Andy Goode weighs in on the Mike Ford and Sam Burgess saga
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Goodey doesn't hold back on this week's pod as he discusses his experiences with current Leicester attack coach Mike Ford.
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Sam Burgess just basically said what everyone else wouldn’t have said and fronted up to the crap he dealt with he should be praised
Absolutely true.
Thing I thought is even though Sam Burgess is correct he had somewhere else to go where majority of other players don't!
@@gregdrew4944 which made it all the more important that he should confront those he had no reason to fear when others didn't have that luxury I think.
IMO Sam was a better RL player than Sonny Bill Williams and could have been a better Union player than him too, but was rushed in to the England set up and used as the whipping boy for the mistakes and shortcomings of others. Imagine if they had done the same thing to Jason Robinson a few years earlier.
@wildebest not many back rowers hit Billy Vunipola the way Sam Burgess did. Or hit the gain line at pace like Burgess did. Or get through the work load that Burgess did at 6. Or smash people backwards, even as he had to learn the differences in tackle technique
Burgess was a physical beast and needed more time to bed into a proper position.
@wildebest he was.a superstar in Rugby. He won the NRL grand final, a major RUGBY final.
I didn't feel like Burgess earned his place at RWC 2015, he was definitely fast tracked but I dont believe he's the reason we went out at the group, 2019 would have just been a better goal for him ultimately, he'd have had about 5 years in the game and we could have seen him reach his real potential in union, unfortunately we'll never know how good he could have been it's so disappointing
@@galinor7 Only non Aussie to win the Clive Churchill medal for M O M in the Nrl grand final
@@calrugbyfan Yes we do know, RFU old boys club and the journos with their cauliflower arses saw to it, he would be hounded out of the game.
Did Andy Goode really just pretend he's anything but the greatest player ever ?
Imagine what Sam would have achieved with England if he stuck around for the Jones era?
A 6"5, 18 stone blindside/number 8. The pace and athleticism of a centre, great offloading game and even a lineout option in time. Will never forget the "Good riddance" headline, appalling treatment.
Absolutely, Eddie coaches like a league team and has a league background being an Aussie. Sam would've been an absolute nightmare for any defence if they'd used him as a ball carrying 8. Over time he could've developed his skills around the ruck and set piece and gone on to be a legend of the game what a shame
@@willk1756 An EMBARRASSING chapter in English rugby in a fair hefty tome. The way some of the coaches and rugby journos have their hands in each others trousers should be a source of national shame. The old boys clubs working narratives faster than Dan Brown. Its a disgrace. Sam Burgess is an English megastar - but as with so many things in England the press and coaches can't stand players that outshine. No characters at any costs.
Ye we while of won the cup
Loved the Sam interview was very eye opening and I think he was truthful just like Andy is being here! I hope a few more come out!
Fair play Andy. Straight from the shoulder, and everyone knows where they are with you, whether they like it or not. NOBODY knows where they stand with a liar. Respect to you man. Stay safe.
Found the Mike Ford emoji
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Mike Ford, George Ford and his brother disliked this video
And now Mrs Ford has weighed in. (It's up to 4 dislikes).
Carl Fearns too
Gary Nicholls what did Carl say
Cant wait to boo George Ford at Twickers. I now HATE HIM
@@danedwadd62 I'm not a grass!
P.s. research why Fearns left Bath RFC
Fair play Goodey, great honesty from you. Gary Gold should have pulled the rug from under Ford during that meeting it sounds like ford didn’t care and gold apologising for him, wtf!! No wonder burgess left in the manner he did and the press said that hooper wouldn’t allow Sam to say goodbye to the other players....as a Bath fan, the future doesn’t look great right now. Fair play to Sam for speaking up, what a loss to union he was
Jeez how right were you mate. Bath are a shambles.
Goode is a straight up guy. Fair play on this! Sam Burgess is a legend!
as a welshman Im so pleased that his transition was cocked up.....as a 18 stone 6ft 5 inch centre who could step and move at speed he would have become a world class RU player had he remained fit......great athlete and bloke
Agree. Great league player and should have been given more time and support but from a Welsh point of view ha ha their problem. From a Union point of view would have loved to have seen him compete for Lions place etc etc
After the Burgess interview and hearing what Andy has to say....its pretty damning about Ford Senior. Thank goodness we have Eddie Jones
Remember seeing a Sky Sports News interview with Mike Ford at Toulon and he came across as a snake then. Rugby has become far too much like Football. All I hear on the pod is how much bloody money players are on.
I dont know why sam is made a scapegoat for the 2015 failure, England were beating wales when he went off, and he was covering gaps and making tackles, sam came in 2014-2015 season, not long enough to learn union, but still he should be made a scape goat, i think he played very well
Typical Class issue
@@thomastimms88 agreed
Mass exit from Leicester, or Ford leaves after 1 season.
I'd put money on that
As a Welshmen i'e got no skin in this game, I was stood in the fan zone at Twickenham on that RWC night. It was obvious Burgess was a class above. The way Mike Ford treated him, and his son is disgraceful and their actions comments following the loss tell you everything about those men.
Taking Burgess off in that WRC game, helped us get passed them. A silly move really.
@@galinor7 World rally championship?
andy goode is a legend and my personal hero!
People forget England were ten points up against Wales and Roberts had a grand total of three metres gained when they took Burgess off. Who would you rather have running at you Ford or Burgess? It’s not up for debate . Burgess was a beast. Ford couldn’t tackle a fish supper!!
As a Bath fan, I can concur that Mike Ford is a liar
Give me Sam Burgess over the Fords any day.
But I can't understand what Burgess is saying.
Cliveuų King Ford is worse
Mike ford lied to my face. As an England coach I couldn’t be honest with him.
Lions led by sheep (idiots). Sam was treated poorly and would have been a great asset to the team.
Always knew Burgess got totally done over in Union, an absolute passionate, honest, hard working bloke in Rugby Leauge, totally respected in the NRL, something wasn't right. Glad the truth came out. Goodey and Big Jim are total lads!
Tom Broomfield Well this comment aged well
It did actually. But you jumped the gun
Slammin Sam isnt a LIAR. glad he backed him up..
That is rugby Al over, with Andy’s experience with Mike Ford . Coaches haven’t got the bollox to be honest
Nothing good can happen from Andy Goode weighing in.
Robbie savage of rugby world /media
beatonthedonis47 . Truth can out, isn’t that good, Sam was a class player, you can see the difference with Eddie in charge, England are twice the side they were, Fords scheming would have had a bearing on that, or do we play it the dishonest English way, I know what way l prefer.
Andy speaks his mind and the debacle of Burgess getting parachuted in obvs caused ructions at Bath as well as at England. Has he ever talked on the pod about how he welched on his deal with Irish b4 he went to Wasps?
I heard Danny C had the same issues
Straight Shooter that Goodie. Jim for next James Bond.
Sam Burges one of the best rugby players ever, incredible. George ford lightweight not good enough.
George Ford a lightweight? Watch the 2015 semi-final Bath v Leicester!
Any new content in the works?
big sam's a legend!
What that saying again..... a jackel loose his hair but never his colour? Seems to me the ford guy has a yellow belly
Burgess is a great RL player, he was not a great RU player, just a physical specimen. The RFU made a big error of judgement in pushing him into the England set up, they tried to rush it through when they couldn’t even agree with Bath which position he should play. Burgess was never going to stay beyond the RWC window before going back to league, so the experiment was always destined to fail. Different skillset to the likes of Robinson, who’s running abilities we see once a generation if we are lucky.
bollocks, Bath settled him at 6, he was good enough t keep quiet a Lions centre in that Wales game. You know nothing, Burgess had signed a long contract, he didn't want to go back to Australia but the disgusting way he was treated forced his hand.
Of course he has a different skillset, totally different position ffs!
ynotnilknarf39
You nailed it my friend !
Burgess is a fantastic player in either code. I agree he was treated badly by Bath and was almost set up to fail. I hated how the press focused on him after a poor England WC. Was he to blame...no. When all the autobiography’s come out and someone will eventually reveal who the real disrupters in that squad were. One thing I can tell you , it won’t be Sam Burgess
Bath season ticket holder here. Burgess was class. Defensive wall at centres and fantastic organiser and leader.
Ouch
He sounds like a baddy, Goodey
Sam should have been a lion 🦁
I smell a defamation case brewing......
No chance. If he took that to court Mike Ford would be humiliated. People would come out the woodwork and it would get messy. He’d have to be fairly confident he could prove the accusations false.
Red Roses101 also telling stories about a rugby coach doesn’t amount to a defamation case😂
@@Shm00ly I see your point
Well you may be right after all. If Burgess doesn’t successfully contest the recent allegations, his reputation is shattered.
Is there anyone in rugby who Andy FOOD hasn't had a problem with? 🤔
Yes.
It's all crap.
Burgess is a self entitled substance abuser who cannot be honest with people close to him. The domestic violence allegations were not 'made up' and his legendary drug use and prescription pill use all add up to a very unstable person, capable of anything. He was givien a free pass by the Courts, the Police and the NRL. Another example of the love that men have for each other when sports are involved, one set of rules for them, another for the rest of us.
Ad hominem
Andy, it's a shame that you opt for the mute button on your mike with Burgess allegations. The guy is a monster, but you're like the BBC keeping jimmy saville in a job. shame on you
Sam Burgess should never have gone to the 2015 RWC 🏴
Bath fan here. Burgess was outstanding at Bath and absolutely should have gone to the WC. A defensive brickwall, which is exactly what you need at the highest level
Sam Burgess should never have gone to rugby union.......it’s a shit game.....leagues far more exciting!
Sam should have never played in that world cup