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Metering for film photography
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Metering
01:30 - SUNNY 16
02:30 - Sunny 16 scenarios to remember
03:10 - Relationship between Aperture & Shutter Speed
04:10 - Sunny 16 Pros & Cons
05:06 - REFLECTIVE METERING
06:00 - DIY 18% Grey reflected meter example
07:05 - Types of Reflective Metering
08:23 - Reflective Metering Pros & Cons
09:10 - INCIDENT METERING
09:57 - Incident Meter walkthrough
10:23 - Incident Metering Pros & Cons
10:55 - ZONE SYSTEM
11:27 - Zones explained
12:05 - Pentax Digital Spot meter walkthrough
12:28 - Placing readings in Zones
13:01 - Zone System Pros & Cons
13:39 - Outro
One of the benefits of getting into film photography, for me at least, is getting a better understanding of light and metering for a scene. And it goes without saying, the more you do it, the better you get.
I'm far from being a pro but I have learnt a bunch of things this past couple of years when it comes to metering and I thought it would be useful to put some of the basics together.
So if you or someone you know is starting to shoot film or photography in general this would be a good video to watch to get an understanding of different types of metering and what their benefits and disadvantages are.
I would love to know your thoughts and any tips you have for myself and other viewers of this video!
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one con of reflective metering you didn't mention is that on older slr's and metered prism systems for 135 and MF cameras a radioactive "reference" is used, aka the "selenium" in the meter name, this is the voltage used to balance the meter circuit, the light sensitive diode provides the other side, and it is the meters job to balance the two, the asa and other settings set the voltage given to the balance circuit, from the radioactive power source. the con is that as they age, the radioactive cell decomposes, so the system loses the power for the reference side, so is no longer usable.
excellent, thanks for taking the time to explain it and thank you for watching :)
@@SathyaPeacock no worries, I have Autism, so am into the guts of this stuff, and I collect and shoot too, but Thankyou for this video, as not many basic metering videos are around, unless they are from Sekonic themselves!!
Glad to see an Indian film photographer on UA-cam ✨
Thank you! Appreciate that :)
What a great and informative video...glad I found your channel. Learned more from u than all the other videos I've watched on this topic...
Great to hear that. Thanks for taking the time to let me know 😊
Excellent Sathya, very informative - exhaustive and concise at the same time!
Thank you so much for watching :) glad you found it informative.
Thank you, I learned a few things I hadn't heard before that were helpful. Nicely put together, Sathya.
Glad to hear that :) thank you for watching :)
This is a totally UNDERRATED channel! I learned so much in just one sitting than all the research and videos I've watched before. Perfectly condensed too. Great job!! Will def look out for this channel more 🥰. Your color grading and visuals are so spectacular and incredibly CINEMATIC btw 👌🔥!
Wow thank you for the kind words Joshua :) Truly appreciate that! Glad you're enjoying the color grading and visuals. I'm still new to resolve so there's a tonne to learn on color grading front but enjoying the process so far!
I’ve just discover this channel and i love it!
Thank you so much! That means a lot :)
Awesome video, thanks for the help!
Glad you found it useful! Thanks for letting me know :)
Great video, good info and very well presented!
Hi Morgan, thank you for watching :) glad you found it useful.
Good job !!! rb
Thank you!
You present the information very well. I think modern photographers tend to over micromanage the exposure. Sense older master photographers like Robert Capa, and Henri Cartier Bresson didn't have these as a distraction so they could master the shot/composition. That's why there were masters.
Thank you!
Regarding modern photographers micromanaging exposures, I am not quite sure what you mean by that. Could you please elaborate?
@@SathyaPeacock Yes the old masters from the 20s 30s 40s and 50s and later never used spot meters or the zone system. When you looked at their work it was every bit as good as anything today and often much better. why, they didn't have all these distractions so they could concentrate on their photography truly as an art. Today watching the plethora of UA-cam videos so many people micromanage their exposure and micromanaging everything else. It seems like they are more interested the minutia rather than the art of photography.
@@BennyCFD still not clear. Just like Sathya, I really don't understand what you mean. Before shooting they do set their exposure..no matter the method, they don't just take their camera, aim, focus (eventually, may be just preset), and shoot..The photographer you referenced are street photographers, landscape photography is another ball game, no comparison has to be maid, in all aspect, composirion, exposure, etc..the goals are different.
Wow what an incredible video haha thank you for the time you spent on this! Amazing information and you did a great job editing the video 🙌🏻
Thanks a lot JD :) appreciate you watching 👊🏽
If one uses reflective metering with a spot meter it's best to learn the zone system to easily correct the 18% grey 'problem'
Definitely great advice!
Thank you so much man!
Hi Sathya. Just great video..I wish if you could make a video on just using the Pentax Spotmerer with the zone scale attached to it, and meter a landscape scene, get a base correct exposure, and modified it for your state whole keep the same relationship, aperture/shutter speed as in your base exposure.
1. Using the spotmeter with the zones scale.
2. Metering the scene for negative film (b&w and color), and slide film, in order to get a correct exposure (correct quantity of light to strike the film)
Talking of dynamic of a scene with the Pentax Spotmerer, how to evaluate it, will the type of film can handle it?
Etc...when using slide film, and scene dynamic range too high, the using the NDG filters to fix the problem, etc..
You see what mean..
2. Then modifying eventually that exposure according to what you want in the final image (want max depth of field, or blur the background, showing movement, etc..), by changing the Aperture or the Shutter speed, while keeping the same correct exposure determined at the first place..
That would be a great video...Good luck..
Hey Roi! Thank you for taking the time to watch and for leaving a comprehensive comment. I do have plans to make a standalone video for Pentax spot meter so I’ll keep this in mind for that one. Thanks again, have a good day
@@SathyaPeacock you are very welcome, Sathya. You're doing a great work. Looking forward for a video on the Pentax Spotmeter, and it's use for metering, especially in landscape photography..I am sure this will interest a lot of film photographer..this will also help film photographers using in camera spotmeter..I have no experience in video making, but I will be there if you need any help on putting this together, and include the zone system.
Hi! Not sure how the zone system works. I assume I need to be in AV. I meter my shadows and say I want them in zone II or III. Then I need to, say, meter another 3 or 4 spots. How do I know which shutter speed to use? Thanks!
Hi, do you mean how to use the meter? Or do you mean in the spot meter after you place your readings in the zones you want, how to pick the shutter speed/f stop combination? If it’s the former, you need a specific type of meter to use zone system (search Pentax digital spot meter there are other meters but this is the one I talk about in the video). If it’s the latter then that’s a subjective question :) after you place readings from different spots on zones you want you can pick any combination that suits your vision. Hope that makes sense? Thanks
Thank you Sathya, very important session.
I just got similar to your Pentax spot meter, if I may ask you what are the two red dots on the right side of the EV reader, sometimes only one is illuminating and some times both?
Thanks for watching! The meter reads light in 1/3rd EV increments so when one red dot is illuminated it’s 1/3rd of an EV and when 2 red dots it’s 2/3rd of an EV :) hope that makes sense.
Great video! What is your preferred method of metering skin tones for portraits ?
Hi, thank you :) I don’t shoot portraits often but I normally use an incident meter and meter for the person’s face; usually for the bright side.
This so useful Sathya thank you. P.S Ditto Joshua Drilon
Thanks Gary! Glad you found it useful
09:31 point the meter to the camera not like that,
I could’ve been clearer in my explanation as I thought the meter was infact pointing my video camera, in this case, as a demonstration. But yes, point the meter to your camera while measuring the light on your subject. Thanks for the comment 👊🏽
I learned the Zone system in photo. school but I was way into digital and forgot all about it. Now I'm back using film cameras and your video helped bring it all back. Thank you!
Thank you! Glad it helped :)
I'm of the belief that when shooting digital images, that the smaller ones adjustment to tonality are, the better the final image is. This is why after photographing for over 60 years, I continue to use spot metering and when appropriate, incident metering when shooting with a digital camera.