To be fair, the game IS bad, but not any worse than any other looter shooter that's not Warframe or Borderlands. It is not "product of a conspiracy to destroy white man gamers" bad.
He made the title this way to get traction. Whether he thinks it's not a bad game holds really no meaning in general because it really is a vad game. Dumb story, the missions get competitive, killed batman lol, and overall, isnt what anyine wanted. I know you didn't get paid, but for an AAA fame that cost 70 bucks? You're better off getting helldivers 2 they care about the community and isnt a cash grab. 0 reason to get this game actually. You can have your opinion yes but its basically more less of what everyone has been saying just less critical. 4/10 game.
All i see from this game is a step for step of what happened to Marvels Avengers. The only difference is that this game isn't licensed, and on paper, WB could keep the servers up longer if they wanted to. With that being said, WB has no issues canceling failed projects completed or not.
And while Avengers story wans't very good, it still somewhat respected the characters, and the material they worked with. T_T Just Harley lecturing Batman about moralty, tho Arkham Harley canonically likked children, and helped Joker torture Jason for years, is insane. O_O
Watching your video all the way, I have to disagree with most of the opinions in this video. If you're having fun with this game then that's great, but I and many others coming from games similar to this one cannot in good faith say this is a game worth recommending. To most of us, this game seems like just another generic hero shooter made to cash-in on failing success. Although your mention of map size is an opnion I can share as bigger is not always better. Play any game in the best-seller category either indie or AAA and you'll realize they are a thousand miles ahead of this game while SSKTJL is like an ant among goliaths going towards the finish line. Honestly, playing this game is only decent if you have your eyes closed all the way through and you have never played any other game like Elden Ring, Hollow Knight, Hades or even other hero shooters like Apex Legends, Valorant etc. I recommend those games and if you compare those to this game, you'll see how SSKTJL falls short.
That's an INSULT to fortnite. FORTNITE managed to actually do SOME THINGS with it's characters animation and webslinging wise with spider-man that was BETTER than Marvel's avengers. This game DEADASS is worse than Marvel's avengers. Marvel's avengers had decent character interactions and writing to it despite it's gameplay being boring. This game doesn't even have *THAT*
@@Rannockh Yes, I know. I’ll say again, your efforts, and talents, were wasted on this video. Then again it’s your honest opinion so I can’t say much more than that
@cjbladesworth8049 It is kind of you to say, and as a glorified video maker I appreciate it. I don't mind that much wasting it on sskjl since pretty much everything is a learning experience. Got a lot to learn and perfect :)
About the 2 Deadshots question, there are Audio logs that hint repeat 'hint' that the Arkham Deadshot that players fought in Arkham City and Origins was a variant from another earth that somehow got to this universe, as for Batman being alive, well the Knightfall ending showed a Demon Bat haunting the criminals of Gotham and Batman faked his death to protect his allies because it's hard to do that when every villain knows your secret identity, plus it was clear that Batman made a new batch of Scarecrow's fear toxin to affect criminals given how the ending showed thugs robbing a family in an alley. Also Brainiac claims he "unlocked their full potential to serve me" when controlling the Justice League, the only explanation I can think for why the League doesn't kill the squad immediately is because they underestimated them and thought they were small potatoes and not a big issue then with Green Lantern showing them what Brainiac's forces are doing I thought it was to show the threat for the player while story wise show the squad how "better" the integration with Brainiac will be in making Earth into New Colu, Captain Boomerang wants notoriety and to be taken seriously, not as a joke bad guy of the week, while King Shark is experiencing life on the surface, while still showing honorable dignity. Clearly these people didn't see the interview Kevin Conroy did with Dan Allen Gaming in 2021 where he was open to performing a darker Batman since he got a taste of it in Arkham Knight, and another when doing his TV appearance for the Crisis event and wanted more, Rocksteady just happened to make a story that gave Kevin what he wanted to explore.
"Wanted to explore. " I love how people act like voice actors are somehow really deep. They aren't. They offered him a bunch of money to destroy the character and he took it. It's that simple. Same with Mark Hamill in the new movies. He knew exactly what was coming and signed up anyway
The moral bankruptcy of the whole writing team is actually scary. Flash is the only hero, who tried to save the SS members, and no one showed an ounce of sympathy for him, even tho he got captured FOR saving Harley. He went out of his way to find and save those four. Then SS members stood around his corpse, and Boomerang peed on it. While WW got glorified even tho she did nothing to save any of them. And the fact that Harley has the gall to lecture Batman about moralty? XD Arkham Harley is insanely eveil. She killed children canonically in the Arkham universe, she helped Joker torture Jason for years, and killed thousands for laughs. I just don't understand what kind of world the writers are living in to think these thing are ok. O_O
Deadshot stops Boomerang from peeing. In this video, he explains for people who haven't played the game why wonder woman's death mattered. You people echoing these fake points might as well work for ign
And tbf when Tim Drake confronted Batman about his brutality and said, "So you won't kill, but you'll leave them with permanent brain damage?" Batman responded with "And broken bones" if you've played any of those games, you know Batman left cabbages everywhere he went lmao
@@scheevyjenkinz8444 And what? I wasn't dabating the fact that Batman wasn't violent tho. I just highlighted the fact that Harley has no grounds to lecture Batman since she is was worse as far as violent actions go. She killed children canonically.
@@scheevyjenkinz8444 I actually did play the main story. Wonder Woman's death mattered because intersectional feminism (if you don't believe just read Lex Luthor's bio on Wonder Woman) XD And doesn't matter that Boomerang was stopped. The fact matters that the writers thought this would be funny. Every one of the heroes could have been in Wonder Womans place. And in Batman's case it would have made more sense because he is the character who did have more xperience with brainwashing/mind control etc. There was no lore reason to choose her for that role. She was the only one who was allowed to die with dignity.
Is there really a commitment to killing the JL, not really. Th y are coming back hence why they are relying so much on this tired multiverse idea so much
I would love to debate you on why you considered any part of the story well excecated or well delivered. Your case is strange because you seem to acknowledge some of the objective reasoning for why thie story is broken but still some how come out with an overall positive opinion about it. I'd like to understand how you came to that conclusion better.
I think what did a lot for me was the freshness of actually sticking to plot of killing the heroes rather than doing away with something like them breaking out of Brainiac's mind control - theres strong commitment to going with a rather morbid story. I also found a lot of the characterisation, some interactions, and how they play into the story appealing (which I suppose is more of a matter of opinion). The underdog motif is probably one of the thing that I appreciate being there at some points, but overall was very poorly used and maintained. And the ending just doesn't really exist because it's taken over by the game being a live service. I guess a huge part could also be the expectations with which you go into it. If you were to hate the game from the getgo because you'd know Batman dies or (justifiably) hate live services, the game would probably not be able to soothe that perception since it's pretty mediocre. In my experience, I just went in somewhat indifferently, but preparing for an experience that would be bad - only to just kind of enjoy it because I didn't find it as bad as I expected. When I say that I overall enjoyed the story, it's not necessarily like saying 'oh wow it was great, but more like, 'yeah, it was kinda okay'.
@kh I don’t think refreshing is a word I would use for this story, due to the fact of there not being inherently anything innovative with the way it structures its plot. The idea of being the villain killing the heroes is novel at best and in practice within the structure of how this particular rendition of it plays out comes across as sad. Not the good, emotional sad. The kind of sad that leaves you sighing and asking why ‘that’ was the direction they took. No scene gets a chance to breathe without being saturated in humor, boomerang has to try pissing on the flash, shark pilfers green lantern’s ring, Harley carries a defeated, broken slung batman over her shoulder because he did the same to her and an earlier game. The underdog aspect also doesn't work either, I’ll skip the insane plot armor since you already acknowledge it. The game tries to sweep the horrific acts the members of the suicide squad did under a rug. They are all psychotic murderers with Deadshot being the only one who could be painted as morally gray at best with him being a hitman. Haley in particular is a horrific monster that has killed children. But the game never acknowledges this, trying to play them off as dysfunctional anti-heros that are just a little misunderstood. Shark saying his dad issues, Deadshot dropping his daughter every chance he gets and then you get Harley’s chat with Batman on the bench. You said that the bench scene works because it's supposed to be painful. But the pain it induces is not thematic of what they were trying to deliver. The pain we get is cringe. The idea of Arkham Harley trying to take ANY moral high ground over Batman is completely absurd. Again, she's a psychotic killer who has committed horrible acts herself and assisted the joker in the act which created red hood. She’s not redeemable or relatable. We had 3 games building up batman’s character and gave it the perfect end in Arkham Knight, then we had to dig it up for one more game, make him the punchline for poorly executed jokes, then put a bullet in his head. This is why people call it disrespectful, because it is. It undoes everything the previous games did, all those trials and the sacrifice Batman made to save others destined to lead to this. A story like this is not something we call ‘kind of okay.’ It's bad. It's broken. If I wrote a script like this and brought it to my editor I'd get laughed at.
I'd say that the scenes being saturated in humor makes sense since the game tries to steer towards comedy, with a tendency towards seriousness once in a while, kinda like how the suicide squad source material often does, and same with other pieces of entertainment like guardians of the Galaxy. Tbh I'd take that over something overly edgy. If it didn't work for you then, that's likely a preference thing. I'm not sure why you consider it very important for the game to acknowledge that they are horrible people (at least in a direct and obvious manner anyway). In a way, the game does that like pissing on the flash despite him saving them - yeah, it's a horrible thing to do but they are psychotic criminals. It's also why I didn't see Harley's dialogue with batman to be taken as seriously. Of course she'd try taking the high ground - but that's kinda what a villain would do in that sort of situation. Is it not the sort of unhinged doalogue a villain would have when they capture a hero? It's just a look into her deranged psyche. It's probably why you took it as cringe - because you expected it as something to be taken seriously rather than just a villain having a villain speech. I didn't get the part about the game trying to make them look misunderstood tbh - to me they stood out as pretty terrible throughout the story as characters. When it comes to batman's arkham story, I guess to me it comes from a place of being disenfranchised with the concept of writing. At any point, if WB would want to make a new batman game, they could snap their fingers and say that sskjl is not cannon or part of a different universe. So, while I appreciate them using the Arkhamverse to provide context, in the grand scheme of scheme of things it could simply not matter because that's the nature of writing (kind of why deadshot seems to be 2 different people). But in the end, unlike a lot of people, I did not have the expectation that this game would be a return or continuation to the Arkhamverse. That story ended years ago, and going into it thinking otherwise will just be a bad time. Could his send off be done better? Sure? But the rawness of it felt very different compared to it being done in a very fan servic-y kind of way.
@@Rannockh I’l avoid discussing the construction and execution of jokes, since that is a valley of subjectivity we may never find common ground on. What I will talk about is tone. An important aspect of storytelling that plays a pivotal role in separating cringe from funny and edgy from dark. I never said I wasn’t against the idea of the game not having humor, I said it was ‘saturated’ in humor. Tone in storytelling is like color in painting, one where the writer has to understand what volumes of which color are needed for each given scene. A darker scene can be elevated by lighter tones through humor but, when Flash dies, it's not enough that Boomer tries to piss on him, we also have to have all the other characters compliment Boomer’s sizable cock in awe, then he has to talk about how he’s ‘prepared a speech.’ It’s too much color, it's saturated, so it comes across as cringe. Why do I consider it very important that the game acknowledges the suicide squad members as horrible people? I think you missed what I was getting at. My point there was that an underdog story doesn't function when your cast isn’t relatable or likable. In an effort to remedy this the writers decided to draw focus away from the Suicide squad’s past instead of facing it head on. Case in point, Harley when she summarizes her teammates as ‘a deadbeat dad, Sharky who will never be a real boy’ and then herself with: ‘I never was too bright.’ But there is a far deeper discourse here about character writing. For a character to be engaging, they have to have two compelling aspects that are well developed, a ‘Want’ and a ‘Why’. Let's stick with Harley, what does she want in this game? Well, she doesn't want the bomb in her head to go off, but that’s not compelling enough on its own. Why doesn't she want the bomb to go off? Well, because then she dies. Okay, that's how anyone with a bomb in their head would act, how is she special? You could also say her want is to kill batman, which COULD be compelling. But the ‘why’ is weak, as far as we know she does it because Bruce got mind controlled; because she has to stop Brainiac; because if she doesn't the bomb in her goes off. It's all surface layer, there is no depth. No complexity. And to nail my earlier point of tone in a little more, she spends so much of her dialogue cracking jokes that we never get any deeper insight into her want and why. Does she want to kill Batman out of a sense of revenge or a send off to the Joker? I don’t know, it never comes up in the writing. Her talk with Batman on the bench would have been the perfect moment to do that, hell even just a ‘Send my regards to Mr J’ before pulling the trigger would have elevated it more. The deeper reasoning for why any character in this game does anything at anypoint is never explored in any dialogue. Them being villains, them being psychotic, them being murderers with no real morals is something I brought up, because it's core to their character but never properly explored because these writers didn’t know how to make an underdog story with villains as the lead role. Look at the suicide squad movie, not the one with Will smith, the good one with actual depth to its character writing for a night and day difference in what good and bad handling of these characters looks like. Another example would be Kratos in God of war, imagine if the new games never brought up his past or explored his psyche regarding the horrible things he did in the earlier games. Imagine if that kind of character depth is what we got with Harley? At least then this being set in the Arkham universe would make sense. And yes, people had every right to go into this expecting a continuation of the Arkham universe, because this paid piece of media that wants to extract money advertised itself as such.
@@Rannockh I’l avoid discussing the construction and execution of jokes, since that is a valley of subjectivity we may never find common ground on. What I will talk about is tone. An important aspect of storytelling that plays a pivotal role in separating cringe from funny and edgy from dark. I never said I wasn’t against the idea of the game not having humor, I said it was ‘saturated’ in humor. Tone in storytelling is like color in painting, one where the writer has to understand what volumes of which color are needed for each given scene. A darker scene can be elevated by lighter tones through humor but, when Flash dies, it's not enough that Boomer tries to piss on him, we also have to have all the other characters compliment Boomer’s sizable cock in awe, then he has to talk about how he’s ‘prepared a speech.’ It’s too much color, it's saturated, so it comes across as cringe. Why do I consider it very important that the game acknowledges the suicide squad members as horrible people? I think you missed what I was getting at. My point there was that an underdog story doesn't function when your cast isn’t relatable or likable. In an effort to remedy this the writers decided to draw focus away from the Suicide squad’s past instead of facing it head on. Case in point, Harley when she summarizes her teammates as ‘a deadbeat dad, Sharky who will never be a real boy’ and then herself with: ‘I never was too bright.’ But there is a far deeper discourse here about character writing. For a character to be engaging, they have to have two compelling aspects that are well developed, a ‘Want’ and a ‘Why’. Let's stick with Harley, what does she want in this game? Well, she doesn't want the bomb in her head to go off, but that’s not compelling enough on its own. Why doesn't she want the bomb to go off? Well, because then she dies. Okay, that's how anyone with a bomb in their head would act, how is she special? You could also say her want is to kill batman, which COULD be compelling. But the ‘why’ is weak. As far as we know she does it because Bruce got mind controlled; because she has to stop Brainiac; because if she doesn't the bomb in her goes off. It's all surface layer, there is no depth. No complexity. And to nail my earlier point of tone in a little more, she spends so much of her dialogue cracking jokes that we never get any deeper insight into her want and why. Does she want to kill Batman out of a sense of revenge or a send off to the Joker? I don’t know, it never comes up in the writing. Her talk with Batman on the bench would have been the perfect moment to do that, hell even just a ‘Send my regards to Mr J’ before pulling the trigger would have elevated it more. The deeper reasoning for why any character in this game does anything at any point is never explored in any dialogue. Them being villains, them being psychotic, them being murderers with no real morals is something I brought up, because it's core to their character but never properly explored because these writers didn’t know how to make an underdog story with villains as the lead role. Look at the suicide squad movie, not the one with Will smith, the good one with actual depth to its character writing for a night and day difference in what good and bad handling of these characters looks like. Another example would be Kratos in God of war, imagine if the new games never brought up his past or explored his psyche regarding the horrible things he did in the earlier games. Imagine if that kind of character depth is what we got with Harley? At least then this being set in the Arkham universe would make sense. And yes, people had every right to go into this expecting a continuation of the Arkham universe, because this paid piece of media that wants to extract money advertised itself as such.
*Change the title for ya.* *Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is not that BAD, coming from one of the last 500 people still playing this game and paid to say so*
Another accusation of getting paid to say that I'm not as negative about it as other people. Some of you either don't know that paying an amateur with 25 subs to say that the game is not that bad (not even to say it's good) is a bad business decision or have a bizarrely adverse reaction to different opinions.
@@Rannockh linking this to the arkham universe was a shitty bussiness decision aswell so them paying you to defend it isnt off the table, anyway the game is worse than superman 64, cope
While you are entitled to this opinion. I’m beyond over the use of steam Numbers to talk about the player base as a whole. It was reported the console port was being received much better.
I disagree, as someone whos played every Arkham game. This was a terrible game, shitty convenient writing, repetitive gameplay, and God awful jokes. I'm not going to pretend just because not every single piece sucked that the rest of the game didnt. It deserved to crash and burn. Dont even get me started on the awful characterisation on characters weve already met. Disgraceful.
I think you should also keep in mind game companies don't make games, people do. Rocky steady that made the Arkham trilogy aren't the same team as the team that made this game. Those people left the company before this game was released. So crediting this rocksteady with the company that made Arkham asylum, city and knight is a misnomer. That's like going to morehouse college in the late 2000's and crediting that student body with the effort and work the school did in furthering civil rights in the 80's. The 2000's student body was not there in the 80's so it's not realistic to share in the achievements of their predecessors just because of association. I just think that if you want to judge this game based on its own merits, you also have to keep in mind the achievements that the studio is able to currently put out not just what they have previously put out. Hell even great artist have the ability to give a lesser product after their previous work. It only means that that's much more likely for a team that hasn't given that previous work to begin with. Also for a game called killing the justice league it provides lack luster deaths for the justice league. I mean take mortal Kombat for example they put effort in making grewsome ends for all the fatalities. But in this game they just have each character be shot and executed and repeat. I'm not saying it has to be a gore fest but maybe something a bit more imaginative than each character just falls over. The way each justice league member kills the player after their health runs out has more imagination than the deaths of the league itself. I like your video but I don't really agree with your points. But I'm glad you enjoyed the game tho i mean 80 pounds is not cheap
The game itself isnt bad but the story and a couple gameplay mechanics also arent really the best. I played about 30 or so hours of the game and the only positives I gathered from my experience that I considered good was the facial animations, voice acting, and cutscenes, but besides those 3 things? I cant really tell you what else I like about the game because theres not much TO like in my opinion. As someone who has also studied writing for years now, this game just straight up has a terrible story, but Im sure a lot of people would excuse the bad story if the game took place in an another universe rather than a universe where the flash is faster than time itself but still loses to some humans a shark. The gameplay and looter shooter aspect of the game isnt really bad I would say, but it can definitely use some improvement...honestly cant really think of what else to say about the game, theres not much good but theres also not much bad and even some of the things that are considered "bad" arent really bad, just mediocre/average.
It's an elseworlds game. Multiverse shit. It's blatantly obvious that although the events of the 4 arkham games took place here and it is a sequel. It's a sequel in a possible dark fate universe kinda way. This is a possible dark future, not just for batman, not just for the justice league. But the whole damn planet. It's a skynet scenario where brainiac completely lays waste to earth. So is Gotham Knights. Elseworlds. Possible sequels to arkham knight. The events of knight took place but in a different slightly different tone. You can tell the character models and attitudes are slightly different. The entire game makes this obvious. There can still be redemptive quality in the fact they can have a true arkham sequel or storyline where they visit our earth where our arkham series took place. A true arkham knight sequel. Maybe our arkham batman can teamup with the league and them from an alternate dark dystopia future ruled by brainiac to save what can be saved on the other earth's and preventing that from happening here.
honestly I do understand the points that you are making in this game, except for the story part of the game. the game overall I would say was fun as far as gameplay but like you said it got extremely stale. and when the game got stale for gameplay which honestly in my opinion is the only good part about the game it gets stale very quickly and when it did get stale I got bored very quickly. after that I was done with the game the only reason I completed the game was so that I can do the story. and let's be honest even the best part about the game being the gameplay it still isn't that great. you get bored pretty quickly after just playing and grinding for materials. and the worst part about the game is the story which is really the only part that I really cared about for the game to begin with. now Rocksteady is trying to fix their errors and they are trying to basically say that the Justice League that we killed weren't the real ones or something like that and that they were actually synths or replicas. basically Rocksteady is trying to do some damage control which honestly the damage is already done. either way I'm curious to see where Rocksteady goes in the future for the Arkham series if they decide to continue. . . . . . as long as it doesn't involve The Suicide Squad. and the fact that they killed off Arkham Batman the most overpowered Batman I have seen in video games other than maybe the Injustice video game Batman. and on top of that very lovable version of the Caped Crusader they killed off the legendary voice actor Kevin Conroy. who is I'm sorry if anyone disagrees but so the best actor overall for The Dark Knight. and I know that the developers didn't know Kevin Conroy was going to die as The Suicide Squad game was getting developed and by the time they did find out it was already too late but at the same time they shouldn't have killed off Arkham Batman. I also know that Kevin Conroy knew that this version of Batman was going to die because he signed at the contract but I mean he also knew that his time was coming to where he was going to pass away. I just wish that this last performance of Kevin Conroy as The Dark Knight was a little more honorable along with the Arkham Batman version of the character a little more honorable of a death. because that was a pretty large Legacy over four games that was pretty much just destroyed by being tied to a bench and shot in the face like it was nothing. . . . . . and by Harley Quinn nonetheless. and let's be honest, when you are playing as Batman in the Arkham games Harley Quinn is such a mediocre character compared to the Joker and even Clayface . I just hope that Rocksteady fixes what they did. all in all this game was pretty disappointing. even some of the tiny amount of good things that this game had going for it quickly got stale and boring and then more times than not there was more bad things about the game than good.
I have seen gameplay and it does look sort of fun, the character interactions seem enjoyable, the story seems to be whatever. I have thought about getting the game when it goes on sale
to me it doesnt look fun at all, its just a whole clusterfuck to my eyes whenever u hit something or shoot something it doesnt look appealing and rather annoying.
@@seynpurrp That’s valid, this is definitely a game that isn’t for everyone. One of those games that you play for a little while until you get bored of killing waves of enemies
Game is good. Batman fans wanted the justice league to whoop your character's ass and wanted multiple villain and enemy types. They're hating the neon purple villains.
4:30 Mate you are excited about unique characters having unique traversal abilities. No Suicide Squad is probably just mediocre and that is ok, but mediocre is not worth 70 Euro plus microtransactions. I think most bad reviews for the game are on point, there is nothing new here just some copy and paste open world looter shooter with DC skins. Below average can still be fun and that is ok.
If you want stories that are meant to hurt by design, play Drakengard 1 and Nier 1. Not Drakengard 2 or 3, the first one. And not Nier Automata, the first Nier. See if you have the same opinion on KTJL after that.
I honestly just launched the game to recheck and I only see the asylum and task force outfits. Maybe it unlocks a piece of costumisation to them that I've missed?
@@Rannockh Fair, however, to build on that point I would say the store itself is also rather lacking for those looking to purchase things through it. Looking at it just now it's what just the deluxe edition outfits and some recolors nothing really to write home about. Best skin is a free promo from twitch drops. That said I'm not going to fault any company who implements MTX unless said game is a onetime release you get what you get and that's it no content till ever come again. But when it comes to any game that is meant (huge if on this part) to go on for a while initial sales money will fade and the seasons will need to be funded in some manner. I can however agree the pricing is a bit much when it comes to the cosmetics.
The problem is they didn’t need to touch arkham Batman but they did and killed him off, Batman on his own as a character is loved but they didn’t choose a new Batman they chose THE BEST and killed him, this guy took out. Dozens of villains in one night in 3 different games, fought off jokers influence and shot him dead in a park bench, I do love your editing style though it’s actually good for a small tuber
Thanks :) The thing about the story is that tbh, if WB wanted to it could just not matter. They would say it's either not cannon or part of another universe alltogether just as a snap decision and that' that. Maybe it's just me being disenfranchised with the concept of writing stories, or maybe it's the fact that several years have passed since the Arkhamverse story ended, but I felt a lot more neutral about it than the majority of gamers. Naturally this is my opinion, I didn't expect for people to agree with me when I was making the video and that's okay.
You can earn some cosmetics without paying extra if you do the time trials. I believed the hate train until someone bought the game for me and I found out that most of the videos about this game are flat out wrong or lying. I give it a 7/10 but as soon as season 1 drops and we get the new missions it'll be an 8. However. I do not recommend that anyone buy it yet, though. Still too buggy for a large majority of the player base. Only a few of us have been lucky enough to not have any issues and I'm not one of them 😅 So while it's buggy, 2/10
Playing the game for free made me have fun. Im sure if someone spent 70 bucks on it, they wouldn't like it too much. Generally speaking, i had fun playing with friends when the servers didn't desync. The endgame definitely gets repetitive as there are literally only 4 or 5 endgame missions
Yeah, I can totally see the price also being a huge factor. I 100% don't see the game being worth that much, pretty ridiculous especially since it has just about all cosmetic things locked behind microtransactions.
Long story short, you got paid to say this game was good. Some points just seem like you're reaching heavily, like trying to justify paying for the game.
Do you genuinely think that WB (or anyone else, for that matter) would pay a rookie youtuber with 25 subs to make a video about ssjkl being good? Sis, in that case I sure am not getting that paycheck because I ended saying it's mediocre. But feel free to let me know which points are so heavily reached.
It is completely stupid and idiotic of you to completely trash on marvel's avengers for having terrible writing when in reality the writing was ok 🙄 while saying this game has an ok story when it has far more problems with most of the characters being pretty unlikable
@@Rannockh the characters in the avengers game have a personality you just did pay enough attention to notice and at least i didn't want to murder the avengers every time they where on screen
@@Rannockh also the amount of plot armor the suicide squad have is enough to take on an army i also find is strange how some the criticisms you made of the avengers are completely gone when you played ssktjl like how you said the was stupid of the avengers to have information about theme know to the public but the justice league in this game do the exact same thing but it's even worse because they have a display full of confiscated villain tech just open to the public
Unpopular opinion i liked this game maybe i didn't hate the game because i have never played any of the batman games i grew up watching my brother play those games and also i just like the villains more than the hero's ill be honest
I like how this dude admits he had fun while also pointed out flaws yet people still go in on him for not ruthlessly shitting on the game like every other opinion piece you get suggested when searching up this game on UA-cam. Has a based here is the good here is the bad video almost as if he played the game 🤔.
To quote the wise words of Ted "The fact that you have to say "it's not that bad" means that it is that bad"
Lol
To be fair, the game IS bad, but not any worse than any other looter shooter that's not Warframe or Borderlands.
It is not "product of a conspiracy to destroy white man gamers" bad.
He made the title this way to get traction. Whether he thinks it's not a bad game holds really no meaning in general because it really is a vad game. Dumb story, the missions get competitive, killed batman lol, and overall, isnt what anyine wanted. I know you didn't get paid, but for an AAA fame that cost 70 bucks? You're better off getting helldivers 2 they care about the community and isnt a cash grab. 0 reason to get this game actually. You can have your opinion yes but its basically more less of what everyone has been saying just less critical. 4/10 game.
All i see from this game is a step for step of what happened to Marvels Avengers. The only difference is that this game isn't licensed, and on paper, WB could keep the servers up longer if they wanted to. With that being said, WB has no issues canceling failed projects completed or not.
And while Avengers story wans't very good, it still somewhat respected the characters, and the material they worked with. T_T
Just Harley lecturing Batman about moralty, tho Arkham Harley canonically likked children, and helped Joker torture Jason for years, is insane. O_O
and that it LOOKS WORSE THAN THE AVENGERS GAME XD
Watching your video all the way, I have to disagree with most of the opinions in this video. If you're having fun with this game then that's great, but I and many others coming from games similar to this one cannot in good faith say this is a game worth recommending. To most of us, this game seems like just another generic hero shooter made to cash-in on failing success. Although your mention of map size is an opnion I can share as bigger is not always better. Play any game in the best-seller category either indie or AAA and you'll realize they are a thousand miles ahead of this game while SSKTJL is like an ant among goliaths going towards the finish line. Honestly, playing this game is only decent if you have your eyes closed all the way through and you have never played any other game like Elden Ring, Hollow Knight, Hades or even other hero shooters like Apex Legends, Valorant etc. I recommend those games and if you compare those to this game, you'll see how SSKTJL falls short.
Rocksteady really went from Dark Knight to Fortnite
Bro thought he was cooking with this one
And he was.
That's an INSULT to fortnite. FORTNITE managed to actually do SOME THINGS with it's characters animation and webslinging wise with spider-man that was BETTER than Marvel's avengers. This game DEADASS is worse than Marvel's avengers. Marvel's avengers had decent character interactions and writing to it despite it's gameplay being boring. This game doesn't even have *THAT*
@@lometraid6798 My thoughts exactly
Bud, your efforts were wasted on this video. The game is terrible for the price it sells for, and the amount of time it had to polish itself.
It's not something I completely disagree on. I did mention both of those things, in fact.
@@Rannockh Yes, I know. I’ll say again, your efforts, and talents, were wasted on this video.
Then again it’s your honest opinion so I can’t say much more than that
@cjbladesworth8049 It is kind of you to say, and as a glorified video maker I appreciate it. I don't mind that much wasting it on sskjl since pretty much everything is a learning experience. Got a lot to learn and perfect :)
Naw u just mad yah favorite hero got wasted by street level characters 😂😂and the game was fun u 🧂
@@thomashamilton2761 trolling much-?
About the 2 Deadshots question, there are Audio logs that hint repeat 'hint' that the Arkham Deadshot that players fought in Arkham City and Origins was a variant from another earth that somehow got to this universe, as for Batman being alive, well the Knightfall ending showed a Demon Bat haunting the criminals of Gotham and Batman faked his death to protect his allies because it's hard to do that when every villain knows your secret identity, plus it was clear that Batman made a new batch of Scarecrow's fear toxin to affect criminals given how the ending showed thugs robbing a family in an alley. Also Brainiac claims he "unlocked their full potential to serve me" when controlling the Justice League, the only explanation I can think for why the League doesn't kill the squad immediately is because they underestimated them and thought they were small potatoes and not a big issue then with Green Lantern showing them what Brainiac's forces are doing I thought it was to show the threat for the player while story wise show the squad how "better" the integration with Brainiac will be in making Earth into New Colu, Captain Boomerang wants notoriety and to be taken seriously, not as a joke bad guy of the week, while King Shark is experiencing life on the surface, while still showing honorable dignity.
Clearly these people didn't see the interview Kevin Conroy did with Dan Allen Gaming in 2021 where he was open to performing a darker Batman since he got a taste of it in Arkham Knight, and another when doing his TV appearance for the Crisis event and wanted more, Rocksteady just happened to make a story that gave Kevin what he wanted to explore.
Yeah, I saw the audio logs too, apparently the theory of the “white Deadshot” is that he’s from another universe
"Wanted to explore. " I love how people act like voice actors are somehow really deep. They aren't. They offered him a bunch of money to destroy the character and he took it. It's that simple. Same with Mark Hamill in the new movies. He knew exactly what was coming and signed up anyway
@@johndodo2062aight
I’m sorry mate, but that game is just shit, I refunded after playing for about an hour
Absolutely fair
I understand where you’re coming from and I respect your opinion.
The moral bankruptcy of the whole writing team is actually scary.
Flash is the only hero, who tried to save the SS members, and no one showed an ounce of sympathy for him, even tho he got captured FOR saving Harley. He went out of his way to find and save those four. Then SS members stood around his corpse, and Boomerang peed on it. While WW got glorified even tho she did nothing to save any of them.
And the fact that Harley has the gall to lecture Batman about moralty? XD Arkham Harley is insanely eveil. She killed children canonically in the Arkham universe, she helped Joker torture Jason for years, and killed thousands for laughs.
I just don't understand what kind of world the writers are living in to think these thing are ok. O_O
Deadshot stops Boomerang from peeing.
In this video, he explains for people who haven't played the game why wonder woman's death mattered. You people echoing these fake points might as well work for ign
And tbf when Tim Drake confronted Batman about his brutality and said, "So you won't kill, but you'll leave them with permanent brain damage?" Batman responded with "And broken bones" if you've played any of those games, you know Batman left cabbages everywhere he went lmao
@@scheevyjenkinz8444 And what?
I wasn't dabating the fact that Batman wasn't violent tho.
I just highlighted the fact that Harley has no grounds to lecture Batman since she is was worse as far as violent actions go.
She killed children canonically.
@@scheevyjenkinz8444 I actually did play the main story.
Wonder Woman's death mattered because intersectional feminism (if you don't believe just read Lex Luthor's bio on Wonder Woman) XD
And doesn't matter that Boomerang was stopped. The fact matters that the writers thought this would be funny.
Every one of the heroes could have been in Wonder Womans place. And in Batman's case it would have made more sense because he is the character who did have more xperience with brainwashing/mind control etc.
There was no lore reason to choose her for that role. She was the only one who was allowed to die with dignity.
@pepita2437 I also thought it would be funny, they should have let him do it. Who cares if the body of a clone gets pissed on ;P
Is there really a commitment to killing the JL, not really. Th y are coming back hence why they are relying so much on this tired multiverse idea so much
Nah it is that bad. I'm not buying it. Would have been better if they didn't try to put it in the arkhamverse. Which they failed at spectacularly
I would love to debate you on why you considered any part of the story well excecated or well delivered. Your case is strange because you seem to acknowledge some of the objective reasoning for why thie story is broken but still some how come out with an overall positive opinion about it. I'd like to understand how you came to that conclusion better.
I think what did a lot for me was the freshness of actually sticking to plot of killing the heroes rather than doing away with something like them breaking out of Brainiac's mind control - theres strong commitment to going with a rather morbid story. I also found a lot of the characterisation, some interactions, and how they play into the story appealing (which I suppose is more of a matter of opinion). The underdog motif is probably one of the thing that I appreciate being there at some points, but overall was very poorly used and maintained. And the ending just doesn't really exist because it's taken over by the game being a live service.
I guess a huge part could also be the expectations with which you go into it. If you were to hate the game from the getgo because you'd know Batman dies or (justifiably) hate live services, the game would probably not be able to soothe that perception since it's pretty mediocre. In my experience, I just went in somewhat indifferently, but preparing for an experience that would be bad - only to just kind of enjoy it because I didn't find it as bad as I expected.
When I say that I overall enjoyed the story, it's not necessarily like saying 'oh wow it was great, but more like, 'yeah, it was kinda okay'.
@kh
I don’t think refreshing is a word I would use for this story, due to the fact of there not being inherently anything innovative with the way it structures its plot. The idea of being the villain killing the heroes is novel at best and in practice within the structure of how this particular rendition of it plays out comes across as sad. Not the good, emotional sad. The kind of sad that leaves you sighing and asking why ‘that’ was the direction they took. No scene gets a chance to breathe without being saturated in humor, boomerang has to try pissing on the flash, shark pilfers green lantern’s ring, Harley carries a defeated, broken slung batman over her shoulder because he did the same to her and an earlier game.
The underdog aspect also doesn't work either, I’ll skip the insane plot armor since you already acknowledge it. The game tries to sweep the horrific acts the members of the suicide squad did under a rug. They are all psychotic murderers with Deadshot being the only one who could be painted as morally gray at best with him being a hitman. Haley in particular is a horrific monster that has killed children. But the game never acknowledges this, trying to play them off as dysfunctional anti-heros that are just a little misunderstood. Shark saying his dad issues, Deadshot dropping his daughter every chance he gets and then you get Harley’s chat with Batman on the bench.
You said that the bench scene works because it's supposed to be painful. But the pain it induces is not thematic of what they were trying to deliver. The pain we get is cringe. The idea of Arkham Harley trying to take ANY moral high ground over Batman is completely absurd. Again, she's a psychotic killer who has committed horrible acts herself and assisted the joker in the act which created red hood. She’s not redeemable or relatable. We had 3 games building up batman’s character and gave it the perfect end in Arkham Knight, then we had to dig it up for one more game, make him the punchline for poorly executed jokes, then put a bullet in his head. This is why people call it disrespectful, because it is. It undoes everything the previous games did, all those trials and the sacrifice Batman made to save others destined to lead to this.
A story like this is not something we call ‘kind of okay.’ It's bad. It's broken. If I wrote a script like this and brought it to my editor I'd get laughed at.
I'd say that the scenes being saturated in humor makes sense since the game tries to steer towards comedy, with a tendency towards seriousness once in a while, kinda like how the suicide squad source material often does, and same with other pieces of entertainment like guardians of the Galaxy. Tbh I'd take that over something overly edgy. If it didn't work for you then, that's likely a preference thing.
I'm not sure why you consider it very important for the game to acknowledge that they are horrible people (at least in a direct and obvious manner anyway). In a way, the game does that like pissing on the flash despite him saving them - yeah, it's a horrible thing to do but they are psychotic criminals. It's also why I didn't see Harley's dialogue with batman to be taken as seriously. Of course she'd try taking the high ground - but that's kinda what a villain would do in that sort of situation. Is it not the sort of unhinged doalogue a villain would have when they capture a hero? It's just a look into her deranged psyche. It's probably why you took it as cringe - because you expected it as something to be taken seriously rather than just a villain having a villain speech. I didn't get the part about the game trying to make them look misunderstood tbh - to me they stood out as pretty terrible throughout the story as characters.
When it comes to batman's arkham story, I guess to me it comes from a place of being disenfranchised with the concept of writing. At any point, if WB would want to make a new batman game, they could snap their fingers and say that sskjl is not cannon or part of a different universe. So, while I appreciate them using the Arkhamverse to provide context, in the grand scheme of scheme of things it could simply not matter because that's the nature of writing (kind of why deadshot seems to be 2 different people). But in the end, unlike a lot of people, I did not have the expectation that this game would be a return or continuation to the Arkhamverse. That story ended years ago, and going into it thinking otherwise will just be a bad time. Could his send off be done better? Sure? But the rawness of it felt very different compared to it being done in a very fan servic-y kind of way.
@@Rannockh I’l avoid discussing the construction and execution of jokes, since that is a valley of subjectivity we may never find common ground on. What I will talk about is tone. An important aspect of storytelling that plays a pivotal role in separating cringe from funny and edgy from dark. I never said I wasn’t against the idea of the game not having humor, I said it was ‘saturated’ in humor. Tone in storytelling is like color in painting, one where the writer has to understand what volumes of which color are needed for each given scene. A darker scene can be elevated by lighter tones through humor but, when Flash dies, it's not enough that Boomer tries to piss on him, we also have to have all the other characters compliment Boomer’s sizable cock in awe, then he has to talk about how he’s ‘prepared a speech.’ It’s too much color, it's saturated, so it comes across as cringe.
Why do I consider it very important that the game acknowledges the suicide squad members as horrible people? I think you missed what I was getting at. My point there was that an underdog story doesn't function when your cast isn’t relatable or likable. In an effort to remedy this the writers decided to draw focus away from the Suicide squad’s past instead of facing it head on. Case in point, Harley when she summarizes her teammates as ‘a deadbeat dad, Sharky who will never be a real boy’ and then herself with: ‘I never was too bright.’
But there is a far deeper discourse here about character writing. For a character to be engaging, they have to have two compelling aspects that are well developed, a ‘Want’ and a ‘Why’. Let's stick with Harley, what does she want in this game? Well, she doesn't want the bomb in her head to go off, but that’s not compelling enough on its own. Why doesn't she want the bomb to go off? Well, because then she dies. Okay, that's how anyone with a bomb in their head would act, how is she special? You could also say her want is to kill batman, which COULD be compelling. But the ‘why’ is weak, as far as we know she does it because Bruce got mind controlled; because she has to stop Brainiac; because if she doesn't the bomb in her goes off. It's all surface layer, there is no depth. No complexity. And to nail my earlier point of tone in a little more, she spends so much of her dialogue cracking jokes that we never get any deeper insight into her want and why. Does she want to kill Batman out of a sense of revenge or a send off to the Joker? I don’t know, it never comes up in the writing. Her talk with Batman on the bench would have been the perfect moment to do that, hell even just a ‘Send my regards to Mr J’ before pulling the trigger would have elevated it more. The deeper reasoning for why any character in this game does anything at anypoint is never explored in any dialogue. Them being villains, them being psychotic, them being murderers with no real morals is something I brought up, because it's core to their character but never properly explored because these writers didn’t know how to make an underdog story with villains as the lead role.
Look at the suicide squad movie, not the one with Will smith, the good one with actual depth to its character writing for a night and day difference in what good and bad handling of these characters looks like. Another example would be Kratos in God of war, imagine if the new games never brought up his past or explored his psyche regarding the horrible things he did in the earlier games. Imagine if that kind of character depth is what we got with Harley? At least then this being set in the Arkham universe would make sense.
And yes, people had every right to go into this expecting a continuation of the Arkham universe, because this paid piece of media that wants to extract money advertised itself as such.
@@Rannockh
I’l avoid discussing the construction and execution of jokes, since that is a valley of subjectivity we may never find common ground on. What I will talk about is tone. An important aspect of storytelling that plays a pivotal role in separating cringe from funny and edgy from dark. I never said I wasn’t against the idea of the game not having humor, I said it was ‘saturated’ in humor. Tone in storytelling is like color in painting, one where the writer has to understand what volumes of which color are needed for each given scene. A darker scene can be elevated by lighter tones through humor but, when Flash dies, it's not enough that Boomer tries to piss on him, we also have to have all the other characters compliment Boomer’s sizable cock in awe, then he has to talk about how he’s ‘prepared a speech.’ It’s too much color, it's saturated, so it comes across as cringe.
Why do I consider it very important that the game acknowledges the suicide squad members as horrible people? I think you missed what I was getting at. My point there was that an underdog story doesn't function when your cast isn’t relatable or likable. In an effort to remedy this the writers decided to draw focus away from the Suicide squad’s past instead of facing it head on. Case in point, Harley when she summarizes her teammates as ‘a deadbeat dad, Sharky who will never be a real boy’ and then herself with: ‘I never was too bright.’
But there is a far deeper discourse here about character writing. For a character to be engaging, they have to have two compelling aspects that are well developed, a ‘Want’ and a ‘Why’. Let's stick with Harley, what does she want in this game? Well, she doesn't want the bomb in her head to go off, but that’s not compelling enough on its own. Why doesn't she want the bomb to go off? Well, because then she dies. Okay, that's how anyone with a bomb in their head would act, how is she special? You could also say her want is to kill batman, which COULD be compelling. But the ‘why’ is weak. As far as we know she does it because Bruce got mind controlled; because she has to stop Brainiac; because if she doesn't the bomb in her goes off. It's all surface layer, there is no depth. No complexity. And to nail my earlier point of tone in a little more, she spends so much of her dialogue cracking jokes that we never get any deeper insight into her want and why. Does she want to kill Batman out of a sense of revenge or a send off to the Joker? I don’t know, it never comes up in the writing. Her talk with Batman on the bench would have been the perfect moment to do that, hell even just a ‘Send my regards to Mr J’ before pulling the trigger would have elevated it more. The deeper reasoning for why any character in this game does anything at any point is never explored in any dialogue. Them being villains, them being psychotic, them being murderers with no real morals is something I brought up, because it's core to their character but never properly explored because these writers didn’t know how to make an underdog story with villains as the lead role.
Look at the suicide squad movie, not the one with Will smith, the good one with actual depth to its character writing for a night and day difference in what good and bad handling of these characters looks like. Another example would be Kratos in God of war, imagine if the new games never brought up his past or explored his psyche regarding the horrible things he did in the earlier games. Imagine if that kind of character depth is what we got with Harley? At least then this being set in the Arkham universe would make sense.
And yes, people had every right to go into this expecting a continuation of the Arkham universe, because this paid piece of media that wants to extract money advertised itself as such.
yes, yes it is
nope
*Change the title for ya.*
*Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is not that BAD, coming from one of the last 500 people still playing this game and paid to say so*
Another accusation of getting paid to say that I'm not as negative about it as other people. Some of you either don't know that paying an amateur with 25 subs to say that the game is not that bad (not even to say it's good) is a bad business decision or have a bizarrely adverse reaction to different opinions.
@@Rannockh linking this to the arkham universe was a shitty bussiness decision aswell so them paying you to defend it isnt off the table, anyway the game is worse than superman 64, cope
While you are entitled to this opinion. I’m beyond over the use of steam
Numbers to talk about the player base as a whole. It was reported the console port was being received much better.
@@itsharrellit was too played game for one day and then dipped abysmally. PlayStation even started offering refunds for it
For 40 subscribers, this video quality is fantastic, love the editing, humor and honesty
I disagree, as someone whos played every Arkham game. This was a terrible game, shitty convenient writing, repetitive gameplay, and God awful jokes. I'm not going to pretend just because not every single piece sucked that the rest of the game didnt. It deserved to crash and burn.
Dont even get me started on the awful characterisation on characters weve already met. Disgraceful.
I think you should also keep in mind game companies don't make games, people do. Rocky steady that made the Arkham trilogy aren't the same team as the team that made this game. Those people left the company before this game was released. So crediting this rocksteady with the company that made Arkham asylum, city and knight is a misnomer. That's like going to morehouse college in the late 2000's and crediting that student body with the effort and work the school did in furthering civil rights in the 80's. The 2000's student body was not there in the 80's so it's not realistic to share in the achievements of their predecessors just because of association. I just think that if you want to judge this game based on its own merits, you also have to keep in mind the achievements that the studio is able to currently put out not just what they have previously put out. Hell even great artist have the ability to give a lesser product after their previous work. It only means that that's much more likely for a team that hasn't given that previous work to begin with.
Also for a game called killing the justice league it provides lack luster deaths for the justice league. I mean take mortal Kombat for example they put effort in making grewsome ends for all the fatalities. But in this game they just have each character be shot and executed and repeat. I'm not saying it has to be a gore fest but maybe something a bit more imaginative than each character just falls over. The way each justice league member kills the player after their health runs out has more imagination than the deaths of the league itself.
I like your video but I don't really agree with your points. But I'm glad you enjoyed the game tho i mean 80 pounds is not cheap
the fact they managed to make their game look worse thhan THE AVENGERS IS BEYOND ME CONSIDERING THAT THEY ALSO WORKKED ON THE AVENGERS GAME 💀
The game itself isnt bad but the story and a couple gameplay mechanics also arent really the best. I played about 30 or so hours of the game and the only positives I gathered from my experience that I considered good was the facial animations, voice acting, and cutscenes, but besides those 3 things? I cant really tell you what else I like about the game because theres not much TO like in my opinion. As someone who has also studied writing for years now, this game just straight up has a terrible story, but Im sure a lot of people would excuse the bad story if the game took place in an another universe rather than a universe where the flash is faster than time itself but still loses to some humans a shark. The gameplay and looter shooter aspect of the game isnt really bad I would say, but it can definitely use some improvement...honestly cant really think of what else to say about the game, theres not much good but theres also not much bad and even some of the things that are considered "bad" arent really bad, just mediocre/average.
It's an elseworlds game. Multiverse shit. It's blatantly obvious that although the events of the 4 arkham games took place here and it is a sequel. It's a sequel in a possible dark fate universe kinda way. This is a possible dark future, not just for batman, not just for the justice league. But the whole damn planet. It's a skynet scenario where brainiac completely lays waste to earth.
So is Gotham Knights.
Elseworlds. Possible sequels to arkham knight.
The events of knight took place but in a different slightly different tone. You can tell the character models and attitudes are slightly different.
The entire game makes this obvious.
There can still be redemptive quality in the fact they can have a true arkham sequel or storyline where they visit our earth where our arkham series took place. A true arkham knight sequel. Maybe our arkham batman can teamup with the league and them from an alternate dark dystopia future ruled by brainiac to save what can be saved on the other earth's and preventing that from happening here.
man this made me wanna go play control and forget about this mistake of a game.
honestly I do understand the points that you are making in this game, except for the story part of the game. the game overall I would say was fun as far as gameplay but like you said it got extremely stale. and when the game got stale for gameplay which honestly in my opinion is the only good part about the game it gets stale very quickly and when it did get stale I got bored very quickly. after that I was done with the game the only reason I completed the game was so that I can do the story. and let's be honest even the best part about the game being the gameplay it still isn't that great. you get bored pretty quickly after just playing and grinding for materials. and the worst part about the game is the story which is really the only part that I really cared about for the game to begin with. now Rocksteady is trying to fix their errors and they are trying to basically say that the Justice League that we killed weren't the real ones or something like that and that they were actually synths or replicas. basically Rocksteady is trying to do some damage control which honestly the damage is already done. either way I'm curious to see where Rocksteady goes in the future for the Arkham series if they decide to continue. . . . . . as long as it doesn't involve The Suicide Squad. and the fact that they killed off Arkham Batman the most overpowered Batman I have seen in video games other than maybe the Injustice video game Batman. and on top of that very lovable version of the Caped Crusader they killed off the legendary voice actor Kevin Conroy. who is I'm sorry if anyone disagrees but so the best actor overall for The Dark Knight. and I know that the developers didn't know Kevin Conroy was going to die as The Suicide Squad game was getting developed and by the time they did find out it was already too late but at the same time they shouldn't have killed off Arkham Batman. I also know that Kevin Conroy knew that this version of Batman was going to die because he signed at the contract but I mean he also knew that his time was coming to where he was going to pass away. I just wish that this last performance of Kevin Conroy as The Dark Knight was a little more honorable along with the Arkham Batman version of the character a little more honorable of a death. because that was a pretty large Legacy over four games that was pretty much just destroyed by being tied to a bench and shot in the face like it was nothing. . . . . . and by Harley Quinn nonetheless. and let's be honest, when you are playing as Batman in the Arkham games Harley Quinn is such a mediocre character compared to the Joker and even Clayface . I just hope that Rocksteady fixes what they did. all in all this game was pretty disappointing. even some of the tiny amount of good things that this game had going for it quickly got stale and boring and then more times than not there was more bad things about the game than good.
Just looking at all the floating shit on screen makes me want to puke... oh wait... monitor was dirty... oh no it was actually the game footage.
youre WRONG i think the developers of this did amazing
ON RUINING THE GAME
I have seen gameplay and it does look sort of fun, the character interactions seem enjoyable, the story seems to be whatever. I have thought about getting the game when it goes on sale
I can definitely see it as a game best picked up on a sale, especially since it needs far more content than it has now as a live service.
to me it doesnt look fun at all, its just a whole clusterfuck to my eyes whenever u hit something or shoot something it doesnt look appealing and rather annoying.
@@seynpurrp That’s valid, this is definitely a game that isn’t for everyone. One of those games that you play for a little while until you get bored of killing waves of enemies
Game is good. Batman fans wanted the justice league to whoop your character's ass and wanted multiple villain and enemy types. They're hating the neon purple villains.
4:30 Mate you are excited about unique characters having unique traversal abilities. No Suicide Squad is probably just mediocre and that is ok, but mediocre is not worth 70 Euro plus microtransactions. I think most bad reviews for the game are on point, there is nothing new here just some copy and paste open world looter shooter with DC skins. Below average can still be fun and that is ok.
If you want stories that are meant to hurt by design, play Drakengard 1 and Nier 1. Not Drakengard 2 or 3, the first one. And not Nier Automata, the first Nier. See if you have the same opinion on KTJL after that.
Not all the cosmetics are locked behind MTX as the riddler challenges do reward cosmetics.
I honestly just launched the game to recheck and I only see the asylum and task force outfits. Maybe it unlocks a piece of costumisation to them that I've missed?
@@Rannockh Yes those are what I'm talking about, unless I missed something that is the only way to obtain those cosmetics is by doing his challenges?
@@itsharrell Tbh it is kinda small considering that the game is 80 euros (or your regional equivalent)
@@Rannockh Fair, however, to build on that point I would say the store itself is also rather lacking for those looking to purchase things through it. Looking at it just now it's what just the deluxe edition outfits and some recolors nothing really to write home about. Best skin is a free promo from twitch drops.
That said I'm not going to fault any company who implements MTX unless said game is a onetime release you get what you get and that's it no content till ever come again. But when it comes to any game that is meant (huge if on this part) to go on for a while initial sales money will fade and the seasons will need to be funded in some manner. I can however agree the pricing is a bit much when it comes to the cosmetics.
Bro, stop it. You deserve better games than this heap of shit.
The problem is they didn’t need to touch arkham Batman but they did and killed him off, Batman on his own as a character is loved but they didn’t choose a new Batman they chose THE BEST and killed him, this guy took out. Dozens of villains in one night in 3 different games, fought off jokers influence and shot him dead in a park bench, I do love your editing style though it’s actually good for a small tuber
Thanks :)
The thing about the story is that tbh, if WB wanted to it could just not matter. They would say it's either not cannon or part of another universe alltogether just as a snap decision and that' that. Maybe it's just me being disenfranchised with the concept of writing stories, or maybe it's the fact that several years have passed since the Arkhamverse story ended, but I felt a lot more neutral about it than the majority of gamers. Naturally this is my opinion, I didn't expect for people to agree with me when I was making the video and that's okay.
You can earn some cosmetics without paying extra if you do the time trials. I believed the hate train until someone bought the game for me and I found out that most of the videos about this game are flat out wrong or lying. I give it a 7/10 but as soon as season 1 drops and we get the new missions it'll be an 8.
However.
I do not recommend that anyone buy it yet, though. Still too buggy for a large majority of the player base. Only a few of us have been lucky enough to not have any issues and I'm not one of them 😅 So while it's buggy, 2/10
That's odd, I did complete the time trials and the other collectables for the Plat. But I didn't notice any cosmetics being given to me.
If it’s on sale is it worth it?
Playing the game for free made me have fun. Im sure if someone spent 70 bucks on it, they wouldn't like it too much. Generally speaking, i had fun playing with friends when the servers didn't desync. The endgame definitely gets repetitive as there are literally only 4 or 5 endgame missions
Yeah, I can totally see the price also being a huge factor. I 100% don't see the game being worth that much, pretty ridiculous especially since it has just about all cosmetic things locked behind microtransactions.
yeah no shit, every game is fun with friends
There are more people watching your video than people playing this game lol
Lol true hahaha
it is by far the worst game ive ever seen made by a AAA company XD
Still, this only one of those video creeators that actually play the game and has non NPC opinion but his own.
Bro be honest. You were paid to make this video.
Long story short, you got paid to say this game was good.
Some points just seem like you're reaching heavily, like trying to justify paying for the game.
Do you genuinely think that WB (or anyone else, for that matter) would pay a rookie youtuber with 25 subs to make a video about ssjkl being good?
Sis, in that case I sure am not getting that paycheck because I ended saying it's mediocre. But feel free to let me know which points are so heavily reached.
Don't be fucking stupid hater, people have opinions
@@Rannockh did u just say sis?
Should you buy it?
Short answer - No
Long answer - Yes if you are financially stable enough to burn 70 dollars for 3 hours of fun
Honestly, give it a year and it'll for sure be sold for like 50% of its price. Which tbh you could say about most AAA games nowdays
It is completely stupid and idiotic of you to completely trash on marvel's avengers for having terrible writing when in reality the writing was ok 🙄 while saying this game has an ok story when it has far more problems with most of the characters being pretty unlikable
I'd take characters that are unlikeable any day of the week over characters that have no personality whatsoever.
@@Rannockh the characters in the avengers game have a personality you just did pay enough attention to notice and at least i didn't want to murder the avengers every time they where on screen
@@Rannockh also the amount of plot armor the suicide squad have is enough to take on an army i also find is strange how some the criticisms you made of the avengers are completely gone when you played ssktjl like how you said the was stupid of the avengers to have information about theme know to the public but the justice league in this game do the exact same thing but it's even worse because they have a display full of confiscated villain tech just open to the public
Unpopular opinion i liked this game maybe i didn't hate the game because i have never played any of the batman games i grew up watching my brother play those games and also i just like the villains more than the hero's ill be honest
"Omg Batman is not mega armored by plot?? Then this game suuuuuucks" kids
Bro. No one is pissed of because Batman dies. It is only the way how he dies
Good vid supprised you don't have more support
Thanks, I appreciate it :)
Trying to figure out how to use the UA-cam algorithm to put content out there is honestly pretty tough going solo into it.
Yeah no this game sucks
I don’t believe it, someone gift me the game so I can be proven wrong
I like how this dude admits he had fun while also pointed out flaws yet people still go in on him for not ruthlessly shitting on the game like every other opinion piece you get suggested when searching up this game on UA-cam. Has a based here is the good here is the bad video almost as if he played the game 🤔.
Dead on arrival game of this year 😂
aaaand its dead