Bertuzzi reminds me exactly like David Clarkson. No way they should sign this guy for long term! 4.5 for 3 years at most. Absolutely no trade clauses or forget it.
Gio took a huge paycut when we resigned him. Also really like the McMann and Benoit signings, both left money on the table. Agree that we can't overpay Bert, I think most fans like him but we cant give him a long term deal over $5M. Too risky.
Idealy they'd sign Bert and Domi without over paying and trade Marner in order to improve the defence and or goaltending. Easier said than done of course
The Memorial Cup has been hosted in America before. Grew up in Seattle, we had it in 1992 when Kamloops won. I also think Spokane and Portland might have hosted. I know Seattle for sure, I was there and have souvenirs from it.
I loved Bert in the second half and playoffs even though the numbers weren't all there. He did also have a goal waved off , but people have to remember too , that we have Berube now, Bert under Berube could be awesome
@@tsak912 ya his skating isnt the best but would you rather another kerfoot with that money ? like move on buddy we're most liekly resigning him & you'll deal with it for 3-4 years
as a Leaf fan I definitely hope Hyman and the Oilers win the cup. I also like the Panthers and the way they play. for several months ive thought the panthers would win the cup
Same thing here. Leafs fan, rooting for the Oilers to get the cup back where it belongs in Canada, but those Panthers are just built for winning Lord Stanley's cup.
I was SHOCKED how shitty the London Knights handled that game. And WHY would you go for the OT when you can get possession & move it out along the boards & try for a last second goal???
As a Detroit Red Wings fan I feel your pain. The only reason I follow the Leafs is TUZZI. You either sign him to a fair deal or Edmonton or Florida or Boston will pick him up for a higher price. Here's the Bottom line. You either like sandpaper and grit or you prefer girly boys that tip toe threw the tulips like Brian Boitano aka &itch Marner. I'm starting to think Toronto fans would rather have cappuccino than a Ice Cold beer. If you don't sign Bert it will The Curse of the Bambino part II. Personally the I'd like to see him go. This is the only city that's ever complained about Bert, since I've followed him since his AHL. days. Cheers have a glass of wine. 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷
Bertootsies best years are behind him. And most of those were average. Move on. We need big tough, strong on their skates kinda players. Toronto fans stop accepting mediocracy.
Marner @ 11 million a year and wanting more on next contract, might not be worth anything to another team. There is only one team willing to pay Marner more than 11 million and that's the Leafs...
Leafs or otherwise, as a hockey fan in Canada, how can you NOT cheer on Edmonton .. a team made up of more than 65% Canadians, many of them including their top stars from the GTA ...it's blasphemy to cheer against them. Leafs couldn't do it (and may never will) should support the Canadian teams who can.
Cheer all you want. This Oilers team has to be the worst team to make the final in decades. I give them zero chance in the final. Florida in 4-5 games.
I am from NCal a die hard Leafs fan first, a fan of ALL Canadian teams seconds and finally an original six fan. The Cup is and always will be a Canadian thing and it belongs back in Canada brought home by a Canadian team. Don’t get me started on the fact that there shouldn’t be hockey south of the Mason/Dixon line especially in fucking Florida for fuck sake. So…..yes, I am totally rooting for the Oilers. I hope they beat the living shit out of the Panthers.
Nick, you have to up your vocabulary, you have mentioned Einstein's Insanity quote over and over and over this past year. You said you don't want the Oil to win the Cup before Toronto, maybe if they do, it will spur Matthews on to keep up with his summer training buddy. You're twice as close to your mike as Rosie , that's why you're so loud. Great show.
The problem with trading Marner is that the Leafs will be a two star team after that. Tavares is no longer a difference maker except for his salary cap hit… If Tavares comes back it’s not in a premier role. I would only trade Marner if it makes sense: the Leafs get a rising young star player back on an entry level contract. Then they have a ton of cap space and a good growing talent replacement for Marner to go for it and the cap space to fill the roster. They need a second line center now…..
The Leafs saw what happened without Matthews against Boston. Next to zero offense and Tavares did next to nothing. I don’t know what is wrong with Marner but I believe a different coach could have got a lot more out of him. I think coaching was very much to blame for the poor offensive play every post season. They can’t adapt to the opponent coaching.
The analytics showed that Marner set up a lot of plays in the playoffs. Marner is mostly a setup player but he gets blamed when no one scores? This makes no sense at all. Getting rid of Marner doesn’t fix the *fact* the entire team underperforms and can’t score every single post season. And that is on coaching IMO. The dumb move was running it back year after year with a first time coach who clearly didn’t get it done in the playoffs. We also saw the signs when the team failed to play well against bad teams with consistency. Whose job is it to get the team playing to win when they should and when it matters? Coach.
These guys complain alll fucking year about how shit the team is and how they need to change up the roster.....THEN.... they go and say they should resign bertuzzi and give him 4.5-5.....literally the worst forward on the leafs.....bert is a fourth liner at best.. unbelievable...worst take...u don't know hockey....sheldon played him so much because they had to try and get their 5 million dollar mistake doing something constructive....wake up fellas
Doesn’t anyone question why the leafs trade or lose players and they end up winning a cup on another team they go to??? Leafs are here to make money that’s it why win a cup when they sell out every game.. plus a Canadian team hasn’t won a cup since Gary bettman became commissioner..
Ya Marners playing for a contract, he’s about to have his best season, look what Nylander just did, Toronto just made the mistake of signing him before the end of the season and Nylander fell off significantly, So let Marner play the full season before moving him. Be careful what you wish for, before we made the playoffs for the past 8 seasons we missed many years! Trading an 80-100 point player away, things can turn worse quick, we still need players to first get us to the playoffs. I watched all the playoff games and I don’t remember seeing anybody on the team playing much better Marner, they ALL 💩 the bed. Marners BIG contract is almost up so obviously he’s the guy who ultimately will be moved so we can retool😜 Cheers Boys🍺 Go Leafs Go!!!
I see nothing wrong with jumping on the Oilers bandwagon if the fans dont mind us tagging along :) Im a leafs fan and if any other Candian team was in id be cheering for them also... dont get the hate lol unless we are playing each other. And in the playoffs.... that aint likely for us Leafers lololol
Paying 4 or 5 million for Domi a typically 40-point guy that occasionally fights would be insane. If the team pays him that, they deserve the label of losers.
Deal marner, keep bert and domi. How many times are the leafs going to trade away the wrong players that go on to win cups while the same overpaid dudes remain.
The leafs have a long history of signing or trading for a name rather then giving their youth icetime. It's actually the leafs downfall. Bert=knies, domi=Robertson. Or you can trade verhaeghe away. Mason marchment for grabber. Edmonson for a pick. It's a revolving door or names in resources out for nothing. So close to the cap, why would you resign bert and domi. Those 2 salaries could be used for a top 4 D. But it is treliving. Worst gm in the league and Shanahan's puppet and yes man
Over 50% of leafs nation like life r clueless just retaining n regurgitating what they hear ! U guys r getting it n gd on farmerjoe because ure ripping one player when there is 3 of them that hasn’t done sh*t ! We will c where #34 is without his setup man when he can’t float around looking for quite ice !
exactly why they are not getting it done in the playoffs. to easy to shutdown when you know where the pass is coming and going. getting rid of marner whose 3rd in leafs playoff scoring since 2018/19 behind mathews and nylander at .84 PPG opens up cap space to bring in those much needed more options and since marner is going to want 13 on the next deal he is better off to go to a team where he has more options as well. Keeping them together accomplishes nothing. they will likely need to eat to much of tavares contract and only supports his replacement and resigning Woll and Knies next year. Reilly contract only supports his replacement for the most part
If Domi and Bertuzzi will sign team friendly contracts they did well with Mathews. Trade Marner to open up cap for a 2nd line centre moving Tavares to the wing, a #1 D-man to pair with Reilly and a solid netminder to pair with Woll. Tavares contract goes towards his replacement and resigning Knies and Woll next season
They should sign Bertuzzi and Domi. Get rid of Marner and Rielly. Tavares a bottom 6 player, & I love Tavares. They need stay at home D-men & another goalie. There’s no shortage of Top heavy offence….oh and Knies will be the next Hyman but in Hogtown and they should sign him before he finds his stride
he is worth 3 mil a year. no more. why would he or domi get a raise when they had a worse year than the one before it. neither really did jack shit so giving them a raise is bat shit insane.....and very leafy so you can bet on it happening and they will ignore g and d once again
Bertuzzi reminds me exactly like David Clarkson. No way they should sign this guy for long term! 4.5 for 3 years at most. Absolutely no trade clauses or forget it.
Leaf lifer, watching since the 60's Proud Canadian...........Go Oilers!
Come on guys, you have to get Oiler Boobie Girl as a guest 🤣🤣
You can have her as a guest too if you’ve got ten grand to spend on an evening
Will Farmer got Owned lol Good job Rosey
That's all these Marner stans can do. Insult everybody else cause they have no defense to why their favourite player played so poorly.
Gio took a huge paycut when we resigned him. Also really like the McMann and Benoit signings, both left money on the table. Agree that we can't overpay Bert, I think most fans like him but we cant give him a long term deal over $5M. Too risky.
I think leafs players need to start watching playoff hockey because I don’t think they understand
Idealy they'd sign Bert and Domi without over paying and trade Marner in order to improve the defence and or goaltending.
Easier said than done of course
The Memorial Cup has been hosted in America before. Grew up in Seattle, we had it in 1992 when Kamloops won. I also think Spokane and Portland might have hosted. I know Seattle for sure, I was there and have souvenirs from it.
Bertuzzi didn’t excel in the playoffs against the Bruins. He will demand a larger contract.
Dubas, the gift that keeps on giving.
I loved Bert in the second half and playoffs even though the numbers weren't all there. He did also have a goal waved off , but people have to remember too , that we have Berube now, Bert under Berube could be awesome
Is berube going to teach Bert how to skate?
@@tsak912 ya his skating isnt the best but would you rather another kerfoot with that money ? like move on buddy we're most liekly resigning him & you'll deal with it for 3-4 years
Move on?
I’d rather have 3 McManns. Or 5 big kids from the ECHl who can skate.
Bert 4 5.0 aav, Domi 4 4.50 bothe ltc. Quick question neither 34 or 88 have exactly lit it up in the playoffs why whip Marner?
as a Leaf fan I definitely hope Hyman and the Oilers win the cup. I also like the Panthers and the way they play. for several months ive thought the panthers would win the cup
Same thing here. Leafs fan, rooting for the Oilers to get the cup back where it belongs in Canada, but those Panthers are just built for winning Lord Stanley's cup.
This finals has 2 players who got away from the leafs, hyman and verhaeghe. Let hyman walk for nothing, the later for malgin 😆 🤣
Dallas were noticeable slow and barely laid the body. I like Edmontons chances. But this will be a battle
I was SHOCKED how shitty the London Knights handled that game. And WHY would you go for the OT when you can get possession & move it out along the boards & try for a last second goal???
I’m try to figure out how to join the chat….can someone send me the link? I guess I’m just too old to figure it out
maybe get to see Leafs in the final by 2067
As a Detroit Red Wings fan I feel your pain. The only reason I follow the Leafs is TUZZI. You either sign him to a fair deal or Edmonton or Florida or Boston will pick him up for a higher price. Here's the Bottom line. You either like sandpaper and grit or you prefer girly boys that tip toe threw the tulips like Brian Boitano aka &itch Marner. I'm starting to think Toronto fans would rather have cappuccino than a Ice Cold beer. If you don't sign Bert it will The Curse of the Bambino part II. Personally the I'd like to see him go. This is the only city that's ever complained about Bert, since I've followed him since his AHL. days. Cheers have a glass of wine. 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷
Wings force fed Bert minutes in the hopes that he would develop. He didn’t. He’s a 3rd line winger at best and not worth a penny over $3 mil.
@@tsak912Thank you! He was way overpaid last season.
I wouldn't be mad to see Edmundson go. He looked okay, but don't see giving term or money to him.
Marner’s giveaways are the #1 reason why the Leafs pp stunk in the playoffs
the next leaf who says the word lesson needs to be put on waivers. I don't want to ever hear it again.
Bertootsies best years are behind him. And most of those were average. Move on. We need big tough, strong on their skates kinda players. Toronto fans stop accepting mediocracy.
Leafs are stuck with Marner this upcoming season. If they are he is a 3rd line winger with Bobby Mcmann and minten at center
Claudia Julian said The Leafs have to play out of their comfort Zone…..to win in the Playoffs all Players have to Play Out of Their Comfort Zone!!!
Marner @ 11 million a year and wanting more on next contract, might not be worth anything to another team. There is only one team willing to pay Marner more than 11 million and that's the Leafs...
415 pts over the past 5 regular seasons.
Somebody will want him.
Leafs or otherwise, as a hockey fan in Canada, how can you NOT cheer on Edmonton .. a team made up of more than 65% Canadians, many of them including their top stars from the GTA ...it's blasphemy to cheer against them. Leafs couldn't do it (and may never will) should support the Canadian teams who can.
Imagine not cheering for the Canadian team, especially with Mcdavid in his prime!
Loser, fuck those guys I'd rather Florida win who cares about other Canadian teams
Agreed! Go Oilers. From a Toronto boy.
Cheer all you want. This Oilers team has to be the worst team to make the final in decades. I give them zero chance in the final. Florida in 4-5 games.
Lots of Oilers fans would refuse to cheer for the Leafs. It works both ways exactly the same.
I am from NCal a die hard Leafs fan first, a fan of ALL Canadian teams seconds and finally an original six fan. The Cup is and always will be a Canadian thing and it belongs back in Canada brought home by a Canadian team. Don’t get me started on the fact that there shouldn’t be hockey south of the Mason/Dixon line especially in fucking Florida for fuck sake. So…..yes, I am totally rooting for the Oilers. I hope they beat the living shit out of the Panthers.
Go Oilers! Bring it back to Canada
I love the Knights that was very disappointing
There is no debate. He is 30 , in decline and not worth $5.5 million when you have no backend. This team is not winning it next year
Rosey is on fire again.
Nick, you have to up your vocabulary, you have mentioned Einstein's Insanity quote over and over and over this past year. You said you don't want the Oil to win the Cup before Toronto, maybe if they do, it will spur Matthews on to keep up with his summer training buddy. You're twice as close to your mike as Rosie , that's why you're so loud. Great show.
Don't feed the trolls Rosey lmao
The problem with trading Marner is that the Leafs will be a two star team after that. Tavares is no longer a difference maker except for his salary cap hit… If Tavares comes back it’s not in a premier role. I would only trade Marner if it makes sense: the Leafs get a rising young star player back on an entry level contract. Then they have a ton of cap space and a good growing talent replacement for Marner to go for it and the cap space to fill the roster. They need a second line center now…..
The Leafs saw what happened without Matthews against Boston. Next to zero offense and Tavares did next to nothing. I don’t know what is wrong with Marner but I believe a different coach could have got a lot more out of him. I think coaching was very much to blame for the poor offensive play every post season. They can’t adapt to the opponent coaching.
The analytics showed that Marner set up a lot of plays in the playoffs. Marner is mostly a setup player but he gets blamed when no one scores? This makes no sense at all. Getting rid of Marner doesn’t fix the *fact* the entire team underperforms and can’t score every single post season. And that is on coaching IMO. The dumb move was running it back year after year with a first time coach who clearly didn’t get it done in the playoffs. We also saw the signs when the team failed to play well against bad teams with consistency. Whose job is it to get the team playing to win when they should and when it matters? Coach.
The enemy of my enemy .......
Can we just sign Domi for 3 million times 4. He seems to care about The Leaf's has grit and will stand up for the snow flakes.
These guys complain alll fucking year about how shit the team is and how they need to change up the roster.....THEN.... they go and say they should resign bertuzzi and give him 4.5-5.....literally the worst forward on the leafs.....bert is a fourth liner at best.. unbelievable...worst take...u don't know hockey....sheldon played him so much because they had to try and get their 5 million dollar mistake doing something constructive....wake up fellas
Doesn’t anyone question why the leafs trade or lose players and they end up winning a cup on another team they go to??? Leafs are here to make money that’s it why win a cup when they sell out every game.. plus a Canadian team hasn’t won a cup since Gary bettman became commissioner..
Domi instead.
Ya Marners playing for a contract, he’s about to have his best season, look what Nylander just did, Toronto just made the mistake of signing him before the end of the season and Nylander fell off significantly, So let Marner play the full season before moving him. Be careful what you wish for, before we made the playoffs for the past 8 seasons we missed many years! Trading an 80-100 point player away, things can turn worse quick, we still need players to first get us to the playoffs. I watched all the playoff games and I don’t remember seeing anybody on the team playing much better Marner, they ALL 💩 the bed. Marners BIG contract is almost up so obviously he’s the guy who ultimately will be moved so we can retool😜 Cheers Boys🍺
Go Leafs Go!!!
Some coaches were also-ran players does that make them not great hockey minds?? busup dat bwoy
I see nothing wrong with jumping on the Oilers bandwagon if the fans dont mind us tagging along :) Im a leafs fan and if any other Candian team was in id be cheering for them also... dont get the hate lol unless we are playing each other. And in the playoffs.... that aint likely for us Leafers lololol
Slowest learners in the league.
Paying 4 or 5 million for Domi a typically 40-point guy that occasionally fights would be insane. If the team pays him that, they deserve the label of losers.
Deal marner, keep bert and domi. How many times are the leafs going to trade away the wrong players that go on to win cups while the same overpaid dudes remain.
Will Farmer aka Paul Marner 😂
The leafs have a long history of signing or trading for a name rather then giving their youth icetime. It's actually the leafs downfall. Bert=knies, domi=Robertson. Or you can trade verhaeghe away. Mason marchment for grabber. Edmonson for a pick. It's a revolving door or names in resources out for nothing. So close to the cap, why would you resign bert and domi. Those 2 salaries could be used for a top 4 D. But it is treliving. Worst gm in the league and Shanahan's puppet and yes man
Over 50% of leafs nation like life r clueless just retaining n regurgitating what they hear ! U guys r getting it n gd on farmerjoe because ure ripping one player when there is 3 of them that hasn’t done sh*t ! We will c where #34 is without his setup man when he can’t float around looking for quite ice !
exactly why they are not getting it done in the playoffs. to easy to shutdown when you know where the pass is coming and going. getting rid of marner whose 3rd in leafs playoff scoring since 2018/19 behind mathews and nylander at .84 PPG opens up cap space to bring in those much needed more options and since marner is going to want 13 on the next deal he is better off to go to a team where he has more options as well. Keeping them together accomplishes nothing. they will likely need to eat to much of tavares contract and only supports his replacement and resigning Woll and Knies next year. Reilly contract only supports his replacement for the most part
Leafs fan here, go cats
If Domi and Bertuzzi will sign team friendly contracts they did well with Mathews. Trade Marner to open up cap for a 2nd line centre moving Tavares to the wing, a #1 D-man to pair with Reilly and a solid netminder to pair with Woll. Tavares contract goes towards his replacement and resigning Knies and Woll next season
They should sign Bertuzzi and Domi. Get rid of Marner and Rielly. Tavares a bottom 6 player, & I love Tavares. They need stay at home D-men & another goalie. There’s no shortage of Top heavy offence….oh and Knies will be the next Hyman but in Hogtown and they should sign him before he finds his stride
Resign Bert. No questions asked.
he is worth 3 mil a year. no more. why would he or domi get a raise when they had a worse year than the one before it. neither really did jack shit so giving them a raise is bat shit insane.....and very leafy so you can bet on it happening and they will ignore g and d once again
Cowan and Minten would not be worse; they likely will be better all-around players. Use money to upgrade the defense.
@@aj4to145 nah...massively overpay marner again and run it all back....its the leaf way