The Differences Between a Cheap and Expensive Banjo

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  • @MasonCroneMusic
    @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

    The short I mentioned... ua-cam.com/users/shortsRUFp8jj4uHM?feature=share

  • @danmurray2210
    @danmurray2210 Рік тому +5

    As the owner of an aluminum "bottle cap" banjo and a "masterclone"-style banjo myself, I can say that there is a HUGE difference in sound between the thin aluminum rim and a wooden rim with a flathead tone ring. The big difference in volume doesn't come across so well in recordings, though, but it's definitely there. That all being said, there are ways to get a nice sound out of a bottle cap banjo. Omer Forster sure did.

    • @JJ_TheGreat
      @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому +1

      I think people should listen to recordings (like the one in that video) with headphones… The difference was quite noticeable (to me, at least).

  • @donaldfair4259
    @donaldfair4259 Рік тому +4

    Mason it was nice to hear you give some credit to Jim for his contributions to your learning process .

  • @johncoleauthor
    @johncoleauthor Рік тому +3

    Very interesting. I never would have thought there was such a difference in the construction.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      Oh yeah, for sure! They're almost a different type of instrument 😂

  • @jasoncothron9530
    @jasoncothron9530 Рік тому +6

    C'mon man you gotta play them again! That way folks can hear how much better that Rogue sounds...

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +2

      Well I have two other videos where I compare them... 🤪😂

  • @dennisatkins9837
    @dennisatkins9837 Рік тому +3

    My first banjo was an aluminum pot banjo. I now have one with a cast brass tone ring. Major difference. It’s harder to tell listening on a phone or iPad, but I could hear the difference in the video you did.

  • @banjiddle
    @banjiddle Рік тому +2

    I’m glad you showed the Rogue AL without a tone ring or wood. I have the open back for travel that was $150. The next Rogue up is $249.with NATO resonator. This doesn’t do much for the sound, and will cost to add on to make it sound better. The Goldtone OB250+ is a better sounding banjo with JLS, Bell bronze tone ring. The sound is more balanced and rings louder. Neither compare to my Earl Scruggs Gibson Golden Deluxe, but your paying for a Ferrari and not a Pinto!

  • @Joshua-gt7pz
    @Joshua-gt7pz Рік тому

    I can barely hear the difference, but UA-cam compresses sound for streaming. That's why it's so hard to hear the difference on the Internet.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      Never heard of that...

    • @Joshua-gt7pz
      @Joshua-gt7pz Рік тому

      @@MasonCroneMusic never heard of compression? Listen to your favorite track over Bluetooth.

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому

    3:37 I am just curious: Is it possible to play a resonator banjo without the resonator being on - more like an open-back banjo (without a resonator)? If so, would it sound ok?
    Also, what about the reverse - could you add a resonator to an open-back resonator - and would you be able to get the same volume?
    In other words, is the difference between an open-back banjo and a resonator banjo ONLY the resonator or lack of a resonator - or are there additional differences in their build?
    Thanks.

    • @JJ_TheGreat
      @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому

      So I guess you kind of answered this in the video! Resonator banjos have tone rings in them, to help project more - whereas open-back banjos do not, correct?!
      Thanks.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  10 місяців тому +1

      The resonator makes it project more, the tone ring is for, well, tone 😂 Typically you couldn't add a resonator to an open back banjo without modifying it, it has to have somewhere to attach

    • @JJ_TheGreat
      @JJ_TheGreat 10 місяців тому

      @@MasonCroneMusic Great, thanks!

  • @swt418
    @swt418 10 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for the reviews. Have you ever heard of a Danville brand banjo? I'm in the market for a moderately priced beginner instrument and I'm seeing several Danville banjo's around.

  • @paulfoytack5267
    @paulfoytack5267 Рік тому +2

    I don't remember the name, but my first banjo (in the 70's) had a rim made of molded plastic. I didn't know the difference.
    I now have a Hatfield Buckcreek and will never give it up!

  • @charles-rl3jy
    @charles-rl3jy Рік тому

    I started with a cheap Franciscan now have a RK Elite 75 huge difference. Great video thank you Mason

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      That's so cool, I played a 76 which is the same thing but a different inlay on the neck. It was a great banjo.

  • @mikefinley4367
    @mikefinley4367 Рік тому

    Well done . Maybe, (just a thought) you'd consider becoming a luthier ? Yourcthoughts?

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      I've thought about it before, not much lately though.

    • @mikefinley4367
      @mikefinley4367 Рік тому

      Don't be me and get the idea after 60. Some people's kids ... last minute Mike.

  • @cynthiastrite6439
    @cynthiastrite6439 Рік тому +3

    Alsome video mason, also where is your Ibanez. You should do a short playing all three banjos

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      It's currently in a case in the corner haha.

    • @cynthiastrite6439
      @cynthiastrite6439 Рік тому

      Lol I would love to see you play fiddle with banjo picks 🤣

  • @Calvin.The.Unfindable
    @Calvin.The.Unfindable Рік тому

    thats an interesting comparison. nice to know why one sounds different over the other. great explanation.

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому

    4:15 Wow! I never knew what the inside of a banjo looked like… So there is wood inside a banjo!
    Thanks for this video.

  • @josh_nailor
    @josh_nailor Рік тому

    Very interesting to see the difference! I got an OB250 about 2 weeks ago and compared that to my Epiphone MB100, it’s very easy to hear the differences in person too!

  • @JacobgraceAnna1005
    @JacobgraceAnna1005 Рік тому

    Great video! I have a Johnson banjo and a 1970 Gibson banjo and there is a big difference!

  • @jmills60
    @jmills60 Рік тому +1

    Are they the same size heads?

  • @nizzel_
    @nizzel_ Рік тому

    I wonder if it would be easier to hear how different they sound from each other if you played the banjo's at different distances to the camera? 🤷

  • @Steve-jf3hf
    @Steve-jf3hf Рік тому +2

    Hi Mason, great video, well done 👍🏻!
    I think my banjo parts and pieces will still be good for err......maybe making something else..?? 🤔🤣🪕

  • @mutangpadan5311
    @mutangpadan5311 4 місяці тому

    Hi Mason, I have this Asthon BNJ50 made in Australia, which I bought from a friend whi owns a music shop. There’s no YT review of this banjo. Price range is AUD500+. The D string do not seem to have that good sustain or resonance to it. How would you grade this?

  • @elisabethemory
    @elisabethemory Рік тому +4

    You almost have 10k subs!!! Congratulations!

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      Hey, thanks! Good to hear from you, feels like it's been awhile for some reason 🤔😂

    • @elisabethemory
      @elisabethemory Рік тому +1

      @@MasonCroneMusic That's cause it has been a while...lol You're getting popular! Soon, I'll have to get you to sign my banjo 😂

    • @aubreyragsdale8163
      @aubreyragsdale8163 Рік тому +2

      He’s catching up to me very quickly. 😝

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      @@aubreyragsdale8163 I may never catch you Miss Ragsdale 🤓

    • @aubreyragsdale8163
      @aubreyragsdale8163 Рік тому +1

      @@MasonCroneMusic Nah you will just keep trying. You’ll get there I promise. 🤓

  • @bdixon1
    @bdixon1 Рік тому

    thanks man, this was very helpful

  • @AverageUser1040
    @AverageUser1040 Рік тому

    Nice video. Seems like there are a lot of $150-$200 banjos out there that are probably all coming from the same factory in China with some slight variations. I am about 4 weeks into this and got the Pyle PBJ60 to start with, happy with it to learn on but will definitely upgrade if I get good at this.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      Exactly, they're all so similar haha. And there's no problem getting started on a cheap one, I only got a better one about half a year ago.

  • @1101nz
    @1101nz Рік тому

    Can you get lower string height without fret buzz on the more expensive one?

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      Yes, you have to do truss rod adjustments. You can do it on the cheap one too but it's more limited.

  • @tommaxwell429
    @tommaxwell429 Рік тому

    So what’s the deal with the OB-300? Is there something wrong with it? I think it’s beautiful, myself. Is it bling only on a poor banjo?

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      I haven't played one... It is beautiful though. And based on parts it's probably about the same as the Gold Tones that are half the price so it's probably a bit overpriced.

  • @Unwritten_Pages
    @Unwritten_Pages Рік тому

    I got a 50's Japanese Lero plectrum banjo, I can't find much info about it but I gathered it was considered an economy brand back then but I wonder how it holds up to a modern "cheap" banjo. I might just have to take the resonator off after watching this!

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      For sure, it's always fun to see what's inside! 😂

  • @tylerphilco
    @tylerphilco 11 місяців тому

    I have played on a $20 pos from a flea market for 25 years. I can play it fine and it sounds like a banjo but I just now got a proper OME and it’s just night and day on the playability. I feel like Scruggs himself on this thing compared to the flea market Lotus.

  • @michaelo1492
    @michaelo1492 9 місяців тому +1

    I watched that video and I could DEFINITELY tell the difference in the two.

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому

    5:02 Yep, two (2) rods.

  • @adventuresofmoonman
    @adventuresofmoonman Рік тому

    Currently playing a cheap banjo to learn on but I’m gonna upgrade. Not sure which one I’m gonna get. My budget is 800$ - $1200. Any suggestions ? Also I played a Washburn that was a few steps up from mine and I could tell the difference especially how comfortable it was to play

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +2

      I would go for the Recording King RK 35 if that's your budget

  • @Ryan98391
    @Ryan98391 4 місяці тому

    I picked up a five string banjo for 150 dollars and it has a geared fifth string tuner and not a friction tuner. It's not amazing but not awful.

  • @mikejaques6573
    @mikejaques6573 3 місяці тому

    Exactly.

  • @tedtedsen269
    @tedtedsen269 Рік тому

    many listeners cannot hear the difference between a cheap and an expensive banjo, I understand that, but the player can hear and feel the difference

  • @jamesandersen8116
    @jamesandersen8116 Рік тому

    I played an old bottle cap for years (the banjo in my profile), fortunately my banjos have been upgraded with my playing. I have people make the "you're just paying for the name" comment to me all the time. No comparison to me, a cheap banjo sounds and feels cheap. Going to go check out your other videos now. Love those new Gold Tone banjos.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for sharing! I get that all the time too, they truly have no idea what they're talking about 😂

  • @ljmproductions1
    @ljmproductions1 Рік тому

    This was cool! I just found your channel after I got inspired to pull out my banjo this morning. Definitely want to play more so I don't lose all the work I put in years ago. I have a Deering Goodtime which was my first and only banjo, and it sounds great, but it's definitely different from something like that Gold Tone. Thanks for the content! I found you and subscribed from one of your shorts, by the way 😎

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching and subscribing! And I'm glad you're getting back into it.

    • @ljmproductions1
      @ljmproductions1 Рік тому

      @@MasonCroneMusic I've been playing about 7 years now and played a bunch the first 3 years or so but have focused more on guitar and fiddle recently. Just don't have enough time to play them all! Looks like you might know what I mean, playing multiple instruments 😁

  • @JohnSims3
    @JohnSims3 10 місяців тому

    I have a Fender bottlecap just like Stringbean! :D

  • @GuruishMike
    @GuruishMike Рік тому

    Awesome.

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat Рік тому

    5:42 Really? LOL 😂😂😂
    People need to practice active listening techniques… And listen with headphones! :-

  • @timothythornburgh9515
    @timothythornburgh9515 Рік тому

    Will a expensive banjo make me sound better?

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      It depends on your experience level, typically not much for a beginner.

  • @johnpaulhumphrey2981
    @johnpaulhumphrey2981 Рік тому +1

    OK, but it just doesn't match the 88 key variety in terms of range of expression

  • @VinnieParsons-e4x
    @VinnieParsons-e4x Рік тому

    You should learn dueling banjos

  • @jbmows
    @jbmows Рік тому

    I thought you were going to play them again!😭🤣
    Haha! If people can't tell one is better quality just by looking at the construction....I mean...it's obvious

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to disappoint you 😭 Yeah, they're completely different. People didn't seem to know that 🤷‍♂️😂

  • @dhjoubert39
    @dhjoubert39 7 місяців тому

    I saw a Bigfoot in the forest behind you.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  7 місяців тому +1

      That was probably a goat. And if it was a Bigfoot it’s not nice to give him away.

    • @dhjoubert39
      @dhjoubert39 7 місяців тому

      @@MasonCroneMusic Hahaha 😆 nice channel, keep it up.

    • @dhjoubert39
      @dhjoubert39 7 місяців тому

      I ordered the Ibanez B200 today. Never played Banjo before. See how it goes.

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  7 місяців тому

      @@dhjoubert39 Have fun!

  • @johnpaulhumphrey2981
    @johnpaulhumphrey2981 Рік тому +1

    Chuck that thing in the bin and get yourself a bagpipe if you really want to suceed in life

    • @MasonCroneMusic
      @MasonCroneMusic  Рік тому

      Might be a good idea.

    • @fernandovelazquez-alvarez4222
      @fernandovelazquez-alvarez4222 Рік тому

      How can you succeed in life by having in a bag your pipe?
      If it hadn't been for Cotton Eyed Joe
      I wouldn't have been picking a fifth string banjo!