I love that no matter how many different spider-people there are with different nationalities, backgrounds, genders, voice actors, etc. JK Simmons is always J Jonah Jameson in every dimension
I also wondered why Miles didn't turn invisible when fleeing the Spider Society... but then he reveals he was leading them away from the HQ, and he does turn invisible and heads back. He wasn't trying to escape, he was deliberately leading them on a chase.
Ye that makes sense if we also don't realise they all know where he's going back to, so being invisible is kind of redundant and there's no reason no one caught up to him 😅 but we can forget about that
@@tiagodelgado1214he turns invisible so nobody can catch him on the way back and the reason nobody else catches up to him is because they were all piled up on the train thing and most of them probably didn't know what was going on
@@tiagodelgado1214It’s not redundant though because, as you said, they know exactly where he would go if he turned invisible, which is the “Go Home” machine. So it was important for him to lead all of them away from the machine before going back to it himself, otherwise Miguel would have grabbed him before the weird teleporty spider had time to build its teleporty shield.
When miles meets himself in a different multiverse his doppleganger says that his name is 'Miles Morales' in a more spanish accent than the one we know. I wonder if they included that detail because his dad has died in his world and his mums accent has a greater impact on how he speaks?
Many franchises try to do a multiverse concept (Rick and Morty, Fringe, Sliders, MCU, etc) but I think the spiderverse movies have handled it the best so far
CoG should play Shattered Dimensions and maybe watch 90s Spiderman final episodes Secret Wars and Spider Wars before the release of Beyond the Spiderverse
To me the fact that theyre trying to make sure the cannon events happen is a commentary on how so often comic book storys repeat the same elements. When ever there a new run of a popular comic book character or movie adaption comes out the stories very rarely introduced many new elements they simply reintroduced old characters and ideas.
@@Funkeyman of course of course, but I mean is it really commentary like what is their comment? Is it positive? is it negative? It just seems like they are pointing out it’s a thing and then using it for their story but not really having anything else to add (yet)
@@stabbityjoe7588 well considering the plot revoles around trying to stop a cannon even I'd say the film it's saying that a strict adhesion to cannon in this way limits what you can say and do with a super hero story. That just my opinion of it anyway. (Sorry if I sounded condescending I didn't mean to lol)
@@Funkeyman I see what you mean and I hope you’re right and I hope they take that concept even farther in the third movie. As it stands though I kinda got Last Jedi vibes from the canon event scene. like the characters are pointing out a trope that is limiting the franchise but then do nothing to break free of it.
There was a scene in the film where they talk about Miguel "being a vampire" and I think Miles says "Sounds like a good movie, I'd pay money to see that" or something like that, and I swear that's a Morbius refrence.
Gwen describes Miguel to miles as a vampire cyberpunk Spiderman (or something like that) and miles responds with "a vampire good guy? I'd pay money to see that"
I do like how this movie overcomes the problem of being "the middle part" by having Gwen's story be the main emotional arc of the film. Like yeah, we have Miles' problems spreading throughout the whole trilogy, but Gwen's fight with her dad provides satisfying emotional conclusion for this movie so the audience doesn’t leave feeling like they got jipped out of a third act.
I still felt unsatisfied with the ending, especially since we don’t really see Captain Stacy’s changes. It’s reasonable to assume over the months he had a change of heart, but we didn’t see anything so that emotional catharsis fell flat for me. I feel like I can’t fully love this movie until the second part comes out since it’s inherently incomplete
Not only that, we also get a conclusion on Gwen's friendship. At the start of the movie, she doesnt really vibe with her bandmates and doesnt have friends. In the end, she formed her own band with her new (and old) friends.
The spider from earth-42 was actually meant to bite Miles in that dimension, you can see it in Spot’s backstory flashback that the spider he pulled from earth-42 was walking towards the Miles with braided hair. Assumedly if Miles 42 got bit then his uncle would’ve stayed the Prowler and he would’ve been Spider-Man, with Miles from 1610 becoming the Prowler at some point.
@@Wico90YT nah in the movie you can see the spider walking towards a guy with braided hair, I seriously doubt Peter Parker on Earth 42 had braided hair
@@Wico90YT that’s not at all true, Peter may be the most common person to get bit in every universe, but that doesn’t mean it’s meant to bite him. It’s random chance who it bites, and in universe 42 by random chance it was going to bite Miles.
I watched Into the Spider-Verse after watching this movie and its insane how many little details they reference and such, they absolutely had this whole thing planned out
I love how no matter what kind of character a spider person is, or how many spider people there are, they all have the same struggle at some point: defeating Corn of Coblin.
That’s if you ignore how much the different styles clash with each other. The Miles costume having no webs on it. And the background looking like the either could not figure out how they wanted them to look or like water color. For an Indie low budget movie it would look great but this is a high budget Hollywood blockbuster. Hell the first Spiderverse movie had better backgrounds than the new one.
I think I need to go back and take some LSD ahead of time. Every frame is so beautiful in its own right and I can not imagine how much a brilliant experience that would be.
@@BlinksAwakening I think you are in need of getting your head out of the clouds. It not bad but it sure as fuck ain't 2D Disney or even Pixar level not even close.
And this is why those stuck-up Hollywood elites need to accept that animation is a valid form of cinema. That type of frame-by-frame "perfection" -- wherein you can pause at any given moment and see a fully realized, standalone piece of art -- is something you can only achieve through animation. Live-action can only dream of that sort of thing.
That spiderman india costume is absolutely stunning. It really is just gorgeous. Also, the artwork in Gwens universe is just gorgeous, i love the abstract watercolours of it
i think the reason he is a bit better sometimes is,,, even before he gets his powers he seems to be ambidextrous, using two spray cans at once. awesome film.
OH MY GOD HE ISSS PROBABLY AMBIDEXTROUS OML im definitely gonna watch these, but that would also be why he's so good at both art and science!!! Right AND left brained istg these movies!!!
Awesome video as always! One thing I'll say is that at 21:05, I think you've got it wrong (this is spoilers so if you want to read it, click read more) The spider from Earth-42 wasn't meant to bite Peter Parker but it was actually meant to bite the Miles Morales of that earth. New Rockstars has a great video on it as well, I think it's the most recent spider-verse video they've done. I can't remember the specific scene that we got showed it, but when we see the spider in The Spots "flashback" scene, we see the spider walking towards Earth-42s Miles, it's clear that it's Miles cause of the dreadlocks he has, same as what he had when we saw him at the end of the movie.
Yeah, I've seen a number of UA-cam reviews/discussions (that aren't New Rockstars) state that the spider from Earth-42 was supposed to bite Peter. It definitely was gonna bite Miles, as evidenced by that Spot "flashback" shot that you're talking about.
There’s a moment in the film where Miles utters “two months…pfff I’m Spider-Man, I’m not grounded…” and when I heard that it gave me peak silver age Spider-Man vibes I can’t really explain why but I loved it.
Hahaha he may of said that and meant it, but he then proceeded to grab his headphones and lay on his bead after that, so he wasn't gonna disobey his parents. Also seemed he was at the age, and it was a party going on, he was able to cunn his way to going with Gwen. But they kept upping the grounded sentence don't forget that hahahaha
In regards to the sound mixing, the only time I had any issues with hearing anything in the movie was during the opening dialogue because the music was just so loud. Outside of that I didn't have any issues with it. For reference, I saw this on a standard screen at a Cinemark location in the US. I've heard different theaters are having different issues depending on their audio setup.
We saw it at a Cinemark and the opening audio was super muddy. I was really worried the music would outplay the dialog for the whole movie, but it was less noticeable the longer the movie went on. Some of Spider-Punk's stuff was hard, but that might have been a combo of unexpected accent when he was introduced, soundtrack, and action scenes.
@@jamielindemann2428 nah there was definitely some bad maxing during the spider punk intro scene, I'm British and I could barely understand a word, but after that one scene it was okay and I could understand everything
That spider was always supposed to bite a Miles Morales. You can see it in the black and white segment where Miles could see what Spot was planning. You see a Miles with braids to the side of his head.
I think the movie does push story, especially for animation This is the first animated movie that I feel like the characters talk to eachother for more than 10 seconds, all the conversations feel like they have room to breathe, and room to happen None of the tension comes from people being rushed around and not having time to talk to eachother It was really refreshing
Definitely agree, it didn't feel like we need this one character to say this thing we can call back to later, everything felt like natural conversations
One thing you kind of messed up, there’s more than one cannon event. The cannon event described in this one isn’t the uncle Ben one. Miguel specifies it as ASM#90 ( a reference to the comic where captain Stacey dies ). So each spider man has multiple cannon events that have to happen
My idea was that the cannon events are all based around the lessons that Spiderman needs to learn. He needs to be bit to learn that anyone can be powerful. He needs Uncle Ben to die as a consequence of his actions to learn that he needs to step up and be the hero. He needs the police captain to die because he saved someone else to learn that he can't always save everyone ---- I never read the comics, but I'd imagine that the other cannon events follow a similar pattern. Like, it's not that important that Spiderman wears a certain outfit, but it is important that he's done xyz. One of the things I'm kind of hoping for in the sequel is am exploration of this stuff. Maybe Miguel claims that all Spiderpeople go through these events because, in his mind, someone who hasn't gone through those things isn't Spiderman
@@isaacgruver7061also see ti like Batman, story lines and characters that always happens. Always has a robin, a robin always does and comes back as red hood, has his back broken by Bane, family dying of course.
I can get behind that 100%. What a fever dream of a movie. A crime movie that was so bad that they cut out most of the adult oriented material and added a scene with a singing kangaroo and just released it as a kid movie
@@nicklafleur7620 i’ve been making this comment for months hoping James and Mason see it (I live in the states so my response tends to be too late due to time zones)
Fantastic movie truly PEAK CINEMA, it was dope how they made everything connected and I love how each universe had a different style or medium to really show how they're really in a different universe. Also funny how bagels being are at the center of a multiverse threat happened in 2 completely separate movies (Across the Spider-Verse and Everything Everywhere)
He doesn't go invisible during the chase scene because his plan is to get them all to chase him out of headquarters. He needs to be visible for that to happen.
I loved it Talk about every frame a painting, it looked amazing, especially the scenes with Gwen and her dad and I don't know if it's just me but I was getting some Basquiat vibes from Spot's look when he got powered up. The central conflict is great and great use of metatext The reveal with Earth 42 and the mom was great,they distracted me enough to forget about the spider and i'm pretty sure Earth-42 Miles got an A+ in Spanish , my boy was rolling those R's The stand outs were Hobie and Pavitr, they stole the show for me
That makes total sense that Earth 42 Miles has better Spanish since he is being raised by his mom. So he is probably getting a higher percentage of Spanish at home.
This movie is rad. I won't say that it's better than the first movie since i forgot to rewatch it beforehand, but I walked out of the theater loving Across the Spider-Verse when I needed a rewatch to really get what Into the Spider-Verse was doing. Maybe it's because I knew more of what I was in for, I don't know, but for me, it's feeling like Across might be better, but it also needs Beyond the Spider-Verse to really wrap things up and be great, so we still have to wait for that to happen. Regardless, beautiful movie, engaging characters, fantastic action, it was a blast.
the reason why this movie works where NWH failed is that this movie actually explored multiverse and the idea that anything that can happen happens. that not everyone is gonna look like you in another dimention and thats also why everything everywhere all at once also succeeded by exploring the sausage finger universe. NWH was just fan service but failed at the idea of multiverse.
NWH drew people in, but everyone knew they were there to see the characters from the Tobey Maguire movies, and it delivered on that. (Plus a little more. The characters who really stole that movie were Dafoe's Green Goblin, and... *Andrew Garfield's* Spider-Man.) As a "multiverse" story, yeah, it wasn't much.
Idk if this will come back but in the flashback while 2099 is telling miles about how breaking the canon is dangerous his “new” world is glitching out like a person would if they were in the wrong universe and are then wiped away, whereas in Mumbattan there’s just a massive black hole in the ground after the spot fucks around. Which leads me to believe breaking the canon doesn’t mean cause shit to happen and Miguel caused that annhilation simply by overstaying his welcome in a different universe thanks to his watch thing. Cuz as it seemed in the retelling too Miguel doesn’t even break canon he just replaces an already dead Miguel o’Hera who wasn’t Spider-Man.
I also want a Spider-Man Unlimited movie. That show was underrated & the Symbiotes looked more alien. You can also see Unlimited in multiple scenes in the movie. 🔥
The spider from Earth-42 was actually supposed to bite that Miles, you can see it when The Spot is explaining his backstory, the spider gets sucked into Earth-1610 just before it goes to bite the Miles with braided hair, so instead he became the Prowler
I'm inclined to agree that none of the characters we've met should be okay with letting people die because they're "fated to." But on top of that, the metaphysics is sketchy. Either things are fated, or they're not. If they're fated, then the collider is fated, and Miles was supposed to be Spiderman. If disrupting cannon destroys a universe, why is 42 not destroyed? 2099 takes the place of his alternate self; maybe this is a "contamination" that destroys the universe. However, if the idea is that Gwen and Miles will "get together" in the end, then this metaphysics works against the love story. The Indian Spiderman's universe problem DOES seem to be "Spot related" and seems significantly different than 2099's flashback. Now, I *get* that the idea of cannon is meta, but if the meta is metaphysically accurate, the universe sucks. But it can't be metaphysically accurate narratively, so we're stuck with a universe full of Spidermen who serve as passive obvservers. I take it the idea is that only a few people go to other worlds, and rarely do they get the chance to disrupt cannon... but if my boss tells me that THE UNIVERSE WILL IMPLODE if I save a child, I'm not just going to believe him.
@@_Vesper ... actually the movie suggests otherwise, that there are a finite number of ways things can go, as the moment things go differently in these other realities, they collapse. To use Rick & Morty parlance, it's the Central Finite Curve of canon... bullshit.
@@williamsimkulet7832 If they go differently they collapse... which is exactly what it's showing the spidermen not to do, not to have it go differently
Spoilers: I thought the same thing why didn't Miles turn himself invisible when everybody was after him but then when he lured everybody out only to then disappear was super really clever.
I don’t know why they blame miles and say he caused everything. His uncle took him to the subway alley to paint and the kingpin fired up the accelerator that caused the spider to cross over. He did nothing wrong
I think it's more so that his existence as it is now caused the problem and they were trying to contain it, but obviously he wasn't having any of it which turned him into the problem more literally
One thing of note is that spiderman 2099 didn't get bit he injects the spider powers into him. This makes him a huge hypocrite because he's saying all this stuff about the exact destiny each spider person has to go through while he himself skipped all that
28:40 I call bullshit on that reference. In Doctor Strange 2, it’s established by Christine-838 that the MCU is called Earth-616, NOT Earth-199999. Plus, in the same movie, America and Stephen change when they cross universes. They turn into cartoons and paint. We’ve seen that in the Spiderverse you stay in your native art style when you cross universes. I’m relieved that the Spiderverse is definitely separate from the MCU because trying to keep up with Phase 4 is already a headache and a half
When Pavtr's world is being destroyed, I realize that Miles saving the captain may not necessarily be the reason why the Pavitr's world started to be consumed by the quantum hole. I'm pretty sure the collider had fallen where the hole was opening up. I think it was The Spot triggering the collider and it's subsequent collapse that caused Mumbatton to be consumed and Miles just happened to be there. (Just a theory)
25:08 that wasn’t the canon-breaking. That was Spot. Miles points this out specifically. Captain Stacy-65 breaks the canon and his dimension is doing fine. Same for Earth-42 and Earth-1610.
They actually do acknowledge the other art styles! right at the beginning with the renaissance culture they mention how he looks like he’s “made of paper”
Unfortunately they don’t react to the real life people like Donald glover! It must be so freaky to see a human like that as a more cartoony 2d shaded person living in their universe.
This may well have overtaken my favorite superhero movie ever, which was up to this point Infinity War. And might be the most beautiful work of entertainment art I've ever bore witness to. Can not wait to go see it again.
The Spider from Unierse 42 was supposed to bit Miles from that universe. It is shown in the glimpses of what should've been and you can see young Miles with braids (the same braids Prowler have in the end). There might be Peter Parker, but it was Miles who was supposed to be bitten there. We can safely assume that all of those characters, unless they are like certain game or animated characters are NOT the same characters that were in the comics. This Miles is not the comic book Miles, it's different "variant". It's not that Miles shouldn't be Spider-Man, it's that particular Miles shoulnd't be.
I loved it, and I was genuinely caught off guard by the cliffhanger ending. I had no idea this was a two-parter going in. I wasn't even feeling the runtime of the movie at that point. I was perfectly happy to keep sitting there until we got to the epic finale. I spent most of the movie just hoping Japanese Spider-Man would show up, so I was very distracted looking for him.
Dude yeah i watched it with friends, i couldn't believe it, i didnt stand up until the end of the credits i kept being like no no no way this canNOT be happening they are messing with us no no no
The new ninja turtles seems to adapt very similar animation and it looks great, but this movie was like WOAH. I'm gonna have to watch it at least 10x to see half of what's in there. Fantastic film.
I think Mutant Mayhem, at least from what we've seen, is a good example of a movie showing a clear influence from something without taking the wrong lessons. It's not a multiverse thing, just a hopefully fresh take on that franchise with an art style that's more interesting than the typical kid's movie. Though actually Turtles did already do a multiverse crossover way back in 2009 with the original comics Turtles and the 80s and 2000s cartoon Turtles running into each other.. Anyway, I hope Mutant Mayhem ends up being good.
I think that’s because it is noticeable in her universe. She wasn’t expecting a multiverse thing, she thought that was done and fixed. But at the spiderverse HQ everyone is different so you wouldn’t remark it all the time.
Tbh if I was Peter Parker I would be questioning my free will, having seen my exact same story play out over and over - it would make me feel like no choice I've ever made was truly my own. Yikes.
I had no idea this was a 2 parter, either. So much like your son I was shocked. I was looking at my watch like “man they still have A LOT to do and it’s getting close….how are they going to pull this off?” Then BAM! To be continued.
When the Spot is telling the story of the 42 spider it actually shows the spider creeping up on the 42 universe Miles (with the braided hair) who we meet at the end so maybe 42 Miles WAS actually going to be Spider-Man but become Prowler instead.
AtSV was such a tremendous follow-up to ItSV. I was taken back to my first time seeing Spider-Man 2 back in theaters. The way it's animated, the storytelling, music, and the powerful way it forces it's characters to face their mistakes and the way that they face challenges and the way they go about being Spider-Man, or Woman, is a brilliant package. And the cameos! All so spectacular. Literally, my only complaint is there's no Christopher Daniel Barnes reprising my 90s Spidey. Other than that, it's my favorite Spider-Man anything that's come about in my 32 years of life.
This movie makes me angry. It makes me look at the media I've been consuming the last few months and be like "THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WATCHING???" It's made so much stuff become redundant in quality.
So the spider from universe 42 was supposed to bite that universes miles morales, you can see in the 1st spot flashback it shows the spider near a kid with braids that look just like that universes miles
@BatRoulette in miles universe yes, plus universe 42 miles could've taken the mantle from his uncle after his father's death. I really don't see what the confusion is
What makes this movie so good or at least one of the things is how great all the characters are. I was hooked at the beginning with just Gwen to the point if it was just her I would’ve been fine with it.
I think one of the (many) reasons why the multiverse idea works so well in Spiderverse while it feels contrived and a cash grab in others is because in Spiderverse, the multiverse creates the story, whereas in others, the story creates the multiverse. In No Way Home (which I admittedly still like a lot) and The Flash, it feels like the multiverse is introduced so that they can have cameos. It feels like an excuse to bring Tobey or Keaton back. In Spiderverse, it feels like the multiverse is directly influencing the story.
Do you think Illumination will do what Disney did 5 years ago and pre-print "BEST ANIMATED PUCTURE WINNER" advertisements for Mario? Does any animated movie this year have a chance at beating Spiderverse at the Oscars?
They’ll definitely try and one up the multiverse, and I can guarantee you it will just be the cast of characters realising they’re actors and they visit our universe, and see how all of their events have been pre-written, and they fight their creators with references to real world events. That’s where it will end.
My only complaint about this movie is that I didn’t know going in that it’s a 2 parter. I was really looking forward to the final fight so when it ended so suddenly I was very disappointed. I guess you know it’s a good movie when the only real real problem is that there wasn’t enough
Hobie Brown is the name of Spider-Punk in the comics. in the punk universe he became spider-punk instead of the prowler. there was a ton of interviews in that era of spider-man where they talked about making all the different spider-people, it’s so hard to find stuff from before 2018 in this new age algorithm ..
On the subject of Hollywood possibly taking the wrong lesson from this movies success, while I'd normally be worried, I did just get an ad for the new TMNT movie in the middle of your video that actually kind of made me less worried. That movie looks like it has heart and great animation that appears to be kind of piggy backing on the Spiderverse animation style
The wrong lesson I’ve seen them take is company’s ripping off the style instead of creating their own and using spiderverse as a jumping off point. Always have to do what’s already proven to work instead of innovating. And then you have Disney all the way in the corner of the classroom adding a 2d toon filter to their new movie “wish” and calling it a day lol.
I feel like the spider from dimension 43 was supposed to bite the Miles from that universe rather than Peter Parker. Thus setting up that our Miles essentially stole Miles 43s hero path. Could be completely wrong about that but kinda what I'm thinking.
The 42 spider was actually supposed to bite that universes Miles. In the scene where we see the spider being teleported to the good Miles’ universe you can see the Miles with the long dreads/braids about to be bit.
11:38 For me I actually couldn't hear the movie very well. it's the only time I've gone to a movie and wondered if there was something wrong with the speakers even durign the first minute of the movie through to the end. as for the ending I actually stepped out to use the restroom because it felt like the right moment and came back to the credits and an empty theatre so I missed the actual ending and left very confused.
unfortunately with it being a long movie there doesn't seem to be a good time for a bathroom break. if anyone hasnt seen it yet n wants a good time to go id go when gwen and miles are swinging around the city in the first act or when miles is speaking with his mum on the tower. thats the only time when you can really go and even then you shouldn't miss those parts
@@ghostmemeboi yeah I completely agree. pretty much anything after that has so much going on and so much worth seeing it's hard to find time to take a break. for a second I was going to say the chase scene because there's not too much story wise happening but you'd be missing some amazing action and maybe miss a great interaction.
@@VSheepVal i absolutely would not miss the chase scene. it was the moment i sat back and really thought to myself, yeah this is a good movie. Despite it not being essential to the plot it's the midpoint where everything comes to ahead, great jokes action and suspense. The first act drags on though and has enough long winded moments that you could leave for a couple minutes and come back and not miss too much.
The 42-spider was meant to bite the 42-Miles. Since it didn't, he fell deeper under the influence of his uncle Aaron after his father died in that world. As the Spot is given his monologue of how the spider accidentally crossed-dimensions, you can see it was getting close to the Miles of that world, who is now the Prowler-Miles. I love movies with subtle foreshadowing like this. very well written.
This movie is so good because it works on so many different dimensions no pun intended. When they tell Miles he was never supposed to be spider man it's so meta to the people who still reject Miles and say he isn't Spider-Man IRL.
Miles was supposed to be Prowler but the spider who bit him, bit him because it was going to bite Miles in Universe 42. Thats why Miles senses was green nd purple when he met Chris Pine Spiderman but turned blue and red
I think the Spider-42 was supposed to bite Miles in that universe. In the beginning when The Spot is explaining how Miles got his powers, there is a split second where you see the Spider-42 sucked into a portal as it was crawling towards Miles (with 2 braids)
If you look at when it shows the spider in its original universe it's heading towards a kid with braids just like the miles in that universe that becomes the prowler
2020s Disney sucks. The 90s was peak, the 2000s was Pixar carrying them, and tbf, they did well in the 2010s… the first half of that decade was a solid run for them. But man, this decade sucks for them.
31:10 He doesn’t turn invisible in the chase scene because his plan was to lure all the spider people away from the headquarters so that he can make it easier for himself to get away into the trans-dimensional pod. It’s very lowkey but he knew what he was doing after getting Miguel off of him.
@22:00 when explaining about the inter-dimensional spider, you see a flashback of the spider about to bite the earth 42 miles Moralez before spot steals it from earth 42. The Earth 42 Miles (who became the prowler) was supposed to be the one who got bit
I think they are combining elements for this Alternate Miles. In the comics Miles meets an evil alternate version of himself called Ultimatum (not the Prowler). I think they made Miles the Prowler because that is his actual archenemesis in the comics. In the comics his uncle remains his main villain and for a short span becomes Iron Spider. I think they'll be canabilizing that. My theory is that Main Miles tries to help Alternate Miles to become a better person and the Spider-Man his world was supposed to have. Instead Alternate Miles is going to continue falling deeper into his uncle's influence and as the Iron Spider will likely be the final main villain alongside the Spot.
!spoiler: n the original comics, the prowler was Hobbie Brown, a troubled super intelligent teenager that Spiderman set on a path of good, in 616. But in the original spiderverse comics, in spider punks (he hates that name lol) universe, Hobbie brown gets bitten by a radioactive spider and fights back against a Harry Osborn president/dictator of the US inspired by British punk culture. Hes based around an alternative design for British Spiderman that was turned into his own character, which is probably why they changed him to British in this movie
Just noticed Lightyear and Across Spider Verse have a similar twist where there's a villain reveal, a doppelganger of the Hero, in Lightyear Zurgg is older corrupt Buzz Lightyear from another timeline, in Across Spider Verse at the end Miles Morales ends up in another universe his counterpart is the Prowler.
This is genuinely my favorite movie of all time, loaded with nostalgia from my comic-nerd childhood, the art is a step above even the first movie which felt groundbreaking at the time, this is just a whole new level of eye candy. somehow the artists and animators managed to truly capture fun itself and beam it into me through the medium of the screen, i have never been so jealous of superpowers in my entire life based purely on how fun everything looked in the movie. love what they did to flesh out the characters, what they did with the comics of course, which was respectful to the characters but also the movie is its own thing, obviously, so there was a ton of new things to be surprised by. couldn't recommend it highly enough.
You know what's weird? The internet spoiled the bagel thing for me, but I wouldn't have remembered that if it wasn't already spoiled. Kinda like how miles wouldn't be doin his thing if he wasn't told his dad was gonna die
Really loved that during the beginning fight in the Met, Gwen mentions how modern art is a meta-contemporary on art, and the plot is characters fighting over how the theme of self-sacrifice for the greater good is essential for being a Spider-Man.
I love that no matter how many different spider-people there are with different nationalities, backgrounds, genders, voice actors, etc. JK Simmons is always J Jonah Jameson in every dimension
never forget tasm 2, where an email portrayed him!
@@LothTNeXGEn still would have read it in JKs voice
The movie was the definition of “woke”, and I loved it!
I guess that means jk Simmons voicing him is a cannon event
@@LothTNeXGEn I remember Peter sent an email saying Spider-Man is a good guy, and all JJJ said in response is “Wrong!!!”
I also wondered why Miles didn't turn invisible when fleeing the Spider Society... but then he reveals he was leading them away from the HQ, and he does turn invisible and heads back. He wasn't trying to escape, he was deliberately leading them on a chase.
Ye that makes sense if we also don't realise they all know where he's going back to, so being invisible is kind of redundant and there's no reason no one caught up to him 😅 but we can forget about that
The others would not be bold enough to jump in free fall to chase him back as quickly.
@@tiagodelgado1214he turns invisible so nobody can catch him on the way back and the reason nobody else catches up to him is because they were all piled up on the train thing and most of them probably didn't know what was going on
@@tiagodelgado1214It’s not redundant though because, as you said, they know exactly where he would go if he turned invisible, which is the “Go Home” machine. So it was important for him to lead all of them away from the machine before going back to it himself, otherwise Miguel would have grabbed him before the weird teleporty spider had time to build its teleporty shield.
When miles meets himself in a different multiverse his doppleganger says that his name is 'Miles Morales' in a more spanish accent than the one we know. I wonder if they included that detail because his dad has died in his world and his mums accent has a greater impact on how he speaks?
I think that is exactly the reason.
yep he probably just speaks Spanish at home with mum so it's a stronger accent.
Prowler Miles also has a different voice actor than the original
tfw getting "B in Spanish" was foreshadowing that reveal
That was one of my favorite little touches in the movie.
Many franchises try to do a multiverse concept (Rick and Morty, Fringe, Sliders, MCU, etc) but I think the spiderverse movies have handled it the best so far
CoG should play Shattered Dimensions and maybe watch 90s Spiderman final episodes Secret Wars and Spider Wars before the release of Beyond the Spiderverse
Probably because it explains it in a fairly simple way.
Yeah it just made everything feel connected
100% agreement
MCU's biggest issue is spreading it out over 12 movies, where ITSV and ATSV have done it really well over 1 or 2
To me the fact that theyre trying to make sure the cannon events happen is a commentary on how so often comic book storys repeat the same elements. When ever there a new run of a popular comic book character or movie adaption comes out the stories very rarely introduced many new elements they simply reintroduced old characters and ideas.
Is it a commentary on it or just using it as a meta plot device.
@@stabbityjoe7588 both. Art and stories can simultaneously operate on a literal and a metaphorical level.
@@Funkeyman of course of course, but I mean is it really commentary like what is their comment? Is it positive? is it negative? It just seems like they are pointing out it’s a thing and then using it for their story but not really having anything else to add (yet)
@@stabbityjoe7588 well considering the plot revoles around trying to stop a cannon even I'd say the film it's saying that a strict adhesion to cannon in this way limits what you can say and do with a super hero story. That just my opinion of it anyway. (Sorry if I sounded condescending I didn't mean to lol)
@@Funkeyman I see what you mean and I hope you’re right and I hope they take that concept even farther in the third movie. As it stands though I kinda got Last Jedi vibes from the canon event scene. like the characters are pointing out a trope that is limiting the franchise but then do nothing to break free of it.
There was a scene in the film where they talk about Miguel "being a vampire" and I think Miles says "Sounds like a good movie, I'd pay money to see that" or something like that, and I swear that's a Morbius refrence.
I thought of Blade the first time, but considering this is an alternate reality, maybe Morbius could be a good movie there
Gwen describes Miguel to miles as a vampire cyberpunk Spiderman (or something like that) and miles responds with "a vampire good guy? I'd pay money to see that"
vampire ninja Spiderman but a good guy, yea
I do like how this movie overcomes the problem of being "the middle part" by having Gwen's story be the main emotional arc of the film.
Like yeah, we have Miles' problems spreading throughout the whole trilogy, but Gwen's fight with her dad provides satisfying emotional conclusion for this movie so the audience doesn’t leave feeling like they got jipped out of a third act.
It didn’t overcome that problem though. Gwen’s emotional arc is the least interesting part of the entire movie.
I still felt unsatisfied with the ending, especially since we don’t really see Captain Stacy’s changes. It’s reasonable to assume over the months he had a change of heart, but we didn’t see anything so that emotional catharsis fell flat for me. I feel like I can’t fully love this movie until the second part comes out since it’s inherently incomplete
I agree with the other two replies, it was a good idea but they didn’t pull it off.
@@sombramemer1230 Disagree, I loved Gwen's arc.
Not only that, we also get a conclusion on Gwen's friendship. At the start of the movie, she doesnt really vibe with her bandmates and doesnt have friends. In the end, she formed her own band with her new (and old) friends.
The animation of the entire thing had me awe stuck the entire time. Anytime time in Gwen's world I felt the emotion from it.
The colors of Gwen's universe were breathtaking
Yesss what they did with the warm-cold colors was so great
Why isn’t Gwen drawn like her world???
The spider from earth-42 was actually meant to bite Miles in that dimension, you can see it in Spot’s backstory flashback that the spider he pulled from earth-42 was walking towards the Miles with braided hair. Assumedly if Miles 42 got bit then his uncle would’ve stayed the Prowler and he would’ve been Spider-Man, with Miles from 1610 becoming the Prowler at some point.
Pretty sure every Spider is essentially meant for a Peter Parker, if one exists. 42 was for that universes Parker; not for Miles.
@@Wico90YT nah in the movie you can see the spider walking towards a guy with braided hair, I seriously doubt Peter Parker on Earth 42 had braided hair
@@Wico90YT that’s not at all true, Peter may be the most common person to get bit in every universe, but that doesn’t mean it’s meant to bite him. It’s random chance who it bites, and in universe 42 by random chance it was going to bite Miles.
@@Wico90YT not even. They we wouldn't have different spidermen if that was the case. Not all spider folks are Peter's.
@@Wico90YTGwen, Jessica, Miguel...
The spider glitching in the last film proves that they really had this planned from the start
Damnnn you're right! I never even thought about that!
Wanted to like this but its at 42 & I couldnt ruin it
Or you know, they just took a concept from the first movie and evolved it
It’s just really really smart writing. They didn’t expect sequels, and did a great job tying in bagels and spiders and the collider
I watched Into the Spider-Verse after watching this movie and its insane how many little details they reference and such, they absolutely had this whole thing planned out
I love how no matter what kind of character a spider person is, or how many spider people there are, they all have the same struggle at some point: defeating Corn of Coblin.
I can't believe Leto's contract guarantees him a Morbius cameo in every Spider-Man movie Sony ever makes ever again.
Waaa really?
@@connorschultz380 He's making Morbillions of dollars.
Ghandi :Say WHAAT !?
He is awful
Is he in this movie??
This movie was absolutely beautiful. You can take a picture at any time and hang it on the wall.
I felt like i wanted to eat each frame, it's weird
That’s if you ignore how much the different styles clash with each other. The Miles costume having no webs on it. And the background looking like the either could not figure out how they wanted them to look or like water color. For an Indie low budget movie it would look great but this is a high budget Hollywood blockbuster. Hell the first Spiderverse movie had better backgrounds than the new one.
I think I need to go back and take some LSD ahead of time. Every frame is so beautiful in its own right and I can not imagine how much a brilliant experience that would be.
@@BlinksAwakening I think you are in need of getting your head out of the clouds. It not bad but it sure as fuck ain't 2D Disney or even Pixar level not even close.
And this is why those stuck-up Hollywood elites need to accept that animation is a valid form of cinema. That type of frame-by-frame "perfection" -- wherein you can pause at any given moment and see a fully realized, standalone piece of art -- is something you can only achieve through animation. Live-action can only dream of that sort of thing.
That spiderman india costume is absolutely stunning. It really is just gorgeous. Also, the artwork in Gwens universe is just gorgeous, i love the abstract watercolours of it
i think the reason he is a bit better sometimes is,,, even before he gets his powers he seems to be ambidextrous, using two spray cans at once. awesome film.
OH MY GOD HE ISSS PROBABLY AMBIDEXTROUS OML im definitely gonna watch these, but that would also be why he's so good at both art and science!!! Right AND left brained istg these movies!!!
Awesome video as always! One thing I'll say is that at 21:05, I think you've got it wrong (this is spoilers so if you want to read it, click read more)
The spider from Earth-42 wasn't meant to bite Peter Parker but it was actually meant to bite the Miles Morales of that earth. New Rockstars has a great video on it as well, I think it's the most recent spider-verse video they've done. I can't remember the specific scene that we got showed it, but when we see the spider in The Spots "flashback" scene, we see the spider walking towards Earth-42s Miles, it's clear that it's Miles cause of the dreadlocks he has, same as what he had when we saw him at the end of the movie.
Bumping this so that the lads see it
@@_Amit_Sunil aha thank you boss
I too will bump this.
@@Alfred_Pennyworth_01 appreciate it man
Yeah, I've seen a number of UA-cam reviews/discussions (that aren't New Rockstars) state that the spider from Earth-42 was supposed to bite Peter. It definitely was gonna bite Miles, as evidenced by that Spot "flashback" shot that you're talking about.
There’s a moment in the film where Miles utters “two months…pfff I’m Spider-Man, I’m not grounded…” and when I heard that it gave me peak silver age Spider-Man vibes I can’t really explain why but I loved it.
I'd like to believe that was a "this is bullshit, you can't ground spider-man" reference
Hahaha he may of said that and meant it, but he then proceeded to grab his headphones and lay on his bead after that, so he wasn't gonna disobey his parents. Also seemed he was at the age, and it was a party going on, he was able to cunn his way to going with Gwen. But they kept upping the grounded sentence don't forget that hahahaha
He said just what I was thinking before he said it, just with slightly different words. 😂
In regards to the sound mixing, the only time I had any issues with hearing anything in the movie was during the opening dialogue because the music was just so loud. Outside of that I didn't have any issues with it. For reference, I saw this on a standard screen at a Cinemark location in the US. I've heard different theaters are having different issues depending on their audio setup.
Thank you! I thought I was losing my hearing!!
Yeah, the sound mixing for dialogue was off. A bit annoying, but apparently they're aware and are fixing it for the future.
I saw it in imax and has the same issue with the opening. But after that one sequence it was fine.
We saw it at a Cinemark and the opening audio was super muddy. I was really worried the music would outplay the dialog for the whole movie, but it was less noticeable the longer the movie went on. Some of Spider-Punk's stuff was hard, but that might have been a combo of unexpected accent when he was introduced, soundtrack, and action scenes.
@@jamielindemann2428 nah there was definitely some bad maxing during the spider punk intro scene, I'm British and I could barely understand a word, but after that one scene it was okay and I could understand everything
That spider was always supposed to bite a Miles Morales. You can see it in the black and white segment where Miles could see what Spot was planning. You see a Miles with braids to the side of his head.
I think the movie does push story, especially for animation
This is the first animated movie that I feel like the characters talk to eachother for more than 10 seconds, all the conversations feel like they have room to breathe, and room to happen
None of the tension comes from people being rushed around and not having time to talk to eachother
It was really refreshing
Definitely agree, it didn't feel like we need this one character to say this thing we can call back to later, everything felt like natural conversations
It really was
One thing you kind of messed up, there’s more than one cannon event. The cannon event described in this one isn’t the uncle Ben one. Miguel specifies it as ASM#90 ( a reference to the comic where captain Stacey dies ). So each spider man has multiple cannon events that have to happen
My idea was that the cannon events are all based around the lessons that Spiderman needs to learn.
He needs to be bit to learn that anyone can be powerful.
He needs Uncle Ben to die as a consequence of his actions to learn that he needs to step up and be the hero.
He needs the police captain to die because he saved someone else to learn that he can't always save everyone
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I never read the comics, but I'd imagine that the other cannon events follow a similar pattern. Like, it's not that important that Spiderman wears a certain outfit, but it is important that he's done xyz.
One of the things I'm kind of hoping for in the sequel is am exploration of this stuff. Maybe Miguel claims that all Spiderpeople go through these events because, in his mind, someone who hasn't gone through those things isn't Spiderman
@@isaacgruver7061also see ti like Batman, story lines and characters that always happens. Always has a robin, a robin always does and comes back as red hood, has his back broken by Bane, family dying of course.
Either the canon event thing is BS or a complete missunderstanding by Miguel, that's what all points to
Interesting thoughts man! But its *canon*. A cannon is what is on a pirate ship
Please do a Caravan of Garbage on Kangaroo Jack! It’s set in your native Australia so it’d be perfect!
I can get behind that 100%. What a fever dream of a movie. A crime movie that was so bad that they cut out most of the adult oriented material and added a scene with a singing kangaroo and just released it as a kid movie
@@nicklafleur7620 i’ve been making this comment for months hoping James and Mason see it (I live in the states so my response tends to be too late due to time zones)
Yes
Yes
Fantastic movie truly PEAK CINEMA, it was dope how they made everything connected and I love how each universe had a different style or medium to really show how they're really in a different universe.
Also funny how bagels being are at the center of a multiverse threat happened in 2 completely separate movies (Across the Spider-Verse and Everything Everywhere)
He doesn't go invisible during the chase scene because his plan is to get them all to chase him out of headquarters. He needs to be visible for that to happen.
I loved it
Talk about every frame a painting, it looked amazing, especially the scenes with Gwen and her dad and I don't know if it's just me but I was getting some Basquiat vibes from Spot's look when he got powered up.
The central conflict is great and great use of metatext
The reveal with Earth 42 and the mom was great,they distracted me enough to forget about the spider and i'm pretty sure Earth-42 Miles got an A+ in Spanish , my boy was rolling those R's
The stand outs were Hobie and Pavitr, they stole the show for me
Yup i noticed that in two seconds. That was my latino spiderman. Also Miguel mumbling in Spanish was perfect
@@capitanawesome44 I love this representation does matter not when forced but when cared for
@@Randomaccount9470 love this phrase
That makes total sense that Earth 42 Miles has better Spanish since he is being raised by his mom. So he is probably getting a higher percentage of Spanish at home.
YES
I LOVED SPOT'S BASQUIAT FINAL FORM, NO ONE ELSE MENTIONED IT
This movie is rad. I won't say that it's better than the first movie since i forgot to rewatch it beforehand, but I walked out of the theater loving Across the Spider-Verse when I needed a rewatch to really get what Into the Spider-Verse was doing. Maybe it's because I knew more of what I was in for, I don't know, but for me, it's feeling like Across might be better, but it also needs Beyond the Spider-Verse to really wrap things up and be great, so we still have to wait for that to happen. Regardless, beautiful movie, engaging characters, fantastic action, it was a blast.
I admit that I have seen the first movie 4 times 😅
The graphics on the podcast is a LOT better than Mario watching a dripping tap for over half an hour on a loop! WAY TO GO BEN !!
That one was like a medieval torture istg
the reason why this movie works where NWH failed is that this movie actually explored multiverse and the idea that anything that can happen happens. that not everyone is gonna look like you in another dimention and thats also why everything everywhere all at once also succeeded by exploring the sausage finger universe. NWH was just fan service but failed at the idea of multiverse.
NWH showed you a bunch of things you've seen before, Spiderverse showed us things we couldn't even imagine
@@Wabajak13 I still enjoyed No Way Home because Spider Verse is on another level
I don’t think NWH’s multiverse fails, but if feels way too small
@@juliocortez3757 NWH happened because Tom was being a little whiny crybaby. Spiderverse happened because of accidents in a timeline.
NWH drew people in, but everyone knew they were there to see the characters from the Tobey Maguire movies, and it delivered on that. (Plus a little more. The characters who really stole that movie were Dafoe's Green Goblin, and... *Andrew Garfield's* Spider-Man.) As a "multiverse" story, yeah, it wasn't much.
Idk if this will come back but in the flashback while 2099 is telling miles about how breaking the canon is dangerous his “new” world is glitching out like a person would if they were in the wrong universe and are then wiped away, whereas in Mumbattan there’s just a massive black hole in the ground after the spot fucks around. Which leads me to believe breaking the canon doesn’t mean cause shit to happen and Miguel caused that annhilation simply by overstaying his welcome in a different universe thanks to his watch thing. Cuz as it seemed in the retelling too Miguel doesn’t even break canon he just replaces an already dead Miguel o’Hera who wasn’t Spider-Man.
Each frame could be ART hanged on my wall. MIRACULOUSLY beautiful movie.
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I agree, beautiful🔥🔥
I hope Spider-Man 2099 gets a solo movie from these filmmakers
I also want a Spider-Man Unlimited movie. That show was underrated & the Symbiotes looked more alien. You can also see Unlimited in multiple scenes in the movie. 🔥
The spider from Earth-42 was actually supposed to bite that Miles, you can see it when The Spot is explaining his backstory, the spider gets sucked into Earth-1610 just before it goes to bite the Miles with braided hair, so instead he became the Prowler
I'm inclined to agree that none of the characters we've met should be okay with letting people die because they're "fated to."
But on top of that, the metaphysics is sketchy. Either things are fated, or they're not. If they're fated, then the collider is fated, and Miles was supposed to be Spiderman. If disrupting cannon destroys a universe, why is 42 not destroyed? 2099 takes the place of his alternate self; maybe this is a "contamination" that destroys the universe. However, if the idea is that Gwen and Miles will "get together" in the end, then this metaphysics works against the love story. The Indian Spiderman's universe problem DOES seem to be "Spot related" and seems significantly different than 2099's flashback.
Now, I *get* that the idea of cannon is meta, but if the meta is metaphysically accurate, the universe sucks. But it can't be metaphysically accurate narratively, so we're stuck with a universe full of Spidermen who serve as passive obvservers.
I take it the idea is that only a few people go to other worlds, and rarely do they get the chance to disrupt cannon... but if my boss tells me that THE UNIVERSE WILL IMPLODE if I save a child, I'm not just going to believe him.
But if he showed you a PowerPoint presentation showing the universe is going to implode!
@@_Vesper But did he? From what we've been told, in a completely different situation something bad happened once. One point does not a pattern make.
@@williamsimkulet7832 More like in an infinite number of parallel situations with infinite slight variations from our own
@@_Vesper ... actually the movie suggests otherwise, that there are a finite number of ways things can go, as the moment things go differently in these other realities, they collapse.
To use Rick & Morty parlance, it's the Central Finite Curve of canon... bullshit.
@@williamsimkulet7832 If they go differently they collapse... which is exactly what it's showing the spidermen not to do, not to have it go differently
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I thought the same thing why didn't Miles turn himself invisible when everybody was after him but then when he lured everybody out only to then disappear was super really clever.
I don’t know why they blame miles and say he caused everything. His uncle took him to the subway alley to paint and the kingpin fired up the accelerator that caused the spider to cross over. He did nothing wrong
I think it's more so that his existence as it is now caused the problem and they were trying to contain it, but obviously he wasn't having any of it which turned him into the problem more literally
@@Itsakoopahere It is sad they blame him for stuff out his control. That's what makes him relateable.
Not sure if it’s an edit but on Twitter I saw someone point out that even the Spider-Man Popsicle that they sell in real life was chasing Miles
One thing of note is that spiderman 2099 didn't get bit he injects the spider powers into him. This makes him a huge hypocrite because he's saying all this stuff about the exact destiny each spider person has to go through while he himself skipped all that
28:40 I call bullshit on that reference. In Doctor Strange 2, it’s established by Christine-838 that the MCU is called Earth-616, NOT Earth-199999. Plus, in the same movie, America and Stephen change when they cross universes. They turn into cartoons and paint. We’ve seen that in the Spiderverse you stay in your native art style when you cross universes. I’m relieved that the Spiderverse is definitely separate from the MCU because trying to keep up with Phase 4 is already a headache and a half
When Pavtr's world is being destroyed, I realize that Miles saving the captain may not necessarily be the reason why the Pavitr's world started to be consumed by the quantum hole. I'm pretty sure the collider had fallen where the hole was opening up. I think it was The Spot triggering the collider and it's subsequent collapse that caused Mumbatton to be consumed and Miles just happened to be there. (Just a theory)
25:08 that wasn’t the canon-breaking. That was Spot. Miles points this out specifically. Captain Stacy-65 breaks the canon and his dimension is doing fine. Same for Earth-42 and Earth-1610.
They actually do acknowledge the other art styles! right at the beginning with the renaissance culture they mention how he looks like he’s “made of paper”
Unfortunately they don’t react to the real life people like Donald glover! It must be so freaky to see a human like that as a more cartoony 2d shaded person living in their universe.
They actually talk about art a lot in the film, which I enjoyed as an artist.
I very much enjoy the changing background animations in this video! Nice!
I didn't see the original in theaters and regretted it. Saw this one in theater and will see again I'm sure
This may well have overtaken my favorite superhero movie ever, which was up to this point Infinity War. And might be the most beautiful work of entertainment art I've ever bore witness to. Can not wait to go see it again.
Will it beat Mario? No... Should it beat Mario? 1000000% yes
yeah
32:30 I was pleasantly surprised that the Prowler-42 wasn’t a secretly alive Jefferson Morales
The Spider from Unierse 42 was supposed to bit Miles from that universe. It is shown in the glimpses of what should've been and you can see young Miles with braids (the same braids Prowler have in the end). There might be Peter Parker, but it was Miles who was supposed to be bitten there. We can safely assume that all of those characters, unless they are like certain game or animated characters are NOT the same characters that were in the comics. This Miles is not the comic book Miles, it's different "variant". It's not that Miles shouldn't be Spider-Man, it's that particular Miles shoulnd't be.
I loved it, and I was genuinely caught off guard by the cliffhanger ending. I had no idea this was a two-parter going in. I wasn't even feeling the runtime of the movie at that point. I was perfectly happy to keep sitting there until we got to the epic finale. I spent most of the movie just hoping Japanese Spider-Man would show up, so I was very distracted looking for him.
I want supaidaman to show up in the 3rd movie so badly
Dude yeah i watched it with friends, i couldn't believe it, i didnt stand up until the end of the credits i kept being like no no no way this canNOT be happening they are messing with us no no no
The new ninja turtles seems to adapt very similar animation and it looks great, but this movie was like WOAH. I'm gonna have to watch it at least 10x to see half of what's in there. Fantastic film.
I think Mutant Mayhem, at least from what we've seen, is a good example of a movie showing a clear influence from something without taking the wrong lessons. It's not a multiverse thing, just a hopefully fresh take on that franchise with an art style that's more interesting than the typical kid's movie. Though actually Turtles did already do a multiverse crossover way back in 2009 with the original comics Turtles and the 80s and 2000s cartoon Turtles running into each other.. Anyway, I hope Mutant Mayhem ends up being good.
@@MysteriousMrL They also did the multiverse thing with the 2012 series.
28:15 Gwen does mention that the vulture looks like he's made of paper tho, but that's like the only time i think
Yeah, she tells him shooting fire is unwise lol
I think that’s because it is noticeable in her universe. She wasn’t expecting a multiverse thing, she thought that was done and fixed. But at the spiderverse HQ everyone is different so you wouldn’t remark it all the time.
I know it's only June but this is my favorite movie of the year. I don't see anything else slated to release this year topping it.
It’ll beat Mario at the Oscars that’s for sure.
Sir, I’m going to have to ask you remove your hands from Chris Pratt’s throat.
Kinda want it to win as the ultimate FU to Disney or at least Puss and Boots.
@@Ozzymandius1 sir I recommend you to stop trying to defend a sucky Mario movie
This’d better win best picture
@@roxtechs Netflix won the last animated Oscar what are you even on about lol
Tbh if I was Peter Parker I would be questioning my free will, having seen my exact same story play out over and over - it would make me feel like no choice I've ever made was truly my own. Yikes.
I had no idea this was a 2 parter, either. So much like your son I was shocked. I was looking at my watch like “man they still have A LOT to do and it’s getting close….how are they going to pull this off?” Then BAM! To be continued.
When the Spot is telling the story of the 42 spider it actually shows the spider creeping up on the 42 universe Miles (with the braided hair) who we meet at the end so maybe 42 Miles WAS actually going to be Spider-Man but become Prowler instead.
AtSV was such a tremendous follow-up to ItSV. I was taken back to my first time seeing Spider-Man 2 back in theaters. The way it's animated, the storytelling, music, and the powerful way it forces it's characters to face their mistakes and the way that they face challenges and the way they go about being Spider-Man, or Woman, is a brilliant package. And the cameos! All so spectacular. Literally, my only complaint is there's no Christopher Daniel Barnes reprising my 90s Spidey. Other than that, it's my favorite Spider-Man anything that's come about in my 32 years of life.
It was my favourite movie of the year
Me too my friend me too
Comparing this movie to No Way Home is like comparing Endgame to Primer. Just not even the same level when it executing its concept.
This movie makes me angry.
It makes me look at the media I've been consuming the last few months and be like "THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WATCHING???" It's made so much stuff become redundant in quality.
23:30 it’s not just a tragedy. Their uncle (as far as we know) needs to die, but so does a police captain close to them.
Movie was great, but not without criticism. They nerfed Peter Parker bad imo, Peter would always do the hard thing and not purposely let anyone die.
So the spider from universe 42 was supposed to bite that universes miles morales, you can see in the 1st spot flashback it shows the spider near a kid with braids that look just like that universes miles
That's right, and instead of his dad's death being his "Uncle Ben" moment, it pushed him to turn to crime and become the Prowler
@BatRoulette in miles universe yes, plus universe 42 miles could've taken the mantle from his uncle after his father's death. I really don't see what the confusion is
@BatRoulette it's a different universe, so the prowler story would also be different
What makes this movie so good or at least one of the things is how great all the characters are. I was hooked at the beginning with just Gwen to the point if it was just her I would’ve been fine with it.
Her watercolour style is soooooooo pretty
... but I'm sure that the backgrounds were a nightmare to animate. And I'm happy they put the effort, because it greatly improve those scenes.
Sony already confirmed that Part 3 will be set almost entirely in the universe where the radioactive spider bit the guy who yells Rodney
I think one of the (many) reasons why the multiverse idea works so well in Spiderverse while it feels contrived and a cash grab in others is because in Spiderverse, the multiverse creates the story, whereas in others, the story creates the multiverse. In No Way Home (which I admittedly still like a lot) and The Flash, it feels like the multiverse is introduced so that they can have cameos. It feels like an excuse to bring Tobey or Keaton back. In Spiderverse, it feels like the multiverse is directly influencing the story.
You should look up the Spider-Man the animated series The Spot as he was integral to the show with his spot tech being in the last episode
Do you think Illumination will do what Disney did 5 years ago and pre-print "BEST ANIMATED PUCTURE WINNER" advertisements for Mario? Does any animated movie this year have a chance at beating Spiderverse at the Oscars?
I think the Pixar movie will always kinda be a given for trying to get best picture but I doubt it'll have a chance of winning mario or spiderverse
@@dylanr6214 the original won the Oscar that year
What does Disney or Marvel have to do with anything? The Spider-Man movies are Sony movies. That includes Spider-Verse the first film did win an Oscar
They’ll definitely try and one up the multiverse, and I can guarantee you it will just be the cast of characters realising they’re actors and they visit our universe, and see how all of their events have been pre-written, and they fight their creators with references to real world events. That’s where it will end.
My only complaint about this movie is that I didn’t know going in that it’s a 2 parter. I was really looking forward to the final fight so when it ended so suddenly I was very disappointed. I guess you know it’s a good movie when the only real real problem is that there wasn’t enough
I live in Poland so I was at a screening with subtitles. This is one of the few movies where I wasn't even noticing them. Visually it's amazing.
These movies are just pure art. My kids loved the whole thing, but I was mesmerized by the visuals. This movie deserves $2B
22:15 The Lizard clearly turns back into Peter Parker in the previous movie.
Hobie Brown is the name of Spider-Punk in the comics. in the punk universe he became spider-punk instead of the prowler. there was a ton of interviews in that era of spider-man where they talked about making all the different spider-people, it’s so hard to find stuff from before 2018 in this new age algorithm ..
On the subject of Hollywood possibly taking the wrong lesson from this movies success, while I'd normally be worried, I did just get an ad for the new TMNT movie in the middle of your video that actually kind of made me less worried. That movie looks like it has heart and great animation that appears to be kind of piggy backing on the Spiderverse animation style
The wrong lesson I’ve seen them take is company’s ripping off the style instead of creating their own and using spiderverse as a jumping off point. Always have to do what’s already proven to work instead of innovating. And then you have Disney all the way in the corner of the classroom adding a 2d toon filter to their new movie “wish” and calling it a day lol.
21:30 would he, though? He says “I am so tired.” He was always at the end of his career.
went to the premiere for this in london and saw it in imax, will never be able to top that experience again, such a good movie
I feel like the spider from dimension 43 was supposed to bite the Miles from that universe rather than Peter Parker.
Thus setting up that our Miles essentially stole Miles 43s hero path. Could be completely wrong about that but kinda what I'm thinking.
The 42 spider was actually supposed to bite that universes Miles. In the scene where we see the spider being teleported to the good Miles’ universe you can see the Miles with the long dreads/braids about to be bit.
Yep.
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For me I actually couldn't hear the movie very well. it's the only time I've gone to a movie and wondered if there was something wrong with the speakers even durign the first minute of the movie through to the end.
as for the ending I actually stepped out to use the restroom because it felt like the right moment and came back to the credits and an empty theatre so I missed the actual ending and left very confused.
unfortunately with it being a long movie there doesn't seem to be a good time for a bathroom break. if anyone hasnt seen it yet n wants a good time to go id go when gwen and miles are swinging around the city in the first act or when miles is speaking with his mum on the tower. thats the only time when you can really go and even then you shouldn't miss those parts
@@ghostmemeboi yeah I completely agree. pretty much anything after that has so much going on and so much worth seeing it's hard to find time to take a break. for a second I was going to say the chase scene because there's not too much story wise happening but you'd be missing some amazing action and maybe miss a great interaction.
@@VSheepVal i absolutely would not miss the chase scene. it was the moment i sat back and really thought to myself, yeah this is a good movie. Despite it not being essential to the plot it's the midpoint where everything comes to ahead, great jokes action and suspense. The first act drags on though and has enough long winded moments that you could leave for a couple minutes and come back and not miss too much.
32:15 he doesn’t need to die. Captain Stacy-65 proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
The 42-spider was meant to bite the 42-Miles. Since it didn't, he fell deeper under the influence of his uncle Aaron after his father died in that world.
As the Spot is given his monologue of how the spider accidentally crossed-dimensions, you can see it was getting close to the Miles of that world, who is now the Prowler-Miles.
I love movies with subtle foreshadowing like this. very well written.
This movie is so good because it works on so many different dimensions no pun intended. When they tell Miles he was never supposed to be spider man it's so meta to the people who still reject Miles and say he isn't Spider-Man IRL.
Miles was supposed to be Prowler but the spider who bit him, bit him because it was going to bite Miles in Universe 42. Thats why Miles senses was green nd purple when he met Chris Pine Spiderman but turned blue and red
green and purple aren't the Prowler's colors. in that scene Peter was fighting the Green Goblin.
Glad you‘ve changed the title.
2:56 Ghost Spider stuff. Ghost Spider stuff!!!
RIP Mario in the thumbnail
6/6/2023 - 7/6/2023
I think the Spider-42 was supposed to bite Miles in that universe. In the beginning when The Spot is explaining how Miles got his powers, there is a split second where you see the Spider-42 sucked into a portal as it was crawling towards Miles (with 2 braids)
If you look at when it shows the spider in its original universe it's heading towards a kid with braids just like the miles in that universe that becomes the prowler
Disney makes Disney look bad.
2020s Disney sucks. The 90s was peak, the 2000s was Pixar carrying them, and tbf, they did well in the 2010s… the first half of that decade was a solid run for them.
But man, this decade sucks for them.
31:10 He doesn’t turn invisible in the chase scene because his plan was to lure all the spider people away from the headquarters so that he can make it easier for himself to get away into the trans-dimensional pod. It’s very lowkey but he knew what he was doing after getting Miguel off of him.
@22:00 when explaining about the inter-dimensional spider, you see a flashback of the spider about to bite the earth 42 miles Moralez before spot steals it from earth 42. The Earth 42 Miles (who became the prowler) was supposed to be the one who got bit
My theater had the dialogue mized super quitely and in scenes like Hobbie Brown's intro it was really difficult to hear what they were saying
I think they are combining elements for this Alternate Miles. In the comics Miles meets an evil alternate version of himself called Ultimatum (not the Prowler). I think they made Miles the Prowler because that is his actual archenemesis in the comics. In the comics his uncle remains his main villain and for a short span becomes Iron Spider. I think they'll be canabilizing that. My theory is that Main Miles tries to help Alternate Miles to become a better person and the Spider-Man his world was supposed to have. Instead Alternate Miles is going to continue falling deeper into his uncle's influence and as the Iron Spider will likely be the final main villain alongside the Spot.
!spoiler: n the original comics, the prowler was Hobbie Brown, a troubled super intelligent teenager that Spiderman set on a path of good, in 616. But in the original spiderverse comics, in spider punks (he hates that name lol) universe, Hobbie brown gets bitten by a radioactive spider and fights back against a Harry Osborn president/dictator of the US inspired by British punk culture. Hes based around an alternative design for British Spiderman that was turned into his own character, which is probably why they changed him to British in this movie
Just noticed Lightyear and Across Spider Verse have a similar twist where there's a villain reveal, a doppelganger of the Hero, in Lightyear Zurgg is older corrupt Buzz Lightyear from another timeline, in Across Spider Verse at the end Miles Morales ends up in another universe his counterpart is the Prowler.
My favorite cameo was corn on the coblin
30:46 he was in this as a hologram.
This is genuinely my favorite movie of all time, loaded with nostalgia from my comic-nerd childhood, the art is a step above even the first movie which felt groundbreaking at the time, this is just a whole new level of eye candy. somehow the artists and animators managed to truly capture fun itself and beam it into me through the medium of the screen, i have never been so jealous of superpowers in my entire life based purely on how fun everything looked in the movie. love what they did to flesh out the characters, what they did with the comics of course, which was respectful to the characters but also the movie is its own thing, obviously, so there was a ton of new things to be surprised by. couldn't recommend it highly enough.
Favorite movie of all time??? Can we chill out for a bit 😂
You know what's weird? The internet spoiled the bagel thing for me, but I wouldn't have remembered that if it wasn't already spoiled. Kinda like how miles wouldn't be doin his thing if he wasn't told his dad was gonna die
Really loved that during the beginning fight in the Met, Gwen mentions how modern art is a meta-contemporary on art, and the plot is characters fighting over how the theme of self-sacrifice for the greater good is essential for being a Spider-Man.