Couple notes I forgot to add to this video. 1. As always, the words "budget-friendly" or "affordable" are relative. I strongly believe this setup is super affordable for the size and quality of the display. In the end it costs around $5k with the projector, screen, and trusses. You could save money by reducing the size of everything. 2. The black border around the frame of the screen was a custom request when we ordered it from Karl's Place. I can't find it on their website, but I would reach out to them and tell them you want it.
Thank you for this Jake! Our church plant in Gilbert AZ is using many of your recommendations. Could you share some info on the material that you used to velcro the border of the frame? Dimensions would be really helpful, we ordered the same 9x16 screen as you are using. Thx so much!
Hey Jake! Quick suggestion, I would consider updating the pricing on certain items. I re-created your set up at my church , looks GREAT, BUT the truss portion cost me about $1200 more than what's listed in this video. None that less, this was a GREAT find and it completely gave our sanctuary a face lift
Thanks for the video! These really help in providing ideas for our small church. I was wondering, do you have any experience that you could share regarding foldback screens/confidence monitors for worship lyrics and the hardware required when you only have a laptop? Thanks!
Hey Jake, loved this recommendation, however, I looked into Carl's Place, and they are now a Golf Simulator service, they said they only have 2 theater screen materials left, grey and white reverse, with a max height of 86 in. with widths up to 400 in. Bit of a bummer, any chance you have any more recommendations Jake?? I am in talks with Altitude to see what an LED wall would look like, we're trying to get an idea of what's going to work better for us, projectors or LED walls. Thank you for your ministry and content.
Hello, can I have access to the projector link, screen and all if possible. Thanks, this has really helped us big time, we had too much questions indeed
In the front of the screen as always. BUT i noticed the guys were placing it at the back? And i didnt know there was a special HDMI cable with an incorporated sound signal thought all HDMI cables have audio and visual signals
I really like your videos, they are extremely helpful with out plans to update our sanctuary. You mentioned the material in the video that you put around the screen but I don't see a link to it. Can you tell me what you used?
Our projector just blew up a few minutes before service. Can you suggest a low budget forward casting projector we can replace it with? It hangs from the ceiling. Thanks
Hi, my church is just starting to plan a setup to project song lyrics up front for ccli music. Is it possible to use a screen about three and a half feet high , projecting lyrics onto it while our organist / pianist plays?
Hey Jake. Thanks for the info. We did buy 2 viewsonic ls830 and set up 2 grey screens 12ft x 6.75. Our throw is 37inches. I ordered the projectors off Amazon and then we redid our whole stage, paint walls, etc...so it took about 3 weeks. We finally set up the projector and screens this past weekend. I was soooo disappointed and shocked by the brightness of the color. Our front projectors at half the lumens and the price were a lot brighter. I checked with Amazon and it's too late to return projectors. Do you think I'm missing anything? We went into settings and set. Our stage lights in our auditorium are not bright. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
@@stevenmcknight161 I've had issues before with projectors due to cables. I had to use signal boosters and that made a huge difference. Your screen material could also be the issue.
We have a small congregation averaging 5 - 8 people whose average age is probably 48 years old. We have a pull-up movie projector screen on a tripod stand and have been using an old overhead projector but the projector just died today. We've been give an old epson projector that hooks up to a laptop. I tried putting the lyrics onto song pages and projecting them like we did with the overhead but the words are too small from the projector and we'd like to be able to project the words one line at a time. What would you recommend? We have no money to spend so it would have to be simple. Thanks
Hi Jake thanks for this video. Very I formative. Question, how far back from the screen do you need to put the projector. Our church has limited stage space
Help! Having difficulties with a hdmi run on a brand new Mac mini. will not extend the desktop with the newest version of Propresenter. There is no tech support from anybody that I can find.
David Ostapuk My church decided to pull the trigger on it after watching the video. The projector is great. As long as you can control house lighting, it’s good to go.
I watched some of the service videos from Mission Lakewood Church and noticed the house is very dark and still the words o the screen are not bright and sharp. It appears the ViewSonic used here is being stretched beyond it's design limits. (214" Vs 150" in the specification)
@@fatkins76 Given a moderate ambient lighting setup, how has that held up? At what point did you found the image to fall apart? Curious for our church setup.
@@bradyholcomb9306 You definitely need it dark behind the screen and on the stage in front of it. I have 4 spots for front lighting that were shuttered down to keep excess light from spilling on the screen. The projector is definitely operating outside of its specs for projection size, but it’s goods enough. Here is what it looked like when we where in a school gym m.facebook.com/seektherefuge/
Learn NOT to use hand and arm motions when making a video. People will take you more seriously. This is just a fact of life for public speaking and was once regularly taught by English teachers everywhere. Try it. Make a video of yourself talking where you wave your hands around as you normally would. Then make a second video of yourself saying the same thing without moving your hands and arms. View and compare the two videos. You'll clearly see that the video without hand and arm movements comes across much more focused and believable. Eliminating hand and arm motions when speaking by video or in-person greatly enhances credibility to what the speaker is communicating. Thank you for the great info on a low cost way to construct a video system for smaller churches.
I just search about projector for church last week on UA-cam. This video has been helpful. The projector you mentioned here is a little bit a high side for my church any other suggestions within the range of $1000
I dont' know any specific models but look at the specs on the model of the one i suggest here and then shop around for those smaller budget options. I would keep in mind you arent going to get as large or bright of an image.
It depends on your room. You need to ask yourself a few questions. - Will the room be fairly well lit or dark at most times? - Does the projector need to be mounted close or far away? - What is the size of your screen? If your room is dark and can be mounted anywhere, you can get by with much cheaper projectors. Short throw projectors with a good amount of lumens is typically where it gets pricey. At my church plant, we had a $1000 6000 lumen Optima projector in a room that was 100% lit up and had direct sunlight coming in, it was mounted about 15-20 feet from the screen and it worked just fine filling a 10-12’ screen from that distance. We since made some changes to the space and needed to mount the projector closer, so we were forced to sell our projector and we bought a short throw with roughly half the lumens and it was just fine as well. We mounted it roughly 5 feet away from the screen and it cast our 10-12’ image just fine. That projector was also an $800 Optima. To get it that big at closer distances you HAVE to get a short throw projector or else you won’t be able to get the image large enough.
I was hoping for a real budget friendly set up. We are a church plant and maybe have around $300 for both projector and screen. Anyways thanks and I'll keep looking .
The toolkit is misleading or at least for me it was. The link in the toolkit took me to the f24 trusses and 20x20 baseplate. After watching the video again it seems like the f34 trusses are being used. I purchased two f24 trusses and two 20x20 base plates (also in the toolkit) from B&H. These are non-returnable and non-cancelable so beware when purchasing from the toolkit. They are not the same. You need to purchase the f34 trusses and 30x30 f34 base plate, not the f24 trusses and 20x20 base plate that is linked in the toolkit. The f24 trusses are light duty about 8” wide, the f34s are medium duty at almost 12” wide. I blew a big part of our church budget buying what was linked in the toolkit. I wish I would of done more research on trusses before purchasing. Global truss has an online catalog with specs that B&H fail to provide. If I’m wrong please let me know.
Hi Everyone, how do I set up a low budget Live Church Service on multiple monitors and same time Bible verses and some other presentations will be displaying as footages are displaying on screens?
Good information. I'm with our church video team,and We are looking at upgrading our stage presence for our church. And we need a good projection screen.
Informative, thank you! You mentioned you put the projector behind the screen. I looked up the projector you mentioned and it does not specify that it is for rear projection, does it matter or can you use any projector in the front or back? The place you would need to specify is just the background material? Thanks for all the great info.
Couple notes I forgot to add to this video.
1. As always, the words "budget-friendly" or "affordable" are relative. I strongly believe this setup is super affordable for the size and quality of the display. In the end it costs around $5k with the projector, screen, and trusses. You could save money by reducing the size of everything.
2. The black border around the frame of the screen was a custom request when we ordered it from Karl's Place. I can't find it on their website, but I would reach out to them and tell them you want it.
Thank you for this Jake! Our church plant in Gilbert AZ is using many of your recommendations. Could you share some info on the material that you used to velcro the border of the frame? Dimensions would be really helpful, we ordered the same 9x16 screen as you are using. Thx so much!
Churchfront with Jake Gosselin do you have their web for ordering DIY please let me know?
We have shorter trusses(9.84) than yours (11.48). Would our trusses be able to hold your screen?
Hey Jake! Love all of this! But trying to find the links to the gear you used.
Hi Jake, do you know any other more powerful projector that will work for this screen?
Looks like Carl's Place does not sell these kits anymore. Any pointers to still get this screen setup? Thank you! Great video
Hey Jake! Quick suggestion, I would consider updating the pricing on certain items. I re-created your set up at my church , looks GREAT, BUT the truss portion cost me about $1200 more than what's listed in this video. None that less, this was a GREAT find and it completely gave our sanctuary a face lift
The projector maxes out at 150 inches. How are you guys making it project on the 214 inch projector?
Thanks for sharing. I had a hard time trying to figure this stuff out.
We are a church plant as well...this is SUPER helpful! Thank you!
You rock bro! God bless... Thanks for sharing the info!
Woot Thanks!
Great info, thanks!
I love this
Thank you!
thanks for sharing.., God bless you
Awesome information!
Thanks bro.. very informative..
Thanks for the video! These really help in providing ideas for our small church.
I was wondering, do you have any experience that you could share regarding foldback screens/confidence monitors for worship lyrics and the hardware required when you only have a laptop?
Thanks!
Carls Place no longer offers rear projection kits for larger size screens like this. Bummer.
I need some help with my church
hey!!! great video!! can you share the length and all the specs of the 1" pipes?
Can we have a link to the motion background you are using in ProPresenter
How wide is the skirt?
Hey Jake, loved this recommendation, however, I looked into Carl's Place, and they are now a Golf Simulator service, they said they only have 2 theater screen materials left, grey and white reverse, with a max height of 86 in. with widths up to 400 in. Bit of a bummer, any chance you have any more recommendations Jake?? I am in talks with Altitude to see what an LED wall would look like, we're trying to get an idea of what's going to work better for us, projectors or LED walls.
Thank you for your ministry and content.
I would definitely go with Altitude if your budget can allow it. I gotta do some new research on projection screens
We will be glad @@Churchfront
How did you set up the projector behind the screen (7.25)?
I thought projectors were meant to go in front of the screen.
This is such a better look
Is the projector that you use upside down/ceiling mountable?
Hello, can I have access to the projector link, screen and all if possible. Thanks, this has really helped us big time, we had too much questions indeed
Hi Jake, how do I send my video recording to the projector screen
Btw there is another software call Easyworship
witch sucks... no offence
Hello! can you help me to choose the fabric that you are using between the pipes and screen? where to find that? thanks!
Thanks for this very informative video. I got a question...where do you put the projector?
In the front of the screen as always. BUT i noticed the guys were placing it at the back?
And i didnt know there was a special HDMI cable with an incorporated sound signal thought all HDMI cables have audio and visual signals
What would be the best option for a projector screen if you don't have the space to cast the projector on the rear end?
Hello! the ViewSonic projector cover 16x9ft screen? thanks
@churchfront was the projector placed behind the screen or in front of the screen?
I really like your videos, they are extremely helpful with out plans to update our sanctuary. You mentioned the material in the video that you put around the screen but I don't see a link to it. Can you tell me what you used?
We custom ordered it from Carl’s place. Just tell them you want it!
@@Churchfront Thanks
Hi. I want to make the skirt myself. How wide is the skirt? Thank you.
You didn't show anything about the actual projector
Where to buy your merch?
Our projector just blew up a few minutes before service. Can you suggest a low budget forward casting projector we can replace it with? It hangs from the ceiling. Thanks
What software do you use to control the display
Hi, my church is just starting to plan a setup to project song lyrics up front for ccli music. Is it possible to use a screen about three and a half feet high , projecting lyrics onto it while our organist / pianist plays?
Hey Jake. Thanks for the info. We did buy 2 viewsonic ls830 and set up 2 grey screens
12ft x 6.75. Our throw is 37inches. I ordered the projectors off Amazon and then we redid our whole stage, paint walls, etc...so it took about 3 weeks. We finally set up the projector and screens this past weekend. I was soooo disappointed and shocked by the brightness of the color. Our front projectors at half the lumens and the price were a lot brighter. I checked with Amazon and it's too late to return projectors. Do you think I'm missing anything? We went into settings and set. Our stage lights in our auditorium are not bright. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
Did you get this issue resolved?
@@churchmultimedia5230 No, just using it as is.
@@churchmultimedia5230 any suggestions?
@@stevenmcknight161 I've had issues before with projectors due to cables. I had to use signal boosters and that made a huge difference. Your screen material could also be the issue.
@@churchmultimedia5230 Ok. I got the grey ones you suggested. Should I try a different screen? Thanks for your reply.
We have a small congregation averaging 5 - 8 people whose average age is probably 48 years old. We have a pull-up movie projector screen on a tripod stand and have been using an old overhead projector but the projector just died today. We've been give an old epson projector that hooks up to a laptop. I tried putting the lyrics onto song pages and projecting them like we did with the overhead but the words are too small from the projector and we'd like to be able to project the words one line at a time. What would you recommend? We have no money to spend so it would have to be simple. Thanks
Hi Jake thanks for this video. Very I formative. Question, how far back from the screen do you need to put the projector. Our church has limited stage space
Go to 7:25 in the video. Only a few feet.
It's a short focal length projector. As you can see, image is projected from the top of the device. Quite close to the screen ;)
Is the focus ok for a 16’ wide screen? The ViewSonic specs suggest the projector maxes out at about 11’ wide. Thanks.
Same question, with a twist. How does the 16' screen hold up in moderate ambient light?
do you have a link for the projector?
yeah its all in the toolkit!
wawo
Help! Having difficulties with a hdmi run on a brand new Mac mini. will not extend the desktop with the newest version of Propresenter. There is no tech support from anybody that I can find.
Are you sure you're supposed to do that with propresenter? Aren't you supposed to do that through macOS's system preferences?
Do you have any focus issues with the projector? I love the large screen, but am curious since ViewSonic lists the max image size at 150" diagonal.
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. That screen is definitely more than 150" diagonally!
David Ostapuk My church decided to pull the trigger on it after watching the video. The projector is great. As long as you can control house lighting, it’s good to go.
I watched some of the service videos from Mission Lakewood Church and noticed the house is very dark and still the words o the screen are not bright and sharp. It appears the ViewSonic used here is being stretched beyond it's design limits. (214" Vs 150" in the specification)
@@fatkins76 Given a moderate ambient lighting setup, how has that held up? At what point did you found the image to fall apart? Curious for our church setup.
@@bradyholcomb9306 You definitely need it dark behind the screen and on the stage in front of it. I have 4 spots for front lighting that were shuttered down to keep excess light from spilling on the screen. The projector is definitely operating outside of its specs for projection size, but it’s goods enough. Here is what it looked like when we where in a school gym
m.facebook.com/seektherefuge/
cant you just be open in sharing the tool kit! why is everything these days about money! what a generation
Steve, the toolkit is free
Learn NOT to use hand and arm motions when making a video. People will take you more seriously. This is just a fact of life for public speaking and was once regularly taught by English teachers everywhere. Try it. Make a video of yourself talking where you wave your hands around as you normally would. Then make a second video of yourself saying the same thing without moving your hands and arms. View and compare the two videos. You'll clearly see that the video without hand and arm movements comes across much more focused and believable. Eliminating hand and arm motions when speaking by video or in-person greatly enhances credibility to what the speaker is communicating.
Thank you for the great info on a low cost way to construct a video system for smaller churches.
Our projector died 3 days ago, will consider this when we buy new.
Does the website for carls place still work?
When my church was in a cinema, we were lucky, screen, projector and sound is installed, everything set up, we have only to feed it.
I just search about projector for church last week on UA-cam. This video has been helpful. The projector you mentioned here is a little bit a high side for my church any other suggestions within the range of $1000
I dont' know any specific models but look at the specs on the model of the one i suggest here and then shop around for those smaller budget options. I would keep in mind you arent going to get as large or bright of an image.
It depends on your room. You need to ask yourself a few questions.
- Will the room be fairly well lit or dark at most times?
- Does the projector need to be mounted close or far away?
- What is the size of your screen?
If your room is dark and can be mounted anywhere, you can get by with much cheaper projectors. Short throw projectors with a good amount of lumens is typically where it gets pricey.
At my church plant, we had a $1000 6000 lumen Optima projector in a room that was 100% lit up and had direct sunlight coming in, it was mounted about 15-20 feet from the screen and it worked just fine filling a 10-12’ screen from that distance.
We since made some changes to the space and needed to mount the projector closer, so we were forced to sell our projector and we bought a short throw with roughly half the lumens and it was just fine as well. We mounted it roughly 5 feet away from the screen and it cast our 10-12’ image just fine. That projector was also an $800 Optima.
To get it that big at closer distances you HAVE to get a short throw projector or else you won’t be able to get the image large enough.
@@andrewshively6475 please can I know the model of the optimal projector your church sold
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@@andrewshively6475 thanks. How long have you been using yours.
I was hoping for a real budget friendly set up. We are a church plant and maybe have around $300 for both projector and screen. Anyways thanks and I'll keep looking .
The toolkit is misleading or at least for me it was. The link in the toolkit took me to the f24 trusses and 20x20 baseplate. After watching the video again it seems like the f34 trusses are being used. I purchased two f24 trusses and two 20x20 base plates (also in the toolkit) from B&H. These are non-returnable and non-cancelable so beware when purchasing from the toolkit. They are not the same. You need to purchase the f34 trusses and 30x30 f34 base plate, not the f24 trusses and 20x20 base plate that is linked in the toolkit. The f24 trusses are light duty about 8” wide, the f34s are medium duty at almost 12” wide. I blew a big part of our church budget buying what was linked in the toolkit. I wish I would of done more research on trusses before purchasing. Global truss has an online catalog with specs that B&H fail to provide. If I’m wrong please let me know.
Hi Everyone, how do I set up a low budget Live Church Service on multiple monitors and same time Bible verses and some other presentations will be displaying as footages are displaying on screens?
What lights do you use on ur trusses?
How can i set up to show on screen what a verse a preacher is saying? Or things they are talking about? If that makes sense or what is this called?
7:20 - What happen to the audio?
I just noticed that. Looks like my amazing editor decided to paste some EQ settings from the music onto my voice lol. woooops
That makes more sense
i need help for an african trip i tried setting appmnt but could not since i dont have a url
Where are you setting the projector? I was wondering if you are just putting it on the stage? Also, do you know of a cheaper option for the projector.
This is great information. Thank you for sharing.
Nice video, nice tips, nice system ;) be blessed!
This is an awesome tutorial. Much needed for small congregations who would like to upgrade their stage. Thank you for sharing.
Do you not use a confidence monitor? For the singers and speakers to see the content the congregation sees.
Good information. I'm with our church video team,and We are looking at upgrading our stage presence for our church. And we need a good projection screen.
2:42 the video begins
Question, how many feet are there between the trusses that mount the screen?
Thank you for posting this!
How do you sync litekey and prop resented
Use the ProPresenter MIDI module or Ableton Live!
Informative, thank you! You mentioned you put the projector behind the screen. I looked up the projector you mentioned and it does not specify that it is for rear projection, does it matter or can you use any projector in the front or back? The place you would need to specify is just the background material? Thanks for all the great info.
Hey, I had the same question. Did you ever figure it out l?
@@Mauriciorubioarias we use this exact setup and it works great with rear projection