The Boks are world class and the supporters I've met have rugby in their blood and are great company, it was a narrow victory for us against the number 1 team in the world.
Munster Fan, and loving the introduction of your teams to the URC. SA two week rugby trip has become a bucket list trip, because your fans are a class act. The crews on the SS rugby Chanel are kinda cocky. Then listening to the boots on the ground, thought change, no, they (SA rugby people) are second to none. Are you a Bull, Lion, Shark, Stormer or do you even follow URC.
@@cofy3295Not that much interest in the URC from our fans at first, but many of us know enjoy it as much as we did Super Rugby against the NZ and Aus teams. You have to know the opposition teams and players to really appreciate the games and that takes a few seasons, but we are getting there. Amazes me how the Irish prodice such great teams from sich a comparatively small player base! It is a great competition. From a Lions fan.
Probably the most physical battle, ‘within the laws’, on a rugby field. Ireland really gave the Boks a taste of their own medicine and the Boks struggled to adjust in that first half. Rassie stirred them up at half time and the Boks came back hard in the second half. Brilliant win for Ireland but never rule the Boks out. Two great teams and yet another great match to watch.
Congratulations Ireland.... You now have another quiver in your bow. It was a masterclass bringing on a drop goal specialist at the end. It was an epic game, back and forth and was a lovely physical contest. Now we know what it feels like to lose by a point. I look forward to our next rematch. We love these powerhouse games. Congrats.
Andy Farrell has to take huge credit for irelands success , he took Jamison Gibson Park and made him world class and put Jamie Osbourne at 15 , no experience there and Ciaran Crawley who can’t get into Leinster team , well done Andy
A test series draw against the world champions on home soil was a great result - great series, fantastic talent emerging on both sides... fair play to Ireland who were both player and energy depleted at the end of the season - proud of you.
(On field) Rugby is absolutely amazing at the moment. I feel we're in a real golden age, such close margins, rivalries building over several years and finally getting good quality behind the scenes access
Good on Ireland deserved win. The previous week could have gone either way as well. Pity there is not a decider. Frawley brilliant under pressure. Good for rugby. Bok supporter. We love the Irish!
I am still just so surprised by the complete day and night of these two matches. Ireland played so well and SO did South Africa, and the fact that it was 1 1 shows how evenly matched they can be with a weeks difference. SA had our number for a good bit of the first test and then we were able to weather that and move forward. I LOVE this irish team, just because every match is a pleasure to watch. And when we lose it is to the class that teams like South Africa and New Zealand, and indeed England *shakes fist* :D Loving Rugby at the moment
Ireland looks like a team that can absolutely adjust to what's in front of them. Do we think Graham Henry's approach of creating essentially two teams is the way to beat Ireland consistently? They've proven they can overcome a loss on more than one occasion and it appears to be habit forming.
I think if Ireland want success next World Cup we need to take a leaf out of the springboks book and get beaten in the pool stages, this team always looks stronger after a loss
You have to hand it to Andy Farrell and how he gets the best from his players even when the chips are down. Keenan, JGP & Hansen were unavailable and then Sheehan and Casey went down injured in the first test. All key players. He then drops POM and Aki for 2nd test and decides to bring in some other lads who chomping at the bit to wear that green jersey and play against the world champions and they all delivered. Osborne, Frawley, Blade, McCloskey etc gave it everything in this second test when it really mattered. Farrell's man management is really top drawer!
The likes of blade and Frawley Osborne, Izzy and Nick Twomey and Tom O'Toole,jager and Thomas ahern need be given game time in November matches to really test out the squad
I don't believe aki got dropped... albeit aki did have a quite first match...he picked up a knock... Aki Henshaw Ringrose And stuart We are spoilt for centre's..
@@bl2944It wasn't, he clearly went full speed towards Bealhams legs. As soon as he stops he holds his hands up to try to blame Bealham. A clear effort to cheat.
@bl2944 he genuinely slipped, however he tried to cheat after be throwing his hands in the air claiming a fowl. The world or rugby was watching. That was embarrassing to watch it in rugby. Something you see in football.
Mitchell was exceptional and is becoming as key to England as JGP is to Ireland, but we need a second scrum half almost as much as we need a couple of tight heads. But let's be clear four fabulous test matches in the summer series is a real win for us rugby fans, doesn't matter if your a NZ, Bokke, Irish or England supporter ... and well done Ireland.
Almost a tradition we should really. Campbell / Ward. Humphreys / O'Gara. O'Gara / Sexton. We need Frawley / Crowley...with Prendergast possibly outstripping both. Leo HAS to to stop with the Byrnes at Leinster. They're solid players but they don't have the ceiling of Frawley or Prendergast.
@marooned-ou4fj I think Crowley's strength is his weakness and vice versa, he's very cool and level headed from what I've seen, but a bit too cool at times, it's far from the first time his kicks have been charged down and blocked. I still think he's a very good player and we're lucky to have him after Sexton retiring. As a Munster man I'm happy to have him, but as an Irishman also very pleased what I saw with Frawley. Hopefully they both can vy for that jersey over the next decade or so, we do need at least 2 international class players for that pivotal position.
The win for Ireland was great for rugby....I'm really looking forward to the autumn series... HUGE games for Ireland..people will say blood new talent..how do you play any thing other than a full strength against the all blacks..
The reality of the state of world rugby ... right now ... is that there are 5 teams who are capable of beating each other on any given day ... SA, Ire, NZ, Fra & Eng. The world rankings reflect that and the results between these teams has been mainly by one score in the last 2/3 years ... home and away! Rugby is in a good place!!!
Very generous commentary lads in all fairness thanks. Jamie Os is gifted Frawley is gifted rarely are we blessed with such a selection with a massive manager too
Ireland played magnificently...what is difficult to believe is that they cant win a world cup...amazing after watching the second test on Saturday...maybe 2027 is their year..
Well they should have beaten NZ in the 2023 RWC but quite honestly choked, the way the ABs have done when going into the RWC clearly the best side. It's a knockout comp, and it takes very little to get knocked out! They should cherish the #1 ranking, it really counts for more. for now.
GBR lads talking about the ABs lineout like it was a disaster. They disrupted 4, 2 of which were just bumbles by people dropping the ball. One which was knocked on from the top. England similarly, had about the same percentage of troubles, yet no comment. Clean breaks/defenders beaten. England didn’t really do a lot. If the only strategy to attack is to kick the ball and hope you recover it, then you’ve likely already lost the game before it starts. I know you lads want to support the English boys and build it up that it was close. But if we look at ceilings. The ABs have so much room to improve, the English however are already close to that ceiling.
The way these guys were talking. The ABs are very much written off and underrated. It's all about how England let us off the hook and how much better England will get and how good Ireland and the Boks are even though the ABs won both games playing poorly and will improve plus Razor will be reviewing that series and tinkering with players that he will want to see yet that will be in the squad and of course there will be another squad announced for the rugby championship. The ABs are far from the finished product yet. But I don't mind if the ABs go under the radar. We all saw what happened last year when Noone was talking about them pre world cup.
5 games..... if going by the physicality of this two game series neither team would have any players left 😂 but would be definitely be exciting to watch. As an Irish supporter I was on the edge of my seat. There isn't much between the top 4/5.
England had the 6 nations and a warm up match whilst the all blacks had 9 days with a completely new coach and management and new combinations!!! This was englands only chance to beat the all blacks at home 😂
You guys didnt point out that the All Blacks are under a new coaching team and that makes it harder to win. The fact that they beat England 2 nil is very impressive because everything is new for them and they are going to get much better.
I was the same when SA joined , but honestly it’s the greatest move in world rugby. Getting to see the SA teams is unreal. Awesome rugby players to watch. Without travel hindrance, I’m sure they would probably win, but at least you all your teams travel better than the English, French, Italians, Irish, Scottish and Welch did in the beginning. I was looking at the Currie Cup line up. Lions have a different sponsor, hope your boys go well. I’ll be watching for some threats in our URC contacts. Any name drops to look out for?
Sorry I dont watch URC but have SA not also had a ridiculously long season, not just Ireland? Rugby championship->RWC->URC and challenge cup final etc?
Yes they have. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from. The main difference is in what has happened since the world cup, where Ireland had the 6 Nations while SA had no tests.
Not exactly. Their international season is just starting. They had a break when the six nations was on. The boks have only had 3 games since the WC including yesterday.
You got it wrong bro the All Blacks have always felt the pressure which is the reason why we are always successful, every team wants to beat us and that's how it's always been.
Delusional tripe. Writing off the ABs after Razor being in charge for two games is just laughable. ABs would have won the RWC if it wasn’t for a certain TMO bottling it and not sending off the Bok’s captain after already sending the NZ captain off. Well done to Ireland though. Great team, fantastic manager & awesome game.
Yeah, all we heard was England, poor England, coulda, shoulda, woulda came up countless times. The end result that matters is the scoreboard after 80. It stands as ABs 2-0 after 2 tests. I found it quite irritating hearing about all the growth England has in their game, which is fair that may be the case, yes. But they clearly see this AB side for what it was after them 2 games. Shane Horgan was happy to throw some jabs in saying there's something wrong with us and our aura being gone, etc. We are just building. There will be innovation in our game to come. I have no doubt Razor wanted to keep things simple for this series and firstly win the tests. They did that. There will be things Razor won't be happy with, and I'm sure they will be addressed and that maybe including selection of the side or members of the wider squad coming in. It's funny, though, just 2 games, and we are written off even though we won them ugly, however you want to call it. If we win the Rugby Championship, it will be interesting to see what they say.
no one talking about sexton been missing. have we found a new dimension.... and depth... we building some great depth across the park. New Zealand November 10th in Dublin will be a cracker.
Maybe, it might take the ABs a little longer to reverse the decline of the last few years. I think we have the players all right, now we just have to find out if the coaching is up to it. . Of course most of our one-eyed fans will say otherwise!
I remember at the world cup the Allblacks beat Ireland I also remember the Allblacks lost by one point to the world champs with a man down. Tell me how do you guys keep saying Ireland and south Africa are the two best teams. Just think about it for a second
It's the sane attitude that caused Northern hemisphere teams to underrated us at the RWC. The England early subs were because NZ fitness superior. England's water boys were top notch though! lots of fake injuries. Also refs pyschanalyzed the heck out of that last maul.Give it a rest
NZ used to be very good, but not sure anyone would rate them that highly now, they had an out of this world performance against Ireland in the world cup, near perfect and SA never put teams away, and have far too much respect for NZ considering how good they are themselves. I genuinely believe if Robertson can get this crop of players to anywhere near past glories it will be the biggest achievement of his career. Need to drop Ioane from 13 for a start!!
as a nzder no1 no2 don't care they deserve the rankings they earned it what I do care about is that the Abs management and squad are continuously work on their weaknesses their shortcomings because there are some including remapping and team synergy with today's blitz defense big ball carriers that can Shift will be interesting and we have a few
Well played Ireland - easily the two best teams currently. I was annoyed that the Boks didn't go for even one lineout/maul option out of those eight penalty kicks.
Is Frawley fourth choice 10 at Leinster? After the Byrnes and Prendergast? I've seen him play fb with Ireland but had no idea he was from Leinster cause Keenan is 15 there.
They forget one thing . All blacks have a new staff coaching and were only for 10 days so impossible to learn all the gameplan and combinations. Razor said them : do simple for the tests . They will work the rest in any position . Bothwick has a team settled… difference with the all blacks. It was not the 23 best all blacks but with more experience. In November, we will see the 23 best all blacks with many new youngers players : bell Darry lord sttiti lakai Iose Roigard ratima proctor love .. In November, England will be vs all blacks beast scary !
New coaching staff, ABs lost their starting locks, halfback, blindside and 1st 5 from last year and have just come together as a team. Its crazy how much the ABs get overlooked when they win and its more how the opposition lost it
@@usedtoreadwordupmagazineYeah I think the rest of the world continuously gauge the ABs from 100 years of history and there dominance in world Rugby over the last couple of decades. It's only since 2015 when the ABs lost there once in a generation type of players the ABs started to drop a few tests here and there including to teams the ABs haven't lost too. We are always judged against them great eras so anything less than what we achieved from those sides we get pushed aside as a side in transition or a team that has lost its way and any victory we seem to have even if it's against a top northern hemisphere side, they see themselves bigger than us now and expect to beat us in there eyes. So when it doesn't happen it becomes a whinge debate about what they did wrong to apose to what we did better than them to win the game. We probably need to go through the whole year unbeaten to shift the narrative of people wiping out that negativity towards the ABs aura.
@tristanmckenzie1623 I think the ABs should put up a statue for Beauden Barrett!! They were very lucky and were playing a game of box kicking where there pundits have critized the Boks on so much.
@revenant2979 They may have been lucky but England didn't take there opportunities and the ABs did particularly when Beaudene Barrett came on. Plus England gave away too many silly penalties and the ABs had a malfunctioning lineout and still got the job done. The lineout won't malfunction forever under this coaching group
South African here. Congratulations to Ireland. Their performance deserved them the win, as bitter as it was for us to swallow. As for this "Best team in the world" debate, when the All Blacks were dominant between 2011 and 2015, we did not see them calling themselves the best because they knew they were the best and did not have to overtly say it. To my memory, only some Ireland fans/pundits have been suggesting that Ireland is the best team in the world, even when they exited the World Cup at a quarter-final again, and were no longer ranked first. In other words, Irish fans are the only persons to make this claim despite their team having not won a World Cup. For me, this is just an indication of their desperation to get the World Cup monkey off their backs. To be clear, there is no hate from my side - I just find it interesting.
You have it so wrong! Irish people are some of the most self-deprecating- it’s not Irish fans or pundits who are saying this, it’s the non-Irish press. And it’s just fodder for the trolls to have a go at a small rugby nation who are performing better than many of the bigger nations. The Irish never take anything for granted but know how to keep pushing themselves to be better.
Two ex players one Welsh and the other a Scot commentating on Irelands 6 Nations title describe Ireland as the best team in the world infuriating South African fans who attribute it to the Irish players and media. Then players got involved and what started as a nothing comment by a neutral then became a thing. Totally blown up by fans and content creators on social media It just demonstrates how fragile and precious some fans really are getting upset over an argument you would expect to hear in a school yard between children
Carefull,,,,, if the the drop missed the discussion would be alot different how Ireland did sqandered a 10 point lead and great how the Boks are to come back
Ben Earls's passing was a killer for England. He threw multiple 'pop' passes that were high and slow and led to recipients getting belted and/or turned over. The penalty for the obstruction was spot on. It was a text book case of a maul halting, then a break away group setting off with the ball carrier not at the front. Too often it isn't penalized as it should be. What was an error from the ref (and the AR's and TMO) was in the lead up to the AB's first try, Ardie Savea goes into contact and has a knee on the ground. At this point he is technically tackled and must release the ball before regaining his feet but he carries on regardless and makes a lot of metres on his carry, which set things up the try. If ball carriers get the advantage of the tacklers being called to release when they barely get a knee to ground to be technically tackled, they can't at other times get a knee to ground and carry on as if it didn't happen. Otherwise the reffing was pretty good.
Teams have been close to beating the AB's for decades. During the period where the AB's won 90% of their games, many went into overtime. Richie was captain then. In the last weeks the AB played for 80 minutes mostly poorly and won. What is wrong with England? How did they not beat a underperforming AB's in NZ two times? I don't get it 🤔.
Forget the Goal kick Shot Clock. World Rugby needs a Water Boy Clock 😂 Ireland are the better side. Nobody believed the ABs weren't the best in the world from 96' to 2011 despite failing at World Cups. Boks have 4 Rugby Championships in 28 years. They arent consistent enough.
SA are deserved world champs but in their last 5 games with Ireland, Ire have 4 wins and SA have ONLY 1 win. This Ireland side don't lose 2 games on the trot. I think they've only lost 3 of their last 24 games.
Yes great sides in any sport don't just win titles they are consistent too SA aren't that's why they can't really be considered a great side because they lose too many games.
I think possible that sa ab and England will all be much better in a year. SA can refresh the team with great players in the pipeline. AB start of new way if playing. England still on climb from from a low point
Im surprised the panel dont see the problem with the English scrum. Its the main reason for their loss here in NZ. Before bedding M.Smith in they should be worried about the scrum more. They have the tools everywhere but the scrum
Boks, AB's, Ireland and France, they have second 15's who could beat, or run very very close to beating England, Scotland. Problems that Both England and Scotland face for different reasons, no strength in depth. Scotland simply has few players to choose from. England, well they do too, but thats because the prem is full of foreign players blocking the progression of home grown talent. ERFU need to do something about this, but they won't, because the prem structure is broken.
I'm not sure about second string teams from the top 4 ranked teams being strong enough to beat England. Yes England are still developing but they lost to South africa in the rwc semi by a point , they lost in NZ by a point in the first test beat Ireland and lost to France. I think England's ranking at 5th is a fair reflection on where they are however they are getting there. . As for the premiership yes it does have foreign players however PR has restricted how many can be on a match squad . I agree that overseas players have negatively affected developing new players in certain positions like centres . England are desperate for quality props but there is decent depth in in the looks and back row. Nine and ten they have options as well as the back three . Certainly the premiership isn't perfect but more EQPs are playing in the premiership. As a tournament yes they dropped down to 10 teams but it has been competitive and their teams did well in the European Champions. It has problems but it isn't broken.
Jeez the boks were a bit poor. Neither team was a bit poor. Ireland just outsmarted them a bit. What would you have said if we did not get those last 2 drops!!! The old story is you play as well as you are allowed, but that even discredits SA's performance.
@@raymonddixon7603 I would have still said that the boks played poorly because they did. Just like they did in the WC semifinal against England but got the rub of the green in that instance.
We are in a new era where there is not much between the top teams as we know. What this means is noone has to win every game to be #1...because numerous teams can beat another on any day. They simply have to win a good portion against good oppostion. Gone are the days of the dominance that the AB's had for so long where they won almost every game and were expected to win every game. If/when Ireland/AB's/France/England get to #1 it will be well deserved and the same principle should apply. Be at #1 and lose a game or 2 to the top teams should not suddenly mean you are not #1. The debate will always be there I suppose. Also, with teams changing up now, not sure how relevant it is at this point in time anyway.
Shane Horgan, you bad man! 😉How crafty of you to take the spotlight off Ireland (who have arguably been the best team in the world over the last 5 years) and insist that the Northern hemisphere need to get together to take NZ (your craftiness confirmed by the way the learned panel all piled on with your suggestion! 😊 Surely the rugby teams need to be focusing on taking down Ireland and South Africa instead! I've got my one-eyed AB supporter radar attuned to your shenanigans😅 Great show lads. Love the insightful banter.
Mike lol, we all know that the boks are the best, how many world cups have you won Mike? This is the lost we needed before the Championship, so bringing us back to perform, so no hard feelings about the loss. Our biggest rivalry is the All Blacks for over a 100 years now, and will always be our rivalry.
Lads, the elephant in the room is the front row. We are seriously underpowered in the props. Cant scrum cant win. England seriously need to address this or they wont win 6N or a WC
I can tell you what annoyed a lot of irish fans and maybe some players was the constant making fun of the song zombie… if anyone knows what that song is about you can’t just bastardise it, the dj in loftus hyping up the crowd when Casey was knocked out cold surrounded by medics. Ironically the disrespect from the dj again when he played emotional damage after Crowley missed a kick only for Frawley to seal the deal with a drop kick… im still baffled as to how world champions couldn’t score one try
Enjoy the win. Celebrate like it's the world cup final. It's the closest you lot ever get lol We'll take the series as a loss because thats what champions do with draws. See you next season..
Omg really. Zombie is just a song. You have the audacity to sing it to a country where many children due to economic circumstances struggle with hunger during the WC when South Africa lost. So give it a rest. LOVED the dj - witty! It's sport. Just celebrate man. And I dont think playing Coldplay "Sky full of stars" during Casey injury as disrespectful unless you wanted us to play something from church, a prayer perhaps? Enjoy the win. Well deserved.
I really think the wreckless physicality we saw on Saturday is a race to the bottom, but if you don’t bring that against SA you are on the backfoot. When you compare the blood and impacts on Saturday to most of the yellow and red cards for head coontact we have seen in recent years, the idea of player welfare is turned on its head
The Boks have always been a super physical rugby team and to have a chance of beating them you have to absolutely contest their physicality.. Well done Ireland 👏👏.
@@DomDeDomyou know Dom Dom although Ireland haven’t won a world cup the are the most successful 6 nations team they have gone south and won series they have beaten every team on the planet in real time. The have been constant winners in the last 20 years , it never took them 18 months to become 5th in the world, and for a tiny nation with a tiny pool of rugby players they are very successful. Compare with England the richest rugby nation the second biggest pool of rugby players on the planet the best facilities and yet countries like NZ with tiny population small rugby pool of players embarrass them by how much they have won. England won a WC 20 years ago there team falls apart every 3/4 years they lie 5th in the world which is about right for them. But trying to compare to Ireland is BS compare apples with apples and you’ll see a major failing with England not Ireland .
Delighted with the win, but SA are monsters. I think it was touch and go and I think us beating them with our attacking and breakdown game just did it. (Interesting! to hear Mike Tindall - who was shit and is not interesting at all), but without such a shit player I think England looked aright. Good centres for a change Mike!
Ireland beat the Boks up in the first half yet could not put the game away. But for a 50/50 long range drop goal on the 78th minute they would’ve lost the series 2:0.
@@savagej2 - of course Ireland won. They won by a point from a 50/50 long range DG in the 78th minutes. Sort of how SA beat the ABs in ‘95 to win their 1st of 4 World Cups. 🏆🏆🏆🏆
And we can go around in circles with rankings and world cups and 6 nations, the 2 heavyweigts faced each other and ireland won, they r the best in the world today
Was at the game. Gutted with the loss but well done to Ireland - fully deserved the win.
The Boks are world class and the supporters I've met have rugby in their blood and are great company, it was a narrow victory for us against the number 1 team in the world.
Well played Ireland, deserved the win. From a South African
Thanks
Munster Fan, and loving the introduction of your teams to the URC. SA two week rugby trip has become a bucket list trip, because your fans are a class act. The crews on the SS rugby Chanel are kinda cocky. Then listening to the boots on the ground, thought change, no, they (SA rugby people) are second to none. Are you a Bull, Lion, Shark, Stormer or do you even follow URC.
@@cofy3295Not that much interest in the URC from our fans at first, but many of us know enjoy it as much as we did Super Rugby against the NZ and Aus teams. You have to know the opposition teams and players to really appreciate the games and that takes a few seasons, but we are getting there. Amazes me how the Irish prodice such great teams from sich a comparatively small player base! It is a great competition.
From a Lions fan.
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Probably the most physical battle, ‘within the laws’, on a rugby field. Ireland really gave the Boks a taste of their own medicine and the Boks struggled to adjust in that first half. Rassie stirred them up at half time and the Boks came back hard in the second half. Brilliant win for Ireland but never rule the Boks out. Two great teams and yet another great match to watch.
Yeah outside the law that's why it's in inverted commas.
Congratulations Ireland.... You now have another quiver in your bow. It was a masterclass bringing on a drop goal specialist at the end. It was an epic game, back and forth and was a lovely physical contest. Now we know what it feels like to lose by a point. I look forward to our next rematch. We love these powerhouse games. Congrats.
As an Irish woman, who has lived in South Africa, I was thrilled at the result. For such s small country we sure have the talent and drive
Congratulations on outplaying us on the day ! Well done 👏 see you next time, thanks for the lekker game 🇮🇪 🇿🇦 🏉
Andy Farrell has to take huge credit for irelands success , he took Jamison Gibson Park and made him world class and put Jamie Osbourne at 15 , no experience there and Ciaran Crawley who can’t get into Leinster team , well done Andy
Frawley?
Great games from Ireland. Handled us physically, dropped off a bit in the 2nd half but found a way win. Congrats from 🇿🇦
Just listened to the Pod, just had to nip on here just to see Shane’s grin at the beginning.
Brilliant show from Ireland 🇮🇪 on Saturday 👏🏻
A test series draw against the world champions on home soil was a great result - great series, fantastic talent emerging on both sides... fair play to Ireland who were both player and energy depleted at the end of the season - proud of you.
Well done Ireland - from a Bok fan. Better team on the night.
I think best side won both tests but both games could have gone either way.
Better team in general 😂
@@LeMerchYou must be a Kiwi? Still coping?😂
Loving this rivalry! Well done Ireland! From SA
(On field) Rugby is absolutely amazing at the moment. I feel we're in a real golden age, such close margins, rivalries building over several years and finally getting good quality behind the scenes access
Good on Ireland deserved win. The previous week could have gone either way as well. Pity there is not a decider. Frawley brilliant under pressure. Good for rugby. Bok supporter. We love the Irish!
I am still just so surprised by the complete day and night of these two matches. Ireland played so well and SO did South Africa, and the fact that it was 1 1 shows how evenly matched they can be with a weeks difference.
SA had our number for a good bit of the first test and then we were able to weather that and move forward. I LOVE this irish team, just because every match is a pleasure to watch. And when we lose it is to the class that teams like South Africa and New Zealand, and indeed England *shakes fist* :D
Loving Rugby at the moment
Great show guys, well done to Ireland much was better on the night! Looking forward Ireland vs Springboks test.
Ireland looks like a team that can absolutely adjust to what's in front of them. Do we think Graham Henry's approach of creating essentially two teams is the way to beat Ireland consistently? They've proven they can overcome a loss on more than one occasion and it appears to be habit forming.
The AB front row doesn't fear the SB front row. BOTH SHIFTS.
I think if Ireland want success next World Cup we need to take a leaf out of the springboks book and get beaten in the pool stages, this team always looks stronger after a loss
Great game Ireland 🇨🇮👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽from springbok supporter
The Ivory Coast thanks you for flying their flag 🇨🇮
You have to hand it to Andy Farrell and how he gets the best from his players even when the chips are down.
Keenan, JGP & Hansen were unavailable and then Sheehan and Casey went down injured in the first test. All key players. He then drops POM and Aki for 2nd test and decides to bring in some other lads who chomping at the bit to wear that green jersey and play against the world champions and they all delivered.
Osborne, Frawley, Blade, McCloskey etc gave it everything in this second test when it really mattered.
Farrell's man management is really top drawer!
The likes of blade and Frawley Osborne, Izzy and Nick Twomey and Tom O'Toole,jager and Thomas ahern need be given game time in November matches to really test out the squad
I don't believe aki got dropped... albeit aki did have a quite first match...he picked up a knock...
Aki
Henshaw
Ringrose
And stuart
We are spoilt for centre's..
Ireland was just better on the day- they deserved the win, the new rivalry is SA IRE- from a Bok fan
Not much of a rivalry 4-1 in the last 5 games.
@@Trajan2401 oh yes you right no excitement ever when they play each other just a walk over for Ireland every time, got it 👍
Ireland have 2 great rivalries now with south africa and new zealand. epic contests.. hopefully some great test series to come over the next 4-5 years
@@CariLWill 4-1 is it?,hardly a rivalry
@@Trajan2401 dude it’s not that deep, just give my comments a thumbs down in future
Congratulations Ireland. Well played. SA here.
Kolbe what a soccer player.
Seems it was a genuine slip TBH
@@bl2944It wasn't, he clearly went full speed towards Bealhams legs. As soon as he stops he holds his hands up to try to blame Bealham. A clear effort to cheat.
@bl2944 he genuinely slipped, however he tried to cheat after be throwing his hands in the air claiming a fowl.
The world or rugby was watching.
That was embarrassing to watch it in rugby.
Something you see in football.
Mitchell was exceptional and is becoming as key to England as JGP is to Ireland, but we need a second scrum half almost as much as we need a couple of tight heads. But let's be clear four fabulous test matches in the summer series is a real win for us rugby fans, doesn't matter if your a NZ, Bokke, Irish or England supporter ... and well done Ireland.
As an Irishman, I love the idea of having 2 top class 10s to choose between.
Soon to be 3 :)
Almost a tradition we should really. Campbell / Ward. Humphreys / O'Gara. O'Gara / Sexton. We need Frawley / Crowley...with Prendergast possibly outstripping both. Leo HAS to to stop with the Byrnes at Leinster. They're solid players but they don't have the ceiling of Frawley or Prendergast.
@@LFire12 Crowley was very poor on Saturday. Fawley should have been 10 for Leinster for 4/5 years.
@@Stephno86 Prendergast?
@marooned-ou4fj
I think Crowley's strength is his weakness and vice versa, he's very cool and level headed from what I've seen, but a bit too cool at times, it's far from the first time his kicks have been charged down and blocked. I still think he's a very good player and we're lucky to have him after Sexton retiring. As a Munster man I'm happy to have him, but as an Irishman also very pleased what I saw with Frawley. Hopefully they both can vy for that jersey over the next decade or so, we do need at least 2 international class players for that pivotal position.
The win for Ireland was great for rugby....I'm really looking forward to the autumn series... HUGE games for Ireland..people will say blood new talent..how do you play any thing other than a full strength against the all blacks..
What a game couldn't take my eyes off it hell of a drop goal to win it well, played Ireland, so many lions in that team
brilliant guys. Great easy listening. Irl 1 - SA 1 & the former team minus J G-Park, Dan Sheehan, Hugo Keenan, Jack Conan, Bundi Aki, Crowley !
The reality of the state of world rugby ... right now ... is that there are 5 teams who are capable of beating each other on any given day ... SA, Ire, NZ, Fra & Eng. The world rankings reflect that and the results between these teams has been mainly by one score in the last 2/3 years ... home and away! Rugby is in a good place!!!
you could see the south africans looking serious and a bit shocked all match long , even when it was going well for them
Will Leo Cullen finally give Frawley a chance for Leinster?
Surely he plays him no. 10.
What is he waiting for??
The joke is, if Frawley didn't pull out that performance, he was probably looking at being 4th choice at Leinster next season
How ,the burner brothers are 3 and 4
@@marcusmcmahon5414Not to Cullen apparently, but he is a fool
Very generous commentary lads in all fairness thanks. Jamie Os is gifted Frawley is gifted rarely are we blessed with such a selection with a massive manager too
Ireland played magnificently...what is difficult to believe is that they cant win a world cup...amazing after watching the second test on Saturday...maybe 2027 is their year..
Well they should have beaten NZ in the 2023 RWC but quite honestly choked, the way the ABs have done when going into the RWC clearly the best side. It's a knockout comp, and it takes very little to get knocked out! They should cherish the #1 ranking, it really counts for more. for now.
GBR lads talking about the ABs lineout like it was a disaster.
They disrupted 4, 2 of which were just bumbles by people dropping the ball. One which was knocked on from the top.
England similarly, had about the same percentage of troubles, yet no comment.
Clean breaks/defenders beaten.
England didn’t really do a lot.
If the only strategy to attack is to kick the ball and hope you recover it, then you’ve likely already lost the game before it starts.
I know you lads want to support the English boys and build it up that it was close. But if we look at ceilings. The ABs have so much room to improve, the English however are already close to that ceiling.
True England can't get much better NZ can get a lot better.
The way these guys were talking. The ABs are very much written off and underrated. It's all about how England let us off the hook and how much better England will get and how good Ireland and the Boks are even though the ABs won both games playing poorly and will improve plus Razor will be reviewing that series and tinkering with players that he will want to see yet that will be in the squad and of course there will be another squad announced for the rugby championship. The ABs are far from the finished product yet. But I don't mind if the ABs go under the radar. We all saw what happened last year when Noone was talking about them pre world cup.
I enjoyed that analysis, better than sky sports tv 😅
No JK
Cullen must be feeling like an amateur, Farrell picked JGP when he wasn't top dog and Frawley clearly has been massively unlucky to date.
i think we just need a Ireland vs ZA tour of 5 games i cant get enough of it cause its a proper arm wrestle
5 games..... if going by the physicality of this two game series neither team would have any players left 😂 but would be definitely be exciting to watch. As an Irish supporter I was on the edge of my seat. There isn't much between the top 4/5.
@@dogememer4780 or perhaps a league exclusive to the top 4 teams for a trophy
Great show guys!
Why concentrate on the "amount of claret spilt" as being a measure of the game rather than on the skill sets necessary to score triys.?
Horgan is incorrect about the training. They trained once apparently.
I'm just pleased the AB's didn't concede a red or yellow card 😅
With Razor , discipline top
True that
Now no one has a chance they needed cards to beat NZ 😂.
England had the 6 nations and a warm up match whilst the all blacks had 9 days with a completely new coach and management and new combinations!!! This was englands only chance to beat the all blacks at home 😂
Yeah but the All blacks were fresh. Northern hemisphere teams after a gruelling 13 months season.
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You guys didnt point out that the All Blacks are under a new coaching team and that makes it harder to win. The fact that they beat England 2 nil is very impressive because everything is new for them and they are going to get much better.
Irishman here England ruined our chances of a second grand slam in a row with a last second drop goal as well
I was the same when SA joined , but honestly it’s the greatest move in world rugby. Getting to see the SA teams is unreal. Awesome rugby players to watch. Without travel hindrance, I’m sure they would probably win, but at least you all your teams travel better than the English, French, Italians, Irish, Scottish and Welch did in the beginning. I was looking at the Currie Cup line up. Lions have a different sponsor, hope your boys go well. I’ll be watching for some threats in our URC contacts. Any name drops to look out for?
Sorry I dont watch URC but have SA not also had a ridiculously long season, not just Ireland? Rugby championship->RWC->URC and challenge cup final etc?
Yes they have. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from. The main difference is in what has happened since the world cup, where Ireland had the 6 Nations while SA had no tests.
They didn't play the 6N. That's the only difference. But, while the SA players were resting for a few weeks, Ireland was playing.
They didn't play the 6N. That's the only difference. But, while the SA players were resting for a few weeks, Ireland was playing.
Typical narrative its against us,so no suprises there@magbrian
Not exactly. Their international season is just starting. They had a break when the six nations was on. The boks have only had 3 games since the WC including yesterday.
It was a Kolbe no arms tackle on Bealham 🙂
You got it wrong bro the All Blacks have always felt the pressure which is the reason why we are always successful, every team wants to beat us and that's how it's always been.
always successful? don't be embarrassing, we are 3rd in the world for a reason.
Love this new rivalry 🇿🇦🇮🇪
Loved it guys all the season +tax.
Delusional tripe. Writing off the ABs after Razor being in charge for two games is just laughable. ABs would have won the RWC if it wasn’t for a certain TMO bottling it and not sending off the Bok’s captain after already sending the NZ captain off. Well done to Ireland though. Great team, fantastic manager & awesome game.
Yeah, all we heard was England, poor England, coulda, shoulda, woulda came up countless times. The end result that matters is the scoreboard after 80. It stands as ABs 2-0 after 2 tests. I found it quite irritating hearing about all the growth England has in their game, which is fair that may be the case, yes. But they clearly see this AB side for what it was after them 2 games. Shane Horgan was happy to throw some jabs in saying there's something wrong with us and our aura being gone, etc. We are just building. There will be innovation in our game to come. I have no doubt Razor wanted to keep things simple for this series and firstly win the tests. They did that. There will be things Razor won't be happy with, and I'm sure they will be addressed and that maybe including selection of the side or members of the wider squad coming in. It's funny, though, just 2 games, and we are written off even though we won them ugly, however you want to call it. If we win the Rugby Championship, it will be interesting to see what they say.
no one talking about sexton been missing. have we found a new dimension.... and depth... we building some great depth across the park. New Zealand November 10th in Dublin will be a cracker.
Maybe, it might take the ABs a little longer to reverse the decline of the last few years. I think we have the players all right, now we just have to find out if the coaching is up to it. . Of course most of our one-eyed fans will say otherwise!
Shaggy spot on about Frawley - needs more game time at our half please!!
I remember at the world cup the Allblacks beat Ireland
I also remember the Allblacks lost by one point to the world champs with a man down.
Tell me how do you guys keep saying Ireland and south Africa are the two best teams.
Just think about it for a second
It's the sane attitude that caused Northern hemisphere teams to underrated us at the RWC. The England early subs were because NZ fitness superior. England's water boys were top notch though! lots of fake injuries. Also refs pyschanalyzed the heck out of that last maul.Give it a rest
I don't think these are the two best sides but i think Ireland are better than SA 4-1 in the last 5 tests to Ireland.says that
@@Trajan2401so who are the best sides then
NZ used to be very good, but not sure anyone would rate them that highly now, they had an out of this world performance against Ireland in the world cup, near perfect and SA never put teams away, and have far too much respect for NZ considering how good they are themselves. I genuinely believe if Robertson can get this crop of players to anywhere near past glories it will be the biggest achievement of his career. Need to drop Ioane from 13 for a start!!
as a nzder no1 no2 don't care they deserve the rankings they earned it what I do care about is that the Abs management and squad are continuously work on their weaknesses their shortcomings because there are some including remapping and team synergy with today's blitz defense big ball carriers that can Shift will be interesting and we have a few
Well played Ireland - easily the two best teams currently. I was annoyed that the Boks didn't go for even one lineout/maul option out of those eight penalty kicks.
France with Dupont and Ntamack might have something to say about that
Is Frawley fourth choice 10 at Leinster? After the Byrnes and Prendergast? I've seen him play fb with Ireland but had no idea he was from Leinster cause Keenan is 15 there.
I thought were a great price at even money at +8 and 7/2 well done boys COYBIG COYGIG.
They forget one thing . All blacks have a new staff coaching and were only for 10 days so impossible to learn all the gameplan and combinations. Razor said them : do simple for the tests . They will work the rest in any position . Bothwick has a team settled… difference with the all blacks. It was not the 23 best all blacks but with more experience. In November, we will see the 23 best all blacks with many new youngers players : bell Darry lord sttiti lakai Iose Roigard ratima proctor love ..
In November, England will be vs all blacks beast scary !
New coaching staff, ABs lost their starting locks, halfback, blindside and 1st 5 from last year and have just come together as a team. Its crazy how much the ABs get overlooked when they win and its more how the opposition lost it
@@usedtoreadwordupmagazineYeah I think the rest of the world continuously gauge the ABs from 100 years of history and there dominance in world Rugby over the last couple of decades. It's only since 2015 when the ABs lost there once in a generation type of players the ABs started to drop a few tests here and there including to teams the ABs haven't lost too. We are always judged against them great eras so anything less than what we achieved from those sides we get pushed aside as a side in transition or a team that has lost its way and any victory we seem to have even if it's against a top northern hemisphere side, they see themselves bigger than us now and expect to beat us in there eyes. So when it doesn't happen it becomes a whinge debate about what they did wrong to apose to what we did better than them to win the game. We probably need to go through the whole year unbeaten to shift the narrative of people wiping out that negativity towards the ABs aura.
@tristanmckenzie1623 I think the ABs should put up a statue for Beauden Barrett!! They were very lucky and were playing a game of box kicking where there pundits have critized the Boks on so much.
@revenant2979 They may have been lucky but England didn't take there opportunities and the ABs did particularly when Beaudene Barrett came on. Plus England gave away too many silly penalties and the ABs had a malfunctioning lineout and still got the job done. The lineout won't malfunction forever under this coaching group
England can keep improving a lot.
Not sure what M Smith has to do to convince Tins he should be the consistent starting 10..
South African here. Congratulations to Ireland. Their performance deserved them the win, as bitter as it was for us to swallow. As for this "Best team in the world" debate, when the All Blacks were dominant between 2011 and 2015, we did not see them calling themselves the best because they knew they were the best and did not have to overtly say it. To my memory, only some Ireland fans/pundits have been suggesting that Ireland is the best team in the world, even when they exited the World Cup at a quarter-final again, and were no longer ranked first. In other words, Irish fans are the only persons to make this claim despite their team having not won a World Cup. For me, this is just an indication of their desperation to get the World Cup monkey off their backs. To be clear, there is no hate from my side - I just find it interesting.
You have it so wrong! Irish people are some of the most self-deprecating- it’s not Irish fans or pundits who are saying this, it’s the non-Irish press. And it’s just fodder for the trolls to have a go at a small rugby nation who are performing better than many of the bigger nations. The Irish never take anything for granted but know how to keep pushing themselves to be better.
From what I’ve seen, it comes from the media and not irish media.
Two ex players one Welsh and the other a Scot commentating on Irelands 6 Nations title describe Ireland as the best team in the world infuriating South African fans who attribute it to the Irish players and media. Then players got involved and what started as a nothing comment by a neutral then became a thing. Totally blown up by fans and content creators on social media
It just demonstrates how fragile and precious some fans really are getting upset over an argument you would expect to hear in a school yard between children
One for the ages 🤫
Carefull,,,,, if the the drop missed the discussion would be alot different how Ireland did sqandered a 10 point lead and great how the Boks are to come back
We don't be greedy.... we just want the next WC. Good 4 you Ireland 🇮🇪 GO SPRINGBOKS!
Whats the depth like in Ireland? How many changes are there leading upto the next world cup?
Ben Earls's passing was a killer for England. He threw multiple 'pop' passes that were high and slow and led to recipients getting belted and/or turned over.
The penalty for the obstruction was spot on. It was a text book case of a maul halting, then a break away group setting off with the ball carrier not at the front. Too often it isn't penalized as it should be.
What was an error from the ref (and the AR's and TMO) was in the lead up to the AB's first try, Ardie Savea goes into contact and has a knee on the ground. At this point he is technically tackled and must release the ball before regaining his feet but he carries on regardless and makes a lot of metres on his carry, which set things up the try. If ball carriers get the advantage of the tacklers being called to release when they barely get a knee to ground to be technically tackled, they can't at other times get a knee to ground and carry on as if it didn't happen. Otherwise the reffing was pretty good.
Wrong thread
Rassie has had 5 games against Ireland. It’s 4-1 Ireland. Just saying
Teams have been close to beating the AB's for decades. During the period where the AB's won 90% of their games, many went into overtime. Richie was captain then. In the last weeks the AB played for 80 minutes mostly poorly and won. What is wrong with England? How did they not beat a underperforming AB's in NZ two times? I don't get it 🤔.
Forget the Goal kick Shot Clock. World Rugby needs a Water Boy Clock 😂 Ireland are the better side. Nobody believed the ABs weren't the best in the world from 96' to 2011 despite failing at World Cups. Boks have 4 Rugby Championships in 28 years. They arent consistent enough.
SA are deserved world champs but in their last 5 games with Ireland, Ire have 4 wins and SA have ONLY 1 win. This Ireland side don't lose 2 games on the trot. I think they've only lost 3 of their last 24 games.
@@philbradshaw7650 rugby Championship started in 1996.
SA didn't deserve to win in 95 or 23 they never scored a try in either game and just rely on boring goalkicks.
Yes great sides in any sport don't just win titles they are consistent too SA aren't that's why they can't really be considered a great side because they lose too many games.
@@PB22559 Not to be pedantic, but what was the result of the match prior to 1st test v SA
I think possible that sa ab and England will all be much better in a year.
SA can refresh the team with great players in the pipeline.
AB start of new way if playing.
England still on climb from from a low point
Ah! The old aura myth is still going aye! They've just sent you packing and yet you're trying to convince us that they're rubbish. Nice try.
B.Barrett was awesome
Im surprised the panel dont see the problem with the English scrum. Its the main reason for their loss here in NZ. Before bedding M.Smith in they should be worried about the scrum more. They have the tools everywhere but the scrum
Boks, AB's, Ireland and France, they have second 15's who could beat, or run very very close to beating England, Scotland. Problems that Both England and Scotland face for different reasons, no strength in depth. Scotland simply has few players to choose from. England, well they do too, but thats because the prem is full of foreign players blocking the progression of home grown talent.
ERFU need to do something about this, but they won't, because the prem structure is broken.
I'm not sure about second string teams from the top 4 ranked teams being strong enough to beat England. Yes England are still developing but they lost to South africa in the rwc semi by a point , they lost in NZ by a point in the first test beat Ireland and lost to France. I think England's ranking at 5th is a fair reflection on where they are however they are getting there. . As for the premiership yes it does have foreign players however PR has restricted how many can be on a match squad . I agree that overseas players have negatively affected developing new players in certain positions like centres .
England are desperate for quality props but there is decent depth in in the looks and back row. Nine and ten they have options as well as the back three .
Certainly the premiership isn't perfect but more EQPs are playing in the premiership. As a tournament yes they dropped down to 10 teams but it has been competitive and their teams did well in the European Champions. It has problems but it isn't broken.
I wonder if Kolbe is considering taking up diving as a sport. He could try out for the olympics with that one at the end…..
As a Irish fan this was great. Though still confusing why the team can't turn up at world cups. They must surely learn from all world cups
the luck of the Irish? 😜🍀 Remember the ABs have gone to most RWCs (except the last) clear favourites and tripped up several times.
The better team won, well done to Ireland. The boks were very poor, there needs to be some questions asked over our selection to start at 9 now
Jeez the boks were a bit poor. Neither team was a bit poor. Ireland just outsmarted them a bit. What would you have said if we did not get those last 2 drops!!! The old story is you play as well as you are allowed, but that even discredits SA's performance.
@@raymonddixon7603 I would have still said that the boks played poorly because they did. Just like they did in the WC semifinal against England but got the rub of the green in that instance.
I fear the lions tour will be an utter demolition!
I’m English! Just can’t see Australia competing with us atm
Willis, CCS, Earl.
We are in a new era where there is not much between the top teams as we know. What this means is noone has to win every game to be #1...because numerous teams can beat another on any day. They simply have to win a good portion against good oppostion. Gone are the days of the dominance that the AB's had for so long where they won almost every game and were expected to win every game. If/when Ireland/AB's/France/England get to #1 it will be well deserved and the same principle should apply. Be at #1 and lose a game or 2 to the top teams should not suddenly mean you are not #1. The debate will always be there I suppose. Also, with teams changing up now, not sure how relevant it is at this point in time anyway.
C'mon lads - can you not put a spotlight on our magnificent future - the Under 20's & their World Cup Final WIN?????
Im gonna put a damper on it and say that the Croc-roll should have been a Red Card plus a yellow for Ryan.
Shane Horgan, you bad man! 😉How crafty of you to take the spotlight off Ireland (who have arguably been the best team in the world over the last 5 years) and insist that the Northern hemisphere need to get together to take NZ (your craftiness confirmed by the way the learned panel all piled on with your suggestion! 😊 Surely the rugby teams need to be focusing on taking down Ireland and South Africa instead! I've got my one-eyed AB supporter radar attuned to your shenanigans😅 Great show lads. Love the insightful banter.
Mike lol, we all know that the boks are the best, how many world cups have you won Mike? This is the lost we needed before the Championship, so bringing us back to perform, so no hard feelings about the loss. Our biggest rivalry is the All Blacks for over a 100 years now, and will always be our rivalry.
true, hope Ireland doesn't turn into your krypton side like France was for the ABs for many years!
Chasing the Sun 3 is going to start with the 2nd Ireland test. Watch this space
Why do you pundits keep harping on about the "aura". The All Blacks have officially lost it since 2007 according to your press.
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Lads, the elephant in the room is the front row. We are seriously underpowered in the props. Cant scrum cant win. England seriously need to address this or they wont win 6N or a WC
I can tell you what annoyed a lot of irish fans and maybe some players was the constant making fun of the song zombie… if anyone knows what that song is about you can’t just bastardise it, the dj in loftus hyping up the crowd when Casey was knocked out cold surrounded by medics. Ironically the disrespect from the dj again when he played emotional damage after Crowley missed a kick only for Frawley to seal the deal with a drop kick… im still baffled as to how world champions couldn’t score one try
Enjoy the win. Celebrate like it's the world cup final. It's the closest you lot ever get lol
We'll take the series as a loss because thats what champions do with draws.
See you next season..
Womp womp
Get over it. Sound like a child
Omg really. Zombie is just a song. You have the audacity to sing it to a country where many children due to economic circumstances struggle with hunger during the WC when South Africa lost. So give it a rest. LOVED the dj - witty! It's sport. Just celebrate man. And I dont think playing Coldplay "Sky full of stars" during Casey injury as disrespectful unless you wanted us to play something from church, a prayer perhaps? Enjoy the win. Well deserved.
Leave the support to the crowd.
This DJ nonsense is irritating at times.
England be patient, it will come. Love your 1st 5 he is world class & he's still developing, it will come... From an ABs supporter🖤🖤🖤
I really think the wreckless physicality we saw on Saturday is a race to the bottom, but if you don’t bring that against SA you are on the backfoot. When you compare the blood and impacts on Saturday to most of the yellow and red cards for head coontact we have seen in recent years, the idea of player welfare is turned on its head
The Boks have always been a super physical rugby team and to have a chance of beating them you have to absolutely contest their physicality.. Well done Ireland 👏👏.
Ireland need to win the first match. That's how to win QFs
Dom go do some gardening or something
lol relax
@@SmcdMcd-d2k 😀 Was already out in the garden. Sun was shining. Enjoying the first (and probably, last) day of summer!
@@DomDeDomyou know Dom Dom although Ireland haven’t won a world cup the are the most successful 6 nations team they have gone south and won series they have beaten every team on the planet in real time. The have been constant winners in the last 20 years , it never took them 18 months to become 5th in the world, and for a tiny nation with a tiny pool of rugby players they are very successful. Compare with England the richest rugby nation the second biggest pool of rugby players on the planet the best facilities and yet countries like NZ with tiny population small rugby pool of players embarrass them by how much they have won. England won a WC 20 years ago there team falls apart every 3/4 years they lie 5th in the world which is about right for them. But trying to compare to Ireland is BS compare apples with apples and you’ll see a major failing with England not Ireland .
Marcus 4 grubber kicks all wasted missed two tackles. Not sure smith is as good as England are making him out to be.
We have all been robbed of a 3rd test.
Bring back 3 test series
Delighted with the win, but SA are monsters. I think it was touch and go and I think us beating them with our attacking and breakdown game just did it. (Interesting! to hear Mike Tindall - who was shit and is not interesting at all), but without such a shit player I think England looked aright. Good centres for a change Mike!
Ah Mike put a lid on it,one point loss
Ireland beat the Boks up in the first half yet could not put the game away. But for a 50/50 long range drop goal on the 78th minute they would’ve lost the series 2:0.
So we didn't win then despite finishing a point up?
@@savagej2 - of course Ireland won. They won by a point from a 50/50 long range DG in the 78th minutes. Sort of how SA beat the ABs in ‘95 to win their 1st of 4 World Cups. 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Come on, any of the top 5 teams are awesome games.
To b the only team to beat the world champs at the world cup & then beat them on hm soil, win last 3/4 against boks. Irish r #1
And we can go around in circles with rankings and world cups and 6 nations, the 2 heavyweigts faced each other and ireland won, they r the best in the world today
be honest instead of making excuses tindle
The biggest rivalry is Bokkes bs ABs
In history of rugby yes.
But the last 3,4 years seems to be
SA v Ireland