It’d be nice to see how it performs with large sized engineering prints with ASA or even PPS-CF. Also, how well it isolates VOCs and particles from the outside.
Totally agree! What has impressed me most with the Plus4 is the dimensional accuracy, high precision, and lack of VFA. I was able to do print in place bearings all the way down to 0.02mm clearance and have them come off the build plate not fused. I even did 0.01mm and with a little work breaking apart they spun. Also seriously on the VFA. Find a print with a lot of flat facets like a low poly animal and print it from the same filament on the Plus4 and any Bambu and compare the artifacts. The Plus4 has possibly the least I have seen from any stock printer. Maybe some Prusamachines and the Bambu Lab A1 and A1 Mini come close. This machine had teething issues, but it is seriously solid and nothing on the market matches the capability for the money. It handles any consumer filament you throw at it and people on the Disk-chord have demonstrated that many times over. Most of the small issues it had at launch are well ironed out. The funniest part about people thinking it is a Bambu Lab clone or that Qidi was a cheap low quality brand is that Qidi was making enclosed, core XY, full metal frame, corner supported bed, high temperature printers for years before Bambu Lab existed. Large size and heated chamber not new for them either. Nice overview! That Halo map print is super impressive. I'm hoping the Max4 or whatever it's called will be near perfect at launch. I hope in the next video you will dig in deep on the quality as the layer stacking and clean surfaces from this printer are fantastic.
Excellent comment here. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m stoked about this machine and look forward to diving a little deeper in the next video
If you do buy this machine make sure you check for the new chamber heater relay. I just bought one from Qidi and got one with the old board and had to email them and request the new board.
Congrats on getting your first sample review printer a truly big milestone for your channel. You did an excellent job on this review and I loved your unboxing and review model selection. One of my co-workers got the Qidi Plus4 and loves it. I can't see what you do with it next.
I'm happy with the QIDI printers. I have the max 3 and the Q1 pro. Customer service is great but they need to have better instructions for replacement parts, upgrades and repairs. They tend to use a lot of videos not clearly showing or explaining things. I have reminded them we are not all engineers we just want to print. Lol. Explain to them if you run into this and customer service will email you easy to follow instructions. They always get back to you and have a great client tracking system for issues. Hope this helps anyone considering. Cheers!
New to 3d printing and waiting on my first a Bambu Labs PS1, but already thinking of my future and been looking for a larger format bed. Your video has put this one on my list for the future.
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to your video seeing how it performs with the more technical filaments. I'm happy with my four A1s, but want a printer I can dedicate to things like nylon, polycarbonate and ASA. The new bambu coming out will likely be a contender but I'd rather not have to resort to selling feet pics online to afford one soooooo.....
The overhangs are impressive on the Hang em High map print. It would have been nice to see it printed in a filament with more texture and perhaps showing how the printer is able to pause, swap filament and purge. (I'm somewhat averse to shiny silk.) Lastly, the redundancy of instructions from the booklet, on-screen and rear panel are appreciated. ✌️
I totally get the apprehension with silks. They show every single little defect! Thats a nice thing about the matte filaments for sure. Covering all of my secret mistakes
Well I reached out to them to see if we could work something out so here’s to hoping. My first printer was a Flashforge so it would be cool to jump back in years later to see how far they’ve come
I've got 6 of these printers, and they have been a nightmare. After working out the bugs, like, ya know, the thing melting and almost catching fire.. Yeah, now they work good. I was actually the one who got Qidi to issue a recall on these machines. They tried to sweep it under the rug. Not having it. Anyway, don't turn into a shill for a Chinese company that does not give a shit if your house burns down. Their behavior early on over this issue was absolutely reprehensible. I have ripped apart these printers to fix the SSR overheating, the grub screws falling out of the toolhead, the lower bearing on the toolhead coming loose, the loud and inadequate motherboard fan, and the wifi dongle. Honorable mentions to the huge spaghetti failures that ruined part cooling fans and the fact they just freeze up sometimes. I put hundreds more into my machines but don't fret, Qidi offered me $50 for my days of labor. They make dangerous products, they send you parts to fix their new machine and everyone cheers how great they are. FML. After spending $5k I feel... Stuck with them. I'm not even liking this video and it's not even your fault, sorry. Unlike. Also, you're gonna want to print the larger spool holder. The file is on the machine. I had a spool fall off on a print when I had the glass top off. The larger spool holder slips over the smaller one and locks on. Try out PCTG filament. "Polycyclohexylenedimethylene Terephthalate Glycol" Yeah, you like that?
Wow! Lots going on there. It sucks that you’ve had the worst experience with these suckers. I can only speak to my experience of course but this is information that everyone needs access to as well so I appreciate you sharing your experience. It’s important to paint the whole picture by drawing from one another like this
Website says 370 for the hotend... 🤔 Also says that it's compatible with the QIDI box for multi color. I have no need for it, but I kinda want it. Great review! Thanks
That is a huge selling point for sure. The fact that this machine is fully enclosed and can print that hot with hardened components means it’s totally ready for the high demand engineering stuff. But even with just printing PLA and similar, I’m impressed with the value
Correct, but it handles all of those filaments fine. Siraya Tech 85A TPU prints work perfectly at high flow rates on mine. I just have to feed direct into the extruder rather than through the reverse Bowden.
Camera? compared P1S, is my biggest negative in my opinion on the P1S - Bambu has not figured out they need to support mods and upgrading, if they had a supported camera upgrade would have already bought one.
App, slicer, presets, inexpensive spare parts, stellar customer service... These things matter to me more than print volume and speed. Please make another video after logging 2000+ hours.
Qidi is known for having close to if not the best customer service in the consumer 3D printing space. They had a rough launch with this one, but it's ironed out now. They have sent out more free replacement parts with no questions asked than any company I've ever seen. Parts are available at good prices. You can use Qidi Studio which is a fork of Bambu Studio or just use Orca Slicer. Their presets are solid.
$800 is absolutely not cheap. But if you are looking for a machine that prints hot with hardened components, you can look at the X1C for $1200 or try this out for $800. Except this prints hotter and has a larger build volume. Its just a good value if it suits your needs!
Gotta preface. It was free so that’s a bias straight off the bat. Luckily the thing was good. Otherwise this video would have gone a completely different way..
@@KeoPrints Not want to argue but in europe thats the price with the AMS about 810 euro vs 849 euro. Still i do agree given its release date its a good price but for many they do need to also proof/ship a ams like device.
That’s true. This can’t be measured by the promise of multicolor capabilities later down the line. As it stands right now, I am impressed with the specs for the price even without multicolor
@KeoPrints Yeah well what is great is that finally brands are catching up to bambulab but its been a few years now since the basic xy release they did. It will great to see the push this gives to them to make a better one and get a real innovation battle going and up the avg level of printing so finally what we print can become the thing not how we print.
For the specs it’s cheap. This is X1C specs with a bigger build volume for hundreds less. Objectively 800 dollars is a lot of money. Especially when I don’t have any money…
It’s a tough balance. I’ve been accused of doing the clickbait thing so I felt like transparency right on the front end might be good. Always working on improving something
Achievement unlocked. Receiving your first free review product must feel like validation for content creators. This is the first video I've watched from this channel and don't knock them for introducing it this way. It also tips me off that the rest of their video catalog is about printers they've bought and likely have an unbiased opinion. ✌️
What about the negatives. Test the heated chamber and the screws coming loose on the print head. I really want to buy this machine but I need to know that Qidi has really fixed the issues not just put a band aid on it. I wish somebody would really put it through it’s paces with the high temps.
@erich1159 These were issues from when the printer first launch. They are well ironed out now. Nobody has had a loose tool head in quite some time that I know of and the heated chamber issue is resolved. There are many people with hundreds and thousands of hours on the Plus4 already.
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It’d be nice to see how it performs with large sized engineering prints with ASA or even PPS-CF. Also, how well it isolates VOCs and particles from the outside.
Totally agree! What has impressed me most with the Plus4 is the dimensional accuracy, high precision, and lack of VFA. I was able to do print in place bearings all the way down to 0.02mm clearance and have them come off the build plate not fused. I even did 0.01mm and with a little work breaking apart they spun.
Also seriously on the VFA. Find a print with a lot of flat facets like a low poly animal and print it from the same filament on the Plus4 and any Bambu and compare the artifacts. The Plus4 has possibly the least I have seen from any stock printer. Maybe some Prusamachines and the Bambu Lab A1 and A1 Mini come close.
This machine had teething issues, but it is seriously solid and nothing on the market matches the capability for the money. It handles any consumer filament you throw at it and people on the Disk-chord have demonstrated that many times over. Most of the small issues it had at launch are well ironed out.
The funniest part about people thinking it is a Bambu Lab clone or that Qidi was a cheap low quality brand is that Qidi was making enclosed, core XY, full metal frame, corner supported bed, high temperature printers for years before Bambu Lab existed. Large size and heated chamber not new for them either.
Nice overview! That Halo map print is super impressive. I'm hoping the Max4 or whatever it's called will be near perfect at launch. I hope in the next video you will dig in deep on the quality as the layer stacking and clean surfaces from this printer are fantastic.
Excellent comment here. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m stoked about this machine and look forward to diving a little deeper in the next video
LET'S GOOOO! Thank you for doing this!
Happy you liked it
If you do buy this machine make sure you check for the new chamber heater relay. I just bought one from Qidi and got one with the old board and had to email them and request the new board.
Yes good point. Check out the @ModBotArmy video in the description for specifics. Be careful friends
Congrats on getting your first sample review printer a truly big milestone for your channel. You did an excellent job on this review and I loved your unboxing and review model selection. One of my co-workers got the Qidi Plus4 and loves it. I can't see what you do with it next.
I'm astounded by the print quality, reliability and consistency of my Qidi plus 4.
Thanks for this. I'm seriously considering a Qidi printer as a companion to my A1, and you've shown stuff I hadn't yet seen about these so far.
That’s great! I’m hoping more people can see the value because I was surprised
I'm happy with the QIDI printers. I have the max 3 and the Q1 pro. Customer service is great but they need to have better instructions for replacement parts, upgrades and repairs.
They tend to use a lot of videos not clearly showing or explaining things. I have reminded them we are not all engineers we just want to print. Lol. Explain to them if you run into this and customer service will email you easy to follow instructions. They always get back to you and have a great client tracking system for issues. Hope this helps anyone considering. Cheers!
This is good to hear because often the opposite seems to be true
I love the dummy-proofing! When I unboxed my x1c, i forgot to unscrew one screw and it made a horrendous sound when I turned the machine on.
New to 3d printing and waiting on my first a Bambu Labs PS1, but already thinking of my future and been looking for a larger format bed. Your video has put this one on my list for the future.
Glad to hear it. I am hoping Bambu comes out with their large format machine sooner than later but this has been a good runner for the in between
@ Excellent way to look at it.
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to your video seeing how it performs with the more technical filaments. I'm happy with my four A1s, but want a printer I can dedicate to things like nylon, polycarbonate and ASA. The new bambu coming out will likely be a contender but I'd rather not have to resort to selling feet pics online to afford one soooooo.....
That’s for sure! It’s gonna be a painful purchase no doubt but having this one as an option is super cool! Thanks for hanging around
Looks like a great printer! Thanks for excellent video!
Thanks for hanging around friend!
The overhangs are impressive on the Hang em High map print. It would have been nice to see it printed in a filament with more texture and perhaps showing how the printer is able to pause, swap filament and purge. (I'm somewhat averse to shiny silk.)
Lastly, the redundancy of instructions from the booklet, on-screen and rear panel are appreciated. ✌️
I totally get the apprehension with silks. They show every single little defect! Thats a nice thing about the matte filaments for sure. Covering all of my secret mistakes
You guys check out the Flashforge Adventure 5M, or 5X when it releases. I think you'd also be very surprised with it, and it's often less than $250
Well I reached out to them to see if we could work something out so here’s to hoping. My first printer was a Flashforge so it would be cool to jump back in years later to see how far they’ve come
I've got 6 of these printers, and they have been a nightmare. After working out the bugs, like, ya know, the thing melting and almost catching fire.. Yeah, now they work good. I was actually the one who got Qidi to issue a recall on these machines. They tried to sweep it under the rug. Not having it. Anyway, don't turn into a shill for a Chinese company that does not give a shit if your house burns down. Their behavior early on over this issue was absolutely reprehensible. I have ripped apart these printers to fix the SSR overheating, the grub screws falling out of the toolhead, the lower bearing on the toolhead coming loose, the loud and inadequate motherboard fan, and the wifi dongle. Honorable mentions to the huge spaghetti failures that ruined part cooling fans and the fact they just freeze up sometimes. I put hundreds more into my machines but don't fret, Qidi offered me $50 for my days of labor. They make dangerous products, they send you parts to fix their new machine and everyone cheers how great they are. FML. After spending $5k I feel... Stuck with them. I'm not even liking this video and it's not even your fault, sorry. Unlike. Also, you're gonna want to print the larger spool holder. The file is on the machine. I had a spool fall off on a print when I had the glass top off. The larger spool holder slips over the smaller one and locks on. Try out PCTG filament. "Polycyclohexylenedimethylene Terephthalate Glycol" Yeah, you like that?
Wow! Lots going on there. It sucks that you’ve had the worst experience with these suckers. I can only speak to my experience of course but this is information that everyone needs access to as well so I appreciate you sharing your experience. It’s important to paint the whole picture by drawing from one another like this
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Qidi plus 4 is one I wouldn't mind getting either.
Website says 370 for the hotend... 🤔 Also says that it's compatible with the QIDI box for multi color. I have no need for it, but I kinda want it. Great review! Thanks
“I have no need for it but I kinda want it” is the very grave that I will ultimately rest in if I had to guess. I completely understand that sentiment
I would get one, but since i have q1 pro I'll just wait for their next IDEX
IDEX would be sick!
So I'm gathering that the big strength of this is for specially engineering filaments rather than your standard pla, TPU, nylon, etc.
That is a huge selling point for sure. The fact that this machine is fully enclosed and can print that hot with hardened components means it’s totally ready for the high demand engineering stuff. But even with just printing PLA and similar, I’m impressed with the value
Correct, but it handles all of those filaments fine. Siraya Tech 85A TPU prints work perfectly at high flow rates on mine. I just have to feed direct into the extruder rather than through the reverse Bowden.
Camera? compared P1S, is my biggest negative in my opinion on the P1S - Bambu has not figured out they need to support mods and upgrading, if they had a supported camera upgrade would have already bought one.
You’ve got that right. That camera is worthless
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Beartooth dude. Love caleb shomo. Been following him since Attack Attack! So amazing
App, slicer, presets, inexpensive spare parts, stellar customer service... These things matter to me more than print volume and speed. Please make another video after logging 2000+ hours.
These are good points! Perhaps a 6 month review will be in order
Qidi is known for having close to if not the best customer service in the consumer 3D printing space. They had a rough launch with this one, but it's ironed out now. They have sent out more free replacement parts with no questions asked than any company I've ever seen. Parts are available at good prices. You can use Qidi Studio which is a fork of Bambu Studio or just use Orca Slicer. Their presets are solid.
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Dude probably thought it was banana flavored
$800 is not cheap...
For what you get, yes it is.
$800 is absolutely not cheap. But if you are looking for a machine that prints hot with hardened components, you can look at the X1C for $1200 or try this out for $800. Except this prints hotter and has a larger build volume. Its just a good value if it suits your needs!
must prop lid open for petg.
Fair point. I left the top glass off for the PLA and PETG prints
"I'll try to remain unbiased..." Yea, that would be a good thing.
Gotta preface. It was free so that’s a bias straight off the bat. Luckily the thing was good. Otherwise this video would have gone a completely different way..
Yea
Only $800?
X1C performance for P1S pricing but with a bigger build volume
@@KeoPrints Not want to argue but in europe thats the price with the AMS about 810 euro vs 849 euro. Still i do agree given its release date its a good price but for many they do need to also proof/ship a ams like device.
That’s true. This can’t be measured by the promise of multicolor capabilities later down the line. As it stands right now, I am impressed with the specs for the price even without multicolor
@@KeoPrints If you think about it, it's more akin to the X1E, just without the auto tuning.
@KeoPrints Yeah well what is great is that finally brands are catching up to bambulab but its been a few years now since the basic xy release they did. It will great to see the push this gives to them to make a better one and get a real innovation battle going and up the avg level of printing so finally what we print can become the thing not how we print.
in whose world is 800 cheap
For the specs it’s cheap. This is X1C specs with a bigger build volume for hundreds less. Objectively 800 dollars is a lot of money. Especially when I don’t have any money…
It's all relative. Size, features, quality. It's not cheap compared to an A1 Mini, but it is far more capable. What do you need from your printer?
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Might want to start your videos differently. Your opening screams sellout (regardless of whether you did or not).
It’s a tough balance. I’ve been accused of doing the clickbait thing so I felt like transparency right on the front end might be good. Always working on improving something
Achievement unlocked. Receiving your first free review product must feel like validation for content creators. This is the first video I've watched from this channel and don't knock them for introducing it this way. It also tips me off that the rest of their video catalog is about printers they've bought and likely have an unbiased opinion. ✌️
What about the negatives. Test the heated chamber and the screws coming loose on the print head. I really want to buy this machine but I need to know that Qidi has really fixed the issues not just put a band aid on it. I wish somebody would really put it through it’s paces with the high temps.
Would you rather he not disclose the relationship? Can never make everyone happy.
@erich1159 These were issues from when the printer first launch. They are well ironed out now. Nobody has had a loose tool head in quite some time that I know of and the heated chamber issue is resolved. There are many people with hundreds and thousands of hours on the Plus4 already.