Hi Z, it wasn't fourth division btw. It's like 9th division. The name of the division is de vierde klasse, fourth class in English, so it's basically just sunday league, still funny tho
They do a similar thing in England outside of the football league were leagues are referred to as "Level 8" - but what it actually means is 8 levels below the National League. So it's really the 13th tier.
Just for anyone confused about the Dutch system, this didn't happen in the 4th Division, it happened in the 4th Klasse (which is the 9th level). First, there are 5 'national' levels. 1. Eredivisie 2. Eerste Divisie (also called KKD - still fully professional) 3. Tweede Divisie (officially Amateur, but is more like semi-pro - there is no pro/rel with Eerste Divisie) 4. Derde Divisie 5. Vierde Divisie After that there are 5 'district'/regional levels. 6. Eerste Klasse 7. Tweede Klasse 8. Derde Klasse 9. Vierde Klasse < this is where this happened 10. Vijfde Klasse
@@prplt Its been a big debate for quite a while now, but in essense: there are very strict restrictions/rules the professional clubs have to follow, and none of the 'amateur' (semi-pro) teams will be able to follow them, or don't want to adapt their business model to such an extent to make it possible. There have been a couple of these teams that have tried to make the jump (most recently Achilles '29), but all have failed, often went bankrupt, and fell down several divisions - whereas before they were some of the biggest amateur clubs in NL. Like I said, still a big debate surrounding it - but very little actual progress is being made, unfortunately.
One minor note. St.George and De Valken play in the fourth class, not the fourth division. The forth class is the sixth tier of Dutch amateur football, or the eight tier (out of nine) of all Dutch football.
@@Undivided-X. It's: Eredivisie Keuken Kampioen Divisie (First Division) Betnation Division (Second Division) Third Division Fourth Division First Class Second Class Third Class Fourth Class Fifth Class Most clubs play Second, Third or Fourth Class. You would get paid (a little) regularly from Fourth Divison and upwards I would say.
@@Undivided-X Well, considering our first division is called Eredivisie (honour division), then our second division is called Eerste Divisie (first division), I'm not surprized the numbering of our divisions is insanely confusing. Then again, the English league system goes from Premier League to Championship to League One, so at least we're not alone in confusing numbering of our football divisions.
@@Undivided-X Yes, the third division, and then the highest amateur division... The second division. It is practically impossible to move between the second division and the first division (which is the second professional division btw)
I am Dutch and as soon as I saw the name of the ref (Jan Smit), I already started laughing because its like one of the most common surnames & last names in Dutch. Also very ironically, the most famous ''Jan Smit'' in our country is a pop/folk type of singer, so I guess this ''ref'' could form a good duet with him 😅
Hi Zealand, do you remember the video you made about Roda JC about celebrating promotion to early? Well, they lost the last game against Groningen, finishing 3rd and going to the playoffs. The first match was against NAC Breda away, who finished eighth in the league, where they got beaten 3-1, but in the return match at home they lost with a staggering 0-5 and got knocked out in the playoffs, which means that Roda JC, who celebrated promotion te early, stays in the Dutch second tier!
13:58 - "KNVB has not done any research and only watched one video" Brooooo~ so, lets say I steal from a bank, and they catch me on video, face and everything... I'd love to see how far "you guys have only watched one video" would get me in court xD Plus, he admits to doing this with multiple teams in the past, but "come on bro it's only ONE video, y'all haven't done your research... of the things I've literally just told you, myself, that I've done in the past!"
@@lisandrovalencia1091u mean Leicester right? That isnt really comparable. Leverkusen is Top 4 in germany after Bayern Dortmund ans Leipzig. While its ofc a big surprise that they win, Leicester was a waaay bigger Sensation.
I used to play football in the Netherlands as a kid at a very low level. The referees were sometimes, if not always, from the home club. I suspect it's the same thing here since this appears to be at a pretty low level. Edit: The further I get into the video the more insane it gets 😂 "Going up the beatbridge" is the direct translation of a Dutch saying that means that something's going to go wrong/is going wrong. I'm not sure it's being used in the right context here. It could be a local version of the saying that has a slightly different meaning. I think he might have confused it with the saying "they can get on my back" which means something like "fuck you, you're/that's crazy". Tried my best to translate that. These things tend to change a bit depending on where you're from or only exist in certain parts of the country.
Yup, kinda a synonym to "ze kunnen de kolere krijgen" basically saying "they can go and fuck off". Soooo it is clear to say that he wasn't all that happy about it
Talk about Gremio, Internacional and Juventude. Brazilian clubs that cant play Libertadores or Brazilian Championship because their city (Porto Alegre) is literally under water.
Yo Zealand, you should do a video on New Zealands A League team Wellington Pheonix, a team which everyone thought we would get last ended up nearly getting to the grand final after scoring in the 99th min at home infront of a record crowd.
I stopped following the A-League for the season after my Wanderers bottled it royally when they started off so well (and blew the Sydney Derbies so embarrassingly I couldn’t believe it) but I was rooting for Wellington Phoenix to potentially go all the way.
Eredivisie, Eerste Divisie, Tweede Divisie, Derde Divisie, Vierde Divisie, Eerste Klasse, Tweede Klasse, Derde Klasse, Vierde Klasse. 9th tier and there's four more levels below. So this is deep into the Dutch Amateur leagues.
14.03 "I will no longer get on my knees like I did two years ago." What did this guy do for which he had to make an abject apology two years ago in order to be allowed to continue refereeing? Seems as though he has a track record of wrongdoing.
Haha Jan Smit?! Schaam je deaudt. PLEASE @KNVB dit zet ons ten schande. Weg ermee, en opnieuw spelen! (Punish asap) top thx ciao The song he was singing celebrating: Duizenden strepen Duizenden bomen Ben in gedachten Ben aan het dromen Je zit in mijn auto En voel me bevrijd Daarin zit mijn leven Ik heb alle tijd Je zit zonder zorgen Nergens aan denken Even maar stoppen Om bij te tanken Flitsende lampen Een motor die draait Toch waarschuwt een haan In je hoofd die kraait Ik weet nu Dat er een engelbеwaarder bestaat Je kunt haar niеt zien Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat Ik weet nu ook Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let Ik kan het weten Ik ben er zelf eens door gered Tien kilometer Dan ben je weer thuis Je ziet in de verte Het dak van je huis Je voelt dat je slaap hebt Toch rij je maar door Een engelbewaarder Die bijna verloor En dan zie je bloemen Alles is wit Het is toch je moeder Die naast je zit Je kijkt in haar ogen En ziet dan een traan Alsof ze wil zeggen Voorzichtig voortaan Ik weet nu Dat er een engelbewaarder bestaat Je kunt haar niet zien Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat Ik weet nu ook Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let Ik kan het weten Ik ben er zelf eens door gered Duizenden strepen Duizenden bomen Ben in gedachte Ben aan het dromen Je zit in mijn auto En voel me bevrijd Daarin zit mijn leven Ik heb alle tijd Ik weet nu Dat er een engelbewaarder bestaat Je kunt haar niet zien Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat Ik weet nu ook Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let Ik kan het weten Ik ben er zelf eens door gered Ik kan het weten Ik ben er zelf eens door gered
Too many people think they can't do anything wrong in this world. Like a pair of former co-workers of mine. One laughed when a lawyer said he should tell people to bully other workers if they do something wrong. The other didn't see a problem with inviting young women who worked under him at events back to his hotel room for a drink (we're talking like new hire/grunt being invited by the District Manager kind of separation). I still never can understand them.
@@iambicpentakill971 Ironically no... at least in the first part. They grew up working stuff like food service and whatnot. Things made sense with the fact that he apparently can't go back because he burned like all his bridges with that line of work. The second was just clueless and legit didn't understand why it would be a big deal. The meaning was never sexual but the connotation from the situations made it awkward.
It's not fourth division it goes eredivisie eerste divisie (first divsion) tweede divisie (second) third division head class first class second class third class fourth class, this is where it happened fully amateur it doesn't have neutral assistants that happens until the head klasse fifth class first two divisions are pro, second and third divisions are partially semi pro. hmu if you want more info on the Dutch football system Oh btw I referee youth teams in the area this happened so if you need more context I can definitely provide some
Man City's representatives factually handed a huge wad of cash to Premier League referees this season. I agree with Zealand's first statement, no matter the context, should be disqualified. Especially when those refs went on to make a series of mistakes that all favoured Man City in the title race they won
There was no footage of the ref and VAR team from the 2022 Championship play-off final celebrating with the Scab Cheats... but I'm convinced it happened.
I don’t know about that; him wearing different jerseys for these vids just feels right. Would be cool if the jerseys changed depending on the topic of the video tho
This is problem all over Europe. Refs grow up fans of teams and their biases will always be there. It is a problem that will always exist as long as the human factor does. VAR needs automation to remove the human element. The technology exists but they don’t want to use it. Offsides issues were not a big deal in the World Cup. They are almost every week in the EPL. Goal line technology removes all questions over whether the ball crossed the line or not. It shouldn’t be an issue for leagues making billions to invest in better technology.
gave 4 red cards to the losing team and celebrated the champions when they own the league AND added 15 minutes of extra time??? smells like collusion to me.
this isnt really the refs fault. like sure theres job integrity but ur not gonna convict ur wife of murder if ur the judge (metaphorically i hope whoever reading this would turn in their wife unless they genuinely believed the wife was right to do so) but this is on the league. like at the 4th division u probably dont really think of this happening but like they should bc people r really passionate
Dutch fourth division? Whahaha no way... This was in one of the lowest amateur leagues, called vierde klasse (fourth class). Eredivisie Eerste divisie Tweede divisie Derde divisie Vierde divisie Eerste klasse Tweede klasse Derde klasse Vierde klasse... So it's ninth tier
If you plan to become a professional sports official of any kind you have to commit to a life of neutrality and reject anything that could seem impartial. It's got to be part of the job and if you're not willing to take that on than you need to be in a different line of work.
Easy solution: just ban him from officialiating St. George's games. I don't really see the big problem when the losing side agreed with the referee decisions and his actions after the game are not even banned/punishable for refs (+ hhe's done that with other teams too).
We saw Zealand becoming the football penguinz0 before FM 25
Moist Zealikal
Florida's pride.
He can't run away from it.
That’s exactly how I described him to my gf. That’s exactly what this channel is. Just a little more emotion
Thank god this gets commented on every video or I wouldn't have noticed.
Also he's not nearly as unfunny
...we find the defendant guilty on all charges.
*Judge starts celebrating*
Hi Z, it wasn't fourth division btw. It's like 9th division. The name of the division is de vierde klasse, fourth class in English, so it's basically just sunday league, still funny tho
They do a similar thing in England outside of the football league were leagues are referred to as "Level 8" - but what it actually means is 8 levels below the National League. So it's really the 13th tier.
@@VillaFanDan92do you mean Step 8? It's the 8th step of the non league system, i.e. level 12
Below division (divisie) we have klasse.
@@unbillyvebil I'm dutch i know
Ayy fellow dutchies watching Zealandism
Just for anyone confused about the Dutch system, this didn't happen in the 4th Division, it happened in the 4th Klasse (which is the 9th level).
First, there are 5 'national' levels.
1. Eredivisie
2. Eerste Divisie (also called KKD - still fully professional)
3. Tweede Divisie (officially Amateur, but is more like semi-pro - there is no pro/rel with Eerste Divisie)
4. Derde Divisie
5. Vierde Divisie
After that there are 5 'district'/regional levels.
6. Eerste Klasse
7. Tweede Klasse
8. Derde Klasse
9. Vierde Klasse < this is where this happened
10. Vijfde Klasse
Topper ❤
how come there's no pro/rel 🤯
@@prplt Its been a big debate for quite a while now, but in essense: there are very strict restrictions/rules the professional clubs have to follow, and none of the 'amateur' (semi-pro) teams will be able to follow them, or don't want to adapt their business model to such an extent to make it possible. There have been a couple of these teams that have tried to make the jump (most recently Achilles '29), but all have failed, often went bankrupt, and fell down several divisions - whereas before they were some of the biggest amateur clubs in NL.
Like I said, still a big debate surrounding it - but very little actual progress is being made, unfortunately.
One minor note. St.George and De Valken play in the fourth class, not the fourth division. The forth class is the sixth tier of Dutch amateur football, or the eight tier (out of nine) of all Dutch football.
So there are things above the first class in the amateur leagues?
@@Undivided-X. It's:
Eredivisie
Keuken Kampioen Divisie (First Division)
Betnation Division (Second Division)
Third Division
Fourth Division
First Class
Second Class
Third Class
Fourth Class
Fifth Class
Most clubs play Second, Third or Fourth Class. You would get paid (a little) regularly from Fourth Divison and upwards I would say.
@@Undivided-X Well, considering our first division is called Eredivisie (honour division), then our second division is called Eerste Divisie (first division), I'm not surprized the numbering of our divisions is insanely confusing. Then again, the English league system goes from Premier League to Championship to League One, so at least we're not alone in confusing numbering of our football divisions.
@@Undivided-X Yes, the third division, and then the highest amateur division... The second division. It is practically impossible to move between the second division and the first division (which is the second professional division btw)
Its not good when your country supplies a youtuber of this (mild) magnitude with all his stories this month
I am Dutch and as soon as I saw the name of the ref (Jan Smit), I already started laughing because its like one of the most common surnames & last names in Dutch. Also very ironically, the most famous ''Jan Smit'' in our country is a pop/folk type of singer, so I guess this ''ref'' could form a good duet with him 😅
It's basically John Smith but in Dutch, right?
@@Undivided-XIt's exactly John Smith in Dutch.
Yeah, Jan Smit, the guy who commentated on Eurovision and co-hosted it in the Netherlands!
Hi Zealand, do you remember the video you made about Roda JC about celebrating promotion to early? Well, they lost the last game against Groningen, finishing 3rd and going to the playoffs. The first match was against NAC Breda away, who finished eighth in the league, where they got beaten 3-1, but in the return match at home they lost with a staggering 0-5 and got knocked out in the playoffs, which means that Roda JC, who celebrated promotion te early, stays in the Dutch second tier!
Fantastic follow up, thx.
Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?
As a Dutch person, this is certainly the best channel to watch while getting stoned. Bro lifted on.
Same feeling as an American. Good vibes
13:58 - "KNVB has not done any research and only watched one video"
Brooooo~ so, lets say I steal from a bank, and they catch me on video, face and everything... I'd love to see how far "you guys have only watched one video" would get me in court xD
Plus, he admits to doing this with multiple teams in the past, but "come on bro it's only ONE video, y'all haven't done your research... of the things I've literally just told you, myself, that I've done in the past!"
He should have also had a drink with the losers. That would have made things better. 😀
Frog 🐸 🐸 🐸 🐸
Its official, Bayern Munich finish 3rd in the Bunesliga. Kane made them finish third in a 2 horse race
not the first time it happened to kane either LMAO
@@jai-sukhdhesi8758ofc the winner of that race was also a huge underdog
15/16 season vibes
@@lisandrovalencia1091u mean Leicester right? That isnt really comparable. Leverkusen is Top 4 in germany after Bayern Dortmund ans Leipzig. While its ofc a big surprise that they win, Leicester was a waaay bigger Sensation.
Its not a 2 horse race. Its a 1 horse race. Bayern is the only horse and they still ended 3th.
I used to play football in the Netherlands as a kid at a very low level. The referees were sometimes, if not always, from the home club. I suspect it's the same thing here since this appears to be at a pretty low level.
Edit: The further I get into the video the more insane it gets 😂
"Going up the beatbridge" is the direct translation of a Dutch saying that means that something's going to go wrong/is going wrong. I'm not sure it's being used in the right context here. It could be a local version of the saying that has a slightly different meaning. I think he might have confused it with the saying "they can get on my back" which means something like "fuck you, you're/that's crazy". Tried my best to translate that. These things tend to change a bit depending on where you're from or only exist in certain parts of the country.
Yup, kinda a synonym to "ze kunnen de kolere krijgen" basically saying "they can go and fuck off". Soooo it is clear to say that he wasn't all that happy about it
Talk about Gremio, Internacional and Juventude. Brazilian clubs that cant play Libertadores or Brazilian Championship because their city (Porto Alegre) is literally under water.
Michael Oliver is at least smart enough to not get caught at City's trophy tour
Insane Zealand makes video before running
Yo Zealand, you should do a video on New Zealands A League team Wellington Pheonix, a team which everyone thought we would get last ended up nearly getting to the grand final after scoring in the 99th min at home infront of a record crowd.
I stopped following the A-League for the season after my Wanderers bottled it royally when they started off so well (and blew the Sydney Derbies so embarrassingly I couldn’t believe it) but I was rooting for Wellington Phoenix to potentially go all the way.
Pepe Guardiola disapproves of this ref
yeah this is insane bro got paid
Don't be mad he chasing the bag
PGMOL says hold my beer!
The only words that I have, are that I'm at a loss for words. Wow
and we thought NFL officials love affair with Tom Brady was bad
NFL has far fewer issues with replay than world football. They have better technology. They still have some but it is much more reliable that VAR.
Zealand can you do a video on the sick kick flip I did today
Is there video of the ref partying with you afterwards?
@@williamcross210 Does my mom count?
Eredivisie, Eerste Divisie, Tweede Divisie, Derde Divisie, Vierde Divisie, Eerste Klasse, Tweede Klasse, Derde Klasse, Vierde Klasse. 9th tier and there's four more levels below. So this is deep into the Dutch Amateur leagues.
He should have also went to have a drink with the other team, commiserate with them over a beer. That's what he should have done to look unbiased. 😀
Land of the free home of the high 😂😭
Thanks for picking up the tweets I tagged you in. Wanted your take on this insane story!
Z with the Zoman fc jersey🇨🇮
14.03 "I will no longer get on my knees like I did two years ago." What did this guy do for which he had to make an abject apology two years ago in order to be allowed to continue refereeing? Seems as though he has a track record of wrongdoing.
this guy has a very gen z attitude for a 61 year old
Haha Jan Smit?! Schaam je deaudt. PLEASE @KNVB dit zet ons ten schande. Weg ermee, en opnieuw spelen! (Punish asap) top thx ciao
The song he was singing celebrating:
Duizenden strepen
Duizenden bomen
Ben in gedachten
Ben aan het dromen
Je zit in mijn auto
En voel me bevrijd
Daarin zit mijn leven
Ik heb alle tijd
Je zit zonder zorgen
Nergens aan denken
Even maar stoppen
Om bij te tanken
Flitsende lampen
Een motor die draait
Toch waarschuwt een haan
In je hoofd die kraait
Ik weet nu
Dat er een engelbеwaarder bestaat
Je kunt haar niеt zien
Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat
Ik weet nu ook
Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let
Ik kan het weten
Ik ben er zelf eens door gered
Tien kilometer
Dan ben je weer thuis
Je ziet in de verte
Het dak van je huis
Je voelt dat je slaap hebt
Toch rij je maar door
Een engelbewaarder
Die bijna verloor
En dan zie je bloemen
Alles is wit
Het is toch je moeder
Die naast je zit
Je kijkt in haar ogen
En ziet dan een traan
Alsof ze wil zeggen
Voorzichtig voortaan
Ik weet nu
Dat er een engelbewaarder bestaat
Je kunt haar niet zien
Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat
Ik weet nu ook
Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let
Ik kan het weten
Ik ben er zelf eens door gered
Duizenden strepen
Duizenden bomen
Ben in gedachte
Ben aan het dromen
Je zit in mijn auto
En voel me bevrijd
Daarin zit mijn leven
Ik heb alle tijd
Ik weet nu
Dat er een engelbewaarder bestaat
Je kunt haar niet zien
Als ze zachtjes tegen je praat
Ik weet nu ook
Dat zo'n engelbewaarder op je let
Ik kan het weten
Ik ben er zelf eens door gered
Ik kan het weten
Ik ben er zelf eens door gered
Guardian angel is incredibly popular so it's normal
Michael Oliver walked so Jan Smit could run.
Too many people think they can't do anything wrong in this world. Like a pair of former co-workers of mine. One laughed when a lawyer said he should tell people to bully other workers if they do something wrong. The other didn't see a problem with inviting young women who worked under him at events back to his hotel room for a drink (we're talking like new hire/grunt being invited by the District Manager kind of separation). I still never can understand them.
Gonna guess that they grew up rich and never heard "no"
@@iambicpentakill971 Ironically no... at least in the first part. They grew up working stuff like food service and whatnot. Things made sense with the fact that he apparently can't go back because he burned like all his bridges with that line of work. The second was just clueless and legit didn't understand why it would be a big deal. The meaning was never sexual but the connotation from the situations made it awkward.
This is crazy
He’s what we Dutch people call a ‘tokkie’
I want to see this happening in the top league one day LMAO imagine the shithousery
Most normal Real Madrid referee.
When Bundesliga last Matchday reaction?
yes
It's not fourth division
it goes
eredivisie
eerste divisie (first divsion)
tweede divisie (second)
third division
head class
first class
second class
third class
fourth class, this is where it happened fully amateur it doesn't have neutral assistants that happens until the head klasse
fifth class
first two divisions are pro, second and third divisions are partially semi pro. hmu if you want more info on the Dutch football system
Oh btw I referee youth teams in the area this happened so if you need more context I can definitely provide some
Lol guy got bought by the potential of singing a karaoke song.
Probably wanted to quit reffing, it was the end of the season after all.
Man City's representatives factually handed a huge wad of cash to Premier League referees this season. I agree with Zealand's first statement, no matter the context, should be disqualified. Especially when those refs went on to make a series of mistakes that all favoured Man City in the title race they won
If you're a ref and people know your name, you're doing something wrong
How bad was the winning team that they needed 4 red cards and 15 minutes of stoppage time to actually win
Did you see that red card for the Chelsea player in the women's European Champion's League final? Not even a foul. Sus.
when I saw the thumbnail I thought "clickbait for sure" but ok wow, sorry. WTF
ucl final ref after real madrid win
There was no footage of the ref and VAR team from the 2022 Championship play-off final celebrating with the Scab Cheats... but I'm convinced it happened.
Day 1 of requesting Zealand accept his destiny as rhe Penguinz0 of Football youtube and wear a plain white T-shirt for these Zealandism vids.
I don’t know about that; him wearing different jerseys for these vids just feels right. Would be cool if the jerseys changed depending on the topic of the video tho
Zealandism is way better than Penguinz0.
This is problem all over Europe. Refs grow up fans of teams and their biases will always be there. It is a problem that will always exist as long as the human factor does. VAR needs automation to remove the human element. The technology exists but they don’t want to use it. Offsides issues were not a big deal in the World Cup. They are almost every week in the EPL. Goal line technology removes all questions over whether the ball crossed the line or not. It shouldn’t be an issue for leagues making billions to invest in better technology.
The team should have to forfeit the match and be banned from competition for several years
This shit is pretty usual in lower leagues over here lol
gave 4 red cards to the losing team and celebrated the champions when they own the league AND added 15 minutes of extra time???
smells like collusion to me.
Makes a video on Ref's in the A League. They are amongst the worse refs in the world.
this isnt really the refs fault. like sure theres job integrity but ur not gonna convict ur wife of murder if ur the judge (metaphorically i hope whoever reading this would turn in their wife unless they genuinely believed the wife was right to do so) but this is on the league. like at the 4th division u probably dont really think of this happening but like they should bc people r really passionate
hi
2 games to go #bayer04leverkusen
Dutch fourth division? Whahaha no way... This was in one of the lowest amateur leagues, called vierde klasse (fourth class).
Eredivisie
Eerste divisie
Tweede divisie
Derde divisie
Vierde divisie
Eerste klasse
Tweede klasse
Derde klasse
Vierde klasse... So it's ninth tier
53 seconds, 0 views. Not gonna say Z's fallen off, but I'm thinking it.
what a shameful display. He should have done like the referees bought by Real Madrid and celebrate in private.
78 views in 5 minutes... you all know the rest
If you plan to become a professional sports official of any kind you have to commit to a life of neutrality and reject anything that could seem impartial. It's got to be part of the job and if you're not willing to take that on than you need to be in a different line of work.
He could have shown his neutrality by also having a drink with the losers. 😀
Easy solution: just ban him from officialiating St. George's games. I don't really see the big problem when the losing side agreed with the referee decisions and his actions after the game are not even banned/punishable for refs (+ hhe's done that with other teams too).
0 views 0 seconds
Referee is just a guy who loves life. He shouldn’t be judged by your standards.
4 views in one minute blud fell off
Peep Frogiola would be an honest ref. He would never call the game like this guy.
Right down the middle.