I love Tam Lin! We play it after Julia Delaney, and speed it up each time through. It's a show stopper when we play gigs. My B part is a bit different from what I play though.
I have a problem with any person that would not appreciate whatever tune somebody contributes. Feck those who don’t appreciate another’s effort. No snobbery.
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737I tried knitting before but I didn’t have the patience for it. True story. You’ll find no snobbery in me at a session, I’m 100% for inclusion. I’m only having a little fun.
It's that harmonic progression thing that really appeals when people start playing...and then becomes corny as you play more. Wizard Walk is another reel that the young 'uns luv but brings others out in a rash. I called my dog Tamlin, though, to be fair. I like the story.
I absolutely agree with everything except for the Golden Stud, which is great for coming up with a different arpeggio variation every single time. Which on second thought makes it a bit session-unfriendly. But then again, great random harmonies might arise if everyone keeps varying. John Ryan’s is on my list of tunes to go adjust my fluid balance, too.
It could be worse - a student might ask you to play The Ballad of Jed Clampett. For those who don't know, this is a tune beloved of seemingly all beginner bluegrass banjoists.
It is a composition by John Kirkpatrick, and Jump at the Sun is indeed one of the names, alongside a bunch of other names, including the mistranslation "John Patterson."
The negative reaction to this is not surprising, yet it remains frustrating. It's not Enda who is egotistical; rather, it's those players who are so attached to these garish tunes that they're willing to stubbornly defend them to the end. When someone like Enda, who has more experience, tries to explain why these tunes aren't favored by seasoned Irish traditional musicians-often due to their jarring and repetitive patterns-the usual response is defensiveness, rooted in ego. This isn't about criticizing your personal taste; it's about inviting you to delve deeper into a rich tradition that you're merely skimming as a tourist. If the critique of these tunes wasn't taken as a personal attack, there might be a real opportunity for learning. Enda's assessment is both fair and accurate. To those who have moved beyond the surface of Irish traditional music, these tunes can seem tiresome and provoke eye-rolls. With tens of thousands of tunes in the vast and intricate repertoire of Irish music, as you explore more, you might begin to understand Enda's perspective whenever you encounter tunes like these. If you choose to spend your life eating plain spaghetti with ketchup and claim to love Italian cuisine, that's your choice. But please don't be offended if you bring it to an Italian-themed potluck and it doesn't receive rave reviews.
Didn’t know you’re such a purist, Enda! 😄 I love Jump at the Sun! It’s so fun to play, I first heard at the Porto session last year but couldn’t jump (heh) in right away having brought with me only my keyless flute. The tune that always made me wanna go out for a smoke or grab another pint is Crested Hens waltz, that chromatic rise in the B part is just… UGH! Like a nail on the glass! Especially if everyone’s not perfectly in tune, which was rarely the case 😅
@ yes! I’ve never been to Ireland yet, but among the European sessions that I’ve been to it was the best! Level of musicianship, selection of tunes, overall vibe and feeling welcome - loved it. It was in a vegan cafe Casa da Horta, mind ya, but they serve beer, and there was food for musicians, among the best vegan dishes I’ve ever tried, being not a vegan.
I was worried you would include the Pteradactyl Two-Step / Drowsy Dragon, a pair of tunes i love to play by John Kirkpatrick, but you went for one of his others - Jump at the Sun (your "Adams Family" jig) or "John Patterson' as it is known to those who mis-hear it (alongside a whole bunch of other crazy names). I really love these kinds of tunes that he composes, but, to be fair, i do see where you are coming from, and would not be play at sessions with any kind of frequency.
Not having come up through the same education system, I'm only now learning John Ryan's polka, and I rather like it.... And Jump At The Sun (thanks to several commenters for the name) seems s cracking tune, going to have to add that one.... Sessions here in Oregon, USA, probably have s different list of "dreaded" tunes, though I'd bet that The Gael is also on it.
The Gael. I've never heard it at a session. I hope I never do unless I have the money for bail. I've had it requested as a great highland bagpipe piece. The only other tune more loathsome for highland pipers... Itchy fingers.
Hm, interesting set of tunes. If i list them 1. 3 of them not yet played by myself or my friends & family. John Ryan's Polka/Armagh Polka its a bog standard polka in D Major nothing fancy, and yes as a czech I love polkas. Number 5 not yet on my list. The Tam Lin/ Glasgow Reel a real marmite tune some love it some hate it. I do like it and even several folks asked me for dots for it (I have found pretty nice version with lots of triplets and other ornamentations). Some tune which I do not like: Gerry Beave Hat its A part giving me creeps and I got badly stuck on it, B part is fun. I somehow dislike Britches Full Of Stitches because it mixes with The Taureen Derby Polka in my head. And my ultimate cryptonite Baidín Phelimi dunno why I hate this tune... JG
I'd be running out of a session if Enda Scahill turned up at it - just wouldn't be room in the pub for musicians and his massive ego. And you can make pretty much any tune sounds boring/awesome if you try hard enough - the Golden Stud can sound great if played well - if you try to suck all the life out of it, as you do in that vid, then, yes, it'll be dour. Agree with previous comments, that infernal Drowsey Maggie should probably be on the list, especially when people do that thing of playing it over and over agin, from really slow to really fast. So grim.
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Learn the dreaded Tamlin here! ua-cam.com/video/BE2gR9R_BDE/v-deo.html
Excellent 😂
The golden stud played with a good bit of lift and speed is absolutely fab, we play the start of the A part a little different that makes it ace
I love Tam Lin! We play it after Julia Delaney, and speed it up each time through. It's a show stopper when we play gigs. My B part is a bit different from what I play though.
Number 4 and 5…. Stabs RIGHT to the heart. Those are the ones I wanted to play the most!!!
All of these are better than Drowsy Maggie! 😂
I have a problem with any person that would not appreciate whatever tune somebody contributes. Feck those who don’t appreciate another’s effort. No snobbery.
I agree. I’m only having a little fun.
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737Please - lighten up, as the Americans say!
😂😂😂😂😂
Particulary Tam Lin which seems to played with 10 versions all clashing!
And polkas? I find it hard to get that Kerry lilt with de banjo....🫣
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737I tried knitting before but I didn’t have the patience for it. True story. You’ll find no snobbery in me at a session, I’m 100% for inclusion. I’m only having a little fun.
It's that harmonic progression thing that really appeals when people start playing...and then becomes corny as you play more. Wizard Walk is another reel that the young 'uns luv but brings others out in a rash. I called my dog Tamlin, though, to be fair. I like the story.
"Stop barking Tamlin!!!" - I like it!!
Where's the Sally stinking Gardens? Sends me packing every time! 🤣
I absolutely agree with everything except for the Golden Stud, which is great for coming up with a different arpeggio variation every single time. Which on second thought makes it a bit session-unfriendly. But then again, great random harmonies might arise if everyone keeps varying.
John Ryan’s is on my list of tunes to go adjust my fluid balance, too.
Thought the Glasgow Reel was great 👍
It could be worse - a student might ask you to play The Ballad of Jed Clampett.
For those who don't know, this is a tune beloved of seemingly all beginner bluegrass banjoists.
Addams Family jig is Jump At The Sun by John Kirkpatrick ...
JKP, as we call him, is a very deservedly mighty melodeon hero in England ;-)
known also as Faeries on Acid ;-)
That mystery jig I've heard called Jump at the Sun....I think.
It is a composition by John Kirkpatrick, and Jump at the Sun is indeed one of the names, alongside a bunch of other names, including the mistranslation "John Patterson."
I like them all!
John Ryan’s sounds like a nursery rhyme. The “baby shark” of Irish tunes. In my opinion
That’s what Frankie Gavin said about polkas - nursery rhymes without the words!
you made me laugh Enda but, so true . The good thing about playing on your own is - you can avoid them.
The negative reaction to this is not surprising, yet it remains frustrating. It's not Enda who is egotistical; rather, it's those players who are so attached to these garish tunes that they're willing to stubbornly defend them to the end. When someone like Enda, who has more experience, tries to explain why these tunes aren't favored by seasoned Irish traditional musicians-often due to their jarring and repetitive patterns-the usual response is defensiveness, rooted in ego. This isn't about criticizing your personal taste; it's about inviting you to delve deeper into a rich tradition that you're merely skimming as a tourist. If the critique of these tunes wasn't taken as a personal attack, there might be a real opportunity for learning.
Enda's assessment is both fair and accurate. To those who have moved beyond the surface of Irish traditional music, these tunes can seem tiresome and provoke eye-rolls. With tens of thousands of tunes in the vast and intricate repertoire of Irish music, as you explore more, you might begin to understand Enda's perspective whenever you encounter tunes like these.
If you choose to spend your life eating plain spaghetti with ketchup and claim to love Italian cuisine, that's your choice. But please don't be offended if you bring it to an Italian-themed potluck and it doesn't receive rave reviews.
1st place for big-brained effort post here
Didn’t know you’re such a purist, Enda! 😄 I love Jump at the Sun! It’s so fun to play, I first heard at the Porto session last year but couldn’t jump (heh) in right away having brought with me only my keyless flute. The tune that always made me wanna go out for a smoke or grab another pint is Crested Hens waltz, that chromatic rise in the B part is just… UGH! Like a nail on the glass! Especially if everyone’s not perfectly in tune, which was rarely the case 😅
Porto, Portugal? I’m asking because we’re trying to move there, and I’ve been wondering if there would be a session nearby.
@ yes! I’ve never been to Ireland yet, but among the European sessions that I’ve been to it was the best! Level of musicianship, selection of tunes, overall vibe and feeling welcome - loved it. It was in a vegan cafe Casa da Horta, mind ya, but they serve beer, and there was food for musicians, among the best vegan dishes I’ve ever tried, being not a vegan.
crested hens - agreed ,
Off to learn the Created Hen!
No 2 is Jump at the Sun by John Kirkpatrick.
The thing is... people propping up the bar love these tunes! Worth playing in a session, however boring, to pique audience interest?
I was worried you would include the Pteradactyl Two-Step / Drowsy Dragon, a pair of tunes i love to play by John Kirkpatrick, but you went for one of his others - Jump at the Sun (your "Adams Family" jig) or "John Patterson' as it is known to those who mis-hear it (alongside a whole bunch of other crazy names). I really love these kinds of tunes that he composes, but, to be fair, i do see where you are coming from, and would not be play at sessions with any kind of frequency.
Not having come up through the same education system, I'm only now learning John Ryan's polka, and I rather like it.... And Jump At The Sun (thanks to several commenters for the name) seems s cracking tune, going to have to add that one....
Sessions here in Oregon, USA, probably have s different list of "dreaded" tunes, though I'd bet that The Gael is also on it.
2:37 Shows The Munsters, an Addams Family knock-off.
Few tunes make me groan as much as when someone launches into Harvest Home...
I don’t think these are “bad tunes” necessarily just not good session tunes.
Golden stud ? When stocktons wing played it I thought it was an improvisation between two tunes ???
Its just my personal opinion, but I've never been a fan of the Mason's Apron....always with I was somewhere else when someone starts that tune.
I remembered! John Kirkpatrick
I was expecting the Irish Washerwoman to come up... Has this been rehabilitated or is it just unmentionable?
The second is a french tune , I think ?? I ve been living here 40 yrs , and never heard it before i arrived here !
John Ryan's and the Tam Lin are two of my favorites.
The Gael. I've never heard it at a session. I hope I never do unless I have the money for bail. I've had it requested as a great highland bagpipe piece. The only other tune more loathsome for highland pipers... Itchy fingers.
Tam Lin full circle of fifths, 1x each. Weeds out the posers....
LOL I'd be gone after round one!!
I like the Gael. It has a second part.
Jig: Jump at The Sun! Written by a famous English box player. Sorry I can't remember his name!
Thank you yes!
Also known as "The Acidic Fairies" according to The Session 😅🤣😂
@@violabraunburg6209 what a perfect title!!!!
2nd tune Jump at the sun...... John Kirkpatrick.
"The Gael", if I never hear it again it will be too soon. Same for "Clumsy Lover".
I kinda love the Clumsy Lover!!
@@IrishTenorBanjo I'll still follow you. 😜
@@Rustygulley-r3r hah!
Hm, interesting set of tunes. If i list them 1. 3 of them not yet played by myself or my friends & family. John Ryan's Polka/Armagh Polka its a bog standard polka in D Major nothing fancy, and yes as a czech I love polkas. Number 5 not yet on my list. The Tam Lin/ Glasgow Reel a real marmite tune some love it some hate it. I do like it and even several folks asked me for dots for it (I have found pretty nice version with lots of triplets and other ornamentations). Some tune which I do not like: Gerry Beave Hat its A part giving me creeps and I got badly stuck on it, B part is fun. I somehow dislike Britches Full Of Stitches because it mixes with The Taureen Derby Polka in my head. And my ultimate cryptonite Baidín Phelimi dunno why I hate this tune... JG
I know none of these tunes!! What does that even say!
You need to join me at www.Irishbanjolessons.com and you can learn them all!!
Have to say…… you see people head to the bar when Tamlin is played….. by Eddie Whelan……. To get more drinks and dance like mad….
Just sayin’….
Yaay I was 1st 🎉
I'd be running out of a session if Enda Scahill turned up at it - just wouldn't be room in the pub for musicians and his massive ego. And you can make pretty much any tune sounds boring/awesome if you try hard enough - the Golden Stud can sound great if played well - if you try to suck all the life out of it, as you do in that vid, then, yes, it'll be dour. Agree with previous comments, that infernal Drowsey Maggie should probably be on the list, especially when people do that thing of playing it over and over agin, from really slow to really fast. So grim.
I got a worse tune for you. Its called Cherkessia Kfula and I'd rather have my hair pulled out than listen to it again 😂.