Since long ago, Hyundai has been making electric cars and hydrogen cars together. The reason is that electric cars are difficult for large cars such as buses and trucks. Hydrogen cars are strong and last a long time. Hydrogen is infinite, so in the end you have to go with a hydrogen car.
The Tesla model 3 battery is 1000 lb. Weight is going down... 2000 lb is overreacting. The 1000 lb battery of the Tesla Model 3 can do like 580km, the nexo can do 660km something.
LOL remember this is a marketing video and they are not going to tell you that the Fuel cell system weight ( HPTanks, fuel cell stack, compressor, battery,...etc. ) weighs about as much as the battery of a similar range current model BEV :)
This demonstration was very enlightening. Although how the liquid hydrogen transforms into current seemed too dificult to grasp. I can convert my car with a combustion engine to make hydrogen gas on demand as I need it without carrying any liquid hydrogen. But the fact that there are no moving parts common in my car to require replacement, This new car requires much less. And the electric motors are inside each wheel. But it would be conveinient to have a service vehicle to come top off my vehicle's range instead of find a refueling station before my vehicle runs out of energy to get to one.
What do you mean by charge? There are no batteries in the car to charge. You'll have to refill the hydrogen tanks with hydrogen at stations like the way you refuel gas at gas stations.
It's great to see alternatives to standard ICE and legacy fuels (petrol/diesel) but the room for improvement and speed of innovation of BEVs is larger/faster. FCEV requires the same supply chain as regular fuels therefore there's a gain in lower car emissions but the rest remains the same depending on how you produce the H2 to start with. Again, this is better than ICE and it's great to see alternatives, but I'd rather rip the band-aid at once and go BEV where you can generate your own fuel at home. I'm sure Hyundai is exploring BEVs as well.
did you consider how much water will be needed / circulated if fuel cell vehicles are mainstream? and how this is gonna effect the water balance of the earth?
This is nexo the next generation of vehicles this is far more advanced than anything Tesla has ever seen before this will be the new generation of the hydrogen cell vehicles this is the future not only this but hydrogen cell rockets will take us to Mars before he ever even contemplates it we are light years ahead of everyone else
Interesting. Too bad we have to get old...would love to see the technology in a 100 yrs from now. Question ...just exactly what happens with those 3 storage tanks when the vehicle gets into an accident and the tanks are compromised?
hydrogen cars can really ECONOMISE MORE FUEL COST THAN ELECTRIC CARS IF WE MODIFY OUR CURRENT HYDROGEN DISTRIBUTION APPROACH ! The biggest cause of hydrogen cost is that WE TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY TRUCKS, IT IS EXPENSIVE. Just try to avoid to transport hydrogen by trucks, then hydrogen will be very cheap. It means that NEED TO PRODUCE HYDROGEN ON SITES (WHERE FILLING HYDROGEN), OR TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY PIPE LINES. So we need to make 1 or 4modifications : 1/ Distributed hydrogen production on sites : hydrogen filling stations should be equipped with electrolysers, so hydrogen filling stations can produce hydrogen on sites from electricity outlets, instead of just receiving hydrogen from other places. Thus avoid problem cost of transfer hydrogen by trucks. Besides, nets of electrolysing hydrogen filling stations are ideal solution/market for intermittent renewable energy. It is new worldwide coming hydrogen distribution approach, so it opens markets of mobile small sized electrolysers. Electrolysers are not so expensive for hydrogen filling stations. 2/ Use compressed gas hydrogen batteries with mini household electrolysers/mini mobile electrolysers : small mobility vehicles/mobility machines/mobility robots/mobility drones …, will use hydrogen gas batteries (hydrogen gas battery =hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen gas ballon 200-300 bar). And each of these mobility machines can be sale with mini home electrolysers, so that owners can produce to fill hydrogen at homes (charge hydrogen batteries at home). Hydrogen ballon 300bar is enough, so that hydrogen battery 300bar(fuel cell +hydrogen ballon 300bar) can guarantee more energy capacity than best lithium batteries, and it guarantees that the size of hydrogen battery 300bar is not remarkable bigger than lithium battery of equivalent energy capacity. Of course 700bar allows more hydrogen storages, liquid hydrogen allows more hydrogen storage. But for hydrogen batteries, gas hydrogen ballons 300 bar are enough for balance of performance-capacity-size-energy convertion ratio-ballon material-simplicity. Hydrogen batteries 300bar + mini mobile electrolysers are ideal for two-wheel vehicles/small cars/small robots/drones and for trend of hydrogen mobility devices anywhere (easy to operate anywhere and easy to charge anywhere with electricity). 3/ hydrogen batteries for big station energy storage : Independent hydrogen batteries (hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen ballons > 300bar) + independent electrolyser is best variant. when excess energy, then run independent electrolyser. When need electricity, then run independent fuel cell. And intrigued working mechanism between independent fuel cell and independent electrolyser. That is all ! No complex automatic control system. 4/ hydrogen filling stations need to prefer using hydrogen pipe line than transporting hydrogen by trucks. 5/ The fundamental science dictates essential truth advantages of hydrogen. Science : if a chemical energy storage mechanism is charged as quick as producing hydrogen, then this mechanism PRACTICALLY CANNOT HAVE ENERGY CONVERTION RATIO BETTER THAN ELECTROLYSIS PROCESS. Besides, it is possible to adjust electrolysis reaction speed to get energy convertion ratio of electrolysis better than any chemical batteries. The best one of all possible chemical batteries in earth conditions is HYDROGEN BATTERY. All revolutions of chemical batteries, lithium batteries, LFP batteries, LTO batteries, graphene batteries .. are for reaching to the features of hydrogen batteries
Can imagine the epic booms that about to happen on the roads very soon. Btw they better start putting sleds instead of wheels for the northern versions of the model if they spit water from the back - Californians will never know the pain
@@Mark_conor Do you see any proof in your area or talked to someone in the industry to make you sure it's coming soon ? I wish I could get a job that is hydrogen related. More passionate about Hydrogen. Nothing going on in Puget Sound, WA area tho.
14 lbs for 380 miles In the units that the rest of the world uses 6.35 kg for 600 kms works out to about 1 kg per 100 kms At the moment hydrogen may cost $10 per kg which is about half the cost of driving a hiace van 100 km with zero emissions and refuelling faster than petrol
Hyundai Nexo and Toyota Mirai will not have much of a market unless more Hydrogen stations are built and the cost of hydrogen fuel is same or cheaper than current gas. Is HyundaiUSA doing anything to increase hydrogen infrastructure ???
It’s coming and with more demand price will fall. I don’t think you understand not everybody want a pure battery car some people enjoy driving hard and not restrained to a certain driving style to save battery range an life I know I do.
@@Mark_conor I agree with you on the not wanting pure battery car. I prefer FCEV. Toyota selling Mirai only in CA. I called Toyota of Seattle in my area & manager (who happened to come from CA & drove a mirai) said that there wont be any Mirai's in their dealership for at least couple of years. I prefer FCEV cause less likely to catch fire in my garage. Something about charging a car with tons of Liion batteries in my garage overnight makes me anxious. I wont even leave my house if my cell phone is charging. James May agrees that his FCEV is the least likely to catch fire compared to his ICE or EV cars. ua-cam.com/video/GaIW5CQQ3Zo/v-deo.html
@@OmegaGamer04 OK, I'll bite. I just watch a video explaining that there are very few Hydrogen fuel stations in the country and they are very expensive to build, I'll link below. That said, How does this work? According to the video I'm linking below, Hydrogen fuel cell batteries are very inefficient. Please review the video and respond. ua-cam.com/video/b88v-WvqzeQ/v-deo.html
@@josedelfinocavero OK, I'll bite. I just watch a video explaining that there are very few Hydrogen fuel stations in the country and they are very expensive to build, I'll link below. That said, How does this work? According to the video I'm linking below, Hydrogen fuel cell batteries are very inefficient. Please review the video and respond. ua-cam.com/video/b88v-WvqzeQ/v-deo.html
@@sfink16 thank you! I just learned that Hidrogen vehicles will not be popular and factories may stop making it. I believe the future is the sun and cars will have a solar panel in the roof. Of course that panel is not invented yet.
Well, grandpa said don’t rush buying any new products cause you will be paying for great ideas 💡 that poorly transformed to products Better wait a little till they realize reality and ideas are two different things Once they get there …put all your money in cause it is then a success for early birds
the reason battery is cheaper because again like oil the next consumable and profitable fuel is battery as h20 is infinite they still have secrecy lift in the universe so the underworld still balancing the books thats the whole reason fuel cell has to wait another 10 20 years untill the profit from our miserable life to keep the excitement going thanks your been infomed
Actually, it passed a lot of safety tests and received recognition by major safety organizations around the world. The tanks are made up of 5 layers of special materials made of heavy-duty carbon-fiber and Kevlar. They put the tank under a lot of pressure so that hydrogen can dissipate quickly in order to reduce explosions. The tank has passed major tests with rear collisions, burning, and being shot at with projectiles. The last video below shows these tests by Hyundai. REF: Hyundai NEXO fuel cell vehicle aces crash testing (Video) www.todaysmotorvehicles.com/video/hyundai-nexo-iihs-crash-test/ Hyundai NEXO reliability & safety www.drivingelectric.com/hyundai/nexo/reliability *Hydrogen, is it safe? | Hyundai Motor Group* www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/%255Bh-conomy%255D-hydrogen%252C-is-it-safe-0000016478
If hydrogen electric is that great, then why isn't everyone doing it? Its not as cost effective as BEV, no infrastructure, expensive to build, expensive to fill those tanks and has a very overall energy efficiency compared to straight up batteries.
They have figured it all out, they have efficient 40ft container based hydrogen generators that are dropped onto existing fuel station forecourts, so only mild adaption of existing infrastructure (compared to all the fast chargers way easier). Way faster to fill than a BEV, lighter and once developed will be as cheap to fuel. You akso have the potential with smart power grid to only generate hydrogen when renewable is producing or over producing, or it can be burnt to cover heavy loads essentially becoming the battery for the grid. I used to be anti hydrogen, but it makes far more sense to me than BEV.
Cost of hydrogen for those miles? This isn't an explanation at all of how we may someday soon use a fuel cell vehicle without some future owner details.
Between $12.85 and over $16 per KG with an average of $13.99 in California. In effect, equivalent of $5.00 a gallon on a per mile basis on average. For that you get a really expensive car with poor acceleration and poor interior and cargo space. So exciting!
@@tribalypredisposed This is the first gen sort of like the first gen Insight. Based on my convos with some scientists on base, this will be the future - not Li batteries. Appreciate the reality check, though.
@@dryadsdad , HFCVs date back sixty years already. This is tenth generation technology that is more inferior to the competition every day. Daimler just gave up on it after thirty years of work. VW Group recently published their conclusions of their research stating that there were essentially no benefits to HFCVs over BEVs and showing that HFCVs were massively less efficient, at best half as efficient as the least efficient EV on a power to wheel analysis. This technology is a huge waste of money and engineering talent that humanity needs to use in productive ways instead. It will never be adopted by consumers because the cars that result from using this technology have nothing to recommend them. There is no feature or performance metric they provide that buyers want. The only reason there is any interest in HFCVs is because they would create huge demand for natural gas, to the benefit of the fossil fuels industry.
@@tribalypredisposed Hello Sir, can you please leave the reference articles which state that VW group and Daimler group gave up on Fuel cells? Are there research articles backing up these numbers? There seems to be a growing number of unsubstantiated claims on this topic. It would be really helpful to end the debate with numbers.
@@tribalypredisposed And BEV's are more than 100 years old and you would have been laughed at 12 years ago for thinking it was a viable method of transportation.
This is clean energy build back better where it's actually electric cars pollute the air that's a fact in fact electric cars EV cars pollute the air more than gas combustion engines that's a fact what you're looking at is a CO2 levels that are increasing from the electric cars this is a myth that it's clean energy my new car is the hydrogen electric Eevee this is water water is clean air build back better this will be 50 to 100
The hydrogen is stored at a pressure over 700 atmospheres. Compressing it takes a large amount of energy, which is not recovered when the car runs. When you step on the brakes, the car does not reverse the electrolysis and recreate hydrogen, it uses batteries. When the hydrogen is made in the USA, the process uses natural gas, pollution is made, and energy is lost. If the hydrogen is made from water, by electrolysis, 20-30% of the energy is lost. These repeated inefficiencies make the hydrogen passenger car a stunt, not a sustainable product. The car is being used for public relations, with economic losses to Hyundai recouped from the Korean (and US) taxpayers. The real product, where the weight counts, is the long haul heavy truck, which may be sustainable, but only if the hydrogen is produced by electrolysis.
Hydrogen production, transport and usage is inherently inefficient. With these challenges still in place, how do you justify Hydrogen FCEVs to the public?
Electric power generation using fossil fuels is also inherently inefficient. Until power generation goes nuclear, BEV’s are still dirtier than FCEV’s, and still suffer from issues with charging-time and energy density. Further, hydrogen holds more promise for powering ocean freighters and large transport-category aircraft. Personally, I prefer the advantages of a hydrogen powered car.
"Poorly." I mean, the result is an expensive car with no positive features and lots of negatives, including a lot of climate change causing gas releases and groundwater pollution from fracking for the natural gas they crack for the Hydrogen.
@Trigger Troll , where and how, exactly, do you think the metals used for an ICE car are obtained? Where and how do they get the materials for a HFCV? In general, two items made from metal of approximately the same weight will require about the same amount of mining. A Mirai weighs 4,075 lbs and the heaviest Model 3 Performance with the 21" performance wheels weighs just 25lbs more. The lightest Model 3 is 500 + lbs lighter than the Mirai and outperforms it in every way for $20,000 less. This general rule stops being true when we start using palladium in our hydrogen fuel stacks, which requires a lot of tonnage of rocks be mined to obtain...
@@Mark_conor Lol, so the electricity for EVs causes pollution, but using three times as much electricity per mile, as hydrogen FCEVs do, is cleaner? Y times 3 is less than Y? Go back to grade seven and see if you can grasp it better this time.
@@tribalypredisposed hydrogen can be extracted from existing oil fields. By injecting oxygen into the field it will release the hydrogen while trapping the co2 in the ground. There are other methods as well that are easy and require next to no energy to produce (while producing several other valuable gasses as well) so the thought that it can only be generated through electrolysis of water is quite ignorant.
You don't charge it, it doesn't have a battery. You fill up the high pressure tanks with hydrogen gas like you would with a petrol tank. You can't refill it from home unless you have the correct hydrogen infrastructure. It is filled up at a hydrogen tank refilling station
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Impressed with Hyundai technology!
Me2!!!
Thanks 😎
Since long ago, Hyundai has been making electric cars and hydrogen cars together. The reason is that electric cars are difficult for large cars such as buses and trucks. Hydrogen cars are strong and last a long time. Hydrogen is infinite, so in the end you have to go with a hydrogen car.
Cheering Hyundai for educating consumers about its hydrogen fuel powered engine.
This is the future...fingers crossed
Wow very coool Technologies and the Hyundai Nexo is very cool verhicle👌
We're happy to hear you like it 👍
I love electric bagels
14 lbs or hydrogen vs 2,000 lb battery. That's significant. By the way, how much do the hydrogen fuel tanks and fuel stack weigh?
The Tesla model 3 battery is 1000 lb. Weight is going down... 2000 lb is overreacting. The 1000 lb battery of the Tesla Model 3 can do like 580km, the nexo can do 660km something.
LOL remember this is a marketing video and they are not going to tell you that the Fuel cell system weight ( HPTanks, fuel cell stack, compressor, battery,...etc. ) weighs about as much as the battery of a similar range current model BEV :)
@@HermanWillems true
I love Hyundai..
Cool no closed captions, thanks for being accessible 👍🏻😝 I was interested in learning more about this car too
Captions are now available-but they are auto generated and very poor.
@@dalex7777 only in Vietnamese, I need it in English 😩
Very very cool. What are the precautions taken in order to avoid explosion in case of accidents?
Love it can’t wait to test drive !
Are you guys planning on making hydrogen combustion cars as well as the fuel cells?
I am very glad Hundai made it. Thank you , thank you very much.
Is this nexo coming india ???
Kindly inform me.
This demonstration was very enlightening. Although how the liquid hydrogen transforms into current seemed too dificult to grasp. I can convert my car with a combustion engine to make hydrogen gas on demand as I need it without carrying any liquid hydrogen. But the fact that there are no moving parts common in my car to require replacement, This new car requires much less. And the electric motors are inside each wheel. But it would be conveinient to have a service vehicle to come top off my vehicle's range instead of find a refueling station before my vehicle runs out of energy to get to one.
Does it have batteries too ?
To my knowledge fuel-cell cars need also some smaller battery that acts as an electricity buffer, is this true?
How to get charge in house ? Do they provide solution to charge the car?
What do you mean by charge? There are no batteries in the car to charge. You'll have to refill the hydrogen tanks with hydrogen at stations like the way you refuel gas at gas stations.
Able to have a nitro water system at the house?
It's great to see alternatives to standard ICE and legacy fuels (petrol/diesel) but the room for improvement and speed of innovation of BEVs is larger/faster. FCEV requires the same supply chain as regular fuels therefore there's a gain in lower car emissions but the rest remains the same depending on how you produce the H2 to start with. Again, this is better than ICE and it's great to see alternatives, but I'd rather rip the band-aid at once and go BEV where you can generate your own fuel at home. I'm sure Hyundai is exploring BEVs as well.
So battery manufacturing is one hundred percent clean? You’re ignorant
Mark Conor I didn’t say that. Didn’t even imply it. Learn to read.
Not everyone has the ability to charge at home and you still have rangers issues.
@@tacitus539 I know. You need that thing called electricity it’s very rare in homes
@@alesssj4 A lot of city dwellers don't have a garage and need to park their car in the street. How are they supposed to recharge?
What happens with it in a car crash assuming the tanks are getting damaged?
did you consider how much water will be needed / circulated if fuel cell vehicles are mainstream? and how this is gonna effect the water balance of the earth?
This is nexo the next generation of vehicles this is far more advanced than anything Tesla has ever seen before this will be the new generation of the hydrogen cell vehicles this is the future not only this but hydrogen cell rockets will take us to Mars before he ever even contemplates it we are light years ahead of everyone else
What is the cost of a fuel cell stack vs a BEV battery pack?
And when filling up, presumably with hydrogen, what gas stations will have hydrogen pumping stations? Sounds like a weak link to me.
Soooooo, how and where do You "fill up"?
Interesting. Too bad we have to get old...would love to see the technology in a 100 yrs from now.
Question ...just exactly what happens with those 3 storage tanks when the vehicle gets into an accident and the tanks are compromised?
What if you crass that high pressure tank a big boom? 😬
What if a tank gets punctured?
What about safety terms hydrogen is flambel I think incase any leakage what will happen
And what about fuel availability
hydrogen cars can really ECONOMISE MORE FUEL COST THAN ELECTRIC CARS IF WE MODIFY OUR CURRENT HYDROGEN DISTRIBUTION APPROACH !
The biggest cause of hydrogen cost is that WE TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY TRUCKS, IT IS EXPENSIVE. Just try to avoid to transport hydrogen by trucks, then hydrogen will be very cheap. It means that NEED TO PRODUCE HYDROGEN ON SITES (WHERE FILLING HYDROGEN), OR TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY PIPE LINES.
So we need to make 1 or 4modifications :
1/ Distributed hydrogen production on sites : hydrogen filling stations should be equipped with electrolysers, so hydrogen filling stations can produce hydrogen on sites from electricity outlets, instead of just receiving hydrogen from other places. Thus avoid problem cost of transfer hydrogen by trucks. Besides, nets of electrolysing hydrogen filling stations are ideal solution/market for intermittent renewable energy.
It is new worldwide coming hydrogen distribution approach, so it opens markets of mobile small sized electrolysers. Electrolysers are not so expensive for hydrogen filling stations.
2/ Use compressed gas hydrogen batteries with mini household electrolysers/mini mobile electrolysers : small mobility vehicles/mobility machines/mobility robots/mobility drones …, will use hydrogen gas batteries (hydrogen gas battery =hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen gas ballon 200-300 bar). And each of these mobility machines can be sale with mini home electrolysers, so that owners can produce to fill hydrogen at homes (charge hydrogen batteries at home). Hydrogen ballon 300bar is enough, so that hydrogen battery 300bar(fuel cell +hydrogen ballon 300bar) can guarantee more energy capacity than best lithium batteries, and it guarantees that the size of hydrogen battery 300bar is not remarkable bigger than lithium battery of equivalent energy capacity. Of course 700bar allows more hydrogen storages, liquid hydrogen allows more hydrogen storage. But for hydrogen batteries, gas hydrogen ballons 300 bar are enough for balance of performance-capacity-size-energy convertion ratio-ballon material-simplicity.
Hydrogen batteries 300bar + mini mobile electrolysers are ideal for two-wheel vehicles/small cars/small robots/drones and for trend of hydrogen mobility devices anywhere (easy to operate anywhere and easy to charge anywhere with electricity).
3/ hydrogen batteries for big station energy storage : Independent hydrogen batteries (hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen ballons > 300bar) + independent electrolyser is best variant. when excess energy, then run independent electrolyser. When need electricity, then run independent fuel cell. And intrigued working mechanism between independent fuel cell and independent electrolyser. That is all ! No complex automatic control system.
4/ hydrogen filling stations need to prefer using hydrogen pipe line than transporting hydrogen by trucks.
5/ The fundamental science dictates essential truth advantages of hydrogen.
Science : if a chemical energy storage mechanism is charged as quick as producing hydrogen, then this mechanism PRACTICALLY CANNOT HAVE ENERGY CONVERTION RATIO BETTER THAN ELECTROLYSIS PROCESS. Besides, it is possible to adjust electrolysis reaction speed to get energy convertion ratio of electrolysis better than any chemical batteries. The best one of all possible chemical batteries in earth conditions is HYDROGEN BATTERY. All revolutions of chemical batteries, lithium batteries, LFP batteries, LTO batteries, graphene batteries .. are for reaching to the features of hydrogen batteries
Can imagine the epic booms that about to happen on the roads very soon.
Btw they better start putting sleds instead of wheels for the northern versions of the model if they spit water from the back - Californians will never know the pain
How do you even get hydrogen
👍
Very Cool Technology, but you need the infrastructure in USA to make these cars viable consumer candidates.
It’s coming
When cell phones first came out, they didn’t have towers all over the country either, but look what has happened since then.
@@tacitus539 I hope hydrogen happens soon, but cell towers less money intensive to up than Hydrogen station.
@@Mark_conor Do you see any proof in your area or talked to someone in the industry to make you sure it's coming soon ? I wish I could get a job that is hydrogen related. More passionate about Hydrogen. Nothing going on in Puget Sound, WA area tho.
@@sevencostanza3931 Good point, but the hydrogen station price will come down. I’m sure of it.
14 lbs for 380 miles
In the units that the rest of the world uses
6.35 kg for 600 kms
works out to about 1 kg per 100 kms
At the moment hydrogen may cost $10 per kg which is about half the cost of driving a hiace van 100 km with zero emissions and refuelling faster than petrol
Large-scale hydrogen storage
Was the Hindenburg full of hydrogen, just asking?
Hyundai Nexo and Toyota Mirai will not have much of a market unless more Hydrogen stations are built and the cost of hydrogen fuel is same or cheaper than current gas. Is HyundaiUSA doing anything to increase hydrogen infrastructure ???
It’s coming and with more demand price will fall. I don’t think you understand not everybody want a pure battery car some people enjoy driving hard and not restrained to a certain driving style to save battery range an life I know I do.
@@Mark_conor I agree with you on the not wanting pure battery car. I prefer FCEV. Toyota selling Mirai only in CA. I called Toyota of Seattle in my area & manager (who happened to come from CA & drove a mirai) said that there wont be any Mirai's in their dealership for at least couple of years. I prefer FCEV cause less likely to catch fire in my garage. Something about charging a car with tons of Liion batteries in my garage overnight makes me anxious. I wont even leave my house if my cell phone is charging. James May agrees that his FCEV is the least likely to catch fire compared to his ICE or EV cars. ua-cam.com/video/GaIW5CQQ3Zo/v-deo.html
2:06 CA freeways 🛣? You don’t need much power to sit in traffic lol.
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This aged well
World should focus on hydrogen rather than li-ion batteries
I didn't understand about the fueling itself. Where do I pull into to get the hydrogen fuel? If I'm even asking the right question the correct way.
you will pull into a Hydrogen Gas Station to buy Hidrogen , same as buying propane or natural gas to fill up the tanks
Hydrogen fuel stations. They work similar to normal fuel stations and top the tank off in 2-5 min.
@@OmegaGamer04 OK, I'll bite. I just watch a video explaining that there are very few Hydrogen fuel stations in the country and they are very expensive to build, I'll link below. That said, How does this work? According to the video I'm linking below, Hydrogen fuel cell batteries are very inefficient. Please review the video and respond. ua-cam.com/video/b88v-WvqzeQ/v-deo.html
@@josedelfinocavero OK, I'll bite. I just watch a video explaining that there are very few Hydrogen fuel stations in the country and they are very expensive to build, I'll link below. That said, How does this work? According to the video I'm linking below, Hydrogen fuel cell batteries are very inefficient. Please review the video and respond. ua-cam.com/video/b88v-WvqzeQ/v-deo.html
@@sfink16 thank you! I just learned that Hidrogen vehicles will not be popular and factories may stop making it. I believe the future is the sun and cars will have a solar panel in the roof. Of course that panel is not invented yet.
“Ayy uhhh” Your fired.
Liquid hydrogen
when the hell will canada have hydrogen fill stations... so behind up here..
"To change heavy batteries on other cars it can be so expensive" ...?!? But to change fuel cell after few years it can costs up to 45 000 EUR.
Why hydrogen car still inferior in performance compared to ICE car? considering development already some decade's ago
Well, grandpa said don’t rush buying any new products cause you will be paying for great ideas 💡 that poorly transformed to products
Better wait a little till they realize reality and ideas are two different things
Once they get there …put all your money in cause it is then a success for early birds
the reason battery is cheaper because again like oil the next consumable and profitable fuel is battery as h20 is infinite they still have secrecy lift in the universe so the underworld still balancing the books thats the whole reason fuel cell has to wait another 10 20 years untill the profit from our miserable life to keep the excitement going thanks your been infomed
It will blast like a bomb in case of accident
There is a video on the Hyundai channel where its explained...its not possible to produce something like this without professional testing
Actually, it passed a lot of safety tests and received recognition by major safety organizations around the world. The tanks are made up of 5 layers of special materials made of heavy-duty carbon-fiber and Kevlar. They put the tank under a lot of pressure so that hydrogen can dissipate quickly in order to reduce explosions. The tank has passed major tests with rear collisions, burning, and being shot at with projectiles. The last video below shows these tests by Hyundai.
REF:
Hyundai NEXO fuel cell vehicle aces crash testing (Video)
www.todaysmotorvehicles.com/video/hyundai-nexo-iihs-crash-test/
Hyundai NEXO reliability & safety
www.drivingelectric.com/hyundai/nexo/reliability
*Hydrogen, is it safe? | Hyundai Motor Group*
www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/%255Bh-conomy%255D-hydrogen%252C-is-it-safe-0000016478
The fuel cell seems unnecessarily complex
Why not simply burn hydrogen in an ICE engine
Hydrogen explode oh no...
If hydrogen electric is that great, then why isn't everyone doing it? Its not as cost effective as BEV, no infrastructure, expensive to build, expensive to fill those tanks and has a very overall energy efficiency compared to straight up batteries.
Then stick to your battery 🤦🏽♂️ this is a good tech.
They have figured it all out, they have efficient 40ft container based hydrogen generators that are dropped onto existing fuel station forecourts, so only mild adaption of existing infrastructure (compared to all the fast chargers way easier).
Way faster to fill than a BEV, lighter and once developed will be as cheap to fuel.
You akso have the potential with smart power grid to only generate hydrogen when renewable is producing or over producing, or it can be burnt to cover heavy loads essentially becoming the battery for the grid.
I used to be anti hydrogen, but it makes far more sense to me than BEV.
@@ruuman I still think hybrids are the way to go with really small motors to recharge or for long hauls but hydrogen seems legit
Cost of hydrogen for those miles? This isn't an explanation at all of how we may someday soon use a fuel cell vehicle without some future owner details.
Between $12.85 and over $16 per KG with an average of $13.99 in California. In effect, equivalent of $5.00 a gallon on a per mile basis on average. For that you get a really expensive car with poor acceleration and poor interior and cargo space. So exciting!
@@tribalypredisposed This is the first gen sort of like the first gen Insight. Based on my convos with some scientists on base, this will be the future - not Li batteries. Appreciate the reality check, though.
@@dryadsdad , HFCVs date back sixty years already. This is tenth generation technology that is more inferior to the competition every day. Daimler just gave up on it after thirty years of work. VW Group recently published their conclusions of their research stating that there were essentially no benefits to HFCVs over BEVs and showing that HFCVs were massively less efficient, at best half as efficient as the least efficient EV on a power to wheel analysis.
This technology is a huge waste of money and engineering talent that humanity needs to use in productive ways instead. It will never be adopted by consumers because the cars that result from using this technology have nothing to recommend them. There is no feature or performance metric they provide that buyers want. The only reason there is any interest in HFCVs is because they would create huge demand for natural gas, to the benefit of the fossil fuels industry.
@@tribalypredisposed Hello Sir, can you please leave the reference articles which state that VW group and Daimler group gave up on Fuel cells? Are there research articles backing up these numbers? There seems to be a growing number of unsubstantiated claims on this topic. It would be really helpful to end the debate with numbers.
@@tribalypredisposed And BEV's are more than 100 years old and you would have been laughed at 12 years ago for thinking it was a viable method of transportation.
But what is she wearing 🌝……
This is clean energy build back better where it's actually electric cars pollute the air that's a fact in fact electric cars EV cars pollute the air more than gas combustion engines that's a fact what you're looking at is a CO2 levels that are increasing from the electric cars this is a myth that it's clean energy my new car is the hydrogen electric Eevee this is water water is clean air build back better this will be 50 to 100
The hydrogen is stored at a pressure over 700 atmospheres. Compressing it takes a large amount of energy, which is not recovered when the car runs. When you step on the brakes, the car does not reverse the electrolysis and recreate hydrogen, it uses batteries. When the hydrogen is made in the USA, the process uses natural gas, pollution is made, and energy is lost. If the hydrogen is made from water, by electrolysis, 20-30% of the energy is lost. These repeated inefficiencies make the hydrogen passenger car a stunt, not a sustainable product. The car is being used for public relations, with economic losses to Hyundai recouped from the Korean (and US) taxpayers. The real product, where the weight counts, is the long haul heavy truck, which may be sustainable, but only if the hydrogen is produced by electrolysis.
Hydrogen production, transport and usage is inherently inefficient. With these challenges still in place, how do you justify Hydrogen FCEVs to the public?
Electric power generation using fossil fuels is also inherently inefficient.
Until power generation goes nuclear, BEV’s are still dirtier than FCEV’s, and still suffer from issues with charging-time and energy density.
Further, hydrogen holds more promise for powering ocean freighters and large transport-category aircraft.
Personally, I prefer the advantages of a hydrogen powered car.
"Poorly." I mean, the result is an expensive car with no positive features and lots of negatives, including a lot of climate change causing gas releases and groundwater pollution from fracking for the natural gas they crack for the Hydrogen.
@Trigger Troll , where and how, exactly, do you think the metals used for an ICE car are obtained? Where and how do they get the materials for a HFCV? In general, two items made from metal of approximately the same weight will require about the same amount of mining. A Mirai weighs 4,075 lbs and the heaviest Model 3 Performance with the 21" performance wheels weighs just 25lbs more. The lightest Model 3 is 500 + lbs lighter than the Mirai and outperforms it in every way for $20,000 less. This general rule stops being true when we start using palladium in our hydrogen fuel stacks, which requires a lot of tonnage of rocks be mined to obtain...
Trigger Troll also electricity needs oil to power you EV some people are oblivious they believe everything the sales guy says.
tribalypredisposed this has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve read all day.
@@Mark_conor Lol, so the electricity for EVs causes pollution, but using three times as much electricity per mile, as hydrogen FCEVs do, is cleaner? Y times 3 is less than Y? Go back to grade seven and see if you can grasp it better this time.
@@tribalypredisposed hydrogen can be extracted from existing oil fields. By injecting oxygen into the field it will release the hydrogen while trapping the co2 in the ground. There are other methods as well that are easy and require next to no energy to produce (while producing several other valuable gasses as well) so the thought that it can only be generated through electrolysis of water is quite ignorant.
How to get charge in house ? Do they provide solution to charge the car?
You don't charge it, it doesn't have a battery. You fill up the high pressure tanks with hydrogen gas like you would with a petrol tank. You can't refill it from home unless you have the correct hydrogen infrastructure. It is filled up at a hydrogen tank refilling station