The Waterkloof 4 | When Rich Boys Murder | Are they really guilty?

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024

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  • @mashadimasha5631
    @mashadimasha5631 3 роки тому +66

    Even if he was a homeless man, he was still someone's son. He was still human. He didn't deserve to die like that.

    • @marie-celestedevilliers4312
      @marie-celestedevilliers4312 9 місяців тому

      I agree! It was someone's family and even if he had no family its so tragic those boys should have been locked up for life

    • @shaunsnyman5107
      @shaunsnyman5107 5 місяців тому

      Farmers also has families, what about them

    • @mashadimasha5631
      @mashadimasha5631 5 місяців тому

      @@shaunsnyman5107 congratulations to them, I guess. I don't know what you want me to say sir.

    • @annettemoolman6504
      @annettemoolman6504 5 місяців тому

      Exactly! Though the murderers has no remorse or feelings! Tragically they saw themselves as 'above the law'!

  • @lanabills4498
    @lanabills4498 3 роки тому +35

    Yep. Incomprehensible. How do four privileged children walk away basically untouched. I think they were responsible. Definitely. Scary. ..thankyou for bringing this case up. I think You give that unknown man a little bit of dignity.. good work.

    • @ktheterkuceder6825
      @ktheterkuceder6825 Рік тому

      They will probably do it again. Especially since they got away with the first time thanks to their privilege.

  • @Busabam1
    @Busabam1 3 роки тому +35

    I think the parents interfered with the pathologists report because it really does not add up. Thank you for covering this case.

  • @lebohangmakallane6567
    @lebohangmakallane6567 2 роки тому +34

    Great video as usual. It's just sad how these young men were literally rewarded for their actions after serving their sentences. I bet you they have learnt nothing and will just be more careful the next time.

    • @nicoleclaire
      @nicoleclaire  2 роки тому +3

      100%. And it’s sad their community believes they did nothing wrong either

  • @jadekotze3026
    @jadekotze3026 2 роки тому +23

    This brought back so many memories from my matric year in 2014, when I did a prepared speech for Afrikaans on the Waterkloof 4. My father (may his soul continue to rest peacefully) actually read about it and he suggested that I use this case for my speech. Our aim was to bring attention and shed light, mainly to privileged people and how they can get away with almost everything and in this instance - also to the brutality and senseless killing of that homeless man, and to this day I truly hope and still continue to pray that one day, my dream of a better South Africa will realize. 😩🤲

  • @rehana_2404
    @rehana_2404 3 роки тому +27

    Drugs. Underage drinking. Entitlement. Privilege.

    • @busin6388
      @busin6388 3 роки тому +8

      And racism.

    • @Vv-fl2rm
      @Vv-fl2rm Рік тому

      None of the above. Racism

    • @user-ff2nk1po8g
      @user-ff2nk1po8g Місяць тому

      ​@@busin6388 yes , as a white person, I really was so mad when I heard the news and details. I'm disgusted with the 4

  • @shadesofpurple7283
    @shadesofpurple7283 3 роки тому +21

    I remember this case in the news but never knew what it was about, great video as always ❤

  • @happynappyable
    @happynappyable 2 роки тому +7

    Ohhh I’m A South African living in US where I went into the rabbit hole of America’s obsession with crime and always thought SA lacked this genre so it’s awesome to see it blossom on social media and to learn of so many cases I forgot about or are unfamiliar with . New subscriber here .

    • @FaizelMoosa-og3yl
      @FaizelMoosa-og3yl 5 місяців тому

      Who cares where you live .no one does.go away

  • @gerhardolivier5293
    @gerhardolivier5293 2 роки тому +9

    The community does not condone murders. Those people you saw at the court,.were their friends.

  • @muofhemulaudzi366
    @muofhemulaudzi366 3 роки тому +60

    This just reminds me how the privileged in South Africa will never be seen as equal in the eyes of justice. No remorse, and whats worse is that the community seems to be by their side

    • @shadesofpurple7283
      @shadesofpurple7283 3 роки тому +7

      I definitely think the fact that the parents were doctors and lawyers influenced the sentencing

    • @AE-jk6er
      @AE-jk6er 10 місяців тому +2

      Ahw well they still got a sentenced so justice was served

    • @geraldineminnie2635
      @geraldineminnie2635 5 місяців тому +1

      I certainly don’t side with them

    • @samuelbhagothiparsad3882
      @samuelbhagothiparsad3882 4 місяці тому

      If that were true how do you explain the father who made his son speak truth.

  • @happynappyable
    @happynappyable 2 роки тому +9

    Too much hair gel between the four .Waterkloof Hoerskool has aviation as extra- curriculum just to idea of the affluence .

  • @christinedupreez422
    @christinedupreez422 8 місяців тому +3

    Unbelieveble!!! Rewarding bad bahaviour. Sicking...luckily karma has a way of levelling the play field. Be careful little boys - your day is coming.

  • @lentheron8888
    @lentheron8888 3 роки тому +19

    Absolutely hideous crime, committed by the very lowest of human beings. The parents must have been pretty rotten to have raised such revolting human beings. They should have been left to rot in jail until the end of time. Makes me want to believe that there is a hell!!

    • @shaunsnyman5107
      @shaunsnyman5107 5 місяців тому +1

      Farm murders are far worse

    • @bee-sting
      @bee-sting 13 днів тому

      ​@@shaunsnyman5107yeah, like that Van Breda case? Sheesh😢

  • @thinadlamini4671
    @thinadlamini4671 5 місяців тому +2

    😪... My heart breaks for the unidentified man's family.

  • @sonjamuller399
    @sonjamuller399 3 роки тому +8

    It was said the 4 was also lovers

  • @seclusionworks7547
    @seclusionworks7547 2 роки тому +9

    A bad case of affluenza. The boys should have been sentenced to much heavier sentences for this crime.

    • @user-ff2nk1po8g
      @user-ff2nk1po8g Місяць тому

      they were 16 years old, so they should have received a live sentence without any parole at the very least

  • @djdetectdis27
    @djdetectdis27 3 роки тому +7

    Please keep up the channel! I love it already

  • @techacome4485
    @techacome4485 3 роки тому +11

    What race was the man that got killed?

    • @makhosinidube7950
      @makhosinidube7950 3 роки тому +5

      Black

    • @makhosinidube7950
      @makhosinidube7950 3 роки тому +4

      @@smoothkay2724 yeah I thought as much.

    • @lungileringani2693
      @lungileringani2693 2 роки тому +6

      I was wondering as well,wonder why Nicole refrained from mentioning his race ,I mean that is actually also very important in this case .

    • @dean759
      @dean759 21 день тому

      Does it matter what race the victim was? Black white colored doesn't matter we're all human

  • @peterbellingan5127
    @peterbellingan5127 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Nicole, just discovered your channel. Well done - greetings from Zim.

  • @susannaude8514
    @susannaude8514 Рік тому +2

    The fact that some lives matter more than others is all that is wrong with this world, said Dr. William Farmer.

  • @bosslady5464
    @bosslady5464 3 роки тому +17

    Im curious to know the victim's race...

    • @neozamokoto8895
      @neozamokoto8895 3 роки тому +11

      I remember this story well. He was black and this case was highly reported as a race crime.

    • @lungileringani2693
      @lungileringani2693 2 роки тому +2

      @@neozamokoto8895 thanks ,I have been wondering as well . Wow 💔

  • @thokongwenya711
    @thokongwenya711 5 місяців тому +1

    " flexing their ...muscles...do you know Nas Botha...😢😂

  • @gugugumede3199
    @gugugumede3199 2 роки тому +8

    This is so damn disgusting!! Their day is coming. Mxm!

    • @zamambhele242
      @zamambhele242 Рік тому +3

      Yes! And this will catch up with them through their kids

    • @Lukha21
      @Lukha21 5 місяців тому

      Karma is a bitch. What goes around,comes around. And lastly.....somehow shreds of attonement do not equal dignity. You can only keep one face to the masses and one to yourself,but on way or another you'll lose yourself. The first realization of not understanding this pitiful story ,is the width and depth of sadness that was left behind
      So.....guys
      20 years from now,are you still gonna live dangerously,swaggering your strut,or are you going to realise that you need to atone
      Hom long can guilt live with you,before it devoures you?
      If you in many years come t a personal point of atonement,this chat must remind you. Go for some re evaluation on your facial expressions.That is how public eye judge it

  • @pennythompson7908
    @pennythompson7908 3 роки тому +3

    very interesting story. Saw it on the news, but did not know what it was about.

  • @CatO52
    @CatO52 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for your great channel and content.

  • @happynappyable
    @happynappyable 2 роки тому +3

    Suggestions; could you do a story on the four recently kidnapped kids . Also on the brother who found his abducted sis on fb suggestion- his sister was abducted 20 years ago and on the girl who dated the guy in Soweto and found a human hand in his freezer pls . Separately there’s been some womb snatching stories in the US where perpetrators cut out a baby from mommy’s stomach - have we had similar cases in South Africa ever - are you aware cause to me it shows how dark and evil some women can be too .

  • @marie-celestedevilliers4312
    @marie-celestedevilliers4312 9 місяців тому

    The Waterkloof four sentence was rediculous light! It really touched my heart about the two guys they attacked and left them to die.so terrible

  • @santakriel9189
    @santakriel9189 3 роки тому +9

    Disgusting human beings
    Arrogance, the personality trait i hate most. When a person had a bad childhood, one can maybe understand
    Gert... guess what... you'll never be a rugby player😂😂😂

    • @edmundwessels2072
      @edmundwessels2072 2 роки тому +6

      This happens when one thinks that he is superior to another human being.

  • @roswinjosephs743
    @roswinjosephs743 3 роки тому +5

    Can you give us something on the Brett Golding murder

  • @mimibee409
    @mimibee409 2 роки тому +3

    Beyond evil these 4. Savagery and barbarity

  • @intellifly747
    @intellifly747 4 місяці тому +1

    Christoff's father the Headmaster also stole school funds and was fired

  • @pridesibeko1906
    @pridesibeko1906 3 роки тому +7

    Yhooooo is this true?😯
    I'm shocked

  • @contrarian717
    @contrarian717 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not defending them. But puzzled how the judge simply ignored the fact that the autopsy results differed substantially from what was testified in court.

  • @busin6388
    @busin6388 3 роки тому +11

    How did you omit to mention that the unknown and unidentified victim was black?

    • @nicosmit8087
      @nicosmit8087 2 роки тому +8

      It shouldn't matter what race. A life is a life.

    • @lebohangmakallane6567
      @lebohangmakallane6567 2 роки тому +1

      @@nicosmit8087 She usually does though.

    • @lungileringani2693
      @lungileringani2693 2 роки тому

      Right?

    • @lungileringani2693
      @lungileringani2693 2 роки тому +4

      @@nicosmit8087 in this case in does matter with the racism that is still so common in this country ,it was clearly a race crime💔

    • @Deckard717
      @Deckard717 2 роки тому +1

      @@lungileringani2693 Correct..amongst all races.

  • @lindizzlelappies
    @lindizzlelappies 4 місяці тому +1

    The arrogance is psychopathic!!! Privilege…

  • @ntuthukoqwabe1320
    @ntuthukoqwabe1320 Місяць тому

    Disgusting even as I listen to this years later😢

  • @brendathessner8768
    @brendathessner8768 2 роки тому +5

    This case make me so angry. All the lies and cover ups. They should have got life.

  • @shaunsnyman5107
    @shaunsnyman5107 5 місяців тому +3

    So what about all the farm murders

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy 5 місяців тому

      Are those hate crimes.?

    • @shaunsnyman5107
      @shaunsnyman5107 5 місяців тому +1

      @johnsmith-ht3sy oh yes it is go do your research

    • @faraimaraidza1645
      @faraimaraidza1645 29 днів тому

      What about them ?

    • @dean759
      @dean759 21 день тому

      ​@@johnsmith-ht3sy you're delusional if you think farm murders aren't here crimes.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy 21 день тому

      @@dean759 I know they are hate crimes, thats why I posed a question to get dumbos to think. " Oh yeh what about farm murders"

  • @Mathilda5xp
    @Mathilda5xp 2 роки тому +3

    Their day of reckoning is near. Their parents will also suffer the same fate when God undertakes. Imagine murdering someone for fun because he had a black skin! I am so angry that they were not given a life sentence! Shame on the judge!

    • @Vv-fl2rm
      @Vv-fl2rm Рік тому

      😂 the same God who did nothing during, slaver, colonisation, apartheid etc. you blacks are truly naive

  • @denisel265
    @denisel265 6 місяців тому +2

    May that poor soul rest in peace. The 4 Thugs will face God one day.

  • @nomondes
    @nomondes 2 роки тому +3

    It goes to show how the gap between the poor and the rich.

  • @glasstumble1677
    @glasstumble1677 2 роки тому +4

    2 of them were back in jail in 2013. Idk if they got out.

  • @bradleypetsch7079
    @bradleypetsch7079 2 місяці тому

    Hi Nicole, you are an amazing story teller🔥

  • @katlehosello1192
    @katlehosello1192 6 місяців тому

    Been bingeing all day on these videos… have you done Van Breda case?

  • @thinabantu1433
    @thinabantu1433 3 роки тому +6

    FINALLY DECIDED TO SUBCRIBE.....YOU GOOD

  • @seakgatladi3032
    @seakgatladi3032 3 роки тому +4

    Great video 🔥

  • @mphorasivhaga5953
    @mphorasivhaga5953 Рік тому +4

    I once saw white kids at Alberton around 1am this 5 white kids saw 2 black kids and 1 girl and the white kids they got of the car and ran to this black guys and they beat them for no reason

  • @MrMarvinstraight
    @MrMarvinstraight 3 роки тому +4

    I’m here

  • @chalandristruwig7591
    @chalandristruwig7591 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Nicole can you do some cases of fram attack

  • @JanetMurray-l8e
    @JanetMurray-l8e 4 дні тому

    Jones Larry Martinez Gary Lee Barbara

  • @hoza1752
    @hoza1752 2 місяці тому

    I just found out about your Chanel now

  • @natashadelange4244
    @natashadelange4244 5 місяців тому

    Spoiled brats and discussting... like gangsters running around and killing innocent people. They got away with murder. 😢😢😢😢

  • @sscarrful
    @sscarrful Місяць тому

    They should still be in prison. A life for a life.

  • @marleneflourentzou680
    @marleneflourentzou680 2 роки тому +2

    Nicole great content but you should have mentioned the race
    If the victim was Black it was obviously a hate crime
    These boys are monsters and their parents' behaviour is shocking
    A murderer is a murderer is a murderer

    • @aaronsailor827
      @aaronsailor827 2 роки тому

      You can tell by the names. Most Black SA have tribal names. Whereas most White SA have Dutch or English names. Same with the the Coloureds they mostly have Dutch names as well.

    • @gesie5475
      @gesie5475 8 місяців тому

      Why? The South African government refuses to label the torture and murder of farmers as a hate crime. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I truely believe society keeps racism alive with their obsession with race. All people are equal. There is just good and bad people.

  • @santieloubser7541
    @santieloubser7541 4 місяці тому

    Heartbreaking

  • @beaulahlawrence491
    @beaulahlawrence491 5 місяців тому

    I'm a firm believer in justice, whoever took. This man's live from him, will face. The God I know of justice. No one will get away from. Whatever we have done on. This earth, we can run from man. But we cannot run from. God, He sees&knows. The heart&mind of mankind

  • @Vv-fl2rm
    @Vv-fl2rm Рік тому +2

    Why are they still alive?

  • @Fvtarchitecture
    @Fvtarchitecture Рік тому +1

    Learners at 16? Oh

  • @imtroublesome
    @imtroublesome 3 роки тому +3

    Nicole 🙌❤

  • @verjanhamilton6287
    @verjanhamilton6287 Рік тому

    Being in a mob should get them more time, gutless creeps.

  • @tmanytt
    @tmanytt Рік тому +1

    Love how you tell stories

  • @ArmandvanWyk-ep1cn
    @ArmandvanWyk-ep1cn Рік тому

    Excellent

  • @JohanVreugdenburg-nq5mp
    @JohanVreugdenburg-nq5mp Рік тому +1

    Can you do one about te boeremag pleas

  • @ingridraikes9082
    @ingridraikes9082 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely disgraceful!
    Horrific! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

  • @geraldineminnie2635
    @geraldineminnie2635 5 місяців тому

    Disgusting behaviour from entitled spoiled brats😡

  • @janharm6787
    @janharm6787 4 місяці тому

    This country s got no justice if it were america they would sit in jail or got sentence to death

  • @jayejosias2348
    @jayejosias2348 10 місяців тому

    extradited* not expedited

  • @peeps977
    @peeps977 6 місяців тому

    Learners license for a motor vehicle is 17 and motorbike 125cc is 16

  • @rethadoubell5310
    @rethadoubell5310 Рік тому +1

    Yes they are guilty and was arrogant...

  • @willemdebeer-cn4xx
    @willemdebeer-cn4xx Рік тому +1

    You give the same fact (he was homeless) 7 times. And you're opinion is not that of someone that knows law. But based on emotional ego.

  • @Jsteward1979
    @Jsteward1979 Рік тому +1

    It was a drug dealer that was killed

  • @thunderstorm6616
    @thunderstorm6616 Рік тому +1

    They should have still been sitting in jail that was evil what they done