Podcast Loudness - How To Hit Exactly -16 LUFS in Adobe Audition

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  • @thisisgeoman
    @thisisgeoman 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this quick tutorial. I was looking for a text-based tutorial. But this works even better. In the current year (2020) the window is called slightly different. "Volume" is now "Loudness". The rest of the tutorial applies as explained in your video. Thanks again!

  • @bgolledge502
    @bgolledge502 2 роки тому

    Thanks Mike 7 years later a big help

  • @StevenImpson
    @StevenImpson 10 років тому +1

    Hey Mike,
    Just wanted to say thanks for this tutorial. It both taught me about the proposed loudness standard for podcasts, and helped me implement this into my own podcast production workflow.
    Thanks a bunch!

  • @filmfoxwell
    @filmfoxwell Рік тому

    Hey mate, many thanks for this super clear tutorial - It's saved my skin a few times now and want to pass on my appreciation for it!

  • @hkaye1603
    @hkaye1603 9 років тому +1

    Hi Mike - Great tutorial, I found this very useful! Adobe also employ the Loudness Radar Meter which can be a great tool for monitoring loudness when mixing. My question is when clicking the limiting box in match volume does this limit to maximum True-Peak? (-1 dBTP for EBU R128).

  • @AtilioFrizarinNeto
    @AtilioFrizarinNeto 2 роки тому

    Obrigado pela dica.
    Passam os anos, mas o saber se perpetua.

  • @melaniescroggins
    @melaniescroggins 2 роки тому

    Amazing tips as always. Exactly what I was looking for. THANK YOU!

  • @mattauckland
    @mattauckland 10 років тому

    Just analysed the podcast edition of my dance music radio show, and it's at -11 LUFS. But then again I use the multiband compressor, and limit the audio to -0.3db to ensure no audio peaks out. Very interesting to know Mike, but for consistency, and syndication of the radio show, I'll stick to my current method. Very interesting though, thanks.

  • @elrapanda
    @elrapanda 3 роки тому

    Cool content, thanks, I have a question, this loudness is average, short term or max? thanks a lot

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 10 років тому +2

    Can I get a quick opinion, Mike?
    Do you think the "podcasting standard" is something that the majority of online audio (i.e. UA-cam videos) should adhere to, or just podcasts?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  10 років тому +6

      Yes, it's a good idea. If you're producing audio for internet or mobile then having a standard can only be a good thing.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox 10 років тому

      ***** Thanks!

  • @runningafever
    @runningafever 6 років тому +3

    Awesome! Wish I had seen this before I started uploading.

  • @THEEQUINEBODYCHANNELwithMC
    @THEEQUINEBODYCHANNELwithMC Рік тому

    Your tutorials are great! Thank you for the clear and understandable help. I keep coming back to you because you help me get the job done.:)

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! I'm glad I could help you and that you find my tutorials clear and understandable.

  • @RichardFarrar
    @RichardFarrar 10 років тому +1

    Brilliant video Mike and that looks so easy in Adobe Audition, such an easy workflow that there's absolutely no reason not to do it. Thanks for helping to promote this too.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  10 років тому

      It's a pleasure Richard Farrar. It's good to see some kind of audio standards developing for podcasting!

    • @TheNashvilleJason
      @TheNashvilleJason 10 років тому +1

      I haven't watched the video yet, but I will. I just wanted to say that some of my voice work is required to be at -3 before the company will even accept it. I do my podcast that way and have zero complaints on audio quality. I DO use Audition and have a recording degree so there's that too. Can't wait to watch and hear your take on it.
      THE NASHVILLE ROCKS PODCAST

  • @bmcgoo6027
    @bmcgoo6027 Рік тому

    Thanks Mike, but how do you save as your metadata?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  Рік тому

      Saving podcast metadata in Audition is as easy as hitting Ctrl/Cmd & P on your keyboard.

  • @MrKlein17
    @MrKlein17 9 років тому +3

    Hello Mike, thanks for taking the time to make the tutorials.
    Question, this step of leveling the loudness should be always done before starting to mix anything right? wether if its for tv, movie, radio... since this "match clip volume" changes the volume (db) of the clip... it would change the whole mix right?

    • @JohnPerrings
      @JohnPerrings 9 років тому

      Good question +Leon Klein. I would also like to know when, in the workflow, is best to perform this. +Mike Russel?

    • @WesMcKithern
      @WesMcKithern 9 років тому +1

      +Leon Klein I am wondering this myself. If you match volume before mixing and then run match volume after, I see that compression, EQ, etc. has reduced the volume again back to somewhere between -18 and -20 LUFS. So, I'm not sure if I should run it again afterwards or if I should just be using it after the mix is complete.

    • @jjwhittle8873
      @jjwhittle8873 7 років тому +2

      I would generally say that matching the loudness should be at the end of the chain, in much the same way maximizing is at the end of the end in music production. As you say, it would change the LUFS level if you start messing around with the audio again afterwards.

  • @BrettParry
    @BrettParry 10 років тому

    Great video Mike. I am with you. Great to see some standards being applied. This ease of functionality makes it still accessible for everyone. Wow, how far things have come! Thanks for sharing

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  10 років тому

      Thanks Brett Parry. Yep, Adobe Audition makes this process really simple!

  • @TheWebMarketingShow
    @TheWebMarketingShow 10 років тому

    Great tip Mike - Thanks for sharing.

  • @WeirdDarknessOfficial
    @WeirdDarknessOfficial 5 років тому +2

    Really appreciate you having this here, Mike - thank you! Looks like I've naturally been hitting about -14 on all of my podcasts, so I was close - but this is a great tool I know I'll be using quite a bit now!

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  5 років тому

      Awesome, thanks for letting me know :)

  • @jimpurcell
    @jimpurcell 5 років тому

    Thanks for the help! Was wondering how!

  • @mhelmhold
    @mhelmhold 5 років тому

    Hey Mike, for me it's a blank page. It makes no sense in audition to optimize the single files e. g. to -16 dB and then I add effects to clips or tracks and export my full podcast episode. It makes no sense. After adding compression, hard limiter etc. it's not -16 dB anymore and probably not suitable for youtube anymore. So is my workflow really: match loudness of all files, add effects, export the whole session, import wav or mp3 and adjust loudness again. Makes no sense, doesn't it? Is there an effect which is correcting a track or a clip for LUFS standards? Thank you and please tell me if I missed something:)
    Malte

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  5 років тому +1

      Try in multitrack view the "Match Clip Loudness" function for this.

    • @mhelmhold
      @mhelmhold 5 років тому

      @@MikeRussell thank you Mike, but thats not what I mean. It makes no sense to optimize all clips, put compressors etc. on top of all, export and then expect the loudness to be fit. But try to hard to find a solution for me, I think there is none except for exporting and then matching clip loudness on the export as a final step. I checked up on so many UA-cam Videos for another solution. :) Have a great day, Malte

  • @freddielotje
    @freddielotje 3 роки тому

    Hey Mike, question: What’s the difference between normalize, limiter and lufs?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому +2

      Normalisation takes the highest point of the audio and increases or decreases all the audio by the difference needed to make the loudest part the target level. It has no effect on the dynamic range.
      Limiter just limits the audio at the level you set. A limiter can also have an input boost which when set incorrectly turns a limiter into a compressor.
      LUFS is a method of measuring loudness, it stands for Loudness Units against Full Scale

  • @jayyalvarezpodcast
    @jayyalvarezpodcast 9 місяців тому

    do i do this before i apply all my compressors and eq to the vocals or after i apply all my eq and compressors ? im confused when it comes to the steps if anyone can helo thanks ! also im going to be importing the audio into adobe premiere to edit along with the video since it is a video podcast thanks again !

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  9 місяців тому +1

      Apply your EQ and compression first, then normalize the track to achieve the desired loudness.

    • @jayyalvarezpodcast
      @jayyalvarezpodcast 9 місяців тому

      @@MikeRussell your the man! should i use the setting in adobe audition or the fab filter Pro L2 ? also when limiting for podcast standard of -16 should there be a limiter on each audio track and on the master as well ?

    • @jayyalvarezpodcast
      @jayyalvarezpodcast 9 місяців тому

      also do you recommend setting the de-esser first on the vocal chain , then eq then compression or ? ... and in this video what do you mean by add the meta data after macthing loudness to -16 dbs @ 2:37

  • @puspitabella4795
    @puspitabella4795 4 роки тому

    thanks Mike, great tutorial!

  • @Layarion
    @Layarion 4 роки тому

    question, should I trust the LM's built-in compressor?

  • @Ziplock9000
    @Ziplock9000 6 років тому +2

    "Match Volume Settings" does not work when there's only one file, which makes sense. So how do you adjust the LUFS for just one file?

    • @thevoxstar7392
      @thevoxstar7392 6 років тому +1

      John Michael Stock
      I want to know this too. I’m at the point of creating a second file of minimal length just to match them. I’ll investigate and see what I come up with.

  • @TechIlliterate
    @TechIlliterate 10 років тому

    Great tutorial Mike, Thank you!

  • @Thejosephjeavons
    @Thejosephjeavons Рік тому

    super helpful. Thanks

  • @MarianPierreLouis
    @MarianPierreLouis 4 роки тому

    Mike, what's the difference between using the match volume settings and the normalize to .1 dB process? They seem to have a similar effect.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Marian, normalise will found the loudest part of your audio and either boost or trim the entire audio by the difference between the loudest peak and the target level to which you are normalising. The match loudness is different in that the LUFS scale (Loudness Units relative to Full Scale) is a perceived loudness level and calculates how loud something will be perceived by the average human hearing.

    • @MarianPierreLouis
      @MarianPierreLouis 4 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell Thanks Mike. Do you go into loudness and LUFS and compression in your course in detail? I really need to understand these and to know which order to put them in the effects rack and why. I'm a podcaster who really wants to understand the technical aspects of audio and it seems hard for me to find this information (short of doing a university course).

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому

      Hi, this is covered in the Podcast course. Drop us a message via the website and we can discuss what you need covered and whether this is in the course. If not you can always arrange 1 to 1 coaching musicradiocreative.com/contact

  • @luismscarvalho
    @luismscarvalho 10 років тому

    This standard (-16 LUFS) should/could be used for music?

  • @gameblogua5274
    @gameblogua5274 4 роки тому

    looking for auto-matching. for "favorite" scenario. fast denoise+dereverb+LUFSmatching by 1 pressing button (start favorite scenario). cant find anything for that purpose ((

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, are you looking to record a favourite?

    • @gameblogua5274
      @gameblogua5274 4 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell Hi! Started to watch yours videos few yers ago - thnx for starting tutorials. I'm looking for a (!)plugin(!) to add to my main favorite. Actualy, in my main fav. I have denoise(proc)-dereverb-declick(2steps)-debreath(2steps)-gate(3steps). And, of course, hotkey. 1 magic button ). BUT, now (after few years of VO), I triyng to find some auto-LU-match plugin for last step... ) And it's not as easy as I thought (

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому

      Don't forget you can get a discount on plugins at mrc.fm/waves

  • @Bitney2012
    @Bitney2012 10 років тому

    Hey Mike! Thanks, I missed your tutorials! Hope you've been well

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  10 років тому

      Great thanks Josh Bitney :)

  • @jackboswell
    @jackboswell 3 роки тому

    Hi Mike. Thank you for doing these tutorials - really useful. Sorry if this is a stupid question but at what stage do you do this? It sounds like the very end as you refer to uploading afterwards. If so, presumably this is different to adding compression to bring the levels up to the same point? Or does 'match volume' replace that? Thank you.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому

      Match loudness should be done after all mixing and mastering to ensure the edited podcast hits the loudness standards

    • @jackboswell
      @jackboswell 3 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell Thank you Mike.

  • @suntzugames
    @suntzugames 10 років тому

    Would it make sense to go for the same settings for vlogs?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  10 років тому +1

      Absolutely, why not, any audio that's internet, mobile or podcast should have a standard.

  • @radiolabour
    @radiolabour 10 років тому

    Hi Mike,
    Another great video. Thanks.
    I have a question.
    What you seem to have demonstrated is equalizing the volume of five individual podcasts so they end up at 16 LUFS.
    But what about equalizing the volume of different sections *within one podcast* so that all the people being interviewed (as is my case) are all at roughly the same volume.
    I currently use the desk top version of Auphonics for this.
    Are you saying that I could use Audition CC (which I use for recording and editing) to do this instead of Auphonics?
    Marc

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate 6 років тому

    Great audio!

  • @Zingsterazn
    @Zingsterazn 5 років тому

    You mention that the meaning of loudness is actually someones "perceived loudness". I notice in the drop down of the tool is several different loudness standards to choose from. One of those is labeled "perceived loudness (legacy)". Would this perhaps be better or does it even mean what it seems? Thanks a lot for your amazing tutorials!

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  5 років тому +1

      I always use the default setting which works well for most instances (including online audio). I'd only change if you know what you're doing and need it for a certain project.

  • @abjater2008
    @abjater2008 9 років тому

    Thanks for the tut on how to get LUVS standard in an audio file. Needed this to get something to broadcast specs and had no idea what it was all about - until I watched your video! Appreciate! BTW: great radio voice! ;-)

  • @PaganGaming
    @PaganGaming 10 років тому

    Good day Mike!
    I have a short question. Is it possible to change the microphones sensitivity in Audition?. What I mean is while recording the (as example) clicks of my mouse dont get recorded too ?

  • @HughesyTech
    @HughesyTech 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this tutorial Mike, really appreciate it :)
    I'm getting confused though with everything. Does it mean that the voices in my podcast should aim to hit -3 dB on the bottom volume meter?
    And then overall loudness in the files afterwards, should be -16 LUFS in the Match Loudness field

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому

      You can work at any level while editing as long as you stay under 0db but the final podcast should be at -16LUFS

  • @TommysOutdoors
    @TommysOutdoors 5 років тому

    Should you aim at -16 LUFS even if your mixdown is a mono track?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  5 років тому +1

      Good question and something I should follow up on. -16 LUFS is good for stereo and mono should be -19 LUFS.

    • @TommysOutdoors
      @TommysOutdoors 5 років тому

      @@MikeRussell Many thanks Mike!

  • @emildragomirescu8979
    @emildragomirescu8979 8 років тому +4

    Not sure you've done this in the right way. You're basically applying normalization on all the podcasts while not taking into account that you're not using a limiter. Practically you peaks might end up being squashed if forced to comply to this -16 lufs threshold and therefore generate distortion. Any lossy conversion will add intersample peaks.
    If you just type -16 lufs it will not make it magically compliant with the ITU/EBU standard, since your true peak value may very well go above the -1dbTP ceiling value.

    • @wj7495
      @wj7495 8 років тому +2

      How do we do it then?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd 5 років тому

      @@wj7495 We can use a compressor to first pull the transient peaks down so that we can normalize to the target loudness level (LUFS).

  • @Mrsdaciedavis
    @Mrsdaciedavis 2 роки тому

    Thank you!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🏼

  • @xCiiDCetra
    @xCiiDCetra 10 років тому

    Hey Mike, sorry for the OT but i need your or someone else's help! Im about to spend 400€ into a new mic and i got 4 mics to choose. Your Audio Technica AT4033 ASM, a Shure SM 7B, a Beyerdynamic M99 and a Electro-Voice RE20. I want to "prodcast" with it and im not a trained prodcaster so it should be easy to use. My room does basicly look like yours (as what i saw in your videos). So overall i have no clue if a dynamic mic would be needed because it would cost a bit more to run it compared with a condenser.
    I hope someone can give me advices.

  • @Lupernig
    @Lupernig 4 роки тому

    gracias!!!

  • @whiskeyandashes
    @whiskeyandashes 10 років тому

    Hi, Mike, perhaps you can help:
    I'm still using Audition's predecessor - CoolEditPro - as it's been meeting my needs for 15 years but I'm not exactly sure how to get to -16 LUFS with it.
    Would 'Normalizing' the final podcast to -16.01dB be effectively the same or no?

  • @AlbertBurdge
    @AlbertBurdge Рік тому

    Thank you!

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  Рік тому

      You're welcome, glad I could help!

  • @thebritishindian1
    @thebritishindian1 4 роки тому

    I couldn't see after applying the -16 LUFS if the Podcast audio reduced the whole track based on the outlier peaks, or if it understood that the really loud outliers were intelligently excluded from the analysis. Unfortunately you didn't show the whole screen at the end!

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому

      Hi, the LUFS measurement is a perceived measure, Loudness units against full scale. Hope this helps

  • @TheNashvilleJason
    @TheNashvilleJason 10 років тому

    Ok, watched it. Great tutorial, but I have to say even with a recording degree (graduated in '99 mind you) that I have no idea what a LUF is. We were always taught DB and DbV. Is LUF a UK standard? Like I said before, my voice over work is required to be at -3Db and I use that same standard for my podcasts to great results. Glad you shared this tutorial though. I had no idea that feature was there. I usually compress and normalize.
    On another note, I'd love to hear what your work flow is for your podcasts. I've only been publishing now for a little over a month once a week. I'm always looking for ways to streamline my process.
    THE NASHVILLE ROCKS PODCAST

    • @soundtheorytv
      @soundtheorytv 10 років тому +1

      Hey Jason - LUFS describes loudness relative to full scale (Loudness Unit relative to Full Scale...) - it measures differences in perceived loudness. On paper, two pieces of audio might be the same RMS or Peak dB value but subjective perception can be different. K-weighting (a feature of LUFS) attempts to overcome this. One unit LUFS is equivalent to one unit dB. Confused? read more here --> www.tcelectronic.com/loudness/loudness-explained/ -- Hope this informs!

  • @MalkWilliams
    @MalkWilliams 8 років тому

    Thanks Mike, that's _exactly_ what I needed to know!

  • @ubahnfan1112
    @ubahnfan1112 10 років тому

    Can I learn your Microphone's and your Sound Card's name?

  • @Jazzchisel
    @Jazzchisel 10 років тому

    How would one do this in CS6, Mike?

  • @nikinik7503
    @nikinik7503 9 років тому

    Amazing as always!

  • @ianjgd
    @ianjgd 4 роки тому

    Brilliant!

  • @chrisparker5278
    @chrisparker5278 4 роки тому

    1:20

  • @libertariansonfire5303
    @libertariansonfire5303 8 років тому

    I analyzed my first episode in Audition and found it as at -15 LUFS. I decided to leave it there. It's close enough, and as a listener, I like my podcasts slightly loud anyway.

    • @JoeBlac
      @JoeBlac 8 років тому

      That's the personal choice of the listener. By being out of spec, it's back on the listener having to adjust volume to compensate. Why make things harder for your listeners? Also, non-compliant content risks being rejected or re-encoded by services/platforms that enforce the standard, meaning you're giving up control of your final quality.

  • @PositiveActionMan
    @PositiveActionMan 10 років тому +1

    Mike, you mentioned meta data.. could you please explain this as I intend to do some podcasting soon and dont want to miss anything out that I should be doing. Thanks

  • @Sam-ht5dk
    @Sam-ht5dk 10 років тому

    Nice tip!

  • @georgewashington2548
    @georgewashington2548 3 роки тому

    Hi Mike Russel, quick question. What are the loudness standards for an online radio station for today?
    The PRSS NEW Audio Loudness Standard has been set at -24 LUFS, ± 2 LU, audio peaks ≤ -3 dBFS for sample peaks or ≤ -2 dBTP for True Peaks, meaning producers should strive to set their programs’ audio levels at -24 Loudness Units Relative to Full Scale (LUFS), with a deviation range of plus or minus two Loudness Units and an audio peak at or below -3 dBFS or -2 dBTP. But that will be a problem with Alexa: Program loudness for Alexa should average -14 dB LUFS/LKFS. The true-peak value should not exceed -2 dBFS.
    Please advice?
    Thanks for this video.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому +1

      Radio traditionally has always maxed out the volume. The audio passes through a set of processors to ensure its compressed, hard limited and pumped to the Max.

    • @georgewashington2548
      @georgewashington2548 3 роки тому

      I got it, PRSS answered my question today. Radio LUFs in 2021 must be:
      Loudness Standard: ITU BS.1770-3
      Target Loudness: -24
      Tolerance: -2
      Max True Peak Level: -2 dbTP
      Look-Ahead Time: 12ms
      Release Time: 200 ms

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому

      👌

    • @georgewashington2548
      @georgewashington2548 3 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell so i have been playing with the loudness thing in audition.
      What's the best way to increase the max. audio peak?
      No matter I set it to -2 my average audio peak is -5/-6 which is the reason Alexa declines my skill :(
      Looking forward to your tip

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  3 роки тому

      This is impossible to answer as it may be that your stream host also adds processing.

  • @tonyfourpaws4511
    @tonyfourpaws4511 4 роки тому

    SO, what is the proper formula? E,N,C.E, LUFS, Normalize?

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому

      Your podcast should be set to match the loudness standard LUFS (loudness units against full scale). Most podcasters go for the unofficial target of -16LUFS

    • @tonyfourpaws4511
      @tonyfourpaws4511 4 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell Thank you for your quick response Mike, I guess if i was to rephrase the question: In what order do these operations take place? eq, normalize, compress, eq, LUFS, normalization? do i EQ first, move through to get the sound good and then set the LUFS and then Normalize? thank you again.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому +1

      ENCN will come first so equalise, normalise, compress (only very lightly for a podcast) normalise and then when you've got the sound how you like it match the loudness to -16 LUFS.

    • @tonyfourpaws4511
      @tonyfourpaws4511 4 роки тому

      @@MikeRussell excellent. Thank you.

    • @MikeRussell
      @MikeRussell  4 роки тому

      👌

  • @GilostegasShagariSalah
    @GilostegasShagariSalah 9 років тому

    Let me try it out

  • @ChumbusPb
    @ChumbusPb Рік тому

    8y latter and saving everybody

  • @vasilzgkouri3318
    @vasilzgkouri3318 6 років тому

    Thats done wrong...without using the limiter you will get distorted signal after the loudnes match.