For anyone reading in the future: Dont be a cheap like me and buy the foam from china as it barely holds the back of the cone. Also I seem to have trouble getting PVA glue to adhere the foam to the metal frame, so use neoprene glue like the expert in the video recommends :)
Sintelan, od njega se vesanje uvije, treba sacekati da se lepak osusi pa tek onda lepiti, postoji i lepak za sundjer od koga vesanje ne reaguje ali je malo sporiji proces susenja pa nije za ovaj video
#question Help me please. I have the JBL On Air Control 2.4, but I have the problem that only the speaker with the power input works and the other one doesn't (yes both LED`s are green). I connected them as per the description with speaker cables - it's so frustrating. I lost the remote, but I can live with it since I can control mute and volume from my PC's settings. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this?
Well its complicated to answer that, you need tools to check if amp is working for that speaker, and if its working, than you need to trace signal to find fault
a Elapren 1150, on lepi sundjer? Jos jedno pitanje imam tvoja vesanja, za bose 901 i manje 4", odavno sam ih kupio a tek sada se spremam da ih koristim, skoro da sam ih pomesao a onda vidim da nisu iste debljine ovi od 4" su deblji od bose901. Da li je to namerno ili je takav foam naisao od koga si pravio?
Hello friend, if you have someone in Serbia, who can bring it to you in Greece, than we can make it happen... But elsewhere im not sure... I also have friends in Bulgaria, you can buy it there
Pozdrav gledao sam tvoja vesanja,puklo mi je mehamicki sam pocepao slucajno na wooferu vesanje u pitanju je PIONEER 1300W,300WRSM 12" MODEL-ts-w304r da li imas za taj tip vesanje i da li bi ti hteo da repariras? I cena me zanima pozdrav
@@Denis-do7xo well, it looks like a ground problem, you may check if the amp is grounded. Or maybe add a resistor between preamp and amp, maybe 1000 Ohm, from channel + to - or ground, it depends what kind of hum is it. In most cases its amp input, too sensitive, so you make a little connection with -, it works like potentiometer on the preamp
@@Beautyoutofruin i glue surround and cone, when that is done, i glue the out surface, and than when you play music, the coil wants to be centered, because of the magnet, he center it and magnetic field pushes it in the right direction, and while glue on the basket is still fresh you can correct it... Without taking out the dust cap and destroying the original look, i do this for a few years and never have the problem, after me you can play 15Hz and it will be fine. Sometimes when you take of the dust cup and use foil to center it, if the basket is not well made it can be the problem, many baskets are bent or twisted... After this assembly there are no problems and the speaker looks and sounds like brand new. There are other ways, but i use this because its fast, speaker looks like original and it never makes a problem
I’ve been doing this for over 32+ years for a living. You should be able to remove the dust cover nicely, if you cannot (because of the types of glue) replace it with the equivalent. Your method is a way, but not accurate way of centring, the cone flexes so too does the coil. There are some drivers that this method will not work due to narrow gaps between coil windings and top plates etc. I’ve seen it all.
They are available on Shoppee. The problem is the measurements are given in inches. The specs says 10 cm, which converts to 4 inches roughly. Is this on correct?
@@doxzlaborathory this post popped up again in my notifications. I did end up buying a 5 inch foam and the speaker is now repaired. Surprisingly it sounds better than my 30 year old Tannoy PBM 6.5 ii studio reference monitors!
Zdravo, da li saljes u Bosnu ? Treba mi sundjer za Punto mk2 sporting fabricki woofer. Uzeo bi vise komada sundjera, sa ljepilom, ako prodajes neko bolje od sintelana. Dimenzije su sljedece: 82-90-111-123 (ova zadnja moze do 126). Na ebayu nema ovih dimenzija, a slicne dimenzije su guma, a i to bi morao skracivati kako gledam. Lp
@@doxzlaborathory Da mi je tvoje mjesto blize, dosao bi licno, ali nazalost nemam nikog tamo, nit ko da ide u tom pravcu. Da li bi cijena svega (sa postarinom i carinom) bila preko 2500 dinara ? Jer otprilike toliko bi me izaslo preko ebaya (a i ne znam hoce li mjere biti dobre). Narucio bi jos spuzvi (za prednje zvucnike), da iskoristim tu postarinu i carinu do maxa.
Yeah, behind, on almost every JBL speaker,... Its harder, so many people put it on front surface, but this is how it should be, like original speaker was made
hi thanks for the very valuable demo
I really don't understand why they keep on using this bloody foam
Rubber is never ending
Thank you for the video and your efforts, BUT PLEASE, change that music, almost I get crazy and got a strong headache! Greetings
Thank you, it was a problem to find some free to use music, but in the future i will make some custom music for my videos, Cheers!
@@doxzlaborathory i find the music great ;-)
For anyone reading in the future: Dont be a cheap like me and buy the foam from china as it barely holds the back of the cone. Also I seem to have trouble getting PVA glue to adhere the foam to the metal frame, so use neoprene glue like the expert in the video recommends :)
Sintelan, od njega se vesanje uvije, treba sacekati da se lepak osusi pa tek onda lepiti, postoji i lepak za sundjer od koga vesanje ne reaguje ali je malo sporiji proces susenja pa nije za ovaj video
Can you please list all the materials and glue types you used ? A lot of us would greatly appreciate it! Thank you for the video !
I make foam surround, and i use neoprene glue
@@doxzlaborathory do u sell it]
#question Help me please. I have the JBL On Air Control 2.4, but I have the problem that only the speaker with the power input works and the other one doesn't (yes both LED`s are green). I connected them as per the description with speaker cables - it's so frustrating. I lost the remote, but I can live with it since I can control mute and volume from my PC's settings. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this?
Well its complicated to answer that, you need tools to check if amp is working for that speaker, and if its working, than you need to trace signal to find fault
ohh sounds complicated, but thx for the info @@doxzlaborathory 👍
What's the idea behind two layers of glue?
You can do it with one layer, but with two is easier, the foam doesn't react so much and they make faster and stronger connection
@@doxzlaborathory thanks for the answer - makes sense :)
@@skipperbentdk no problem, thank you for watching
@@doxzlaborathory thanks for the video fren :)
Hi, what type of sound you are using for move testing?
For bass speaker, you can use some bass boosted songs from you tube, or you can use some 50Hz signal
a Elapren 1150, on lepi sundjer? Jos jedno pitanje imam tvoja vesanja, za bose 901 i manje 4", odavno sam ih kupio a tek sada se spremam da ih koristim, skoro da sam ih pomesao a onda vidim da nisu iste debljine ovi od 4" su deblji od bose901. Da li je to namerno ili je takav foam naisao od koga si pravio?
Nisam siguran, treba probati
Hello. I am writing to you from Greece. Do you know where I can buy this sponge
Hello friend, if you have someone in Serbia, who can bring it to you in Greece, than we can make it happen... But elsewhere im not sure...
I also have friends in Bulgaria, you can buy it there
Pozdrav gledao sam tvoja vesanja,puklo mi je mehamicki sam pocepao slucajno na wooferu vesanje u pitanju je PIONEER 1300W,300WRSM 12" MODEL-ts-w304r da li imas za taj tip vesanje i da li bi ti hteo da repariras? I cena me zanima pozdrav
Na zalost za taj model nemam zamensko vesanje
Da li postoji univerzalno neko vesanje za 12 woofer
@@veljkoradisavljevic102 Koji je precnik membrane?
is all the glue still wet, when music is played to center the thing
Yes but its holding enough to make the adjustments if needed
Happened to my jbl control one
Great video, I have same control 1, I'm not sure which model but they're active. They have that static hum, do you know how to fix that?
Do you have that hum when you turn the volume down to minimum
@@doxzlaborathory Yes, it's same whether minimum or maximum and it's same on both.
@@doxzlaborathory is it normal? I don't hear it over music much so I got used used to it, but if I play on low volume it's noticeable...
@@Denis-do7xo well, it looks like a ground problem, you may check if the amp is grounded.
Or maybe add a resistor between preamp and amp, maybe 1000 Ohm, from channel + to - or ground, it depends what kind of hum is it.
In most cases its amp input, too sensitive, so you make a little connection with -, it works like potentiometer on the preamp
@@doxzlaborathory thank you for answer. I took it apart now, do you have email I can send you photos to? It seems to be made in "94.
How do you know that the voicecoil is correctly centred ?
i play 30Hz signal, or bass boosted music, and than you can hear if coil is centered
That’s not the correct way to do it, the coil need to be centred before you glue the assembly to the basket.
@@Beautyoutofruin i glue surround and cone, when that is done, i glue the out surface, and than when you play music, the coil wants to be centered, because of the magnet, he center it and magnetic field pushes it in the right direction, and while glue on the basket is still fresh you can correct it... Without taking out the dust cap and destroying the original look, i do this for a few years and never have the problem, after me you can play 15Hz and it will be fine. Sometimes when you take of the dust cup and use foil to center it, if the basket is not well made it can be the problem, many baskets are bent or twisted... After this assembly there are no problems and the speaker looks and sounds like brand new. There are other ways, but i use this because its fast, speaker looks like original and it never makes a problem
I’ve been doing this for over 32+ years for a living. You should be able to remove the dust cover nicely, if you cannot (because of the types of glue) replace it with the equivalent.
Your method is a way, but not accurate way of centring, the cone flexes so too does the coil. There are some drivers that this method will not work due to narrow gaps between coil windings and top plates etc. I’ve seen it all.
They are available on Shoppee. The problem is the measurements are given in inches. The specs says 10 cm, which converts to 4 inches roughly. Is this on correct?
This model is around 12.5cm, and there is another one, i think around 11.5cm
There are no 10cm models
@@doxzlaborathory oh, oh. I hope I ordered the correct size. I went for 4" (10 cm).
@@christopherkiyui8071 if they say its for JBL C1 than it should be it
Zdravo, dobra 4,5 "suspenzija? Hvala vam.
@@doxzlaborathory this post popped up again in my notifications. I did end up buying a 5 inch foam and the speaker is now repaired. Surprisingly it sounds better than my 30 year old Tannoy PBM 6.5 ii studio reference monitors!
Hi Im from Malaysia.. Can I know where I can get the Speaker Repair Kit for JBL Control 1?
Im not sure where you can find it, maybe on ebay... Its not easy to send it from Europe, its expensive
@@doxzlaborathory tq
Hi, what glue do you use?
Its like regular glue for rubber and foam, nothing special
Dalibor Milovanovic thank you. Would normal PVA glue be ok?
@@playbackvintagehifihunter9669 well, i saw people using it, for small speakers like this its probably ok
Dalibor Milovanovic ok that’s great. Thanks for your help
We’re is find this foam!!
Probably e-bay
Koliko parinja za dva 167mm zvucnika ?
Na kupujem prodajem me nađite, ime oglasa je " Vesanja, kalote, centratori za zvucnike"
@@doxzlaborathory važi, da li ima iskaza cena i za ruke?
@@expert20valvehlx dogovoricemo tamo
Zdravo, da li saljes u Bosnu ? Treba mi sundjer za Punto mk2 sporting fabricki woofer. Uzeo bi vise komada sundjera, sa ljepilom, ako prodajes neko bolje od sintelana. Dimenzije su sljedece: 82-90-111-123 (ova zadnja moze do 126). Na ebayu nema ovih dimenzija, a slicne dimenzije su guma, a i to bi morao skracivati kako gledam. Lp
Zdravo, ja mogu poslati, ali je visoka cena poste i carine... Najbolje je ako imas nekog ko to moze da ti prenese preko granice
@@doxzlaborathory Da mi je tvoje mjesto blize, dosao bi licno, ali nazalost nemam nikog tamo, nit ko da ide u tom pravcu. Da li bi cijena svega (sa postarinom i carinom) bila preko 2500 dinara ? Jer otprilike toliko bi me izaslo preko ebaya (a i ne znam hoce li mjere biti dobre). Narucio bi jos spuzvi (za prednje zvucnike), da iskoristim tu postarinu i carinu do maxa.
@@DavorBa mogu proveriti
Pisi mi na doxzlaborathory@gmail.com
@@doxzlaborathory Ok hvala, pisem ti, a u medjuvremenu cu izmjerit ostale zvucnike. Lp
foam goes BEHIND ??? not sure about that
Yeah, behind, on almost every JBL speaker,... Its harder, so many people put it on front surface, but this is how it should be, like original speaker was made