i operate a large scale hot stamp press for a living (outside of the disc golf universe), and it’s definitely something that takes a lot of trial and error to master. every color of foil behaves differently. gold tends to be the easiest to use tho, while colors like metallic pink are a struggle.
ah, that's interesting. I've got a variable temp soldering iron and was going to make a spoon or similar attachment, and try and forcefully roll over pre-cut bits of foil on a disc to see if I can find a pressure and rhythm that works. Sounds like that is quite unlikely to succeed.. but it must be possible so far as I can understand it, just might take a long time to get ninja enough. What do you reckon.. total waste of time or worry a try?
@@subspaceanomaly it might work in the sense that you could successfully transfer foil on to the disc, but i think it would be pretty challenging to make any sort of intentional design on the disc. i’d have concerns about the temperature of the soldering iron, unless yours can operate below 400°, as well as the pressure required to transfer. i print on paper and operate the press anywhere between 195-310° depending on the foil used (they are operating at an even lower temp in the vid), and the die is only in contact with the paper for a fraction of a second. i think you might run into issues with melting the plastic on the disc. but this is only information from a guy who has never tried what you’re describing, so it might be worth a shot. let me know how it turns out if you give it a go.
@@chswrkmn6508 the Fahrenheit measurements threw me, the iron goes down to 200 c which is hotter. I had the idea to get a foil and just work it over the whole flight plate working it from the centre to the edge. I'm not really sure how the foil works, is it designed to separate under heat? having watched this and another vid I'm still unsure what is happening, but I think if I just try to go for full coverage I can overlay crap areas, though with the holographic foils I guess the pattern will alter. Love that holographic silver effect. rainbows on the disc golf course would make me happy so that's the dream. If I can't get the pressure I could adapt a drill press and tesselate my way to nirvana. Interesting that foiling has been around for so long, saw a press on ebay that's over 100 years old.!
@@subspaceanomaly there are multiple layers to the foils that are indiscernible to the naked eye. the important layer is the one that would be in contact with the disc, the release layer. this layer has a heat activated adhesive that bonds the foil to the disc in accordance to where pressure is applied. in general, the higher the temperature, the lower the pressure required to release, and vice versa. also the greater the surface area of the die, the greater the pressure required to release.
Any word from the PDGA if discs stamped post production are legal for tournament use? Last I heard it they were considered illegal, but they were working on clarifying the rules.
@@yomammamilf1980 January 31,2022 the PDGA's response to several questions: including this exact question (what is considered post production, and Is there a process to become a company or individual that is approved to apply hot stamps to discs while maintaining the legality of the disc) was "The Technical Standards Working Group is currently working through these issues." Prior to that in 2021 the response to someone asking from Australia was that it was considered modifying a disc post production as it added a detectible thickness and was 100% illegal. -just wanting people to know the facts before they get themselves in a situation with an overly strict TD.
@@ThorHargrave I wonder if that got anywhere. Dying discs is fine and can potentially change the discs a bit if you heat them up. Pdga should just allow it
i operate a large scale hot stamp press for a living (outside of the disc golf universe), and it’s definitely something that takes a lot of trial and error to master. every color of foil behaves differently. gold tends to be the easiest to use tho, while colors like metallic pink are a struggle.
ah, that's interesting. I've got a variable temp soldering iron and was going to make a spoon or similar attachment, and try and forcefully roll over pre-cut bits of foil on a disc to see if I can find a pressure and rhythm that works. Sounds like that is quite unlikely to succeed.. but it must be possible so far as I can understand it, just might take a long time to get ninja enough. What do you reckon.. total waste of time or worry a try?
@@subspaceanomaly it might work in the sense that you could successfully transfer foil on to the disc, but i think it would be pretty challenging to make any sort of intentional design on the disc. i’d have concerns about the temperature of the soldering iron, unless yours can operate below 400°, as well as the pressure required to transfer. i print on paper and operate the press anywhere between 195-310° depending on the foil used (they are operating at an even lower temp in the vid), and the die is only in contact with the paper for a fraction of a second. i think you might run into issues with melting the plastic on the disc. but this is only information from a guy who has never tried what you’re describing, so it might be worth a shot. let me know how it turns out if you give it a go.
@@chswrkmn6508 the Fahrenheit measurements threw me, the iron goes down to 200 c which is hotter. I had the idea to get a foil and just work it over the whole flight plate working it from the centre to the edge. I'm not really sure how the foil works, is it designed to separate under heat? having watched this and another vid I'm still unsure what is happening, but I think if I just try to go for full coverage I can overlay crap areas, though with the holographic foils I guess the pattern will alter. Love that holographic silver effect. rainbows on the disc golf course would make me happy so that's the dream. If I can't get the pressure I could adapt a drill press and tesselate my way to nirvana. Interesting that foiling has been around for so long, saw a press on ebay that's over 100 years old.!
@@chswrkmn6508 thanks for your insights
@@subspaceanomaly there are multiple layers to the foils that are indiscernible to the naked eye. the important layer is the one that would be in contact with the disc, the release layer. this layer has a heat activated adhesive that bonds the foil to the disc in accordance to where pressure is applied. in general, the higher the temperature, the lower the pressure required to release, and vice versa. also the greater the surface area of the die, the greater the pressure required to release.
"Look at that" (flashes dosc for 2 milliseconds)
Same hot press machine is $100 on alibaba!
Any word from the PDGA if discs stamped post production are legal for tournament use? Last I heard it they were considered illegal, but they were working on clarifying the rules.
I believe infinite stamps their discs post production from innova so are all of their discs illegal
@@yomammamilf1980 January 31,2022 the PDGA's response to several questions: including this exact question (what is considered post production, and Is there a process to become a company or individual that is approved to apply hot stamps to discs while maintaining the legality of the disc) was "The Technical Standards Working Group is currently working through these issues." Prior to that in 2021 the response to someone asking from Australia was that it was considered modifying a disc post production as it added a detectible thickness and was 100% illegal. -just wanting people to know the facts before they get themselves in a situation with an overly strict TD.
@@ThorHargrave I wonder if that got anywhere. Dying discs is fine and can potentially change the discs a bit if you heat them up. Pdga should just allow it
more of this content ! maybe disc dyes too??
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Ooooh I caught that little hint, sounds like the retail store is going to offer custom hot-stamping?
I’m not a smart man, but isn’t the foil upside down when he stamps it?
You’re the man Silas, idc what hunter says about you.
Great video now stamp the shit out of Trevor and hunters discs!!! 😂
But can we have our own sick foundation logo?
We'll see about that one 👀👀
Why does Plastic Addict start at #13?
I'm gonna start hot-stamping my discs, sorry Sharpie.
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Good Lord that was difficult to listen to