Having seen these things in person, up close (I live near the Everett factory), I fully grasp just how *large* they actually are...A passenger version would be completely ridiculous to look at and I'D LOVE IT.
@@vladersek5302 very hard on my body. I was in the fuel tank of the 777 then moved to wings on 737 and the 747 climbing in those wings everyday was a killer.
Boeing has already proven that that’s not an issue they care about, or to put it kindly, they like providing passengers with a lot of fresh air and a once in a life time skydiving experience over the pacific!
I work at the Boeing factory on 777's. I saw first of these planes when it was in the factory. When it was still colored primer green, some people nicknamed it 'the flying pickle.'. After it had the basic white paint, it was nicknamed by some, it limited company, the flying suppository! The hinges for the rear hatch are as big as a truck!
@@dotcinematics I think you're talking about the recent door plug incident. I can't speak for the company, but my own personal opinion is that the build schedule for the 737's is too rapid. Things get missed. I think for the same reason we have so many recalls on new cars
"Could just open up it's tail." I think for a passenger airliner, they would need to seal the tail and make it unable to open. Which could save some weight on the aircraft itself. It wouldn't neeed strong re-enforced hinges or the hydraulic system to power the opening and closing of the tail. Nor would it need locks.
@@kdrapertrucker Not necessarily. They could add really small panels, or just run some sealant, along the inside, for a positive pressure fit, so it can't just get blown off. Other than that and making a new bulkhead for the tail to seal the rear end, most of the "redesign" would involve the task of making a second (and third) floor.
Boeing also uses Dreamlifters now to ship 767 Section 41 (cockpit/forward fuselage) units from Spirit in Wichita to Everett (Spirit makes Section 41 for the 787 in Wichita, as well).
6:12 Recently I was in America for the 1st time and I asked my self "why 10 dollars for a shake?" Then I got a 1.5L Super Jumbo XL shake and it took me an hour to drink all of that
I agree. WHERE in America is there a 24 hour buffet?!?! 🙄 Especially, since Covid hit!... Walmart doesn't even stay open 24 hours anymore! This guy's an idiot. 🤦
Would be way cool to have forward facing glass on the upper deck. Something of a tip of the hat to a design cue of the Olds Vista Cruiser wagon of the 1970s for those old enough to remember.
Being a pilot by flying and landing the Boeing 747 400, Dreamlifter and A380 planes in every country all over the world is one of my biggest dream jobs ever!
Good stuff, you only missed the additional insulation, noise protection, overhead storage compartments, air condition, seats, interior walls, equipment for FA's, emergency exits, oxygen masks, life vests, IFE-related equipment, kitchen, lavatories and the needed range increase to make it competitive with the A380. You can estimate about the same equipment weight as the weight of an average person for every single seat you want to cram into that plane with the additional necessities to make it a competitive product - You can 1.5x that if you want a range increase on the plane as well. The 747-400 has a MTOW of 410 tons, the A380 has an MTOW of 650+ tons.
Every morning from where I live in Marysville it’s near PAE where my dad works and I just see dreamlifters and planes that are being in testing fly around my house
The dreamlifter passenger version could fulfill the C-5 galaxy's passenger purpose to fly cars for business or just for an option for passengers to bring their own cars to other countries
Can you imagine trying to board or deboard 1,000 passengers? Not to mention that the emergency evacuation times would not accommodate 1,000 passengers! Can you imagine 1,000 people waiting at a boarding gate?
You do realize that they are no longer taking orders for the 747 don’t you? They are only manufacturing aircraft that are much more fuel economical. Additionally, there are FAA regulations on how long you can take to evaluate in the even of an emergency. BTW - The 747 aircraft on passenger flights are rarely over 75% occupancy.
The ideal mix Is the 747-8 with a length similar to the 400 model and an upper deck taken from the B777. It doesn't need so much width and heigth as the Dreamliner. The main deck (or bottom deck for passengers) would be similar to the 744 Combi (cargo between 4 and 5 doors) in order to have enough space for baggage and cargo. Option of wingtips as the new B777X Simpler, not so tall, less weight, more efficient. Why not try a video with my idea?
iirc someone did some research about the 747's upper deck stretches and concluded that for max efficiency the hump has to end at the center, right around where the wings are, which is why Boeing stretched the fuselage for the 8i if that wasn't the case I'm sure the later 747s would retain the original length but the upper deck would go all the way to the back PS speaking of efficiency, why don't the dreamlifers have wingtips?
Fun fact (or just fact cause it isnt very fun): the picture used at 1:58 for the China Airlines 747 is the one that crashed as China Airlines flight 611
A dreamlifter 747 double decked for 1070 maximum souls on board would weigh many more tons and would need more wing, landing gear, and fuel. Good concept 👍👍
Just elongating the front hump of the 747 to the tail would result in a much more aerodynamic shape and easier to adept construction. The bulges on the dreamlifter just serve the capability to transport fuselages and would be obsolete when carrying passengers.
3:18 "1,840 metres cubed" is very different from "1,840 cubic metres". It is equal to 6229504000 metres, and is a length, rather than a measurement of volume.
I was up in the E&E bay in one of those when an earthquake struck. It was windy so I just thought it was really windy when everything was shaking around.
The Boeing 747-8 was designed to operate within the same facilities as the 747-400, the aircraft the Dreamlifter is based on. The 747-8 has a higher maximum take-off weight adding over 100,000 additional pounds gross take-off weight over the 747-400. The GEnX engines of the 747-8 are 15% more efficient than the CF6 used on the 747-400 and the wing is also more efficient. This means using the wings and engines of the 747-8 (both models share the same wing-root), at the same stated range, the maximum payload would be 350,000 - 400,000 pounds. This may be enough to produce a Dreamlifter as a passenger variant. The only reason the Dreamlifter was not based on the 747-8 was used 747-400’s are cheaper than a newer 747-8.
Dude you work so hard. You push these videos out all the time. I do 3D modelling myself and I am in awe of how much you produce. I was sure you had an animator or even several. Quality content too. Big fan!
I still think a better 'cargo-to-passenger' conversion would be a bespoke passenger fuselage using the An-225's wings and tail, resulting in a plane that looks like scaled-down Deck III (also seen on this channel) Sure it'd probably still need a modified airport gate just for the colossal wingspan, but the passenger space would actually accommodate passengers. Then again, tarmac-only loading would allow multiple doors to be used in parallel, greatly speeding up boarding/unboarding by going from the front and back and/or both sides in parallel.
The other problem with 1000 passengers is feeding them. You'd need at least 1 flight attendant per 50 passemgers so that's 20 flight attendants. They aren't passengers. That 980 passengers. You'd need mid plane galleys because no cart is going to hold enough meals to serve 1 row let alone 3-5 seats per row. 1 more like 2 mid plane galleys would be necessary if you want breakfast service finished before lunch. That's going to cost you at least 4 rows of center seats or a total of 2 bulkhead to bulkhead rows per galley. Imagine the garbage from just one fight!? That has to be stowed. Like was mentioned, you have to pressurize that gigantic fuselodge, oxygen, call buttons lighting, restrooms (that would be part of the galley space deduction). You might as well just go with the Airbus 380 at 853 passengers because that's about what you'll end up with. Remove first class seating in the AB380 and make it all economy and you might get to 900.
Once we figure out how to make a dual boarding ramp, or maybe a triple, we can use these huge planes. I feel like taking away the door mechanisms and doors and replacing them with pressurization equipment would be feasible with a 2 side boarding procedure on 2 levels maybe for speed purposes.
Having seen these things in person, up close (I live near the Everett factory), I fully grasp just how *large* they actually are...A passenger version would be completely ridiculous to look at and I'D LOVE IT.
I built the wings for the 1st one till I left in august 2020
lucky!
@@davehenson3588 how was it working for Boeing?
@@vladersek5302 very hard on my body. I was in the fuel tank of the 777 then moved to wings on 737 and the 747 climbing in those wings everyday was a killer.
@@davehenson3588Built the wings? They already had wings.
"lets put some people in it" "everyone on board would be freezing and wouldnt be able to breathe"
Boeing has already proven that that’s not an issue they care about, or to put it kindly, they like providing passengers with a lot of fresh air and a once in a life time skydiving experience over the pacific!
@Sean Abram nah, wont work.
look at the A380
Would be interesting to see if the fuselage geometry would tolerate pressurization well.
"...but then in the USA there are 24 hour buffets and their child soda size is the size of a child..." lol
😂😂😂
As an American I would have to agree.
@@Dweller415 same
I too bear witness to these facts and can attest so.
I thought everything's bigger in Russia.
Waht waht the fa*** 😂😂😂😂
A380: I'm bigger than the 747!
Dreamlifter: Are you sure about that?
Isn't the 747 400lcf the same thing as the 744 normal
Just that they increased the hump size
A380: yes I am.
airbus beluga:ehm ehm ehm
@@jenobrentsimbajon3408 747 400lcf:haha you cannot become a passenger aircraft
@@jenobrentsimbajon3408 well, beluga is big in term of size, but it can't handle much weight
I would really love to see a video turning a massive plane into a private jet meant for like four people
A flying mansion would be cool as shit
Taylor swift ahh
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I work at the Boeing factory on 777's. I saw first of these planes when it was in the factory. When it was still colored primer green, some people nicknamed it 'the flying pickle.'. After it had the basic white paint, it was nicknamed by some, it limited company, the flying suppository! The hinges for the rear hatch are as big as a truck!
That is pretty cool sir. :)
What do you have to say about Boeing’s quality control issues today?
@@dotcinematics I think you're talking about the recent door plug incident. I can't speak for the company, but my own personal opinion is that the build schedule for the 737's is too rapid. Things get missed. I think for the same reason we have so many recalls on new cars
@@tobiascalvert3757 totally agree
I’m American and I find the American jokes really funny! Keep up the good work!
Haha gun go brrrrrr
"1000 passengers on a 747"
Ryanair: ONLY 1000? pfffff. let´s put 5000 passengers and charge 10 euros to use the toilets
oh ya would do well on short routes; no need range anyways just ask the passengers to bring their own fuel tanks, or charge them for one
Maybe Ryanair should operate a cruiser instead, the aircraft won't even take off.
they basically thought "lets smooth out the bump by adding another, bigger bump"
Yup😂
Might as well be a triple decker at this point. :)
I wouldn't be surprised if Boeing designers have hunchbacks.
@@user-xq2fz5tz9t Lol... Hours of toiling over schematics and such. So, probably yes
@@user-xq2fz5tz9t 😂
"Yeah i think Ryanair can Fit a few 1000 peapole in there"
-Cit Swiss001 in one of his video
And they might even consider flying it with a 10,000 foot flight ceiling to avoid using all that heavy pressurization equipment. 🤣
peapole
People*
Yeah, plus a duty free shop and 5 fast-food restaurants
"Could just open up it's tail." I think for a passenger airliner, they would need to seal the tail and make it unable to open. Which could save some weight on the aircraft itself. It wouldn't neeed strong re-enforced hinges or the hydraulic system to power the opening and closing of the tail. Nor would it need locks.
That would absolutely reduce weight drastically.
And redesign the entire fuselage since currently only the flighted k is pressurized.
@@kdrapertrucker
Not necessarily. They could add really small panels, or just run some sealant, along the inside, for a positive pressure fit, so it can't just get blown off.
Other than that and making a new bulkhead for the tail to seal the rear end, most of the "redesign" would involve the task of making a second (and third) floor.
Still amazing like every episode. Love the content
Boeing also uses Dreamlifters now to ship 767 Section 41 (cockpit/forward fuselage) units from Spirit in Wichita to Everett (Spirit makes Section 41 for the 787 in Wichita, as well).
Ryanair : "(Heavy breathing)"
As our global population keeps growing, such big aircraft concepts become ever more appealing.
The 747 must never go!
The Dreamlifter seems perfect for Long Hauls, that is if ur flying from AKL - LAX, stop at HNL, and ur good to go from there!
6:12 Recently I was in America for the 1st time and I asked my self "why 10 dollars for a shake?" Then I got a 1.5L Super Jumbo XL shake and it took me an hour to drink all of that
And don't forget they drive around in those huge Tahoe and Expedition SUVs with similarly oversized cupholders to fir their drinks.
@@00crashtest Yeah XD
@@00crashtest and blast their music
$10.00 for a shake?!? Been all over this great land, never spent that amount, not even in NYC🥤
@@saltbeltupstateny4857 It was bigger than Texas XD
their child soda size is the of a child lmao
I saw the dreamlifter on a regular basis in Anchorage. Quite a sight.
I saw one of these in Charleston, SC last week. It was huge! By the way, I’ve yet to see a 24 hour buffet in America, not even in Las Vegas.
I agree. WHERE in America is there a 24 hour buffet?!?! 🙄 Especially, since Covid hit!... Walmart doesn't even stay open 24 hours anymore! This guy's an idiot. 🤦
My favorite plane is the 747.
someone should make KSP mods like this! fill the seats of a realistic 747 concept with hundreds of kerbals!
Agreed. Someone made a 747 in KSP, I think. :)
Also mind you, the Dreamlifter's wing also lacked the winglets. You could slap them back in.
You don't think that maybe they were removed for a reason? Put them back and you bring the problem they caused back. I'll let you research it.
Would be way cool to have forward facing glass on the upper deck. Something of a tip of the hat to a design cue of the Olds Vista Cruiser wagon of the 1970s for those old enough to remember.
Four 747's combined into one dreamlifter doubed 'DEVASTATOR'
Me as a Malaysian, i never know that one of the B747 Dreamlifter was from Malaysia airline B747-400.
I'm so proud of my country.
Then why the Russian name?
@@sovietcomrade6949 boeing 747 dreamlifter doesnt even sound russian ☺☺😙😙😙😙
More like Beluga 747... That thing is chonky.
Super guppy?
Try the hyper guppy!
Thicc 747
Being a pilot by flying and landing the Boeing 747 400, Dreamlifter and A380 planes in every country all over the world is one of my biggest dream jobs ever!
That would be a crowded flight with those wings sitting in there for the 787
6:15 😂 what a line
Yeah! That's all we need! The titanic of the skies!
someone send this to Kelsey at 74 Gear who flies this monster on the regular!
Kelsey would say it how it is. One of my favourite UA-camrs
Just wondering how to evacuate this plane within 90 sec timeframe limit.
Love ❤️ your wonderful videos big Boeing Fan from Oz 🇦🇺.
That would be a dream for me to go onto the Boeing Dreamliner
Good stuff, you only missed the additional insulation, noise protection, overhead storage compartments, air condition, seats, interior walls, equipment for FA's, emergency exits, oxygen masks, life vests, IFE-related equipment, kitchen, lavatories and the needed range increase to make it competitive with the A380. You can estimate about the same equipment weight as the weight of an average person for every single seat you want to cram into that plane with the additional necessities to make it a competitive product - You can 1.5x that if you want a range increase on the plane as well.
The 747-400 has a MTOW of 410 tons, the A380 has an MTOW of 650+ tons.
Here in the USA their child sofa size is the size of a child. That got me crying.
Where do you find these child sofas? I don't have a child yet but I am doing interviews. ;)
@@excitedbox5705 soda. Doesn’t seem to be a word my autocorrect knows.
Imagine waiting for 1000 people to get there bags from overhead. It would be longer than most flights.
“Child soda size the size of a child”
Lmao
ive stood under these things and you really dont understand its size till you do, its insane
The 747 is like the Swiss Army knife of planes.
Every morning from where I live in Marysville it’s near PAE where my dad works and I just see dreamlifters and planes that are being in testing fly around my house
Now, imagine this. A Boeing Dreamlifter combined with the Super Guppy.
Wait... The Boeing dream lifter isn't basically already a hyper guppy?
I'm interested now.
If the plane could carry 900 people how many stewardesses do you think it would need to service the passengers?
Nice video
Those 24 hour buffets are only in Gambling establishments! 🤨
And during a Covid they probably close at 10pm! 🥵
Love it already
1000 wow...funeral homes will be VERY HAPPY+_GRATEFUL FOR boeing's "contribution"
The dreamlifter passenger version could fulfill the C-5 galaxy's passenger purpose to fly cars for business or just for an option for passengers to bring their own cars to other countries
Don't forget about the weight of the fuel that you would need to have a decent range.
sounds like a flight attendant's worst nightmare
Thank you for making this video
Okay, the transition at 2:33 was pretty good.
Can you imagine trying to board or deboard 1,000 passengers? Not to mention that the emergency evacuation times would not accommodate 1,000 passengers! Can you imagine 1,000 people waiting at a boarding gate?
You do realize that they are no longer taking orders for the 747 don’t you? They are only manufacturing aircraft that are much more fuel economical. Additionally, there are FAA regulations on how long you can take to evaluate in the even of an emergency.
BTW - The 747 aircraft on passenger flights are rarely over 75% occupancy.
Im here and is this future of plane or im in youtube wow that plane was so cool
They should put a movie theater and a skymall in one of these things
I live in Seattle so I frequently see this thing flying around town. It is one weird asset looking plane lol
The ideal mix Is the 747-8 with a length similar to the 400 model and an upper deck taken from the B777. It doesn't need so much width and heigth as the Dreamliner.
The main deck (or bottom deck for passengers) would be similar to the 744 Combi (cargo between 4 and 5 doors) in order to have enough space for baggage and cargo. Option of wingtips as the new B777X
Simpler, not so tall, less weight, more efficient.
Why not try a video with my idea?
iirc someone did some research about the 747's upper deck stretches and concluded that for max efficiency the hump has to end at the center, right around where the wings are, which is why Boeing stretched the fuselage for the 8i
if that wasn't the case I'm sure the later 747s would retain the original length but the upper deck would go all the way to the back
PS speaking of efficiency, why don't the dreamlifers have wingtips?
If that’s you in 7:19 I’m subscribing!
You deserve more subs!
i subbed because ur content is fantastic
this plane looks like if a 747 ate a Big Mac 20 times per day
Think the best part to me was when u averaged the size of a us citizen 😅.. Correct and love it, great video of course BTW!
Thanks for using concept I highly appreciate it!
Fun fact (or just fact cause it isnt very fun): the picture used at 1:58 for the China Airlines 747 is the one that crashed as China Airlines flight 611
LAUGHED WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT AMERICAN FAST FOOD MEAL SIZES.
#GOOD_AUSSIE_HUMOR
C O C A I N E
Wow! Very interesting! Lots of people who flying on 747. Surely you can’t be serious!
A dreamlifter 747 double decked for 1070 maximum souls on board would weigh many more tons and would need more wing, landing gear, and fuel. Good concept 👍👍
Just elongating the front hump of the 747 to the tail would result in a much more aerodynamic shape and easier to adept construction. The bulges on the dreamlifter just serve the capability to transport fuselages and would be obsolete when carrying passengers.
epic plane
id put 120 degree window on the hump in the front, that would offer awsome view for passenger
3:18 "1,840 metres cubed" is very different from "1,840 cubic metres". It is equal to 6229504000 metres, and is a length, rather than a measurement of volume.
In my opinion it would be daunting task to certify it for the passengers once built.🤓
EXCELLENT
Wow, a thousand passengers...can't wait to not get on it.
There has already been a 747 that carried 1000 people with no seets no luggage and just people on board
That will be good that this cargo plane will develop into a Passenger plane.
I was up in the E&E bay in one of those when an earthquake struck. It was windy so I just thought it was really windy when everything was shaking around.
Lol as an American we love consistently both in our buffets and our fat jokes.
The Boeing 747-8 was designed to operate within the same facilities as the 747-400, the aircraft the Dreamlifter is based on. The 747-8 has a higher maximum take-off weight adding over 100,000 additional pounds gross take-off weight over the 747-400. The GEnX engines of the 747-8 are 15% more efficient than the CF6 used on the 747-400 and the wing is also more efficient. This means using the wings and engines of the 747-8 (both models share the same wing-root), at the same stated range, the maximum payload would be 350,000 - 400,000 pounds. This may be enough to produce a Dreamlifter as a passenger variant.
The only reason the Dreamlifter was not based on the 747-8 was used 747-400’s are cheaper than a newer 747-8.
Video correction: the child size soda is not the size of a small child, but the size needed to fill if that child was liquified.
Dude you work so hard. You push these videos out all the time. I do 3D modelling myself and I am in awe of how much you produce. I was sure you had an animator or even several. Quality content too. Big fan!
Nope all rendered on my shitty laptop (actually i upgraded it months ago)! It literately renders everynight when I sleep as to keep producing content.
keep making awesome videos! - Very informative and entertaining
I still think a better 'cargo-to-passenger' conversion would be a bespoke passenger fuselage using the An-225's wings and tail, resulting in a plane that looks like scaled-down Deck III (also seen on this channel)
Sure it'd probably still need a modified airport gate just for the colossal wingspan, but the passenger space would actually accommodate passengers. Then again, tarmac-only loading would allow multiple doors to be used in parallel, greatly speeding up boarding/unboarding by going from the front and back and/or both sides in parallel.
Me: woahhhhh.
Ryanair: 3 Decks? Make it into 500 decks!
❤️❤️❤️ beautiful video ❤️❤️❤️
The other problem with 1000 passengers is feeding them. You'd need at least 1 flight attendant per 50 passemgers so that's 20 flight attendants. They aren't passengers. That 980 passengers. You'd need mid plane galleys because no cart is going to hold enough meals to serve 1 row let alone 3-5 seats per row. 1 more like 2 mid plane galleys would be necessary if you want breakfast service finished before lunch. That's going to cost you at least 4 rows of center seats or a total of 2 bulkhead to bulkhead rows per galley. Imagine the garbage from just one fight!? That has to be stowed. Like was mentioned, you have to pressurize that gigantic fuselodge, oxygen, call buttons lighting, restrooms (that would be part of the galley space deduction). You might as well just go with the Airbus 380 at 853 passengers because that's about what you'll end up with. Remove first class seating in the AB380 and make it all economy and you might get to 900.
Someone get this guy a job as a plane modeler
Excellent work and i learn something new thanks Found and Explained!
Loves to say "dash"!
Combi version of this!
Once we figure out how to make a dual boarding ramp, or maybe a triple, we can use these huge planes. I feel like taking away the door mechanisms and doors and replacing them with pressurization equipment would be feasible with a 2 side boarding procedure on 2 levels maybe for speed purposes.
By now Boeing should hire nick to be a passenger conversion consultant!
Excellent video! As usual
Great 👍 video.
I want to call shade on those weight numbers for Americans... But seeing as I'm over that average I have no room (oh the irony) 🤣
America has (most of) the world beat!
@@superdupergrover9857 ah alas, we a hearty people... Depending on your definition haha
Goes hand in hand with British ppl having the poorest dental hygiene. 😉🤣
Record broken by project Solomon
Still it'd been interesting to see a regular 1000 seater jet