Unreal gameplay on 3DfX Voodoo2 SLI
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2011
- Remember when you played Unreal the first time?
Enjoy some gameplay capture from the game Unreal from 1998.
And this is just the beginning...
Exiting the Vortex Rikers at 6:20
Trap at 12:00
System was P3 650 MHz / Voodoo2 SLI / SB AWE32.
This was captured lossless from VGA with Epiphan VGA2PCIe and encoded with x264.
Need more cycles? Try the HQ capture at full 60 fps from retronn.de/ftp/videos/games/un... - Ігри
I always found this game very underated.
Many people liked much more unreal tournament and counter strike.
This game on an old 98 and a soundblaster live + the vodoos a nice CRT monitor and pure bliss
delukard07 Soundblaster Live was amazing, and Unreal used EAX1 fully
This. Is. Perfect. Unreal is the Vitruvius of videogames, beautiful to see, sensational to listen to, original background, rich and surprising gameplay. Anyone who has played this back then can't help it not to have chills everytime they see it, specially when exiting the Vortex Rikers. Nothing I play today will ever make me feel like I did for Unreal.
What a masterpiece of gaming history
6:24 gave me chills the first time I heard the music change and I stepped outside. The sun flare and sky had me paused for a few seconds just say woah! lol :). Good memories and awesome game. Quake II and Unreal forever :).
simonriddick yeah... its so.. unreal... :D
7:52 breath taking view for graphics back in those days
Yeah indeed, like the majestic and beatiful view of entering on the Zora domain in Zelda Ocarina of time.
I had a 486 at the time and the best thing I had played was Doom. Then a friend with his new Pentium 200mmx and Voodoo 2 showed me this. My jaw was floored!
Unreal had realistic transparent and animated water years before environment mapped bump mapping or pixel shaders were invented.
this is the first game i played where i said wow amazing graphics. The waterfall part at the start of the game is incredible.
don't be fooled, this is very advanced technology even now 20 years later. I am learning how to code a 3d engine and some low level stuff and this one already has dynamic lighting in 1998, that's crazy. When you know how it all works on the low level you see that the tech has not changed that much, it's just higher resolution textures and a bunch of shading on top of it (shadows).
tech has absolutely changed, rtx cards of modern day are literally thousands of times more efficient than voodoo2 cards in SLI, during 1999 usage of graphics API like glide was also very rare and GPUs at this quality were very expensive, this was truly bleeding edge for its time, and now a $100 phone can run this game multiple times better today consuming less than a quarter of the energy.
@@ChristopherGray00 he's talking abou the underlying graphics pipeline and rasterization, not the hadware.
Still awe-inspiring when you leave the derelict ship.
Good old memories of the years 1999 and 2000 when I played this game on my Pentium II with a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 card 16mb, it looked amazing at that time, and mine was considered one of the best machines for games back then!
A 400 mhz processor!
Good times! I had P3 450mhz, 64mb ram + Voodoo 3 3500 16mb + 17'' CRT in the middle of 1999. My second PC... the nostalgia, ah!! ^ ^
o man i remember when i got this for my B-day i had a 3dfx voodoo 3 2000 it ran so nice scored a voodoo 3 3000 a few years later... i have recreated the system but with nicer parts.. AMD K6-III @ 550mhz and a voodoo 5 5500
Oh the detailtextures. Goosebumps from the colored lights, music and sounds. What a great start of a game.
Old memories... I had two Voodoo 2 graphic cards on my pc back then. I played this game in the dark room with my head phones on. This is freaking scary!!
i still own an RETROPC 686er amd(tm)k6-III @500mhz
393mb ram ( pc133 )
2x 3dfx voodoo2 sli-connected.
ati rage fury 32mb agp4x
and a lot of them ole 3dfx games.....its fun for ever & all time....thank you,for posting this.great stuff....
That was a sick computer back in the days!
I remember the first time I played Unreal, like it was yesterday.
I used a Pentium II MMX 350mhz with a Voodoo Banshee, and I got tired of hearing "Why don't you aim?".
I'm not very good at this game yet, but I actually DID only got it yesterday...
retro-gamer forever!
Awwe man! this was the golden age of pc gaming!
Wow nostalgia! I used to spawn npcs and watch them fight or spawn them so they’d fall down and explode haha
what a fun game back in 1998. the music is very godt. unreal 1998 good times.
Oh man how I miss this game!
I'll never forget the first time if ired up this game on a PII 266 and a Techworks Voodoo II. The music, the silky smooth graphics...I had arrived.
I had a pair of those Techworks V2's, they were an absolute steal for the price and (usually) worked fine. Certainly beat the pants off anything else at the time in SLI
You can reupload this video using the 60 FPS footage since UA-cam now supports 60 FPS video
Carlos S. M. Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/DkglUBVH1wk/v-deo.html
that was the best time in my life when i got myne voodoo2 and Unreal :)
Great game, great soundtrack with amazing graphics !
I've still got a P350 Voodoo 2 SLI running.
Good video mate.
Yeah I remember playing Unreal first time. Graphics were unbelievable.
I remember this game and its beautiful,that old times :)
6:35 listen to that music and enjoy. To me its just like traveling back in time.
Those graphics were sooo beautiful at the time...why even play this game without a voodoo 2!!!!
Arguably the greatest FPS game when it comes to art!
The thing that blew me away in this game was the mipmapping - For it's day it had some really good high res textures when you got up really close to things. Stuff like woodgrain looked really good up close whereas in Quake it would be an antialiased blur.
The older games like these were more fun to play :)
Great game, i play this today on my win 98 computer and 3dfx voodoo 3 agp card
Still my favourite. Nothing else comes close to this atmosphere.
eh.... this music and atmosphere, how innovative and bold ideas everything was in those days, and not the commercial conveyor that is now...... I'm crying......
0:07 - 0:12 Ray tracing spotted. xD Look at the floor
Please don't beat me up... :\
i remember that skaarj warrior introduction scene, the first time i played this game was with 2 of my brothers, when the lights went out we stood with our backs to each other in anticipation of some sort of ambush, the poor skaarj was met with a hail of bullets. i wish modern first person shooters were made this way..
amazing-just seeing this now :D
last one i saw was standalone poopy voodo. this is mint.
I miss this game so much. I'd love them to re-release it on mac
Could never get this to run in SLI with my cards, it always had tearing issues.. but it did work with dual Banshees. Those days were awesome!
***** Never heard of anyone doing SLI with Banshees. In my opinion the Banshee was one of the best 2D / 3D graphic cards ever made.
You have to tweak the drivers in order to remove tearing ^^
Back when tweaking drivers was possible, all hail Omega Drivers Too :D Had to love Glide drivers though.
I remember playing this back in 1999 on my old pentium 3 500mhz and my 8mb ati rage.
02:40 A prison ship with a glass floor. Just because we have the technology.
I loved the time.
The good old days !!!! I had Voodoo2 SLI and it was the shit hahahah
dat health pickup sound....
ahhh good times.
Holy shit you still have the ANCIENT Voodoo 3Dfx?
Wow...I remember those way back :D
Still works like a charm. Maybe you remember a few more cards: retronn.de/imports/hwgal/hwgal_empty.html
this is the best unreal game ever
3Dfx true power.
Just take care that a framebuffer grab and vga out capture is different due to the additional filtering in the output DAC of the Voodoos.
The TOP gaming PC in 1998
Thank you for this video! A game that truly ahead of its time and the music still gives me the chillz!
BTW, were you playing it for the first time...why were you playing so horrible?!
Quake 2 was the best game ever when arrived, but i think Unreal surpassed im in graphics. Just amzing for 1998. Miss those glory days of 3d.
how would i get it working on an amd k6 2 500 mhz
Same setup we had! 3Dfx Voodoo 2 I mean.
I swear the movie Avatar took so much from this game... the visuals, the worlds the atmosphere even colors...
i reinstalled this game from some old cd's runs great on a gtx 980 1920x1440 @ 999 fps - fraps has a limit :P
Can you make a video of "Aliens vs. Predator 2" on Voodoo 2 SLI please, Michael Huth?
If you get the Steam version of Unreal, there's a 227i patch that will fix the framerate problem and add DirectX9 support.
Yes, but the latest Unreal renderer doesn't run on oldschool hardware platforms anymore.
i dont remember, i dont have the cd anymore but i have it on that pc's hard drive. So do you want it with the 3dfx patch? or just a plain install? (i could just get that off the gog.com torrent list)
I want the 3dfx compatible version...you can zip the folder from the hdd if its the 3dfx version. I already have the regular version actually.
ONS-CBP2-VALARNA, now I know where that map's music comes from.
I was thinking of doing voodoo 2 sli on my 486 pc or would i just stick to the classic voodoo1? i do have 2 pci slots and a dx4 100mhz which i want to replace with a pentium overdrive to overclock. any thoughts on anything else i should go for?
I have seen it work before on a 486 but i thought it would be quite tough
mostly for the shits and giggles tbh i don't like the cpu that's in it and i'm going for an overdrive.
i love the overdrive for some reason it's a good upgrade from the 486 as i use xwe for modding doom and it's pretty slow on it even my pentium laptop is way faster.
+Scrumpy YOS I don't think that's a good idea. Of course it will probably work, but ... It will not perform great at all ...
In my opinion this is useless, none of the 486/pentium overdrive is fast enough to make use even a little bit of the voodoo sli. Nothig will be smooth with that. Even a pentium MMX 233 is too slow for this kind of setup. Go for a K6-2 or a pentium 2 AT LEAST for a SLI. As I said, it's not that it would not work, my voodoo 2 12 already performs "meh" with my pentium mmx 200, so I don't want to know how it would perform with a 486/pentium overdrive ^^.
Until the last pentium 2s/early pentium 3s, the cpu was the bottleneck for these cards, and only after that they would become the system's bottleneck.
Yeah I've currently got a Voodoo 1 In the system with a 100mhz overclock and it performs as you said (Meh) or worse with games... Just wanted to see if you could sort of make the game run even if it was terrible and really sli isn't cut out for that machine. Was thinking the top sort of card to put in there would be a matrox 2d card and possibly the Voodoo for Quake.
Best game ever.....
lol that actually runs smoother than my Geforce 4MX
3dfx glide
My second best game of all time, after fallout 2.
Voodoo 2 SLI is a cool idea, but image quality took a bit of a hit compared to a single voodoo 2 at 800x600. You can see the characteristic 'scanlines' of voodoo 2 sli if you look closely in the video. 16 bit dithering didn't look as good in sli mode either. I used to have a lot of trouble syncing my monitor to the output signal in sli and even with it adjusted as best I could, would get a thumping headache after about 30 minutes of using sli mode.
Voodoo 3 was much better in terms of image quality and is a much more viable option for 1024x768 mode.
Thanks for the vid.
For the different image quality characteristics also check my 3dfx image quality comparison: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=36548
On release, I think P2 and Voodoo 2 would have been the highest level experience. Not sure if P3 was even available then.
Can you tell me how do you record videos in very good quality?
I use a Epiphan DVI2PCIe capture card and a self written alignment program.
I have a brief description of the capture setup here: retronn.de/imports/capture_setup.html
My alignment tools page is here: retronn.de/imports/dvi2pcie_align_tool.html
If you still have that PC can you make a gameplay video of BLOOD in 3dfx..?
Nice video mate - i wonder how you've captured Voodoo 2 SLI.
I used a Epiphan DVI2PCIe capture card.
I do not get these framerates with my V3 2000 On a K6-2/400 system w/ 256mb RAM. Is the K6 bottlenecking?
Yes.
@@MichaelHuth Thanks for the reply! Is it simply an issue with AMD or would a similarly clocked Intel chip solve the problem?
@@magreger The problem is that the floating point performance of a K6 is much lower at the same clock compared to a Pentium II. Unreal uses floating point extensivly.
For pushing the V3, I would recommend something similar to a Pentium III 600 MHz or faster (for CPU demanding games).
I got myself a K6-2+ at 600 MHz and can tell you that upgrading from one Voodoo2 to Voodoo2 SLI does not increase the fps at all on the K6. It only allows to run 1024x768 resolution.
For this video here I used a Pentium III 650 MHz coppermine.
@@MichaelHuth Great info! A bit of a bummer though. I centered my retro build around this K6-2 board. It came with an integrated 3D Rage pro chipset which appealed to me at the time. However my Voodoo nostalgia grew strong. I purchased & installed the Voodoo 3 and performance was underwhelming. I started to suspect a bottleneck when Unreal essentially produced similar framerates across all resolutions (low 20's). Now I'm unsure whether to upgrade to a k6-2/500 in an attempt to achieve 30+ fps or abandon this board and use a Slot-1 PIII 500mhz board I have. However, that CPU gets very hot in pure DOS mode which is undesirable. I'm basically trying to build a rig that can play the majority of 90's pc games.
At which resolution you captured the gameplay? Im using on my SLI setup 1024x768 but gotta say its stretching them quite a bit
The resolution was 1024x768.
Michael Huth
what's your average in the intro scene around the castle? should be timedemo1
SpaceMarineITA And yours? And how much memory is on your V2s?
armorgeddon
tested last week, with an awe 32 as soundcard is about 46/47 fps average. With an ESS audiodrive sound card was lower (maybe it did tax the cpu more). My V2s have 12mb x2. I might try to reduce the ram amount and check again, since i got a k6 3+, 256mb might not being fully cacheable from the chipset (depending on cache type, even if the cpu onboard cache should cache it, it still has a performance hit in win98 games)
SpaceMarineITA 46 fps average sounds ok to me, unless the minimum fps was significantly lower than that. If ESS audiodrive was a PCI card, you could be right. It also depends on the sound settings (surround mode, sampling rate, number of effects etc.) that was choosen either by you or automatically by the game. AMD CPUs got a slight boost with Voodoos since 3dfx implemented the use of 3DNow from a certain drivers version onwards, but I guess you are using one of the latest drivers anyway. Cacheable area limit of your chipset should be available on the internet.
were they 8mb or 12mb cards?
This is not the vanilla version, the vanilla one has other sound effects for the weapons and pick up ammo.
It is version 2.26. It is shown at 0:55 when the menu is opened in the upper right corner.
sure do you want it in a privite message or on my video? i think the 3dfx patch was on 3d realms site last time i remembered (thats where i got it for shadow warrior)
The game didn't save velocity, so that cliff at 7:50, you could jump off of it, save just before splatting off of the ground, load the save and gently drop down the last few feet without dying!!!
Thanks for the protip :-)
ill do it sometime this week or next week, my 3dfx pc is at the old pc shop because of the PSU.
@Michael Huth Can you test Unreal on a Pentium 100MHz, Voodoo 2 plz?
While it would start and run Unreal would be a slideshow.
4 average FPS in software mode. 86Box appearently emulates a Voodoo 2 but it appearently isn't slideshow. I,ll just see when i get a Voodoo 2 8mb PCI.
I suppose that they might have optimized to take advantage of the MMX processors. Question is, have you even ran this on a Voodoo 2 on Intel Pentium 100MHz or AMD K5 125MHZ?
The game barely runs well with a Pentium 233 MMX, and back in the pre-GPU days the polygonal geometry and physics were rendered by the CPU. Unreal, or any visually intense game from that era, will run like shit on a P100 even with an awesome 3D accelerator.
i have to say this aged pretty damn well graphics wise. unreal even looks a lot more like the later Quake3 than the - at the time - competing quake2 engine titles. but gaming wise i always prefered half life, by a huge margin. unreal was more like a tech demo.
No worries...
BTW, where did you buy it from and for how much?
I guess you can gimme the link as a PM so to not get in trouble...Thanks!
BTW, didn't the CD include 3dfx patch for BLOOD?
Wow!!!raytracing good!!!
Please do man! That would be damn awesome!
And if you can, can you zip the contents of the CD and upload it somewhere so I can download please? I would love to play the 3dfx version of BLOOD! Thanks!
ill try making a video in a couple of days. im probably gonna try to use a 3dfx voodo 3500 tv for the recording if i can, if i cant ill just use the plain old hand camera.
by the way if you want blood just get the gog version off a torrent or something lol i have to reformat my system because i am installing windows 2000 because the quake 2 anti cheat works on there
This vessel has a strange architecture ...
This needs a remake in Unreal Engine 5.
I feel like the engine is the same as clive barker's undying's engine. Is that true?
+Interactivbg1 Yes, however the build version differ quite a lot. Unreal uses Unreal Engine Build 226 and Clive Barkers Undying uses UT Build 420. See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
Thanks.
is not first unreal engine based on quake engine like modified?
It is Unreal engine that was used for Clive Barker's Undying, but not the version released for the first Unreal in the series, they used the Unreal engine edited for Unreal Tournament that showed more graphics improvements, animations and other features!
Michael Huth You mean build 200, but 226b/f was the most recent one for Unreal, and 227i is a fanpatch.
its on ebay (they also got the prototype card for sale there too but its a bid). i got it suprisingly 200$ in the box
Music...
I was not playing Unreal for the first time, still 1998 is already a while ago...
The video should also focus a bit more on the technical stuff.
f.e. in comparison to the PowerVR PCX2 Unreal footage.
I wouldn't mind if someone else who shows more experience in fps action adventures would play, but community is small here.
If only this game had a Dreamcast port like UT
*5 years later* Same...
I hear it was going to have a PS1 & N64 port but both versions were cancelled.
However, some mad lad made an Unreal Tech Demo on the Sega Saturn: ua-cam.com/video/WpcjkDDLoXM/v-deo.html
Why didn't you record in 60fps?
It is captured in 60 fps. In case youtube does not show check the video link in the description.
@@MichaelHuth you’re right bro. Amazing video capture. Love it
Thnx man! Do it at ur own convenience...and if u can upload a zip of the CD also...Thnx!
From 12:27 - I would fucking shit my pants!
This game was the s@#$ back in the day!!!
08:27 ...enemy went H.A.M. on his ass.
im waiting on my voodoo 5 5500 card to ship now ill make it some time later
When the first 3Dfx Voodoo 1 came out the consoles lost the better graphics war.
Bill Gates said that his graphics division guy "liked" the PlayStation's graphics in 1995.
Although 3D graphics accelerators for PC's were talked about in 1995 none were really worthwhile for the consumer till late in 1996.
It would have been costly to have 2 3Dfx Voodoo 2's in SLI back in 1998 and if someone were to do it they probably would add them to a beefy and costly Pentium II system running at 400 Mhz or 450 Mhz.What was it like $500 alone just for the Diamond Monster 3D II Mega monster bundle (2 Monster 3D II cards).
+m9078jk3 When you think about it, nowadays the GTX980ti is more expensive than two voodoo 2 when they were new
add inflation in to that....
even with inflation, this is still way more expensive for ONE card
However, cpus back then were also way more expensive that what we are getting today.
In 1998, the celeron 300A was at the same price as today's core i5 if you add inflation.
The pentium 2 450 was more expensive than the core i7
My first fps game ever played as a child. Sadly it won't work annymore...
its on steam for like 9.99 i think
You can get it on GOG for $9.99. The GOG version has NO DRM, *unlike* the Steam version.
Then, after installing it, you can update it with the 227 patch you can find at oldunreal.com/oldunrealpatches.html which will give you a Direct3D9 renderer and more advanced features like shadows for characters!
DevilMaster And what?
Shamus Flaherty
And you'll be able to play Unreal with more features than the retail version, without being bothered by that STEAMing pile of shit that wants to control what you can do with your games.
Sorry, it got the rest of your comment got cut off for some reason.
4:3 times !!!!!
Heh, pretty sure you can configure Unreal 1 engine to render widescreen and correct FOV.
unreal on p3 is wrong imo .
i made retro pc with p2 300 and voodoo 2 sli :) just 2 match all hardware from that era ...
but also i made P3 pc with voodoo 5 5500 .... and its is just beast
i got a voodoo 3500 pc with unreal (it came in the voodoo box) and blood. i can made a video
voodoo was great for glide, but totally sucked in opengl games, i remember when q3 came out in 1999 my v3 2000 could barely run it in high settings but tnt2 owned that game...oh well