@@markrussell3428 If they were fair, they would at least not allow videos that promote this subject, since they censor almost all user comments on this subject.
Leading hospitals have been providing this care for decades.......to ADULTS! The trans attorney is arguing using statistics from adults. This case is about children.
Exactly. I’ve seen these surgeries they were adults There is controlled with consenting adults. Children can not make these life changing decisions. That is why we have parents.
Yes, please leave Trans kids alone. Let their parents and doctors decide what’s best for THIER family. It’s not my business or anyone who is not raising a trans child.
No, more like politicians leave those kids alone. Politicians are not doctors or psychiatrists. The vast majority of the medical/psychiatric professionals support transgender care.
All arguments about this case aside; do you really think the teachers are trying to turn little girls into little boys and little boys into little girls like do you really honestly think that’s happening?
Does anyone else think that teaching children about this ideology at school is a big part of the problem ? This is something we didn’t see many years ago 🤔
Luckiest lawyer in the country to be where she is right now. But hey, I guess it's only fair that unremarkable people should be represented on the Supreme Court, too.
News flash buddy, the Tennessee law is an attack on a vulnerable community. “Civil and eloquent” speech doesn’t change the fact that this restriction will cause far more harm than some pointed words to the counsel
It sounds to me like this case is being heard on arguments of feelings rather than solid factual supporting evidence that doesn't have to be misconstrued 6 ways to Sunday. I have not heard much in the way of medical evidence to support using hormone replacement therapy for this purpose, especially for minors. Last I checked, in order to make a medication the standard of care, there has to be solid scientific studies and information that supports it's efficiency and safety. There are medications on the market that aren't given to patients with certain medical conditions, because they would be detrimental to their health. Seems to me this is the case that Tennessee state has made for this regulation.
Future generations are going to look back at this atrocity we’ve perpetrated on our vulnerable children, just like we look back on the evils of enslaving other vulnerable populations. It’s monstrous and that will be the mainstream understanding in less than 7 years.
It might take longer. People are stillmaking too much money from it, guilt and manipulation of empathy are still the main driving forces and there arent enough law suits from all the detransitioners. Unfortunately, their own community even rejects/ignores them as soon as they have second thoughts. Empathy only for their allys....
Whats amazing is this wasn't an issue until Drs figured out that the Affordable Care Act was affirming and automatically paying for these procedures. Dr's have been making a fortune and making Kids life long medical patients. Private Ins were going through individual authorization prior to this. Caution was always taken and we never had these problems and kids weren't out here killing themselves because they couldn't have surgeries and blockers.
@@DrDonnyTheBookofYou Because preventing abuse of kids by those that want to chemically castrate them is more important than a socialized healthcare system.
I'm sorry I think you're confused this case isn't about two year olds, a two year old doesn't need gender affirming care when there are no differential characteristics from hormones in a two year old female and male, this isn't about two year olds choosing their gender it's about minors who are old enough to be experiencing differential characteristics from hormones and two year olds don't experience that, unless you've seen a male two year old walking around with a full grown beard trying to reverse that🤔 that would be surprising but if you have i mean I'd like to know I
How is this even a discussion at the supreme court? How tf did we even get here? Leave our freaking kids alone Jesus Christ. A child can not consent to destroying their own body beyond repair. If you wanna do it as an adult, be my guest.
Decisions must be based on "in the best interest of", including protecting a child from unnecessary surgery, permanent harm by bad parenting, until a child is of age. That is constitutional or state protection! Not the fools marching with colorful signs to bring another into their cult mindedness.
When did we stop getting people help for mental issues? If someone is really having an issue with this then they need to speak to a professional, not get a life changing surgery. It’s an attack on their identity.
Because a therapist can't solve the underlying problem. We actualy don't quite know if it is a hormonal imbalance, a brain problem or a problem at all. We are actualy just learning about this, that is what makes it so hard to judge.
I am a therapist and I, as well as many other therapists who don’t believe in gender affirming care have successfully helped more and more youths to detransition.
Gender affirming care IS the help. Only so much therapy can be done. Gender dysphoria cannot be "cured" by purely therapy or a psychoactive medication-- medical transition IS the treatment.
Sotomayor is not a smart person lol. "You want to stop teens from taking T just because they're trans!" "Ma'am, T is a scheduled drug and cis kids can't get it for mental health either!"
She meaning the person giving the arguments in defense of this case keeps changing her wording first she said medically required and then when pressed she says medically indicated her case is very weak
The lawyer against Tennessee needs some training in communication. Her tone is mildly abrasive and at times borderline irreverent. Even if she thinks the justices are morons, she isn't serving, but hurting, her case by not speaking to them gently and with eloquence and charm.
@tinfoilhomer909 I wasn't making an argument. I was making an observation. Why do you insist on being a partisan who assumes everything is always motivated by "my side" vs. "the other side" bickering. Try taking a break from the politicosphere for a while.
I believe these adult people who want to transition should do it in their own dime and before it’s allowed they should be mandated to have no less than 2 years of therapy to deal with the dark emotions behind this! Children should be banned until 21!
And you graduated from what medical school? Do you have a child with gender dysphoria? Do you know any children that do? Maybe you should try to meet some of the people that are affected by this before you spew ignorant opinions on the internet.
@ common sense doesn’t need a degree! If you have a child that has a mental health issue than you seek counseling, you don’t give them surgery that may result in further damage down the road! These decisions are not reversible and as a parent I would rather wait until they are More mature and have had enough life experience to reach a competent decision than have them suffer for the rest of their lives! There is by the way medical proof that children are not cognitively mature until they reach their early 20s …
I think there is actualy a mandated hour of therapy sessions and you have to bring it two external opinions from licenced therapists (obviously this varies by state and country)
@@4362mont i don’t see my own comment anymore🤣- 1A matters🗣️🥳- wish the whole world had it- we must fight for it- The T pushers drown out the speakers, which is cu1t behavior, not an argument. Even the horrid aclu states we have the right to be heard (except today of course!)
Doesn't matter, even her premise (that it's gender-based discrimination) is 100% false: Solicitor started off with a lie: "Someone _assigned_ female at birth can't receive medication to live as a male & that's strictly a gender based discrimination." Ignoring the "assigned" trope, both genders are equally limited from traaaaansing, ergo, NO DISCRIMINATION. Where's the inconsistency??
Her voice is really quite difficult to listen to not sure if I can make it through all of the aurguments. What these so called therapies subscribe should be crimanalized at the least.
More like how we look at lobotomies. Doctors performing surgeries with dubious results as the government permitted it, and sometimes, even encouraged it.
@@xx_HI_xx7i believe they're saying it's baffling that this is even a conversation that is being had, children cannot consent to these treatments that will have permanent effects and when people look back on this in the future they'll wonder why this was all ever allowed for minors in the first place.
Leave the children alone! Let the parents transition before any underage child. No insurance company or tax payer money should pay for this garbage. Make changes once the "child" becomes of age at 18 years of age. Depopulation and creating modern day Eunics.
"Kids change their minds all the time; when I was nine I wanted to be a pirate, fortunately they didn't schedule me for eye removal and peg-leg surgery." --- Bill Maher
You are not knowledgeable on this topic, obviously. The Psychologists and Psychiatrists of this country do not agree with you. You don't know what it's like to feel as though you are a man in a woman's body, or a woman in a man's body. Speaking to a professional won't change that. Children are not able to get gender reassignment surgeries. In fact, adults normally cannot get it until after they've lived either 1 or 2 years (depending on the institute doing the surgery) as the gender they want to transition to. Hormone therapies are not permanent, and they can stop taking the drugs if they change their minds. But the fact is, the vast VAST majority of them don't change their minds.
The difference between doing the surgery’s and letting kids suffer from being mutilated is way worse than having o surgery for kids and they have to delay their transition. How outrageous of a claim.
And there havent been any studies that have gone past the clinical phase. Because at clinical studies very claims from supporters begins to crumble and doesnt support their hypothesis.
They never use cameras in order to maintain decorum. It discourages the lawyers from performing for the cameras and damaging the integrity of the arguments
Irrelevant. What is low T for men is medically catastrophic high T for women, vice versa and et cetera. Male and female bodies are different at the cellular level and don't respond to the same hormones the same way.
Friendly reminder that a classification that demands higher scrutiny can’t be ignored because of another classification. A categorical ban like in TN and other states is not constitutional nor supported by any medical organization.
Lord lift those voices fighting for all of us. Protect the children and young adults that are being mutilated with unethical and even what can be called human torture. Lord forgive our atrocities.
Speaking of those "parents who'd know best" whom we could just "trust" ... That includes Charlize Theron who just "randomly" had THREE traaansies kids.
@ yeah but that isn’t a genuine medical condition with a basis in science. Gender dysphoria and trans people are. Through a mismatch of hormone washing while in utero.
Who is motormouth? And what give her the power to speak to the SUPREME Court in such a condescending manner? I understand she’s passionate about her position, but that’s not an excuse.
If we want to speak on parent rights, we must assume the parents are raising their kids properly. That's the hardest job of all, of course. And if parents aren't up to it, they don't deserve to expell dramatic emotional damage upon human beings. Sometimes, we need water, not blood.
This is a parental rights issue. As a parent, I have a right to support my child. I’ve known him his whole life, so maybe I know his needs better than some random politician.
Stop. The importance of this case is regarding children. And then adolescents, and then adults. I am not here to indicate every feminine boy or masculine girl as a different gender. But certain individuals, regardless of age, need to be heard. Especially when they are being so adamant.
I am transgender. What has followed has been an unjust barrage of verbal questioning and suggestions that are simply not true. I chose to transition, similar to how someone believes in a faith of choice. I am still as spiritual, intuitive, kind, and thoughtful as the guy(s) next to me.
Clarence Thomas doesn't recognize or empathize with transgender people and those who suffer from gender dysphoria. It's important to recognize that Gender Dysphoria doesn't imply that one has autism, BPD, and a slue of other mental illnesses. Correlation doesn't mean causation.
@@The_Greipist Indians are not the only group to see beyond a binary when it comes to gender. Your narrow-mindedness is clearly something you're proud of.
Why do courts/states even get a say in what is medically necessary or not. These procedures are opted in by the consenting parties, no one is forcing these treatments on anyone. Leave trans healthcare to the actual medical professionals.
@cubanyili Except in most states, children as young as 12 can make medical decisions for themselves. Legally, minors can consent to medical treatment.
If you’re not a parent or doctor of someone who is Trans. This is not your fight. Please stop and go worry about your own family. This is for the families who live this. Not yours. Thanks in advance for minding your own business.
Wrong. We pass laws against child abuse even when our kids aren't abused. It is the duty of all citizens to protect the vulnerable from those who seek to harm them, especially children.
@@bobbym6130 please tell me your experience raising a trans child? It appears you have a lot of knowledge in this area. I don’t have any. And I understand since I have no experience or knowledge raising someone who is trans, it is therefore my place to listen and learn from you, who knows about this sort of thing.
@ also, I presume that since your so concerned about “protecting children”, I assume your also an expert in making sure ALL Children have decent housing, food to eat, adequate healthcare…please enlighten me on your expertise in those areas, because they’re lots of poor inner children who need your help.
Here to address anyone who thinks that a transwoman is unjust for supporting trans rights, regardless of age. Y'all aren't impressive in misconstruing my words. I'm not trying to pass along a trans-bible in any schools. But YOU ALL could gain a little to empathize with a demographic that experiences daily discrimination in certain areas of this country and all across the world. Go salute the flag jerks. 🇺🇲
@@markgado8782 Y'all are the ones who would benefit the most from seeing an actual mental health professional, but are too afraid doing so would make you look weak to your peers.
@@leriks6410 so... what you're saying is that you'll get triggered and act out like a child throwing a tantrum if you see words you don't like. Yep. You are part of the reason we had a giant red wave.
@leriks6410 Think about this, the Loving case has nothing to do with giving 9 year olds medications that have permanent effects they aren't old enough to understand.
This is a discussion for the family. Much of this needs to be extrapolated from the concept of abortion. The reason why abortions should be given on the basis of individual choice, federally protected, is because there is no just comparison between a conceived gamete and a fully grown adult woman.
Lol. Says you. We don't have to agree. In fact. I completely disagree. This "gamete" or a human, is defenceless. Hence should be protected, no? Like you want your rights to be. Why should we follow your rights, but not the child's? Hypocrisy, is why. Selfishness. Is why.
The problem is that conservatives always take the most disingenuous figures they can find, and won't accept anything less. Edit: his inability to admit that there ARE benefits, regardless as to how niche, is a clear example.
What a gross distortion of the law (by the plaintiffs side and woke judges)! The Book of Mormon is right on point when it repeatedly warns of lawyers and those who are "expert in many words" who "use much flattery, and much power of speech" to distort and deceive. "I say unto you, that the foundation of the destruction of this people is beginning to be laid by the unrighteousness of your lawyers and your judges." - Alma 10:27 Despite these corrupt lawyers & judges, I believe our nation is turning back to the Supreme Creator. Check out the entire chapter 10 of Alma.
Hopefully the Supreme Court will have some common sense, the drugs they put these kids on before & after surgery are not even FDA authorized. Joe Biden said I won’t take the vaccine, I’ll take if the scientists say so, the fda approved it there’s no ifs. Soo this is why the government needs to go! doge!
I find it funny that the Supreme Court of the United States of America is determining their Americans' rights via international affairs of the world. We need to remember what 'Seperation of Powers' means.
I hate to be so directive to protestant ideologies and the historic trails that have followed. This is what happens when people believe that faith alone validates one's active living. Works matter. This is sorta a which hunt >:3.
1:53:48 oh no whatever shall we do. It's almost like it's worked for everyone else literally ever. Victim card cause the world won't cater to ur feelings 😢😂😂😂
Google is censoring comments on this issue, not based on civility, but based on its viewpoint discrimination.
@@AuroraColoradoUSA how so.. what is google doing?
@@markrussell3428
I suspect at best they are trying to limit discussion of this topic, regardless of civility. That is viewpoint discrimination.
@@markrussell3428
If they were fair, they would at least not allow videos that promote this subject, since they censor almost all user comments on this subject.
Leading hospitals have been providing this care for decades.......to ADULTS! The trans attorney is arguing using statistics from adults. This case is about children.
Tell me Katanji-Ka-Poo-Poo does sounds like Shelly Marsh. 🤣
and INFANTS
Exactly. I’ve seen these surgeries they were adults There is controlled with consenting adults. Children can not make these life changing decisions. That is why we have parents.
@@rosemullen-r5wright but the law would not allow this scenario, but in stead punish doctors
And for minors
Hey, Teacher, Leave them kids alone!
Exactly
Yes, please leave Trans kids alone. Let their parents and doctors decide what’s best for THIER family. It’s not my business or anyone who is not raising a trans child.
No, more like politicians leave those kids alone. Politicians are not doctors or psychiatrists. The vast majority of the medical/psychiatric professionals support transgender care.
Right… Leave the kids, their parents and their doctors alone.
All arguments about this case aside; do you really think the teachers are trying to turn little girls into little boys and little boys into little girls like do you really honestly think that’s happening?
Does anyone else think that teaching children about this ideology at school is a big part of the problem ? This is something we didn’t see many years ago 🤔
*you didn't see
@ children are impressionable, if you teach them this they will believe it’s an option
Well you did see transitioning years ago. Conservatives used to mind their own business then.
yes it is, it most certainly is
Sotamayor is ridiculous....
Luckiest lawyer in the country to be where she is right now. But hey, I guess it's only fair that unremarkable people should be represented on the Supreme Court, too.
@@dmmmwerd
representatives is what they think of themselves, but in fact they are in no way representative of our people
Notice the difference in the tone of the voices. The conservative judges aren’t attacking the other side like more liberal judges are
You're right, they are only attacking suffering children
Yea right. The conservatives justices are going to allow state legislature to harass children.
it's much easier to be disinterested when you don't have your rights on the line.
News flash buddy, the Tennessee law is an attack on a vulnerable community. “Civil and eloquent” speech doesn’t change the fact that this restriction will cause far more harm than some pointed words to the counsel
Absolutely.
It sounds to me like this case is being heard on arguments of feelings rather than solid factual supporting evidence that doesn't have to be misconstrued 6 ways to Sunday. I have not heard much in the way of medical evidence to support using hormone replacement therapy for this purpose, especially for minors. Last I checked, in order to make a medication the standard of care, there has to be solid scientific studies and information that supports it's efficiency and safety.
There are medications on the market that aren't given to patients with certain medical conditions, because they would be detrimental to their health. Seems to me this is the case that Tennessee state has made for this regulation.
One might think that this case is a "no-brainer". However, Kagan, Soto-whatever, and Jackson-Brown have no brains.
Why
They are delliousional. Any shock, 2 out 3 have no children so sacrificing a child is lost on them. Delliousional.
Future generations are going to look back at this atrocity we’ve perpetrated on our vulnerable children, just like we look back on the evils of enslaving other vulnerable populations. It’s monstrous and that will be the mainstream understanding in less than 7 years.
@plasmodesma7569 atleast the three trans radical judges will be on the record.
It might take longer. People are stillmaking too much money from it, guilt and manipulation of empathy are still the main driving forces and there arent enough law suits from all the detransitioners. Unfortunately, their own community even rejects/ignores them as soon as they have second thoughts. Empathy only for their allys....
Whats amazing is this wasn't an issue until Drs figured out that the Affordable Care Act was affirming and automatically paying for these procedures. Dr's have been making a fortune and making Kids life long medical patients. Private Ins were going through individual authorization prior to this. Caution was always taken and we never had these problems and kids weren't out here killing themselves because they couldn't have surgeries and blockers.
what amazing is that you focusing on that instead of the fact that we all don't have free healthcare yet.
@@DrDonnyTheBookofYou"Free", lol
@@DrDonnyTheBookofYou Because preventing abuse of kids by those that want to chemically castrate them is more important than a socialized healthcare system.
As they should, as this care prevents suicide in transgender youth. 🤷♂️
Leech@@DrDonnyTheBookofYou
Just leave the kids alone
Why do these lawyers with outragous arguments have the most possibly annoying voices? 🤨
I believe the lady speaking is a "transman" with a beard.
Because the lawyer himself is trans 😂
Because it's a woman pretending to be a man.
to promote keyboard and mouse actions like skipping ahead in the video
Right. If they are of age they can do as they please. A minor is a different story, and really how many patients do they have. ?
If at 2 years old a child can choose their gender, then why can't a fetus choose to live?!
@@ByeByeJoe yikes.
I'm sorry I think you're confused this case isn't about two year olds, a two year old doesn't need gender affirming care when there are no differential characteristics from hormones in a two year old female and male, this isn't about two year olds choosing their gender it's about minors who are old enough to be experiencing differential characteristics from hormones and two year olds don't experience that, unless you've seen a male two year old walking around with a full grown beard trying to reverse that🤔 that would be surprising but if you have i mean I'd like to know
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How is this even a discussion at the supreme court? How tf did we even get here? Leave our freaking kids alone Jesus Christ. A child can not consent to destroying their own body beyond repair. If you wanna do it as an adult, be my guest.
What about parents rights
Then you complain they're men
@@Tracy-m3nparents don’t have a right to harm their children
Decisions must be based on "in the best interest of", including protecting a child from unnecessary surgery, permanent harm by bad parenting, until a child is of age. That is constitutional or state protection! Not the fools marching with colorful signs to bring another into their cult mindedness.
When did we stop getting people help for mental issues? If someone is really having an issue with this then they need to speak to a professional, not get a life changing surgery. It’s an attack on their identity.
Please read my comment that's in total agreement to your comment
Because a therapist can't solve the underlying problem. We actualy don't quite know if it is a hormonal imbalance, a brain problem or a problem at all. We are actualy just learning about this, that is what makes it so hard to judge.
I am a therapist and I, as well as many other therapists who don’t believe in gender affirming care have successfully helped more and more youths to detransition.
Gender affirming care IS the help. Only so much therapy can be done. Gender dysphoria cannot be "cured" by purely therapy or a psychoactive medication-- medical transition IS the treatment.
gender affirming care and talk therapy is the cure for gender dysphoria, which is what currently is being banned, try to keep up!
If a kid walks into Doctor to deepen his voice?? Of course not! This is a Supreme Court justice?
Sotomayor is not a smart person lol. "You want to stop teens from taking T just because they're trans!" "Ma'am, T is a scheduled drug and cis kids can't get it for mental health either!"
When it's liberal judges absolutely, this would be the Supreme Kangaroo court
Thomas nailed it. Just say NO to puberty blockers and now you deny based on age and maturity.
She meaning the person giving the arguments in defense of this case keeps changing her wording first she said medically required and then when pressed she says medically indicated her case is very weak
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@@naytewilson Kate Strangio, who now calls herself Chase, is a woman. Glad I could clear that up for you!
The lawyer against Tennessee needs some training in communication. Her tone is mildly abrasive and at times borderline irreverent. Even if she thinks the justices are morons, she isn't serving, but hurting, her case by not speaking to them gently and with eloquence and charm.
so your only argument is "I don't like her attitude" that's a pretty poor rebuttal.
@tinfoilhomer909 I wasn't making an argument. I was making an observation. Why do you insist on being a partisan who assumes everything is always motivated by "my side" vs. "the other side" bickering. Try taking a break from the politicosphere for a while.
@@taylorbarrett384 focus on the message, not the messenger.
She is brilliant, DOJ's best appellate attorney, and has a terrific track record before SCOTUS. They're quite used to her style.
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Child vs. Adults issue, Government vs. Medical industry.
Here's a question. Hopefully, I dont get it by asking this to the Supreme Court. Why haven't the Epstein Files been dropped?
I believe these adult people who want to transition should do it in their own dime and before it’s allowed they should be mandated to have no less than 2 years of therapy to deal with the dark emotions behind this! Children should be banned until 21!
And you graduated from what medical school? Do you have a child with gender dysphoria? Do you know any children that do? Maybe you should try to meet some of the people that are affected by this before you spew ignorant opinions on the internet.
@@NikHutsonNo one needs to go to medical school to know that cutting up kids is insane, lol
@ common sense doesn’t need a degree! If you have a child that has a mental health issue than you seek counseling, you don’t give them surgery that may result in further damage down the road! These decisions are not reversible and as a parent I would rather wait until they are
More mature and have had enough life experience to reach a competent decision than have them suffer for the rest of their lives! There is by the way medical proof that children are not cognitively mature until they reach their early 20s …
I think there is actualy a mandated hour of therapy sessions and you have to bring it two external opinions from licenced therapists (obviously this varies by state and country)
Alito & Thomas will do the right thing & get this law upheld
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yeah, but we really can't count on little miss "I have no notes" ACB nor bedwetter-Kav.
The question is how hard Roberts and Kavanaugh will drop the hammer. If Roberts rules in the majority he selects who will write the opinion.
Coney too
Someona's playing that music to try to drown out a speaker? 'cause it's working
Yup- when you don’t have a proper argument, as cu1ts do, you just shut down speech. Shouldn’t be allowed
So much for 1A ...
@@4362mont tactic of the far left radicals
Please read my comment which is in total agreement with you.
@@4362mont i don’t see my own comment anymore🤣- 1A matters🗣️🥳- wish the whole world had it- we must fight for it-
The T pushers drown out the speakers, which is cu1t behavior, not an argument. Even the horrid aclu states we have the right to be heard (except today of course!)
This councilor continues to use a narrative that would normally be used for adults, not children..
Doesn't matter, even her premise (that it's gender-based discrimination) is 100% false:
Solicitor started off with a lie: "Someone _assigned_ female at birth can't receive medication to live as a male & that's strictly a gender based discrimination."
Ignoring the "assigned" trope, both genders are equally limited from traaaaansing, ergo, NO DISCRIMINATION. Where's the inconsistency??
The precedent backs him up unfortunately.
@@slipstreammonkey
President doesn’t matter, really. That is up to the judges to determine which ones to accept.
Lobotomies had precedent.
Her voice is really quite difficult to listen to not sure if I can make it through all of the aurguments.
What these so called therapies subscribe should be crimanalized at the least.
I am afraid that we will be looking at this point in time in the future. The same way the Germans look at the Holocaust
What are you trying to say exactly? Are you in favor of this.
More like how we look at lobotomies.
Doctors performing surgeries with dubious results as the government permitted it, and sometimes, even encouraged it.
@@xx_HI_xx7i believe they're saying it's baffling that this is even a conversation that is being had, children cannot consent to these treatments that will have permanent effects and when people look back on this in the future they'll wonder why this was all ever allowed for minors in the first place.
Your sure right
@platanous that's what I was thinking as well. It's the wording that makes me second guess.
Leave the children alone! Let the parents transition before any underage child. No insurance company or tax payer money should pay for this garbage. Make changes once the "child" becomes of age at 18 years of age.
Depopulation and creating modern day Eunics.
39:35 puberty blockers isn't "just pressing pause". I can't believe she can just lie like that.
Stop trying to groom the kids.
Lol
Tell that to the priests
Literally no one is grooming children to "become" trans. We are, however, supporting those children who "are" trans. See how that works?
@@desmond3828you mean parental grooming?
@@thinkforyourself-t6lDebra Rosenquist would like a word, lol
"Kids change their minds all the time; when I was nine I wanted to be a pirate, fortunately they didn't schedule me for eye removal and peg-leg surgery." --- Bill Maher
You are not knowledgeable on this topic, obviously. The Psychologists and Psychiatrists of this country do not agree with you. You don't know what it's like to feel as though you are a man in a woman's body, or a woman in a man's body. Speaking to a professional won't change that. Children are not able to get gender reassignment surgeries. In fact, adults normally cannot get it until after they've lived either 1 or 2 years (depending on the institute doing the surgery) as the gender they want to transition to. Hormone therapies are not permanent, and they can stop taking the drugs if they change their minds. But the fact is, the vast VAST majority of them don't change their minds.
@@shanejohns7901LOL
You can't be serious that's not the same
@@shanejohns7901if children don’t get that surgery, you’ll have no objection to banning it.
@@hsmd4533surgeries are not on the table, puberty blockers are.
How about let him speak. You didn't interrupt blabberbox..let him speak.
I'm too busy dealing with y'all 🙄. But sure. Let me pay attention.
Close captioning for the HOH community to follow along would be very helpful.
I'm not HOH but agreed.
Agreed. It also allows clearer following along of legal jargon and complicated statements and answers.
2:11:00 you can hear the lawyer's distress at having to explain to KBJ that boys and girls have different physiology.
This is just ridiculous..... No one should play around with natural sexuality
What on earth do you mean by “natural sexuality”
Evolution and science would both like a word with you.
yes, that's why conversion therapy is illegal.
@@werr3222werrr
Male and female. Male and female are literally designed for each other biologically. There's no getting around it.
@@joan_of_craft4690"Transitioning" is conversion therapy, lol
The difference between doing the surgery’s and letting kids suffer from being mutilated is way worse than having o surgery for kids and they have to delay their transition. How outrageous of a claim.
100% of the kids who use PBs and then HRT will be sterilized. It's not a "risk", it's a certainty.
No one is arguing for kids getting surgery. Blockers and hormones can *prevent* surgery.
@@catsmom129Then why are girls as young as 13 getting double mastectomies after already being on blockers and hormones? lol
Surgery is not what they are talking about.
And there havent been any studies that have gone past the clinical phase. Because at clinical studies very claims from supporters begins to crumble and doesnt support their hypothesis.
Why no video?
They never use cameras in order to maintain decorum. It discourages the lawyers from performing for the cameras and damaging the integrity of the arguments
I also want to remind the court that both men and women have both fluctuating levels of E and T.
Irrelevant. What is low T for men is medically catastrophic high T for women, vice versa and et cetera.
Male and female bodies are different at the cellular level and don't respond to the same hormones the same way.
Friendly reminder that a classification that demands higher scrutiny can’t be ignored because of another classification. A categorical ban like in TN and other states is not constitutional nor supported by any medical organization.
What is boss stock argument? Am I spelling it right?
Bostock v. Clayton County.
Lord lift those voices fighting for all of us. Protect the children and young adults that are being mutilated with unethical and even what can be called human torture.
Lord forgive our atrocities.
Speaking of those "parents who'd know best" whom we could just "trust" ...
That includes Charlize Theron who just "randomly" had THREE traaansies kids.
If your parents had you circumcised, aren't they mutilators too? 🤔
People seeking medical care is not torture. People have a right to seek the care they need.
Sotomayor is dangerous.
It's all about "parents' rights" until that right is about being a girly boy.
There is not right for a parent to abuse their child under the guise of "being their authentic self."
@@Mr.JoeBanglesit’s not a “guise” you muppet
@@Mr.JoeBanglesthat’s not abuse
@werr3222werrr it is. If a child says they're a cat, would you think that encouraging them to live as a cat is healthy for society as a whole?
@ yeah but that isn’t a genuine medical condition with a basis in science. Gender dysphoria and trans people are. Through a mismatch of hormone washing while in utero.
Tennessee gave us the Scopes Monkey Trial, so let's see what happens here.
Sotomayor can always be counted on to be the least insightful questioner.
Your side is bigoted
To be fair, she doesn’t have the aptitude to ask insightful questions
@@Tracy-m3ncall it what you want but the proper term is “science”.
@hsmd4533 and science says meds work
@hsmd4533 what insightful question did Republicans ask
Who is motormouth? And what give her the power to speak to the SUPREME Court in such a condescending manner? I understand she’s passionate about her position, but that’s not an excuse.
She's a transman with a beard. The Gateway Pundit just posted a piece about her.
Edit: Edit: Nvm I was right the first time, she's a trans activist/lawyer, Strangio or something similar to that
Because he’s trans… therefore he’s entitled being from a protected class.
To answer Clarence Thomas. This verdict will likely change the outcome of Dobbs v JWHO
I thought Chase was a man…?!
If we want to speak on parent rights, we must assume the parents are raising their kids properly. That's the hardest job of all, of course. And if parents aren't up to it, they don't deserve to expell dramatic emotional damage upon human beings. Sometimes, we need water, not blood.
I wish we took parental rights this seriously
Ps the standards of care were written by WPATH. Look them up and ask yourself if that’s an unbiased organization
Parents dont have a right to abuse their children.
This is a parental rights issue. As a parent, I have a right to support my child. I’ve known him his whole life, so maybe I know his needs better than some random politician.
@ you don’t have a right to abuse your kid. Sorry about that.
@@heyitsme881 medical neglect is abuse. Failing to treat is abuse. Seeking appropriate professional advice and treatment is not.
That voice though....
Stop. The importance of this case is regarding children. And then adolescents, and then adults. I am not here to indicate every feminine boy or masculine girl as a different gender. But certain individuals, regardless of age, need to be heard. Especially when they are being so adamant.
No one is stopping them from being heard. They're being stopped from making permanent medical decisions without informed consent.
What's your point?
I am transgender. What has followed has been an unjust barrage of verbal questioning and suggestions that are simply not true. I chose to transition, similar to how someone believes in a faith of choice. I am still as spiritual, intuitive, kind, and thoughtful as the guy(s) next to me.
@@leriks6410 I believe what you’re saying , and I love all people regardless but I bet you’re not a child!
Clarence Thomas doesn't recognize or empathize with transgender people and those who suffer from gender dysphoria. It's important to recognize that Gender Dysphoria doesn't imply that one has autism, BPD, and a slue of other mental illnesses. Correlation doesn't mean causation.
41% doesn't lie. 😢
That voice!! its like nails on a chalkboard!!
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Trans Rights are Human Rights 🏳️⚧️
Not when you have little ones changing their gender or forcing young girls to share bathrooms and sports with biological men
No
03:15:16 Loving has no bearing on this case because " race" is fictitious, gender is not.
Because of the way you're defining it. American Indians held that there were 3 genders. You're just woefully bigoted and willfully ignorant.
@@shanejohns7901What's the "3rd" gender, and why would anyone care what people who also sacrificed other people for their rain gods believed? lol
@@The_Greipist Indians are not the only group to see beyond a binary when it comes to gender. Your narrow-mindedness is clearly something you're proud of.
Logic? The annoying lawyer is saying basically, that the law is discriminatory. What a load.
The law doesn't discriminate. Neither do I.
It discriminates on its face. If you listened to her you would understand that.
LoL. "Motormouth?" You'll have to do better than that. Say it with your fist.
Estrogen has very little effect on males, while testosterone has devastating effects on females
Wrong
@@rosemullen-r5wnot at all. OP is absolutely correct and there is plenty of medical evidence to support it.
@@rosemullen-r5w because they are both devastating
Why do courts/states even get a say in what is medically necessary or not. These procedures are opted in by the consenting parties, no one is forcing these treatments on anyone. Leave trans healthcare to the actual medical professionals.
See Sen Roger Marshall’s November 20 upload regarding transgender care. Or you might also want to reference his bill S. 5356
Except a minor can't consent
Minors can't consent to irreparably changing their bodies. Hope this helps!
It's called Child Abuse. Children cannot give informed consent.
Nobody is stopping adults from mutilating their own bodies.
Leave the children alone.
@cubanyili Except in most states, children as young as 12 can make medical decisions for themselves. Legally, minors can consent to medical treatment.
If you’re not a parent or doctor of someone who is Trans. This is not your fight. Please stop and go worry about your own family. This is for the families who live this. Not yours. Thanks in advance for minding your own business.
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Wrong. We pass laws against child abuse even when our kids aren't abused. It is the duty of all citizens to protect the vulnerable from those who seek to harm them, especially children.
@@bobbym6130 please tell me your experience raising a trans child? It appears you have a lot of knowledge in this area. I don’t have any. And I understand since I have no experience or knowledge raising someone who is trans, it is therefore my place to listen and learn from you, who knows about this sort of thing.
@ also, I presume that since your so concerned about “protecting children”, I assume your also an expert in making sure ALL Children have decent housing, food to eat, adequate healthcare…please enlighten me on your expertise in those areas, because they’re lots of poor inner children who need your help.
Children should be protected no matter what!
Here to address anyone who thinks that a transwoman is unjust for supporting trans rights, regardless of age. Y'all aren't impressive in misconstruing my words. I'm not trying to pass along a trans-bible in any schools. But YOU ALL could gain a little to empathize with a demographic that experiences daily discrimination in certain areas of this country and all across the world. Go salute the flag jerks. 🇺🇲
And I stg if a mtf quotes a live TV host or some fuxking movie I'll wild out.
@@leriks6410the psych ward misses you. Please go back. 😊
It’s a dude.
@@markgado8782 Y'all are the ones who would benefit the most from seeing an actual mental health professional, but are too afraid doing so would make you look weak to your peers.
@@leriks6410 so... what you're saying is that you'll get triggered and act out like a child throwing a tantrum if you see words you don't like.
Yep.
You are part of the reason we had a giant red wave.
Facts!!!
Loving, seriously?
I'd like to propose that you know nothing about the furthest extant of love. Think about it.
@leriks6410 Think about this, the Loving case has nothing to do with giving 9 year olds medications that have permanent effects they aren't old enough to understand.
Yes Loving vs Virginia
@BellePal How does it apply to children getting puberty blockers?
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How about you define your long words. You're speaking to real Americans.
Gig'em
No they are not. They are speaking to the highest court in the US.
This is a discussion for the family. Much of this needs to be extrapolated from the concept of abortion. The reason why abortions should be given on the basis of individual choice, federally protected, is because there is no just comparison between a conceived gamete and a fully grown adult woman.
Lol. Says you. We don't have to agree. In fact. I completely disagree. This "gamete" or a human, is defenceless. Hence should be protected, no?
Like you want your rights to be.
Why should we follow your rights, but not the child's?
Hypocrisy, is why.
Selfishness. Is why.
The problem is that conservatives always take the most disingenuous figures they can find, and won't accept anything less.
Edit: his inability to admit that there ARE benefits, regardless as to how niche, is a clear example.
41%
Bs
He said potential benefits when referring to the other side at one point. The argument is that the benefits do not outweigh the risks
Yes. Potected Status is a timely manner. One day, we'll all be free. But today, that's not the case for too many.
What a gross distortion of the law (by the plaintiffs side and woke judges)!
The Book of Mormon is right on point when it repeatedly warns of lawyers and those who are "expert in many words" who "use much flattery, and much power of speech" to distort and deceive.
"I say unto you, that the foundation of the destruction of this people is beginning to be laid by the unrighteousness of your lawyers and your judges." - Alma 10:27
Despite these corrupt lawyers & judges, I believe our nation is turning back to the Supreme Creator.
Check out the entire chapter 10 of Alma.
the book of mormon 💀💀💀
What does woke mean
Mind your own business!!
Yeah, leave our kids alone!!
Hopefully the Supreme Court will have some common sense, the drugs they put these kids on before & after surgery are not even FDA authorized.
Joe Biden said I won’t take the vaccine, I’ll take if the scientists say so, the fda approved it there’s no ifs. Soo this is why the government needs to go! doge!
@@16BitDungeonyes, please leave the Trans Kids alone. They are not your responsibility. They are the responsibility of their parents. Not yours.
@@Mfgsjsneiebeb1234 a trans kid is a child that is being abused by his/her parents
@@Mr.JoeBangles 100%
Phobia - the fear of.
Everyone should have a phobia of hurting children!!
"irrational fear, horror, or aversion; fear of an imaginary evil or undue fear of a real one"
@4eveRFab how does it hurt them
@@Tracy-m3nask Riley Gaines
@hsmd4533 is she trans
I find it funny that the Supreme Court of the United States of America is determining their Americans' rights via international affairs of the world. We need to remember what 'Seperation of Powers' means.
They aren’t at all they are saying it should be left up to the states to decide you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
Gagged
I hate to be so directive to protestant ideologies and the historic trails that have followed. This is what happens when people believe that faith alone validates one's active living. Works matter. This is sorta a which hunt >:3.
By the way . . . I am Catholic 😉
In name only
The fact that I've pushed this onto the table by doing entirely nothing proves my point. ❤
1:53:48 oh no whatever shall we do. It's almost like it's worked for everyone else literally ever. Victim card cause the world won't cater to ur feelings 😢😂😂😂