There are Pigeons in Australia in the city & they are smart & creative enough (they apparently do this in MANY places, recently discovered) One pigeon out of a group at a Human Drinking Fountail will stand on the trigger to let the other pigeons & birds drink & bath, then another Pigeon will take over to let others drink & bath! There are also recently discovered birds that will drop seeds & nuts on road crossing so that card run them over & break them open so they can eat them! PROVING 110% that Humans & certainly not in the least bit special, in fact anyone with a brain & compassion knows humans are the dumbest. most evil & worst things EVER.
You’re very right about that. I watched the same thing in a park by my house & I looked around like “did anyone else see this shit?” I love birds & i always have. They will always be some of my favorite animals. They are so intelligent.
Doesn't the example at 2:42 pertain to changes in developmental stages as opposed to conditioning? I thought it would have more to do with increasing awareness of object properties and tracking than some sort of reinforcer?
I'm a little confused as to what the first pigeon is being conditioned for. Like what is the process going on with him? What are they trying to reinforce to the pigeon? And what is the desired behavior they are looking for?
+Cody Moss If you mean the pigeon at 0:20... It wasn't being conditioned yet. At 1:07: whenever the pigeon turns to its left, it gets food. They're probably trying to condition a complete turn.
I know it's been 3 years since you asked this but there's an article that Skinner published named 'Superstition in Pigeons'. There they chose a randomn pattern of when to give the pigeons food. Then they watched how the birds developed some sort of individual ritual (like turning in circles). They concluded that the birds ended up thinking that when ever they did their movement it would lead to them getting food. So without the researchers doing anything they developed some sort of self conditioned ritual to get food out.
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@@football4fun0312 exactly... Looks like humans with religion
ClaraSaysRawr, It would seem to me that you're comparing a more experienced organism with a less experienced organism. Most two year olds have been conditioned to respond because of the conditioning taking place when they were 12 months old.
would the pigeons go home to an abuser? do they like pain and abuse or food and safe living conditions? if you put the pigeon in a "mansion" and tortured it, do you think it would fly back or would it go into its natural habitat? for just seed? could you condition the pigeon to have a Mercedes to sit in when it's happy flying free? Maybe you shpuld TORTURE ONE AND FORCE IT ON IT???? SO IT CAN "HAVE". IT MIGHT BE HAPPY THAT WAY. OINK, OINK.
First few minutes of this video where it cuts between the children and the pigeon feel like some sort of psychological horror film
Videgames implement Skinner's techniques very well.
I was thinking the same thing watching this. I heard about this experiment on the History Channel & I just had to watch it. This is amazing to see.
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First he thinks that if he turnes his body from the feeder he get the food ahahah.
What's up with this ego and conscious bullshit?
Enough with this mentalistic talks!!
This is behavior analysis, and it is science!
its a wonderful god given gift to the world is the b.f. skinner
work work, recieve money, work work, recieve money, work work recieve money.
Are you calling me a pigeon lol
Behavior analysis is great, but whoever edited this video did a terrible job.
There are Pigeons in Australia in the city & they are smart & creative enough (they apparently do this in MANY places, recently discovered) One pigeon out of a group at a Human Drinking Fountail will stand on the trigger to let the other pigeons & birds drink & bath, then another Pigeon will take over to let others drink & bath! There are also recently discovered birds that will drop seeds & nuts on road crossing so that card run them over & break them open so they can eat them! PROVING 110% that Humans & certainly not in the least bit special, in fact anyone with a brain & compassion knows humans are the dumbest. most evil & worst things EVER.
Boy you must've not heard what cuckoo birds are up to then
You’re very right about that. I watched the same thing in a park by my house & I looked around like “did anyone else see this shit?” I love birds & i always have. They will always be some of my favorite animals. They are so intelligent.
You had me until the end
Doesn't the example at 2:42 pertain to changes in developmental stages as opposed to conditioning? I thought it would have more to do with increasing awareness of object properties and tracking than some sort of reinforcer?
I didn't rule it out, hence the question mark. It's called a question.
Very Interesting Experiment !!
Skinner looks like a pigeon
How did it go? And what do you mean autoshape?
This is during corona time :( people still learn this. So woohoo for your research
skinner dude be like 90% forehead
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I'm a little confused as to what the first pigeon is being conditioned for. Like what is the process going on with him? What are they trying to reinforce to the pigeon? And what is the desired behavior they are looking for?
Like they don't explain what they are trying to accomplish with that pigeon so I'm just sort of confused
+Cody Moss If you mean the pigeon at 0:20... It wasn't being conditioned yet. At 1:07: whenever the pigeon turns to its left, it gets food. They're probably trying to condition a complete turn.
I know it's been 3 years since you asked this but there's an article that Skinner published named 'Superstition in Pigeons'. There they chose a randomn pattern of when to give the pigeons food. Then they watched how the birds developed some sort of individual ritual (like turning in circles). They concluded that the birds ended up thinking that when ever they did their movement it would lead to them getting food. So without the researchers doing anything they developed some sort of self conditioned ritual to get food out.
@@football4fun0312 exactly... Looks like humans with religion
@ yep, and that's so sad
i saw this in psychology!
Te pigeon study is not conditioning, the bird is constantly going to the feeder trying to eat reguardless of a stimulus.
very rare
Burhuss Fredrich Skinner "Behaviorism"
ClaraSaysRawr, It would seem to me that you're comparing a more experienced organism with a less experienced organism. Most two year olds have been conditioned to respond because of the conditioning taking place when they were 12 months old.
@EternalSearcher and be filmed by jerks
gracias
just great !
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Good videooooo
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2023 haha my number bigger
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Came to see stuff about interesting birds. Instead spammed my right arrow key for 80% of the video...
too much info to handle?
Video games.
Narrator called a child "it." Gross.
um, kids are in masks, what do you expect?
would the pigeons go home to an abuser? do they like pain and abuse or food and safe living conditions? if you put the pigeon in a "mansion" and tortured it, do you think it would fly back or would it go into its natural habitat? for just seed? could you condition the pigeon to have a Mercedes to sit in when it's happy flying free? Maybe you shpuld TORTURE ONE AND FORCE IT ON IT???? SO IT CAN "HAVE". IT MIGHT BE HAPPY THAT WAY. OINK, OINK.
Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about