'Our mate' Graham Thorpe; No Stokes impact for England vs Sri Lanka? | Sky Sports Cricket Vodcast

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    On the latest Sky Sports Cricket Vodcast Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton remember Graham Thorpe and look ahead to England's Test series against Sri Lanka.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 100

  • @DynamiteBobby
    @DynamiteBobby Місяць тому +83

    Whoever at Sky decided to put Atherton and Hussain on a podcast deserves a medal, the oracle of cricket podcasts these two

    • @_Mirage_12
      @_Mirage_12 29 днів тому +2

      Absolute Gold

    • @JB-td9fz
      @JB-td9fz 29 днів тому +5

      Sensational aren't they. I could listen to them for hours

    • @robertmason6366
      @robertmason6366 28 днів тому

      Atherton is a cricket scholar. I love his commentary. Articulation in its purest form.

    • @sudhanshumitra1989
      @sudhanshumitra1989 27 днів тому

      ​@@robertmason6366he was a very good batsman and captain....It's just reflected in his commentary....

    • @sudhanshumitra1989
      @sudhanshumitra1989 27 днів тому

      ​@@robertmason6366I just love the depth of questions he always asks from the skipper of both sides when any test match or test series or even any huge ICC event ends...it just one of the best in cricketing world....

  • @danhunt8811
    @danhunt8811 Місяць тому +66

    It's been clear, just from the expressions on their faces, how hard the loss of Thorpe has hit his former teammates. I lost my best friend, aged 45, three months ago and we grew up together watching Athers, Nas and Thorpe through the 90's and I find myself both shocked by the news, and without the one person who would have understood that feeling. It's a strange entwining of personal loss and public tragedy. The truth is that life, private or public, is fragile, precious and worth making the most of whilst we have it.

  • @pixelligence3091
    @pixelligence3091 Місяць тому +23

    Even as an Indian cricket fan, Loved watching Thorpe for his sheer determination and grit...of course talent was galore. RIP champ. One of the best English cricketers by far in that era. ❤

  • @razilH
    @razilH Місяць тому +11

    My early memories of eng cricket was Graham Thorpe with his white head band and hat.
    Love from India...

  • @petersmith4315
    @petersmith4315 29 днів тому +10

    Atherton looks like a mad scientist that has been spending hours on working out a solution

  • @andrewmitchell2313
    @andrewmitchell2313 Місяць тому +16

    These two are a genuinely pleasurable watch..

  • @satstatchannel
    @satstatchannel Місяць тому +13

    Thorpey was a great player. Unbelievably sad and heartbreaking what happened to him. Will watch out for the tribute next test match. RIP

  • @_tm11
    @_tm11 Місяць тому +12

    These two guys are legends. All class! RIP Thorpe.

  • @billybank2012
    @billybank2012 Місяць тому +7

    thorpey passing is still a shock... condolences to all fans, former players and colleagues and family alike....

  • @gerardferrara4387
    @gerardferrara4387 Місяць тому +9

    Love watching you two, intelligent, authentic discussion. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia

  • @ianhiscock9440
    @ianhiscock9440 Місяць тому +5

    Come on, gents! You know they’re never off the books! Congratulations to you all, and you’ve been so good in the wake of Graham’s loss. We know how tough talking about him must have been but you’ve both done a wonderful player absolutely proud.

  • @NPA1001
    @NPA1001 Місяць тому +5

    Thorpe made good runs in an era of great bowling attacks, Warne and McGrath, Walsh and Ambrose, Waquar and Wasim, Donald and Pollock, Kumble and Srinath, Muralitharan and Vass.. there was no let up in those days whoever you played against… RIP

    • @robertmason6366
      @robertmason6366 28 днів тому +1

      Thorpe averaged over 50 when he came back in 2003. He was dropped for the 2005 ashes for Ian Bell. Awful decision because if thorp played it would of been a bigger margin of victory.

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 27 днів тому +1

      ​no, it was the correct decision

  • @jonathanbennett4753
    @jonathanbennett4753 Місяць тому +5

    I’ve been waiting all week to here the two of you speak about Graham Thorpe, thanks for sharing. I was a teenager in the 90s in Surrey left-hand my favorite cricketer.

  • @nottudyug
    @nottudyug Місяць тому +9

    I can vividly remember the 46 innings.
    I loved watching Thorpey back then. Such a brilliant Batsman. Huge respect may he RIP.

  • @nirenshah7386
    @nirenshah7386 Місяць тому +8

    Great podcast once again !!! RIP Graham Thorpe.

  • @princeroytilakasiri5675
    @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому +4

    Just want to say something about Graham Thorpe. I wished that he had some help when he was on tour in australia with the covid restrictions in 2021. I don't honestly know whether his family was there with him in australia but I felt the pressure of the job and then getting sacked for england hurt him so much especially with the night with the other cricketers in hobart. I think after that he never became the same person again 😢😢😢.

  • @LavisP
    @LavisP Місяць тому +8

    Best two cricket pundits bar non.

  • @Thechosenfool
    @Thechosenfool 25 днів тому

    RIP Thorpey, loved him as a player and he always came across as a lovely guy - Thanks Nas and Athers for the lovely tribute to the legend.

  • @jag7914
    @jag7914 24 дні тому

    The best podcast with these two legends. Great listening. RIP Thorpe

  • @grahammayoh7009
    @grahammayoh7009 29 днів тому +2

    will watch the tribute to Graham Thorpe next week and enjoy the test as well

  • @princeroytilakasiri5675
    @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому +1

    Only met Michael at Lord's on the 23rd July with Brian Lara. I remember taking a photo with both of them . Also Michael shook my hand afterwards as he was a true gentleman. I wished Graham Thorpe was there at Lord's that day 😢. This was less than 2 weeks before Graham died 😢😢.

  • @aru4912
    @aru4912 Місяць тому +4

    Sorry for your loss Mike and Naser

  • @andystevenstv
    @andystevenstv Місяць тому +1

    A wonderful tribute to a great man. But, nobody should get to a stage where they feel they feel they should end their own life. Nobody should ever be allowed to get to this stage. Ever.

  • @princeroytilakasiri5675
    @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому +4

    I hope the ECB can learn from Graham Thorpe case. There's alot pressure on these players and coaches with social media and media expecting results. I hope the ECB have a course on health and well-being for all staff in the future.

    • @princeroytilakasiri5675
      @princeroytilakasiri5675 28 днів тому

      This includes Ben Stokes and Brendan McCullum who have done a great job for english cricket. They need protection from the media.

  • @patrickpayne8330
    @patrickpayne8330 Місяць тому +1

    A Great and respectful post of "thorpie"...respect to you both of a great informational post

  • @gouravsuman4570
    @gouravsuman4570 Місяць тому +2

    I have been waiting for your podcast since last Monday, It's a kind of my routine for me to listen to you guys every week....

  • @ploddodd
    @ploddodd 28 днів тому

    shamar Joseph is an absolute joy to watch bowl or bat. In the SA series just finished he is on his way to all rounder.

  • @stripedjacket3558
    @stripedjacket3558 Місяць тому +3

    Two of the greats of the game. Love listening to them. Just unbelievable what happened to Graham Thorpe. So sad and shocking how he decided to end his life.

  • @robertmason6366
    @robertmason6366 28 днів тому

    ❤you Thorpey. Amazing player and the only player the great Australian side respected. One of the best batsmen at steering the tail. He averaged over 50 after his 2 years out and was ridiculously dropped.

  • @samqr9184
    @samqr9184 29 днів тому

    Thorpe was the best at handling pressure in the middle for England in the 90’s. RIP, who would have thought what was happening to him. 😢

  • @princeroytilakasiri5675
    @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому

    Although I was born here, all my family relationships are sri lankan including my wife. I really enjoy both Michael and Nasser talking about Sri Lanka cricket and how they enjoyed playing over there ❤

  • @farfromreal
    @farfromreal Місяць тому +2

    Congrats to the Dads!

  • @satvinderdheandsa5818
    @satvinderdheandsa5818 Місяць тому

    Thorpe legends with hussain & atharton 🤙🏽

  • @AmirGhulam-q4x
    @AmirGhulam-q4x Місяць тому

    Thorpe was the guy that changed England cricket as a fast scorer an a polite person rip

  • @satishnotani7013
    @satishnotani7013 Місяць тому

    I enjoy every single program about them bcas they are full of talent don’t miss any broadcast 👍

  • @shankarathreya1899
    @shankarathreya1899 Місяць тому

    I have been through a clearing experience with my kid...unbelievable

  • @princeroytilakasiri5675
    @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому

    Thorpe is the only cricketer to face 2 Brian Lara world records of 375 and 400 😢😢. Both Michael and Nasser would remember both. 😢

  • @jamesguest7438
    @jamesguest7438 28 днів тому

    I loved the happy cricket memories. Lovely and correct.
    Did either of you notice his illness or try to talk?
    I only ask because everyone thinks I'm confident and insult me.
    I'm only saying because I hide my mental illness and people don't believe it's a shame. We hide things and then hide the things we use to hide them. Like bottles when we hide behind alcohol.
    I'm now saying everything and anything to create discussion but that's an act too.
    Please talk more about feelings gents. In our own ways, not like ladies, because we do things differently and it takes so much more to say how we feel. It takes more for us to have these conversations. We can and we should. Speak to your mates and if they don't seem right, then they probably aren't. If they seem strangely happy then that's a classic sign. Any change.

  • @Bobertron199494
    @Bobertron199494 Місяць тому

    Would have appreciated a bit of a deep dive into Sri Lanka's test squad

  • @richardsmegma5081
    @richardsmegma5081 Місяць тому +4

    Looks like a failed Zoom audition for the next Bond villain 😀

  • @simplemaths7611
    @simplemaths7611 Місяць тому +2

    SL Test batting line up is actually better than both England and WI.

    • @amitm2692
      @amitm2692 Місяць тому +3

      Yeah... SL batting is so good that they lost the test series at home to Eng & Pak..... what kind of cricket are you watching exactly & what exactly is your cricketing IQ????😅😅😅

    • @sohamroy6398
      @sohamroy6398 29 днів тому

      ​​They were batting pretty well in those test matches as well...their captain dds is a great test player...they lost those 2 Pakistan test because of saud sakeel...look at their average....most of them are above 40 which is verry good​@@amitm2692

    • @robertmason6366
      @robertmason6366 28 днів тому

      Ridiculous.😅

    • @sudhanshumitra1989
      @sudhanshumitra1989 27 днів тому +1

      Are you mad or what...just rubbish...I agree SL batting is much much better than that of WI...but than England...man then its evident you don't follow most of England's recent test resurgence under Baz and Stokes...even without Stokes...there batting line consist Ben Ducket , Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Harry Brook...and new batsman keeper Jamie Fox...are u kidding...its better than SL...so first try to get rid of Root in this series...than u'll understand in front of the best test batsman going around the world you guys are bowling...I just hope it's not 3-0 in favour of England...let's see...if Mark Wood and Gus Atkinson and Shoiab Bashir performs similarly what they did previously than SL has no chance...the scoreline will again read 3-0...in favour of England....

  • @harshsinghi1474
    @harshsinghi1474 Місяць тому

    Chamari is playing the odi series against ireland

  • @andymaidment111
    @andymaidment111 Місяць тому +4

    "All the work he put in", to balls it all up playing in the Mickey Mouse Hundred.

  • @silviodante3950
    @silviodante3950 Місяць тому +1

    RIP Thorpey. Englsnd cricket fans loved you more than you will ever know.

  • @christianfrost8660
    @christianfrost8660 Місяць тому +1

    Saying that Ben Stokes is irreplaceable is only true because the ECB is unwilling to select their only other international pace bowling All-Rounder.

  • @craiggoddard488
    @craiggoddard488 Місяць тому

    The hundred is the best thing that’s ever happened to women’s cricket

  • @cricketmadness8588
    @cricketmadness8588 Місяць тому

    Jordan cox played in the lanka premier league itself so he knows what the sri lankans have to offer

  • @Sid-e5y
    @Sid-e5y Місяць тому

    Interesting

  • @satvinderdheandsa5818
    @satvinderdheandsa5818 Місяць тому

    Sad loss 😢

  • @bobburroughs6241
    @bobburroughs6241 29 днів тому

    Got that result wrong Nas!

  • @Pa-tk1dx
    @Pa-tk1dx Місяць тому

    Christ Nas feels it

  • @craiggoddard488
    @craiggoddard488 Місяць тому +1

    Smith is very KP

  • @marcrosser8556
    @marcrosser8556 28 днів тому

    Remember watching the ashes when England won

  • @ANDREWPENFOLD865
    @ANDREWPENFOLD865 Місяць тому

    Have I missed something here?
    Why is Bairstow dropped out of favour?

  • @johncannon3411
    @johncannon3411 29 днів тому +1

    spare a thought for the train driver eh lads

  • @AdamSainy
    @AdamSainy Місяць тому +2

    Jumping in front of a train is a brutal way to go. I wish he would have gotten more help after his first attempt. Sad 😭

    • @plym1969
      @plym1969 Місяць тому

      How do you know he didn't get help?
      Not every illness can be cured.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 Місяць тому +1

      @@plym1969for sure. While it’s good that mental health is more ‘talked about’ and so on, I wish people wouldn’t just assume it’s as simple as ‘getting help’

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 21 день тому

      ​@@HkFinn83True. The help available is often woefully inadequate. There are variations in the quality of help, too. While individual circumstances vary it is broadly the case that mental health issues are far worse in unequal societies. This is not a comment on the tragedy of Graham Thorpe. I read that different types of help did not work for him; sometimes nothing is enough and that is a sad reality. The rich can doubtless afford expensive private treatment but even then it may not work. The majority are unlikely to receive sufficient help from the NHS.

  • @mevanperera6171
    @mevanperera6171 29 днів тому

    They expect Sri lanka to play better, but they invite them once a decade 😅

  • @atulmalhotra2303
    @atulmalhotra2303 Місяць тому +1

    I thought Thorpe was the most elegant batsman to come out of England, at least for the part I saw as a viewer.

    • @ShanePalmer-yo4og
      @ShanePalmer-yo4og Місяць тому +3

      Thorpe was a grafter. And a great batsman for England. But elegant, no. Have you never watched Colin Cowdrey, Ted Dexter, Tom Graveney, and David Gower, To name just a few.

    • @sudhanshumitra1989
      @sudhanshumitra1989 27 днів тому

      I agree Thorpy was the most elegant as well as most effective test batsman of England in 90's...

  • @gamerxvc3055
    @gamerxvc3055 26 днів тому

    Stokes is not irreplaceable. He is the most replaceable player. Horrible cricketer. Most important part of a player is missing in him, no matter how talented you are if you can't play regularly you are a horrible player

  • @SunnySingh-mi8db
    @SunnySingh-mi8db 28 днів тому

    graham Thorpe suicide reveals how male depression is still not taken seriously in our society.We always expect to be strong.tbh most suicides in world due to depression is of male

    • @jimb9063
      @jimb9063 25 днів тому +1

      True. I always get the impression that we talk about talking about it, and little else.
      Those who have great support systems in place anyway, or can afford proper help often prescribe to this opinion, without realising it's those other things that allow a good outcome from talking, rather than simply the talking itself. It usually ends disastrously for most, as it's interpreted as weakness and a further weapon to use, and things are far worse than they were before.
      There's an interesting parallel between human behaviour and what Robert Sapolsky found in his study of baboons. When sedating them with a dart gun for study, he found that when a female was hit, all the females and young went wild and attacked him. When a male was hit, no one appeared to care, apart from the males lower down the pecking order who would try to kill the sedated male while they had the chance.
      It's not personal, it's just how it is.

  • @nigelhudson1948
    @nigelhudson1948 Місяць тому

    Come on guys! You need to address both the manner of his death and the reasons behind it. This is an issue that transcends sport and affects all of us, either directly or indirectly.

  • @douglassmith9338
    @douglassmith9338 Місяць тому +5

    Admired Thorpe as a player but he was extremely selfish to take the train driver down with him.

    • @plym1969
      @plym1969 Місяць тому +4

      Yes it's terrible for the train driver. But selfish? In 2024 we're still calling suicide selfish? Unbelievable 😮

    • @princeroytilakasiri5675
      @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому +2

      He wasn't himself, so just be careful when saying these things. We just don't know what thoughts were in his mind with pressure from media and job.

    • @princeroytilakasiri5675
      @princeroytilakasiri5675 Місяць тому

      He was on medication to try and sort his life out but it's very upsetting for the family.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 Місяць тому +1

      Cringe take, something a vicar from 1950 would say

    • @silviodante3950
      @silviodante3950 Місяць тому

      Your name is Douglas😂

  • @andymaidment111
    @andymaidment111 Місяць тому +3

    Pope is hardly worth his place in the side, certainly not at number 3. Never mind being captain.
    He's just the chosen one that's all.

  • @rockywright8365
    @rockywright8365 28 днів тому

    The hundred is shite.

  • @robertnutt4944
    @robertnutt4944 Місяць тому +5

    I enjoyed thorpe's batting however, No mention whatsoever for the poor train driver whom has to live with the trauma affecting both driver & thier family. No sympathy for thorpe from me!

    • @LavisP
      @LavisP Місяць тому

      So why leave a comment on this podcast. Emptyheaded idiot.

    • @plym1969
      @plym1969 Місяць тому +3

      I really feel sorry for anyone that knows you. To have such little emotional intelligence and understanding of depression in 2024 shows a real lack of curiosity and wanting to be a better person.
      Let's hope no one needs to turn to you for help and advice.

    • @silviodante3950
      @silviodante3950 Місяць тому

      Robert you are a sad man. You sound seriously unhappy. Hope you can get help with your issues.

  • @macdory666
    @macdory666 Місяць тому +1

    Lots of talk about womens cricket, but it really isn't a good watch .. better down the local pitch on a sunday .. why is it being pushed so hard?

  • @ianbetts4435
    @ianbetts4435 Місяць тому +3

    Its ok for these so called mates speaking up now but where where they in the last 2 years when Graham needed his mates.