For context, Sirino Vilakazi and co were all one yellow away from a suspension and Sundowns had a either 2nd of 3rd div side in the cup next. Pitso knew this
I know the laws of the game say stalling is a yellow, but I think by the time the third guy comes around, I tell them the next person to take more than 20 seconds is getting a red card.
I feel you. Sometimes time wasting is just way too effective and in those cases I really want the ref to overrule certain parts. The third guy out there time wasting gets a straight red. I wondered what would have happened if nobody had walked up to the corner. Is the ref just gonna book everyone if nobody goes to take it? The team still has the corner, you can't take that away can you?
@@SirEEf13 technically he could take it away because until the ball is back in play, he is allowed to change his call. I certainly wouldn't exoect it unless this becomes wide spread.
Celian Murphy actually said “every fuckin asshole at a Football pub in the city has been copying my peaky blinders hair cut and wearing burnt out sambas and lad boy vintage streetwear and preaching about Yerba Mate and i’m fuckin sick of it”
Pitso Msoimane is currently, according to his Wiki managing in Saudi Arabia. Left Sundowns some time ago, so this video is relatively old... but it is gold.
This was like five years ago. It's so long ago that Kekana has since retired, Mosimane is coaching in the Saudi league, and Bloem Celtic no longer exist. It's so long ago that Covid-19 was still confined to a petri dish in Wuhan.
In Australian Rules Football, delaying the game is either a free kick to the other team (if the team in possession is wasting time) or a 50m penalty (if the defending team is wasting time - kicking the ball away or not retreating from the spot or whatever). No need for yellow cards. Imagine a goalie wasting time at a goal kick and then the other team gets a corner, or a free kick for offside becoming an attacking free for the other team. In this case, the first time wasting would’ve resulted in a goal kick. No more shenanigans.
Being a South African who's a Sundowns fan it's funny seeing this again. I remember seeing a couple of years ago when it happened. It was funny then and is still funny now. Also miss Bloemfontein Celtic, great club in SA football history.
It wasn't done to waste time, it was done because the players in question were 1 card away from a suspension. The next game was a cup game against a 3rd division side, and the game after that was a top-of-the-table clash. It was also nearing the end of the season, so they needed all those players to be on a clean slate
Yeah, as if Dyche would miss an opportunity to pack the box and whip one in for the mixer for the big, meaty lads awaiting. He only ever tries to score from set peices.
this reminded me when Bill Belichick did pretty much this against the Jets also the fact that im Brazilian and been living with this kind of BS since ever in Libertadores matches (mostly agains Argentinians and Chileans) makes this feels tamed in comparison xD
An equally funny but more on-the-book timewasting already happened in the Rome derby in March 2011. Roma leading 1-0, an unusually cool Totti who was getting fouled all game kept the ball near the corner flag for almost 4 minutes, getting a couple corners, free kicks and a Radu red card in the process. Roma got a penalty (and another Lazio red card) less than a minute after Lazio got the ball back which Totti scored.
@@ethanderrick8486 Now that at least makes some kind of sense. If they struggle against the low-league side though it might turn out to be not as clever as they thought
@@Skinny_Popeye Fun fact, actually, Sundowns are the only South African team never to be knocked out of a cup competition by a team not playing in the top division. They've also won the last 6 league titles, and are currently unbeaten this season on their way to a seventh straight title. They are basically the PSG of South Africa. They didn't struggle against the lower league side at all.
You know whats a solution to this? Just give the other team a free kick or goal kick at this point. Fuck around? fine! Balls going the other way, heres a yellow for your trouble
Zealand, if you don't talk about that awful Ref that whistled Bayern - Arsenal and denied Bayern the most clear Penalty ever cause he thought "it was a Kids mistake" Imma be mad! Edit after actually watching the Video: I feel like the Pandoras Box already has been opened latest with the last 5 or so minutes of the Womens Euros Finale 2022 between England and Germany. After England went up 2-1 they just stood by their own corner, shielding the ball with like three players at a time. While the ball technically was in play, that easily was the most disgusting time wasting I've ever seen. (And yes, I hate Chloe Kelly to this day.)
I think the ref handled the situation incredibly well. I wish the rules would allow increasing punishment for consecutive time wasting. If you're on your 3rd attempt to take THE SAME corner the next guy to time waste is getting a red. The only possible escalation would be for nobody to walk up to the corner,. I'd really like to know what would have happened then. Is the ref just gonna book everyone if nobody goes to take it? Can he take the corner away from you and call goal kick? Is he allowed to do anything or is that actually a loophole to time wasting?
giving out a yellow card for time wasting doesn't solve the issue since, as the clip showed, you can just have a different player do the exact same thing, rinse and repeat as many times as you want/need. Now if teams got hit with a red card, you'd see how quickly they'd quit the time wasting shenanigans
So funny you mention the World Cup semi-final, as time wasting already impacted one. 2018 semi France v Belgium, the momentum was somewhat in Belgium's favor as stoppage time began in a 1-0 match. Mbappe is trapped in his corner and gives up a throw to Belgium, where he immediately dribbles the ball away, then picks it up, tosses it towards the goal, dribbles it a bit more and then as Belgium players come to physically stop him he cheekily back heels it towards the side. He gets a yellow for his obvious and ridiculous time wasting in a hugely important match at a hugely important time, but this punishment is literally pointless. If anything, the time taken to give the card to Mbappe is beneficial to France, as in the World Cup all card accumulation is reset after the semis. So as long as Mbappe doesn't do something monumentally stupid and get a 2nd yellow before the end of the match, he's not only not been punished in any real way, but his 'punishment' actually padded the time he was wasting
As a South African. When I heard the intro I instantly thought of Mamelodi Sundowns, but I was like, " No way Zealand is talking about thaaat situation"😂. Btw, the did this again in the AFL final, with a throw in.
Thank goodness for that spoiler alert. Oppenheimer is the movie I've been most desperate to watch in my entire lifetime. I have still not watched it yet and it hurts everyday
Make the game 60 minutes with two 30 min halves. Every time the ball goes out of play or play stops for some reason, stop the clock... No more time wasting, no more fake injuries. Many problems solved.
Another point proving why American football has a better rule set. In cases like this until the player makes a kick or pass, the time should be stopped. It isn't fun to watch, it isn't good for sportsmanship and just makes the whole game look like a clown fiesta.
Switching to pure playing time will solve this. This is an over the top example of course, but time wasting happens in every game. There are so many quality of game, enjoyment and speed improvements to the rules that can be made to solve the sluggish and trollish moments in any football game, but FIFA and the footballing world in general are so conservative that it just does not happen. Van Basten tried to do this from inside FIFA, but got nowhere. The only big change that happened relatively recently is the implementation of VAR and this has slowed the game down even further.
The captain kicking the ball away should have counted as the corner being taken. He has two more touches after that, which should result in a free kick for the other team, right?
at the third guy the referee might have needed to give 2 yellow cards one for the time waste for not taking the corner the other for time wasting leaving the corner
@@guguy00 i am sorry brother. I’m a red. i know heartbreak but i don’t know about spending billions on it annually. usually we just slip, hit a post, or have to constantly play against the refs - all of those fuckin things are free. except the ref one. usually united handles all financial transactions with refs.
The actual worst time wasting ever is you using this video to procrastinate from running
Lmaooo
Yes
Honestly though, you think you're done just because you ran a HALF marathon?
Jk ily that's way more than I could run rn
Just facts.
Diego simeone in the corner taking notes
He’s still in the corner.
For context, Sirino Vilakazi and co were all one yellow away from a suspension and Sundowns had a either 2nd of 3rd div side in the cup next. Pitso knew this
This just makes it even more brilliant.
I know the laws of the game say stalling is a yellow, but I think by the time the third guy comes around, I tell them the next person to take more than 20 seconds is getting a red card.
I feel you. Sometimes time wasting is just way too effective and in those cases I really want the ref to overrule certain parts. The third guy out there time wasting gets a straight red.
I wondered what would have happened if nobody had walked up to the corner. Is the ref just gonna book everyone if nobody goes to take it? The team still has the corner, you can't take that away can you?
Thank God you aren't a referee then.
@@SirEEf13 technically he could take it away because until the ball is back in play, he is allowed to change his call. I certainly wouldn't exoect it unless this becomes wide spread.
@@SirEEf13 I'd argue the second player in time wasting like this should be sent off. Send a direct message that this isn't going to be tolerated.
Second yellow if they run away from corner.
It is a new offence off time wasting.
Ref could do that, following the rules
Celian Murphy actually said “every fuckin asshole at a Football pub in the city has been copying my peaky blinders hair cut and wearing burnt out sambas and lad boy vintage streetwear and preaching about Yerba Mate and i’m fuckin sick of it”
That's crazy 🥵
Only sundowns could get away with this
I need this in FM
bring back FM
Pitso Msoimane is currently, according to his Wiki managing in Saudi Arabia. Left Sundowns some time ago, so this video is relatively old... but it is gold.
This was like five years ago. It's so long ago that Kekana has since retired, Mosimane is coaching in the Saudi league, and Bloem Celtic no longer exist. It's so long ago that Covid-19 was still confined to a petri dish in Wuhan.
I was going to do an fm save with celtic aswell 😂
what man city see when I've turned 'frequent timewasting' while 0-0 at the 87th minute
Nah, when we try to time waste on FM, the rigged engine makes us concede after the opponents bombard our goal
turn it on in the 5th min. see what happens. fuck it.
@2:29 We are either watching tiny men on a regular sized field, or that is the largest corner circle I have ever seen.
This game was in 2020, before the new approach to extra time
Seems like necessary contextual information to me...
Eddie Howe taking notes
In Australian Rules Football, delaying the game is either a free kick to the other team (if the team in possession is wasting time) or a 50m penalty (if the defending team is wasting time - kicking the ball away or not retreating from the spot or whatever). No need for yellow cards. Imagine a goalie wasting time at a goal kick and then the other team gets a corner, or a free kick for offside becoming an attacking free for the other team. In this case, the first time wasting would’ve resulted in a goal kick. No more shenanigans.
The beautiful game
I'm from South Africa. Yes. They take the piss like this weekly in our soccer league 😅
Being a South African who's a Sundowns fan it's funny seeing this again. I remember seeing a couple of years ago when it happened. It was funny then and is still funny now.
Also miss Bloemfontein Celtic, great club in SA football history.
Add the wasted time to the end of the game so they have to play it anyway, but with enough cards for a round of poker.
It wasn't done to waste time, it was done because the players in question were 1 card away from a suspension. The next game was a cup game against a 3rd division side, and the game after that was a top-of-the-table clash. It was also nearing the end of the season, so they needed all those players to be on a clean slate
It would still give them a mental edge tho
@goldenagelifestyle7121 I thought that was punished with an extended ban. There was a similar situation with barcelona recently.
Diego Simeone's dark arts are nothing to the legendary Pitso Mosimane. The boys were eating grass that day.😂😂
As a sundowns fan, this is actually an old game but I understand why they did it💛💙💛💙
My favorite part is when the third guy walks around the flag to waste an extra 0.4 seconds
8:56 not while talking about the SA league 😭
The brass necked audacity to request a substitution in the middle of all that. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
El Cholo and Dyche were salivating
Yeah, as if Dyche would miss an opportunity to pack the box and whip one in for the mixer for the big, meaty lads awaiting. He only ever tries to score from set peices.
I appreciate how well you're pronouncing the names of these teams😂
I mean he did manage in South Africa.
this reminded me when Bill Belichick did pretty much this against the Jets
also the fact that im Brazilian and been living with this kind of BS since ever in Libertadores matches (mostly agains Argentinians and Chileans) makes this feels tamed in comparison xD
More Cillian Murphy impressions please
It's truly a masterpiece
Absolute Cinema
The sad part is that we'll probably never see this match ever again because of what happened to Bloemfontein Celtics
The football is a reflection of the nation
An equally funny but more on-the-book timewasting already happened in the Rome derby in March 2011. Roma leading 1-0, an unusually cool Totti who was getting fouled all game kept the ball near the corner flag for almost 4 minutes, getting a couple corners, free kicks and a Radu red card in the process. Roma got a penalty (and another Lazio red card) less than a minute after Lazio got the ball back which Totti scored.
That’s just a normal game in Concacaf
By the end of that routine, they had to change their name to Mamelodi Sunups.
Best Cillian Murphy impersonation I’ve ever seen. Thought i was watching Oppenheimer again tbh
The craziest thing is that at the end of all this, they didn't play a short corner and do some legal timewasting near the croner flag.
Zealand has left his mark on the team LOL
This is just plain stupidity. 3 of their players got yellow cards and for what? For the 3 minutes to be added in extra time...
The damage has been already done
Apparently the guys getting booked were 1 away from a suspension and they were up against a low-league side in the cup next.
@@ethanderrick8486 Now that at least makes some kind of sense. If they struggle against the low-league side though it might turn out to be not as clever as they thought
@@Skinny_Popeye Fun fact, actually, Sundowns are the only South African team never to be knocked out of a cup competition by a team not playing in the top division. They've also won the last 6 league titles, and are currently unbeaten this season on their way to a seventh straight title. They are basically the PSG of South Africa. They didn't struggle against the lower league side at all.
@@goldenagelifestyle7121 ..I admit I didn't know that but there's always a first time 😉
Me watching this video's a good competitor
Yo that 2nd really acted like he was gonna kick that shit😂😂😂😂
You know whats a solution to this? Just give the other team a free kick or goal kick at this point. Fuck around? fine! Balls going the other way, heres a yellow for your trouble
the captain just running away before he got the yellow card took me out
If there were justice in the world, this nonsense would somehow manifest in FM when Z is chasing whatever cup final he's next in.
I log onto UA-cam solely to watch this man’s videos
Zealand, if you don't talk about that awful Ref that whistled Bayern - Arsenal and denied Bayern the most clear Penalty ever cause he thought "it was a Kids mistake" Imma be mad!
Edit after actually watching the Video: I feel like the Pandoras Box already has been opened latest with the last 5 or so minutes of the Womens Euros Finale 2022 between England and Germany. After England went up 2-1 they just stood by their own corner, shielding the ball with like three players at a time. While the ball technically was in play, that easily was the most disgusting time wasting I've ever seen.
(And yes, I hate Chloe Kelly to this day.)
11:52 group phase is gonna be hilarious
This is the new meta, just use squad depth to rotate through all of your suspended players 😂
Welocome to South Africa Pappie, SIYA KOLISI FOR PRESIDENT!! 🇿🇦
I think the ref handled the situation incredibly well.
I wish the rules would allow increasing punishment for consecutive time wasting. If you're on your 3rd attempt to take THE SAME corner the next guy to time waste is getting a red.
The only possible escalation would be for nobody to walk up to the corner,. I'd really like to know what would have happened then. Is the ref just gonna book everyone if nobody goes to take it? Can he take the corner away from you and call goal kick? Is he allowed to do anything or is that actually a loophole to time wasting?
giving out a yellow card for time wasting doesn't solve the issue since, as the clip showed, you can just have a different player do the exact same thing, rinse and repeat as many times as you want/need. Now if teams got hit with a red card, you'd see how quickly they'd quit the time wasting shenanigans
So funny you mention the World Cup semi-final, as time wasting already impacted one. 2018 semi France v Belgium, the momentum was somewhat in Belgium's favor as stoppage time began in a 1-0 match. Mbappe is trapped in his corner and gives up a throw to Belgium, where he immediately dribbles the ball away, then picks it up, tosses it towards the goal, dribbles it a bit more and then as Belgium players come to physically stop him he cheekily back heels it towards the side. He gets a yellow for his obvious and ridiculous time wasting in a hugely important match at a hugely important time, but this punishment is literally pointless. If anything, the time taken to give the card to Mbappe is beneficial to France, as in the World Cup all card accumulation is reset after the semis. So as long as Mbappe doesn't do something monumentally stupid and get a 2nd yellow before the end of the match, he's not only not been punished in any real way, but his 'punishment' actually padded the time he was wasting
As a South African. When I heard the intro I instantly thought of Mamelodi Sundowns, but I was like, " No way Zealand is talking about thaaat situation"😂. Btw, the did this again in the AFL final, with a throw in.
do we need a corner timer like in baseball pitches as well or what
Thank goodness for that spoiler alert. Oppenheimer is the movie I've been most desperate to watch in my entire lifetime. I have still not watched it yet and it hurts everyday
Pitso has always been destined for greatness
Start carding the manager then. Two times, yellow. Three times, red. Ridiculous lmao.
9:04 of course it’s planned bro It’s just a Yellow CARD😂😂😂
Would love more content from this league
Timewasting does not make sense since the ref can just allow the game to continue for longer.
This is what I expect from my players if I turn time wasting all the way up on fm
On 82 minutes to do that, I wonder what the rest of the game was like.
Make the game 60 minutes with two 30 min halves. Every time the ball goes out of play or play stops for some reason, stop the clock... No more time wasting, no more fake injuries. Many problems solved.
Zealand saying Bloemfontein correctly made this video
A ref wearing bright orange boots is very strange looking.
If they wanted to top this off they could have taken it short and stood with it in the corner
I would have informed the captain, that all subsequent time wasting (after the first) would be a caution and later a red card on him.
Best time wasting is this channel
3:50 yo the mls is gonna do this like immediately
Newcastle is def going to do this next weekend
I saw the thumbnail and knew it was SA immediately 😂
this video is just zealand timewasting a 2 minute video into 13 minutes
At this rate it will be the goalkeeper taking the corner. 😏
inb4 copyright issues
as a South African...I can confirm that this time wasting is higher quality than our football
Shoulda kicked it across the field to their own goalkeeper to grab another minute of time wasting 😂
Peak shithousery
I wonder if the ref just made them play out the wasted time in extra time anyways?
Put every second back on in stoppage
Adding the wasted time on the extra time clock would fix this issue. Although momentum would be in the bin.
South African here. Can confirm this shithousery is a unwritten law in our league.😅
PS. Pirates Suk azz 🤣
Another point proving why American football has a better rule set. In cases like this until the player makes a kick or pass, the time should be stopped. It isn't fun to watch, it isn't good for sportsmanship and just makes the whole game look like a clown fiesta.
Has been wasted not taking this Corner...
Switching to pure playing time will solve this. This is an over the top example of course, but time wasting happens in every game. There are so many quality of game, enjoyment and speed improvements to the rules that can be made to solve the sluggish and trollish moments in any football game, but FIFA and the footballing world in general are so conservative that it just does not happen. Van Basten tried to do this from inside FIFA, but got nowhere. The only big change that happened relatively recently is the implementation of VAR and this has slowed the game down even further.
Why not just take a short corner and hold the ball in the corner, or do it as well
Can anyone link the tweet?
Looks like this is an older video, pitso mosimane still leading sundowns
I used to touch the ball off and stand over it
Ref should've just hand out the yellows reverse the decision to a goal kick
at some point, the ref should be allowed to actually stop the clock
would fix the game. Rugby does it and it works fine.
Just add on another 2 and a bit minutes
@@safcjcp just stopping the clock makes a whole lot less of a mess.
Yeah either stop the clock or just cancel their free kick and give the other team one
@@daryanguy why change the laws of the game for something already covered by the laws of the game
If the ball isn't in play then the ref just adds the time on right??
Apoplectic is your word of the day
Imagine this guy talking about time wasting.
The captain kicking the ball away should have counted as the corner being taken. He has two more touches after that, which should result in a free kick for the other team, right?
at the third guy the referee might have needed to give 2 yellow cards one for the time waste for not taking the corner the other for time wasting leaving the corner
zealeand goat
If you liked this then you really should check it out the ways of “catimba” in the copa libertadores
Imagine this happened in the Turkish League
zealand i respectfully disagree- the WORST time wasting of all time is being a chelsea supporter
As a Chelsea supporter I have never been so offended by a statement I agree with and feel on a regular basis
@@guguy00 i am sorry brother. I’m a red. i know heartbreak but i don’t know about spending billions on it annually. usually we just slip, hit a post, or have to constantly play against the refs - all of those fuckin things are free. except the ref one. usually united handles all financial transactions with refs.
The time will all be added back on at the end anyway if the referee is half decent. Not only was it petty and stupid, but it was completely pointless.
That team is mamelodi sundowns. And they dont like to rotate that much. They play in almost all the big competions so i get it. Theyre tired.
Any chance that referees are given the option to award the other team possession instead of a card for time wasting?
Me using all my pauses to mess with my opponent in FIFA cause I know they are better than me