Sasuke was on the verge of giving up revenge and choosing happiness, however: - Itachi came in, flatlined Sasuke effortlessly, made him relive trauma for 24 hrs, told him he lacked hatred, and showed great interest in Naruto - basically the next day, Naruto overpowers Sasuke’s strongest attack - the Sound Four beat Sasuke badly, revealing they did so by unlocking the power Orochimaru gave them There was no way Sasuke could stay in Konoha after all this. Running into Itachi again changed everything.
Yes this! Not only that, Naruto had the chance to convince Sasuke to stay during their fight prior to Shippuden. He had ONE chance and blew it because he fundamentally just did not understand Sasuke which ultimately was Naruto's downfall during their fight. It took Shippuden for Naruto to finally get it to some degree but even then he's just not the kind of person to see the bigger picture when it comes to something so complex as Sasuke's trauma or even Pein's. He couldn't even give a good answer to Pein. And then Kakashi, instead of encouraging or reassuring Sasuke, tied him up and berated him right after the roof fight with Naruto because he wasn't seeing Sasuke as a complex individual with pain but a younger version of himself instead, Kakashi's trauma took precedence. Of course Sasuke wasn't finna stay. Hell, Sakura failed to keep him there too, he stopped, he listened to her confession, but the moment she started saying selfish things, offering to leave her family, friends, and the village for him he noticeably was no longer interested in what she had to say and left. Like why would he stay after everything you listed above plus seeing that no one was actually understanding where he was coming from at all? I'd leave too lmao
People also don't realize that every time sasuke did feel at peace or even happy among team 7, he probably immediately felt intense guilt, ptsd, and anguish, as if he was forgetting and betraying his own family in those very moments.
I wish Kishimoto showed more of those character moments in terms of what he was thinking, it would've helped a lot of people understand Sasuke's character a lot better. Also, I think when Itachi tells him he loves him there should've been a panel or two when he breaks down in tears screaming. I think he's too stoic for a lot of the manga.
I love Sasuke. He really is a depiction of what trauma really does to people. He feels very real and human tbh. I went through really traumatic shit as a young teenager (obviously to a lesser scale than Sasuke thankfully but still messed up stuff) and it really left me fucked up with a bunch of mental problems and an unstable personality. I definitely feel very seen and I can really understand why Sasuke acts the way he does. He's forever my favorite character in anime
that's stupid. this isn't how characters are written. traumatized teenager doesn't make him able to do anything lol. character writing should be cohesive. the character has established characterization that shouldn't be betrayed. which means that him killing karin is BS
Let your brother kill your whole blood line (literally) then realised he did it because the government told him he HAD to in order to save your country and in order to protect you. Then get brainwashed by a masked man when you’re already vulnerable after learning the truth. And then tell me you wouldn’t have the same reaction as Sasuke
@@Remote.1s In fact, him having a "Chat" with the previous leaders shows that he is quite showing to his character. The reason why Sasuke believe Obito about the Uchiha is because of Itachi not factoring that Obito have defence against Amaterasu, which cause Sasuke to contemplating why his brother implanted the fail safe on his eyes, which would give Obito the legitimacy to tell Sasuke about the Genocide of the Uchiha clan. Because of this, Sasuke's world view shatter, which would led him to a deeper rage against Danzo and the Leaf. And then later on when after the second meeting of the now revived Itachi, Sasuke went to the 5 Kage and demand for answers. Basically, Sasuke traces the problem and the reason why he and his people were suffer is because of the failed system place within the Shinobi world, which later on in Boruto shows just how Naruto is the wrong choice. If all honestly, the step to the correct answer is a lesser version of Sasuke's revolution, and then build a new systems that would not let that happened, or at least lessen it.
A lot of people forget that outside of team seven he had no connection to the village,to him the village is the place that hurt him and nothing else People also forget that the fact that Sasuke can function in the society he lives in is a incredible feat on itself i mean he was what 6 or 7 during the massacre
The hate Sasuke gets highlights the fact that a large part of the Naruto fanbase both have no understanding of basic human psychology and/or are hypocrites. Most of what is in this video (and more) is what I've said about Sasuke for the last 15 years. A lot of people gleefully overlook his extreme trauma and more so than anyone, he had to most motivation to become a villain in the entire show after experiencing the most prolonged trauma. He didn't just watch everyone he loved die once (like everyone else with a sad backstory), he had to watch it over and over and over and over and over...as a 7 year old dough eyed kid. On top of that, the person who serverely traumatized you was the closest person to you. Then the same guy comes back and bitches your sensei showcasing the fact that Konoha has nothing to offer you in terms of reaching ur goal and that Itachi could come back and kill anyone close to Sasuke if he wanted to all over again, meanwhile Orochimaru at least gave you tangable power you could see. So to protect the world from Itachi, it's a moral duty to not only avenge your clan but stop him from going on a massacre again whenever he feels like it...And to then find out that person massacred ur entire clan due to being used by the village you protected as a result of his blind patriotism to Konoha that was spurred from his trauma from witnessing war. Of course Sasuke wasn't going to make the same mistake. As if that wasn't enough, dude was born with Indra's curse of hatred, even if he wanted to be a goodie two shoes like his haters critique him for not being (they're clearly not very smart individuals either), just that curse alone predestined him to turn his back on Konoha like his predecessors already did.
I'm in the same boat, when people talk bad to me on certain characters in the series, I remind them to put themselves in your shoes at that age. They either get angry or have a moment, bottom line - they understand.
@@banshotenin1178 Troll those in denial. If you had to explain 3x to someone, and I still "refuting" everything you say, thats a troll, so trolling back. Works wonders 😎🙏🏿
Um well that takes years to actually understand him psychology the Naruto manga has always been for preteen and young adults as for tweens people were still hating on Sakura even when it wasn't her fault but her poor writing but the hate continue on a bunch of teenagers or younger are not going to psychology care what was Sasuke does mentally but his actions speak louder than words if you go to sage rain analysis he does a great job at it but we tend to hate characters like Sasuke because we were kids so we don't exactly understand we see his actions first
most people who shit on sasuke have that idea that "well if i were in that situation i would have done it the perfectly logical and optimized way" while forgetting that if you went through half the shit sasuke did as a child, you'd be so mentally fucked up that most people would just jump off a cliff.
Yeah, those people are self inserts gary sues who suck naruto off as a character. Nevermind how toxic Naruto was at times with how he tried to force his friendship on Sasuke
@@lapplandkun9273 not to mention how they are fully willing to justify what Konoha did to the Uchiha in general even though the Uchiha are literally like the "founding fathers" of Konoha. They were one of the two clans that came together to form the village and in return the village subjects them to segregation, systemic oppression and ethnic cleansing
This video is beautiful. Sasuke is a great character. It's fine to dislike him, but for people ( Western Fans ) to call him names, call him a "Gary stu" or some nonsense, is just sad.
Solid video. Sasuke is one of those characters that are hated on...just because. I don't think it's rational because other characters get lauded as best thing since sliced bread for similarly controversial decisions and brooding demeanor (Pain, Guts, Eren just to name some).
The great misunderstanding of Sasuke is the fact that he experienced loss like Naruto, but his loss was in many ways more sinister. Naruto was alone from the beginning. Sasuke became alone when the person he loved and trusted the most took everything from him. Naruto was hungry for attention, but Sasuke was scarred. To love and trust is to become vulnerable to getting hurt again. Initially I was stunned that he wanted to destroy the leaf, but after thinking about it it made total sense. His hatred for Itachi was transferred to the Village that took everything from him.
I agree with Sasuke being a great character. I disaree with Itachi's Heel/Face turn being "Good Writing". Let's be honest, Kishimoto wasn't sure where he was going to go on multiple occasions. If viewed realistically, there is no way to defend the death of that many non-fighting individuals. Itachi had been built up as a self-hating "Hitler". His story arc was one of the two big retcons in the series along with Minato originally being the strongest hokage. The difference is that the Minato retcon didn't involve forgiving a genocide and ended up giving us the Hashirama vs Madara titan clash. Even after all that Sasuke had done, he still never came close to being as bad as the leadership of Konoha. Sasuke would've had to have killed a great many good characters to even come close. By the end Konoha still owes him alot and don't have the right to recompense.
Also, Danzo and the elders wronged his clan. Sasuke had no right to trust Konoha. I understand Hiruzen tried but he too was responsible for not keeping Danzo in check.
Excellent video, you perfectly pointed out the reasons behind Sasuke's actions. I would like to add that the village never tried to make amends with Sasuke. If it wasn't for Naruto, the village probably would have forgotten about Sasuke.
Thank you, I'm so glad that someone finally decided to talk about this. I've been backing this guy against assholes for years. You did a great job 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
2:15 I think people overlook that Sasuke calls Sakura annoying as a way to protect her from getting involved and hurt in the process. So the truth is that he actually cares about her (not that I ship them)
Sasuke was a great character, a much better character than Naruto at the very least, but the itachi retcon ruined Sasuke's character completely. All his life he wanted nothing but to avenge his clan - which is a totally justifiable and understandable position for Sasuke to have considering what he was made to go through by Itachi. Yet, to support the itachi twist narrative Kishimoto made sasuke do one of the stupidest things someone in his position would do realistically, when Obito had that talk with him. Obito standing 2 feet away from Sasuke told Sasuke to his face that he too was there that night murdering the people of the clan with Itachi. Not only this not register as an important piece of information in sasukes head at the time, not only did Sasuke not add Obito (or Madara as he was claiming to be) to the list of people he need to kill to avenge his clan (because he was obviously too weak to kill Obito right there and then), he ended up joining Obitos terrorist organization?? That was definitely top 5 stupidest narrative lines Kishimoto ever conjured up in the story. Sasuke all his life wanted to avenge to kill itachi to avenge the clan but some masked man just told him to his face that oh i was there too all up in that business, so instead of going oh im not done after itachi and theres another motherfucker i need to kill, he joins hands with him? That was just so stupid. Plus, why in the world would Sasuke believe anything Obito told him, about the Uchiha, or the "TRUTH" about itachi. Why in the world would the sole survivor of a genocide believe the words of a maniac whos also being super suspicious by hiding his face under a mask all the time, and who just admitted to being partly responsible to the tragedy. That made absolutely no sense. Theres no way someone in Sasuke's position would just accept everything that came out of Obitos mouth after Obito admitted to that, AND join hands with him. Kishimoto really expects the audience to believe that Sasuke would throw away every bit of hatred he had for Itachi for committing genocide againt his clan and killing his mon and dad infront of him (and making him relive it over and over again under a genjutsu on two different occasions) and be all Kumbaya i am my brothers keeper right after a suspicious masked man just told him some story about how ACTUALLY itachi loved you he did that for u, he exterminated everyone you knew, from your parents to relatives, to neighbors, to friends and everyone he knew from his clan because he love you.. Would anyone actually believe that? in that situation? But no, Sasuke was no longer the avenger who hes being all his life right there and then, he didnt even care that Obito just told him he joined hands with Itachi to exterminate the clan. All in the service of retconning Itachi as a tragic hero, silent protector or some bullshit.
On and then Kishimoto went on and made Sauske go and revive Orochimaru and ask him to edo summon the previous Kage to ask THEM about the Uchiha and the genocide and whatnot. Instead of asking Orochimaru to edo summon people from his exterminated clan like his father to ask them directly about themselves and why they chose to rebel, what their motivation was etc. But noo, Sausuke got all his information from the two bastards that committed the atrocity - Obito and Iatchi - and the heads of the village that stands to gain from wiping out the clan that wasnt happy with how they were treated by the village. This too, to support the itachi twist narrative. In a world where reviving the dead is possible, Kishimato wants us to believe that the sole survivor would chose NOT to revive his own people so that they can tell him about their own history but instead chose to revive outsiders someone of whom were waring with his clan at one point like Hashirama and Tobirama, and ask THEM about his own clan?? Why in the world would Sasuke believe them, why would he believe Obito and Itachi, why did Kishimato do this stupid bullshit
did u even watch naruto lol. Madara was not involved in the massacre so that owuldnt make an sense and obito did not tell sasuke abt his involvement in the massacre so he wouldnt know. Also sasuke wanted to get revenge on the leaf for creating the conditions and environment for itachi to do that and the shock that his brother wasnt actually evil and the fact that he was told that itachi did it to protect sasuke and that he was watching over him all that time was what made sasuke do that. AAlso sasuke did doubt obito many times, in a light novel he even went to a clinic itachi went to to make sure he was actually sick, even in the anime sasuk doubted obito many times but obito was very convincing and he wasnt lying anyway so i dont see why that argument matters. Also if u use ur brain it is very easy to see that itachi was forced into this situation by the leaf, itachi prevented the destruction of the leaf and was seen as a villain for it, why wouldnt sasuke be angry? he was lied to his whole life and he just found out the leaf was actually the reason for his clan's demise this maes perfect sense lol
@@n.6847 r u stupid? first of all they r in a war and other than fugaku the uchiha clan wouldnt be able to help as much as the kage, second of all no one was lying so that point is invalid lol, thirdly itachi and the kage were literally dead they had nothing to gain from sasuke's acceptance and sasuke wanted to know what a village actully is and the meaning it holds, the uchiha wouldnt have been able to give him that answer. Fourthly sasuke did not know abt the history between senju and uchiha at this time so that also invalidates ur point lol
@@n.6847 Dude he asked orachimaru what is hokage and what is village. Orachimaru coldn't answer so he revived the hokage. And about reviving his clan after edo itachi told him that he will always love him sasuke matured and started thinking about his goals. If he just wanted to revive his clan he would not stop infinte tsukoyomi. A reality which can be what ever he wants.
The reason why Sasuke believed Obito was because Itachi gave Sasuke a trigger in his eyes that would kill Obito when looking at his eyes. It made Sasuke question as to how he was able to do that, and Obito gave him an explanation as to why the jutsu occured in the first place. Obito said that it was a trap made by Itachi. This statement made Sasuke question as to why Itachi tried to kill Obito. by implanting amaterasu in his eyes. That is when Obito tried to told him the truth, while Sasuke denied it vehemently, the information provided by Obito gave Sasuke the holes in the story as to why the Uchiha Massacre occurred in the first place. That Itachi was forced into an impossible situation This was the reason why Sasuke was able to throw away the hatred against Itachi was because he knew that Itachi was a victim of manipulation caused by the village's incompetent government and the reason why he didn't try to kill obito may have several factors: 1. Because he was an Uchiha and 2. Because even if Obito did massacre the Uchiha, the direct cause for why he did it was because of the Leaf's government ;3. Obito provided a home for Itachi to be safe in while also being someone who lessens the burden of Itachi while killing Uchihas.
It does seem like Sasuke so easily believes what people tell him, and never thinks for himself. Heck even Itachi says "Sasuke is a blank canvas that can be painted any color."
anyone who thinks sasuke is selfish clearly didn't watch the show with their eyes and ears open. this guy gave up his entire life and chance of happiness for his families revenge this guy tried to severe his only real bond for his families revenge made the entire world his enemy for his brother's revenge was willing to make entire world try to kill him for eternity just so world would be united even his revenge against konoha was an act of selflessness from him, he knew what itachi would want from him, he knew that what he wanted would upset his brother but sasuke didn't care, we all think respecting someones wish is what is love but in reality it is just as selfish as batman not murdering his enemies, what sasuke essentially does is risking itachi hating him if it means he would be avenged, he clearly says i'd rather have itachi alive to hate me instead of let his blood on the floor just because it would be what he wanted, if you can't risk a loved one not approving of what you do for them and give up on what you believe to be the right thing to do and instead prefer to took a passive action and obey their wishes and give up on what you believe to be the right thing you don't love them, you just love being loved by them, think like this, if your father never acts harsh to you when you over-step your boundaries you would not become a decent adult, for your own good he needs to risk you having a grudge against him and this my friends is true selfless love. sasuke is the most selfless character in this show, he literally gave up on his own life and identity to avenge his loved ones, he was merely a child but he gave up on everything life had to offer to him in order to bring justice to his clan, his only real selfish action during the entire serie was his fight against naruto at the roof top but even that was more of him getting frustrated over his inability to catch up to itachi.
Sasuke was real and human, the other characters including Naruto and even itachi are all about “the village”, the village that uses child soldiers and kills entire families
I always find it funny that weaboos glorify Japanese culture but then there confused on why Sasuke wants to uphold his family's honor above all else. He's got the most traditional Japanese values of all the characters.
Nah. There’s huge issues with this. His initial reason for leaving the Leaf make sense. He wants revenge on Itachi. He notices his weakness after the chunin exams . He’s helpless against Garra even in the partial transformation, and Nartuo summons Gamabunta showing a huge gap between them. Then when he finds Itachi his goal even with the Chirori not only does he fail to kill Itachi with his chidori but Itachi completely ignores him for Nartuo. And the last straw is how when he and Naruto clash Naruto’s Rasengan is superior to his chidori showing even without the summoning . Then the sound four easily trounce him even using the curse mark.Sasuke is too weak. He sees the power of the sound 4 and then once the ritual suceeeds he’s granted insane power by the curse mark. And Orochimaru made him far stronger than ever before and learning from him would be even better. Naruto Learned a huge summoning from a Sanin so with Orochimaru it would be amazing as well. Orochimaru killed a kage too.He goes to Orochimaru especially comparedIt’s one thing for Sasuke to want to be an avenger and not let anything like what happened to the his clan happen. It’s something else for him to say he’s gonna be hokage after being a missing nin, joining the akatsuki, and attacking the hokage summit and killing the hokage. Like yeah Danzo is a jerk and a traitor so nobody would care about him but the institution of the hokage and attacking the leaf is something else. There’s no chance of him ever becoming Hokage after his actions due to what the Hokage is and how they are chosen.
@@prasadvasupalli8755 When did he said to build rain village? He stopped using childrens as tools. Current chunin exam doesn't have death permission like old days. There isn't even war in naruto's era to use children.
Also sasuke didn't say hokage in a literal sense. In the last battle against naruto sasuke said itachi is a true hokage. He trying to become hokage in his own sense
@@prasadvasupalli8755 Your comment make it obvious that you don't know what your talking about. Sarada can use chidori after she became a chunin. And side branches and main branches were equal wayyy before naruto become hokage. In the fourth war to be exact.
@@prasadvasupalli8755 Of course you need chunin exam. You need a way to test their skills. Otherwise they will just die. If you watch the chunin exam the jounin are monitoring every move. Tell me who died at chunin exam??? Naruto and kakashi offered a union to rain village. They just didn't except. He need to bring piece to entire world. Not just rain village. And why would you need to rebuild the unfixable village when you already take care of the villagers and you have bigger threats to deal.
you comparing sasuske to eren is ridiculous, they are both after vengeance but sasuke really shouldn’t have been trying to destroy the lead after killing itachi. he should’ve self reflected and realized maybe vengeance isn’t always the answer.
My big problem with Sasuke is that he puts everyone through all this crap and got no consequences for it. See even if you understand Sasuke's reasons, it doesn't excuse him from accountability. And yet Naruto, Sakura, kakashi and so on have no issues with letting Sasuke walk free at the series end. Even the excuse that he helped save the world doesn't matter because he immediately endangered it after beating Kaguya. Then Sakura actually married Sasuke while Naruto lets Sasuke train his son Boruto. Then again even Orochimaru became a karma Houdini so it's par the course I suppose.
Then what about the leaf village for the shit they pulled on Sasuke? Or what about the raikage for his attempted kidnapping of hinata? Double standards buddy. Can't have it both ways. Sasuke owes that village nothing and each and every one of them are terrible. He had every right to call them out. Don't single him out for the crap he pulled, which is nonexistent by the way, when Itachi did much worse. Watch the show critically without rose tinted glasses
@@lapplandkun9273 what shit? The leaf village did nothing to him. It was danzo who went behind the 3rd hokages back and ordered itachi to kill the rebelling Uchiha clan. It was also the Uchiha who were about to rebel for pride and hate. Sasuke knows this, but blames all of konoha anyway. The same konoha that sheltered him, fed him and protected him when was an orphan. Sasuke doesn't have to like konoha, but he's definitely in the wrong and you know it even if we understand him. He deserved consequences and got nothing because he's Sasuke and got special treatment. Raikage getting away with the hyuga thing is meant to make a point. Though I do wish neji and Hinata had a chance to confront the raikage.
@@ShadowShroud7 ok firstly the Uchiha were entirely justified in their coup. they were being ostracised and segregated in the very village they founded. They were not given any political power and were put under constant ANBU surveillance. They were being blamed for the Kyuubi attack even tho there was literally no evidence that it was them. It was the people of Konoha and its higher-ups that allowed for this isolation of an entire clan which lead to its massacre. You say "Konoha sheltered him, fed him, protected him," every single Uchiha shinobi gave their lives for the village, defended it, took the oath and they expect Konoha to shelter them not treat them as outcasts.
@@ShadowShroud7 the fact that the village still hasn't taken accountability for their actions in the Uchiha massacre makes it so much more disgusting, why should sasuke owe them anything for what they did to his clan
@@dmn12382 justified in a coup that would weaken everyone and ultimately no one wins? Yeah no. The Uchiha should have found another way instead of threatening rebellion. Like for instance, a boycott where all uchiha refuse to take ninja missions or act as military police. Or they could take things to court and face their accusers. They helped found konoha so don't tell me they couldn't do that. But no, their pride and hatred got the better of them. They didn't even defend the village when the kyubi attacked so the suspicion isn't unfounded. And no don't tell me it's explained in a novel, if it's not in the manga then I don't care Point being is that the Uchiha are responsible for their own fate. It's sad, but in truth they're not helpless innocent victims like Sasuke believed.
I think you miss the real criticisms about sasuke , in part 1 sasuke was a good character, his conflict and growth was done well , but in shippuden, everything went down , his arc became so nonsensical , it is like the writer was writing the action before writing the character, like how tf did sasuke chose to destroy the village after knowing the truth and become itachi yesman , itachi was still who murdered the clan , Fans like bad guys , if sasuke is hated , it is because he is annoying, not because he is a bad guy
Because sasuke isn't a piece of shitt like itachi who licks government's boots. Leaf was responsible for oppressing uchihas and genociding them including his parents, innocent children, pregnant women and then covered it up and blamed itachi for everything. Obviously he was going to make leaf pay for it.
Sasuke is a far better written character than anyone in the show. He’s kishimotos fave character for a reason.
I love Sasuke too, but you’re glazing
he isn't wrong tho@@RandomGirl785
Sasuke is my favourite char also❤
Sasuke was on the verge of giving up revenge and choosing happiness, however:
- Itachi came in, flatlined Sasuke effortlessly, made him relive trauma for 24 hrs, told him he lacked hatred, and showed great interest in Naruto
- basically the next day, Naruto overpowers Sasuke’s strongest attack
- the Sound Four beat Sasuke badly, revealing they did so by unlocking the power Orochimaru gave them
There was no way Sasuke could stay in Konoha after all this. Running into Itachi again changed everything.
Yes this! Not only that, Naruto had the chance to convince Sasuke to stay during their fight prior to Shippuden. He had ONE chance and blew it because he fundamentally just did not understand Sasuke which ultimately was Naruto's downfall during their fight. It took Shippuden for Naruto to finally get it to some degree but even then he's just not the kind of person to see the bigger picture when it comes to something so complex as Sasuke's trauma or even Pein's. He couldn't even give a good answer to Pein. And then Kakashi, instead of encouraging or reassuring Sasuke, tied him up and berated him right after the roof fight with Naruto because he wasn't seeing Sasuke as a complex individual with pain but a younger version of himself instead, Kakashi's trauma took precedence. Of course Sasuke wasn't finna stay. Hell, Sakura failed to keep him there too, he stopped, he listened to her confession, but the moment she started saying selfish things, offering to leave her family, friends, and the village for him he noticeably was no longer interested in what she had to say and left.
Like why would he stay after everything you listed above plus seeing that no one was actually understanding where he was coming from at all? I'd leave too lmao
Exactly
People also don't realize that every time sasuke did feel at peace or even happy among team 7, he probably immediately felt intense guilt, ptsd, and anguish, as if he was forgetting and betraying his own family in those very moments.
I wish Kishimoto showed more of those character moments in terms of what he was thinking, it would've helped a lot of people understand Sasuke's character a lot better. Also, I think when Itachi tells him he loves him there should've been a panel or two when he breaks down in tears screaming. I think he's too stoic for a lot of the manga.
Exactly
I love Sasuke. He really is a depiction of what trauma really does to people. He feels very real and human tbh. I went through really traumatic shit as a young teenager (obviously to a lesser scale than Sasuke thankfully but still messed up stuff) and it really left me fucked up with a bunch of mental problems and an unstable personality. I definitely feel very seen and I can really understand why Sasuke acts the way he does. He's forever my favorite character in anime
that's stupid. this isn't how characters are written.
traumatized teenager doesn't make him able to do anything lol. character writing should be cohesive. the character has established characterization that shouldn't be betrayed.
which means that him killing karin is BS
@@wwe12153blud trying so hard to be smart i think you forgot human can be eaten by hatred that's what happened to sasuke at that time
@@binatog123 bro, eaten by hatred is too vague. It is about how he is being eaten by hatred. Which wasn’t done well.
Let your brother kill your whole blood line (literally) then realised he did it because the government told him he HAD to in order to save your country and in order to protect you. Then get brainwashed by a masked man when you’re already vulnerable after learning the truth. And then tell me you wouldn’t have the same reaction as Sasuke
@@Remote.1s In fact, him having a "Chat" with the previous leaders shows that he is quite showing to his character.
The reason why Sasuke believe Obito about the Uchiha is because of Itachi not factoring that Obito have defence against Amaterasu, which cause Sasuke to contemplating why his brother implanted the fail safe on his eyes, which would give Obito the legitimacy to tell Sasuke about the Genocide of the Uchiha clan.
Because of this, Sasuke's world view shatter, which would led him to a deeper rage against Danzo and the Leaf. And then later on when after the second meeting of the now revived Itachi, Sasuke went to the 5 Kage and demand for answers.
Basically, Sasuke traces the problem and the reason why he and his people were suffer is because of the failed system place within the Shinobi world, which later on in Boruto shows just how Naruto is the wrong choice.
If all honestly, the step to the correct answer is a lesser version of Sasuke's revolution, and then build a new systems that would not let that happened, or at least lessen it.
A lot of people forget that outside of team seven he had no connection to the village,to him the village is the place that hurt him and nothing else
People also forget that the fact that Sasuke can function in the society he lives in is a incredible feat on itself i mean he was what 6 or 7 during the massacre
The hate Sasuke gets highlights the fact that a large part of the Naruto fanbase both have no understanding of basic human psychology and/or are hypocrites.
Most of what is in this video (and more) is what I've said about Sasuke for the last 15 years.
A lot of people gleefully overlook his extreme trauma and more so than anyone, he had to most motivation to become a villain in the entire show after experiencing the most prolonged trauma. He didn't just watch everyone he loved die once (like everyone else with a sad backstory), he had to watch it over and over and over and over and over...as a 7 year old dough eyed kid. On top of that, the person who serverely traumatized you was the closest person to you. Then the same guy comes back and bitches your sensei showcasing the fact that Konoha has nothing to offer you in terms of reaching ur goal and that Itachi could come back and kill anyone close to Sasuke if he wanted to all over again, meanwhile Orochimaru at least gave you tangable power you could see. So to protect the world from Itachi, it's a moral duty to not only avenge your clan but stop him from going on a massacre again whenever he feels like it...And to then find out that person massacred ur entire clan due to being used by the village you protected as a result of his blind patriotism to Konoha that was spurred from his trauma from witnessing war.
Of course Sasuke wasn't going to make the same mistake.
As if that wasn't enough, dude was born with Indra's curse of hatred, even if he wanted to be a goodie two shoes like his haters critique him for not being (they're clearly not very smart individuals either), just that curse alone predestined him to turn his back on Konoha like his predecessors already did.
I'm in the same boat, when people talk bad to me on certain characters in the series, I remind them to put themselves in your shoes at that age. They either get angry or have a moment, bottom line - they understand.
@@kharirichards That's true. But a lot of them don't want to understand
@@banshotenin1178 Troll those in denial. If you had to explain 3x to someone, and I still "refuting" everything you say, thats a troll, so trolling back. Works wonders 😎🙏🏿
@@kharirichards Hehe that's true. I used to do that in 2017 to point out their stupidity. These days though, I just let the morons be morons 🙂
Um well that takes years to actually understand him psychology the Naruto manga has always been for preteen and young adults as for tweens people were still hating on Sakura even when it wasn't her fault but her poor writing but the hate continue on a bunch of teenagers or younger are not going to psychology care what was Sasuke does mentally but his actions speak louder than words if you go to sage rain analysis he does a great job at it but we tend to hate characters like Sasuke because we were kids so we don't exactly understand we see his actions first
Also can we point out how bad the mental health services are in the Leaf village?
most people who shit on sasuke have that idea that "well if i were in that situation i would have done it the perfectly logical and optimized way" while forgetting that if you went through half the shit sasuke did as a child, you'd be so mentally fucked up that most people would just jump off a cliff.
Yeah, those people are self inserts gary sues who suck naruto off as a character. Nevermind how toxic Naruto was at times with how he tried to force his friendship on Sasuke
@@lapplandkun9273 not to mention how they are fully willing to justify what Konoha did to the Uchiha in general even though the Uchiha are literally like the "founding fathers" of Konoha. They were one of the two clans that came together to form the village and in return the village subjects them to segregation, systemic oppression and ethnic cleansing
Ya people act like your entire clan and your parents being killed can just be shaken off
This video is beautiful. Sasuke is a great character. It's fine to dislike him, but for people ( Western Fans ) to call him names, call him a "Gary stu" or some nonsense, is just sad.
yeah I don't even love Sasuke like that either I just think he's excessively hated on for some reason
Solid video. Sasuke is one of those characters that are hated on...just because. I don't think it's rational because other characters get lauded as best thing since sliced bread for similarly controversial decisions and brooding demeanor (Pain, Guts, Eren just to name some).
The great misunderstanding of Sasuke is the fact that he experienced loss like Naruto, but his loss was in many ways more sinister. Naruto was alone from the beginning. Sasuke became alone when the person he loved and trusted the most took everything from him. Naruto was hungry for attention, but Sasuke was scarred. To love and trust is to become vulnerable to getting hurt again.
Initially I was stunned that he wanted to destroy the leaf, but after thinking about it it made total sense. His hatred for Itachi was transferred to the Village that took everything from him.
I agree with Sasuke being a great character. I disaree with Itachi's Heel/Face turn being "Good Writing". Let's be honest, Kishimoto wasn't sure where he was going to go on multiple occasions. If viewed realistically, there is no way to defend the death of that many non-fighting individuals. Itachi had been built up as a self-hating "Hitler". His story arc was one of the two big retcons in the series along with Minato originally being the strongest hokage. The difference is that the Minato retcon didn't involve forgiving a genocide and ended up giving us the Hashirama vs Madara titan clash. Even after all that Sasuke had done, he still never came close to being as bad as the leadership of Konoha. Sasuke would've had to have killed a great many good characters to even come close. By the end Konoha still owes him alot and don't have the right to recompense.
He was right leaving leaf because at the same time jiraya was teaching naruto and his growth clearly stopped
Also, Danzo and the elders wronged his clan. Sasuke had no right to trust Konoha. I understand Hiruzen tried but he too was responsible for not keeping Danzo in check.
Excellent video, you perfectly pointed out the reasons behind Sasuke's actions. I would like to add that the village never tried to make amends with Sasuke. If it wasn't for Naruto, the village probably would have forgotten about Sasuke.
The people that don’t understand Sasuke’s actions either lack emotional intelligence or intelligence in general.
If you hate Sasuke, you're doing exactly what he wants you to do.
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Thank you, I'm so glad that someone finally decided to talk about this. I've been backing this guy against assholes for years. You did a great job 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Sasuke one of my most favorite character
2:15 I think people overlook that Sasuke calls Sakura annoying as a way to protect her from getting involved and hurt in the process. So the truth is that he actually cares about her (not that I ship them)
@@RandomGirl785 Of course he always cares of his team mates
Sasuke was a great character, a much better character than Naruto at the very least, but the itachi retcon ruined Sasuke's character completely.
All his life he wanted nothing but to avenge his clan - which is a totally justifiable and understandable position for Sasuke to have considering what he was made to go through by Itachi.
Yet, to support the itachi twist narrative Kishimoto made sasuke do one of the stupidest things someone in his position would do realistically, when Obito had that talk with him.
Obito standing 2 feet away from Sasuke told Sasuke to his face that he too was there that night murdering the people of the clan with Itachi.
Not only this not register as an important piece of information in sasukes head at the time, not only did Sasuke not add Obito (or Madara as he was claiming to be) to the list of people he need to kill to avenge his clan (because he was obviously too weak to kill Obito right there and then), he ended up joining Obitos terrorist organization??
That was definitely top 5 stupidest narrative lines Kishimoto ever conjured up in the story.
Sasuke all his life wanted to avenge to kill itachi to avenge the clan but some masked man just told him to his face that oh i was there too all up in that business, so instead of going oh im not done after itachi and theres another motherfucker i need to kill, he joins hands with him?
That was just so stupid.
Plus, why in the world would Sasuke believe anything Obito told him, about the Uchiha, or the "TRUTH" about itachi. Why in the world would the sole survivor of a genocide believe the words of a maniac whos also being super suspicious by hiding his face under a mask all the time, and who just admitted to being partly responsible to the tragedy. That made absolutely no sense. Theres no way someone in Sasuke's position would just accept everything that came out of Obitos mouth after Obito admitted to that, AND join hands with him.
Kishimoto really expects the audience to believe that Sasuke would throw away every bit of hatred he had for Itachi for committing genocide againt his clan and killing his mon and dad infront of him (and making him relive it over and over again under a genjutsu on two different occasions) and be all Kumbaya i am my brothers keeper right after a suspicious masked man just told him some story about how ACTUALLY itachi loved you he did that for u, he exterminated everyone you knew, from your parents to relatives, to neighbors, to friends and everyone he knew from his clan because he love you.. Would anyone actually believe that? in that situation? But no, Sasuke was no longer the avenger who hes being all his life right there and then, he didnt even care that Obito just told him he joined hands with Itachi to exterminate the clan. All in the service of retconning Itachi as a tragic hero, silent protector or some bullshit.
On and then Kishimoto went on and made Sauske go and revive Orochimaru and ask him to edo summon the previous Kage to ask THEM about the Uchiha and the genocide and whatnot. Instead of asking Orochimaru to edo summon people from his exterminated clan like his father to ask them directly about themselves and why they chose to rebel, what their motivation was etc. But noo, Sausuke got all his information from the two bastards that committed the atrocity - Obito and Iatchi - and the heads of the village that stands to gain from wiping out the clan that wasnt happy with how they were treated by the village. This too, to support the itachi twist narrative. In a world where reviving the dead is possible, Kishimato wants us to believe that the sole survivor would chose NOT to revive his own people so that they can tell him about their own history but instead chose to revive outsiders someone of whom were waring with his clan at one point like Hashirama and Tobirama, and ask THEM about his own clan?? Why in the world would Sasuke believe them, why would he believe Obito and Itachi, why did Kishimato do this stupid bullshit
did u even watch naruto lol. Madara was not involved in the massacre so that owuldnt make an sense and obito did not tell sasuke abt his involvement in the massacre so he wouldnt know. Also sasuke wanted to get revenge on the leaf for creating the conditions and environment for itachi to do that and the shock that his brother wasnt actually evil and the fact that he was told that itachi did it to protect sasuke and that he was watching over him all that time was what made sasuke do that. AAlso sasuke did doubt obito many times, in a light novel he even went to a clinic itachi went to to make sure he was actually sick, even in the anime sasuk doubted obito many times but obito was very convincing and he wasnt lying anyway so i dont see why that argument matters. Also if u use ur brain it is very easy to see that itachi was forced into this situation by the leaf, itachi prevented the destruction of the leaf and was seen as a villain for it, why wouldnt sasuke be angry? he was lied to his whole life and he just found out the leaf was actually the reason for his clan's demise this maes perfect sense lol
@@n.6847 r u stupid? first of all they r in a war and other than fugaku the uchiha clan wouldnt be able to help as much as the kage, second of all no one was lying so that point is invalid lol, thirdly itachi and the kage were literally dead they had nothing to gain from sasuke's acceptance and sasuke wanted to know what a village actully is and the meaning it holds, the uchiha wouldnt have been able to give him that answer. Fourthly sasuke did not know abt the history between senju and uchiha at this time so that also invalidates ur point lol
@@n.6847 Dude he asked orachimaru what is hokage and what is village. Orachimaru coldn't answer so he revived the hokage. And about reviving his clan after edo itachi told him that he will always love him sasuke matured and started thinking about his goals. If he just wanted to revive his clan he would not stop infinte tsukoyomi. A reality which can be what ever he wants.
The reason why Sasuke believed Obito was because Itachi gave Sasuke a trigger in his eyes that would kill Obito when looking at his eyes. It made Sasuke question as to how he was able to do that, and Obito gave him an explanation as to why the jutsu occured in the first place. Obito said that it was a trap made by Itachi. This statement made Sasuke question as to why Itachi tried to kill Obito. by implanting amaterasu in his eyes. That is when Obito tried to told him the truth, while Sasuke denied it vehemently, the information provided by Obito gave Sasuke the holes in the story as to why the Uchiha Massacre occurred in the first place. That Itachi was forced into an impossible situation
This was the reason why Sasuke was able to throw away the hatred against Itachi was because he knew that Itachi was a victim of manipulation caused by the village's incompetent government and the reason why he didn't try to kill obito may have several factors: 1. Because he was an Uchiha and 2. Because even if Obito did massacre the Uchiha, the direct cause for why he did it was because of the Leaf's government ;3. Obito provided a home for Itachi to be safe in while also being someone who lessens the burden of Itachi while killing Uchihas.
LISTEN!!!! I ALSO DID THIS! (Not to self promo) but I am happy to see someone with the same take.
AWESOME 🔥 your edits are super cool buddy. Mind telling me which of my long videos and shorts you like the most? Thanks
Sasuke is goated
I love Sasuke
Yup absolutely i think its the best character
It does seem like Sasuke so easily believes what people tell him, and never thinks for himself.
Heck even Itachi says "Sasuke is a blank canvas that can be painted any color."
Crazy that we have the editor to thank for the character
Why defend Sasuke? He did nothing wrong.
anyone who thinks sasuke is selfish clearly didn't watch the show with their eyes and ears open.
this guy gave up his entire life and chance of happiness for his families revenge
this guy tried to severe his only real bond for his families revenge
made the entire world his enemy for his brother's revenge
was willing to make entire world try to kill him for eternity just so world would be united
even his revenge against konoha was an act of selflessness from him, he knew what itachi would want from him, he knew that what he wanted would upset his brother but sasuke didn't care, we all think respecting someones wish is what is love but in reality it is just as selfish as batman not murdering his enemies, what sasuke essentially does is risking itachi hating him if it means he would be avenged, he clearly says i'd rather have itachi alive to hate me instead of let his blood on the floor just because it would be what he wanted, if you can't risk a loved one not approving of what you do for them and give up on what you believe to be the right thing to do and instead prefer to took a passive action and obey their wishes and give up on what you believe to be the right thing you don't love them, you just love being loved by them, think like this, if your father never acts harsh to you when you over-step your boundaries you would not become a decent adult, for your own good he needs to risk you having a grudge against him and this my friends is true selfless love.
sasuke is the most selfless character in this show, he literally gave up on his own life and identity to avenge his loved ones, he was merely a child but he gave up on everything life had to offer to him in order to bring justice to his clan, his only real selfish action during the entire serie was his fight against naruto at the roof top but even that was more of him getting frustrated over his inability to catch up to itachi.
Sasuke was real and human, the other characters including Naruto and even itachi are all about “the village”, the village that uses child soldiers and kills entire families
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And people forget he’s a teenager
I always find it funny that weaboos glorify Japanese culture but then there confused on why Sasuke wants to uphold his family's honor above all else. He's got the most traditional Japanese values of all the characters.
But not in the entire series but in episode 476 he was wrong
People Call him Gary Stu at the same time they point out his flows as a person.
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT BEING A GARY STU MEANS????
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Nah. There’s huge issues with this. His initial reason for leaving the Leaf make sense. He wants revenge on Itachi. He notices his weakness after the chunin exams . He’s helpless against Garra even in the partial transformation, and Nartuo summons Gamabunta showing a huge gap between them. Then when he finds Itachi his goal even with the Chirori not only does he fail to kill Itachi with his chidori but Itachi completely ignores him for Nartuo. And the last straw is how when he and Naruto clash Naruto’s Rasengan is superior to his chidori showing even without the summoning . Then the sound four easily trounce him even using the curse mark.Sasuke is too weak. He sees the power of the sound 4 and then once the ritual suceeeds he’s granted insane power by the curse mark. And Orochimaru made him far stronger than ever before and learning from him would be even better. Naruto Learned a huge summoning from a Sanin so with Orochimaru it would be amazing as well. Orochimaru killed a kage too.He goes to Orochimaru especially comparedIt’s one thing for Sasuke to want to be an avenger and not let anything like what happened to the his clan happen. It’s something else for him to say he’s gonna be hokage after being a missing nin, joining the akatsuki, and attacking the hokage summit and killing the hokage. Like yeah Danzo is a jerk and a traitor so nobody would care about him but the institution of the hokage and attacking the leaf is something else. There’s no chance of him ever becoming Hokage after his actions due to what the Hokage is and how they are chosen.
@@prasadvasupalli8755 When did he said to build rain village? He stopped using childrens as tools. Current chunin exam doesn't have death permission like old days. There isn't even war in naruto's era to use children.
Also sasuke didn't say hokage in a literal sense. In the last battle against naruto sasuke said itachi is a true hokage. He trying to become hokage in his own sense
@@prasadvasupalli8755 Everything you said about naruto was has
to be joking too. Cuz they are clearly wrong.
@@prasadvasupalli8755 Your comment make it obvious that you don't know what your talking about. Sarada can use chidori after she became a chunin. And side branches and main branches were equal wayyy before naruto become hokage. In the fourth war to be exact.
@@prasadvasupalli8755 Of course you need chunin exam. You need a way to test their skills. Otherwise they will just die. If you watch the chunin exam the jounin are monitoring every move. Tell me who died at chunin exam??? Naruto and kakashi offered a union to rain village. They just didn't except. He need to bring piece to entire world. Not just rain village. And why would you need to rebuild the unfixable village when you already take care of the villagers and you have bigger threats to deal.
Ikr naruto copied Goku in everything. The clothes the colour the power 😂😂😂 but Goku is Legend. Blonde hokagay is clown
Sasuke is a God and in my top 5. #1 is The God Pain. #2 Itachi. #3 Madara. #4 Obito. #5 Sasuke 🔥
you comparing sasuske to eren is ridiculous, they are both after vengeance but sasuke really shouldn’t have been trying to destroy the lead after killing itachi. he should’ve self reflected and realized maybe vengeance isn’t always the answer.
My big problem with Sasuke is that he puts everyone through all this crap and got no consequences for it.
See even if you understand Sasuke's reasons, it doesn't excuse him from accountability.
And yet Naruto, Sakura, kakashi and so on have no issues with letting Sasuke walk free at the series end. Even the excuse that he helped save the world doesn't matter because he immediately endangered it after beating Kaguya.
Then Sakura actually married Sasuke while Naruto lets Sasuke train his son Boruto.
Then again even Orochimaru became a karma Houdini so it's par the course I suppose.
Then what about the leaf village for the shit they pulled on Sasuke? Or what about the raikage for his attempted kidnapping of hinata? Double standards buddy. Can't have it both ways. Sasuke owes that village nothing and each and every one of them are terrible. He had every right to call them out. Don't single him out for the crap he pulled, which is nonexistent by the way, when Itachi did much worse. Watch the show critically without rose tinted glasses
@@lapplandkun9273 what shit? The leaf village did nothing to him. It was danzo who went behind the 3rd hokages back and ordered itachi to kill the rebelling Uchiha clan. It was also the Uchiha who were about to rebel for pride and hate. Sasuke knows this, but blames all of konoha anyway. The same konoha that sheltered him, fed him and protected him when was an orphan.
Sasuke doesn't have to like konoha, but he's definitely in the wrong and you know it even if we understand him. He deserved consequences and got nothing because he's Sasuke and got special treatment.
Raikage getting away with the hyuga thing is meant to make a point. Though I do wish neji and Hinata had a chance to confront the raikage.
@@ShadowShroud7 ok firstly the Uchiha were entirely justified in their coup. they were being ostracised and segregated in the very village they founded. They were not given any political power and were put under constant ANBU surveillance. They were being blamed for the Kyuubi attack even tho there was literally no evidence that it was them. It was the people of Konoha and its higher-ups that allowed for this isolation of an entire clan which lead to its massacre. You say "Konoha sheltered him, fed him, protected him," every single Uchiha shinobi gave their lives for the village, defended it, took the oath and they expect Konoha to shelter them not treat them as outcasts.
@@ShadowShroud7 the fact that the village still hasn't taken accountability for their actions in the Uchiha massacre makes it so much more disgusting, why should sasuke owe them anything for what they did to his clan
@@dmn12382 justified in a coup that would weaken everyone and ultimately no one wins? Yeah no. The Uchiha should have found another way instead of threatening rebellion. Like for instance, a boycott where all uchiha refuse to take ninja missions or act as military police. Or they could take things to court and face their accusers. They helped found konoha so don't tell me they couldn't do that.
But no, their pride and hatred got the better of them. They didn't even defend the village when the kyubi attacked so the suspicion isn't unfounded. And no don't tell me it's explained in a novel, if it's not in the manga then I don't care
Point being is that the Uchiha are responsible for their own fate. It's sad, but in truth they're not helpless innocent victims like Sasuke believed.
I think you miss the real criticisms about sasuke , in part 1 sasuke was a good character, his conflict and growth was done well , but in shippuden, everything went down , his arc became so nonsensical , it is like the writer was writing the action before writing the character, like how tf did sasuke chose to destroy the village after knowing the truth and become itachi yesman , itachi was still who murdered the clan ,
Fans like bad guys , if sasuke is hated , it is because he is annoying, not because he is a bad guy
How is he annoying?
@@auroralee3934 because he is badly written
It made sense for him to conclude it's the village's fault as, they systemically oppressed the Uchiha, that's why they wanted to do a coup remember
Because sasuke isn't a piece of shitt like itachi who licks government's boots. Leaf was responsible for oppressing uchihas and genociding them including his parents, innocent children, pregnant women and then covered it up and blamed itachi for everything.
Obviously he was going to make leaf pay for it.
@@appy4401 lol, sasuke literally said that itachi is perfect.