"SUFIS VS. SALAFIS!" - Baraka Boys Podcast (Season 2, Ep.5)

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
  • Sectarianism is something most of us will experience at some point in our Islamic journey. With everyone appealing to the authority and legitimacy of their group above all, it can become confusing for young Muslims to decide which group to join, or if they should even join a group at all. We break down some of our personal experiences with different Islamic groups, and try to offer a way out of the false dichotomy presented to many Muslims.
    This season we're taking the podcast to a whole new level. You can watch this episode over on the brand new Baraka Boys UA-cam channel. The podcast is also now available as an audio podcast on Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 291

  • @TheFurchow
    @TheFurchow 4 роки тому +20

    growing up as kids we didnt even know what sect we were, there wasnt much choice so every muslim in the borough showed up to the same mosque. It was only later that we clocked our parents were from different sects. Many of our fams are hella religious: as in turn the TV off when the sun sets religious... but as long as you pray namaz, fast and hold yourself morally accountable it's chill. For me i think individuals have just gotta keep it simple, and if you wanna do extra stuff that's on you. We keep comparing ourselves to other muslims, and living in that bubble make people get semantic (is that the word?)... I'm gonna listen to the rest of this vid now, hopefully i gain some new info about these factions. I'll update the comment when im done, bless

  • @arandomhandsomeman7725
    @arandomhandsomeman7725 3 роки тому +24

    The 2 guys that played devils advocate really saved this. Everyone else was clearly sufis that hate salafis.

    • @AfriasporaFilms
      @AfriasporaFilms 6 місяців тому

      Subhanallah, that ratio 4 to 2 pretty much reflects the consensus of the ‘Ulema, but in reality it’s probably more like 8 to 2, or even 9 to 1.

  • @ernesttomic3250
    @ernesttomic3250 Рік тому +4

    This is a really good discussion. It seems you haven't made more videos in the last two years, which is sad, but you have others which I look forward to watching.

  • @BuNu7
    @BuNu7 4 роки тому +9

    Differences aren't always about sources but about interpretation. That's something that wasn't discussed. Great discussion brothers.

  • @tariq2835
    @tariq2835 5 місяців тому +2

    This podcast was ahead of his time. Revive this channel and run the topic back again now that’s it 4 years later and inshallah we are older and wiser.

    • @faithesprit81
      @faithesprit81 3 місяці тому

      Where did they go?

    • @t-4579
      @t-4579 Місяць тому

      💯

    • @t-4579
      @t-4579 Місяць тому +1

      @@faithesprit81think each just does their own thing and prob doesnt have time to it again although iA they do

  • @smvvh
    @smvvh 4 роки тому +31

    The major difference is that one group, the saved one, follows the Prophet pbuh by how the Sahabah used to follow his Sunnah and worship Allāh swt alone with sincerity and no partners and have correct aqeedah.
    And the other groups make stuff up (Bidah), follow his/hers desires, commits shirk (magic, wrong aqeedah, superstition etc)
    The Salafis are Salafis because they follow the Salaf as Saalih (pious predecessors, first three generations if I’m correct) as how they used to follow the prophet pbuh, and whose a better example (after the prophet pbuh) than the ones who lived during his pbuh time? They were the ones that understood the Sunnah of the prophet SAW better than us!
    Lots of groups claim to be Salafi and yet at the same time have wrong beliefs (Aqeedah), commit shirk or Bidah etcetera.... I can go on-and-on about this.. if you want more information or any proof then let me know.
    What’s important here is to learn about Aqeedah so you can differentiate the truth from the falsehood and see whose really upon the Sunnah+has sound Aqeedah and whose not.
    FYI: Sunni, Salafi, ahlul Hadith etcetera are all the same
    May Allaah guide us and make us steadfast upon the deen, Ameen!
    حَسْبُنَا ٱللَّهُ وَنِعْمَ ٱلْوَكِيلُ

    • @11Metalface
      @11Metalface 4 роки тому +11

      "I ONLY FOLLOW THE SALAF"
      Yet you constantly quote Ibn Taymiyyah who lived centuries after the Salaf - meanwhile Abu Hanifah (died 150 AH), Malik bin Anas (d. 179 AH), Ash-Shafi'i (d. 204 AH), and Ahmad bin Hanbal (d. 241 AH) lived during the first 300 years hijri. But somehow Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 724 AH) knows the Salaf better than the Salaf themselves, huh?

    • @subym
      @subym 4 роки тому +1

      @@11Metalface There is no one in our history with the aqeedah of these so called salafis, even Ibn Taymiyyah, they would call him a bidati if he was alive today.

    • @akzino6639
      @akzino6639 4 роки тому +1

      @Witness Truth do you even know what aqeeda entails you joke man things like this became a necessity to help people not fall into your dumb sects!

    • @Sam-ng3of
      @Sam-ng3of 4 роки тому +2

      Congratulations on regurgitating the same old reductive and grossly oversimplified cliches that paint islam as something so clear cut in and bid'ah as clear cut.

  • @FallenWarriorXV
    @FallenWarriorXV 4 роки тому +4

    As a recent revert this hit home. JazakAllah Khair! Keep up the good work.

  • @Munirah823
    @Munirah823 4 роки тому +14

    I agree with what mustafa said at 31.56 we need to agree on treating each other with dignity and respect. 🎯

  • @blessedvisionary372
    @blessedvisionary372 4 роки тому +10

    The guy with the teddy bear smashed it mashAllah. Really insightful

    • @oaktutor1154
      @oaktutor1154 4 роки тому +1

      Lol. I went scrolling down just to see if someone was going to say something about the teddy bear 🧸 😂

  • @em1694_
    @em1694_ 4 роки тому +3

    We need more of this in the Muslim community. Mashallah. More unity. Less division. We all believe la ilaha il Allah.

  • @aminulhussain2751
    @aminulhussain2751 4 роки тому +7

    24:00, We as Muslims being brought up in this country should study the Deen and become those Imams that speak English, not expect a foreigner to come in and lead as Imam because their level of English won't be good.
    I'm not saying foreigner's shouldn't come here and be Imams, I'm saying the locals needs to train themselves up and lead the community.

  • @Islamic_content532
    @Islamic_content532 9 місяців тому +3

    Sufis are genuinely real people of Islam

  • @marahelhassan6258
    @marahelhassan6258 4 роки тому +18

    Faisal mashallah tabarakallah. Nail on the head! Once again
    Long time follower and I highly appreciate you guys. This was a much needed conversation. I got light bulbs all over. God bless all of you

    • @muhammad3274
      @muhammad3274 3 роки тому

      MashaAllah so amazing that what he says aligns with your desires. Most of These man summed up are do whatever you feel like doing. Islam is through following the sunnah not the baraka boys so grow up you little fangirl.

    • @marahelhassan6258
      @marahelhassan6258 3 роки тому

      @@muhammad3274 I hope that made you feel better about yourself.

  • @shoislam2729
    @shoislam2729 4 роки тому +3

    Mashallah brothers, I'm really happy to hear all your well thought out discussion, may Allah reward you all immensely ameen

  • @أحمد-ث4ه4د
    @أحمد-ث4ه4د 4 роки тому +3

    You guys really enlightened I loved the discussion , Love you guys from Yemen ♥️✌️

  • @TheGrmany69
    @TheGrmany69 4 роки тому +1

    Yo this was what I was looking for, it's really confusing all this lines and groups calling each other all the time. Thank you.

  • @muhammad3274
    @muhammad3274 3 роки тому +7

    Sorry, I agree with the points that some Muslims are intolerant and are harsh, but I’ve followed some of these brothers on socials. Unfortunately they lack knowledge and shouldn’t be talking on such a matter. Especially speaking on the religion on a public platform. Some of you need to be called out for being clowns. If you want to have a discussion why not sit with people of knowledge and from a separate sect. You can’t sit and spout your wishy washy I feel like this or I feel like that with no basis. Music videos and reposting girls dancing, and hanging out with girls and posting it on socials ruins your credibility. How are you qualified to speak when you do such things. If you know such things are haram and you do it publicly and share it, then you don’t have shame and are openly sinning and therefore not someone who should be talking on such matters . If you are not aware this is sin, then you should also be not talking as you are ignorant. The reason you deny most of the sunnah is because it’s not enjoyable or you don’t ‘think’ it’s right and you are influenced by your environment. No one is perfect, and most of you in the video are known to do certain things which is fine, but don’t talk on the deen of Allah, when you don’t know jack and clearly prioritise your desires. You are not qualified to have an opinion. Go check who they follow on insta if you don’t believe me. I agree that no one is perfect but there’s enough red flags about some of these man that taking pics with scholars or so called saints or writing inspirational bs quotes. Brother you may have a nice voice but doesn’t make you close to god. Adele has a nice voice. Sin if you will, but do not speak on what is haq.

  • @HDB241
    @HDB241 6 місяців тому +2

    Salafiyyah is just following the way of the prophets and companies.

  • @alqubrusia
    @alqubrusia 4 роки тому +33

    So salafiyyah is just "harsh" and aggressive? Subhan Allah. I agree a lot of salafies can be harsh. But sometimes these people dont even have knowledge and thus give salafiyyah a bad name. And yes I must admit its a bit hectic over there in the UK in terms of all these refutations etc. But too many generalisations here.
    Let's call a spade a spade: Sufism and other groups have a lot of deviancy. So O Muslim brother and sister, research your deen.
    And please, don't ever refer to salafi dawah as a "sexy" dawah movement. Seriously.

    • @hadithdisciple7344
      @hadithdisciple7344 4 роки тому +4

      What Deviancy does sufism itself have within it?

    • @Ccccccgggggggjj
      @Ccccccgggggggjj 4 роки тому

      both movement have no chance when it comes to reason and philosophy. especially sufism has no chance to be 100 certain that islam us true religion. And on the other side the ahadith which claims so true are not even proofe in real life but they will be believed like 100% truth like for salafies in a literal way .
      in 100 years there will only dumb believers exist when both movements only growths. but in the end every kind of ways has also good things .

  • @leboiboiboi
    @leboiboiboi 3 роки тому +6

    Wow this comments section is literally proving these guys' points. "Salifiyyah is the haqq", "wahabis are no different than ISIS", Like really? What has this ummah come to?

    • @elzika739
      @elzika739 3 роки тому +5

      @Aaliyah Powell that’s extreme sufis why are you slandering Sufis, every sect has its liberalists, extremists, conservatives....

    • @moesephxd91
      @moesephxd91 4 місяці тому

      Doesnt the salafi view point kind of conjure up that way of thinking?

  • @abdelbaasit1
    @abdelbaasit1 4 роки тому +1

    Enjoy listening to you guys! 👍🏼 Thanks for the open conversations.

  • @shahinaayub5766
    @shahinaayub5766 3 роки тому +17

    Sufisim is purification of heart
    Fighting with ur ego

    • @ashaabdul2561
      @ashaabdul2561 3 роки тому +3

      It is indeed

    • @elzika739
      @elzika739 3 роки тому +2

      @Aaliyah Powell that’s extreme sufis why are you slandering Sufis, every sect has its liberalists, extremists, conservatives....

  • @lamalama1609
    @lamalama1609 4 роки тому +6

    Amazing discussion! Thank you guys ! May Allah bless you and grant us Jannah

  • @Harun-cd6jz
    @Harun-cd6jz 4 роки тому +13

    3/4 of the video was spent bashing Salafis and the last 1/4 was spent praising Sufis and Shia. So in the end, the main point was to support the people of deviation against the people fighting innovation.
    The Prophet saws said in a clear hadith preserved by Imam Muslim in his Sahih that Allah swt never sent a Prophet except that he had disciples who learned from him. Then people came after them who did what those disciples did not do and taught what they had not taught. Whoever strived against these men with his hand then he is a believer. Whoever strived against them with his tongue then he is a believer. Whoever strived against them in his hear then he is a believer. After this, there is no iman.
    The Prophet saws was talking about the innovators and those who oppose them and the reward of being a mu'min. Yet people nowadays want to defend them which is the absolute opposite of that narration.

    • @makeitseventoday
      @makeitseventoday 4 роки тому +2

      Were you there in medina so u know exactly what the salaf were doing? Your whole ideology is based on conjecture and falsehood. Sufis are the true muslims

    • @97hv79lnvc
      @97hv79lnvc 4 роки тому +5

      BarakAllahu feek akhi, they can bash and slander the people upon salafiyyah but all they have is opinions no proofs. This guy said prophet never didnt teach aqeedah that's an blatantly lie. And the sahaba was upon on aqeedah and one manhaj. Fiqh is not our issue with ahlul bidaah rather is the aqeedah foremost. may Allah protect us.

    • @makeitseventoday
      @makeitseventoday 4 роки тому +2

      @@97hv79lnvc the people of ahlul najd/ fake salafis are the fitna of this era and planted by the devil mr wahab himself. The wahabi/saudi complex is solely responsible for slandering and tarnishing the name of the Prophet and misleading the youth. Your aqeedah is made up and against the Quran. If you want to believe God has literal hand and a shin and eyes.....go ahead and follow satan.....subhannalh he amma yushrikun (holy is Allah far above that they associate with him). Go back to najd and do pooja at wahab's grave.

    • @97hv79lnvc
      @97hv79lnvc 4 роки тому +2

      @@makeitseventoday so when Allah describes himself with hands , we shouldn't believe? Your the one resembling Allah to his creation before you reject that he has hand and face. Before you reject you resemble, and Allah said leysa kamithili Shay . You resemble Allah my friend. You haven't read the Quran I'f you say our aqeedah oppose the Quran. Read the books of Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab rahimahullah read it and you see if he is a deviant person or not. I'm not from Najd my friend. Allah yahdik

    • @makeitseventoday
      @makeitseventoday 4 роки тому +1

      @@97hv79lnvc Your arguments have been refuted by the ummah for hundred of years. Your fitnas proper name is ahl-e-hadith, and using saudi oil money your fitna has deceived the uneducated illiterate in poor countried, destroyed communities, destroyed the reputation of Islam around the world and spread hate, extremism and division. If this is not the fitnah, then what is? The only bidah that matters is the bidah of aqeedah of ibn taymiah, giving God hands, eyes, and shins (la hulwala wuwata ila billah). May Allah protect us from these crazies and provide them with the help they need.

  • @AHWAProductions
    @AHWAProductions 3 роки тому +2

    This deserves part 2

  • @bilalsiddiqui2177
    @bilalsiddiqui2177 4 роки тому +7

    Majority of the Ummah follows Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah (The sect of the mainstream moderate majority probably over 90%), They follow the 4 Imams of Islamic Jurisprudence (Fiqh) (Usually follow one but consider all of them and the opinions in the schools to be perfectly valid). These are the Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi and Hanbali Schools. Additionally they follow the 2 Imams of Creed (Aqeedah), Imam Ashari (ra) and Imam Maturidi (ra) because their views have been the views of the believes of Ahle Sunnah wal Jamaah for centuries. Most groups in the world follow this but have minor differences with each other which really aren't a big deal if you look at them objectively. We definitely shouldn't be going round like some Takfiris from any group do calling people kafir, mushrik or out of Ahle Sunnah wal Jamaah since who are we to judge👍👍👍

    • @salahaddin1824
      @salahaddin1824 4 роки тому

      Bilal Siddiqui majority of Muslims follow Athari too don’t lie most people don’t follow Maturidi

    • @Harun-cd6jz
      @Harun-cd6jz 4 роки тому +2

      @Witness Truth The Athari creed refers to people who take their aqeedah from the text. The word Athar means "narration". When you say that Athari creed was not revealed by Allah swt, that's incorrect it goes against the meaning of being Athari.
      As for the Asharis and Maturidi creeds, they are creeds named after men --- Abu Hasan Al-'Ashari and Abu Mansur At-Maturidi. These are 3rd century men. They are based off of kalaam (philosophy). You cannot compare it to the Athari creed. Abu Hasan Al-'Ashari was Mutazili for half his life until the age of 40 and the Mutazilah are a deviant sect. That's a historical fact

    • @faisalawan1680
      @faisalawan1680 Рік тому

      The views of Imam Ashari and Imam Maturidi were not in line with the salaf of this ummah. They both deviated and used the kalam of Aristotle and Plato (atheists) to explain away the attributes of Allah

    • @ThePiousSalaf
      @ThePiousSalaf Рік тому

      @@faisalawan1680 please provide proof?

  • @soniaevans1
    @soniaevans1 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve been recently watching these brothers, they are doing them well. No ones knowledge is perfect, we are all trying. It’s so easy for people to jump down these brothers backs, please ask yourself why. It’s peoples negative intentions with deep rooted jealousy, racial hatred and their own self projected hate, which puts down brothers and sisters. Please stop, we can all learn from each other. Let’s stop the division within Islam.

  • @-Ahmed8592
    @-Ahmed8592 Рік тому

    Good discussion so far! May Allah increase them and us all in knowledge ameen

  • @soloist9495
    @soloist9495 4 роки тому +2

    Nice talk
    Good points all round
    We need to focus on the bigger picture
    Uniting over core elements of deen that emphasizes also on character and in being contributing members of society so the light of Islam can enter every home
    The somali guy with teddy bear though
    Manz gotta grow up loool

  • @yusfusra
    @yusfusra 3 роки тому

    Loving and purifying your friendship of /with Allah in spirit and in practice is what worshiping is about.

  • @ctraltdel3558
    @ctraltdel3558 4 роки тому +53

    I find it funny that dude with no knowledge nowadays think they can discuss the deen. This video is a joke. Their ideology is very dangerous.

    • @popo-qc1so
      @popo-qc1so 4 роки тому +5

      CTR+ALT+DEL it’s scary that I found some mistakes in their speech already. So if people that have little knowledge follow the mistakes, then it would be on these guys heads

    • @hopsie9983
      @hopsie9983 4 роки тому +8

      Then why did you watch this video? Why even bother to comment? Ignore and move on with your life if that's your conclusion. Don't like your hate blind you so much.

    • @ctraltdel3558
      @ctraltdel3558 4 роки тому +13

      @@hopsie9983 I watched it hoping to benefit. I commented because we need to make clear that this type of idea should not be followed. Don't comment if you can't benefit.

    • @blessedvisionary372
      @blessedvisionary372 4 роки тому +8

      CTR+ALT+DEL... bro read your comment. You literally condemned the whole lives of 6 adults. Imagine that. You watched 45 minutes of the lives of 6 adults ... lets imagine these brothers are about 30 years old.. thats about 15 million hours of existence for one of them, multiply that by 6 people... thats almost 100 million hours... you watched less then one hour of there discussion and you have made conclusions and accusations without any refute just telling people “dont watch this” without stating specific points as to why they are wrong and how they can be corrected.

    • @turquoiseturtle4938
      @turquoiseturtle4938 4 роки тому +1

      it’s only dangerous if you can’t think critically for yourself.

  • @ayanaffi119
    @ayanaffi119 4 роки тому +22

    Just follow the Quran and the sunnah. It’s simple. Forget about delving into these insignificant debates.

    • @sarahchoudry9678
      @sarahchoudry9678 4 роки тому +2

      Ayan Affi wow you are truly in need on enlightenment. May Allah guide us all

    • @ctraltdel3558
      @ctraltdel3558 4 роки тому +2

      Especially if the people debating have no knowledge.

    • @ctraltdel3558
      @ctraltdel3558 4 роки тому +7

      @@sarahchoudry9678 He said to follow the Quran and Sunnah and not to argue between Muslims. Is that wrong?

    • @ctraltdel3558
      @ctraltdel3558 4 роки тому +9

      @@Dani-bx9db Did the prophet make sujood to graves? Did the prophet take part in dervishes? Did the prophet dance in the masjid? Did Allah not command you to call on him by his beautiful names? Did Allah and his prophet not simplify the deen which you complicate by adding your innovations? Did the prophet not warn us against shirk? Did the prophet not order Ali to flatten graves? The prophet and his companions practiced zuhd. Zuhd is not when you fill your bellied on mawlid while the prophet fasted. Zuhd is not when you dance and build extravagant tombs for your saints.

    • @farazrehman7283
      @farazrehman7283 3 роки тому

      @@ctraltdel3558 firstly not all sufis do sujood to graves so don't generalise because if you want to genarlise that's like me saying that salafis are terrorist. Of course not all are its just some misguided people. furthermore, the issue of mawlid is something which I always find amusing when it comes to a salafis interpretation of what mawlid is. How can one be angry that people are being happy because of the Birth of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Even the so called dancing thing is another generalisation. finally, remember even Abu Lahab will have a day to be free from suffering because he was happy for the birth of the prophet. imagine the rewards for those who celebrate mawlid

  • @Hamidu
    @Hamidu 4 роки тому +6

    They went there Mashallah

  • @jamescampbell8482
    @jamescampbell8482 2 роки тому

    " we're all too busy focusing on what divides us instead of what Unites us"
    , that's the historical reality of all the abrahamic religions, and even the polytheistic ones.

  • @alishoable
    @alishoable 4 роки тому

    May Allah reward you brothers. These conversations are needed.

  • @sf6510
    @sf6510 4 роки тому +5

    I don't claim any madham(although when looking at what I value, I am probably more inclined to salafi). I think each group looks at the bad extremist of the other. That being said:there are things that are undoubtedly wrong and to stay away from, and honestly I find salafis usually do. For example music(everyone struggles with that) may Allah forgive us. That being said it's nice to hear a different perspective, it's nice to understand before judging. In sha Allah invite someone who is salafi in to your discussions.Allahuma barik you seem like nice young men.

    • @elzika739
      @elzika739 3 роки тому

      exactly! when salafis come talk about Sufi’s they’ll talk about the disgusting EXTREME sufi’s that go to graves etc. and Sufis that call out extreme salafis and call them all wahabis. Like it’s crazy.

  • @aishaali3537
    @aishaali3537 4 роки тому +39

    Faisal with teddy bear I can’t 🥺🥺🥺🥺

    • @kaisersoze8199
      @kaisersoze8199 4 роки тому +4

      It's just weird

    • @azreal629
      @azreal629 3 роки тому +1

      @@kaisersoze8199 lol no it wasn’t he was just chilling

  • @cissemahamed2028
    @cissemahamed2028 4 роки тому +9

    may allah guide these brothers!

  • @Mrabs1981
    @Mrabs1981 4 роки тому

    Very refreshing, this mentality is what is needed move forward. The different sects have more in common then differences

  • @منى-م5ض
    @منى-م5ض 3 роки тому +1

    “رَبَّنَا لَا تُزِغْ قُلُوبَنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَيْتَنَا وَهَبْ لَنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْوَهَّابُ”
    (They say): "Our Lord! Let not our hearts deviate (from the truth) after You have guided us, and grant us mercy from You. Truly, You are the Bestower."
    Surah Āl ‘Imran
    Verse 8

  • @iimazenn
    @iimazenn 4 роки тому +2

    full respect for what u man are doing

  • @zainabismail6982
    @zainabismail6982 4 роки тому +11

    Best podcast so far mashaAllah.
    In my opinion, salafiyyah is a stepping stone for many new muslims (or new praticing Muslims). And it’s fine because salafiyyah is very straight-forward and rigorous. The salafis teach a simple Aqidah and avoidance of Shirk and that’s great. It is healthy to start with that and then evolve into Tasawwuf and the nuances of Fiqh and Aqidah.
    Salafis are doing a good job of Dawah for the most part, even though the extremists among them are harming the Deen and people’s life a great deal.

    • @OrtegaSeason
      @OrtegaSeason 4 роки тому +1

      Do you think the Salafis see themselves as a “stepping stone”?

    • @fifafreebies8941
      @fifafreebies8941 4 роки тому +2

      Salafism is a takfeeri Kharji mujassimah movement
      You should watch a series called “divine lightning” on UA-cam

    • @zainabismail6982
      @zainabismail6982 4 роки тому +6

      DeCipher They do not see themselves as ‘stepping stone’ but from my experience and other people I know, we did turn to the deen thanks to the Salafiyyah dawah. And then we evolved to a more spiritual Islam. Neither Salafis nor Sufis should have self-righteous and think they are reached the highest level of Islam possible.
      Learning and improving one’s religiosity is a must.

    • @alqubrusia
      @alqubrusia 4 роки тому +2

      Totally disagree

    • @NisCho754
      @NisCho754 4 роки тому +4

      Zainab Ismail
      Salamualaiykum sister, I agree 100% with what you said.
      Salafism in my eyes is at least very straight forward and what I love the most is that no culture it mixed in, everything is referred back to Allah subhana wa ta’ala has ordered and what our Prophet sallalahu alaiyhi wa salam and his Sahabas has preached, basically Qur’an and Sunnah. Tho some salafis are (as well as Sufis) can get extreme to a point where they only see themselves as the righteous. But can’t deny that just like you I turned to the deen through the dawah that our Salaffiyah brothers and sisters are giving.

  • @dontoni8041
    @dontoni8041 3 роки тому +13

    23:05
    Salafis: Lets all unite on the truth (Quran & Sunnah)
    The rest: Secterian is the problem. Lets all unite with our differences 23:20
    These brothers need to invite Shamsi in there. It would be much more interesting debate 😁

    • @rachet4280
      @rachet4280 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah man he would’ve cooked there doubts in seconds

    • @danielacevedo647
      @danielacevedo647 2 роки тому

      Salafis don't want to unite the world on truth. They want to unite the world on THEIR truth. There's a difference. The modern Salafi movement is most definitely deviant .

    • @MBeats27
      @MBeats27 2 роки тому +2

      Shamsi is a saudi lover

    • @hass316
      @hass316 10 місяців тому

      no debate, nobody would of got a chance to speak

    • @BuNu7
      @BuNu7 2 місяці тому

      12:10 Aqeedah is the main point. Why can't people comprehend that?

  • @MrRiz157
    @MrRiz157 4 роки тому +5

    I think these sort of discussions are not for the layman to be having. It's like the blind leading the blind.
    Ignorance breeds ignorance.
    Let the scholars share their views.

  • @rokiatoudiaby7079
    @rokiatoudiaby7079 4 роки тому +4

    1- Good caractère
    2- finding excuses for one another
    3- This deen is global in a sens of community but also individual!
    We have our fitra that I think help each one of us navigate in all those different opinions! Allah adresse a message to us! Let not kill our fitra! And rely on Allah. An imam told us once in our training session that those who have humility and sincerity will not be lost Allah will guide them to the truth in one way or another Muslim or not!!!
    4- Shaykh Hamza Youssouf said ( I am paraphrasing) we can’t question Islam but we have to question our understanding of Islam.
    5- last but not least let have the sincere intention to look for the truth. Our truth may not be THE TRUTH! I think that’s why Islam is a journey and not a destination! Let not get lost by our ego!
    May Allah guide us, and make us sincere, humble, patient,...!

  • @bashiirabdulmumin71
    @bashiirabdulmumin71 4 роки тому +2

    I think the brother in camo is right. Its difficult to sustain a level of extremism in anything. This is a scientific fact in human beings.

  • @immilarussoarchive5526
    @immilarussoarchive5526 4 роки тому

    first time watching this,good work for real.keep it up inshallah

  • @windfal7
    @windfal7 4 роки тому +1

    Assalamu alaikum wrwb. Brilliant session. Hope to see more such interactions. Love and respect ❤️❤️

  • @kakeshi3990
    @kakeshi3990 3 роки тому +3

    He used ibn hazm as hujjah for weakening that hadith lol but when more qualified muhadiths have deemed it as authentic he rejects them. I think he can't comprehend the hadith so he's looking for minorities who reject it. Ibn hazm is rejected in these matters because he was not as qualified as other ulama

  • @UsmanDanFodioSokoti
    @UsmanDanFodioSokoti Рік тому

    I feel like a lot of salafis have calmed down on this now and we're seeing more salafi sufi unity under the sunni umbrella

  • @soniaevans1
    @soniaevans1 4 роки тому

    It’s so true, we think way too much on division, rather than co-existing as Allah planned

  • @ChuckAmadi
    @ChuckAmadi Місяць тому

    Agnostic Christian, Watch various faith podcats to get an understanding why Islam is followed and upheld.
    Still confused tbfh. Thank god, I've been raised to take the basic human tenets (right from wrong) and see through the mumble jumble that's caused havoc in todays society.
    Keeping it real. Noone is my superior and I treat people how they treat me.
    Wish you guys all the best. Unfortunately there's another side to your faith.

  • @qasimakram8595
    @qasimakram8595 4 роки тому +2

    I was focused on Khaled falling asleep than the actual video 😂😂

  • @rayman0161
    @rayman0161 4 роки тому +1

    Prejudgment made me not want to watch this video but thankfully i was wrong , very refreshing video mashallah

  • @ytripsastar
    @ytripsastar 3 роки тому +1

    I wish i was able to join this discussion nice peaceful and informative.

  • @positivevibes4752
    @positivevibes4752 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful stuff. Keep up the good work

  • @truesametic165
    @truesametic165 Рік тому

    Salaamu alaikum bro. I agree there are no monopolies in islam.

  • @aslam4923
    @aslam4923 4 роки тому +3

    Good podcast bhai, please give za microphones to each person very hard to hear 👂

  • @wahabinajdislayer2487
    @wahabinajdislayer2487 4 роки тому +3

    Ibn Umar reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) as saying:
    The similitude of a hypocrite is that of a sheep which roams aimlessly between two flocks. She goes to one at one time and to the other at another time.
    [Ref: Sahih Muslim 2784 a In-book : Book 51, Hadith 20, USC-MSA web (English) : Book 38, Hadith 6696 (deprecated)]
    _____________
    As you can see here you can not travel between diffrent sects. You are Either Sufi (Sunni) or a Salafi (Wahabi). And there is no compromise with the Salafi hijackers of Islam or the bad innovators

  • @MR-by2ei
    @MR-by2ei 4 роки тому +4

    When we say Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), we then say peace be upon him

  • @thinq3388
    @thinq3388 4 роки тому

    Mashallah, this was a nuanced discussion

  • @nahreallybro464
    @nahreallybro464 3 роки тому +2

    I think one of the most important prespectives is the one of Imam Ghazali who says its actually 73 sects in heaven and 1 in hell. His explanation is really intresting. This is from faysal al-tafriqa

  • @Sunii565
    @Sunii565 3 роки тому +1

    Which sect is the teddy bear with?

  • @faisalawan1680
    @faisalawan1680 Рік тому +1

    Majority of this discussion was based on differences of interpretation. Why don’t you go back to the books of the Salaf and study them. In fiqh, yes there are differences. But I can guarantee you will not find any differences in their core beliefs of the religion. The salaf were united upon the same understanding/interpretation of the Quran and sunnah as the companions and Muhammad pbuh were upon.

  • @mmaghribi2519
    @mmaghribi2519 4 роки тому +7

    How are you speaking about the deen while wearing a earring and holding a teddy bear at your big age. Let alone talking about Islam when you make drill type of songs and add our deen into your lyrics. May Allah guide you lot

    • @faithsparkles801
      @faithsparkles801 3 роки тому +1

      Why , do you have to have an angry face on and an Arabic cultural dress?

  • @Athawri
    @Athawri 2 роки тому +1

    if watering down the deen was a video:

  • @resulfuruncu1952
    @resulfuruncu1952 3 роки тому +1

    They say dont judge a book by the cover, but I’m having trouble here... I’m unable to stop judging this book by the cover. Theres a saying, either be and act the way you look. Or look the way you act and are.

    • @factsoverfeelings815
      @factsoverfeelings815 3 роки тому

      Tbh this is a serious issue the algorithms push for feminine behavior out of men no bass in my man's voice such a shame

  • @capturedbenefits
    @capturedbenefits 4 роки тому

    قال ابن دقيق العيد. "يقولون هذا عندنا غير جائز، فمن انتم حتى يكون لكم عند؟!" Ibn Daqeeq al Eiid said “ they say this to us is not permissible or not allowed, but who are you for you to even have say”

  • @zccau2316
    @zccau2316 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @ayanaffi119
    @ayanaffi119 4 роки тому +2

    You have to take the time to educate yourself and read the Quran whether through Arabic or through translation first . I agree, faith should be simple.

  • @NAaaa960
    @NAaaa960 4 роки тому +1

    I know we shouldn't really put ourselves in a sect as long as we're muslims etc...but aren't some sect misleading? And shouldn't people be aware there are sects out there that aren't exactly following the right path such as shia and ahmadiyyah sect?

  • @_AH216
    @_AH216 Рік тому +1

    Brothers It’s very misleading to compare valid ikhtilaf in fiqh to ikhtilaf in aqeedah. It’s not the same thing, I doubt it’s intentional, that’s why it’s best to seek knowledge before speaking on such matters. May Allah increase us all in ilm.

    • @dinfakhrudin4055
      @dinfakhrudin4055 7 місяців тому

      Ameen bro, when it comes to topics like this it's important we seek knowledge before we start discussions like this where brothers are confusing differences in aqeedah with differences in fiqh

  • @TerrorBite1
    @TerrorBite1 4 роки тому +5

    Agree 100% with briggs

  • @amir123786
    @amir123786 4 роки тому +4

    Salafis are true sunnis. Salafi stick to what Allah said.
    Every other sect from what I see brings doubts innovation shirk and other weird things

  • @clofette1133
    @clofette1133 4 роки тому +2

    Even the sufis must to use chariah...we are the same...salafis must to know what sufi is to be more human

    • @Surfacekilla1
      @Surfacekilla1 3 роки тому +2

      Wise coming from those who worship graves

    • @elzika739
      @elzika739 3 роки тому +2

      @@Surfacekilla1 that’s extreme sufis why are you slandering Sufis, every sect has its liberalists, extremists, conservatives....

  • @m.a4664
    @m.a4664 4 роки тому

    We all worship One God and follow the messenger of Allah our prophet (Pbuh) Follow the Quran and Sunnah hav a clean heart help and contribute to Humanity all races be the best version of yourself Be an Ambassador for Islam and Allah knows best Simple we complicate it ourselves..May he Guide us All Ameen

  • @snekjuce
    @snekjuce 3 роки тому +1

    shoo next weeks episdode the brothers gonna have a barbie in his hands,mA

  • @BuNu7
    @BuNu7 2 місяці тому

    12:10 Aqeedah is the main point. Why can't people comprehend that?

  • @mxxn2055
    @mxxn2055 Рік тому

    we will never agree on aqeeda and bida but we need to be decent human beings. this is litteraly liberalism

  • @eyessmile6173
    @eyessmile6173 3 роки тому +1

    Sunni Islam is 1 sect whether ur a sufi salafi or any of the 4 madhabs, they are all 1 sect even tho there are many differences we all follow the sunnah, Yasir Qadhi explains it the best

    • @MuAwiyah_Abu408
      @MuAwiyah_Abu408 2 роки тому

      Yasir qadi a devient dont listen to that fool.

    • @eyessmile6173
      @eyessmile6173 2 роки тому +2

      @@MuAwiyah_Abu408 fear Allah for u might be a deviant urself

    • @jamal7404
      @jamal7404 2 роки тому

      the shia also follow the sunnah, but theyre still considered a sect of their own.

    • @eyessmile6173
      @eyessmile6173 2 роки тому

      @@jamal7404 what sunnah?🤨 Wallahi Wallahi The Prophet SAW praised Abu Bakar as Siddique therefore it is a sunnah to praise Abu Bakar

  • @shirazlodhi836
    @shirazlodhi836 4 роки тому

    More episodes bruderz

  • @maxpain5555
    @maxpain5555 Рік тому

    Few of the guys looked rather uncomfortable when he said the hadith is fabricated. What a claim to make, he has to way better then that when making such a claim about hadith

  • @mxxn2055
    @mxxn2055 Рік тому +1

    if you listen to sufi rappers for religious advise you have lost the plot. They want to force the imaams to speak english. what a joke.

  • @HMS1992
    @HMS1992 4 роки тому +6

    You lot sound like you having doubts about Islam don’t listen to shaytarn!!

  • @marcusaurelius6802
    @marcusaurelius6802 4 роки тому +1

    Did 1 of the 6 muhadith here ever have an onion haircut like a nincampoop?

  • @salihmorta4172
    @salihmorta4172 3 роки тому

    27:00 solid point

  • @user-mw2ye1ot2d
    @user-mw2ye1ot2d 4 місяці тому

    Ikhwaani advice from beginning to end

  • @منى-م5ض
    @منى-م5ض 3 роки тому

    *****Whoever dies with the last words (whose meaning is): "There is none worthy of worship but Allah" will enter Paradise.
    Reference:
    Abu Dawud 3/190. See also Al-Albani, Sahihul-Jami' As-Saghir 5/432.

  • @moctarahmadougouroudja2856
    @moctarahmadougouroudja2856 4 роки тому

    In your intro, its written something like(follow me or burn in hell) do you actually attempt to force people to follow your channel? Why do you want people to follow you so bad(if that's the case)? or how do you say to people who don't end up following you to burn in hell? Based on what? where does Allah tell us that if we don't follow you we go to hell? We don't say who goes to heaven or hell, Allah does and honestly, you having it like that feels so negative, really, and chased me away too. Don't be harsh with people, they won't stick around to listen or be with you

  • @DoomÙNarrBi
    @DoomÙNarrBi 4 роки тому +2

    i love you baraka boys i frome kaolack city

  • @abdullahthebutcher2275
    @abdullahthebutcher2275 4 роки тому +3

    just to let you guys know once you follow the Quran and the authentic sunnah you automatically become a Salafi. because you're trying to follow Mohamed pbuh the sahabas,Tabi‘un, and the Taba Tabi‘in the 3 generations of Islam./// Narrated Zah
    'Imran bin Hussain said, "The Prophet said, 'The best of you (people) are my generation, and the second-best will be those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the second generation." Imran added, "I do not remember whether he mentioned two or three (generations) after his generation. He added, 'Then will come some people who will make vows but will not fulfill them, and they will be dishonest and will not be trustworthy, and they will give their witness without being asked to give their witness, and fatness will appear among them.' "
    .
    those are the Salif what you're trying to follow which makes you a Salafi.
    anything else will be thrown into the fire.Narrated 'Ali:
    We have nothing except the Book of Allah and this written paper from the Prophet (where-in is written:) Medina is a sanctuary from the 'Air Mountain to such and such a place, and whoever innovates in it heresy or commits a sin, or gives shelter to such an innovator in it will incur the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And the asylum (of protection) granted by any Muslim is to be secured (respected) by all the other Muslims; and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect incurs the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted, and whoever (freed slave) befriends (take as masters) other than his manumitters without their permission incurs the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted

  • @zakiber4892
    @zakiber4892 3 роки тому +4

    Wallahi a table surrounded by opinionated juhaal, may Allah guide all of you.

    • @rajosaddex-swayzemitzimo1363
      @rajosaddex-swayzemitzimo1363 3 роки тому +4

      May Allah guide you! You have no right to judge because you will be judged as well...and remember your tongue can give you a first class ticket to hell...I'd watch my tongue and leave the judging to Allah! Salaam!

    • @muhammadabu-bakr421
      @muhammadabu-bakr421 2 роки тому

      @@rajosaddex-swayzemitzimo1363 lol then don't go to court

    • @fencalmari5609
      @fencalmari5609 3 місяці тому

      Let me guess your a Salafi?

  • @allahmyrabirabirabi7085
    @allahmyrabirabirabi7085 4 роки тому +2

    Mashallah brothers another great episode but I don't think you guys touch on sufis.

    • @freespeech8987
      @freespeech8987 4 роки тому +1

      Sufism practices mysticism which is Haraam.

  • @HumbleWordsmith
    @HumbleWordsmith 3 роки тому +1

    Very simply question, how many Sufis have committed terrorist attacks against there fellow muslims? Ask the same question about Salafis and you will get a very different answer.

  • @islamicreminders8153
    @islamicreminders8153 4 роки тому +3

    I follow the way of imam Ahmed Raza Khan but I love sufisim so what’s that then

    • @hadithdisciple7344
      @hadithdisciple7344 4 роки тому +1

      Ahmad Radha Khan is the founder of the Barelvi Sect they are sufis they follow the Naqshbandi, Chishti, Suhrwardi and Qadiri so as a Barelvi you can be a Sufi.
      But aside from that Ahmad Radha Khan was a Fame hungry, Takfiri, Extremist with serious issues in his Deen.

    • @islamicreminders8153
      @islamicreminders8153 4 роки тому

      Hadith Disciple do you have a problem with ala hazart why and where is your proof for this don’t say stuff which you don’t know about

    • @hadithdisciple7344
      @hadithdisciple7344 4 роки тому

      @@islamicreminders8153 Of course I have a problem with him he made Takfir on the Sunnah and he was extreme in his Takfir... I've read his Fatawa he is a dry scholar like any other madrasa graduate he had no substance as a Scholar just a Sufi Tribal man from the Subcontinent who hated more orthodox forms of Islam than his own and he knew this himself thats why he made his name through diving the Muslims with his refutations... Vile Extremist. The proof is in his books read what he said instead of dismissing everybody saying they do not know about him... Ahlus Sunnah study the life of the people we refute not like Ahmad Raza Khan who wrote refutations on people he knew very little about

    • @islamicreminders8153
      @islamicreminders8153 4 роки тому

      Go learn about his life first and then tell me where he graduated from you understand he was a hafiz at the age of 10 my brother you try to that he shows us why he did takfir so quickly and he got it signed from the ulema of the haram so tahmid e iman is a good book which you can read go learn and read his books then am asking you nicely

    • @islamicreminders8153
      @islamicreminders8153 4 роки тому +3

      Hadith Disciple and you think what these people are doing in Makkah is right the concerts and partying 🤣🤣 I will stick with where I am

  • @ATs-yz1xf
    @ATs-yz1xf Рік тому

    Maybe becouse only one of those sects accepted the promised messiah

  • @shirazlodhi4903
    @shirazlodhi4903 4 роки тому +1

    I believe long as you have a good heart n faith doesn't matter what branch you follow nice vid

  • @simonholm1255
    @simonholm1255 3 роки тому +3

    sufi was here first thats fact no one can deny that

  • @shioabhussain899
    @shioabhussain899 4 роки тому +1

    What sunnah are they following my man got an ear piercing and next man got dreadlocks

    • @bayleaf7588
      @bayleaf7588 4 роки тому +3

      Damn.. your anti-blackness really is showing. What's wrong with having dreadlocks?
      (I''m Desi btw)

    • @anikanalohamin1077
      @anikanalohamin1077 4 роки тому +4

      Aaaand clearly its not dread locs...its braids

    • @gingerbreadzak
      @gingerbreadzak 4 роки тому

      @Witness Truth I don't believe eye rings are haram but do uno which companions wore earrings? Just interested. Ik imam Malik apprantly did in his younger days

    • @gingerbreadzak
      @gingerbreadzak 4 роки тому

      @Witness Truth I believe ear rings are halal but as you made the claim how do you know many companions wore earrings just wanted to know?

    • @gingerbreadzak
      @gingerbreadzak 4 роки тому

      @Witness Truth idk if they wore sandals or some other type of footwear I didn't claim they did or didn't wear sandals

  • @boejiden.11
    @boejiden.11 3 роки тому

    2:46 - switched on thinking oh just another wrong depiction of "suffees" being pinpointed by salafees.