Having added the word Secular the legislation which controls temples ought tp have been nullified. A very strong team of lawyers should approach SC to sort this conflict.
@@ASMandya Temples built by kings are public properties. It should be with the govt only throught the India. Due to agitation by people in view private irregularities in temples the govts formed relegious boards for administration.
The devious insertion in 1976 of course has tp be by the Jawahar progeny! Having added the word Secular the legislation which controls temples ought tp have been nullified. A very strong team of lawyers should approach SC to sort this conflict.
Governor is absolutely correct.The word securialism introduced by Indira Gandhi. originally there was no mention of securialsm in the constitution.Even India as a nation secular that is Sanatan Dharma.The people are misguided by the power hungry politician for their interest
The constitution defines what is secularism not the fanatics. Dont get disturbed when some one says something. For power people can stoop to any dirtiest level.
What a co incident....? I have a carpenter in my new house construction work who is Sarvanan by name. Believe me he also behaves, speaks mindlessly and doesn't listen like the above person😂😂😂😂
“Secularism “ vital vote bank for pseudosecular parties of Bharat ,who doesn’t have equitable perception/observance/application when it applicable to Hindu communities.🇮🇳🙏🏻✍️
Amazing to hear this from a person of this level. He himself mentioned secularism arised in the west to separate chrush from the state. That is exactly what is needed in India aswell.. Laddu, ram mandir can win elections in India.. not supporting any religion. Law should be one and the religion should be kept in door that is the only way for growth and peace in our country.. and that is sucularism. Without that India will be one more Pakistan or afganistan where religion starts dictating the rules
Even "Governor" is the British Concept.... and Problematic for decades..... Empowerment of the States and their Parties should rule INDIA, THE UNION OF STATES....
DMK S Sarawanan is DMK para anti sanathanam Darman. A Sarawanan can Tamil Nadu don accept Sanathanam Darman but Hindus in Tamil Nadu strictly follow sanathanam Darman & anti DMK
what is the meaning of secularism please let me know as per definition of secularism no intervention of state in any religious practice where as all hindu temples are under govt hands what a dumb of this country if you want practice full secularism all churches and masjids also undertaken by govt .
To the West, the word Secular remains same then and now. It is the others like in India who altered the definition. It is a fact that West realised the impracticality and detriment of the interplay of the religion and statecraft. They had the wisdom to isolate the two for the purpose of common good. Religion may still be allowed in politics to some extent but not in government. They reaped the benefits of being objective rather than being subjective and avoided being conflicted in running the affairs of the government and in delivering good governance to the citizens. For most part Democracy flourished and progressed under the practice of Secular Ideals. That is, without denying the religion unlike in communist governments where religion is barred. Therefore for any democracy, particularly for those which are diverse in faith and in traditions, culture etc, the original definition of being Secular is valuable. When the term Secular was incorporated in the preamble of the constitution, in the spirit of above definition, it is valid. Secularism; used elsewhere to mean the equality of all religions in terms of rights and freedom becomes a redundant concept because it is embedded in the constitution under the Right to Religion and Equality. Interpreting and understanding Secularism as Equality Of Religion is therefore quite different from the original notion and intent while the term Secular was incorporated in the preamble of the Constitution. So be it. They are two similar sounding words and are quite different from eachother in the sense of the meaning derived from them. Therefore it is quite logical that the term Secular, as meant in the West, is indeed quite valuable and appropriate in a Democracy. Let noble thoughts come from all sides. Satyameva Jayate ✌️ Jai Hind 🫡
When the DMK spokesperson says for DMK Sanatan means hierarchy, is that not exactly what they r following in Tamilnadu. first Mr. Karunanidhi ,then Mr. Stalin as CM and no sooner there may be his son taking over who knows.
India is going to doom by these fanatics, cannot issues be solved by amicable solutions and agreements if found hurting each others. With great sacrifice we got independence and are struggling for unity.
Secularism is an idea rejected by the constitution assembly but intriduced by Indira Gadhi. Indira was Rahul 's grandmother. She was not more intelligent than this man. She was a fool. She introduced 'secularism' for her selfish reason. That woman hardly understood what secularism was. Secularism is anti dogmatism, anti sectarisnism. Impose it with definition closer to that of the West. It means rejection of theocentric thoughts & theology, dogma, god centered dictrines and endorsement of openness, human institutions of Dharma. It is rejection of the authority of Bible, Quran, Prophet etc. It is rejection of religious conversions, religious politics, sectarian voting, ... It is a call for openness. Hindutva in that sense secular. The politicians made it to be anti-hindu. So defend secularism. Let us have secular civil laws. Secularism is good for hindutva, endorse the true form of secularism.
The governor is a stupid fellow, having failed repeatedly in all his attempts to destabilse TN, he is now taking one weapon or another as per the diktats of delhi bosses. He is becoming more of a joker in TN.
Talk about gainful employment MSP for farmers reduction in petrol diesel lpg price, preindependance mogal period mohanjodara harappa things you throw now.ECI will not ECI allways.also talk about hasina BD ranil SL to learn lesson by appropriate persons.
Pranesh Roy keeps on ranting about "before Nehru before Nehru"... Come to the present day you fool !!! Today the constitution has the word Secular... If you feel threatened... Pass an amendment and remove it if you have the guts !!!
Remove Secular from constitution asap....
Having added the word Secular the legislation which controls temples ought tp have been nullified. A very strong team of lawyers should approach SC to sort this conflict.
What was the peculiar situation prevailed in 1976? Why anchor did not ask DMK panelist?@@ASMandya
@@ASMandya Temples built by kings are public properties. It should be with the govt only throught the India. Due to agitation by people in view private irregularities in temples the govts formed relegious boards for administration.
@@rangavesa2016you are true but somebody never understand this
Dumbo India is not secular we should be secular
Yes. Totally agreed with hon. Governor.
the guy from dmk cannot even pronounce santana properly…and he is commenting on it…what nonsense…
Hindus make India secular in all its real sense
Plz all Hindus in India plz wake up wake up wake up sounds for Hinduism
Who is sleeping 😂
No need of these notorious DMK fellow to misguide and educated wrongly the well -educated public
Tamil Nadu Hindus plz don't vote for DMK alliance
Sadly they will vote for the beggars alm of Rs 5k and a packet of biriyani!
Bro no matter what these TN PPL will never think ...they only want money and alcohol datsit
South India will not vote for parties doing relegious politics.
@@rangavesa2016 ya u guys will only vote for religious parties supporting Christian and muslims ....known fact 😂😂
@@rangavesa2016 yeah they will only vote for parties supporting Christians and muslims cos these are not religions 😂😂😂
BJP government RSS should declare India as Hindu county
Korona
But u must elect indi alliance & congress for freebies & demand bjp to declare hindu rastra
It was never a secular country 🇮🇳🕉️☝️👑
India should be declare as Hindu country
Yes to achieve hindu raastra, hindu must give vote to indi alliance & congress
Sathasivan.. sootha mudikittu poda punda..
The devious insertion in 1976 of course has tp be by the Jawahar progeny!
Having added the word Secular the legislation which controls temples ought tp have been nullified. A very strong team of lawyers should approach SC to sort this conflict.
One of the best spokespersons in BJP.
🎯💎🏆 Great insightful Debate 🏆💎🎯
लोकः समस्ताः सुखिनो भवन्तु
( May all beings lead prosperous life across Globe 🌍 )
Governor is absolutely correct.The word securialism introduced by Indira Gandhi. originally there was no mention of securialsm in the constitution.Even India as a nation secular that is Sanatan Dharma.The people are misguided by the power hungry politician for their interest
The constitution defines what is secularism not the fanatics. Dont get disturbed when some one says something. For power people can stoop to any dirtiest level.
Even without that world the constitution for secularism only. Read the constitution.
SARAVANAN proved himself to be a "FOOL".
Hindus must be be UNITE & surport BJP Hindu government
Support tho karrahahaina 10 sal sea
Sarvanand is joker par excellence. DMK has many one among them 😅😊
India is secular.. and psychologically low self esteemed RSS and BJP cannot change that.
@@AST7117 those feku left liberals don't understand the meaning of secularism & DMK has many such fools & hypocrites.
Majority rules in democracy, so Hindus have full power and eligible to declare India as Hindustan or Hindu Nation
Ya we Hindu Dont want any secularism due to these secularism status other religions r doing whatever they want they r doing
Whatever be the nature of sanatana dharma isn’t it “ secular “ to accept it as it is . Why is he not talking about reforms in other religions then .
Saravanan has his begg bowl in hand and mind. He rants rubbish. An anti.indian advocate.
What a co incident....?
I have a carpenter in my new house construction work who is Sarvanan by name.
Believe me he also behaves, speaks mindlessly and doesn't listen like the above person😂😂😂😂
Saravanan is a joker 🤣
Secular the word only to please one particular community for a vote bank politics.
“Secularism “ vital vote bank for pseudosecular parties of Bharat ,who doesn’t have equitable perception/observance/application when it applicable to Hindu communities.🇮🇳🙏🏻✍️
Finally the right questions are being asked .
Please implement ucc
I just want to know the boundary of india before the British rule,
Amazing to hear this from a person of this level. He himself mentioned secularism arised in the west to separate chrush from the state. That is exactly what is needed in India aswell..
Laddu, ram mandir can win elections in India.. not supporting any religion. Law should be one and the religion should be kept in door that is the only way for growth and peace in our country.. and that is sucularism. Without that India will be one more Pakistan or afganistan where religion starts dictating the rules
True...
Even "Governor" is the British Concept.... and Problematic for decades..... Empowerment of the States and their Parties should rule INDIA, THE UNION OF STATES....
Yes bring the Dr.Ambedkar Constitution. All will accept
DMK S Sarawanan is DMK para anti sanathanam Darman. A Sarawanan can Tamil Nadu don accept Sanathanam Darman but Hindus in Tamil Nadu strictly follow sanathanam Darman & anti DMK
what is the meaning of secularism please let me know as per definition of secularism no intervention of state in any religious practice where as all hindu temples are under govt hands what a dumb of this country if you want practice full secularism all churches and masjids also undertaken by govt .
Gov Ravi is holding a position which is also foreign... If he is so self righteous.. he should first resign... He is nothing but an RSS stuge
Even these bunch of "secularism fanatics" know Bharatbarsa is a true sarbadharmasamanay place. But for selfish reason they argue.
Why only single family is ruling TN will others ever get a chance or is it only family of Karunanidhi is entitled to rule .
To the West, the word Secular remains same then and now. It is the others like in India who altered the definition.
It is a fact that West realised the impracticality and detriment of the interplay of the religion and statecraft. They had the wisdom to isolate the two for the purpose of common good. Religion may still be allowed in politics to some extent but not in government. They reaped the benefits of being objective rather than being subjective and avoided being conflicted in running the affairs of the government and in delivering good governance to the citizens. For most part Democracy flourished and progressed under the practice of Secular Ideals. That is, without denying the religion unlike in communist governments where religion is barred.
Therefore for any democracy, particularly for those which are diverse in faith and in traditions, culture etc, the original definition of being Secular is valuable. When the term Secular was incorporated in the preamble of the constitution, in the spirit of above definition, it is valid.
Secularism; used elsewhere to mean the equality of all religions in terms of rights and freedom becomes a redundant concept because it is embedded in the constitution under the Right to Religion and Equality. Interpreting and understanding Secularism as Equality Of Religion is therefore quite different from the original notion and intent while the term Secular was incorporated in the preamble of the Constitution.
So be it. They are two similar sounding words and are quite different from eachother in the sense of the meaning derived from them.
Therefore it is quite logical that the term Secular, as meant in the West, is indeed quite valuable and appropriate in a Democracy.
Let noble thoughts come from all sides.
Satyameva Jayate ✌️
Jai Hind 🫡
Secularism removed and now i m treated as shit. No opportunity is given to me because i m son of a driver and i m expected to do the same .
enough...
Inders gandhi added the word of secular in the constitution.
When the DMK spokesperson says for DMK Sanatan means hierarchy, is that not exactly what they r following in Tamilnadu. first Mr. Karunanidhi ,then Mr. Stalin as CM and no sooner there may be his son taking over who knows.
India and pakistan were born with a single ajends
Hindu vs muslim
So we must live with it
Jai Sri Ram
He must be booked for violating constitutional breach immediately
Who Mr sudalai 😅 ask him to pronounce the word secular
It was added by Indira through 42nd constitutional amendment act 1976, it should be repealed .
India is going to doom by these fanatics, cannot issues be solved by amicable solutions and agreements if found hurting each others. With great sacrifice we got independence and are struggling for unity.
Secularism is important and good, right? 🇮🇳
Secularism is an idea rejected by the constitution assembly but intriduced by Indira Gadhi. Indira was Rahul 's grandmother. She was not more intelligent than this man. She was a fool. She introduced 'secularism' for her selfish reason. That woman hardly understood what secularism was. Secularism is anti dogmatism, anti sectarisnism. Impose it with definition closer to that of the West. It means rejection of theocentric thoughts & theology, dogma, god centered dictrines and endorsement of openness, human institutions of Dharma. It is rejection of the authority of Bible, Quran, Prophet etc. It is rejection of religious conversions, religious politics, sectarian voting, ... It is a call for openness. Hindutva in that sense secular. The politicians made it to be anti-hindu. So defend secularism. Let us have secular civil laws. Secularism is good for hindutva, endorse the true form of secularism.
Governor view the amount to contempt for the supreme court?
DMK spokes person : "....Let me finish this , let me finish this ....."
*Does
not finish his point uptill 12 minutes !!!😅
The governor is a stupid fellow, having failed repeatedly in all his attempts to destabilse TN, he is now taking one weapon or another as per the diktats of delhi bosses.
He is becoming more of a joker in TN.
Saravanan, VP name is Mr Dhankar. Please pronounce properly
Fool governor in tn.
Sir leave this basturd DMK Man
What is this man talking ?
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How about getting rid of casteism first?
from which religion?😅
Real indian will not utter such words. May be he was born and brought up in Pakistan.
First remove this anchor
godi media bo 1
Talk about gainful employment MSP for farmers reduction in petrol diesel lpg price, preindependance mogal period mohanjodara harappa things you throw now.ECI will not ECI allways.also talk about hasina BD ranil SL to learn lesson by appropriate persons.
😂😂😂😂😂
godi media no 1
Pranesh Roy keeps on ranting about "before Nehru before Nehru"... Come to the present day you fool !!! Today the constitution has the word Secular... If you feel threatened... Pass an amendment and remove it if you have the guts !!!
So Saravanan's rants soulnd music to your ears? There is no one word of reason in Saranvana's ad hominem attack.
@@venkatraman7396 Yes Mr. Venkat... It is music to my ears. India is secular.. and psychologically in secular RSS and BJP cannot change that.
RN.Ravi , an IPS officer and now Governor forgets the history shamefully that before 1947 , there's NO India!!!
BJP bootlicker RN Ravi is a Bihari from patna - he is employed by his political bosses to make TN into UP and Bihar...............
These sanghis often misquote and often misguide.
Pakistani barking
Do you have any proof to say or simply showcasing your commenting skills.
DMK was notorious in misquoting.
Times Now ... Along with cow urine do you eat cow dung also ??
Just like you eat sheep d Ung and sheep Ur! Ne like Jesus??😂😂