I have 3 family members that all live within 2 miles of me, all with a 1 HP deep well pump, and we all irrigate our lawns twice a week. I have changed the pumps on all 3 and never had to touch mine because the house had a CSV installed when built. This was in a ten year time frame. I'm convinced this valve does the job.
I came here after finding CSV for the exact same reasons you are; installing lawn irrigation and noticed the pump "relay" cycling ever 47 seconds and I thought, "This can't be good.". After a deep dive into figuring out what tank and well pump I had, I did a deep dive into how and why this system works drawdown, GPM, pressure, tank size tradeoff etc. That's when I found CSV's website. I'm a software engineer too! And yes, I was like...."This website is kinda 2008", but then I read the product descriptions and came to the conclusion this guy knows what he's talking about. I'm commenting here because I think you're my brother from another mother. LOL. Anyway, Looks like I'll be getting one this week. Thanks for the video!
Great product and company. Terrible website. LOL. My issue turned out to be just that my tank didn't match my pump pressure switch. Once I set them both correctly short short cycling went away.
@@OurBlackCatCottage Sorry. Been working on the web site since web sites began. That is what a web site looks like that was made by an old well driller trying to explain a very beneficial but counter intuitive product. :)
Great video! Thanks for the explanation. Quick question: Does your cycle stop valve make any noise (hissing, water flowing noises) when operating? I am thinking of installing one but it would have to be in a basement living area, so excess noise would be an issue. Thanks.
This is great! Thanks for the kind words. The CSV web page was put together by the same old well driller that makes the Cycle Stop Valves. Any help from you in that area would be greatly appreciated. Lol! Also, to the haters that say you didn't show anything working. Watching what a Cycle Stop Valves is like watching an old man fish. Not much happening, which is the point. The CSV just makes the pressure gauge stay at 40 PSI (in your case) no matter how many or how few faucets, sprinklers, or showers you have on at the same time. You could have shown how the system cycles on and off between 30 and 50 over and over before adding the CSV. But after adding the CSV it just sits at 40 no matter how you use the water. Thanks for the video. Adding you to my channel. Cary
You did a great job explaining how the CSV works even before you installed it. Most people still don't understand how the CSV works even after they install it and are standing there watching it work.
Not knocking you at all, but I assumed you were no expert as soon as I saw the amount of fittings and primer all over the place in the video. It was good for a laugh. The finished product looks much better!
The seems like 10 minute arrival time has turned into over a 6 day arrival. Now changing airline tickets according the CSV arrival. Thanks for the misleading shipping time. Taking the CSV with me overseas. Looking on the bright side I get to visit with the family for a few more extra days. :)
Sorry for your problem. But I will bet it was shipped the day you ordered, We get them out as soon as we can because we have no control over the freight once it leaves. Sometimes they make us look good, other times not so much. I hope you enjoy it. Sorry they are not available overseas. The rest of the world wants American to purchase from them but prevent us from competing with them. :(
Hey Little Cat Cottage, Can you give us an update? I've heard some back and forth between the sales pitch and those that think this doesn't help the pump. Do you have a comparison of your electric bill using the CSV and what your general usage of the well has been (i.e. cottage life, lots of farming, etc.)? This may be the deciding factor for many people.
It is hard to gauge electric usage because it is all on solar. My main house is still on city water, and the small apartment that the well services still is under construction so I only use it to irrigate and I do that everyday for about 4 hours. The front lawn was the biggest problem before and now the on/off issue is gone. Before it would cycle on/off almost every minute for 40 minutes. It was horrible. I haven't had any issues since I installed the CSV. I am not an expert at all. I barely understand how all of this works but I know that this has worked great for me. I hope this helps.
Its my understanding that it does cause the pipes to have more pressure so you have to make sure they are all in good working order. I haven't heard anything about it adding pressure to the actual well pump. But this is all very new to me.
if your pump cycles repeatedly, check the 'dry pressure' in your pressure tank before you do anything! this value should be 2-3 psi less than the cut-in pressure for your pressure switch. not sure what the 'cycle stop valve' costs, but it's probably more than what you'd pay for a pressure tank with more usable volume (draw-down), without limiting the overall pressure & flow to your system.
Both compatible. If you're using a lot of water at one time, this works great and also if your space is confined for a bladder tank. The valves also gives you continuous pressure while showering and such. I've had one on my system for years and it works great.
Does it seem to be working properly? Did you have them adjust it at the factory to 40psi for your 30-50 system? That is what I have my pressure switch set to as well. My tank needs to be replaced and I’m considering going this route with a small tank
I set it to 47 psi and it seems to be working great. This is all new to me so it is still a learning experience. So far the only thing that could be an issue is that you need to make sure your pipes can take the back pressure.
why were you cycling to fast? Do you have a water storage tank? What is the size of your pressure tank? What is the size of your motor? So little information, only, its cool. Are you sure this was the best way?
Sprinkle with more than 1 line at a time and your pressure system will just stay on because it won't fill up and turn off. If you want to keep your pump running there are simpler ways to make it happen.
How's about a demonstration of the device in use? A before/after would have been useful as well. This video is full of a bunch of cheer for team Cycle Stop Valves but no evidence that the valve works as claimed.
"Does it work and is it worth the money?" --- This is the title to your video of which you didn't answer either question!! Before you install it you say how great it is and how great the company is, wtf?? Just cause they sent it to you in two days doesn't make the valve "the coolest unit in the history of the universe"... What a waste of time!
"It's working fine, that's it for today" - That's the extent your experience? What a worthless clickbait video. Spend some time actually reviewing the product working after installing it instead of rehashing all the basic info we can read ourselves.
"Does it work?" I don't know. Never saw it working. "Is it worth the money?" I don't know. Whats it cost? What are the savings? About as worthless a video as I've seen.
I thought SCH 40 was acceptable for potable water below 140F. If he's irrigating for lengthy periods, and the CSV simply keeps the pump on preventing short cycle,wouldn't it extend the life of the pump?
a little knowledge is dangerous, as evidence of that mess of a plumbing job you did there! So much crap on the internet. Best to preface your videos with "this is just my opinion and I really don't know anything about this"... you kind of did. Perhaps that pressure valve is a great item! but you praised it before you even had installed it! Hmmmm. didn't even show it working. But none the less, glad it solved your problem, short term.... Pretty much a waist of 5mins tho.
I have 3 family members that all live within 2 miles of me, all with a 1 HP deep well pump, and we all irrigate our lawns twice a week. I have changed the pumps on all 3 and never had to touch mine because the house had a CSV installed when built. This was in a ten year time frame. I'm convinced this valve does the job.
I came here after finding CSV for the exact same reasons you are; installing lawn irrigation and noticed the pump "relay" cycling ever 47 seconds and I thought, "This can't be good.". After a deep dive into figuring out what tank and well pump I had, I did a deep dive into how and why this system works drawdown, GPM, pressure, tank size tradeoff etc. That's when I found CSV's website. I'm a software engineer too! And yes, I was like...."This website is kinda 2008", but then I read the product descriptions and came to the conclusion this guy knows what he's talking about. I'm commenting here because I think you're my brother from another mother. LOL. Anyway, Looks like I'll be getting one this week. Thanks for the video!
Great product and company. Terrible website. LOL. My issue turned out to be just that my tank didn't match my pump pressure switch. Once I set them both correctly short short cycling went away.
@@OurBlackCatCottage Sorry. Been working on the web site since web sites began. That is what a web site looks like that was made by an old well driller trying to explain a very beneficial but counter intuitive product. :)
15 years with mine. Never touched it since installed. Works great. 55 psi all the time.
Great video! Thanks for the explanation. Quick question: Does your cycle stop valve make any noise (hissing, water flowing noises) when operating? I am thinking of installing one but it would have to be in a basement living area, so excess noise would be an issue. Thanks.
I have moved from that house but I sure don't remember any extra noise from it.
This is great! Thanks for the kind words. The CSV web page was put together by the same old well driller that makes the Cycle Stop Valves. Any help from you in that area would be greatly appreciated. Lol! Also, to the haters that say you didn't show anything working. Watching what a Cycle Stop Valves is like watching an old man fish. Not much happening, which is the point. The CSV just makes the pressure gauge stay at 40 PSI (in your case) no matter how many or how few faucets, sprinklers, or showers you have on at the same time. You could have shown how the system cycles on and off between 30 and 50 over and over before adding the CSV. But after adding the CSV it just sits at 40 no matter how you use the water. Thanks for the video. Adding you to my channel. Cary
You did a great job explaining how the CSV works even before you installed it. Most people still don't understand how the CSV works even after they install it and are standing there watching it work.
Not knocking you at all, but I assumed you were no expert as soon as I saw the amount of fittings and primer all over the place in the video. It was good for a laugh. The finished product looks much better!
Glad you enjoyed it.
It looks like you tried to murder those pipes with the primer running all over the place
Grimace drive by
I thought the same thing. High current wiring not in conduit is a bit scary.
The seems like 10 minute arrival time has turned into over a 6 day arrival. Now changing airline tickets according the CSV arrival. Thanks for the misleading shipping time. Taking the CSV with me overseas. Looking on the bright side I get to visit with the family for a few more extra days. :)
Sorry for your problem. But I will bet it was shipped the day you ordered, We get them out as soon as we can because we have no control over the freight once it leaves. Sometimes they make us look good, other times not so much. I hope you enjoy it. Sorry they are not available overseas. The rest of the world wants American to purchase from them but prevent us from competing with them. :(
Hey Little Cat Cottage, Can you give us an update? I've heard some back and forth between the sales pitch and those that think this doesn't help the pump. Do you have a comparison of your electric bill using the CSV and what your general usage of the well has been (i.e. cottage life, lots of farming, etc.)? This may be the deciding factor for many people.
It is hard to gauge electric usage because it is all on solar. My main house is still on city water, and the small apartment that the well services still is under construction so I only use it to irrigate and I do that everyday for about 4 hours.
The front lawn was the biggest problem before and now the on/off issue is gone. Before it would cycle on/off almost every minute for 40 minutes. It was horrible. I haven't had any issues since I installed the CSV.
I am not an expert at all. I barely understand how all of this works but I know that this has worked great for me.
I hope this helps.
Does this CSV make an enormous back pressure on the well pump, which can cause the pump to be damaged?
Its my understanding that it does cause the pipes to have more pressure so you have to make sure they are all in good working order. I haven't heard anything about it adding pressure to the actual well pump. But this is all very new to me.
if your pump cycles repeatedly, check the 'dry pressure' in your pressure tank before you do anything! this value should be 2-3 psi less than the cut-in pressure for your pressure switch. not sure what the 'cycle stop valve' costs, but it's probably more than what you'd pay for a pressure tank with more usable volume (draw-down), without limiting the overall pressure & flow to your system.
Both compatible. If you're using a lot of water at one time, this works great and also if your space is confined for a bladder tank. The valves also gives you continuous pressure while showering and such. I've had one on my system for years and it works great.
Does it seem to be working properly? Did you have them adjust it at the factory to 40psi for your 30-50 system? That is what I have my pressure switch set to as well. My tank needs to be replaced and I’m considering going this route with a small tank
I set it to 47 psi and it seems to be working great. This is all new to me so it is still a learning experience. So far the only thing that could be an issue is that you need to make sure your pipes can take the back pressure.
why were you cycling to fast? Do you have a water storage tank? What is the size of your pressure tank? What is the size of your motor? So little information, only, its cool. Are you sure this was the best way?
Running a high demand irrigation system.
Sprinkle with more than 1 line at a time and your pressure system will just stay on because it won't fill up and turn off. If you want to keep your pump running there are simpler ways to make it happen.
Thanks for the tip!
How's about a demonstration of the device in use? A before/after would have been useful as well. This video is full of a bunch of cheer for team Cycle Stop Valves but no evidence that the valve works as claimed.
I like the pvc in their a disaster waiting to happen.
mine is probably even worse. They work fine.
"Does it work and is it worth the money?" --- This is the title to your video of which you didn't answer either question!! Before you install it you say how great it is and how great the company is, wtf?? Just cause they sent it to you in two days doesn't make the valve "the coolest unit in the history of the universe"... What a waste of time!
Agreed!
yes, sounds like it was recorded by the CSV employee, seems so fake
No expert on using the purple pipe cleaner 🤣😂😆 lol jkjk, just use the clear next time please lol
LOL. Fair enough.
Lol all in good fun
COMIC SANS!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
"It's working fine, that's it for today" - That's the extent your experience? What a worthless clickbait video. Spend some time actually reviewing the product working after installing it instead of rehashing all the basic info we can read ourselves.
"Does it work?" I don't know. Never saw it working.
"Is it worth the money?" I don't know. Whats it cost? What are the savings?
About as worthless a video as I've seen.
Sounds like someone should do some research.
PVC is not for potable water, what a mess that primer is.cycle stop valves are junk,use the correct amount of sprinklers keep pump running.
I thought SCH 40 was acceptable for potable water below 140F. If he's irrigating for lengthy periods, and the CSV simply keeps the pump on preventing short cycle,wouldn't it extend the life of the pump?
PVC is acceptable for water service main piping. Not for distribution inside the house.
a little knowledge is dangerous, as evidence of that mess of a plumbing job you did there! So much crap on the internet. Best to preface your videos with "this is just my opinion and I really don't know anything about this"... you kind of did. Perhaps that pressure valve is a great item! but you praised it before you even had installed it! Hmmmm. didn't even show it working. But none the less, glad it solved your problem, short term.... Pretty much a waist of 5mins tho.