Prime Zelretch (pre fight with Brunestud) is probebly the stongest. Based on the fact that he was capable of killing an Ultimate One and Nasu has hinted that Architype:Earth on that level, but assuming she has the same weaknesses as her model (Brunestud) then Prime Zelretch should still be able to kill her. Feel free to disagree. Pretty much everything that TYPE MOON staff say about power scaling is contradictory to other statements they've made.
I totally aggre with you and that my biggest problems with type Moon power scaling,plot Armor and how the power of the main protagonist happen to be the perfect countern of the Big Bad Guy that for some reason doesn't take him seriously because his ego is his only weakness
Ah it’s only tsukihime and FSN I was wondering where ryougi shiki was if i remember correctly nasu said that ryougi shiki was the only human who could realistically pose a threat to a servant without unusual circumstances stacking the deck in her favor, that being said he made it a point being a realistic threat and fighting on equal terms were two separate things
They are only buffing the 27 Ancestors, which doesn't say much considering the only ones we saw were the best of the best that makes the others look like nothing.
I would put crimson moon and zelretch below arcueid. Chaos is debatably higher than Sakura and Rin but I wouldn't put him above that. Cu chulainn is debatable
@Wholesome Viewer bruh you're wanking zel-kun he only has 2nd magic and root has all magic he literally almost got killed by crimson moon if it wasn't for zel-kun using magecraft+magic which is unfamiliar to crimson moon
@@polartang250 I don't think she can beat Full power Arcueid. I remember reading somewhere that only the Types (and some characters from a novel called DDD i think) were above her in the nasuverse
@@polartang250 This list is solid on my opinion, Aside from the fact that sakura low on the list. but aside from that I have no problem. And people who don't know how strong arcueid is then they must not know tsukihime. She's broken got it.
I would say Sakura is stronger than every servant and that Cu should be at least above Rider (many people say that he is actually stronger than Saber) Also it might be that Saber is stronger than Heracles, since she could kill him once when she was very weakened. Also her Excalibur also should take away at least 7 lives from Berserker since Caliburn also could do that.
that's not how power scaling works. Gilgmaesh was weakened + he didn't even use his full power cuz of his ego + Shirou's UBW counters Gilgamesh. Fate/zero Gil with EA would one shot Shirou and entire country with it.
Shirou is fodder compared to either Roa or Ciel. Kirei by the time of stay night is not stronger than Kuzuki in no way, shape or form. And lol Nero Chaos' "possibly way higher". More like definitely. Even with the gem sword of Zelretch Rin is still fodder compared to Nrvnqsr Chaos. Medea is also fodder to the good Professor. And it's not Cu Chulainn "could" be above EMIYA and Medusa, he SHOULD be. He has almost all the advantages against Medusa. And he actually defeated Archer once.
it should be in the US by now, you can check the american fate stay night webpage to see if it is going to be played in your state and in what movie theaters
Travis Touchdown yeah ryougi shill would take top easily with her root personality (By that I mean the root can possess her and the root has absolute power in that universe)
Tomas Curti Well type Mercury turns anything that goes near it and the root completely erases what touches it so if the root can do that I’m pretty sure root Shiki would easily kill a type because the root is the the root of everything even the types
@@aidanmahony7919 Void Shiki is kind of confusing. On one hand she said she can do some crazy stuff in the KnK epilogue and it makes sense since she's connected to the root. However ir was also stated that she can only fight defensively against servants (and yes this is Void Shiki). By being featless all we have are these statements which are just contradictory
Now remake the tier with fgo being a thing Jk dont having to power scale things like grand servant or whatever the fuck the beast are might be too much for anyone to handle but i thing the top few places are pretty easy to decide
Arc Sakura Nero Medea (tons of usefull scary hax if you look at her closer) Roa (meodp + curse of restoration, lol) Herc (with nine lives and no Iliya around) Emiya Cu Salter Medusa Gill (the single most overrated piece of crap in the nasuverse) Hassan (who fears no br br, because he tanked MhXX's yolo rhongobongo at summer fgo event) Saiba (exalibur goes br br) Kojiro Ciel Shirou Tohno Kirei (imho, his fight vs hf Shriou > Kuzuki's kneecap catch of Artoria's blade) Kuzuki I am right, you are wrong, that glossary where Gill is the strongest with no rivals blablabla - is just a roll of toilet paper. Fight me if you want
@Fred Duwe you sure, that Tohno can outspeed nine lives ? Shirou gains godspeed and Hercs physical strengh during that shit. I know Tohno and Shirou are close because Archer(Emiya) > Shirou, and Archer defeats Ryougi in extra but loses the 2v1 to Tohno and Riyougi teamwork in battle moon wars
@Fred Duwe actually, now that I think about it, I might put both Shirou and Tohno above Gill. After all, in the novel ubw route, Gill did use EA on Shirou BEFORE Shirou activated the ubw and still lost.
@Fred Duwe thanks, I admit, I underestimated Tohno, also forgot about his fight vs Nero in Arc's route to be honest, what do you think, is he capable of defeating Cu or Herc ?
Are you fucking stupid ? It's stated fate stay night. Not fgo. Also how to did you rank Gil that low ? Clearly you a hater. Gilgamesh does state higher. He's in the top 6. Enuma Elish beats 95% of the characters on this list. Ur list is biased in any way that you look at it
I honestlly don't agree with the list, you left out some character like the ultmite ones, unless your only talking about Tsukihime and fate stay without the involvment of the rest of the Nasuverse
I haven't played much of Tsukihime but what makes Arcueid so strong that she can beat Gilgamesh?Also how would she even beat him while he's spamming weapons?
Bruh what. Arcueid with 30% of her power is equal to Gilgamesh. She is literally immortal. She is immune to magecraft, and powers she has excperienced before. She can tear through buildings and steel with ease in an exctremely weakened state with her vampire claws. She has the mystic eyes of suggestion that allow her to control humans. She can warp reality, and is mad fast. Gaia, AKA the planet suplies her with necessary power to exceed her opponent no matter what. She is the archetype earth, which means that she is the strongest being on earth, and her power is planetary. She can destroy continents, and even create a mirror Image of the moon and drop it on earth. There is a reason she is number One. Beings capable of fighting her would be the other ultimate Ones, the magigians who have true magic ( Aoko and zelrech), true gods, the White titan sefar, Chaos, the 7 beasts of disaster, the 7 grand class servants (maybe), and void shiki.
Arturia Pendragon you disagreeing 12.5% of the list which automatically makes it bad? Plus she has time manipulation, elemental manipulation and reality warping plus she can drop a moon I don't see how Artoria, Heracles or Gilgamesh is winning.
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Prime Zelretch (pre fight with Brunestud) is probebly the stongest. Based on the fact that he was capable of killing an Ultimate One and Nasu has hinted that Architype:Earth on that level, but assuming she has the same weaknesses as her model (Brunestud) then Prime Zelretch should still be able to kill her. Feel free to disagree. Pretty much everything that TYPE MOON staff say about power scaling is contradictory to other statements they've made.
I totally aggre with you and that my biggest problems with type Moon power scaling,plot Armor and how the power of the main protagonist happen to be the perfect countern of the Big Bad Guy that for some reason doesn't take him seriously because his ego is his only weakness
@@zomegaexalpha4708 yeah
Ah it’s only tsukihime and FSN I was wondering where ryougi shiki was if i remember correctly nasu said that ryougi shiki was the only human who could realistically pose a threat to a servant without unusual circumstances stacking the deck in her favor, that being said he made it a point being a realistic threat and fighting on equal terms were two separate things
They're going to buff a lot of Tsukihime characters in the remake
I’m looking forward to it. I heard they’re releasing the near side of the moon routes this year
@@polartang250 me too
They are only buffing the 27 Ancestors, which doesn't say much considering the only ones we saw were the best of the best that makes the others look like nothing.
@@hardlightdemon8523 they buffed ciel arcueid and shiki bruh💀
@@bluu151 No they are all weaker compared to the original versions
Arcueid, & Saber Artoria,, my Favorite, characters & my best Waifus a lot,,,❤
Cu Chulainn and Nvsr Chaos higher.
Also where would you rank Zelretch/Crimson Moon Brunestud/Aoko if you added them to the list?
I would put crimson moon and zelretch below arcueid. Chaos is debatably higher than Sakura and Rin but I wouldn't put him above that. Cu chulainn is debatable
Nom aoko is tricky
Kelsey Johnson i thought Chaos had some crazy durability that would put him far above servants atleast durability wise?
@Wholesome Viewer bruh you're wanking zel-kun he only has 2nd magic and root has all magic he literally almost got killed by crimson moon if it wasn't for zel-kun using magecraft+magic which is unfamiliar to crimson moon
Aoko was stated to be stronger than Zelretch.
Lance should be higher he just gets shafted in the series
I have a few disagreements but this is your list and your opinion
Where would you rank ORIGIN Shiki 「 」from knk?
Walter Riveros 1
@@polartang250 I don't think she can beat Full power Arcueid. I remember reading somewhere that only the Types (and some characters from a novel called DDD i think) were above her in the nasuverse
@@tomascurti1753 keyword origin. Like the 3rd personality one.
@@swiggityswicc6127 I know. I was talking about her
Please make a list on the whole nasuverse including kara no kyoukai and other type moon works thanks.
Lovable Airhead Mile that will take weeks or months to plan
@@polartang250 I don't mind. As long as the list is great like this one then I wont mind waiting months for the video.
@@polartang250 This list is solid on my opinion, Aside from the fact that sakura low on the list. but aside from that I have no problem. And people who don't know how strong arcueid is then they must not know tsukihime. She's broken got it.
Lovable Airhead Mile oh yeah I’m aware of how OP Arc is. I think the author in one of his interviews admitted that she was stronger than Gil
Yep. Nobody messes with the queen!
The Princess of the True Ancestors stomps the King of Heroes! Totally!
Number one should have been void since she is the avatar of the root and on a conceptual level far surperior to arcueid
Cool list!
Hrik Sen thanks
Oh man, Gilgamesh is now really rage.
I would say Sakura is stronger than every servant and that Cu should be at least above Rider (many people say that he is actually stronger than Saber)
Also it might be that Saber is stronger than Heracles, since she could kill him once when she was very weakened. Also her Excalibur also should take away at least 7 lives from Berserker since Caliburn also could do that.
Steven Chico caliburn is weaker, Excalibur couldn't kill herc much at all in fate route because she was weakened.
Sakura isn't stronger than every servant. I'm pretty sure she isn't tanking Excalibur, Enuma Elish and gae bolg
Weak list missing Zelrich, Aoko Aozaki, easily in top 5 and Ryougi she can fight any servant.
Miss Blue Aozaki Aoko and Zelretch, and Altrouge Brunestus?
Which rank he/she be at this list?!?
But Emiya Shirou killed Gilgamesh. Means he should be higher rank then Gilgamesh
that's not how power scaling works. Gilgmaesh was weakened + he didn't even use his full power cuz of his ego + Shirou's UBW counters Gilgamesh. Fate/zero Gil with EA would one shot Shirou and entire country with it.
Shirou is fodder compared to either Roa or Ciel.
Kirei by the time of stay night is not stronger than Kuzuki in no way, shape or form.
And lol Nero Chaos' "possibly way higher". More like definitely.
Even with the gem sword of Zelretch Rin is still fodder compared to Nrvnqsr Chaos.
Medea is also fodder to the good Professor.
And it's not Cu Chulainn "could" be above EMIYA and Medusa, he SHOULD be. He has almost all the advantages against Medusa. And he actually defeated Archer once.
Ohh good thing he stated base gil. Or else i wouldve raged
Ay you know when they're releasing Fate Stay Night Heavens Feel
Atomic Void I know in Japan it was in Oct 14. Unfortunately I don't know about the u.s.
it should be in the US by now, you can check the american fate stay night webpage to see if it is going to be played in your state and in what movie theaters
why not add Kara no kyoukai characters?
Travis Touchdown yeah ryougi shill would take top easily with her root personality
(By that I mean the root can possess her and the root has absolute power in that universe)
@@aidanmahony7919 I think Arcueid and the Types are still above her
Tomas Curti Well type Mercury turns anything that goes near it and the root completely erases what touches it so if the root can do that I’m pretty sure root Shiki would easily kill a type because the root is the the root of everything even the types
@@aidanmahony7919 Void Shiki is kind of confusing. On one hand she said she can do some crazy stuff in the KnK epilogue and it makes sense since she's connected to the root. However ir was also stated that she can only fight defensively against servants (and yes this is Void Shiki). By being featless all we have are these statements which are just contradictory
As if the queen can be challenged at her peak.
what's the music's name?
Saber alter is far above regular saber and berserker
It's probably due to avalon
of course no one talks about ado edem
Good list 💪💪👍👍
Aoko Aozaki
Now remake the tier with fgo being a thing
Jk dont having to power scale things like grand servant or whatever the fuck the beast are might be too much for anyone to handle but i thing the top few places are pretty easy to decide
Yo, Arjuna Alter tops this quickly, lorewise.
Arc
Sakura
Nero
Medea (tons of usefull scary hax if you look at her closer)
Roa (meodp + curse of restoration, lol)
Herc (with nine lives and no Iliya around)
Emiya
Cu
Salter
Medusa
Gill (the single most overrated piece of crap in the nasuverse)
Hassan (who fears no br br, because he tanked MhXX's yolo rhongobongo at summer fgo event)
Saiba (exalibur goes br br)
Kojiro
Ciel
Shirou
Tohno
Kirei (imho, his fight vs hf Shriou > Kuzuki's kneecap catch of Artoria's blade)
Kuzuki
I am right, you are wrong, that glossary where Gill is the strongest with no rivals blablabla - is just a roll of toilet paper. Fight me if you want
@Fred Duwe you sure, that Tohno can outspeed nine lives ? Shirou gains godspeed and Hercs physical strengh during that shit. I know Tohno and Shirou are close because Archer(Emiya) > Shirou, and Archer defeats Ryougi in extra but loses the 2v1 to Tohno and Riyougi teamwork in battle moon wars
@Fred Duwe actually, now that I think about it, I might put both Shirou and Tohno above Gill. After all, in the novel ubw route, Gill did use EA on Shirou BEFORE Shirou activated the ubw and still lost.
@Fred Duwe thanks, I admit, I underestimated Tohno, also forgot about his fight vs Nero in Arc's route to be honest, what do you think, is he capable of defeating Cu or Herc ?
Are you fucking stupid ? It's stated fate stay night. Not fgo. Also how to did you rank Gil that low ? Clearly you a hater. Gilgamesh does state higher. He's in the top 6. Enuma Elish beats 95% of the characters on this list. Ur list is biased in any way that you look at it
@@fruktoid6950 Aint no way you're saying that shirou and shiki scale higher than Gil💀 did Gil use EA on SHIROU ?
HF 3 spoiler alert
Kotomine literlly kicked Hassan's ass how is he lower?
@@zzzomitted You made a good point, i hadn't thought about that. Well, looking very dumb once again, that's my life XD
What this ost
Funny how weak most of these are in the nasuverse
I honestlly don't agree with the list, you left out some character like the ultmite ones, unless your only talking about Tsukihime and fate stay without the involvment of the rest of the Nasuverse
I've only used the characters that were in and have used feats in only those visual novels
Name please
Herk is too high
0. Arcueid
1. Hassan I Sabbah (King)
2. Gilgamesh
3. Iskandar
4. Emiya
5. Artoria
6. Herc
7. Nrvrsqr(?)
8. Lancelot
9. Cu Chulainn
10. Medusa
I haven't played much of Tsukihime but what makes Arcueid so strong that she can beat Gilgamesh?Also how would she even beat him while he's spamming weapons?
@@zzzomitted Yeah 1 year later I can see how stupid I was
G.ral
Even sakura can beat Arceuid
Bruh what. Arcueid with 30% of her power is equal to Gilgamesh. She is literally immortal. She is immune to magecraft, and powers she has excperienced before. She can tear through buildings and steel with ease in an exctremely weakened state with her vampire claws. She has the mystic eyes of suggestion that allow her to control humans. She can warp reality, and is mad fast. Gaia, AKA the planet suplies her with necessary power to exceed her opponent no matter what. She is the archetype earth, which means that she is the strongest being on earth, and her power is planetary. She can destroy continents, and even create a mirror Image of the moon and drop it on earth. There is a reason she is number One. Beings capable of fighting her would be the other ultimate Ones, the magigians who have true magic ( Aoko and zelrech), true gods, the White titan sefar, Chaos, the 7 beasts of disaster, the 7 grand class servants (maybe), and void shiki.
You didn't read tsukihime do you? Because Arcueid is even stronger than Gilgamesh and she is F CKING immortal.
@@amidia5384 and she chopped by just a snotty high schooler
@@clairestanfield475 This is what happens when you don't know the context smh.
@@clairestanfield475 How can someone be so wrong and yet stupid at the same time?
FGO
Bad list
Arturia Pendragon how?
Because arturia,berserker and gilgamesh stronger than arcueid because in fate grand order number 1 is gilgamesh
Arturia Pendragon you disagreeing 12.5% of the list which automatically makes it bad? Plus she has time manipulation, elemental manipulation and reality warping plus she can drop a moon I don't see how Artoria, Heracles or Gilgamesh is winning.
But for me
1.gilgamesh
2.berserker
3.saber
Arturia Pendragon Berserker is only beating Artoria if she doesn't use excalibur or Avalon
All wrong
Shirou/Archer >>>>> Gilgamesh He killed him, bad list
Just plot.
Whos arcueud brunestud and how strong she is
Character from Tsukihime
@@zzzomitted or watch the anime that doesnt exist, its how i discovered type moon lol