That’s true but she lives in a big city ..she should have a clue ? All that aside it’s difficult when you try to tell your non ethnic friends that certain things don’t sound so good because they immediately think your calling them racist say all the black people they know and your just trying to explain why as a black man saying in aggressive in a room full of non black people puts me in a bad situation..but it’s a conversation that as I’m older I realize I must say to my friends if I love them so they don’t say it to the wrong person
@@KB32000 I agree and that is very kind and insightful of you...however, "You do realize that I'm Jewish," didn't rate comment or even consideration with Garcelle. Guess Garcelle thinks her maginalized ethnic group is more important than Dorits?
I wish Crystal could see how gorgeous and healthy she looks. She is literally flawless. The fact that she sometimes struggles to be present because she’s focusing on how thin others are. I want her to own her beauty more
To think 14 year olds are having threesomes is very disturbing. And I don’t think it’s a good look. Obviously everyone knows teenagers are curious but that specific comment was too much.
Shocking. Crystal is the one who called racism on Sutton and then couldn’t explain why. She made a mockery out of a serious issue to create a storyline for herself. She’s so disingenuous.
Did you not see Kyle made a movie about her mother as a tribute Kathy wasn't consulted since whatever reason had blocked Kyle .Kyle covered Kim's drinking for years until she exposed her. Rinna own sister abused drugs and alcohol committed suicide she watched Kim display what she ignored in her sister. Kim loved playing victim created chaos expecting others to pick up her mess. I am glad she admitted and is dealing with her addiction. Kathy escaped married into wealth chased almighty dollars ignored Paris pain locked her away in an abusive re education program that later was exposed as cruel and abusive but Kathy still refuses to admit she was wrong. Sorry rant is long. Search for individual storyline aren't bringing out the best.
Agree, don't go on a reality TV series with your family, then years later claim victimhood because everything is out there for people to judge. Fame or family? Which one matters most at the end of the day?
So funny when Dorit says to Crystal: ‘are you asleep when you’re around us?’ Crystal pauses because she’s thinking about her successful water company she owns and operates.
I can’t believe this never comes up but a couple of reunions ago Dorit screamed at Garcelle like she never ever would to any other women. I think that Garcelle is totally justified with how she’s feeling about Dorit. And Dorit trying to say she can’t be racist because she’s Jewish is the dumbest thing ever!
@@bebetee3620 black people Cant be racist racism was literally invented to oppress them but good job showing you know nothing about power dynamics or history! :)
@@bebetee3620exactly she’s doesn’t need to be educated honestly all 3 of them need to go! They’re fkn boring and so GD annoying! Andy I know you can find 3 more housewives. Ya better leave Erika, Dorit, and Kyle! Get the fuck rid of the rest! We’re the viewers and I promise I know a lot and we won’t watch 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
I am no expert , I feel Kathy was the most upset with Kyle because it seemed like Kyle took her friends side more then Kathys .. We saw them try take Kathy down on TV and it feels like Kyle didn´t stand up for her sister enough on the show or at the reunion .. because if those were my friends doing that to my sister .. The friendship is over .. but what do I know ..
After watching Paris in love it seems like Kathy is that way with everyone. If they don’t take her side or try to talk any type of way that doesn’t agree with what she’s saying she will cut them off or worse. I think she’s lived in such a bubble she doesn’t even realize how she is now. Even Paris is walking on eggshells around her.
Oh for sure, my sister and I are not close and she did a lot of stuff wrong BUT NO ONE, NOT even a boyfriend of mine, can shittalk my sister, I will not have it, it is not their place and I ALWAYS stand up for her
Kathy threatened to put Kyle completely out of work and destroy her family, so why the hell would Kyle then have her back? Make it make sense. Kyle smartly allowed Kathy to be exposed so she doesn't look like the bad person having to go after her. Kathy is a monster.
Kyle really likes to play the victim. She immediately decides to shut Kim up when she is asked for her part in the fight with Kathy… Kyle is incredibly rude, and no one will change my mind, not even Bravo.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 Yeah ok, she is not a racist Dorit just shows her microaggressions towards Garcelle. And doesn't understand what she is doing, but yet a racist like you would think was she did was ok and that Garcelle is a racist.
Garcelle didn’t explain why the word ‘attacked’ offended her. I wish someone would explain to me too, cos I don’t get it. And I’m not a fan of controlling someone’s speech at any time. Someone explain.
This was the FIRST time I could really feel the love between the Richard's sisters. It's clear Kim has really worked on herself; she truly seems better these days. I hope Kyle finds some peace and Middle ground with Kathy, but I fear Kathy is far too insulated and guarded to ever take responsibility for her part in this.
Kyle should've handled the attack from Rinna on Kim much better. What Kyle did was inappropriate. However, Kathy publicly ranting, going on a diatribe where she is threatening to come after Kyle and her family is unfathomable. If I were Kyle, I would stay as far away from as possible from Kathy as I could. Even if Kathy plays nice, deep down she will be seething with anger, which Kyle knows. Kathy needed to get exposed at that reunion, and it had to come from anyone but Kyle in order for the words to have an impact. Do not forget that Kathy has been publicly exposed by Paris for being a spiteful, mean, indifferent, hateful woman. I think Paris can't stand Kathy but both know the importance of playing nice for Hollywood @goodvibes4days397.
@@texan903I sort of disagree. it’s obvious Paris loves her mother very much, I mean they had a whole reality show together recently but I do think it’s interesting how Kathy decided to play the media game after Paris’s documentary came out, by portraying herself as this kooky old lady in season 11 of RHOBH to try to “rehab” her image after she came across terribly on Paris’s documentary. Like I’m sure it was awkward for a bit and Paris, who’s always been incredibly media savy (and inherentes it from her mother and grandmother) probably saw right through Kathy’s act and just had to deal with it and film with her for Paris In Love. I’m sure it’s a complicated relationship, like most families (especially the Richards/hilton one sheesh) but it seems Paris is still ride or die for her parents regardless of their past negligence towards her, given how she clapped back at Mauricio’s claim about Paris’s Dad.
@stxrstrxckmxteo515 Paris is an intelligent, savvy businesswoman. She knew the ramifications her documentary would bring Kathy. That's why Kathy was on a media blitz to try stopping the runaway train. She still wants projects in Hollywood. She is also clever, as you noted, in keeping relations cordial enough to do business, which is why she had to humble herself with Kyle after being exposed at the reunion by Rinna. Kathy has taken some serious hits the last couple of years, but she never shied away from the press and carried on to salvage her image.
Wow why over analyze the most meaningless shit there r enough problems in the word. Pretty sure only Americans have these issues with WORDs so ridiculous
Funny how “strong” Erika agrees with everything Kyle says, even though you can tell she thinks Kyle is full of bullshit 😆 I guess she is just trying to keep her job.
Honestly if she’s still here next season her storyline will be her and PK getting a divorce, because she has nothing else going on for her. She’s too much of a follower for anyone to really care or like her anymore
Garcelle is annoying & she started the show lying & playing victim saying that Kyle didn't pay attention to her when she did . Garcelle is lucky & that she's not in the show the Real Housewives Of Atlanta cause Kenya , Porsha , Nene & Marlo would be calling her all kinds of names & she really would have something real to cry about . Garcelle loves playing the victim & she loves playing the race card . 😂
Oh that's interesting! Kyle distanced herself from her, Erika put a jab at her ignorance on taco Tuesday, Sutton and Crystal are tepid with her and clearly Garcelle and her are not seeing eye to eye.
@@lioking4093garcelle is a whole career actor been in the industry for 35 years,, meanwhile dorit is a con woman who is in the middle of huge bankruptcy and scam scandal so who is the looser now lmao
To everyone who doesn't get it: garcelle wasnt attacking dorit and was the calmest one in that whole conversation, yet dorit decided that garcelle was attacking her despite her calm tone compared to everyone else. That indicates a bias. Its called subconscious bias for a reason. Was garcelle critizing her? Yes. But she was doing it more calmly than anyone else in that room, yet somehow shes the one thats attacking
The only one with Bias is Garcelle. Everyone knows when someone says "attack" in this situation they mean criticizing. Garcelle is the one with privledge for thinking she can dictate how others speak bc she is black. Stay home if your that fragile and cant have a convo with adults without pulling the race card when your about to lose the argument. Garcelle pulled this same crap when confronted by Kyle for stiffing her charity.
I agree 👍💯 it's crazy how people cannot see this knowing good and well Dorit does have microagressions and different standards for Garcelle based upon the color of her skin. It's just true, Dorit can change that with honesty, but if she keeps acting brand new like she doesn't understand then it won't change.
Dorit has said that to loads of the woman throughout the years so she probably didn’t get the new list of words that change on a daily basis that she can’t say. I mean, apparently it’s no one’s job to educate her so I guess she’ll just need to somehow magically know. Garcelle insinuated that Dorit was lying about being robbed. If Dorit insinuated that about Garcelle… that would be racist. That’s not right! And wish everyone would stop pretending that’s ok because it’s not ok. Loads of people know it’s not ok and they’re too scared to say it
Kyle, what’s really more important to you? The show or your relationship w/your family? Once, you honestly come to grips w/the answer you’ll finally be a happier person. And, you won’t need to find a rock to crawl under.😇
Thats what Ive been saying about this show! You have to sell your soul! They’d all rather be famous and they will use their family members to that aim. And Look at Lisa Rinna…does she even have friends anymore cause of this show! One day the show will end and you will have no relationship with family or friends anymore
@o8byrner08There are myriad jobs. She chooses this one, which puts her and her family under public scrutiny for great compensation. Her feigning victimization as a result of her CHOICE to be on a "reality" TV show for $$$ is disingenuous and tiring. Get tf off TV if it's hurting you so badly. Tf.
Oh Kyle! Please. U signed up to do a Reality Show!! U signed up for this!! So u can’t Now say you don’t know how ur life got “so public”. Quit the show if u don’t want the attention. Don’t stay on next year🤷♀️just saying.
@sof34 And its public info that her son is a cop but the mere mention of that sent her into a psychotic episode. So either kids are off the table or they aren't. If they aren't, then let's talk about how her cop son feels about having a criminal step-father and potentially mother..
@@mmmmee8 i didn't defend Erika's reaction to her kid being brought up. And being a police officer has nothing to do with being on only fans?? There's not exactly a risk of being injured or shot when posing on only fans. But go ahead. And Denise has been talking about Sami and herself in the media. Erica has been keeping her son private because of the nature of his line of work. If you can't separate those two things I feel sorry for you.
Crystal looks so good in this, makeup is spot on, face is stunning, so pretty. Dorit still doesn't get it, never will because her mum's BFF is black, hello.
Crystal is great she is really smart and opening up. I love Garcelle too she is super smart and tells it like it is. I felt bad for Garcelle getting upset from the comment from Dorit. Hopefully Dorit wakes up ❤
I feel Crystal should feel vindicated. She spent the last two seasons complaining about how other girls were absolutely tone-deaf regarding race. And everyone started telling her how she should feel about. Guess what, now is Garcelle coming with the same story. Some girls, instead of policing Crystal's feelings, should have done some homework. And now, maybe, we wouldn't find ourselves here ONE MORE TIME.
Yet Crystal spent two seasons race-baiting Sutton, trying to create a narrative that's she's a racist. Remember her getting called out for it at the reunion by everybody, including Andy? She straight up lied.
Dorit has been literally screamed at by most of the women in this cast and she hasn’t described their behavior as “attacking” when it occurs. Yet, when garcelle makes a call observation about her Dorito feels “attacked”. This is the 3rd time on camera that Dorito has used microagressions towards garcelle to paint her under the “angry black woman” stereotype by labeling her a bully and aggressive in similar situations when garcelle is calling her out. I can only imagine what doesn’t make it on screen. Combine this with Doritos comments where she says she can’t be racist cuz all her house help have been minorities and her mom was friends with a black lady and the signs point to Dorito being a clueless stereotyping ditz at best to someone intentionally using covert racial stereotypes at worst
@@user-fq8rs7rz3iYou can’t say Garcelle is wrong. That’s the way she feels, and Dorit using certain words toward others, especially to someone of a different race, shows how culturally ignorant she is. When she and Garcelle sat at lunch and spoke about it, Dorit turned around on Garcelle as if she was the victim. She does this all the time, and it's her way of taking less accountability and making it all about her. Dorit has said things in the past that were racially or culturally insensitive and brain-dead. The only one in the wrong was Dorit, for being so self-centered and, once again, turning the situation and playing the victim.
I think garcelle is the first black woman dorit has ever genuinely had to have encounters with and a “friendship” with. She reminds me of the people who are scared of people with pigment. OH NO garcelle spoke , she’s gonna attack!!! Oh no!
What a truly vapid comment!!! Does Garcelle care what words are triggers follow these folks: >>Latinas?? >>Asians?? >>Italians?? (Found out from RHONJ you NEVER call an Italian American male or female a “rat”. As one of the cast said to us, “that is lowest of the low.” To the person that said it, none of the ladies VERBALLY ATTACKED her; they just EXPLAINED! >>Muslim Etcetera Guess what Garcelle-- ALL WOMEN GET MAD ALL WOMEN CAN BE PERCEIVED AS AGGRESSIVE AND ALL WOMEN ARE CAPABLE OF VERBALLY ATTACKING BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN!!! I work in male dominated Engineering and believe me, with your weakness, you wouldn’t last a five minutes. >>> YOU SPENT $14,000 on a fricking Hermes Birken bag
Dorit clearly did not mean it like that. Glad they also understood Garcelle instead of accusing her of saying ooh now you’re using the race card or getting all defensive about it. Love Erika and how poised she is, centered, educated, more aware, and just real. Love Crystal being right in the middle by understanding Garcelle but also acknowledging Dorit and how she handled the situation. It was an awkward af night.
Garcelle is tired of Dorits lack of filter and not being mindful of the things she says. Which is ironic because Dorit is always talking about how wordly she is and how she understands. Dorit is exhausting she reminds me of someone who talks but isn’t really listening to when others are.
They’re all angling for a storyline - incessantly picking apart some previous conversation. Tedious - the audience is just looking at the clothes, makeup, hair, and jewelry.
I feel like the word privilege and how Garcelle presents it, not good. Can we just get down to being human beings.? So sick of the other factors that aren’t really at play but are placed there because they believe or think they are different. On the cuff, black and white they are, but at some point take that out of equation, get to being a human person and stop stirring the pot.
Yeah, but she’s traveled the world to all of the luxurious destinations. That doesn’t mean she’s experienced living as a part of the culture. She just goes around the world to collect shiny trinkets and say she’s been there. You’re expecting too much depth from a shallow person.
Not everything that people say is meant to be ignorant. I think it is a poor mentality to have. I don't know any of these ladies but I am pretty sure Dorit didn't mean it in that way I am black and I didn't get that impression from Dorit and for Garcelle to make it such a big deal is ridiculous to me. And for this woman to say I felt her pain what pain? I am so confused. This is so over the top!
Garcelle is annoying & she started the show lying & playing victim saying that Kyle didn't pay attention to her when she did . Garcelle is lucky & that she's not in the show the Real Housewives Of Atlanta cause Kenya , Porsha , Nene & Marlo would be calling her all kinds of names & she really would have something real to cry about . Garcelle loves playing the victim & she loves playing the race card . 😂
@@lioking4093Kyle did act like she didn't even know how to be a regular person around Garcelle and when Garcelle wanted to go out to lunch with Kyle well then Kyle invites Garcelle to her house and guess who's there, The black guy from E Justin Sylvester because Kyle did not feel comfortable being around Garcelle because she was black !!! The lunch was supposed to be with Kyle and Garcelle only just sit down and get to know each other but Kyle was the one that couldn't do that !!!
I totally understand the ‘attack’ label for Garcelle. BUT I don’t support her, I think she just didn’t like Dorit - and never has. The way she laughed at Dorit and got annoyed that she kept saying her name was so rude. Dorit is clearly not a horrible person.
When Dorit YELLED at Garcelle at the first reunion I don't recall Garcelle saying, "You're attacking me." But now that it's Dorit it's totally different. I don't believe Dorit was aware of how her words are perceived - BUT she also can DISH it and can't TAKE it.
I feel a little insane like...it was pretty obvious she was saying "attack" in the colloquial sense not in the literal sense. Garcelle has every right to feel hurt by the interaction because she and many black women feel unnecessarily stereotyped as angry or aggressive, but to project her associations of the word "attack" onto Dorit and then to say that Dorit is a Karen based on two incidents is a stretch! We also have to stop pretending like insinuating someone is racist is some harmless comment! Calling Dorit a Karen is calling her a racist white woman. It is basically saying she is the worst thing a person can be. It could impact every aspect of her life. All because she used a word that most Americans--yes, most--wouldn't associate with racist undertones. I personally am aware of the fact black women don't like the word "attack" used against them and wouldn't use it myself, but I am also twenty years younger than Dorit and am on the internet wayyyy tooo much. Idk to me this entire situation feels unfair and forced.
Yall are always more worried about the “accusation” of racism than what it feels like to be racially stereotyped or othered or treated differently constantly. You have no concept of what white woman tears have ruined the lives of Black and brown people since the inception of this country. It’s exhausting. I don’t think yall understand how much hate Garcelle gets regularly for just existing as a Black woman in this environment where people don’t think she deserves to be. Dorit says she’s attacking her and I bet the loud and proud racists are in Garcelle’s dms with death threats. Y’all have amnesia about how they went after her kids online because people didn’t think she was being nice to Rinna, Diana and them?
Oh please, it most definitely is not impacting every aspect of her life when the system is built on that same racism. The amount of white people that go on career unharmed, they just get a timeout to look like they are being reprimanded is considerably higher than black people who have their lives fall apart for doing something minuscule or even nothing (just lied against) is clear.
I agree with you. I was kind of turned off when Garcelle called Dorit a Karen tbh. Dorit wasn't saying Garcelle was physically attacking her... Garcelle sometimes use the racecard as a weapon whenever she feels she's losing an argument
You really don't know the weight of that word. Another black person said to me once, it took me by surprise to such extent! We were having an argument, an argument that she started and then she hit me with the "you attacked me ". I was like really?? So when you are losing the argument I "attacked "you? That is word no one wants to be associated with and to black person is carries a different way as this perceived image that we are aggressive. And mind you,this woman was out of her standing in front of me while I remained seated and I attacked her, according to her delulu self. I even apologized to her like ,looks we are having a disagreement and now I attacked you!
Dorit needs to know when it’s time to just apologize, educate herself and keep it pushing while doing better. Dorit is so focused on being the victim that she never sees how she can possibly offend someone else. She is always the victim, that her favorite role to play
Actually the word "Karen" is racist in the way some people use it now. Also there is more then just white and black.... there are loads of ethnicities, religions, cultures out there. Labeling Dorit as simply white and privilaged is silly. Dorit is not always my cup of tea and I like Garcelle but she is being overdramatic here. "Crying" herself to sleep for 2 days over the word "attack", really? Dorit is annoying not racist. The world is beautiful because we are all different, if we make everything about race then we will never be able to openly communicate and integrate with each other.
When Dorit said attack did you notice how she looked for backup from the couch of white woman and nodded her head for them to help? She knew exactly what she was saying and doing. What she didn’t expect was for Erica to back Garcelle. If you never experienced micro aggressions then you won’t get it. It’s upsetting when you can’t defend yourself so yeah it’s enough to make you cry so, stfu yeah it’s triggering
I feel like Garcelle just can’t stand dorit and anything she says or does annoys the hell out of her…and she admitted that…if I can recall…so it’s always a losing scenario for dorit
Sutton was yelling at dorit and garcelle was talking in a calm tone but yet dorit said garcelle was attacking her so yes being accused of attacking her would piss anyone off no matter the race
I believe Dorit. Garcelle said she believes her too so her sincerity in her apology is not missed. But what we’re not going to do is make it seem like Garcelle is over exaggerating or simply playing the “race card” let’s let Dorit’s apology remain sincere by ACCEPTING she was wrong.
Kim has openly stated that the only time she sees Kyle is when there is a camera. Andi and Bravo need to revamp this show because it has become tedious. It lacks the early seasons of riches and opulence we all wanted to see.
I don't think Dorit meant to hurt Garcelle, she's not evil, she's just ignorant. but not evil. I'm still hopeful they would come to a better place...❤❤
No one saying she is evil. She is just closed minded. She grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth. She is very used to a certain people being around her and doesn’t have a lot of minority friends. She just needs to educate herself more. I don’t think she’s racist. I just think she very sheltered.
It sucks that Crystal has an issue of being thin because she is drop dead gorgeous. To me, she's the most beautiful out of this entire group. In general, shes's a beautiful woman.
I wish Denise had the ability to articulate what she's actually thinking and feeling, she comes up short against someone will the skillset of Erika who is an obvious expert at arguments and being combative. It's also unfortunate Denise clearly has inaccurate memories of experiences caught on camera, be it the BBQ or the dinner at Kyle's; however in this situation, I don't think it had anything to do with the threesome conversation, despite it being inappropriate, it was more that Erika's friendship with Rinna influenced her behaviour, intentions, insinuations and demeanour around Denise when there was no reason for her to do so and it hurt Denise. I'm not sure if Erika would have apologised if Denise said this, but at least she could say that she's willing to move on and forward with forgiveness or something like that because it appeared like Erika wanted that.
Exactly. You can tell Erika went back and watched the show but also I'm sure Erika knows how she acted towards Denise when it came ti Rinna and the whole Brandi.
I find it hard with Garcelle because when Crystal and Sutton had their thing, she basically accused Crystal of race baiting when she said "No matter what Sutton said, you were going to say "are you that girl who doesnt see colour". And I feel like now, no matter what Dorit says, Garcelle will say "you're privileged, you're a Karen etc." It feels like a double standard
I’m a white woman and I agree. But even worse is her attempt to control what words Dorit can use, just because she’s white. That’s coercive and against the law where I’m from. Up to this point Garcelle was my fav and I really felt for her because of what happened with her son. I hope she doesn’t continue down this road.
I empathize with Kyle after listening to her and Kim's conversation. Growing up in a home with a verbally and physically abusive (chaotic childhood) mother can create anxiety and PSTD for kids, who someday will be adults with the same types of mental illnesses. I used to warn my sisters not to become what they hated in our mother. One of my sisters emulates my mother's abusive behavior. She yells and screams, and acts a fool in private and public. Kyle is experiencing the same type of abusive behavior from Kathy that their mother exhibited. It may be best for Kyle to keep her distance to protect her peace.
Kyle is no victim. If anything her sisters are a victim of her. Kathy and Kim always get along, it’s Kyle that betrays them and gets cut off not the other way around.
@@ISwimWithSharks13 - Kyle uses people like Lisa to be her voice. Trust that Kyle has some serious issues and the majority is childhood trauma. She does many things that question her character. Kathy is verbally abusive because she emulates her mother's behavior. She is closer to her mother's age than Kim and Kyle. Yelling and screaming don't resolve problems.
Seems like you’re slow. Erica explained it well but you Karens gloss over that and attack the black woman and there is no smoke for Erica at all. Suck on a lemon!
LOL not in this circumstance….if she’s that fragile about the word attack she shouldn’t be on the show. It’s not a race issue…it just suited her to say that in the argument so she could be a victim
So disappointed in Garcelle getting all woke over a silly word. Now you can’t say the word “attack” to a black person? Do black people own the word “attack” or something? The interesting thing is when she calls Dorit on her “privilege”. Funny coming from a wealthy individual wearing a Gucci cardigan. I never expected Garcelle to use the race card. “Educate” lol
No, black people do not own the word "attack" HOWEVER, black women are told they are aggressive when they stand up for themselves. Words matter...they always have it's just now we are speaking up about it and not brushing it under the rug anymore.
@@Glamdeb1167 it’s a word it’s not even an insult, it’s a verb referring to an action, and she’s made it about her victimhood for being black. Stop looking for ways to be offended. We’re all equal. I don’t like Dorit but I am with her on this one. “I feel as though you’re attacking me” is offensive now? 🤦♂️ give me a break.
@frodo322 We're definitely not ALL EQUAL. It would be wonderful if that was true, but sadly it is not. We can respectfully agree to disagree on this topic. Have a nice weekend.
Garcelle has multiple times shown that she herself has no regard of other than her own personal understanding of racial "microagressions". Let me just name a few. She accused Crystal on multiple occasions of being quiet and not speaking up more. To Asians that is infact pathologizing cultural values. Crystal has many times tried to explain that that is how she was brought up. The other girls have said the same about Crystal and I'm not defending that. Also Garcelle has multiple times used phrases like "that's some white people shit" and "you people". Again this is also considered microagressions. Look it up. She needs to show some humility and maybe be a little less quick to assume that everyone is a racist when she doesn't want to take accountability of her own words and how they too can be interpreted racist. It's really unbecoming of her and quite frankly not helpful to any discussion. I don't believe we should assume that people are racist because they use a wrong word - especially when they emediately apologize and offer to use a different word. Instead she insist on people being racist cause that gives her the power to end a discussion.
She definitely is the attacker you Karens don’t like being called out for micro aggressions. Certain words stir up racial tropes. There is nothing wrong with Garcelle calling her out.
I think it got edited out but if I’m not mistaken Denise was also bothered by how Erika treated Garcelles son which is why it all got brought up again. She tried to adultify 14 year olds and the. Garcelles son was 14 and Erika tried to adultify him too by saying he’s 16 and Crystal reminded her he’s actually 14 and it doesn’t matter if he’s 16 the fact still stood. LETS BE HONEST erika has more than once been inappropriate regarding kids. Was inappropriate when Eileen made a harmless analogy, inappropriate when Denise made a small request cuz her kids also had friends from school at her house, and inappropriate with Garcelles son. 3 strikes.
It is amazing how people are rushing to protect dorit and speak on what dorit means and what is in Dorit’s heart and blah blah blah. Dorit doesn't need a bodyguard or to be recused. She is a grown woman she needs to take the lesson and and be more aware of the things that come out of her mouth.
Not every “Black” woman finds the word “attack” offensive…. Especially when they are sure and confident in themselves and don’t adopt stereotypes as truths. 💯💯
Kyle, you love your fame you love your money and from what I’ve seen for the past how ever many years you’ve been on this show, you LOVE drama, unless it’s your own. Getting a taste of your own medicine now. Own it just own it! 😂
This is ridiculous. All this bs over the word “attacked”. Garcelle can feel however she wants about the word. But if she gets to project her feelings of the context of the word, Dorit can also project how her context of the word was completely different. People need to get a thicker skin and stop being so eager to jump on a victim bandwagon
Kyle and these second hand pageant dresses. They all are way too low cut. Not classy. Sutton has such style! Erica and Kyle as a duo seems forced. Not genuine at all.
Thank you crystal for not dismissing Garcelle's feelings and experiences like alot of these weirdo fans. Ive been in the situation at work and even with my non black cousins where they use words like that to describe you when they wouldnt use for someone who looked like themselves. Or even when i started a new job and any time I did something great my boss would say "you're so gangster" or greet me as "yo" , when someone else he would say "you rocked it" or "great job" you crushed it" its little things like that white ppl have no idea they are saying out of taught and learned biased. That's what white privilege is.. not even being able to see this things when others feel and are treated different bc of their race and ethnicity alone. I guess that's why they have a hard time when ppl bring it up bc it challenges everything they were raised to believe.. even the lies.
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That’s true but she lives in a big city ..she should have a clue ? All that aside it’s difficult when you try to tell your non ethnic friends that certain things don’t sound so good because they immediately think your calling them racist say all the black people they know and your just trying to explain why as a black man saying in aggressive in a room full of non black people puts me in a bad situation..but it’s a conversation that as I’m older I realize I must say to my friends if I love them so they don’t say it to the wrong person
@@KB32000 Well done! And you seem kind and understanding!
@@KB32000 I agree and that is very kind and insightful of you...however, "You do realize that I'm Jewish," didn't rate comment or even consideration with Garcelle. Guess Garcelle thinks her maginalized ethnic group is more important than Dorits?
“The bulgogi was great!” Lol Kim trying to break the tension was cute
😂😂
Hahaha😂
That was my favorite part! 😂
I think all women named Kim are awesome, literally every Kim I’ve ever met has been funny and charming!! 😂
It sounded like she said Bukkake
I wish Crystal could see how gorgeous and healthy she looks. She is literally flawless. The fact that she sometimes struggles to be present because she’s focusing on how thin others are. I want her to own her beauty more
She’s really drop dead gorgeous on this clip!
It's so sad that she doesn't realise that she has the most beautiful face and beautiful body out of everyone there
Agree! For me, Crystal is the most beautiful out of the entire group. In general, she's a beautiful woman.
Crystal Is beautiful. Please do not lose any weight. You look freakin amazing.
Yes I think crystal is the most attractive out of all of them and I luv how she dresses, she never shows alot of skin yet looks stunning.
To think 14 year olds are having threesomes is very disturbing. And I don’t think it’s a good look. Obviously everyone knows teenagers are curious but that specific comment was too much.
Remember her dad's kids father is Charlie Sheen.But yet there are 14 year Olds pregnant.
No, they have phones. If they have any question/answer, it's at their fingertips.
@@ButWait40108 So that automatically means she is having threesomes as a kid!! Ridiculous
The comment was disgusting and Erica stood 10 toes down with it
Erika and Rinna were to much.
Chrystal telling Dorit to sit and listen is everything!
Shocking. Crystal is the one who called racism on Sutton and then couldn’t explain why. She made a mockery out of a serious issue to create a storyline for herself. She’s so disingenuous.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Well, they've mended fences. So, that particular situation is a moot point to bring up
@@davonfryar-frazier435 I won’t forget that and neither will anyone else.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i shhh
@@davonfryar-frazier435 No, I won’t. Crystal did it, and it was disgraceful.
If Kyle doesn't like the public knowing her business she should get off reality TV. So tired of her victim narrative.
Did you not see Kyle made a movie about her mother as a tribute Kathy wasn't consulted since whatever reason had blocked Kyle .Kyle covered Kim's drinking for years until she exposed her. Rinna own sister abused drugs and alcohol committed suicide she watched Kim display what she ignored in her sister. Kim loved playing victim created chaos expecting others to pick up her mess. I am glad she admitted and is dealing with her addiction. Kathy escaped married into wealth chased almighty dollars ignored Paris pain locked her away in an abusive re education program that later was exposed as cruel and abusive but Kathy still refuses to admit she was wrong. Sorry rant is long. Search for individual storyline aren't bringing out the best.
Agree, don't go on a reality TV series with your family, then years later claim victimhood because everything is out there for people to judge. Fame or family? Which one matters most at the end of the day?
How as she played the victim?
Absolutely
She should also get off of people and their public business
So funny when Dorit says to Crystal:
‘are you asleep when you’re around us?’
Crystal pauses because she’s thinking about her successful water company she owns and operates.
😂❤
Give me Dorit any day, at least what you see is what you get.
I can’t believe this never comes up but a couple of reunions ago Dorit screamed at Garcelle like she never ever would to any other women. I think that Garcelle is totally justified with how she’s feeling about Dorit. And Dorit trying to say she can’t be racist because she’s Jewish is the dumbest thing ever!
Yeah but Garcelle telling Dorit she can't use certain words cause of the colour of her skin makes Garcelle the racist.
@@bebetee3620 black people Cant be racist racism was literally invented to oppress them but good job showing you know nothing about power dynamics or history! :)
@@bebetee3620exactly she’s doesn’t need to be educated honestly all 3 of them need to go! They’re fkn boring and so GD annoying! Andy I know you can find 3 more housewives. Ya better leave Erika, Dorit, and Kyle! Get the fuck rid of the rest! We’re the viewers and I promise I know a lot and we won’t watch 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
STFU Garcelle needs to go! Go watch her on the movie Flight lmaooooooo
I’m not watching and if you have them on there we won’t watch
I am no expert , I feel Kathy was the most upset with Kyle because it seemed like Kyle took her friends side more then Kathys .. We saw them try take Kathy down on TV and it feels like Kyle didn´t stand up for her sister enough on the show or at the reunion .. because if those were my friends doing that to my sister .. The friendship is over .. but what do I know ..
Yup!!!
After watching Paris in love it seems like Kathy is that way with everyone. If they don’t take her side or try to talk any type of way that doesn’t agree with what she’s saying she will cut them off or worse. I think she’s lived in such a bubble she doesn’t even realize how she is now. Even Paris is walking on eggshells around her.
Oh for sure, my sister and I are not close and she did a lot of stuff wrong BUT NO ONE, NOT even a boyfriend of mine, can shittalk my sister, I will not have it, it is not their place and I ALWAYS stand up for her
Kathy threatened to put Kyle completely out of work and destroy her family, so why the hell would Kyle then have her back? Make it make sense. Kyle smartly allowed Kathy to be exposed so she doesn't look like the bad person having to go after her. Kathy is a monster.
Kyle never defends her sisters. Check out what she did to Kim in the first season/last episode. It was terrible.
Kyle really likes to play the victim. She immediately decides to shut Kim up when she is asked for her part in the fight with Kathy… Kyle is incredibly rude, and no one will change my mind, not even Bravo.
I 💯 agree with you. Kyle USES her sisters.
Denise failed the mission twice erika ate her up 😂
I know, shame. I can’t stand Erika.
The fact that Dorit said Garcelle had a strong reaction means she still doesnt understand what Garcelle was saying.🤦🏾♀🤔😒🤨
says alot about dorit she act like she been a planet with just her own race to be honest
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 Yeah ok, she is not a racist Dorit just shows her microaggressions towards Garcelle. And doesn't understand what she is doing, but yet a racist like you would think was she did was ok and that Garcelle is a racist.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 lol
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 that’s not how racism works lol books exist beloved! :)
Garcelle didn’t explain why the word ‘attacked’ offended her. I wish someone would explain to me too, cos I don’t get it. And I’m not a fan of controlling someone’s speech at any time. Someone explain.
This was the FIRST time I could really feel the love between the Richard's sisters. It's clear Kim has really worked on herself; she truly seems better these days.
I hope Kyle finds some peace and Middle ground with Kathy, but I fear Kathy is far too insulated and guarded to ever take responsibility for her part in this.
Kyle should've handled the attack from Rinna on Kim much better. What Kyle did was inappropriate. However, Kathy publicly ranting, going on a diatribe where she is threatening to come after Kyle and her family is unfathomable. If I were Kyle, I would stay as far away from as possible from Kathy as I could. Even if Kathy plays nice, deep down she will be seething with anger, which Kyle knows. Kathy needed to get exposed at that reunion, and it had to come from anyone but Kyle in order for the words to have an impact. Do not forget that Kathy has been publicly exposed by Paris for being a spiteful, mean, indifferent, hateful woman. I think Paris can't stand Kathy but both know the importance of playing nice for Hollywood @goodvibes4days397.
@@texan903I sort of disagree. it’s obvious Paris loves her mother very much, I mean they had a whole reality show together recently but I do think it’s interesting how Kathy decided to play the media game after Paris’s documentary came out, by portraying herself as this kooky old lady in season 11 of RHOBH to try to “rehab” her image after she came across terribly on Paris’s documentary.
Like I’m sure it was awkward for a bit and Paris, who’s always been incredibly media savy (and inherentes it from her mother and grandmother) probably saw right through Kathy’s act and just had to deal with it and film with her for Paris In Love.
I’m sure it’s a complicated relationship, like most families (especially the Richards/hilton one sheesh) but it seems Paris is still ride or die for her parents regardless of their past negligence towards her, given how she clapped back at Mauricio’s claim about Paris’s Dad.
@stxrstrxckmxteo515 Paris is an intelligent, savvy businesswoman. She knew the ramifications her documentary would bring Kathy. That's why Kathy was on a media blitz to try stopping the runaway train. She still wants projects in Hollywood. She is also clever, as you noted, in keeping relations cordial enough to do business, which is why she had to humble herself with Kyle after being exposed at the reunion by Rinna. Kathy has taken some serious hits the last couple of years, but she never shied away from the press and carried on to salvage her image.
"She had a very strong reaction to it." 🙄 Even that is tone policing!
Exactly!!! Like Garcelles reaction was not a “very strong reaction” I literally can’t stand Dorit!
Wow why over analyze the most meaningless shit there r enough problems in the word. Pretty sure only Americans have these issues with WORDs so ridiculous
Funny how “strong” Erika agrees with everything Kyle says, even though you can tell she thinks Kyle is full of bullshit 😆 I guess she is just trying to keep her job.
😂
@@ISwimWithSharks13Probably. Doritos days are numbered.
Facts
Erika has never been strong. She’s morally bankrupt and she knows it.
Barbies grandma is not happy at the moment and is on her best behaviour. But I suppose losing a court case will do that to you.
Dorrit is starting to get on the group's nerves a little..personal opinion
I agree lol she’s defo the least favorite of the bunch
Honestly if she’s still here next season her storyline will be her and PK getting a divorce, because she has nothing else going on for her. She’s too much of a follower for anyone to really care or like her anymore
Garcelle is annoying & she started the show lying & playing victim saying that Kyle didn't pay attention to her when she did . Garcelle is lucky & that she's not in the show the Real Housewives Of Atlanta cause Kenya , Porsha , Nene & Marlo would be calling her all kinds of names & she really would have something real to cry about . Garcelle loves playing the victim & she loves playing the race card . 😂
Oh that's interesting! Kyle distanced herself from her, Erika put a jab at her ignorance on taco Tuesday, Sutton and Crystal are tepid with her and clearly Garcelle and her are not seeing eye to eye.
@@lioking4093garcelle is a whole career actor been in the industry for 35 years,, meanwhile dorit is a con woman who is in the middle of huge bankruptcy and scam scandal so who is the looser now lmao
Dorit is annoying but I don’t believe she meant it like thaaaaat
💯💯💯
But that is the issue. She needs to understand what weight her words cary
The word attack is NOT crazy.
Bs
@@Faridapows this is housewives. I have heard worst.
To everyone who doesn't get it: garcelle wasnt attacking dorit and was the calmest one in that whole conversation, yet dorit decided that garcelle was attacking her despite her calm tone compared to everyone else. That indicates a bias. Its called subconscious bias for a reason. Was garcelle critizing her? Yes. But she was doing it more calmly than anyone else in that room, yet somehow shes the one thats attacking
Folks don't want to understand that's the problem.
The only one with Bias is Garcelle. Everyone knows when someone says "attack" in this situation they mean criticizing. Garcelle is the one with privledge for thinking she can dictate how others speak bc she is black. Stay home if your that fragile and cant have a convo with adults without pulling the race card when your about to lose the argument. Garcelle pulled this same crap when confronted by Kyle for stiffing her charity.
I agree 👍💯 it's crazy how people cannot see this knowing good and well Dorit does have microagressions and different standards for Garcelle based upon the color of her skin.
It's just true, Dorit can change that with honesty, but if she keeps acting brand new like she doesn't understand then it won't change.
And Dorit still doesn’t understand. Smh. People choose to have a blind eye
Dorit has said that to loads of the woman throughout the years so she probably didn’t get the new list of words that change on a daily basis that she can’t say. I mean, apparently it’s no one’s job to educate her so I guess she’ll just need to somehow magically know. Garcelle insinuated that Dorit was lying about being robbed. If Dorit insinuated that about Garcelle… that would be racist. That’s not right! And wish everyone would stop pretending that’s ok because it’s not ok. Loads of people know it’s not ok and they’re too scared to say it
Kyle, what’s really more important to you? The show or your relationship w/your family? Once, you honestly come to grips w/the answer you’ll finally be a happier person. And, you won’t need to find a rock to crawl under.😇
Thats what Ive been saying about this show! You have to sell your soul! They’d all rather be famous and they will use their family members to that aim. And Look at Lisa Rinna…does she even have friends anymore cause of this show! One day the show will end and you will have no relationship with family or friends anymore
@o8byrner08There are myriad jobs. She chooses this one, which puts her and her family under public scrutiny for great compensation. Her feigning victimization as a result of her CHOICE to be on a "reality" TV show for $$$ is disingenuous and tiring. Get tf off TV if it's hurting you so badly. Tf.
I just love Garcel and Sutton friendship
The black and white privilege is just dumb. Garcelle keeps pushing this
Exactly! As a woman of color I’m not buying into this forced narrative
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Oh Kyle! Please. U signed up to do a Reality Show!! U signed up for this!! So u can’t Now say you don’t know how ur life got “so public”. Quit the show if u don’t want the attention. Don’t stay on next year🤷♀️just saying.
If only! And she should take Erika with her.
Erika was so wrong for saying that about someone else kids. She lost her marbles when someone enquired about her son.
It's public information that Sami is on only fans.. She does it for a living so?? What's that problem
@sof34 And its public info that her son is a cop but the mere mention of that sent her into a psychotic episode. So either kids are off the table or they aren't. If they aren't, then let's talk about how her cop son feels about having a criminal step-father and potentially mother..
She was throwing it in Denise's face, insinuating Denise should be ashamed.@@sof34
@@mmmmee8 i didn't defend Erika's reaction to her kid being brought up. And being a police officer has nothing to do with being on only fans?? There's not exactly a risk of being injured or shot when posing on only fans. But go ahead. And Denise has been talking about Sami and herself in the media. Erica has been keeping her son private because of the nature of his line of work. If you can't separate those two things I feel sorry for you.
YEP! And her son was 27 at the time
Garcelle calling Dorit a "Karen" was a bit much .
Dorito was looking at Crystal with the side eye lol 😂
Crystal looks so good in this, makeup is spot on, face is stunning, so pretty. Dorit still doesn't get it, never will because her mum's BFF is black, hello.
What does that mean?
Stop cutting off Crystal Minkoff scenes! We can see what you're doing, Bravo!
Here we go again with Garcelle and the feckin race card, give it a rest ffs
Garcelle needs to calm down with her sensitivities❤🎉
Crystal is great she is really smart and opening up. I love Garcelle too she is super smart and tells it like it is. I felt bad for Garcelle getting upset from the comment from Dorit. Hopefully Dorit wakes up ❤
I agree with you 100%.
I don’t agree at all. You’re defending G&C but poking at the white women. Racist much?
I feel Crystal should feel vindicated. She spent the last two seasons complaining about how other girls were absolutely tone-deaf regarding race. And everyone started telling her how she should feel about. Guess what, now is Garcelle coming with the same story. Some girls, instead of policing Crystal's feelings, should have done some homework. And now, maybe, we wouldn't find ourselves here ONE MORE TIME.
And even when she mentioned it again Dorit tried to cut her off to defend herself. She really doesn't care. They completely dismissed Crystal.
Yet Crystal spent two seasons race-baiting Sutton, trying to create a narrative that's she's a racist. Remember her getting called out for it at the reunion by everybody, including Andy? She straight up lied.
I am not a fan of Dorit whatsoever but to how is she supposed to know how Garcelle defines the word "attacked". That is complete BS.
Get out of a bubble. I mean everyone knows what a “ Karen” is…
Agree
Dorit has been literally screamed at by most of the women in this cast and she hasn’t described their behavior as “attacking” when it occurs. Yet, when garcelle makes a call observation about her Dorito feels “attacked”.
This is the 3rd time on camera that Dorito has used microagressions towards garcelle to paint her under the “angry black woman” stereotype by labeling her a bully and aggressive in similar situations when garcelle is calling her out. I can only imagine what doesn’t make it on screen.
Combine this with Doritos comments where she says she can’t be racist cuz all her house help have been minorities and her mom was friends with a black lady and the signs point to Dorito being a clueless stereotyping ditz at best to someone intentionally using covert racial stereotypes at worst
@@LP-ct9nk BS. Dorit has used that word many times. Garcelle was wrong this time.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3iYou can’t say Garcelle is wrong. That’s the way she feels, and Dorit using certain words toward others, especially to someone of a different race, shows how culturally ignorant she is. When she and Garcelle sat at lunch and spoke about it, Dorit turned around on Garcelle as if she was the victim. She does this all the time, and it's her way of taking less accountability and making it all about her. Dorit has said things in the past that were racially or culturally insensitive and brain-dead. The only one in the wrong was Dorit, for being so self-centered and, once again, turning the situation and playing the victim.
Garcelle ur overdoing the poor blk woman card calm down. oh no! Did I trigger u by telling u to calm down??🥺🙄
COME ON GARCELLE GIVE US A BREACK....PRIVILEGE...🫣🤦♀️🤦♀️🥴🥴🥴🥴
I think garcelle is the first black woman dorit has ever genuinely had to have encounters with and a “friendship” with. She reminds me of the people who are scared of people with pigment. OH NO garcelle spoke , she’s gonna attack!!! Oh no!
U mean besides The Help? She also has Mexican and Filipino help (aka raising her children)
What a truly vapid comment!!!
Does Garcelle care what words are triggers follow these folks:
>>Latinas??
>>Asians??
>>Italians?? (Found out from RHONJ you NEVER call an Italian American male or female a “rat”. As one of the cast said to us, “that is lowest of the low.” To the person that said it, none of the ladies VERBALLY ATTACKED her; they just EXPLAINED!
>>Muslim
Etcetera
Guess what Garcelle--
ALL WOMEN GET MAD
ALL WOMEN CAN BE PERCEIVED AS AGGRESSIVE
AND ALL WOMEN ARE CAPABLE OF VERBALLY ATTACKING
BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN!!!
I work in male dominated Engineering and believe me, with your weakness, you wouldn’t last a five minutes.
>>> YOU SPENT $14,000 on a fricking Hermes Birken bag
Tht is so through. I think she is racist behind close doors and she cant help it
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 oh pls stfu you sound loud white and wrong
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559you sound dumb.
Dorit clearly did not mean it like that. Glad they also understood Garcelle instead of accusing her of saying ooh now you’re using the race card or getting all defensive about it. Love Erika and how poised she is, centered, educated, more aware, and just real. Love Crystal being right in the middle by understanding Garcelle but also acknowledging Dorit and how she handled the situation. It was an awkward af night.
crystal looks snatched up right here
Garcelle is tired of Dorits lack of filter and not being mindful of the things she says. Which is ironic because Dorit is always talking about how wordly she is and how she understands. Dorit is exhausting she reminds me of someone who talks but isn’t really listening to when others are.
Give me a break. Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards are Sami's parents.
Kyle shutting down any conversation where she may not be the victim
They’re all angling for a storyline - incessantly picking apart some previous conversation. Tedious - the audience is just looking at the clothes, makeup, hair, and jewelry.
This is the second time dorit has used a offensive word towards garcelle
How is the word attack an offensive work🙃
I meant word
Its only offensive if there is racial intention which there was not. Im Black and this is crazy.
@@BwInNewJersey I am black.I second that. This has nothing to do with race.
I used to really like Garcelle but she is turning into a real hypocrite. If anything, she’s probably the most prejudiced member.
Dump Annemarie and Dorit already
Dorit is insufferable 😩 so is her fake face and fake accent and fake money. Everything’s fake. She’s a fraud…. And a very annoying one!
Please!
Why cause Dorit treated Garcelle without thinking about the colour of her skin? Odd.
I disagree… Dump Garcelle, and take direct to a BLM ✊🏾 movement… So much angry on that woman.. Unbelievable it … She will be more helpful 😃
@@gabrielaarrieta5890 racist comment
The way Dorit starts to get defensive with Crystal here. My god.
Yes, Dorit is horrible
I feel like the word privilege and how Garcelle presents it, not good. Can we just get down to being human beings.? So sick of the other factors that aren’t really at play but are placed there because they believe or think they are different. On the cuff, black and white they are, but at some point take that out of equation, get to being a human person and stop stirring the pot.
I think Dorit knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s traveled the world speak several languages but she is culturally incompetent.
Yeah, but she’s traveled the world to all of the luxurious destinations. That doesn’t mean she’s experienced living as a part of the culture. She just goes around the world to collect shiny trinkets and say she’s been there. You’re expecting too much depth from a shallow person.
@@toddmoreyjr5028😂😂😂 love it.
You really dislike Dorit, don’t you?
Bizarre when someone wants to be treated differently but then doesn’t want to be treated differently!?!
Snakes eating their own tales!
Garcelle has insinuated that Dorit’s robbery was fake multiple times. She is such a hypocrite.
Dorit just waits to talk she’s never listening…..
Not everything that people say is meant to be ignorant. I think it is a poor mentality to have. I don't know any of these ladies but I am pretty sure Dorit didn't mean it in that way I am black and I didn't get that impression from Dorit and for Garcelle to make it such a big deal is ridiculous to me. And for this woman to say I felt her pain what pain? I am so confused. This is so over the top!
Dorit has done it several times called her a bully screamed at her at the reunion told her to get over her feelings it’s a build up
Why didn’t Dorit say Sutton was aggressive? … Sutton actually yelled at her.
Garcelle is annoying & she started the show lying & playing victim saying that Kyle didn't pay attention to her when she did . Garcelle is lucky & that she's not in the show the Real Housewives Of Atlanta cause Kenya , Porsha , Nene & Marlo would be calling her all kinds of names & she really would have something real to cry about . Garcelle loves playing the victim & she loves playing the race card . 😂
Obliviously it's your first season. Dorit had done that mess too many times
@@lioking4093Kyle did act like she didn't even know how to be a regular person around Garcelle and when Garcelle wanted to go out to lunch with Kyle well then Kyle invites Garcelle to her house and guess who's there, The black guy from E Justin Sylvester because Kyle did not feel comfortable being around Garcelle because she was black !!! The lunch was supposed to be with Kyle and Garcelle only just sit down and get to know each other but Kyle was the one that couldn't do that !!!
Garcelle pulled out the race card because she has no storyline. 😑
Garcelle doesn’t need a storyline to be relevant unlike some of the other housewives…
What storyline does Dorit have? I’ll wait…
@@Theweirdcousin Well, technically she does for the show that she's on...
@@Imeaniguess25 her whole robbery, PTSD, crumbling marriage thing. Garcelle literally has zero storyline right now. And she's stirring things up now
I totally understand the ‘attack’ label for Garcelle. BUT I don’t support her, I think she just didn’t like Dorit - and never has.
The way she laughed at Dorit and got annoyed that she kept saying her name was so rude.
Dorit is clearly not a horrible person.
When Dorit YELLED at Garcelle at the first reunion I don't recall Garcelle saying, "You're attacking me." But now that it's Dorit it's totally different. I don't believe Dorit was aware of how her words are perceived - BUT she also can DISH it and can't TAKE it.
Dorit is clearly a narcissist.
@@Glamdeb1167Exactly right.
I feel a little insane like...it was pretty obvious she was saying "attack" in the colloquial sense not in the literal sense. Garcelle has every right to feel hurt by the interaction because she and many black women feel unnecessarily stereotyped as angry or aggressive, but to project her associations of the word "attack" onto Dorit and then to say that Dorit is a Karen based on two incidents is a stretch! We also have to stop pretending like insinuating someone is racist is some harmless comment! Calling Dorit a Karen is calling her a racist white woman. It is basically saying she is the worst thing a person can be. It could impact every aspect of her life. All because she used a word that most Americans--yes, most--wouldn't associate with racist undertones. I personally am aware of the fact black women don't like the word "attack" used against them and wouldn't use it myself, but I am also twenty years younger than Dorit and am on the internet wayyyy tooo much. Idk to me this entire situation feels unfair and forced.
Yall are always more worried about the “accusation” of racism than what it feels like to be racially stereotyped or othered or treated differently constantly. You have no concept of what white woman tears have ruined the lives of Black and brown people since the inception of this country. It’s exhausting. I don’t think yall understand how much hate Garcelle gets regularly for just existing as a Black woman in this environment where people don’t think she deserves to be. Dorit says she’s attacking her and I bet the loud and proud racists are in Garcelle’s dms with death threats. Y’all have amnesia about how they went after her kids online because people didn’t think she was being nice to Rinna, Diana and them?
Oh please, it most definitely is not impacting every aspect of her life when the system is built on that same racism. The amount of white people that go on career unharmed, they just get a timeout to look like they are being reprimanded is considerably higher than black people who have their lives fall apart for doing something minuscule or even nothing (just lied against) is clear.
I agree with you. I was kind of turned off when Garcelle called Dorit a Karen tbh. Dorit wasn't saying Garcelle was physically attacking her... Garcelle sometimes use the racecard as a weapon whenever she feels she's losing an argument
@@valentino4411 Wow. Ignorance must be bliss
You really don't know the weight of that word. Another black person said to me once, it took me by surprise to such extent! We were having an argument, an argument that she started and then she hit me with the "you attacked me ". I was like really?? So when you are losing the argument I "attacked "you? That is word no one wants to be associated with and to black person is carries a different way as this perceived image that we are aggressive. And mind you,this woman was out of her standing in front of me while I remained seated and I attacked her, according to her delulu self. I even apologized to her like ,looks we are having a disagreement and now I attacked you!
Dorit needs to know when it’s time to just apologize, educate herself and keep it pushing while doing better.
Dorit is so focused on being the victim that she never sees how she can possibly offend someone else. She is always the victim, that her favorite role to play
Sounds like you’re describing garcelle. And crystal. Dorit isn’t required to walk on eggshells for her weak-minded cast mates.
Seriously tho, Garcelle and Crystal spend half the time forcing people to apologize for offending them it's exhausting. @@user-xu4yi1dl4g
@@user-xu4yi1dl4gwatch your words, just be aware.. that’s all we are asking..
Who do you think you are? Controlling much?
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Do you feel controlled love?
Garcelle is a race baiter. She and Crystal need to be off the show. They are so reckless.
The wokeness is so aggressive and people pick and choose who to use it on.
Their behavior is dangerous in our climate of woke BS.@@tula1433
You are a Karen
And you are a Jim Crow era segregationist. Are we even?@@Roques-rage1706
@@tula1433people who use the word wholeness have the IQ or a snail
It makes no sense to anyone outside the US.
Actually the word "Karen" is racist in the way some people use it now. Also there is more then just white and black.... there are loads of ethnicities, religions, cultures out there. Labeling Dorit as simply white and privilaged is silly. Dorit is not always my cup of tea and I like Garcelle but she is being overdramatic here. "Crying" herself to sleep for 2 days over the word "attack", really?
Dorit is annoying not racist.
The world is beautiful because we are all different, if we make everything about race then we will never be able to openly communicate and integrate with each other.
When Dorit said attack did you notice how she looked for backup from the couch of white woman and nodded her head for them to help? She knew exactly what she was saying and doing. What she didn’t expect was for Erica to back Garcelle. If you never experienced micro aggressions then you won’t get it. It’s upsetting when you can’t defend yourself so yeah it’s enough to make you cry so, stfu yeah it’s triggering
@@JuiceJ443 You completely missed the point. But whatever...next 😉
Oh God I just lost brain cells reading this
@@OkgirlllllYou can't lose, what you never had.
@@Okgirlllll So go back to school... get back to me when you can speak 5 languages 😉.
I feel like Garcelle just can’t stand dorit and anything she says or does annoys the hell out of her…and she admitted that…if I can recall…so it’s always a losing scenario for dorit
Can you blame her? Dorit has been micro aggressive towarda Garcelle since she came on the show.
EXACTLY, totally agree
I have agreed with all three comments and I cannot blame garcelle for having enough of Dorit and her b******* !!!
They are crazy! I use to watch this show but I can’t anymore!
Offended by " attacked "??!! 🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄
Sutton was yelling at dorit and garcelle was talking in a calm tone but yet dorit said garcelle was attacking her so yes being accused of attacking her would piss anyone off no matter the race
I believe Dorit. Garcelle said she believes her too so her sincerity in her apology is not missed. But what we’re not going to do is make it seem like Garcelle is over exaggerating or simply playing the “race card” let’s let Dorit’s apology remain sincere by ACCEPTING she was wrong.
Kim has openly stated that the only time she sees Kyle is when there is a camera. Andi and Bravo need to revamp this show because it has become tedious. It lacks the early seasons of riches and opulence we all wanted to see.
I don't think Dorit meant to hurt Garcelle, she's not evil, she's just ignorant. but not evil. I'm still hopeful they would come to a better place...❤❤
No one saying she is evil. She is just closed minded. She grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth. She is very used to a certain people being around her and doesn’t have a lot of minority friends. She just needs to educate herself more. I don’t think she’s racist. I just think she very sheltered.
It sucks that Crystal has an issue of being thin because she is drop dead gorgeous. To me, she's the most beautiful out of this entire group. In general, shes's a beautiful woman.
I can imagine how traumatic it is to see her cast mates dropping weight like crazy. You can see her space out at times.
It’s a horrible disease
Dorit just go away!
I do think in this instance Garcelle is reaching. She does not like Dorit and would use anything to justify it.
100%
I wish Denise had the ability to articulate what she's actually thinking and feeling, she comes up short against someone will the skillset of Erika who is an obvious expert at arguments and being combative. It's also unfortunate Denise clearly has inaccurate memories of experiences caught on camera, be it the BBQ or the dinner at Kyle's; however in this situation, I don't think it had anything to do with the threesome conversation, despite it being inappropriate, it was more that Erika's friendship with Rinna influenced her behaviour, intentions, insinuations and demeanour around Denise when there was no reason for her to do so and it hurt Denise. I'm not sure if Erika would have apologised if Denise said this, but at least she could say that she's willing to move on and forward with forgiveness or something like that because it appeared like Erika wanted that.
Exactly. You can tell Erika went back and watched the show but also I'm sure Erika knows how she acted towards Denise when it came ti Rinna and the whole Brandi.
I think Garcelle and Sutton need to leave and they will just like Crystal BYEEEEE
I’m so tired of dorit acting like she don’t know what she’s doing 🙄😒 girl bye ✌🏽
Very this, Camilla (sp) called her out on this in Season 9, saying, that everyone is entitled to be stupid but Dorit really abuses the privilege…
@@Shestheman013 thank you 🙏🏽
Exactly, chile boo 👋🏾
Folks with sense see thru it. Like Garcelle is finally getting tired of her bs. It took her way too long to speak up, but glad she finally did.
I LOVE Dorit, Garcelle just doesn’t like Dorit 🤷♀️ It’s clear to see, Dorit just bothers the fck out of Garcelle
Garcelle then why were you at the table talking about it with her kids around?
I find it hard with Garcelle because when Crystal and Sutton had their thing, she basically accused Crystal of race baiting when she said "No matter what Sutton said, you were going to say "are you that girl who doesnt see colour". And I feel like now, no matter what Dorit says, Garcelle will say "you're privileged, you're a Karen etc." It feels like a double standard
This is so true.
Im a black women…But Garcelle dragged this one and def played the race card.
Pink demons dealt the cards. Delusional.
I’m a white woman and I agree. But even worse is her attempt to control what words Dorit can use, just because she’s white. That’s coercive and against the law where I’m from. Up to this point Garcelle was my fav and I really felt for her because of what happened with her son. I hope she doesn’t continue down this road.
2 Karen's smh
@@Roques-rage1706 who are you referring to y’all talking?🤔
@@Nikki-kh8tt you and the other Karen
The fact Dorit said g had strong reaction, girl bye u havent learn a thing.
I empathize with Kyle after listening to her and Kim's conversation. Growing up in a home with a verbally and physically abusive (chaotic childhood) mother can create anxiety and PSTD for kids, who someday will be adults with the same types of mental illnesses.
I used to warn my sisters not to become what they hated in our mother. One of my sisters emulates my mother's abusive behavior. She yells and screams, and acts a fool in private and public. Kyle is experiencing the same type of abusive behavior from Kathy that their mother exhibited. It may be best for Kyle to keep her distance to protect her peace.
Kyle gets a lot of heat from Kathy's fans. Poor Kyle. People love to hate her.
Agree 💯💯💯💯
Kyle is no victim. If anything her sisters are a victim of her. Kathy and Kim always get along, it’s Kyle that betrays them and gets cut off not the other way around.
@@user-zh8gd3gd6ualways trying to steal her sisters' shine...just silly 🙄
@@ISwimWithSharks13 - Kyle uses people like Lisa to be her voice. Trust that Kyle has some serious issues and the majority is childhood trauma. She does many things that question her character. Kathy is verbally abusive because she emulates her mother's behavior. She is closer to her mother's age than Kim and Kyle. Yelling and screaming don't resolve problems.
Can Garcelle use the words anger, aggressive, & attack towards the other castmates? Seems like a double standard.
🤣🤣🤣 Yes, she uses the privilege of being black. 😄 That’s ehat gives her the fredom.
Seems like you’re slow. Erica explained it well but you Karens gloss over that and attack the black woman and there is no smoke for Erica at all. Suck on a lemon!
I’m really tired of Garcelle. Like…Girl, your bff is (I don’t see color) Sutton Stracke! Miss me with the BS
U always never see colour...until you see colour...when it's time to use your privilege
Girl how about you miss the stop light and walk into traffic
@@Newtoo10 no thank you!😊
Garcelle , that’s ridiculous.
Damnit Crystal. I was just starting to like you and then you have to bring up “violated” again…
Garcelle you've been educating everybody since you got on this show
Well it ain’t working for Dorit 🥴🤣🤣🤣
Garcelle is soooo annoying
What makes her annoying? @janneschndorf1605
She just giving an other perspectiv; this is interesting to me. Is learning so hard?@@janneschndorf1605
LOL not in this circumstance….if she’s that fragile about the word attack she shouldn’t be on the show. It’s not a race issue…it just suited her to say that in the argument so she could be a victim
So disappointed in Garcelle getting all woke over a silly word. Now you can’t say the word “attack” to a black person? Do black people own the word “attack” or something? The interesting thing is when she calls Dorit on her “privilege”. Funny coming from a wealthy individual wearing a Gucci cardigan. I never expected Garcelle to use the race card. “Educate” lol
she is the most conceited condescending a hole on this show.
No, black people do not own the word "attack" HOWEVER, black women are told they are aggressive when they stand up for themselves. Words matter...they always have it's just now we are speaking up about it and not brushing it under the rug anymore.
@deborahwoods3024 black women definitely out of control when they defend themselves.
@@Glamdeb1167 it’s a word it’s not even an insult, it’s a verb referring to an action, and she’s made it about her victimhood for being black. Stop looking for ways to be offended. We’re all equal. I don’t like Dorit but I am with her on this one. “I feel as though you’re attacking me” is offensive now? 🤦♂️ give me a break.
@frodo322 We're definitely not ALL EQUAL. It would be wonderful if that was true, but sadly it is not. We can respectfully agree to disagree on this topic. Have a nice weekend.
Garcelle has multiple times shown that she herself has no regard of other than her own personal understanding of racial "microagressions". Let me just name a few. She accused Crystal on multiple occasions of being quiet and not speaking up more. To Asians that is infact pathologizing cultural values. Crystal has many times tried to explain that that is how she was brought up. The other girls have said the same about Crystal and I'm not defending that. Also Garcelle has multiple times used phrases like "that's some white people shit" and "you people". Again this is also considered microagressions. Look it up. She needs to show some humility and maybe be a little less quick to assume that everyone is a racist when she doesn't want to take accountability of her own words and how they too can be interpreted racist. It's really unbecoming of her and quite frankly not helpful to any discussion. I don't believe we should assume that people are racist because they use a wrong word - especially when they emediately apologize and offer to use a different word. Instead she insist on people being racist cause that gives her the power to end a discussion.
Your comment is unbecoming. Do better in 2024.
Wow that's profound. Do better in 2024.
@@brycelwynnwhy because she proved a point that garcelle is a racist hypocrite?
@@brycelwynn … So do you… I wish you understand in 2024 , that a black person can be a racist towards any other races… You’re welcome ☺️
Garcelle is a bully. I'm Black and I know some people will have her cowering in a corner, she's the racist.
Garcelle was tripping! Period! Whatever her problem is... it's deeper than Dorrit
Crystal is SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL ❤
The '10 minutes earlier' of Garcelle & Sutton 😂
DORIT IS NOT THE ATTACKER!
Garcelle comes for her EVERY chance she gets - even when its completely taken out of the blue!
She definitely is the attacker you Karens don’t like being called out for micro aggressions. Certain words stir up racial tropes. There is nothing wrong with Garcelle calling her out.
No one is more aware of Garcelle's race, than Garcelle.
I think it got edited out but if I’m not mistaken Denise was also bothered by how Erika treated Garcelles son which is why it all got brought up again. She tried to adultify 14 year olds and the. Garcelles son was 14 and Erika tried to adultify him too by saying he’s 16 and Crystal reminded her he’s actually 14 and it doesn’t matter if he’s 16 the fact still stood. LETS BE HONEST erika has more than once been inappropriate regarding kids. Was inappropriate when Eileen made a harmless analogy, inappropriate when Denise made a small request cuz her kids also had friends from school at her house, and inappropriate with Garcelles son. 3 strikes.
Anyone can say"you attacked me" to anyone. Does not mean it is directed towards a race. Get over it Garcelle. Stop overthinking things.
You must be Caucasian🥴🙄
Its called microaggression. Educate yourself
Its called "being over-sensitive in a weak society". Wah, wah, wah.
Garcelle Race Card Beauvais is annoying me right now after being my favourite last season
Denise showed what a liar she is. She did talk about her husband at that table and then lied and said she didn’t. Can we say hypocrite.
So sick of Kyle
It is amazing how people are rushing to protect dorit and speak on what dorit means and what is in Dorit’s heart and blah blah blah. Dorit doesn't need a bodyguard or to be recused. She is a grown woman she needs to take the lesson and and be more aware of the things that come out of her mouth.
But I'm not surprised.
Not every “Black” woman finds the word “attack” offensive…. Especially when they are sure and confident in themselves and don’t adopt stereotypes as truths. 💯💯
Crystal to Dorit … I am giving you your flowers. Code for shut up! 🤣
Crystal jumping on the bandwagon to appear relevant.
I honestly believe that Doritos didn’t mean to offend Garcelle.
Kyle, you love your fame you love your money and from what I’ve seen for the past how ever many years you’ve been on this show, you LOVE drama, unless it’s your own. Getting a taste of your own medicine now. Own it just own it! 😂
This is ridiculous. All this bs over the word “attacked”. Garcelle can feel however she wants about the word. But if she gets to project her feelings of the context of the word, Dorit can also project how her context of the word was completely different. People need to get a thicker skin and stop being so eager to jump on a victim bandwagon
Kyle and these second hand pageant dresses. They all are way too low cut. Not classy. Sutton has such style! Erica and Kyle as a duo seems forced. Not genuine at all.
Dear Bravo - can we leave Dorit is 2023? Please? 🙏
Thank you crystal for not dismissing Garcelle's feelings and experiences like alot of these weirdo fans. Ive been in the situation at work and even with my non black cousins where they use words like that to describe you when they wouldnt use for someone who looked like themselves. Or even when i started a new job and any time I did something great my boss would say "you're so gangster" or greet me as "yo" , when someone else he would say "you rocked it" or "great job" you crushed it" its little things like that white ppl have no idea they are saying out of taught and learned biased. That's what white privilege is.. not even being able to see this things when others feel and are treated different bc of their race and ethnicity alone. I guess that's why they have a hard time when ppl bring it up bc it challenges everything they were raised to believe.. even the lies.
100%
Give it a rest with manufactured offence. It’s stale and disingenuous.