So sad and terrifying seeing the photo of them so happy taken hours before they were killed, with them having no idea they only had a few hours of existence left. Awful.
clearly this channel never followed the case, most all evidence against Kohberger has been debunked or "still missing" after 1.5 yrs. This confirms he is 100% innocent.
There was actually a woman on TikTok that literally made HUNDREDS of videos claiming that one of the professors at the university was the real perpetrator. She came to this conclusion because of tarot cards. She was then sued for defamation.
Dude, that lady could have her own timeline!! She made accusations…was proven wrong…doubled down on accusations…got sued…tripled down…counter sued….quadrupled down…lawsuit thrown out…quintupled down….re-sued…sextupled down… etc etc etc
So then why was BK literally driving in the neighborhood exactly at the time of the murders 😑 don’t be an idiot like the rest of these people questioning in BK did it, hell yea his weird ass did it bruh ! His mf prints were on the knife sheath for Christ sakes
I’m a student and resident at the University of Idaho. One thing that really upset me and a lot of other students, faculty, and other Moscow residents, was all the people and internet investigators that treated the case like a money making story they could exploit and involve themselves in. Without thinking of the people involved, or the people affected, the story was (and still is to an extent) treated with disrespect despite a tragedy happening just down the street. Thank you for treating this tragedy involving very real people, with respect. I’ve always loved your channel.
@@ZellofogousEmma B was there and she said JJB ordered the HIT on the house and Idaho4. There are many k*llers involved and Bryan Kohberger was not there. There are three crime scenes at Bandfield, Linda Lane and King Road..
4:32 I feel so bad for this guy since so many “internet investigators” had pinned him as the murderer. Even after the police had officially ruled him out as a suspect, people kept harassing him and calling him a killer. It was disgusting.
What Ashley Guillard did to that professor seemed even worse to me. Even after cease and desist letters. Even after police fully exonerated the professor by proving she did not know any of the victims and was out of state at the time. This attention-whore just kept doubling down. Repeatedly saying the professor did it to cover up an affair or some such crap. All because her tarot cards told her so. And that she just had to tiktok the accusations since only she knew the truth. iirc the courts just recently ruled on the defamation. It did not even go to a jury because she was objectively guilty as a matter of law. So this poor professor had to deal with the fallout, finance her legal case and put up with this lunacy. All so some crazy bint could try to profit off a tragedy.
@@davidh7177 she's the "tiktok psychic" who targeted a university professor because she believed her tarot cards "told her the truth" of the situation it's a pretty big rabbit hole, and the poor professor really didn't need this on top of everything else
There’s a 3D forensic reconstruction of the path the killer took through the house that night. It’s very eerie. It’s one of those things that has stuck with me.
It must be such a strange mix of emotions to be one of the two people who were in the house and remained unharmed. As though the angel of death had passed them by.
Agreed! He is my favorite horror narrator! The mysteries he details and the takes he gives are fascinating, and the atmosphere of his vids suck me right in!
Stumbling across Lazy covering the case where I live was not what I expected today. Loved how you covered the case in this vid! Alot of us are waiting for the trial to start.
I really like how you have evolved your channel. I have been watching for a long time now. You are one of only a handful of channels I truly enjoy! Thanks Lazy.
The prosecution has admitted some weeks ago that the PCA is irrelevant to the case which pretty much means that the case relies on parallel investigation and much of the "facts" in the PCA is in fact not so much a fact. That means the suspect vehicle 1 might have nothing to do with the case and the time line put forward is probably wrong.
At the last hearing Payne admitted on the stand that they have not found Bryan’s vehicle on ANY of the hundreds of videos they had obtained. The whole PCA is a lie. I can’t believe they’re still getting away with this.
@@mikeappleget482 Yeah, they are all falling for a defense lawyer on UA-cam's weird fixation with proving Bryan's innocence not based in evidence but solely on the word of the defense that exculpatory evidence exists. In other words. They believe he was just out looking at stars. They don't think that him cleaning his car with gloves and throwing away trash in other people's trash cans at 4am is in any way meaningful. They don't get it;'s just as wrong to form the conclusion of absolute innocence without actually seeing all the evidence. And they are ONLY basing their beliefs on the filings of the Defense which are not representative of genuine facts, just the defense theory of the case based on what they BELIEVE are the fact. It's the DunningKruger effect meets appeal to authority that is so prevalent in pseudo-intellectual people online. Also, they never said the DNA evidence wasn't important, they just said it wasn't the most important evidence to support guilt. I won't cast him as absolutely guilty, and I am not the court, so I do not have to lend him the concept of innocent until proven guilty, however... I won't convict the man without having all the evidence. Which we do owe the victims to hear out. So these people aren't basing things in fact, they are basing it on their appeal to authority ion the OPINION of a UA-camr Defense Lawyer who takes everything Kohbergers defense says as gospel. As if they would ever release any inculpatory evidence against their client. Of Course, according to the defense the only evidence that exists is exculpatory. That's what a defense lawyer says even after the client is found guilty LOL.
I’m glad I am not seeing negative comments about their roommate who survived. When it’s the middle of the night and there’s random people and noises, it makes sense you wouldn’t automatically assume it’s a murderer. I pray for this woman and I hope everyone supports her moving on❤
@@Melancholycrow ...Did you read the probably cause affadivit or anything the police have released? Because this is very well known. Do you make any attempt to look into anything before you comment?
@@SC-ec8xe do you think before you comment anything? Do you think someone might not be as well researched as you are and just casually browsing? I’m sorry my knowledge of this case isn’t as detailed as yours, maybe try to be respectful to people next time. It’s unfortunate there are people like you out there that can’t even feel inclined to help educate others. Have a day you deserve!
Under Idaho’s legal definition of stalking, he didn’t, that doesn’t mean he didn’t follow them at any point It’s basic legal court wording just like another case would be
Hears someone say “theres someone here” and saying fuck it im just gonna lay back down is crazy. Hearing a unknown male voice in your house at night and choosing to just ignore it is even crazier. Tf was D doing
It’s not like D was at her granny’s house. It was the weekend and she lived in a notorious party pad with 4 other roommates who liked to party. Hearing a dude’s voice and some ruckus going on at night is nothing out of the ordinary. I’ve lived in party houses with a bunch of roommates and complete strangers were always coming and going. And dumb drama and yelling was always going on. Plus, in party house environments where substances are used, you quickly learn to mind your own business.
@@JosephBommerOfficial I know this might be too high a concept for your feeble brain to understand but there's a term called victim blaming and you're doing it. don't act so shocked when people call you on it.
@@mikeappleget482 he's too stupid/undersocialized to take any of that into account. i did the rounds in college when i was in greek life and it's crazy enough as is what goes on at parties without murder involved. people constantly coming in and out of the house, ruckus all hours of the night, and yelling until the sun came up.
I know one of the surviving students as I went to highschool with her. My sister even played on the same soccer team as her. A tragedy of this scale is truly unimaginable. When I saw her post on Instagram about the loss of her roommates, I was in total shock! Horrible.
Who would have known that the girls kept their sliding glass door unlocked? How isn't there any footage of a person entering or leaving the property? All that footage of the parking lot but none of an individual leaving or entering the vehicle? How didn't the screams of the victims wake up the whole house? How wasn't the perp drenched in blood if the bedrooms were? This case is baffling.
Lucky guess, those sliders aren’t often locked by students. He knew where the cameras were and avoided them. The victims didn’t scream because they were surprised quickly and dispatched by a cut to an arterial vein(likely a stab in the side of the neck) where their throat and lungs would instantly be filling with blood so screaming would be impossible. Gurgling maybe. They would be unconscious from blood loss in seconds. He either stayed out of the line of blood spray or changed clothes before he left. All of your questions are easily answered using a bit of critical thinking and looking over what has been released to the public.
@@LuckyStrike01 That is a whole lot of assumption unsupported by any of the facts that have been put forward thus far. Where would his change of clothes have been stashed? And where are the ones he would have needed to take with him when he left?
He had been stalking the house for some time, I think I heard his phone connected to their WiFi something like 7 times in the weeks running up to the crime
@@WillaMunroekept in the car, he was seen in cctv cleaning the car meticulously inside and out afterwards, and disposing of bloody clothing is not difficult in a rural sparsely populated area as he drove back
@@nevadatan7323 The prosecutors stated in court that it was false that he had been stalking them. There has been zero information from the court about him connecting to their wi-fi either. You should read the court documents or watch the hearings instead of relying on internet gossip. It would be quite amazing if he managed to clean his car so well that there was zero evidence in it and zero signs of excessive measures being taken to clean it (including signs of using very strong chemicals, smear marks, etc).
This is crazy...and very sad. And random people making it worse by turning it into entertainment and saying they know what happened...the worst part is that with certain crimes there is no justice, nothing in the world will undo or make it "better". I am surprised this happened not long ago...I really thought this kind of things stopped.
@@coffeecrimegal5968 i believe they are referring to the way this case was sensationalized by the public, mostly on tiktok. there were a disgusting amount of tiktoks of people just theorizing what happened, which in turn started spreading many rumors about who did it and what the cause was. when a horrific murder like this happens, it's important to wait for police to finish their investigation before pointing pitchforks at everyone involved.
@@Lololeelee That’s the nature of the beast when it comes to these types of crimes! People need to a face to see and someone to blame. That said there’s still those of us that although may have an opinion all be it a strong one given the information that’s already been released to the public, we know that there still has to be a trial.
The weirdest things about this are how 4 people could be stabbed to death and no one hears anything and that the police were called like 7 hours after it happened. You see someone in your house and you don’t call the cops and you don’t go check on everybody?? All of that is so weird to me.
a girl sees an intruder in all black and a mask IN HER OWN HOME and you wonder why she is frozen in terror not able to call the cops...you obviously live a sheltered life and have never been afraid for your wellbeing
@@scallopohare9431 i wonder if she thought she was hiding in her room all that time, hard to say without all the details and movement that went on AFTER the killings
@@damianplasencia2708 Well, we do know she did not call 911. It"s easy to say from the autopsy results that the others were beyond help, but SHE DID NOT KNOW THAT.
According to the case she was experiencing an episode of trauma/shock, at that point you're just flying on autopilot and operating on fight or flight reactions. It also doesn't help that the house itself was a frat house with regular parties, and in the video it is mentioned that she calmed down and thought the intruder might have been one of the partygoers just leaving late.
What angers me isn't just the tragic loss of these bright students, but the disgusting idiocy that came after around the case in the internet. Degenerate internet detectives, especially that "tiktok psychic". God it makes my skin crawl
Eight hours after Bryan was busted in PA, the Moscow PD let a cleaning company into the house to deep clean the crime scene. That's either incompetence, malice, or stupidity on behalf of the cops.
The reaction from LE says more about this case than their “theory” which has been proven false in the court hearings. This video is disinformation. This YT created did not do any research.
The PD and FBI had already collected and documented sufficient evidence at that point...there was nothing more to be gained. The house had in fact since been demolished.
@audreycakes478 wrong. No longer an active crime scene and the defense does not need to visit the actual location. They just need access to whatever evidence the prosecutors found there. Nice try, internet lawyer.
Because forensic science has advanced a lot since then. Even for someone studying criminology, it's incredibly difficult to not leave any evidence behind. Especially DNA
There have been 5 more cases that were solved just recently with genetic genealogy. One was 30 years old! I just love seeing the advancement in forensic technology and dna. However, our world is still full of so much evil that the crimes still don't stop.
I hope you've finished work and have watched this by now! Are you local to the area of the crime? This has blown my mind. I feel so much sadness for everyone involved 😞
Nowhere does it say in official records disclosed to the public that the phone was turned off. Not even PCA says that. It only offers possible scenarios, one of which being the phone was out of range which people ignore. According to his defense he was near Wawawai Park at the time. That location has no cell service and cell service in Pullman/Moscow area is spotty. People took one speculative scenario and turned it into a fact. There is so much misinformation in this case, it’s unbelievable
in all fairness, you don’t know what is misinformation as well unless you know the facts, therefore you can’t confidently say what is misinformation and what is not
@@ZellofogousDo you know who Pappa Rogers is? He knows lots of facts about the case. Many think he works for LE. They used to think it was Bryan K but he's not.
@@tamaraterry8683 right, but my point is we just dont know anything to accurately assess what’s really going on. i’ll admit , from the outside looking in, he does look guilty, but if there is a cover up there would have to be over 20 le agnts in on it and i just don’t believe that to be true.
@@Zellofogous Emma B was there and she has talked to Translucent YT for 7 months. Emma said Jesse James Bailey (JJB) ordered the HIT on the house and Idaho4. He called in two cartel leaders to help in the operation and they used frats. Sorority girls and dr*g dealers to do the muders. This is all about dr*g and human trafficking and money laundering. The FBI has a huge trafficking operation going on and Bryan Kohberger is allegedly a federal agent and military asset playing his role as a patsy while the feds work to find all those involved. There are many LE involved in trafficking getting kickbacks. The former homeowners were allegedly involved in dr*g, s3x, child, human, gun trafficking and money laundering. They are rich and powerful and get away with it all. One of them has 445 businesses with over 200 actively involved in trafficking. He's a RSA. The other owns tons of properties and involved in trafficking too. Emma said that King Gonzo owed $700k debt to JJB so he HIT the house because the money was not returned and was lost in XANA and HEX crypto coin scams. The King is the most outspoken parent SG and its time he told the truth. There are many people involved in this and some say there are 4 females and 10 males who did the muders.
9:40 Really? Because it sounds like "D" heard a lot to suggest something terrible had happened. Not to mention, she saw a figure in black leaving at a time of night that a stranger shouldn't have been there. She heard someone say, "Someone's here," heard crying, etc. If I had been her, I probably would be dead. I would have gone to see what was going on. Ain't no way I could have just gone back to bed. Especially after seeing someone leaving like that. I would have definitely called 911. That's wild.
You "forgot" to mention all the absurd things that make absolutely no sense about this case like the fact they didn't call the police and instead invited a load of people into the house to clean up first.
I went to WSU several years ago & drove by that Area at least once per week. For the size of the 2 Towns, there's tons of Police Officers everywhere. However, they were always focused breaking up Parties & arresting Drunk Minors. There were hardly any Detectives & serious Investigations. That's what worries me. The lack of experience, since there's only 1 Murder every 25 years. 😢
Lazy Masquerade, thank you for this clear, cut and dry explanation of this horrendous-beyond-words event. I'll admit that I know the basics of what happened but never took time to dive into it. I saw you uploaded a video about this and decided to dive in with you. Man, NOT the context but the execution of your video was spectacular. Thank you.
You have a ton to learn. This case is so far from cut & dry. They aren't letting the defense see the evidence they claim they have. Its well known that phone pings are meaningless & Bryan was close enough to all the towers that his phone didn't need to leave his house for it to connect to the other town's tower. They changed the year of car they were looking for. They swatted another guy with the same initials as the guy they arrested... They tore the house down before the trial... Parents of 3 of the 4 victims had drug & legal issues...people from the college were involved in stuff... far from cut & dry. The kid who drown in 2 inches of water months before...the venmo payments amonsgt their friends around the time of the deed...
@@andrewjacobs5579 I lost all trust in the local police and the prosecution, especially after the recent hearings. It is unacceptable that someone has been in custody for over 1.5 years, and the "evidence" supposedly proving their guilt cannot be produced. Responsibilities are being shifted between the prosecutor, the MPD, and the FBI because no one wants to admit that the evidence doesn't exist. The prosecutor assumed BK would agree to a deal and exaggerated to increase the pressure. He never expected to present this "case" to a jury. After a change of venue seemed likely, significantly reducing the chances of success, we've heard and seen little from Thompson. Once bold and confident, he sits with a dark purple, lowered head behind his desk, leaving the stage to his overwhelmed colleague.
@@andrewjacobs5579 says the guy spreading misinformation and crap not relevant to the case They didn’t swat the wrong house 3 out of the 4 families wanted the house gone, any of the 4’s families having issues with drugs in the past is irrelevant. The pings are meaningless, says who? You? What Venmo payments? What students involved in what?
@@Romina1907.the FBI is the one holding up the rest of the evidence, because it’s the FBI, they take their time with this To say the FBI is refusing that the evidence doesn’t exist is laughable, pure conspiracy bullshit
Ok I’m watching this with bated breath because I went a little overboard with this case since it happened. I went down all the rabbit holes. I pray half the psychos from those true crime and conspiracy channels don’t find this video… believe me, the engagement isn’t worth the headache that comes with the insane trolls attached to this case. Happy Father’s Day to everyone celebrating btw.
YES! And there are other channels on YT feeding into all of it, drumming up garbage theories just to keep their View Counts high in the "lull" until the trial starts.
Wouldn't the killer be covered in blood? Wouldn't he leave bloody footprints? Wouldn't he leave a blood trail from the third floor to the second floor? Wouldn't there be bloody footprints or blood drops leading to the spot his car was parked? Why was the roommate frozen in fear? Did she suspect something and decided to just go to bed? If I was a defense attorney, these would be a few of the questions I would have to have an answer to.
Bruh the roommate hearing all that seeing the guy and not calling the cops is the dumbest shit. I’m surprised by how many people have 0 situational awareness.
In all fairness if the PCA is irrelevant, why not just let Kohberger go? I do understand how PC works and all that, but if you’re going to use a very very broad and not necessarily specific legal document to arrest someone then turn around and say its useless, why bother having it at all?
These are all legitimate questions that are asked frequently. There are nang subreddits on this topic. I don’t believe for one second DM froze in fear and tge killer(s) justt happened to walk past her without so much as a second glance?
Something also doesn’t sit right with me regarding the timing of the car making a three-point turn on camera at 04.06a and almost immediately after Dylan heard one of her friends say, “there’s someone here.” She then went back to scrolling on TikTok until 04.12, implying that she spent a few more minutes watching videos and THEN stopped at that time. It seems to me that the killer would have to hustle from getting out of his parked car, grab his gear, get mentally prepared for the atrocity he was determined to commit, and reach the second-floor back entrance of the house to make it inside within the span of what was likely less than 90 seconds. The killer remaining uncannily stealthy during such an ostensibly frenzied rush is something I find hard to accept. Especially since the behavior of the driver of the car on camera-presuming it was the killer’s and not just coincidental-would suggest a person struggling with the idea of going through with the act.
@@tonystevenson26Townsfolk are letting the accused killer get his due process of law while laughing at the internet conspiracy theorists coming up with all these different absurd stories and the keyboard clowns that go around spreading these conspiracies in the comments as if they even have a clue.
You might want to catch up on this case and not use tabloid media as your source. Many claims have already been debunked. Many things you’ve listed conflict with the official records coming out of the proceedings
@@Fallout3131 i noticed this too. not sure if it’s a new thing but in his more recent videos, i’ve seen a LOT of people coming forward in the comments and pointing out evidence in these cases as being debunked, false, or stating facts that have been completely glossed over. i have no idea where he’s getting his information from at this point but it seems like he might just be regurgitating articles and news outlets without looking at the LITERAL court documents. 🫠 i’ve been following Lazy for years but i’m debating unsubscribing because this is ridiculous.
This is so crazy every time I hear about this story i still get goosebumps. I live in a small town about 30 mins south of Moscow ID and I used to drive up to the moscow/pullman aread to drive for doordash ALLL the time. When I saw the Pic of the house I realized I had delivered there multiple times!! So sad and crazy, never ever imagined this could or would happen in our small town area. So sad for the families 😭
@10:33 so experts/investigators believe all 4 victims must have been asleep... yet it also states Xana was not only waiting for and received a door dash order at that exact time but that she was also on Tiktok?... it cant' be both!
Murders are presumed to have taken place between 4 and 4 :25 AM. @8:10 it's stated that Xana was on TikTok at 4 :12 whilst her door dash meal was delivered before that. Highly unlikely she fell asleep immediately after, all the more considering two housemates one floor up were being unalived. Such a crazy case. Hope trial starts soon.
What about DNA found a crime scene? I am curious, many people believe he is innocent (possible) but if his DNA was found at crim scene than how is there any doubt about his involvement
@@jitendramalik566 it was like the smallest detectable dna amount possible so it could be unreliable or from transferring across multiple objects. He still could have done it but it isn’t the smoking gun people are acting like it is
It has been more than a year of the prosecution refusing to obey federal law and give the defense the evidence it legally has the right to. Yes, a long time.
@@MinddyMars sorry for insulting your boyfriend, totally real and not fake account created last month with a totally real person in your pfp and not an ai image/stock photo.
Knife attacks are fast and lethal, something I don’t think many people consider. Add in the other circumstances like the time, intoxication, consciousness, and the party house environment and the events become very plausible.
@@scheezy most likely done by more than one person. If you have watched any of the pre-trial hearings, you would have better information to base your beliefs on.
D should have put on her big girl pants and call the police.. she had a least a chance to save her friends, and she failed her friends. Why on earth would you wait on calling the cops.. if you know someone is in the house that is not supposed to be, and your just sitting there, she had her cellphone on her the entire time. extremely disappointed in her
She did not know someone was not supposed to be there. The cops previously told the roommates if they had to come back to the house they were going to give citations. Who would think 4 people are being murdered. And who would call the cops on their roommates?
I beg your pardon. I feel the need to tell you that you should watch the court hearings. You are putting this information out for over 200,000 viewers to see and 90% of it is inaccurate. Even the state admits that there is no stalking. The car in the 7-Eleven picture was not BK. An expert witness who has 20 years experience who helped develop the technology for analyzing the cell phone data is testifying for the defense for the first time in 20 year career. He even says that there is nothing That puts BK even in Moscow at the time of the crime. I’m sorry if you find this offensive. However, it is very irresponsible to put a false information for tens of thousands to see. Now all of these people are going to believe you the other thing the DoorDash driver, there is nothing even in the PCA, which you probably didn’t even read, that says where the food was left. It doesn’t say if it was handed to anybody or left at the door. Please do your research properly. Read the court documents read the PCA, and watch the hearings.
hold up a minute. the killer walked right by one of the girls who lived, she then locked herself in her room with a cellphone, but she didnt call 911 until the morning? um what?
I was traveling thru most Moscow Idaho when this happened. It was eerie like the volume was turned down on life. Everyone was in a state of shock and mourning.
D and B were likely simply not his intended targets. Just before Ted Bundy was finally caught, he entered a sorority house and killed 3 of the 7 girls that were there. But he didn't so much as disturb the other 4 girls. This behavior is likely because, at least in Bundy's case, he targeted brunettes. The 3 he attacked were brunettes, and the 4 he didn't weren't brunettes. I know a lit people question why some were attacked and some weren't. But think this logically: you are a single individual who has broken into a home with intended targets. You've likely prepared yourself for your targets. So why attack non targets? You wouldn't unless you absolutely HAVE to. Fighting with someone in any capacity is exhausting and time-consuming. In Brian's case, he was already surprised by a boyfriend. Though D saw him, she fled instead of confronting him. So again, there is no reason to spend more time and energy in that house. B slept through it so she was never a threat or a target. Simply put, Brian likely was likely targeting those 3 girls specifically. They are similar in appearance blonds. And of the boyfriend was in the way. Also, my understanding is that D and B were brunettes. So unlikely to be targeted considering who he did attack.
Crazy. He got stopped on 12/15, my mom's birthday, and arrested on 12/30, my birthday. But Officer Payne said they didn't have his name until 12/23/22, which unfortunately is the date we lost my baby brother. Sorry, I've always had a thing with dates.
I was 17 when the Gainesville Student Murders happened. It not only is a horrific end to people's lives, but it traumatizes the entire community. That part is rarely ever touched on.
Actually it was not true that he was “stalking them online”. There’s a clip of the judge saying that was false. There a lot that goes behind this whole case. I am not trying to defend Bryan but if you look at this case in both ways and do more research, something isn’t adding up and the police are very sketchy. Keep an open mind. When you question other things then you are in the middle realizing that something is not right.
I just started this video but I'll admit. I'm pretty nervous. I really love this channel, but I have also been following this case meticulously from the start. Bryan is innocent. Hands down. I've never had a single doubt. I really hope this channel doesn't fall down the same smear campaign, propaganda hole as so many other channels and the MSM have. Going by the first few comments I've read though.. I think I'm going to be disappointed. Edit: yeah i cant watch this. I dont think ive ever felt this low about a youtube channel. (Yeah im aware lazy doesnt gaf, but i can voice my feelings anyway). I am honestly questioning his research and integrity now. If I were to start listing the misinformation in tbis video, I would be here all day. Its so funny how people who are adamant about Bryan's guilt claim they care about justice. What a sad joke. What kind of justice? Putting an innocent man to death? You dont care about justice. You care about society seeing you on the "right" side. If you cared about justice you would have already had so many flags appear that cant be ignored lead you into doing your own research, and you would find that whoever did this is still out there - and that isnt justice. It is just so much easier to pretend to be a good person when the media has already found and condemned the "bad guy" already. Actually doing the right thing would take too long and would be too much trouble. I mean.. who wants to do all that right? Its clearly this pale weird "incel" guy who was rejected by these blonde, tan, popular girls right? I mean come on this narrative is too good - why would anyone wanna mess that up? Its a stereotypical good vs bad story. We got him everyone, evil jealous weirdo murdered 3 beautiful young women and one of their fit, handsome, and "totally normal and cool" boyfriends. Its so cut and dry. Case closes. Let the guy fry already!!! Wooo! Justice has been SERVED!!!!... Do you think that sounded stupid? Yeah. Time to look in your mirror. He did not do this, and if you insist that he did - you are choosing to believe a load bullsh*t. You are choosing to ignore the dark reality of the matter, or you are unfortunately just that stupid. Maybe its both!! Man. I really thought higly of Lazy. I dont watch many "true crime" channels as i find most of them self serving, ego driven, artificial and obnoxious. Its really hard to not see hes just after views like the rest. Super disappointing. Oh well. (And if youre someone who wants to reply about my wall of text, youre wasting your time. IDGAF)
I’m disappointed too. I’m hoping the Lazy recognizes that this case is not what’s shown in the media and will take a deeper dive into it to see the truth.
He is Lazy Lazy !!😂😂😂 in court prosecution even stated he didn’t stalk victims and he has Sue Ray why did he not mention the alibi is better than most involved, stupidity is Lazy😮
The coroner stated it was a brutally bloody scene. There was no blood in Bryan’s car or apartment. That’s just crazy if he did the killings! I still believe there were more than one killer. Just think Kaylee had over 50 stab wounds and her face was so brutally beaten in she had to be identified by her teeth. This was spoken by her father Steve. This would have taken time to do plus the STAMIA one person would need it’s almost impossible to believe all four killings were done by one killer.
Why do people NOT call the police?!!!!! Dee saw a guy in black, with a mask and decided AGAINST calling the police..... WHY?!!!!!!! These stories drive me crazy, they drive me crazy. CALL THE FREAKIN COPS!!! This is a situation that they know what to do!!
I've been following this case since day one .. All arrows point to Bryan. I do feel it was a foolish move to demoish the house before the trial. Could have given the jurors an opportunity to see and walk through the crime scene before making thier decision. Dylan and Bethany should take the stand and testify during the trial .
@@JoshSmith-ff8dwno I just read court documents and listen and watch all hearings for the actual FACTS! All the shit spewed in this is from dateline or news nation which seem to skate over the FACTS presented in court! If you knew anything about this case in detail then you’d know that yourself! Justice for the victims isn’t going to happen if they lock up the wrong person!
I live in Washington. Ethan was originally from western WA, a town called Monroe not far from me. The last time I was there I saw that his mother had written a book and was doing a reading of it at a local bookstore. It was really touching to see. These kids will never be forgotten ❤ Edited to add I’ve been to Moscow a few times, the people there are super friendly and welcoming. It seems like a nice community
D originally said she made eye contact with the killer. TWO people fought for their lives and the roommate left alive didn't hear anything? **SHE WASNT ASLEEP, SHE WAS ON HER PHONE. SHE DIDNT GO TO SLEEP UNTIL AFTER SHE LOCKED EYES WITH THE KILLER**
I don’t normally say a case doesn’t feel right, because duh, no murder case is ever gonna “feel right” but there is something still so off about this one. Something is missing, something isn’t being said, idk.
i can see both sides of the case (for guilt or innocents of BK). Two things stand out- the roommate calling 911 many hours afterwards and calling friends to come over first...but also where is the all other dna evidence from massive amounts of blood that would undoubtedly be all over the murderer who had to get into his car and drive. Did they not find a drop of blood anywhere in the car? What about at the crime scene? No hair? Nothing? The murderer was that prepared but left his shealth?
We still don’t know if the source DNA is his. The prosecution used the “Prosecutors Fallacy”, they stated the test itself not the actual results. This isn’t my opinion, it’s on court record and uncontested by the prosecution.
If they don't find Kohbergers DNA in the house, they don't really have him for murder. You can place his cellphone in the area, a car that looks like his in the area, and touch DNA on a sheath that MAY OR MAY NOT even belong to the murder weapon... It's all very suspect, and I do believe a jury will convict if this is all they have, but to me, even the DNA on the sheath does not in and of itself prove murder.
I live across town from where this happened. It's crazy to know it was only 2 miles away from where i was sleeping. My wife and i felt like we had to change up and start being more vigilant, it made us all a bit nervous around town.
My theory is that he was a massive narcissist and when he got ignored he snapped. He decided he would teach these "bitches" a lesson. And as is usually the case with narcissists he thought he was too smart to get caught.
I just need to know why that other girl didn't call?? I can understand being frozen in fear in that moment but not even attempt to call or anything just seems odd.
The more I think about it, why did she call her friends to come over before calling 911. You wake up and see blood everywhere, its a pretty straightforward decision to call 911 at that point. Rather it is reported that she called friends and they came over and one of them called 911.
You have given facts that have not been proven yet. The white Elantra circling around the area most likely is not the killers, it has not been proven, the facts of that car does not match BK's car, wrong year model, it may have been other people or even the DDD. The sighting of the car going from Pullman to Moscow is not the correct car, just a car. The Prosecution says that the PCA is no longer valid and will not be used. The inventor of that program used by police to track the phone data is incomplete, the inventor of it will be testifying for the defense, he has always testified only for the prosecution in the past. The trip from WA to PA where BK was stopped twice by LE was NOT from the FBI following him. The traffic stops were for LE tracking people they think are hauling drugs. What you have said as proof has not been proven yet in court. NO, BK never followed the girls online. He never messaged them. His college class assignment was given to the entire class not just BK. I'm not saying BK is innocent because I don't know and neither do you. Just don't say it has through it is already a proven fact. You have convicted him without a trial. You have taken the unproven statements of the PGA and UA-cam gossip as fact and ran with it. Justice is important for everyone.
Thats actually fair. Its going to be near impossible to find someone who hasn't been influenced by media in this case. But they found Trump guilty, so i guess fair trials just aren't a thing anymore.
It's always been so strange to me that the roommate saw an intruder in the home, more than likely heard a struggle as well as the voices she admitted to hearing and didnt even try to either check on her friends (by text or otherwise) or call the police if she was aware of danger. Theres something so incredibly suspicious and nonsensical about that. You don't just not heard anything at all while four people are being murdered with a knife one by one.
You could have a knife party in my house with someone in the other room and they wouldn’t hear a thing. Depends on how the house was built. And a ton of other context we don’t have, one thing being they were at a party. After drinking you’re pretty heavily impacted on decision making and awareness.
I witnessed a murder once. My best friend at the time and another girl were frozen in fear and could not move. Everyone reacts differently. I was the only one that moved, albeit I was terrified because these men had bats and machetes, and the girls were in a corner. When the men ran off after seeing me calling the cops, my friends took time to move. It’s frightening, you don’t know if a killer is going to come after you, either you fight or flight.
@@bombyvonbomberson3285 There were screams heard on a ring camera from a different house. You can't convince me people inside didn't hear anything and didn't think to do anything for SEVEN HOURS.
@@moons_9876 I can hear outside my house from my bedroom but nothing from the hall way and vice versa. You can also hear inside the house from the outside. It completely depends on how the homes were built. And as I said before. Drinking severely impacts all sorts of functions of the human body. There are way too many factors you just don’t know
Not at all unusual. Everyone reacts to fear in very different ways. In her case, she curled up in a corner until she knew she was safe. There is a bad misconception that she was an accomplice simply because she panicked and reacted in a way people think is weird. First and foremost, not everyone reacts the same way to things, especially fear. Second, I know that she believed he was standing right outside her door until it was opened by the first responding officer. Third, her family and friends said that she was skittish when faced with confrontation. This means her behavior was perfectly normal for her. It can only be weird if her behavior is unusual for HER. It literally doesn't matter how you or I or anyone else would or wouldn't react here. So if you're implying like all the morons out there that she was in on it because she freaked out instead of calling the cops, then I'm going to stop you there and tell you that that girl has been traumatized enough by this incident. So don't do the typical American thing and make it worse for her.
Wow. It's so hard to believe it's been 2 years already. Those poor kids, they deserved to live full, happy lives. May their memories be a blessing. 🕯️💖
Terrible video. You haven’t actually done an once of research, aside from what.. what news nation has said? This is really disappointing coming from you.
@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 Yvonne Woods is a former DNA analyst in Colorado that was able to manipulate hundreds of DNA results in favor of conviction. She had this job for 29 years, and there could be possbily many, many more that have yet to be uncovered. This has severely shaken my blind trust in DNA results. If one person could manipulate this many DNA results, and prosecutors have earned a reputation for pursuing a conviction over the truth, then OP's comment has merit. Let's wait for all the info before passing judgement.
There is aaaa lot of circumstantial and DNA evidence that points to Bryan being pretty suspect that we know already. He owns the same kind of car spotted numerous times on camera driving the short distance from Pullman to Moscow just after his cellphone goes dark. That same car was seen driving by the victims home 3 times and then stopping there a 4th time around 4:04 am and leaving the area around 4:20 am, the time around when the murders took place. Bryan’s DNA is over an octillion times more likely a match than not to DNA that was found on the knife sheath under one of the bodies and Bryan also matches the description given by one of the witnesses left alive at the house. Bryan’s cellphone then pings off the tower around closest to the victim’s house at 9 am and further records showed it had pinged that same tower closest to the house at least another 11 times before that between June and November 13th 2022. Bryan then changes his license plates a few days after the killings. Then after he travels all the way to his parents in Pennsylvania and is seen cleaning every inch of his car and also numerous times wearing surgical gloves and throwing trash into his neighbor’s garbage cans at 4 in the morning. When Bryan was arrested he was found to be wearing surgical gloves and placing trash into zip-lock bags. Bryan was also in possession of a knife, a gun, and a face mask. He has no alibi other than he was out driving and hiking in the area during the night/morning of November 12/13th. Bryan also contacted one of the victims at one point. Bryan might be innocent until proven guilty but he sure as hell had means and opportunity to commit the crime and his movements via camera footage of a car eerily similar to his being seen driving to Moscow from Pullman and outside the victims home and cellphone data match up to to the timeline given for when the crimes took place. He also admitted to be driving in the area around the time of the crime. That’s a lot of smoke for there to be no fire.
@@tomburress4928 The pings are within a 20 or so mile radius. He cleaned his car after a cross country trip. Who wouldn't ? He has never contacted any of the victims nor did he follow them on social media. The microscopic DNA was touch/ transfer DNA. It could have gotten there any number of ways including being planted. Also, the State has been withholding evidence and especially the IGG info. There is alot going on in this case, and something is very wrong.
Oh and yea, none of them could have been saved but it wouldnt have mattered because they waited 8 hrs (or more, imo) to call 911! If they had called when they heard the stuff they did, shoot le was right down the street!!! At 3 am they had s straight view of the house!
The true crime tik tok detectives really pissed me off when this was all going on. Alleging that professors or even the boyfriend killed them was absolutely disgusting.
So sad and terrifying seeing the photo of them so happy taken hours before they were killed, with them having no idea they only had a few hours of existence left. Awful.
Everyone has a final moment. Scary that we usually have no idea when that is.
@@SecretAsianYoshi Exactly. This hits home how out of nowhere it can be for any of us, just around the corner and we have no idea.
@@JurassicRod you cant escape death forever. Makes you want to appreciate each morning we get to see.
clearly this channel never followed the case, most all evidence against Kohberger has been debunked or "still missing" after 1.5 yrs. This confirms he is 100% innocent.
@@JurassicRodTHAT, did not come out of nowhere...there were reasons that happened....
There was actually a woman on TikTok that literally made HUNDREDS of videos claiming that one of the professors at the university was the real perpetrator. She came to this conclusion because of tarot cards. She was then sued for defamation.
Dude, that lady could have her own timeline!!
She made accusations…was proven wrong…doubled down on accusations…got sued…tripled down…counter sued….quadrupled down…lawsuit thrown out…quintupled down….re-sued…sextupled down… etc etc etc
I hate how THIS comment made me recognize this case
Her dumb SSA got sued and lost. That’s what she gets
Yeah, a real head case
So then why was BK literally driving in the neighborhood exactly at the time of the murders 😑 don’t be an idiot like the rest of these people questioning in BK did it, hell yea his weird ass did it bruh ! His mf prints were on the knife sheath for Christ sakes
I’m a student and resident at the University of Idaho. One thing that really upset me and a lot of other students, faculty, and other Moscow residents, was all the people and internet investigators that treated the case like a money making story they could exploit and involve themselves in. Without thinking of the people involved, or the people affected, the story was (and still is to an extent) treated with disrespect despite a tragedy happening just down the street. Thank you for treating this tragedy involving very real people, with respect. I’ve always loved your channel.
My thoughts are with you all. I can't imagine what this has been like...❤
Sadly, this is what so many forget… it’s not a “story”.. it’s an absolute nightmare come to life…
def agreed, everyone one of the youtube channels are blaming the frats, not realizing these people have lives and families as well
@@ZellofogousEmma B was there and she said JJB ordered the HIT on the house and Idaho4. There are many k*llers involved and Bryan Kohberger was not there. There are three crime scenes at Bandfield, Linda Lane and King Road..
You might want to read through all the court documents and then watch this again to see how much BS is claimed before you make such statements!
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I feel so bad for this guy since so many “internet investigators” had pinned him as the murderer. Even after the police had officially ruled him out as a suspect, people kept harassing him and calling him a killer. It was disgusting.
What Ashley Guillard did to that professor seemed even worse to me. Even after cease and desist letters. Even after police fully exonerated the professor by proving she did not know any of the victims and was out of state at the time. This attention-whore just kept doubling down. Repeatedly saying the professor did it to cover up an affair or some such crap.
All because her tarot cards told her so. And that she just had to tiktok the accusations since only she knew the truth.
iirc the courts just recently ruled on the defamation. It did not even go to a jury because she was objectively guilty as a matter of law.
So this poor professor had to deal with the fallout, finance her legal case and put up with this lunacy.
All so some crazy bint could try to profit off a tragedy.
@AceMoonshot who is Ashley Guilliard? Am only halfway through the video so I'd it answers it then sorry haha
That's how all people who vote democrat are. I guarantee you no trump supporters would ever do that
@@davidh7177 she's the "tiktok psychic" who targeted a university professor because she believed her tarot cards "told her the truth" of the situation
it's a pretty big rabbit hole, and the poor professor really didn't need this on top of everything else
Not quite sure where your information comes but the sheath of his blade was found in the apartment long before the internet heard shit of this
There’s a 3D forensic reconstruction of the path the killer took through the house that night. It’s very eerie. It’s one of those things that has stuck with me.
Oh true? I’d be interested in seeing that! Where can I find it?
@@TheHshostonrelax
Do you have a link?
@@TheHshoston
Grayhughes investigates channel
link please
It must be such a strange mix of emotions to be one of the two people who were in the house and remained unharmed. As though the angel of death had passed them by.
No proof presented they were in the house
@@tonystevenson26what he said there was lol what you mean
@@tonystevenson26🥶
@@tonystevenson26. True.
@@LololeeleeYup. Delulu.
2 Lazy episodes within 3 days?! It’s like Christmas 👌
he just got bills to be paid
He pronounced Moscow incorrectly tho
@@CatMowpurr waa waa
@@CatMowpurrwomp womp
Agreed! He is my favorite horror narrator! The mysteries he details and the takes he gives are fascinating, and the atmosphere of his vids suck me right in!
Stumbling across Lazy covering the case where I live was not what I expected today. Loved how you covered the case in this vid! Alot of us are waiting for the trial to start.
I really like how you have evolved your channel. I have been watching for a long time now. You are one of only a handful of channels I truly enjoy! Thanks Lazy.
Meanwhile some weirdo on TikTok: "tHeIr tEaChEr kiLled TheM, GuYs! BElieVe mE! ThE olD sPiriTs hAve sPoKeN!!!"
That lunatic didn't stop even after cease and desist orders. She is facing serious legal and financial consequences.
Yeah she should seriously feel ashamed of herself. And now she isn’t even retracting what she said she still believes she is right :(
I still can’t believe she didn’t stop after that cease and desist. Now she’s looking at a big financial loss
I was looking to see if anyone mentioned her. Atozy has several videos talking about her, and he is always completely baffled by her audacity.
@@DxC-95 I can't watch his videos covering this deranged woman anymore. It's just pure definition of insanity.
The prosecution has admitted some weeks ago that the PCA is irrelevant to the case which pretty much means that the case relies on parallel investigation and much of the "facts" in the PCA is in fact not so much a fact. That means the suspect vehicle 1 might have nothing to do with the case and the time line put forward is probably wrong.
At the last hearing Payne admitted on the stand that they have not found Bryan’s vehicle on ANY of the hundreds of videos they had obtained.
The whole PCA is a lie. I can’t believe they’re still getting away with this.
@@ohheyykristinathat is not what he said lol.
@@ohheyykristinaThis comment is what’s a lie.
@@ohheyykristinaoh my… somebody hoodwinked you and you believed them. That is definitely not what he said. 😂
@@mikeappleget482 Yeah, they are all falling for a defense lawyer on UA-cam's weird fixation with proving Bryan's innocence not based in evidence but solely on the word of the defense that exculpatory evidence exists. In other words. They believe he was just out looking at stars. They don't think that him cleaning his car with gloves and throwing away trash in other people's trash cans at 4am is in any way meaningful. They don't get it;'s just as wrong to form the conclusion of absolute innocence without actually seeing all the evidence. And they are ONLY basing their beliefs on the filings of the Defense which are not representative of genuine facts, just the defense theory of the case based on what they BELIEVE are the fact. It's the DunningKruger effect meets appeal to authority that is so prevalent in pseudo-intellectual people online. Also, they never said the DNA evidence wasn't important, they just said it wasn't the most important evidence to support guilt. I won't cast him as absolutely guilty, and I am not the court, so I do not have to lend him the concept of innocent until proven guilty, however... I won't convict the man without having all the evidence. Which we do owe the victims to hear out. So these people aren't basing things in fact, they are basing it on their appeal to authority ion the OPINION of a UA-camr Defense Lawyer who takes everything Kohbergers defense says as gospel. As if they would ever release any inculpatory evidence against their client. Of Course, according to the defense the only evidence that exists is exculpatory. That's what a defense lawyer says even after the client is found guilty LOL.
Greetings from Iceland, just your favorite Icelander strolling by. Great job as always
How did he do a great job when he included blatant misinformation
@@RickyRicardo-e2blike whar?
I’m glad I am not seeing negative comments about their roommate who survived. When it’s the middle of the night and there’s random people and noises, it makes sense you wouldn’t automatically assume it’s a murderer. I pray for this woman and I hope everyone supports her moving on❤
Dylan and Bethany were texting each other in the house as the stabbings were going on.
@@aisle_of_viewwhere’s that proof?
@@Melancholycrow ...Did you read the probably cause affadivit or anything the police have released? Because this is very well known. Do you make any attempt to look into anything before you comment?
@@SC-ec8xe do you think before you comment anything? Do you think someone might not be as well researched as you are and just casually browsing? I’m sorry my knowledge of this case isn’t as detailed as yours, maybe try to be respectful to people next time. It’s unfortunate there are people like you out there that can’t even feel inclined to help educate others. Have a day you deserve!
The prosecution in this case stated in court that BK did not follow on social media or stalk any of the victims..
These UA-camrs don’t care to follow the truth.
Under Idaho’s legal definition of stalking, he didn’t, that doesn’t mean he didn’t follow them at any point
It’s basic legal court wording just like another case would be
LE doesn’t have proof of stalking because it doesn’t exist.
Following on insta isn't stalking. Of course they admit that.
Hears someone say “theres someone here” and saying fuck it im just gonna lay back down is crazy. Hearing a unknown male voice in your house at night and choosing to just ignore it is even crazier. Tf was D doing
It’s not like D was at her granny’s house. It was the weekend and she lived in a notorious party pad with 4 other roommates who liked to party. Hearing a dude’s voice and some ruckus going on at night is nothing out of the ordinary. I’ve lived in party houses with a bunch of roommates and complete strangers were always coming and going. And dumb drama and yelling was always going on.
Plus, in party house environments where substances are used, you quickly learn to mind your own business.
It's not really productive to blame someone for their friends' murders because they made a decision you don't understand
@@juanita6238 what did you read that blamed anyone for anything.
@@JosephBommerOfficial I know this might be too high a concept for your feeble brain to understand but there's a term called victim blaming and you're doing it. don't act so shocked when people call you on it.
@@mikeappleget482 he's too stupid/undersocialized to take any of that into account. i did the rounds in college when i was in greek life and it's crazy enough as is what goes on at parties without murder involved. people constantly coming in and out of the house, ruckus all hours of the night, and yelling until the sun came up.
I know one of the surviving students as I went to highschool with her. My sister even played on the same soccer team as her. A tragedy of this scale is truly unimaginable. When I saw her post on Instagram about the loss of her roommates, I was in total shock! Horrible.
Who would have known that the girls kept their sliding glass door unlocked? How isn't there any footage of a person entering or leaving the property? All that footage of the parking lot but none of an individual leaving or entering the vehicle? How didn't the screams of the victims wake up the whole house? How wasn't the perp drenched in blood if the bedrooms were? This case is baffling.
Lucky guess, those sliders aren’t often locked by students. He knew where the cameras were and avoided them. The victims didn’t scream because they were surprised quickly and dispatched by a cut to an arterial vein(likely a stab in the side of the neck) where their throat and lungs would instantly be filling with blood so screaming would be impossible. Gurgling maybe. They would be unconscious from blood loss in seconds. He either stayed out of the line of blood spray or changed clothes before he left. All of your questions are easily answered using a bit of critical thinking and looking over what has been released to the public.
@@LuckyStrike01 That is a whole lot of assumption unsupported by any of the facts that have been put forward thus far. Where would his change of clothes have been stashed? And where are the ones he would have needed to take with him when he left?
He had been stalking the house for some time, I think I heard his phone connected to their WiFi something like 7 times in the weeks running up to the crime
@@WillaMunroekept in the car, he was seen in cctv cleaning the car meticulously inside and out afterwards, and disposing of bloody clothing is not difficult in a rural sparsely populated area as he drove back
@@nevadatan7323 The prosecutors stated in court that it was false that he had been stalking them. There has been zero information from the court about him connecting to their wi-fi either. You should read the court documents or watch the hearings instead of relying on internet gossip. It would be quite amazing if he managed to clean his car so well that there was zero evidence in it and zero signs of excessive measures being taken to clean it (including signs of using very strong chemicals, smear marks, etc).
This is crazy...and very sad. And random people making it worse by turning it into entertainment and saying they know what happened...the worst part is that with certain crimes there is no justice, nothing in the world will undo or make it "better". I am surprised this happened not long ago...I really thought this kind of things stopped.
You thought what kind of thing stopped? Murder?
Who’s making it “entertainment”? Are you talking about LM?
@@coffeecrimegal5968 i believe they are referring to the way this case was sensationalized by the public, mostly on tiktok. there were a disgusting amount of tiktoks of people just theorizing what happened, which in turn started spreading many rumors about who did it and what the cause was. when a horrific murder like this happens, it's important to wait for police to finish their investigation before pointing pitchforks at everyone involved.
The trial has not even happened and yet people want to hang BK.
It's this video, right here, that needs to stop. Most of it is not true.
@@Lololeelee
That’s the nature of the beast when it comes to these types of crimes!
People need to a face to see and someone to blame.
That said there’s still those of us that although may have an opinion all be it a strong one given the information that’s already been released to the public, we know that there still has to be a trial.
The weirdest things about this are how 4 people could be stabbed to death and no one hears anything and that the police were called like 7 hours after it happened. You see someone in your house and you don’t call the cops and you don’t go check on everybody?? All of that is so weird to me.
a girl sees an intruder in all black and a mask IN HER OWN HOME and you wonder why she is frozen in terror not able to call the cops...you obviously live a sheltered life and have never been afraid for your wellbeing
@@damianplasencia2708Yeah, but SEVEN HOURS?
@@scallopohare9431 i wonder if she thought she was hiding in her room all that time, hard to say without all the details and movement that went on AFTER the killings
@@damianplasencia2708 Well, we do know she did not call 911. It"s easy to say from the autopsy results that the others were beyond help, but SHE DID NOT KNOW THAT.
According to the case she was experiencing an episode of trauma/shock, at that point you're just flying on autopilot and operating on fight or flight reactions.
It also doesn't help that the house itself was a frat house with regular parties, and in the video it is mentioned that she calmed down and thought the intruder might have been one of the partygoers just leaving late.
What angers me isn't just the tragic loss of these bright students, but the disgusting idiocy that came after around the case in the internet. Degenerate internet detectives, especially that "tiktok psychic". God it makes my skin crawl
You’re saying this on a video loaded full of misinformation and debunked rumors, lol.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
What haunts me about this case was the footage from outside the house where blood was dripping and running down the house 😢
Bleeding House Mystery
It has not been proven that was blood however....
@@tonystevenson26 except it 100% was blood...
You man the two still pictures.
But no blood trail to prove which way the killer left.
Eight hours after Bryan was busted in PA, the Moscow PD let a cleaning company into the house to deep clean the crime scene. That's either incompetence, malice, or stupidity on behalf of the cops.
Cops were involved. Cleaning up for their cartel bosses.
The reaction from LE says more about this case than their “theory” which has been proven false in the court hearings. This video is disinformation. This YT created did not do any research.
The PD and FBI had already collected and documented sufficient evidence at that point...there was nothing more to be gained. The house had in fact since been demolished.
@@rustyshackleford8473 when PD cleaned the crime scene it was still an active crime scene and defense council had yet to see the crime scene.
@audreycakes478 wrong. No longer an active crime scene and the defense does not need to visit the actual location. They just need access to whatever evidence the prosecutors found there. Nice try, internet lawyer.
Jake Gyllenhaal might end up playing this guy
Dennis from always sunny . Glenn howard i think
He’s too old.
he's about 20 years too old lol glenn howerton is too
It occurred to me while watching that he looks like a cross between Jake and Lurch.
I'd say that guy who played Luke the heroin addict in the Huanting at Hill house on Netflix. I think his Name is Oliver Jackson.
I thought this guy was studying criminology? Meanwhile the Green River Killer was just a regular guy who managed to evade police for like 30 years.
Because forensic science has advanced a lot since then. Even for someone studying criminology, it's incredibly difficult to not leave any evidence behind. Especially DNA
@@raerohan4241That and the type of victims chosen was very different.
@@iambarnowl
he painted trucks semis for a living he was caught because of paint weird ay
Yeah, serial killers from the 70s and 80s were able to evade arrest due to lack of forensic technology. Most of them have been caught now though.
There have been 5 more cases that were solved just recently with genetic genealogy. One was 30 years old! I just love seeing the advancement in forensic technology and dna. However, our world is still full of so much evil that the crimes still don't stop.
my favorite youtuber covering a local case!! ill be back as soon as im off work
i hope you have a great shift!
@@floppywatermelon thank you so much😁
live life to the fullest! hope all is peaceful for you at work
I hope you've finished work and have watched this by now!
Are you local to the area of the crime?
This has blown my mind. I feel so much sadness for everyone involved 😞
This is not true.
Thank you lazy for always putting your whole heart into these videos. You’re a very gifted documentarian.
Nowhere does it say in official records disclosed to the public that the phone was turned off. Not even PCA says that. It only offers possible scenarios, one of which being the phone was out of range which people ignore. According to his defense he was near Wawawai Park at the time. That location has no cell service and cell service in Pullman/Moscow area is spotty. People took one speculative scenario and turned it into a fact. There is so much misinformation in this case, it’s unbelievable
in all fairness, you don’t know what is misinformation as well unless you know the facts, therefore you can’t confidently say what is misinformation and what is not
@@ZellofogousDo you know who Pappa Rogers is? He knows lots of facts about the case. Many think he works for LE. They used to think it was Bryan K but he's not.
@@tamaraterry8683 right, but my point is we just dont know anything to accurately assess what’s really going on. i’ll admit , from the outside looking in, he does look guilty, but if there is a cover up there would have to be over 20 le agnts in on it and i just don’t believe that to be true.
@@Zellofogous Emma B was there and she has talked to Translucent YT for 7 months. Emma said Jesse James Bailey (JJB) ordered the HIT on the house and Idaho4. He called in two cartel leaders to help in the operation and they used frats. Sorority girls and dr*g dealers to do the muders. This is all about dr*g and human trafficking and money laundering. The FBI has a huge trafficking operation going on and Bryan Kohberger is allegedly a federal agent and military asset playing his role as a patsy while the feds work to find all those involved. There are many LE involved in trafficking getting kickbacks. The former homeowners were allegedly involved in dr*g, s3x, child, human, gun trafficking and money laundering. They are rich and powerful and get away with it all. One of them has 445 businesses with over 200 actively involved in trafficking. He's a RSA. The other owns tons of properties and involved in trafficking too. Emma said that King Gonzo owed $700k debt to JJB so he HIT the house because the money was not returned and was lost in XANA and HEX crypto coin scams. The King is the most outspoken parent SG and its time he told the truth. There are many people involved in this and some say there are 4 females and 10 males who did the muders.
He was near the park. Phones lose connections and seemingly look turned off.
9:40 Really? Because it sounds like "D" heard a lot to suggest something terrible had happened. Not to mention, she saw a figure in black leaving at a time of night that a stranger shouldn't have been there. She heard someone say, "Someone's here," heard crying, etc. If I had been her, I probably would be dead. I would have gone to see what was going on. Ain't no way I could have just gone back to bed. Especially after seeing someone leaving like that. I would have definitely called 911. That's wild.
You "forgot" to mention all the absurd things that make absolutely no sense about this case like the fact they didn't call the police and instead invited a load of people into the house to clean up first.
I went to WSU several years ago & drove by that Area at least once per week. For the size of the 2 Towns, there's tons of Police Officers everywhere. However, they were always focused breaking up Parties & arresting Drunk Minors. There were hardly any Detectives & serious Investigations. That's what worries me. The lack of experience, since there's only 1 Murder every 25 years. 😢
Meanwhile mysterious deaths labeled accidents are happening all around !
@@tonystevenson26drug and alcohol related overdoses and deaths happen on every college campus. I wouldn’t consider them “mysterious”.
Lazy Masquerade, thank you for this clear, cut and dry explanation of this horrendous-beyond-words event. I'll admit that I know the basics of what happened but never took time to dive into it. I saw you uploaded a video about this and decided to dive in with you. Man, NOT the context but the execution of your video was spectacular. Thank you.
You have a ton to learn. This case is so far from cut & dry. They aren't letting the defense see the evidence they claim they have. Its well known that phone pings are meaningless & Bryan was close enough to all the towers that his phone didn't need to leave his house for it to connect to the other town's tower. They changed the year of car they were looking for. They swatted another guy with the same initials as the guy they arrested... They tore the house down before the trial... Parents of 3 of the 4 victims had drug & legal issues...people from the college were involved in stuff... far from cut & dry. The kid who drown in 2 inches of water months before...the venmo payments amonsgt their friends around the time of the deed...
@@andrewjacobs5579yeah, all that kinda stuff
@@andrewjacobs5579 I lost all trust in the local police and the prosecution, especially after the recent hearings. It is unacceptable that someone has been in custody for over 1.5 years, and the "evidence" supposedly proving their guilt cannot be produced. Responsibilities are being shifted between the prosecutor, the MPD, and the FBI because no one wants to admit that the evidence doesn't exist.
The prosecutor assumed BK would agree to a deal and exaggerated to increase the pressure. He never expected to present this "case" to a jury. After a change of venue seemed likely, significantly reducing the chances of success, we've heard and seen little from Thompson. Once bold and confident, he sits with a dark purple, lowered head behind his desk, leaving the stage to his overwhelmed colleague.
@@andrewjacobs5579 says the guy spreading misinformation and crap not relevant to the case
They didn’t swat the wrong house
3 out of the 4 families wanted the house gone, any of the 4’s families having issues with drugs in the past is irrelevant.
The pings are meaningless, says who? You?
What Venmo payments?
What students involved in what?
@@Romina1907.the FBI is the one holding up the rest of the evidence, because it’s the FBI, they take their time with this
To say the FBI is refusing that the evidence doesn’t exist is laughable, pure conspiracy bullshit
Ok I’m watching this with bated breath because I went a little overboard with this case since it happened. I went down all the rabbit holes. I pray half the psychos from those true crime and conspiracy channels don’t find this video… believe me, the engagement isn’t worth the headache that comes with the insane trolls attached to this case.
Happy Father’s Day to everyone celebrating btw.
I was thinking the same thing lol
This is the case where that true crime TikTok person kept accusing a profesor of being the perpetrator right? It’s nuts
@@crizmeow8394 and that’s literally the tamest of all conspiracies… this case brought out the PSYCHOS lol
@@crizmeow8394omg I totally forgot about her😂😂😂😂😂
YES! And there are other channels on YT feeding into all of it, drumming up garbage theories just to keep their View Counts high in the "lull" until the trial starts.
I remember when this was unfolding. It was everywhere on the news here in the PNW.
Wouldn't the killer be covered in blood? Wouldn't he leave bloody footprints? Wouldn't he leave a blood trail from the third floor to the second floor? Wouldn't there be bloody footprints or blood drops leading to the spot his car was parked? Why was the roommate frozen in fear? Did she suspect something and decided to just go to bed? If I was a defense attorney, these would be a few of the questions I would have to have an answer to.
The prosecutor said in a recent hearing that the pca was irrelevant… and that he was not stalking the students.
Bruh the roommate hearing all that seeing the guy and not calling the cops is the dumbest shit. I’m surprised by how many people have 0 situational awareness.
In all fairness if the PCA is irrelevant, why not just let Kohberger go? I do understand how PC works and all that, but if you’re going to use a very very broad and not necessarily specific legal document to arrest someone then turn around and say its useless, why bother having it at all?
These are all legitimate questions that are asked frequently. There are nang subreddits on this topic. I don’t believe for one second DM froze in fear and tge killer(s) justt happened to walk past her without so much as a second glance?
Something also doesn’t sit right with me regarding the timing of the car making a three-point turn on camera at 04.06a and almost immediately after Dylan heard one of her friends say, “there’s someone here.” She then went back to scrolling on TikTok until 04.12, implying that she spent a few more minutes watching videos and THEN stopped at that time. It seems to me that the killer would have to hustle from getting out of his parked car, grab his gear, get mentally prepared for the atrocity he was determined to commit, and reach the second-floor back entrance of the house to make it inside within the span of what was likely less than 90 seconds.
The killer remaining uncannily stealthy during such an ostensibly frenzied rush is something I find hard to accept. Especially since the behavior of the driver of the car on camera-presuming it was the killer’s and not just coincidental-would suggest a person struggling with the idea of going through with the act.
This is so heartbreaking. Thank you for giving us all the information and a clear lay out of the entire timeline. The entire thinga is so sad.
I'll likely never forget this as it happened on my birthday. These poor kids (yeah, I know they were technically adults, but they were SO young 😢)
This happened so close to where I live. Horrible things like this really do happen everywhere.
So what do the young townsfolk think ? Oh, I'll bet they AINT talkin....cause many KNOW
Is not really everywhere though.. northwest USA is known for serialkillers
@@tonystevenson26Townsfolk are letting the accused killer get his due process of law while laughing at the internet conspiracy theorists coming up with all these different absurd stories and the keyboard clowns that go around spreading these conspiracies in the comments as if they even have a clue.
2:00
Thought you were about to pour your heart out about your newfound love of stamp collecting.
💘
You might want to catch up on this case and not use tabloid media as your source. Many claims have already been debunked. Many things you’ve listed conflict with the official records coming out of the proceedings
I agree. Normally love these videos but this felt like very lazy research….
such as?
It’s the easiest way to get the views though. Sad.
@@Dimensionaut_such as no connection to the victims and no evidence of stalking.
@@Fallout3131 i noticed this too. not sure if it’s a new thing but in his more recent videos, i’ve seen a LOT of people coming forward in the comments and pointing out evidence in these cases as being debunked, false, or stating facts that have been completely glossed over. i have no idea where he’s getting his information from at this point but it seems like he might just be regurgitating articles and news outlets without looking at the LITERAL court documents. 🫠 i’ve been following Lazy for years but i’m debating unsubscribing because this is ridiculous.
This is so crazy every time I hear about this story i still get goosebumps. I live in a small town about 30 mins south of Moscow ID and I used to drive up to the moscow/pullman aread to drive for doordash ALLL the time. When I saw the Pic of the house I realized I had delivered there multiple times!! So sad and crazy, never ever imagined this could or would happen in our small town area. So sad for the families 😭
Sweet! Love these videos. Thank you Lazy! ❤
@10:33 so experts/investigators believe all 4 victims must have been asleep...
yet it also states Xana was not only waiting for and received a door dash order at that exact time but that she was also on Tiktok?...
it cant' be both!
Murders are presumed to have taken place between 4 and 4 :25 AM.
@8:10 it's stated that Xana was on TikTok at 4 :12 whilst her door dash meal was delivered before that.
Highly unlikely she fell asleep immediately after, all the more considering two housemates one floor up were being unalived.
Such a crazy case.
Hope trial starts soon.
I could be wrong but I heard the instagram thing was fake
Ya it was proven to be fake.
This was a super lazy researched video…
What about DNA found a crime scene? I am curious, many people believe he is innocent (possible) but if his DNA was found at crim scene than how is there any doubt about his involvement
@@Fallout3131Site your own sources before saying something is fake.
@@jitendramalik566 it was like the smallest detectable dna amount possible so it could be unreliable or from transferring across multiple objects. He still could have done it but it isn’t the smoking gun people are acting like it is
This case has been wild
It has been extremely boring. Waiting forever for the prosecution to turn over what little evidence it has.
@@JeffSherlock the slows wheels of justice
@@JeffSherlockyou can thank the FBI for that, not the prosecution.
Around 50 Tyrabete’s of data of evidence isn’t “little evidence” whatsoever
my sister actually graduated from that college and lived a few minutes away from these people
The RE intro is hands down my favorite
What’s RE intro?
The defense is really going to have to work overtime for this one.
he has legions of weirdo defenders who’ve already started to invade these comments unfortunately
It has been more than a year of the prosecution refusing to obey federal law and give the defense the evidence it legally has the right to. Yes, a long time.
@@maxkproductions this Incel max is at it again😂
@@MinddyMars sorry for insulting your boyfriend, totally real and not fake account created last month with a totally real person in your pfp and not an ai image/stock photo.
@@maxkproductions so you are a proud incel? why do you like being an incel?
Still blows my mind that multiple ppl could be killed in a full house by one person and they get away initially...
Knife attacks are fast and lethal, something I don’t think many people consider. Add in the other circumstances like the time, intoxication, consciousness, and the party house environment and the events become very plausible.
It was done by 2 - 4 killers.
@@hpotter2954 No evidence.
@@scheezy most likely done by more than one person. If you have watched any of the pre-trial hearings, you would have better information to base your beliefs on.
Richard Speck. Danny Rolling.
D should have put on her big girl pants and call the police.. she had a least a chance to save her friends, and she failed her friends. Why on earth would you wait on calling the cops.. if you know someone is in the house that is not supposed to be, and your just sitting there, she had her cellphone on her the entire time. extremely disappointed in her
She did not know someone was not supposed to be there. The cops previously told the roommates if they had to come back to the house they were going to give citations. Who would think 4 people are being murdered. And who would call the cops on their roommates?
I went to this college and have spent so much time in this town. My brother, sister in law, and nephew live there. This was so unsettling.
I beg your pardon. I feel the need to tell you that you should watch the court hearings. You are putting this information out for over 200,000 viewers to see and 90% of it is inaccurate. Even the state admits that there is no stalking. The car in the 7-Eleven picture was not BK. An expert witness who has 20 years experience who helped develop the technology for analyzing the cell phone data is testifying for the defense for the first time in 20 year career. He even says that there is nothing That puts BK even in Moscow at the time of the crime. I’m sorry if you find this offensive. However, it is very irresponsible to put a false information for tens of thousands to see. Now all of these people are going to believe you the other thing the DoorDash driver, there is nothing even in the PCA, which you probably didn’t even read, that says where the food was left. It doesn’t say if it was handed to anybody or left at the door. Please do your research properly. Read the court documents read the PCA, and watch the hearings.
Why hasn’t the defense expert witness proven where Bryan was then?!
He has an away. South west of Moscow at the time of the crime.
@@divinepathwaystarot he hasn’t proven a single thing
@@AllegedlyAngelawhy hasn't the prosecution provided all the information to the defense. What are they hiding?
@@AllegedlyAngelaprosecution has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Why don't you rag on them for not providing proof?
hold up a minute. the killer walked right by one of the girls who lived, she then locked herself in her room with a cellphone, but she didnt call 911 until the morning? um what?
I was a freshman at WSU at the time of the murders. It's such an odd feeling knowing that this guy was wandering around campus.
I was traveling thru most Moscow Idaho when this happened. It was eerie like the volume was turned down on life. Everyone was in a state of shock and mourning.
Bro,both asiamina and Chief Cochuaque need a raise... I've been hearing their names in all your videos 😂
D and B were likely simply not his intended targets.
Just before Ted Bundy was finally caught, he entered a sorority house and killed 3 of the 7 girls that were there. But he didn't so much as disturb the other 4 girls.
This behavior is likely because, at least in Bundy's case, he targeted brunettes.
The 3 he attacked were brunettes, and the 4 he didn't weren't brunettes.
I know a lit people question why some were attacked and some weren't.
But think this logically: you are a single individual who has broken into a home with intended targets. You've likely prepared yourself for your targets.
So why attack non targets?
You wouldn't unless you absolutely HAVE to.
Fighting with someone in any capacity is exhausting and time-consuming.
In Brian's case, he was already surprised by a boyfriend.
Though D saw him, she fled instead of confronting him. So again, there is no reason to spend more time and energy in that house.
B slept through it so she was never a threat or a target.
Simply put, Brian likely was likely targeting those 3 girls specifically. They are similar in appearance blonds. And of the boyfriend was in the way.
Also, my understanding is that D and B were brunettes. So unlikely to be targeted considering who he did attack.
I'm pretty sure those 2 girls that survived were blonde too & Xana had dark hair so that shoots down a good part of what u think😂
Crazy. He got stopped on 12/15, my mom's birthday, and arrested on 12/30, my birthday.
But Officer Payne said they didn't have his name until 12/23/22, which unfortunately is the date we lost my baby brother.
Sorry, I've always had a thing with dates.
I was 17 when the Gainesville Student Murders happened. It not only is a horrific end to people's lives, but it traumatizes the entire community. That part is rarely ever touched on.
Don't be so silly.
There is something super fishy going on within the city, university, fraternities, sororities, police department, and the surviving roommates!
Actually it was not true that he was “stalking them online”. There’s a clip of the judge saying that was false. There a lot that goes behind this whole case. I am not trying to defend Bryan but if you look at this case in both ways and do more research, something isn’t adding up and the police are very sketchy. Keep an open mind. When you question other things then you are in the middle realizing that something is not right.
I just started this video but I'll admit. I'm pretty nervous. I really love this channel, but I have also been following this case meticulously from the start. Bryan is innocent. Hands down. I've never had a single doubt. I really hope this channel doesn't fall down the same smear campaign, propaganda hole as so many other channels and the MSM have. Going by the first few comments I've read though.. I think I'm going to be disappointed.
Edit: yeah i cant watch this. I dont think ive ever felt this low about a youtube channel. (Yeah im aware lazy doesnt gaf, but i can voice my feelings anyway). I am honestly questioning his research and integrity now. If I were to start listing the misinformation in tbis video, I would be here all day. Its so funny how people who are adamant about Bryan's guilt claim they care about justice. What a sad joke. What kind of justice? Putting an innocent man to death? You dont care about justice. You care about society seeing you on the "right" side. If you cared about justice you would have already had so many flags appear that cant be ignored lead you into doing your own research, and you would find that whoever did this is still out there - and that isnt justice. It is just so much easier to pretend to be a good person when the media has already found and condemned the "bad guy" already. Actually doing the right thing would take too long and would be too much trouble. I mean.. who wants to do all that right? Its clearly this pale weird "incel" guy who was rejected by these blonde, tan, popular girls right? I mean come on this narrative is too good - why would anyone wanna mess that up? Its a stereotypical good vs bad story. We got him everyone, evil jealous weirdo murdered 3 beautiful young women and one of their fit, handsome, and "totally normal and cool" boyfriends. Its so cut and dry. Case closes. Let the guy fry already!!! Wooo! Justice has been SERVED!!!!...
Do you think that sounded stupid? Yeah. Time to look in your mirror. He did not do this, and if you insist that he did - you are choosing to believe a load bullsh*t. You are choosing to ignore the dark reality of the matter, or you are unfortunately just that stupid. Maybe its both!!
Man. I really thought higly of Lazy. I dont watch many "true crime" channels as i find most of them self serving, ego driven, artificial and obnoxious. Its really hard to not see hes just after views like the rest. Super disappointing. Oh well.
(And if youre someone who wants to reply about my wall of text, youre wasting your time. IDGAF)
Thanks for being rational. This comment section is worse than Nancy Grace. I gotta leave before I have an aneurysm.
I’m disappointed too. I’m hoping the Lazy recognizes that this case is not what’s shown in the media and will take a deeper dive into it to see the truth.
He is Lazy Lazy !!😂😂😂 in court prosecution even stated he didn’t stalk victims and he has Sue Ray why did he not mention the alibi is better than most involved, stupidity is Lazy😮
I will never understand why roommates didn’t call 911.
Here's some thing could this killer or killers be the smiley face killer or killers! Just Saying? They are real they need to be caught!
99% chance of drugs. It was a party house. Sounds like they texted all of their friends before the police
@@Trizzer89I love how Americans always blame drugs when they don’t know, trauma and fear seems more likely honestly
Heard about this a while back and i live in idaho. Shook me deep. Its not something you expect, at least not how the killings were done
The coroner stated it was a brutally bloody scene. There was no blood in Bryan’s car or apartment. That’s just crazy if he did the killings! I still believe there were more than one killer. Just think Kaylee had over 50 stab wounds and her face was so brutally beaten in she had to be identified by her teeth. This was spoken by her father Steve. This would have taken time to do plus the STAMIA one person would need it’s almost impossible to believe all four killings were done by one killer.
Some of your info is incorrect. Might want to update.
yeah i kind of want to unsub now its giving ...... try hard.
Like what was wrong in the video?
@Jade-jj5or He did not follow the victims online before the attack.
Some of the cell phone data is being challenged.
After what we know happened in that house the “someone’s here” D heard is terrifying.
Why do people NOT call the police?!!!!!
Dee saw a guy in black, with a mask and decided AGAINST calling the police.....
WHY?!!!!!!!
These stories drive me crazy, they drive me crazy.
CALL THE FREAKIN COPS!!!
This is a situation that they know what to do!!
Listen there's something definitely suspicious about d's account. Maybe she was lying or covering up something. Maybe this whole thing is a cover up.
I've been following this case since day one .. All arrows point to Bryan. I do feel it was a foolish move to demoish the house before the trial. Could have given the jurors an opportunity to see and walk through the crime scene before making thier decision. Dylan and Bethany should take the stand and testify during the trial .
The first one occurred at 2:17a.m.
Cleanberger was still in Pullman Wa.
So not all arrows point to him.
@13:09 he didn't suspiciously receive new plates, it was by law he had to change them!
Again misinformation!
You're in love with BK, aren't you?
@@JoshSmith-ff8dwno I just read court documents and listen and watch all hearings for the actual FACTS!
All the shit spewed in this is from dateline or news nation which seem to skate over the FACTS presented in court!
If you knew anything about this case in detail then you’d know that yourself!
Justice for the victims isn’t going to happen if they lock up the wrong person!
@@JoshSmith-ff8dwyou must be in love with the prosecutor. Are you g*y?
@@JoshSmith-ff8dwI had no idea that using actual facts makes you in love with someone. Thanks for that little clown school lesson! 🤡
@@ColdCreekB When I see self-proclaimed "broken women" rushing to the defense of a man accused of murder, well, it doesn't take a genius.
Wake up bae, Lazy Masquerade just dropped
These comments are so cringe 😂
You call yourself 'bae?' Eww.....
I live in Washington. Ethan was originally from western WA, a town called Monroe not far from me. The last time I was there I saw that his mother had written a book and was doing a reading of it at a local bookstore. It was really touching to see. These kids will never be forgotten ❤
Edited to add I’ve been to Moscow a few times, the people there are super friendly and welcoming. It seems like a nice community
I know monroe Washington well, but from what ive seen he was from Monroe Pennsylvania, i may be wrong though.
The one girl saw an intruder with a mask and just hid in her room and never called the police?! WHAT?!
@@josephk4932 How do you know?
Shock
@@josephk4932 Umm...ok. But what has this to do with my comment?
Why does he have the Aron Hernandez hair cut 😂
D originally said she made eye contact with the killer.
TWO people fought for their lives and the roommate left alive didn't hear anything?
**SHE WASNT ASLEEP, SHE WAS ON HER PHONE. SHE DIDNT GO TO SLEEP UNTIL AFTER SHE LOCKED EYES WITH THE KILLER**
I don’t normally say a case doesn’t feel right, because duh, no murder case is ever gonna “feel right” but there is something still so off about this one. Something is missing, something isn’t being said, idk.
agreed. something stinks
i can see both sides of the case (for guilt or innocents of BK). Two things stand out- the roommate calling 911 many hours afterwards and calling friends to come over first...but also where is the all other dna evidence from massive amounts of blood that would undoubtedly be all over the murderer who had to get into his car and drive. Did they not find a drop of blood anywhere in the car? What about at the crime scene? No hair? Nothing? The murderer was that prepared but left his shealth?
Love when I see a Lazy post! Hopefully we see more of ya sir, you do an incredible job
14:59 I'm guessing they wanted to see if there were fresh cuts on his hands as often occurs in frenzied stabbings
@6:24 it is not confirmed as the same car, only suspected by payne!
Payne also messed up w/CAST report and Sye Ray shows his alibi is at Wei Wei and he didn’t stalk the victims 😂Lazy is lazy can’t properly investigate
The prosecution is acting nuts who behaves like this during a court case ?
We still don’t know if the source DNA is his. The prosecution used the “Prosecutors Fallacy”, they stated the test itself not the actual results. This isn’t my opinion, it’s on court record and uncontested by the prosecution.
It’s also shady they didn’t see the sheath right away. Another dude found it at a different time. So even the alleged “touch dna” is suspect to me
If they don't find Kohbergers DNA in the house, they don't really have him for murder. You can place his cellphone in the area, a car that looks like his in the area, and touch DNA on a sheath that MAY OR MAY NOT even belong to the murder weapon...
It's all very suspect, and I do believe a jury will convict if this is all they have, but to me, even the DNA on the sheath does not in and of itself prove murder.
I live across town from where this happened. It's crazy to know it was only 2 miles away from where i was sleeping. My wife and i felt like we had to change up and start being more vigilant, it made us all a bit nervous around town.
It's weird that they destroyed the house before a trial
Dumb thing to tear down the house before the investigation was even completed.
My theory is that he was a massive narcissist and when he got ignored he snapped. He decided he would teach these "bitches" a lesson. And as is usually the case with narcissists he thought he was too smart to get caught.
I’m just imagining his blood going cold after getting home and realizing he left the sheath lmao
You’re not too far off tbh he’d been stalking the group for awhile
They found the guy who did it
@@c-u-next-tuesdayno proof of tht
@@c-u-next-tuesdaythere is no evidence of that. Watch the trail videos for what evidence they have.
I just need to know why that other girl didn't call?? I can understand being frozen in fear in that moment but not even attempt to call or anything just seems odd.
The more I think about it, why did she call her friends to come over before calling 911. You wake up and see blood everywhere, its a pretty straightforward decision to call 911 at that point. Rather it is reported that she called friends and they came over and one of them called 911.
You have given facts that have not been proven yet. The white Elantra circling around the area most likely is not the killers, it has not been proven, the facts of that car does not match BK's car, wrong year model, it may have been other people or even the DDD. The sighting of the car going from Pullman to Moscow is not the correct car, just a car. The Prosecution says that the PCA is no longer valid and will not be used. The inventor of that program used by police to track the phone data is incomplete, the inventor of it will be testifying for the defense, he has always testified only for the prosecution in the past. The trip from WA to PA where BK was stopped twice by LE was NOT from the FBI following him. The traffic stops were for LE tracking people they think are hauling drugs. What you have said as proof has not been proven yet in court. NO, BK never followed the girls online. He never messaged them. His college class assignment was given to the entire class not just BK. I'm not saying BK is innocent because I don't know and neither do you. Just don't say it has through it is already a proven fact. You have convicted him without a trial. You have taken the unproven statements of the PGA and UA-cam gossip as fact and ran with it. Justice is important for everyone.
I thought it was well known that prosecutors have said that Kohberger did not follow any of the victims on social media.
They did and yet lazy creators keep tainting the jury pool
Thats actually fair. Its going to be near impossible to find someone who hasn't been influenced by media in this case. But they found Trump guilty, so i guess fair trials just aren't a thing anymore.
Wow. A lot of your facts are false. Disappointed in this one.
Lazy is lazy and incorrect how many other videos are as false as this?
I remember when this happened!! This one hit me really hard for some reason :(
I never realized that Idaho and Washington were next to each other
Yes, unfortunately there are a lot of ignorant people out there and still believe the rubbish from the video🤣
Sounds like a typical public school education.
The heartbeat background sound was so annoying during the car footage
It's always been so strange to me that the roommate saw an intruder in the home, more than likely heard a struggle as well as the voices she admitted to hearing and didnt even try to either check on her friends (by text or otherwise) or call the police if she was aware of danger. Theres something so incredibly suspicious and nonsensical about that. You don't just not heard anything at all while four people are being murdered with a knife one by one.
You could have a knife party in my house with someone in the other room and they wouldn’t hear a thing. Depends on how the house was built. And a ton of other context we don’t have, one thing being they were at a party. After drinking you’re pretty heavily impacted on decision making and awareness.
I witnessed a murder once. My best friend at the time and another girl were frozen in fear and could not move. Everyone reacts differently. I was the only one that moved, albeit I was terrified because these men had bats and machetes, and the girls were in a corner. When the men ran off after seeing me calling the cops, my friends took time to move. It’s frightening, you don’t know if a killer is going to come after you, either you fight or flight.
@@bombyvonbomberson3285 There were screams heard on a ring camera from a different house. You can't convince me people inside didn't hear anything and didn't think to do anything for SEVEN HOURS.
@@moons_9876 I can hear outside my house from my bedroom but nothing from the hall way and vice versa. You can also hear inside the house from the outside. It completely depends on how the homes were built.
And as I said before. Drinking severely impacts all sorts of functions of the human body. There are way too many factors you just don’t know
@@bombyvonbomberson3285 Have you watched the 3d recreation of the layout? Might help you understand my skepticism.
The girl not calling the cops when she saw the guy in the house is so bizarre
Not at all unusual.
Everyone reacts to fear in very different ways.
In her case, she curled up in a corner until she knew she was safe.
There is a bad misconception that she was an accomplice simply because she panicked and reacted in a way people think is weird.
First and foremost, not everyone reacts the same way to things, especially fear.
Second, I know that she believed he was standing right outside her door until it was opened by the first responding officer.
Third, her family and friends said that she was skittish when faced with confrontation. This means her behavior was perfectly normal for her.
It can only be weird if her behavior is unusual for HER.
It literally doesn't matter how you or I or anyone else would or wouldn't react here.
So if you're implying like all the morons out there that she was in on it because she freaked out instead of calling the cops, then I'm going to stop you there and tell you that that girl has been traumatized enough by this incident.
So don't do the typical American thing and make it worse for her.
It's irresponsible, that's for sure.
@@chrisbennett6236 What are you an expert?
@@bottle1211are you ?
@@omnirath yes
Wow. It's so hard to believe it's been 2 years already. Those poor kids, they deserved to live full, happy lives. May their memories be a blessing. 🕯️💖
Terrible video. You haven’t actually done an once of research, aside from what.. what news nation has said? This is really disappointing coming from you.
Trial isn't even started yet, so take a lot of this with a grain of salt, since we have literally no information since his arrest.
Yea... how many octillion grains do we need from your wisdom? How many octillion ways are we supposed to ignore the DNA lol
@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 Yvonne Woods is a former DNA analyst in Colorado that was able to manipulate hundreds of DNA results in favor of conviction. She had this job for 29 years, and there could be possbily many, many more that have yet to be uncovered. This has severely shaken my blind trust in DNA results. If one person could manipulate this many DNA results, and prosecutors have earned a reputation for pursuing a conviction over the truth, then OP's comment has merit. Let's wait for all the info before passing judgement.
@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 innocent until proven guilty, loser
There is aaaa lot of circumstantial and DNA evidence that points to Bryan being pretty suspect that we know already. He owns the same kind of car spotted numerous times on camera driving the short distance from Pullman to Moscow just after his cellphone goes dark. That same car was seen driving by the victims home 3 times and then stopping there a 4th time around 4:04 am and leaving the
area around 4:20 am, the time around when the murders took place. Bryan’s DNA is over an octillion times more likely a match than not to DNA that was found on the knife sheath under one of the bodies and Bryan also matches the description given by one of the witnesses left alive at the house. Bryan’s cellphone then pings off the tower around closest to the victim’s house at 9 am and further records showed it had pinged that same tower closest to the house at least another 11 times before that between June and November 13th 2022. Bryan then changes his license plates a few days after the killings. Then after he travels all the way to his parents in Pennsylvania and is seen cleaning every inch of his car and also numerous times wearing surgical gloves and throwing trash into his neighbor’s garbage cans at 4 in the morning. When Bryan was arrested he was found to be wearing surgical gloves and placing trash into zip-lock bags. Bryan was also in possession of a knife, a gun, and a face mask. He has no alibi other than he was out driving and hiking in the area during the night/morning of November 12/13th. Bryan also contacted one of the victims at one point. Bryan might be innocent until proven guilty but he sure as hell had means and opportunity to commit the crime and his movements via camera footage of a car eerily similar to his being seen driving to Moscow from Pullman and outside the victims home and cellphone data match up to to the timeline given for when the crimes took place. He also admitted to be driving in the area around the time of the crime. That’s a lot of smoke for there to be no fire.
@@tomburress4928 The pings are within a 20 or so mile radius. He cleaned his car after a cross country trip. Who wouldn't ? He has never contacted any of the victims nor did he follow them on social media. The microscopic DNA was touch/ transfer DNA. It could have gotten there any number of ways including being planted. Also, the State has been withholding evidence and especially the IGG info. There is alot going on in this case, and something is very wrong.
I'm getting old, nearing 40 in a few, and all I can think is "they were just babies". They had SO MUCH to do still.
Over 20 isn’t exactly “babies”
@@thesilentassassin1167 in the scheme of things it is
I'm not quite 40, I'm 35, but I feel the same way you do. These victims died so young, having just begun living their adult lives.
It’s so sad what happened to them. They would be enjoying the summer time now! 🥲hope they get the killer who did this! Kohberger is odd!
Oh and yea, none of them could have been saved but it wouldnt have mattered because they waited 8 hrs (or more, imo) to call 911! If they had called when they heard the stuff they did, shoot le was right down the street!!! At 3 am they had s straight view of the house!
The true crime tik tok detectives really pissed me off when this was all going on. Alleging that professors or even the boyfriend killed them was absolutely disgusting.