The type of pain you describe is exactly what I'm dealing with. Thank you! I'd like to see more videos explicitly showing more proper archery form (draw, stance etc) from a doctor's point of view
Yes, please instruct us on how to balance our muscle groups to avoid injury. Worked jackhammer and air drills on construction for decades and rotators are really sensitive to use, especially if I do not warm them up before shooting. Warm up exercises would be appreciated before shooting. Good tip with the band.
Outstanding info. Been working thru shoulder pain for years and this info and others on drawing properly and rehabbing shoulders has been a tremendous help.
THANKS SOO MUCH! My right trap is insanely inflamed and sore. I’m learning how to shoot a recurve and I believe it’s the draw combined with moving my head forward cause that’s the apex in pain!!! Sore for 3 weeks now. I’ll try to correct this. Thanks again Brother!
Would like to see more of everything you mentioned! Thanks for the tips/info. I am having some of that shoulder pain when I workout. Will definitely be getting some resistance bands and trying out that exercise movement 😎👍🏼
Anything related to the front/stabilized shoulder? I have the exact pain and think its still the same issue, bicep tendon/labrum or even delt. I just got my first bow and definitely shot it a lot so I know its an acute overuse injury. Ive had bilateral labral tears for ~10 years and do a lot of rehab/rehab work, however you define it. I'm a S&C coach/AT for a living so I'm more curious if you've encountered this rather than the draw back shoulder.
I have a pain in my left shoulder (right handed shooter) it seems like it is the backside of my shoulder. Do you have any recommendations for the stabilizing shoulder?
Jonnathan, thanks for following along. That is very unique but I do see that periodically about 30% of the time it seems to be the bow arm. Rotator cuff exercises performed on both shoulders as well as good mobility drills can help. I have specific stabilizing drills I have people do a lot. I post things on Instagram regularly that could help. I will post a video on this soon for you. Until then I am happy to get you more detailed information. DM me on Instagram or send me an email. Thanks again!
@@fhpd350 hey sorry to hear that. So that’s your bow arm right? You can email me or sign up for a free visit on my website we can take a look at it. Often times it comes down to having the right flexibility so good stretches are important and the right stretches are important. Making sure you do a good warm up is recommended as well. Send me an email or go to my website or Instagram and let’s get you better. Thanks!
Im the same boat. Right handed shooter my holding shoulder behaving in a way i have never experienced before. Sometimes ill feel some discomfort on the front, sometimes in the back of my shoulder, and there are times i feel it in my tricep.
Will DHEA do anything to strengthen a weak rotator cuff? I have an old injury thats never fully recovered and all i want to do is be able to keep shooting my bow.
I had some pain while shooting with a buddy the other day kinda went away and forgot about it. Fast forward 6 hours I go to workout and while benching my shoulder gave out. now I can’t draw my bow and have terrible pain in general raising my arm above 90 degrees from my body I’m at a loss as it is hunting season and I’ve put lots of time and money into this years hunts. mind you I’m 23 years old was an all state wrestler and baseball player still in great shape.very worried I may have caused serious damage to my rotator cuff
Jared, Sorry to hear this. If you would like feel out the form found on my website and it will put you right in touch with me and we can take a look at it for you. All the best! Dr. Ward.
Yes. But where is it at in your bow arm? Elbow? Shoulder? Could be a few different issues. Feel free to give me a call or send a message on my website or message me on social media and I will get back to you sooner. Working on some bow arm videos too. Thank you for supporting me and this channel!
I’ve been told by an orthopedist that I have a torn labrum in my right shoulder. There’s too much weakness and my shoulder feels like it pulls out of joint when trying to draw the bow overhead. I’ve resorted to basically locking my right arm against my chest and raising the bow up and drawing while lowering it. It works without pain, but I’m sure this might cause other issues. Can just strengthening those shoulder muscles help?
Shoulder strengthening is paramount especially with a torn labrum. Let me know if you need any specifics and let me know what is going on with your shoulder would love to see some video of how you are drawing to see if we can work on some good form to make sure you are not injuring other areas.
This is the exact pain that I’m feeling but on my front shoulder rather than my rear/drawing shoulder. Would the same apply that you’ve explained here?
There is. I often see it at the elbow but it can happen further up the chain as well. Schedule a free consultation and let me look at it to get the details.
Last month I had a reverse arthroplasty replacement on my left shoulder. I'm doing better but I'm having a bit of pain when using my bands in a bow drawing manner. Will it get better with time and therapy or should I plan on selling my equipment (I do not want to think about doing that!)?
Canis Wolf I would hate to think about selling equipment. I don’t see a reason why you couldn’t shoot. It might take a good evaluation and training program to work the right muscles. Typically a reverse tsa is reserved for those with an irreparable rotator cuff. So we need to work the deltoid muscles. Hope this helps let me know if I can help in any way. All the best!
@@mtnphysio1440 Yeah, the shoulder was that bad, but more than that is that both of my shoulders need the same procedure (I'm having the right one done next year). I've been an archer for so many years and enjoy it so much, I just don't want to give up on it because of this.
@@mtnphysio1440 Thank you, that means a lot to me. My post-op therapy has been okay, but there's much they haven't gone over, and I feel sorta left out in the cold as to what I can do to get my strength back. I will get it back and I will continue my archery, but any good help will be greatly appreciated.
@@caniswolf3394 Certainly!!! Schedule a visit with me and let’s go over specific archery exercises that you can do. The key is to get an individualized program for you.
Because of not drawing correctly i got shoulder pain and involving my neck then go through my head and got me migraine just because of compound bow archery. Thats maybe the cause of me not drawing my bow correctly
I am sorry to hear that! Let me know if it is not getting better and if I can help you out? I am more than happy to take a look at it for you. Schedule a FREE visit with me on my website and we can start you down the right path to keep you shooting!
Yes that happens about 40% of the time. It can be quite the issue and that’s where I look at stability and other muscles to see tone and strength etc. let me know if you have questions. Message me on my website to take a closer look at it. All the best!
I have the same thing and my archery coach noticed that was rotating my shoulder forward instead of keeping it steady. It was a simple change that made a huge difference. Focus on not moving the bow shoulder/arm during the draw.
Fancy Electric, thanks for watching and reaching out. That definitely is a flag in my book I want to take a look at it and get a little back story. It could be an internal derangement or a number of things including how you draw and certain mechanics. Please either go to my website and schedule a consult or asks a question there so I have some way of getting in contact with you so we can get it looked at. You can also email me at drprestonward@mtnphysio.com
Yeah Seth that happens quite a bit. Depending on where the pain is changes what I do or prescribe. Reach out to me on the form on my website and even schedule a free consultation. Let’s get it better!!
The type of pain you describe is exactly what I'm dealing with. Thank you! I'd like to see more videos explicitly showing more proper archery form (draw, stance etc) from a doctor's point of view
I am putting together a library for everyone to access that includes this information. Thanks for the support Steve!
@@mtnphysio1440 I really appreciate your knowledge and videos. Keep it coming!
Yes, please instruct us on how to balance our muscle groups to avoid injury. Worked jackhammer and air drills on construction for decades and rotators are really sensitive to use, especially if I do not warm them up before shooting. Warm up exercises would be appreciated before shooting. Good tip with the band.
Take care of those shoulders! Let me know reach out on my website and I can show you specifics. Will do more videos too. Thanks!
Outstanding info. Been working thru shoulder pain for years and this info and others on drawing properly and rehabbing shoulders has been a tremendous help.
Thank you!!!
THANKS SOO MUCH! My right trap is insanely inflamed and sore. I’m learning how to shoot a recurve and I believe it’s the draw combined with moving my head forward cause that’s the apex in pain!!! Sore for 3 weeks now. I’ll try to correct this. Thanks again Brother!
Hmmm interesting. Well I hope you got it figured out. If you need help please don’t hesitate to reach out to me on my website.
Would like to see more of everything you mentioned! Thanks for the tips/info. I am having some of that shoulder pain when I workout. Will definitely be getting some resistance bands and trying out that exercise movement 😎👍🏼
Glad to know. Thanks for the great comment. I will be rolling out some videos over the next few months to gear up for 2021. Keep up the good work!
Anything related to the front/stabilized shoulder? I have the exact pain and think its still the same issue, bicep tendon/labrum or even delt. I just got my first bow and definitely shot it a lot so I know its an acute overuse injury. Ive had bilateral labral tears for ~10 years and do a lot of rehab/rehab work, however you define it. I'm a S&C coach/AT for a living so I'm more curious if you've encountered this rather than the draw back shoulder.
Yes It is very common to have it in the bow arm vs. string arm. Stability strengthening is very important.
I have a pain in my left shoulder (right handed shooter) it seems like it is the backside of my shoulder. Do you have any recommendations for the stabilizing shoulder?
Jonnathan, thanks for following along. That is very unique but I do see that periodically about 30% of the time it seems to be the bow arm. Rotator cuff exercises performed on both shoulders as well as good mobility drills can help. I have specific stabilizing drills I have people do a lot. I post things on Instagram regularly that could help. I will post a video on this soon for you. Until then I am happy to get you more detailed information. DM me on Instagram or send me an email. Thanks again!
Same. Except I have legitimate pain in my right shoulder on the back side and I'm a left handed shooter.
@@fhpd350 hey sorry to hear that. So that’s your bow arm right? You can email me or sign up for a free visit on my website we can take a look at it. Often times it comes down to having the right flexibility so good stretches are important and the right stretches are important. Making sure you do a good warm up is recommended as well. Send me an email or go to my website or Instagram and let’s get you better. Thanks!
Im the same boat. Right handed shooter my holding shoulder behaving in a way i have never experienced before. Sometimes ill feel some discomfort on the front, sometimes in the back of my shoulder, and there are times i feel it in my tricep.
Excellent video! I've been looking for a video that addresses this. Thanks!
Happy to help!
Heard you on the Gritty Podcast with @brian_call. Great information! I look forward to more!
Glad to know, that was a fun podcast oh and thanks for following along!
Great video, That's what I'm dealing with now.
Do you have a video (or planning to) that explains the best way to draw a compound bow? Thank you!
It’s coming! Stay tuned really soon. Thanks for the feedback what other videos do y’all want to see?
Will DHEA do anything to strengthen a weak rotator cuff? I have an old injury thats never fully recovered and all i want to do is be able to keep shooting my bow.
I had some pain while shooting with a buddy the other day kinda went away and forgot about it. Fast forward 6 hours I go to workout and while benching my shoulder gave out. now I can’t draw my bow and have terrible pain in general raising my arm above 90 degrees from my body I’m at a loss as it is hunting season and I’ve put lots of time and money into this years hunts. mind you I’m 23 years old was an all state wrestler and baseball player still in great shape.very worried I may have caused serious damage to my rotator cuff
Jared, Sorry to hear this. If you would like feel out the form found on my website and it will put you right in touch with me and we can take a look at it for you. All the best! Dr. Ward.
My chronic shoulder pain is in my extended arm not drawing arm. Any rehab strength Suggestions.
Yes. But where is it at in your bow arm? Elbow? Shoulder? Could be a few different issues. Feel free to give me a call or send a message on my website or message me on social media and I will get back to you sooner. Working on some bow arm videos too. Thank you for supporting me and this channel!
I’ve been told by an orthopedist that I have a torn labrum in my right shoulder. There’s too much weakness and my shoulder feels like it pulls out of joint when trying to draw the bow overhead. I’ve resorted to basically locking my right arm against my chest and raising the bow up and drawing while lowering it. It works without pain, but I’m sure this might cause other issues. Can just strengthening those shoulder muscles help?
Shoulder strengthening is paramount especially with a torn labrum. Let me know if you need any specifics and let me know what is going on with your shoulder would love to see some video of how you are drawing to see if we can work on some good form to make sure you are not injuring other areas.
This is the exact pain that I’m feeling but on my front shoulder rather than my rear/drawing shoulder. Would the same apply that you’ve explained here?
It certainly could be. It would be worth it to take a look at it.
Awesome man thank you!
Thank you! Great advice
Thank you!
Is there an injury associated with movements that occur after the release? That sudden expansion causing inflammation?
There is. I often see it at the elbow but it can happen further up the chain as well. Schedule a free consultation and let me look at it to get the details.
@@mtnphysio1440 Thank you for your reply.
Last month I had a reverse arthroplasty replacement on my left shoulder. I'm doing better but I'm having a bit of pain when using my bands in a bow drawing manner. Will it get better with time and therapy or should I plan on selling my equipment (I do not want to think about doing that!)?
Canis Wolf I would hate to think about selling equipment. I don’t see a reason why you couldn’t shoot. It might take a good evaluation and training program to work the right muscles. Typically a reverse tsa is reserved for those with an irreparable rotator cuff. So we need to work the deltoid muscles. Hope this helps let me know if I can help in any way. All the best!
@@mtnphysio1440 Yeah, the shoulder was that bad, but more than that is that both of my shoulders need the same procedure (I'm having the right one done next year). I've been an archer for so many years and enjoy it so much, I just don't want to give up on it because of this.
@@caniswolf3394 don’t give up. You can email me and we can get something together for you!
@@mtnphysio1440 Thank you, that means a lot to me. My post-op therapy has been okay, but there's much they haven't gone over, and I feel sorta left out in the cold as to what I can do to get my strength back. I will get it back and I will continue my archery, but any good help will be greatly appreciated.
@@caniswolf3394 Certainly!!! Schedule a visit with me and let’s go over specific archery exercises that you can do. The key is to get an individualized program for you.
Was wondering how often should i do this exercise and how many sets and reps?
I like 3 sets of 15
Thanks you and is it exercises i should do every day? Or only a couple times a week ?
I’d be doing them 4-5 days per week. 3 sets of 15
Thanks you very much , your the best !! 👍
Yes brother keep them coming
Thank you my friend, certainly will do that!
What a great video!!
Thanks Sidney, I appreciate the love.
new female non-competetive archer. bow arm is left arm left medial deltoid is painful. how prevent and strengthen?
Working on videos like that. For more information reach out to me via my website.
Because of not drawing correctly i got shoulder pain and involving my neck then go through my head and got me migraine just because of compound bow archery. Thats maybe the cause of me not drawing my bow correctly
works, thank you
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Great video
Thanks Isaac, it is all that UA-cam university! I appreciate the support.
Exactly my pain both rotator cuffs... I think.
I am sorry to hear that! Let me know if it is not getting better and if I can help you out? I am more than happy to take a look at it for you. Schedule a FREE visit with me on my website and we can start you down the right path to keep you shooting!
The shoulder that holds my bow is the one really bother me.
Yes that happens about 40% of the time. It can be quite the issue and that’s where I look at stability and other muscles to see tone and strength etc. let me know if you have questions. Message me on my website to take a closer look at it. All the best!
I have the same thing and my archery coach noticed that was rotating my shoulder forward instead of keeping it steady. It was a simple change that made a huge difference. Focus on not moving the bow shoulder/arm during the draw.
When im going to draw, my draw shoulder is like locking. Its paining when i going to full draw. My qus is How can i fix this problem sir?
Fancy Electric, thanks for watching and reaching out. That definitely is a flag in my book I want to take a look at it and get a little back story. It could be an internal derangement or a number of things including how you draw and certain mechanics. Please either go to my website and schedule a consult or asks a question there so I have some way of getting in contact with you so we can get it looked at. You can also email me at drprestonward@mtnphysio.com
I have pain in the shoulder I hold my bow out with
Yeah Seth that happens quite a bit. Depending on where the pain is changes what I do or prescribe. Reach out to me on the form on my website and even schedule a free consultation. Let’s get it better!!
Yeah I have pain right where he said...
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Thank you Sharon, I will have to post one about Griffs. :)
I’m right handed it’s my left shoulder that hurts not my right shoulder
I am sorry to hear this if it continues to hurt a consult would be recommended
X-rays reveal arthritis. I’m in PT.
Great! and best of luck!! Let me know if you need anything that is more sport specific!