I used to have the 2019 version ofthis bike. 180/170. shimano e800, that was so good going down. I felt like I could go over anything with zero problems. This 2024 might be very cool considering the 5 years evolution...
Another valuable review! This would have been my goto choice a few years ago, now more into the lighter enduro, which is where the market seems to be going now that we’re over range anxiety. 😊
My Scott Ransom eride 920 is getting kinda beat after 1000mi of gnar. Curious how this bike would compare? I love the Scott but looking for a new Bosch based bike that has a more modern controller etc. BTW I upgraded the fork to a factory 38 and it's butta!
My favorite ebike ive ridden so far absolute unit. Did you guys have oil come out of the shock schrader valve when using the shock pump, specifically if airing down for a lighter rider?
guys just a couple things….how does it compare to the previous gen range with the following…ps. i own the previous gen btw. 1. the rear suspension changes to HP design 2. the rear wheel size back to 27.5 from 29 3. the bosch motor over a shimano sp8
Hey what’s up thanks for watching. In short, we like this one a lot more but to address your specific questions: 1 it’s a HP to it does do some of the weird HP things, lengthening rear end /wheelbase. Requires a bit more effort to get off ground over obstacles in a prehop move. 2. Improved cornering as it dips in a bit more easily. No real big negatives on roll over because of the suspension being so awesome. Perhaps does roll a bit slower. 3. Shimano isn’t a deal breaker for us by any means, but the Shimano does feel faster, holds a higher speed and is certainly rad drive unit. We like the integration into top tube as well. Hope that helps.
you guys are always going undersized. 460-470 reach is sizing for a 5'8-5'10..., in no way shape or form for a 6'2; nice decision going for a bike fit for one of the four testers.
@@TheLoamWolfi’m of the belief, including ebike riding mates that the traditional bike sizing isn’t the go to when choosing your size for an ebike…as you explained there are other factors to consider…the game has changed
@@H3avyHaul3rno it didn't; I'm a 5'8 and every ebike I tested in the M size was small; my L sized nuke giga is perfect; 460-470 reach is the way to go when you plan to ride down the hill.This bike would be an S3 for me...and so it should for anyone around 5'8-5'10.
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Awesome work. You guys have surpassed Pinkbike in quality of reviews and cinematography. Keep it up!
Oh wow, thank you so much! We greatly appreciate the kind words.
I have to agree!!!
@@mikeburgh3956 Same!
Better than PB for sure. PB's presenters are insufferable to listen to. Loam Wolf crew is pro yet relatable and chill.
Thank you very much! We try our best.
I used to have the 2019 version ofthis bike. 180/170. shimano e800, that was so good going down. I felt like I could go over anything with zero problems. This 2024 might be very cool considering the 5 years evolution...
It's another step or ten up from the old bike in performance across the board.
Seems like the high pivot is taking some elements from the previous two versions of this bike and combining them
Another valuable review! This would have been my goto choice a few years ago, now more into the lighter enduro, which is where the market seems to be going now that we’re over range anxiety. 😊
Thanks so much for checking it out. It’s going to be interesting to see how niches evolve!
Any emtb gearbox bikes in these tests? I know they are less prevalent right now but I think it’s the next logical step for emtb.
Not this year! BUT, we keep hoping to find some to get our way...
Nothing really available in the US yet
Self shuttling DH bike? Yes please!
This is for sure that bike!
That’s a sick looking eeb
It's a badass eBike for sure.
What a beast. Nice looking bike
It sure is! And rides like on too.
Great review!!
Glad you enjoyed it
My Scott Ransom eride 920 is getting kinda beat after 1000mi of gnar. Curious how this bike would compare? I love the Scott but looking for a new Bosch based bike that has a more modern controller etc. BTW I upgraded the fork to a factory 38 and it's butta!
Do these have a knock block?
My favorite ebike ive ridden so far absolute unit. Did you guys have oil come out of the shock schrader valve when using the shock pump, specifically if airing down for a lighter rider?
No we did not have that happen to us.
I love Norco bikes. They're always planted but if you put a 50 or 60 mm rise bar they turn into giant jump bikes
Heck yeah. haha. We've got a tall bar coming in we're excited to play with it.
@@TheLoamWolf toss it on the Range VLT and get real rowdy
@@andrewsiasparks High rise bars FTW
going 190mm front with 40mm riser and adding extra air to shocks and fork on a size 3 is the way to go!
You could pull your seat back, it’s rammed right toward so would probably feel a little better
Does this bike have any competition? What other brands make a 180mm travel emtb?
Canyon Torque:ON, SCOR 6080Z, Specialized Kenevo, Crestline S180, Focus Sam2...sure there's more we're missing. Formerly the Pole Voima and Sonni.
@ I only see the 2024 Kenevo in 170mm travel in front fork actually
how does this bike compare to crestline?
Not sure i tempted to get 1 over the 2023 yet.
Does it climb hard stuff better ?
Even with smaller rear wheel
Anyone riden both ? 😊
What was the weight of the bike
Too much
guys just a couple things….how does it compare to the previous gen range with the following…ps. i own the previous gen btw.
1. the rear suspension changes to HP design
2. the rear wheel size back to 27.5 from 29
3. the bosch motor over a shimano sp8
Hey what’s up thanks for watching. In short, we like this one a lot more but to address your specific questions:
1 it’s a HP to it does do some of the weird HP things, lengthening rear end /wheelbase. Requires a bit more effort to get off ground over obstacles in a prehop move.
2. Improved cornering as it dips in a bit more easily. No real big negatives on roll over because of the suspension being so awesome. Perhaps does roll a bit slower.
3. Shimano isn’t a deal breaker for us by any means, but the Shimano does feel faster, holds a higher speed and is certainly rad drive unit. We like the integration into top tube as well.
Hope that helps.
@TheLoamWolf you mean Bosch feels faster?
Nice looking bike but at that size get it closer to 200mm F/R. And put a gearbox in it already!
I'm sick and tired of hearing about the mavens. My understanding is that the lever pull force is much higher than its competitors
They do feel somewhat "sticky", but their maximum power is undeniable and beneficial for a big burly eBike like this.
you guys are always going undersized. 460-470 reach is sizing for a 5'8-5'10..., in no way shape or form for a 6'2; nice decision going for a bike fit for one of the four testers.
Our reasoning for the size selection was addressed two times in this video.
Im 5'7 on a small 428 reach Nukeproof 🤷 fits me perfect!! And in this vid these bikes look just fine for them. Plus they explain it
@@TheLoamWolfi’m of the belief, including ebike riding mates that the traditional bike sizing isn’t the go to when choosing your size for an ebike…as you explained there are other factors to consider…the game has changed
@@mikeburgh3956I'm 5'8 on a size large nukeproof giga; fits me perfectly, awesome dh sc bike. anything shorter is less dh and enduro capable
@@H3avyHaul3rno it didn't; I'm a 5'8 and every ebike I tested in the M size was small; my L sized nuke giga is perfect; 460-470 reach is the way to go when you plan to ride down the hill.This bike would be an S3 for me...and so it should for anyone around 5'8-5'10.
Thicc
She sure is.
"Humanoid powered" range.
Haha, are humanoids cheaters?
Lame wolf continues destroying their brand and reputation. Shame
Buddy... It's the 6th Annual EMTB Shootout.... We're not new to this. You realize it's perfectly normal to enjoy more than one type of fun right?
Just because we do a pizza shootout two weeks a year doesn't mean we never eat burritos.
BUT, we're glad to know you woke up this fine morning and went out of your way to stay consistent with the hate, and we look forward to seeing you again tomorrow. 👍
Hey DB! Let’s see your free content bro! Put up or shut up…
@@TheLoamWolf it's noon goofball, no wonder you think people want ebike content if you think the world revolves around you
@@bfranco1519 boomer low testosterone response. Cry more little dude
@@bfranco1519 you sound like you need gas station boner pills to please your wife