and its working great for straights for now xD still trying to learn to hook but that will take awhile :)
Entry/1st ball does not mean low-end. its all about knowing your pap and where to put the pin.. this is why you need to get to know your PSO (pro shop operator) don't be afraid to plug and re-drill might not look pretty but thats the nice thing about entry level is they are cheap too.. typically. get comfortable and work on the basics/ fundamentals.
How do you know your PAP if you’ve never had a ball drilled for you? 🤔 Answer: You don’t.
@@brunsnick this is true.. however the PSO 'should' be able to get an idea even from a house ball.. just so they can see If you are a cranker vs stroker.. and thats a start..
Hey Nick thanks for the awesome information about these balls. I'm more interested in the Hammer so how does the Raw compare to the Ocean Vibe and Nu Blue. Which of those you think is easy to learn how to hook with and will last me for longest in terms of from beginner to more advanced. I'm not looking to get into competition or league. Just want one ball to last me for awhile without feeling the need to change for the longest period like a few years.
Ocean Vibe steps up to stronger core and cover over RAW. Would be a good starting ball as well, just a little more advanced. I wouldn’t recommend NU Blue as your very first ball. So RAW or Vibe is my suggestion. 👍🏻
@@brunsnick Thank you very much for your suggestion. I'll be going with the Ocean Vibe.
At last, an explanation that the new bowler can understand instead of just throwing numbers out there.
i had a black raw hammer but sadly it cracked the whole way around and had to throw it away
Is there any reason why you don't recommend used balls from the shops? They are typically half the price of these. Ours has just about any ball you can think of.
No reason.
@@brunsnick Got it. Was curious - Keith always has about 20 or 30 of them sitting around from last season and they are in pretty good shape most of the time.
What color is that rhino? Thanks for the video
Cobalt Teal Aqua
Where is my Ebonite CRUSH R and Turbo X ????? Be well Nick
Any detriment to getting something higher end as a beginner? I have a friend that wants a Piranha Powercor or a Perfect mindset as his first ball and get conflicting answers about having a big ball as your first ball.
I probably wouldn’t advise getting an asymmetrical core ball as a first ball. Piranha is strong, might be a little harder to control just starting out.
I have 2 hook balls and I’m not sure if they are urethane or reactive. Ebonite GB3 black/blue and Hammer black widow ghost pearl
They are both reactive. 👍🏻
@@brunsnick okay thanks for answering! 🙏
@brunsnick .... Hello! I've been really enjoying getting into bowling these past few months, and it's time to get my OWN fitted ball. I just recently got my own shoes, finally saving $$ on rentals.
Anyway, the pro shops in my area just want to sell a ball and aren't interested in what my concerns are.
I would like a ball I can start out straight with, but also has the propensity to learn to a little hooking with down the line. I want a big bang for my buck with a ball I can grow into as a beginner. I don't want to shelve it in 6months as my game improves.
Fellow bowlers have suggested the Brunwick Rhino or Raw Hammer....... other say Brunswick Twist or Storm Tropical Surge...Can you compare/contrast/help me?
or the roto grip hustle?
I thought I did give a difference between all the balls you mentioned in this video. Sounds like you want to build an arsenal after you get the skill set down, and really, all of these balls will stay as a dry lane ball as you get other advanced equipment.
When choosing an 11lb ball and you want it to hook for you, does coverstock matter more than RG and Diff when choosing a ball under 12lbs? I like my ball to start hooking about half way to 2/3 of the way down the land and come back into the pocket. I like Solid cover stock balls for that reason. Does it matter is there is a lightbulb core etc along with RG and Diff numbers if you want to hook a lighter ball at 11lbs or is it the coverstock that matters more? I'm older now and have arthrits in my wrists, but don't want to give up a sport that I really enjoy playing.
Coverstock matters most.
@@brunsnick Thank you... I went with these balls... Hybrid Reactive: Roto Grip Hustle USA, Pearl Reactive: Roto Grip Duo, and Solid Reactive: Roto Grip Hyped Solid for my 11lb Bowling Ball Arsenal. Your Thoughts?
I have no thoughts on those, I only throw Brands of Brunswick.
Hammer Raw Black Solid Vs Rhino Magenta?
Maybe I missed it tho don't think I did. Whats considered low mid high on differential ? People throw out these numbers but never explain them in full meaning nor whats the numbers your looking for..
.050 = high
I've been bowling a lot recently (2-3 times a week) and bowl straight with a 14 lbs house ball to start but I do want to start hooking. I want something a bit above beginner ball so I don't outgrow it fast with how often I'm bowling. This definitely helped my decision looking at the Raw Hammer, and of course I am going to ask my pro shop what they think when I go in next week too! Would you also see the NU Blue Hammer being a decent first buy for a mid performance or is it too much and to go with the Raw Hammer?
How about a bowling ball for a guy who has owned one Black Widow Bite bowling ball for 10 years and is trying to step his game up with a new ball. 😂
Cool video tech bowling ball first New bowers I'm a advanced bowlers so getting bowling balls like entry level Brunswick rhino and Brunswick twist and raw hammer like this would not work for me I use the radical the spy plastic bowling ball for me being a advanced bowlers brunsnick
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Great job. Gold star. ⭐️