Hillsong Pastor Carl Lentz Wears Supreme And Is Friends With Justin Bieber

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  • @VICENews
    @VICENews  7 років тому +145

    Carl Lentz has become so relevant that he has been granted access to meetings with Oprah and the White House.
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    • @riot8130
      @riot8130 7 років тому +18

      It talks about the rich in the bible too...fake preachers about money!

    • @sshilgy
      @sshilgy 6 років тому +6

      dumb interview by VICE.
      Carl Lentz is a man of GOD.

    • @Daniel-Tiger
      @Daniel-Tiger 6 років тому +18

      Lentz is a fraud.

    • @sshilgy
      @sshilgy 6 років тому +5

      dumb interview by VICE.
      Carl Lentz is a man of GOD.

    • @riot8130
      @riot8130 6 років тому +8

      Hilgy carl lentz is a man of money cons his followers...definitely not a man of god if he followed in jesus foot steps he wouldnt be portraying himself like he does....theres a reason jesus wore a robe,rode on a donkey,washed peoples feet. Instead of being in gold and wearing expensive name brand cloths ..from the money he gets from his followers he could actually be helping people but he's more concerned with merchandise and making a platinum band....these same people would of followed jim jones and drank the kool aide

  • @josephzanes7334
    @josephzanes7334 4 роки тому +956

    Carl Lentz *Elevate yourself*
    Satan *elevate yourself*
    Christ *humble yourself*

    • @itsallfunandgamestil
      @itsallfunandgamestil 3 роки тому +31

      @@pastorjosephprince7616 be quiet satan

    • @notskilledskater9780
      @notskilledskater9780 3 роки тому +9

      @@pastorjosephprince7616
      Shut up. Everyone know that this is false. I seen these comments every where i n all You Tube videos

    • @marjoredixon3846
      @marjoredixon3846 3 роки тому +9

      @@pastorjosephprince7616 Yes God knows u need to repent. REBUKE U IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS.

    • @Idagrown
      @Idagrown 3 роки тому +5

      @@pastorjosephprince7616 no he didn't. you're not a prophet.

    • @jezusova
      @jezusova 3 роки тому +1

      aameeen!

  • @jungleharmony_
    @jungleharmony_ 6 років тому +902

    If a Christian in my generation needs to learn anything right now, it's humility. Please pray for my generation--full of vanity & confusion. Carl Lentz, be a leader & drop your ego. Please.

    • @juicenmemi9508
      @juicenmemi9508 5 років тому +30

      It takes courage to say what you just said! God bless you 🙏

    • @oliviabattle404
      @oliviabattle404 4 роки тому

      Have any of you actually been to a service or listened to one of his sermons?

    • @rhino202
      @rhino202 4 роки тому +11

      His ego and coolness are what have propelled him to e their spokesman. That church believes and practices some very questionable and satanic-driven ideals (lying on graves to raise the dead, prosperity preaching, etc)

    • @philip9566
      @philip9566 4 роки тому +8

      @@oliviabattle404 yes. He is vain. Materialistic. Sincere yes but very very imperfect. Not pastor material.

    • @benlee5039
      @benlee5039 4 роки тому +6

      @@oliviabattle404 hes a prosperity teacher, a wolf in sheep clothing.

  • @cysco5637
    @cysco5637 4 роки тому +544

    Came here after it was announced he was fired for cheating on his wife.

    • @branholo5814
      @branholo5814 4 роки тому +49

      Wolves in sheep's clothing

    • @a.f6435
      @a.f6435 4 роки тому +17

      A 5 month realtionship with another 34 yr woman, they dated for a week after he revealed cheated on his wife

    • @branholo5814
      @branholo5814 4 роки тому +9

      @@a.f6435 Yeah that's true she did keep dating him even after he said he was married.

    • @blackhearted_af
      @blackhearted_af 4 роки тому +14

      @@branholo5814 Honestly everyone is in the wrong, it’s now pretty much up to the wife and I hope she leaves his ass.

    • @catebartley9865
      @catebartley9865 4 роки тому +7

      Same. Disappointed. People are so against Christianity now and I'm far from saintly. Just saying makes followers look like hypocrites and he got caught it ain't like he came out and confessed. Need more great modeks.

  • @turdferguson2982
    @turdferguson2982 5 років тому +878

    You can't serve two masters.

    • @freddhernanadez2230
      @freddhernanadez2230 4 роки тому +9

      @Tee Jay yes OUR enemies. This heretic wolf in sheep's clothing is an enemy of our Lord Jesus Christ not mine so........

    • @freddhernanadez2230
      @freddhernanadez2230 4 роки тому

      @Tee JayI know those verses in Scripture. re read comment above.

    • @freddhernanadez2230
      @freddhernanadez2230 4 роки тому

      @Tee Jay ok

    • @beckymesterhazi4624
      @beckymesterhazi4624 4 роки тому +1

      My Nan always says this x

    • @log5426
      @log5426 3 роки тому

      @Tee Jay Jesus says human enemies not their sin and most definitely not THE enemy, Satan.
      We can forgive and still show compassion/mercy to our enemies or sinners, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to have power and influence over us. Both are sins, not loving and showing compassion to sinners AND putting up sinners to guide the sheep.

  • @koolbeanz7902
    @koolbeanz7902 4 роки тому +1240

    And now look at him. God warned us of false teachers.

    • @JADiaz10
      @JADiaz10 3 роки тому +37

      Just cause he fucked up doesn’t mean he’s a false prophet. He was never a prophet to begin with 🥴

    • @koolbeanz7902
      @koolbeanz7902 3 роки тому +8

      False prophet false teacher whatever they want view him as and your right he never was to begin with.

    • @nicinat0r
      @nicinat0r 3 роки тому +2

      What did he do?

    • @daveo2431
      @daveo2431 3 роки тому +18

      @@nicinat0r Fired for infidelity.

    • @daveo2431
      @daveo2431 3 роки тому +21

      @Tanaka Makondesa Were King David and Abraham not corrected and humbled by God? Didn't they have consequences? And when were they appointed as pastors or shepherds to God's people? That's what makes this more serious.

  • @nas487
    @nas487 4 роки тому +1238

    When he says, I dress like you. Does he think we all wear supreme? And Gucci? Who is he talking to?

    • @Mr.grubby
      @Mr.grubby 4 роки тому +76

      He is a phony he doing it for money

    • @joehallam1231
      @joehallam1231 4 роки тому +29

      @@Mr.grubby right on, just look at the dollar sign on his shirt!...

    • @blessedservantofthelordcou9548
      @blessedservantofthelordcou9548 4 роки тому +30

      Right?.. Like my apparel is either from thrift shops or Walmart on a good day. I couldn't afford the clothes these head pastors wear now days..

    • @Mr.grubby
      @Mr.grubby 4 роки тому +25

      @@blessedservantofthelordcou9548 yea even if i could afford it thats some ugly clothes

    • @blessedservantofthelordcou9548
      @blessedservantofthelordcou9548 4 роки тому +1

      @Mariam Tsehay lol RIGHT?!

  • @lauroandrea3241
    @lauroandrea3241 3 роки тому +330

    I don't know how nobody saw this guy as a giant walking red-flag

    • @FinnD777
      @FinnD777 2 роки тому +17

      A lot of people did. He was only ever really popular with people who wanted a form of Christianity that moulded around them instead of them moulding around the bible. Churches like Hillsong or Bethel are not accepted by most Christians because of the amount of terrible things that have been released about them, and their general idea of a fluffy god. With Christians there are those who go way too legalistic and there are those like this guy who are all about having a great time. As with almost all things the truth is in the middle

    • @CrosbyStill
      @CrosbyStill 2 роки тому

      Many of us seen it from the beginning. The church doesn't bother cos he is part of the package. The whole gang is making a mockery of the church deliberately.

    • @maytalmurray7556
      @maytalmurray7556 2 роки тому +2

      Totally, can see right thought him

    • @CrosbyStill
      @CrosbyStill 2 роки тому

      @@maytalmurray7556 within the church if this is the kind of people they want in their leadership, then definitely they wont recognise their own bad decisions n on the contrary they may feel he is god sent especially looking at the crowd he's able to pull in.

    • @mrfake675
      @mrfake675 2 роки тому

      I sure did

  • @timothymarchant
    @timothymarchant 5 років тому +909

    She should have asked "does doing shots with Justin bring you closer or further away from Jesus"

    • @enigma2297
      @enigma2297 5 років тому +40

      Completely get where your coming from cause of the company he is keeping but remember drinking in itself is not a sin, its being a drunker and drinking until your in a drunken stooper is what the bible says is wicked

    • @stephenblackwell5533
      @stephenblackwell5533 5 років тому

      I didn't see shot glass that was a phone in his hand

    • @timothymarchant
      @timothymarchant 5 років тому +7

      @@enigma2297 this is very true.. although youre usually doing shots to get drunk.. but I only saw a video of him doing it once. Its a still a question id be curious what he would answer with

    • @notjunior5816
      @notjunior5816 5 років тому +5

      @@timothymarchant dude...drinking is okay, if your doing it to get drunk it isn't

    • @hevenlyfire
      @hevenlyfire 5 років тому +14

      Some churches said wine is ok some others said isn’t but the true is in US culture its not well seen for a a Christian to drink because that has made a lot of others to fall so I don’t drink because I can’t I just do it because the souls of my brothers and sisters and the new to come

  • @edwinchung6420
    @edwinchung6420 3 роки тому +279

    You can tell the interviewer was sus bout him the whole time lol

  • @JayyVee41
    @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +658

    Imagine if Jesus said “I’m a hustler of the culture.” 🤣 cmon Carl. You’re a joker

    • @punkrocknestor
      @punkrocknestor 4 роки тому +7

      Jesus wasn't raised in the american culture

    • @benlee5039
      @benlee5039 4 роки тому +4

      @@punkrocknestor doesnt matter, culture is culture

    • @freddhernanadez2230
      @freddhernanadez2230 4 роки тому +19

      @@benlee5039 this false teacher and heretic just got busted for adultery.

    • @uncleiroh4650
      @uncleiroh4650 4 роки тому +2

      I mean, Jesus did kind of “hustle” culture, in the sense that Christians believe he showed humans the error in their ways and used their culture to spread a message.

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +8

      @@uncleiroh4650 yeah really hustled people by telling them to repent and believe 🤔

  • @purodesmadre1
    @purodesmadre1 3 роки тому +349

    The reporter is a straight shooter. I love how she gets right to the heart of the matter and doesn't let him squirm out of answering her questions.

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly 3 роки тому +22

      "I dress like you"
      "You wear Rick Owens"
      I googled Rick Owens and a pair of jeans costs $980 😂😂😂

    • @sigma_curry
      @sigma_curry 2 роки тому

      wtf r u talking abt, he just answered the question and there was no follow ups

    • @IZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
      @IZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR 2 роки тому +1

      Kind of seemed like he wanted to himself. "yeah yknow i was in the room with a lot of big important people yknow, just on the sly, white house stuff."

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad Рік тому +1

      She asked terrible questions tho. Marriage equality? No religion supports gay sex fetishes. Obviously.

    • @Jj_2723
      @Jj_2723 10 місяців тому +1

      Just wish these reporters would ask the same hard hitting questions to people like Biden too

  • @ouaispasmal
    @ouaispasmal 3 роки тому +132

    even without the scandal, the fact that he's friends with hollywood A-listers, the way he dresses, etc should be MAJOR red flags

    • @jose79064
      @jose79064 3 роки тому +2

      to you

    • @Dan_Therapist
      @Dan_Therapist 3 роки тому +1

      hes stylish. Yall want your pastors to wear Khakis or some shiet

    • @dannyarcher9002
      @dannyarcher9002 3 роки тому

      @@Dan_Therapist
      Delusional Christian detected.
      Keep coping with false prophets bro

    • @GetUnwoke
      @GetUnwoke 2 роки тому +4

      @@Dan_Therapist You say "stylish" I say he's vain and conceited and superficial and he dresses like that to attract people physically to him.

    • @Dan_Therapist
      @Dan_Therapist 2 роки тому +2

      @@GetUnwoke lets say he did? so. It's not immoral to be attractive is it? name me a verse? because you're coming across as being puritanical for the sake of being puritanical

  • @khole15
    @khole15 6 років тому +335

    if you believe this is a true christian, you are REALLY lost, seek God

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +10

      Amen

    • @vilili8785
      @vilili8785 4 роки тому +10

      He may not follow the conservative rules of the church, but he makes other people happy and gives them a purpose in life and makes them believe in God, but he just does it in a another way than the usual priest

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +23

      vilili nah Carl can’t preach the Word correctly to save his life. A true false teacher through and through

    • @vilili8785
      @vilili8785 4 роки тому

      @@JayyVee41 he may not preach the exact word as in the Bible, but at least he spreads love and peace and wisdom. That is what God wants. Not everything should be about God. God said to spread love, this is what this man is doing which is good right?

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +27

      vilili Um no, pastors actually need to preach the entire Word of God correctly. Love at the expense of truth is not love. Please tell me you’re joking

  • @mychannel5628
    @mychannel5628 7 років тому +803

    These "megachurch pastors" are actually businessmen/entrepreneurs 💯💯

    • @mychannel5628
      @mychannel5628 7 років тому +50

      And this is coming from a girl who was forced into one of the biggest churches in Washington state for 10 years. I also traveled around the U.S. to attend the most popular church conferences and missionary trips. THESE PASTORS, THEIR WIVES, AND THEIR TEAMS ARE CORRUPT. Stop giving them your time/trust/money.

    • @mychannel5628
      @mychannel5628 7 років тому +15

      Shem Obviously it's great to be an entrepreneur and give motivational speeches. The problem is, that isn't true Christianity. It's just a motivational speech! They are basically like a Tony Robbins with a scripture sprinkled here and there.

    • @GrandmasterFerg
      @GrandmasterFerg 7 років тому +6

      All major world religion are ran by "businessmen/entrepreneurs", they gain profit from the faith of their followers and tax free at that.
      Supreme might be an expensive brand but it costs nothing compared to priceless paintings, golden idols and marble architecture.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 7 років тому

      Since the dawn of organized Religion within a civilized tribe or village.

    • @myjizzureye
      @myjizzureye 7 років тому +1

      Aanika Beth Anderson Oh and you know what true Christianity is?
      Let me guess, out of the 32'000 registered denominations you happen to know the "correct" one?
      Would you care to explain to us how you know you have the correct one. Is it by testable, repeatable, falsifiable means or "feels".
      To be a real christian you only need to say murdering an innocent person is a valid way to forgive, thats the core. Vicarious redemption and its immoral, twisted and demonstrably wrong.

  • @LuisLopez-sf1zt
    @LuisLopez-sf1zt 6 років тому +351

    “We’re not here to make a performance or a show” yet there’s strobes all over the place

    • @jaker.campillo1667
      @jaker.campillo1667 4 роки тому +7

      What are you suggesting @Luis Lopez? so, the fact that there're lights and music it makes of a service a show? so, let's say someone close to you get's married and they hire some sound equipment and lights for their wedding. Would the light and sound equipment make of that wedding a show? Lights and sound equipment are used for diverse purposes, friend, and as they are used for shows, they are not exclusively used for that.
      I don't think it makes of a wedding or this kind of services a show at all. I've worked in the Industry of Entertainment and believe me, lights have the purpose to create a visual atmosphere and draw people's attention and focus to the front. Now, you may worship in a very different way, without lights, without too much noise, perhaps, and that's fine. There're others that preffer a visual atmosphere to do so, and that's fine too. Different is not wrong, just different.

    • @Bhnbhn
      @Bhnbhn 4 роки тому +6

      Simply said, if an outsider was looking into the mass without context, they would’ve thought it was a concert. All I saw is a show and that’s that. Pretty sure there are far better choices of lighting to make up a spiritual atmosphere.

    • @benlee5039
      @benlee5039 4 роки тому +7

      @@jaker.campillo1667 But Church is different. We are the show, and God is the audience. By adding lights that focus on the band, it takes away from God's glory. Its not the band we are focusing on, but God.

    • @jaker.campillo1667
      @jaker.campillo1667 4 роки тому

      @@benlee5039 There are not specifications in the Bible (New Testament) about what items should we use or not on a Sunday service, your reference I'm assuming is based on tradition or your own experience (what you have observed in your own cotext). There's no show going on at all, and there's no too much difference between Hillsong and other Christian churches when it comes to the worship session, besides the lighting and equipment. Hillsong just really likes to put excellence on the picture, something professional because as you said, it is for God and God deserves our best, doesn't He? Must evangelical churches have musical instruments and people on stage performing, and the audience look at them too, because these people on stage are leading the audience to worship Jesus. If you are a Christian and your church has a band standing and performing on a stage, the same argument you said applies too, "They are getting the attention of people instead of focusing on God" or "the band are taking the glory from people instead of letting people glorify God". If was to say that, I'd be ignoring that must likely people are actually following the worship leaders in that Church to ultimately adore, glorify and exalt God. I think a lot of people have a problem with the fact that some churches use lighting because they are used for non Christian shows too, well, guess what, they use instruments, microphones and sound system for concerts and non Christian events too as they use then in many Christian Churches, what's the problem with that? at the end of the day they are tools, aren't they?

    • @jaker.campillo1667
      @jaker.campillo1667 3 роки тому +2

      @CLOUT Well, I wasn't defending his behaviour for that specific matter but for "hanging out with unbelievers". Now, what I can't defend is people (or brands) for how careless they express themselves for others when Jesus said "Love your neighbour as you love yourself" (doesn't matter what religion, different belief system or preference they got, even if in our eyes they are wrong). But, I wish nothing but good for you. Blessings.

  • @azaelia2000
    @azaelia2000 3 роки тому +95

    It's so weird even before his scandal came out,I was never a fan of him. He gives out a very narcistic vibe and has no ounce of humility. Which is a really important virtue we as Christins must strive to be.

    • @bean5976
      @bean5976 3 роки тому +6

      My old youth pastor was like this and I promise you the energy that comes from them isn’t a nice one even to me a non christian

    • @theharshtruthoutthere
      @theharshtruthoutthere 8 місяців тому

      @@bean5976 Souls, know it,
      we are no longer baptize by water, WE ARE BAPTIZED BY HOLY SPIRIT.
      Acts Chapter 10
      44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
      Acts 1:5 KJV
      For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
      Acts 11:16 KJV
      Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
      Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Galatians 3:27 - For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
      Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
      Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      John 14:26 KJV
      But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
      John 15:26 KJV
      But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
      What sins babies committed that they need baptized?
      the reason, adults think, "baby baptized" saved them?
      BIBLE gives picture, that the worry of being baptized and right with GOD, is each adult`s worry.
      ADULTS SIN, NOT BABIES.

  • @mm369
    @mm369 4 роки тому +152

    This dude was just trying to “get famous” by friending celebrities

    • @zayapouriamei2656
      @zayapouriamei2656 3 роки тому

      Jesus the friends of sinners John 8:1-11

    • @ivorenesmith9003
      @ivorenesmith9003 3 роки тому +3

      @@zayapouriamei2656 Jesus wasn't friends with sinners, he was in their presence to teach them about God. His real friends were his disciples - John 15:14,15

    • @zayapouriamei2656
      @zayapouriamei2656 3 роки тому

      @@ivorenesmith9003 likewise Hillsong pastor also wants to teach them about God that's why he makes friend with them

    • @ivorenesmith9003
      @ivorenesmith9003 3 роки тому +2

      @@zayapouriamei2656 Not a good idea. Being friendly and cordial with someone, treating them with respect and dignity is different from being friends with them... "Adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is making himself an enemy of God" - James 4:4
      Jesus was friends with only those who already aligned their lives in harmony with God's will and not before that.

    • @GetUnwoke
      @GetUnwoke 2 роки тому

      LOL he wanted to get a reality tv show deal or something after the scandal broke loose because he thought he was famous enough at that point to make money in Hollywood rather than be a pastor.

  • @bridgetteeftha8950
    @bridgetteeftha8950 5 років тому +355

    There is nothing holy about this church

    • @Jw-un8oh
      @Jw-un8oh 5 років тому +8

      Or any church, God, or religion.

    • @wokeup1969
      @wokeup1969 5 років тому +7

      Con man

    • @candletabletop154
      @candletabletop154 5 років тому +32

      @@Jw-un8oh why search for christian content to intrude on discussions amongst christians? we are not going to be influenced by a nameless youtube account. what exactly is your angle?

    • @Ran-he5ij
      @Ran-he5ij 4 роки тому +2

      @Natok Mania bruh yk ive been reading soo soo much and now what should we do??
      everything seems to be wrong or evil...now u say hillsong seels music and some guy talked about how they preach false teachings....so what should we listen to and who should be believe?

    • @marybell5644
      @marybell5644 4 роки тому +2

      @@Ran-he5ij it’s just chaos and confusion

  • @toshiwalling1592
    @toshiwalling1592 3 роки тому +94

    Apart for giving powerful messages and speeches , He seems to have spent most of his time kindling relationships with the rich influential celebrities rather than going around helping the poor, the sick, the homeless, the broken. Really, Humbleness is the basic criteria for any person to do good and be good.

    • @NubiansNapata
      @NubiansNapata 3 роки тому +4

      What powerful message 🤣🤣

    • @moses1488
      @moses1488 2 роки тому

      yes .True.

    • @CrosbyStill
      @CrosbyStill 2 роки тому +2

      You can tell by the fruits they bear. Delivering power messages n speeches shouldn't be use as a yard stick to measure whether a speaker is a born again Christian who's life has been transformed by Christ bcos you can hire a very good speaker from the business world n mould him into another "powerful Christian speaker" n he will definitely deliver the results. So be careful of judging men based on outward appearance n attractions cos that is how we often fell for those scams. I know of a humble ex pastor who still go to the market with a sigh "free prayers" to pray with those in need. Its a humble sight to see him doing that which Im sure many rich pastor will not do, cos it looks "funny sitting there with a sigh" , people may laugh at you, etc. Such humble christian I respect alot. It shows his genuine love for the Lord. He dont need the big stage, bright lights, beautiful punchy music to do Gods ministry.

    • @nineteenfortyeight
      @nineteenfortyeight 2 роки тому +3

      Not fair. He spends a lot of his time on adultery.

    • @CrosbyStill
      @CrosbyStill 2 роки тому +2

      Messages need not be powerful if its God's Messages. He can speak in a still small voice. Not always those brimstone and fire messages. That is why some Christians are weak bcos they go around seeking powerful Messages, dynamic preachers, colourful characters speakers, dynamic solid musics, lights n sounds, big congregations, nice outward appearance n says that those humble small pew churches are dead n outdated! Satan always knows what tickles our ears!

  • @jamesmitchell6288
    @jamesmitchell6288 5 років тому +431

    As soon as I saw him with Oprah, I was done.

    • @stephenblackwell5533
      @stephenblackwell5533 5 років тому +12

      You would have been done with Jesus when you saw Him with the sinners of that day as well then. You have to be around people to influence them doesn't mean he condones her beliefs.

    • @jamesmitchell6288
      @jamesmitchell6288 5 років тому +25

      @@stephenblackwell5533 I have watched this crackpot. He is no different. Fake,fake,fake

    • @sneakz827
      @sneakz827 5 років тому +14

      So wearing the same worldly clothes and doing worldly things(drinking and partying) is influencing them?

    • @stephenblackwell5533
      @stephenblackwell5533 5 років тому +1

      @@sneakz827 Nobody said drinking and partying is okay so have you seen him do that?

    • @sneakz827
      @sneakz827 5 років тому +7

      he did shots with justin bieber

  • @MP-yc2ou
    @MP-yc2ou 6 років тому +168

    " Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. "
    (Luke 6: 26)

  • @ashmaq49
    @ashmaq49 7 років тому +1645

    I bet those glasses don't even have a prescription foh

    • @GERAH717
      @GERAH717 7 років тому +25

      ashmaq49 the typical hipster

    • @aleksslopanovs
      @aleksslopanovs 7 років тому +3

      ashmaq49 lol so truth

    • @ganjasage
      @ganjasage 7 років тому +4

      He's just honey dickin'

    • @WeMeetInOurDreams
      @WeMeetInOurDreams 7 років тому +3

      they don't, light bends different with prescription glasses

    • @wmurray003
      @wmurray003 7 років тому +21

      They do... a prescription of "Swag Sauce 2000MG"

  • @amazinggrace9422
    @amazinggrace9422 5 років тому +233

    Not everyone who says to Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in your name..then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7: 21-23
    That's all that needs to be said.

    • @CIA-CLONE-b41
      @CIA-CLONE-b41 5 років тому +3

      Where did it say he didn't believe in God. You can both be a great pastor and a Christian. Who are you to judge other people on their walk with Jesus?

    • @lynettedevries1824
      @lynettedevries1824 5 років тому +16

      Micah Cole, Pastors ought to be good role models not blend in this this debauched world. He has a pair of openly homosexual men leading the music not to mention being filmed drinking shots at a bar with Justin Bieber and they both removed their shirts. Carl also hangs around with hip hop singers etc and loves doing the devil horns sign. I'm sure he could still find fashionable sneakers for under $700.

    • @CIA-CLONE-b41
      @CIA-CLONE-b41 5 років тому +1

      @@lynettedevries1824 I'm still talking about judging other people on their walk with God. He has his problems. Everyone does. No man is perfect.

    • @abranluevano
      @abranluevano 5 років тому +1

      Amen.

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому +3

      @@lynettedevries1824 Illuminati - vatican puppet

  • @rashad123us
    @rashad123us 3 роки тому +140

    *I love her straight to the point questions, passively calling him out on his bullshit.*

    • @iloveyoushima
      @iloveyoushima 2 роки тому

      This guy's a vile creep and Jesus while probably, personally, send him straight to hell.

  • @yems7586
    @yems7586 7 років тому +235

    Please, don't base your impression of Christianity on men alone, read the bible yourself and look to Jesus.

    • @adamgoodword7888
      @adamgoodword7888 7 років тому +2

      Amen!! Best comment ever!!! Well done Yems7!!
      Praise Jesus!!!

    • @youtubecommentreviewer9196
      @youtubecommentreviewer9196 7 років тому

      👍🏽

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 6 років тому +4

      Read it again and try to be critical. It's full of flaws. The bible has been altered a lot throughout history it's inaccurate.

    • @StylinSis3189
      @StylinSis3189 6 років тому

      Amen!

    • @waflletoast11
      @waflletoast11 6 років тому

      Letting gay people in your church isn't such a good impression

  • @billybuckingham8263
    @billybuckingham8263 6 років тому +755

    A friend of the world is not a friend of God

    • @abralard3512
      @abralard3512 6 років тому +21

      Billy Buckingham Preach, brother

    • @antoniorebelo4318
      @antoniorebelo4318 6 років тому +33

      It depends on how you define the world... and what the world is in reference to. I myself won't claim to know exactly how to define the world in a biblical context, but I know it's written in John 3:16 that God loved the world (For God so loved the world) so I'd like to hear someone's take on that compared to other verses that call us to reject the world. Can God love something, and at the same time tell us to hate it? Obviously not, so maybe it is a more complicated subject

    • @billybuckingham8263
      @billybuckingham8263 6 років тому +38

      That is a very good point. Im saying whoever stands for Christ is gonna get some heat from unbelievers. Jesus was crucified by the world

    • @antoniorebelo4318
      @antoniorebelo4318 6 років тому +9

      Billy Buckingham Yeah I agree. Since Jesus is the light and the world is in darkness

    • @fjcruiser7460
      @fjcruiser7460 6 років тому +23

      U can’t serve two Gods. U can’t be friends of the world especially Hollywood.

  • @popescufilip2352
    @popescufilip2352 7 років тому +505

    He clearly skips legs day

    • @EdwardGFunk
      @EdwardGFunk 6 років тому +7

      your mother skips legs day

    • @goosetavio
      @goosetavio 6 років тому +15

      you have to skip leg day if you want to wear that slp denim lol

    • @Aye_handsome
      @Aye_handsome 6 років тому +2

      big legs are ugly

    • @zapsst2060
      @zapsst2060 6 років тому +4

      Well everybody knows chest and arms are the holy day

    • @carryeveryday910
      @carryeveryday910 6 років тому

      Popescu Filip leg*

  • @fatimaadreeta6122
    @fatimaadreeta6122 2 роки тому +21

    "Bible was clear about marriage being between a man and a woman"
    Well, bible also was clear about not cheating on the wife, especially with the nanny.

  • @Emporkommling
    @Emporkommling 7 років тому +598

    Her reaction at the end made the video, “Which administration?”
    “This one.”
    “Oh...” xD

    • @harisnanda
      @harisnanda 7 років тому +5

      what that those mean? I didn't get the references

    • @PearlJamIsAlive
      @PearlJamIsAlive 7 років тому +20

      Apri Harisnanda he's been invited to Trump's white house

    • @patrickgwinn1031
      @patrickgwinn1031 7 років тому +26

      I could see that meme with the math stuff all over it as she was processing that this guy might be apart of all the shit going on lmao

    • @AfroSamurai1089
      @AfroSamurai1089 7 років тому

      Scott Gwinn Same!

    • @LoudlabsNYC
      @LoudlabsNYC 7 років тому +6

      MAGA!

  • @alecg.8401
    @alecg.8401 5 років тому +153

    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mathew 7:15

    • @notjunior5816
      @notjunior5816 5 років тому +2

      Hillsong isn't false prophet

    • @hakimouaouich5058
      @hakimouaouich5058 5 років тому +1

      Who is the accuser by the way that accuses the believers day and night?!?

    • @notjunior5816
      @notjunior5816 5 років тому +1

      @@hakimouaouich5058 was that to alec?

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому +1

      If you are interested there'sa very good channel called tricksofthestrade that did an transvestigation based on anatomy on this pastor and another famous one (I cannot recall his name). Worth watching. Let me know what you think if you see it.

    • @akolangtohsilorence2287
      @akolangtohsilorence2287 5 років тому

      HILLSONG ISN'T BAD THEY BRING PEOPLE TO JESUS USING THEIR SONGS !!!

  • @lachlanmurdoch7567
    @lachlanmurdoch7567 7 років тому +277

    Theres a lot of things wrong with Hillsong, but this interview is kinda wack, is the marriage equality question really the thing you're trying to get answers to, or you just want to try a trap the dude into a corner.
    Keep interviewing people, but maybe fire that reporter.

    • @danaelona4081
      @danaelona4081 6 років тому +8

      lachlan harmer but also him trying to get out of the question was obvious

    • @TheAustinMarcus
      @TheAustinMarcus 6 років тому +1

      lachlan harmer I agree! But he did answer it well.

    • @lachlanmurdoch7567
      @lachlanmurdoch7567 6 років тому

      Dana H thats true he was around the bush with the answer, he probably didn't want to say something on record that went against what Hillsongs official stance is, so he backed off a little 😂

    • @lachlanmurdoch7567
      @lachlanmurdoch7567 6 років тому

      Austin Marcus i like his glasses too 😎

    • @andrek.1399
      @andrek.1399 6 років тому

      lachlan harmer FIRE THIS REPORTER!!! I agree

  • @dt9538
    @dt9538 4 роки тому +66

    i’m always so wary of pastors who try to fit into our world by buying into celebrity culture and living like the world and this is why.

    • @StevenSeagul783
      @StevenSeagul783 2 роки тому

      Celebrity’s are horrible people as it is so that’s a big red flag for me

    • @Eagle1349
      @Eagle1349 2 роки тому +4

      Christ and the first Christians are the role-models we should follow!

    • @jpdza2881
      @jpdza2881 2 роки тому +3

      The Bible says we are to be apart from the world . Not to fit in

    • @jonathanhughman154
      @jonathanhughman154 Рік тому

      Would you rather have no celebrities promoting christianity?

    • @dt9538
      @dt9538 Рік тому +4

      @@jonathanhughman154 yeah

  • @Ph.40Lowks
    @Ph.40Lowks 7 років тому +299

    Idk how serious I would take a pastor if he wore skinny jeans ,truckers hats v shirts

    • @AndreBalbuena
      @AndreBalbuena 7 років тому +3

      People all of ages take him seriously.

    • @AndreBalbuena
      @AndreBalbuena 7 років тому +5

      Then what kind of pastor you take it serious?

    • @onionblaster5150
      @onionblaster5150 7 років тому

      😂

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 7 років тому +18

      who cares man. it's the 21st century anybody can wear what they want to wear.

    • @cesarochoa2224
      @cesarochoa2224 7 років тому +1

      thats your perspective

  • @holden6104
    @holden6104 2 роки тому +9

    Never trust a jacked guy who wears a shirt like that to an interview.

  • @vaughnwilson477
    @vaughnwilson477 5 років тому +118

    When you preach feel good msg with no substance like Carl lentz you will pack the church.

    • @jackie12333
      @jackie12333 5 років тому

      What do you mean

    • @vaughnwilson477
      @vaughnwilson477 5 років тому +25

      Jackie B it’s easy to pack a church when you preach a feel good msg. Let’s see how packed his “church” is when he takes a stand against abortion, gay lifestyle, & sin... who cares how the guy dresses. I’m more concerned abt the substance of his msg. Jesus spoke more abt sin & hell than abt heaven or one’s purpose in life. Car lentz is a typical feel good preacher. He’s just repackaged in designer jeans.

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +13

      Vaughn Wilson amen. Yeah Carl has never preached on sin, repentance, self-denial, Hell, etc. Not to be a killjoy, but those are big parts of the Gospel message. When a preacher just preaches a Jesus that is only love, they’ve made an idol out Him. And yeah, I don’t care what he wears etc....but really that could be the problem too. His physical problem (the expensive clothes) could actually be his spiritual problem. Pastors like this want the world and they want Heaven. He wants all the nice things and he wants Jesus. Can’t have both

    • @euminkong
      @euminkong 4 роки тому +1

      @@jackie12333 read 2 Timothy 4:3

    • @nicdoe7436
      @nicdoe7436 4 роки тому

      For God so loved the world is about as feel good as it gets

  • @michelleroman5844
    @michelleroman5844 5 років тому +118

    BEWARE OF THINGS NOT OF CHRIST
    JESUS LOVES YOU

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      If you are interested there'sa very good channel called tricksofthestrade that did an transvestigation based on anatomy on this pastor and another famous one (I cannot recall his name). Worth watching. Let me know what you think if you see it.

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      @Becky - Boo there's the link.. I don't agree with everything he says.. Mostly what he says of no needs for pastors

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      @Becky - Boo ua-cam.com/video/F5JQZQ1bafE/v-deo.html

    • @twagoner21
      @twagoner21 3 роки тому

      why are you yelling?

  • @Blueveteran342
    @Blueveteran342 7 років тому +421

    The fact that these "Megachurches" even exist in the U.S. is just insane. In Europe churches are small old buildings that feel kind of special when you enter. Why do you have to make it a huge business with churches looking like stadiums. And people really go inside there to "praise god" ? Lmao.

    • @AlpineShenanigans
      @AlpineShenanigans 7 років тому +31

      ummmm, St. Peter's Basilica, Milan Cathedral, Seville Cathedral, Abbey of Santa Giustina, Liverpool Cathedral, Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls, Basilica-Cathedral of Our Lady of the Pillar, Florence Cathedral, Ulm Minster. There is only one American church that rivals any of these in terms of size. Big religious stuff like this has been in the United States since the 19th century, it's not all that new.

    • @aidilmubarock5394
      @aidilmubarock5394 7 років тому +1

      Blueveteran342 he have concert in Europe too, so?

    • @ben8557
      @ben8557 7 років тому +15

      Most churches in the Us are small. The megachurches just get more coverage. Although most churches in the U.S are not that old. This is especially true as you west because large scale settlement by Christians happened later in the western areas. The more west you go, the less old building and historical sites. (this is of course a generalization.. The US is really big in terms of population and geography)

    • @jorgehdz2030
      @jorgehdz2030 7 років тому

      Blueveteran342 In Mexico catholic churches are big (not mega churches like in the USA), and some are fancy and have luxury thinks and are located in poor communities.

    • @DimJongUn
      @DimJongUn 7 років тому +2

      In Soviet Russia, church forks you

  • @Kain_Mercer
    @Kain_Mercer 7 років тому +202

    That exchange at the end was so cringey
    "i've.. i've done ..White house stuff.. on the sly"
    "What does that mean?"
    "like... been in rooms with people who make big decisions"
    "Which administration?"
    "... uh .. . . this one"
    "Oh."

    • @goldenbowlandsilvercord2883
      @goldenbowlandsilvercord2883 7 років тому +2

      The exchange reminded me of a scene from Sin City 1

    • @EpicLionMusic
      @EpicLionMusic 7 років тому +19

      Vice cut it in a cringy way, he probably had some more to say.

    • @FeelingPeculiar
      @FeelingPeculiar 7 років тому +11

      It just shows that the media can't help but insert their liberal bias into everything

    • @surrealsupercell7217
      @surrealsupercell7217 7 років тому

      Amen

    • @ToniCarrington
      @ToniCarrington 6 років тому

      www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790346/it-s-obvious-paedophile-behaviour-repetitive-hillsong-s-brian-houston-believes-father-sexually-abused-victims-decade-fears-more.html

  • @drew7656
    @drew7656 7 років тому +309

    Don't let these emotion based church people stop you from finding Jesus yourself.

    • @thisnotjesus
      @thisnotjesus 7 років тому +1

      istayup what does it even mean to be "emotion based"

    • @drew7656
      @drew7656 7 років тому +22

      thisnotjesus alot of their belief is based on emotions and their feelings and what they think is true or not offensive. But not off the scriptures. Alot of what they teach is based off prosperity, better life now and riches. Alot of time when they come across a scripture that they find offensive, they try and contradict it.

    • @myjizzureye
      @myjizzureye 7 років тому +1

      istayup If you can find him it means he is alive. If he is alive then there was no sacrifice.

    • @thisnotjesus
      @thisnotjesus 7 років тому +4

      istayup so basically you just mean don't trust those who preach prosperity gospel

    • @kbdawg1000
      @kbdawg1000 7 років тому +7

      istayup exactly! These churches try way to hard to cater to the youth , when the youth should be trying to cater to the church. You rite, I went to a church like this and they preach nothing but feel good stories, no seriously praying or anything, just straight up motivational speech.

  • @sharieprendy4181
    @sharieprendy4181 3 роки тому +30

    😂😂 the ending was hilarious..the side eye...I can't stop laughing

  • @AHegberg
    @AHegberg 7 років тому +509

    guy looks like a con artist. bad vibes

    • @BenjiSince03
      @BenjiSince03 7 років тому +6

      Got those Vibes

    • @DivineVibrations9
      @DivineVibrations9 7 років тому +6

      I picked up on those same vibes.

    • @j_sher5569
      @j_sher5569 7 років тому +10

      All pastors/vicars are con artists

    • @haggard21077
      @haggard21077 7 років тому +7

      Probably became a pastor for the tax exemption

    • @nicki322
      @nicki322 7 років тому +1

      True

  • @sanyaua2
    @sanyaua2 7 років тому +45

    1 John 2:15
    Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

    • @MHEPPNER
      @MHEPPNER 7 років тому

      Matthew 7:1-5...

    • @mattwood1977
      @mattwood1977 7 років тому +3

      There's adifference between loving the world and living in it.

    • @sanyaua2
      @sanyaua2 7 років тому +6

      By the world , he means worldly culture. You’re not supposed to take on worldly culture. Meaning be modest and be a good example for others and not take examples from others. There’s been a big blurred line between secular concerts and Christian sermons. We are supposed to seek treasure in heaven, not on earth

    • @sanyaua2
      @sanyaua2 7 років тому +6

      I never judged anyone, if citing a bible verse makes you feel like I’m judging you, then blame the authors of the Bible . You can’t cite that verse every time you hear something you don’t like. You re supposed to help save fallen people when you see them fall, otherwise you are not doing Gods work. We’re supposed to be a light upon the world, be the salt of the earth , and not change our beliefs with what current society thinks is ok

    • @MHEPPNER
      @MHEPPNER 7 років тому

      So wearing a certain Tshirt is "being of the world"... you literally are judging a book by its cover... you realize that right? You are beyond help.

  • @dongcdfb7c
    @dongcdfb7c 6 років тому +247

    I don't trust him.

    • @goodjob7533
      @goodjob7533 5 років тому +1

      Isaiah 2:22
      Stop regarding man in whose nostrils is breath, for of what account is he?

    • @ellona3645
      @ellona3645 5 років тому

      I went to Hillsong NYC Church... I can't trust this dude....

    • @sierrasteward5913
      @sierrasteward5913 5 років тому

      DesignbyChesa why 🤔 someone explain

  • @rommelbanares1919
    @rommelbanares1919 4 роки тому +39

    NOT A CHANCE THAT THIS FOOL CAN DECEIVE ME.

  • @NSGLiv
    @NSGLiv 7 років тому +307

    I really despise megachurches

    • @mattwood1977
      @mattwood1977 7 років тому +2

      why?

    • @mattwood1977
      @mattwood1977 7 років тому +2

      What's wrong with that?

    • @ashleygomez7858
      @ashleygomez7858 7 років тому +39

      Yeah they’re out of control and too open nowadays. I don’t think they’re Pentecostal anymore it’s like a new age church. They all start out fine but end up being controlled by the world and letting worldly people influence their decision ; rather than the people conforming to the church and the Bible, the church conforms to the people just to keep numbers high. Too many leaders and people can get away with anything in the church. It seems all lukewarm and there’s no real connection with your pastor if you’re just a number. It is sad and these churches are the ones Paul spoke about.

    • @sprintonbeat
      @sprintonbeat 7 років тому +16

      Anti church people LOVE church when it’s small, quiet and not relevant. But as soon as it starts to have an actual positive impact on the world, “These megachurches are just in it for the money” People need to make up their minds 😂

    • @thehoneyeffect
      @thehoneyeffect 7 років тому +3

      SlimTheGreatTV they are a special kind of sin aren’t they. They are hubs for extreme greed, corruption, most of the time is a little bit of Secret depravity thrown in and copious amounts of my fav *Euro Jesus*
      Oh the rancidity

  • @gilc.4810
    @gilc.4810 7 років тому +637

    Lol her face at the end says it all

    • @MrKnexlover
      @MrKnexlover 7 років тому +28

      Belphegor Infinite trump invited a bunch of mega church pastors to the white house to pray for the country when he started in office. He only did it to win evangelicals over tho. He shows no real fruit or love in his heart for people like Jesus did.

    • @jamakasis18
      @jamakasis18 7 років тому +5

      Yeah, she's asian.

    • @vedametatron
      @vedametatron 7 років тому +10

      🤣😂😂her face says it all then it abruptly ends

    • @christwarrior-usa
      @christwarrior-usa 7 років тому +18

      She needs to get over herself

    • @wmurray003
      @wmurray003 7 років тому +10

      She looked like a deer in headlights the whole interview.

  • @TheGuitarpro3
    @TheGuitarpro3 7 років тому +367

    This man is banking off of these sheep.

    • @77dead
      @77dead 6 років тому +7

      IraqUpBeaches edgy as a butter knife

    • @NathanBrewerJoking
      @NathanBrewerJoking 6 років тому +6

      He’s also changing lives buuuut think what you want I guess

    • @tomhertz1614
      @tomhertz1614 6 років тому +11

      Blood Sweat & Brews God changes lives not this false teacher

    • @joshuabelding5013
      @joshuabelding5013 6 років тому

      yup

    • @roycastanon5754
      @roycastanon5754 6 років тому

      Tom Hertz pastors preach the word of God. Am I wrong?

  • @Lionscall111
    @Lionscall111 8 місяців тому +3

    He doesn’t have regular stuff on I don’t wear muscle T-shirts and timberlands when I represent my family or my God. Call it legalism but we should have a high respect for what God has given us. We are managers of a higher calling

  • @shawnfowler2659
    @shawnfowler2659 7 років тому +719

    WWJW...What Would Jesus Wear

    • @timetodeliverapizzaball
      @timetodeliverapizzaball 7 років тому +6

      He'd pick by most efficient sweatshop of course.

    • @matsgoodyear3068
      @matsgoodyear3068 7 років тому +9

      well, that's the most important question out there, isn't it?
      And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Romans 12,2

    • @h0tj0hn
      @h0tj0hn 7 років тому +3

      swagz 4 Jesus

    • @tuyishemezeirispascal8461
      @tuyishemezeirispascal8461 7 років тому +3

      SWAGG

    • @KIEFDABMASTERFLASH
      @KIEFDABMASTERFLASH 7 років тому +4

      WWYW - WHAT WOULD YEEZUS WEAR

  • @Muffinman17JG
    @Muffinman17JG 5 років тому +139

    Seems like they edited this with a fairly strong bias, pretty weak journalism Vice

    • @treepeenbawlz1934
      @treepeenbawlz1934 5 років тому +11

      Jordan Gibson nah you’re just a gullible blind sheep

    • @mattirwin463
      @mattirwin463 5 років тому +4

      @@treepeenbawlz1934 you are too; "Thou who cloaks themselves in the cloth of another shall question their own": no bible verse, just sounds old and mystic. In other words, you're a wolf in sheeps skin. you pass yourself off as someone who is not like the others, when in reality, you've conformed to a set of false values just as much as your counterparts.

    • @treepeenbawlz1934
      @treepeenbawlz1934 5 років тому +2

      Matt Irwin all that bs you just said resembles the type of message Hillsong has been trying to convey

    • @BreezeeGreenz
      @BreezeeGreenz 5 років тому +1

      I agree.

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      @@treepeenbawlz1934 Look for his transvestigation on tricksofthestrade. Worth seeing it.

  • @randyrysdale852
    @randyrysdale852 7 років тому +484

    just another con man hustling the people

    • @kahluaqueen
      @kahluaqueen 7 років тому +2

      randy rysdale right you are!

    • @rilorobinson7685
      @rilorobinson7685 7 років тому

      Ain't nothing to see here keep walking

    • @erinlippitt8545
      @erinlippitt8545 7 років тому +3

      Yep.

    • @sullyguy1235
      @sullyguy1235 7 років тому

      randy rysdale would guy say that about the muslims?

    • @carlosm2014
      @carlosm2014 7 років тому +1

      Sad you see it that way. He’s a God-fearing man, who’s spreading love!

  • @kellyadanna5453
    @kellyadanna5453 5 років тому +128

    Don't really like how this interview was carried out...

    • @futuristiclettuce
      @futuristiclettuce 5 років тому +11

      Same. I am just sick and tired of the media's approach to everything. Always looking for conspiracy, looking for hypocrisy, looking for controversy, looking to trip you up. I am sick and tired of it.

    • @tensegritywill
      @tensegritywill 5 років тому

      Agreed.

    • @FlawlesZMa
      @FlawlesZMa 5 років тому +6

      the world can tell the hypocrasy and heretic wolf in sheep clothing more than professing christians nowadays!

    • @matthewadi9870
      @matthewadi9870 5 років тому +2

      i am christian and believe in vice than the fake pastors.

    • @RedMisfit
      @RedMisfit 4 роки тому +1

      playsbba018 you’re exactly and totally right! That’s why people like Carl has hesitancy in doing interviews like this. They’re trying to get at something. If you notice a lot of popular artists evade the media storm by and large. They only do interviews or documentary through their outlets like OVO or production companies. They’re almost always trying to put their spin on things to get out a negative or twisted view of somebody.

  • @michael.snavely
    @michael.snavely 7 років тому +35

    VICE it’s called a worship service, not a karaoke night 😂😂

  • @jopezo_
    @jopezo_ 7 років тому +792

    More sheep than a sheep

    • @khaithianthang
      @khaithianthang 7 років тому +2

      "Sheep Squad"

    • @russiasucksukrainiandick
      @russiasucksukrainiandick 7 років тому +1

      i see what you did there

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 7 років тому +1

      "Commerce is our goal here at Tyrell. More human than human is our motto. Rachael is an experiment, nothing more. We began to recognise in them a strange obsession. After all they are emotionally inexperienced, with only a few years in which to store up the experiences which you and I take for granted. If we gift them a past, we'd create a cushion, a pillow for their emotions and consequently we can control them better."
      - Dr Eldon Tyrell
      "Commerce is our goal here at Church. More Sheep than Sheep is our motto. Jesus is an experiment, nothing more. We began to recognise in them a strange Christian obsession. After all they are educationally inexperienced, with only a few religions in which to completely fabricate the existentialism which you and I take for granted. If we gift them a Savior, we'd create a cushion, a pillow for their need to believe and consequently we can control them better."
      - Every Evangelical Pastor and Conservative Politician. Ever.

    • @granthowse5638
      @granthowse5638 7 років тому +3

      You could call him a 'hypepriest'.

    • @MrNflxter
      @MrNflxter 7 років тому

      If this was any other religion your comment would be non existent

  • @lancethoma5047
    @lancethoma5047 7 років тому +245

    The good old megachurch.... Bringing in MILLIONS of dollars a year, all in the name of the good Lord.

    • @dylanguidry4488
      @dylanguidry4488 6 років тому +26

      Yes... Also spending MILLIONS on mission trips and planting churches.

    • @lancethoma5047
      @lancethoma5047 6 років тому +18

      Dylan Guidry Dont forget tge pastor and his crownies buying BENTLEYS and audi r8s...

    • @dylanguidry4488
      @dylanguidry4488 6 років тому +9

      If a pastor makes a lot of money then who cares?
      They don't get most of their income from the church. they get them from selling books.
      I swear, a pastor can never be poor enough.

    • @lancethoma5047
      @lancethoma5047 6 років тому +19

      Dylan Guidry i had no i idea you were they're financial accountant. I guess your right.

    • @dylanguidry4488
      @dylanguidry4488 6 років тому +9

      Coming from the same person who said that these pastors own Bentleys and Audis :D Which they don't.
      I literally follow Pastor Carl Lentz and Judah Smith very closely.

  • @theprodigaldaughter1973
    @theprodigaldaughter1973 5 років тому +23

    I love hillsong's music, but the preaching is iffy to me and there were a lot of liberal talking points. No one asked for

  • @forexstriker8308
    @forexstriker8308 6 років тому +29

    WOLF dress in sheep's clothing to deceive his flock!

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      If you are interested there'sa very good channel called tricksofthestrade that did an transvestigation based on anatomy on this pastor and another famous one (I cannot recall his name). Worth watching. Let me know what you think if you see it.

  • @Koko_Sam
    @Koko_Sam 6 років тому +104

    his appearance on the View was enough for to conclude he caters to masses. No integrity.

    • @brettbyer5340
      @brettbyer5340 6 років тому +1

      Paul catered his message to who he was speaking to. We are all called to cater our message to whoever we are speaking with in order to show them who Jesus is

    • @docfabz
      @docfabz 6 років тому

      Brett Byer is there a part of the bible you're referencing? If so which one?

    • @docfabz
      @docfabz 6 років тому

      Brett Byer actually, I think I get what you're saying but is 'cater' the right word? It has specific connotations

    • @brettbyer5340
      @brettbyer5340 6 років тому +1

      yes, paul became all things for all people. Cater means to try and satisfy. Pauls message would not have been effective if nobody listened to it. How did he get people to listen to it? He catered his message to satisfy those who were hearing it.

    • @wasiswillbe1010
      @wasiswillbe1010 6 років тому

      docfabz greetings
      1 Corinthians 9
      salute sojourners passing through 1st heaven on 1st earth unto the hour of departing out of the natural world

  • @4everfreshkid
    @4everfreshkid 7 років тому +129

    The reporters’ attempts to vilify this guy really bother me

    • @jacobcook245
      @jacobcook245 6 років тому +5

      Proteus They shouldn’t. The man is an opportunistic buffoon.

    • @fourtweven
      @fourtweven 6 років тому +1

      That's the way that any curious person would talk to him on both the Christian and Atheist side.

    • @leahcotton5315
      @leahcotton5315 2 роки тому +6

      The reporter was spot on… read the news on this guy

    • @rosa61217
      @rosa61217 2 роки тому +4

      This did not age well

    • @bigbowlowrong4694
      @bigbowlowrong4694 Рік тому

      💀
      Remember this comment next time you think you’re a good judge of character.

  • @bauman7962
    @bauman7962 2 роки тому +2

    Never EVER put your faith in a church or pastor. God is who He says He is. He will NEVER let you down

  • @andrewfreeman88
    @andrewfreeman88 6 років тому +364

    Why the long pause at the end???...why?? lol

    • @jaykob2482
      @jaykob2482 6 років тому +85

      Andrew Debasque
      Because she asked him, "What administration?" And he replied "This one." Obviously, referring to Trump. And Vice (and I'm assuming the reporter) is a Trump hater.

    • @cosmogamer9914
      @cosmogamer9914 6 років тому +78

      cuz she's TRIGGERED lmfao

    • @jbmfishing564
      @jbmfishing564 6 років тому +15

      Because she’s in total shock that someone like him would meet with such an “evil” person like Donald Trump.

    • @rumaabba8875
      @rumaabba8875 6 років тому +11

      vice refuse christianity, they want u fall by added political questions

    • @MiykaZ1
      @MiykaZ1 6 років тому +5

      making it seem tense-r than it actually is

  • @mexicansandblacksescompton8020
    @mexicansandblacksescompton8020 6 років тому +21

    SMH if any pastor or priest dont minister about HELL and saving souls that church dont get applauds from me

    • @flysupertomcat1
      @flysupertomcat1 5 років тому

      Have you ever listened to any of his sermons online? The answer is no, you haven't.

  • @mz204455
    @mz204455 7 років тому +30

    Isn’t going to church supposed to be praying/remembering god rather than a music concert.

    • @WinkyMcWinkerson
      @WinkyMcWinkerson 7 років тому +1

      mz204455 the Bible teaches us that when we die and if we ascend to Heaven then we will spend most, if not all, of our time worshipping God. Especially through song and probably dance. Church is what you make of it. There's so many to choose from. Find one that allows you to leave feeling like you got to worship God, learn about the truth of Jesus' love and sacrifices, and have more knowledge about the truth of the Bible. There's no one true way church should be. It's not going to be perfect and you'll get as much out of it as you're willing to put in to it (effort, attention, community involvement, volunteering, donating time and money and personal resources, etc.). I'll pray you can find an awesome church. 😊
      Have a good one.

    • @commentconnoisseur1001
      @commentconnoisseur1001 6 років тому +1

      captain murph worship is not having a dance. We have forgotten the presence of God found through solemnity. Not all worship is what God wants, as is in Hebrews (can't remember where exactly) - but I believe focusing on what He brings us through His word. When does this man mention the resurrection from the dead, the death of Christ, or man's total depravity?
      He knows his own heresy, but the money is there, so that's where he'll stay.

    • @drastocedits2682
      @drastocedits2682 6 років тому

      uk the more worship u get, the more hype and convicted u feel when the sermon starts. its from experience, trust me :)

    • @EpicLionMusic
      @EpicLionMusic 6 років тому

      So you cant pray/remember God with a music concert, you need to remember Him in a boring way? Why? Is God alive or dead? Did Jesus save us or not? Should we celebrate or mourn?

    • @HeidisHereAndThere
      @HeidisHereAndThere 6 років тому

      mz204455 Not "remembering" God, for He IS, but worshipping and fellowship with God.

  • @alexandrejohanmveondo337
    @alexandrejohanmveondo337 4 роки тому +19

    The gate of hell is broad! The modern Christianity will leads many into the lake of 🔥!

  • @asmallfarmhomestead3657
    @asmallfarmhomestead3657 6 років тому +250

    Glad to see he didn’t budge on the marriage issue though, actually kinda surprised.

    • @elijahangeles6015
      @elijahangeles6015 6 років тому +30

      Dalton Heitmann same I was expecting him to dodge the question

    • @sav6695
      @sav6695 5 років тому +8

      @@elijahangeles6015 same! But glad that is one thing he stands for that's right!

    • @tinamaxson6669
      @tinamaxson6669 5 років тому +25

      He kinda did though.

    • @fredbear9534
      @fredbear9534 5 років тому +48

      He said his opinion is secondary to what Hillsong believes the Bible says.
      What does that mean? Sounds like he thinks sodomy and fornication are ok but he has to hold up the views of the corporation “Hillsong” in order to keep his job.
      Listen carefully how he crafts his responses.

    • @matthewboatwright2736
      @matthewboatwright2736 5 років тому +23

      He did ... " the super left thinks were not loud enough in our affrimation" he just affirmed his acceptance on homosexual marriage...

  • @harambejr.4711
    @harambejr.4711 7 років тому +509

    Dude’s built like a half bent electric fan remote.

    • @glossygloss472
      @glossygloss472 7 років тому +39

      What...

    • @loki350
      @loki350 6 років тому +73

      I won’t pretend to know what the hell that means, but neither will I act like I didn’t laugh

    • @DDFYO
      @DDFYO 6 років тому

      xD

    • @lindseysloan8735
      @lindseysloan8735 6 років тому +11

      I'm confused by this..I even googled it with no luck. STILL FUNNY THOUGH.

    • @roxy8404
      @roxy8404 6 років тому

      I kinda see it

  • @moisesdolz6151
    @moisesdolz6151 7 років тому +9

    We, who are Christians, only need the constant remainder that Christ is our PERSONAL savior. He's personal to each living soul on this planet, if they so willingly choose to let him in their hearts. How ever and who so ever chooses to reach their destination to Christ is solely between them and our King of Kings. So, I wish them all a safe haven to the ultimate experience one reaches with the Holy Spirit within the Godhead. This medium has the potential to reach the youth who may be lost in this spiritually decaying world full of sin and hate.

    • @xin0
      @xin0 6 років тому

      you know...i would like to know where in the bible it says Jesus is our "personal" saviour,
      people like you use that phrase, I would like to know where the bible states that.
      thanks

    • @KTF_7
      @KTF_7 6 років тому

      Luke 2:11
      "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord."
      1 Timothy 1:15
      "It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all."
      Luke 19:10
      "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost."
      Acts 13:23
      "From the descendants of this man, according to promise, God has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus,"
      Titus 2:13
      "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,"
      Matthew 1:21
      "She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."
      Acts 4:12
      "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."
      Ephesians 5:23
      "For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body."
      Philippians 3:20
      "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;"
      2 Timothy 1:10
      "but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,"
      1 Timothy 4:10
      "For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers."
      John 4:42
      "and they were saying to the woman, "It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves and know that this One is indeed the Savior of the world."
      1 John 4:14
      "We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world."
      Is that enough for you?

  • @brent6518
    @brent6518 3 роки тому +3

    Just because Hillsong has high power "spiritual" music and they throw around the name of Jesus, doesn't mean it has ANYTHING to do with God!

  • @justindevessia4848
    @justindevessia4848 7 років тому +507

    this seems questionable, but Oceans is the jam tho

  • @abshir9677
    @abshir9677 7 років тому +7

    "Why God need gold ceilings to talk to me, I'm right here where he left me at"
    -Tupac shakur

  • @fearofsaturn
    @fearofsaturn 7 років тому +278

    pastors are the best scammers alive

    • @Silverspy97
      @Silverspy97 7 років тому

      No, Donald Trump is.

    • @walperstyle
      @walperstyle 7 років тому

      The problem isn't religion, it's morality. People that believe in the Church of Government have murdered and starved hundreds of millions of people in the name of 'progress'. Mao? Stalin? Ring a bell? The people behind the the message can warp and skew, so, instead of being against people and their belief system, support it, and just ignore the insane people, atheist, or religious.

    • @peacefulrecharge896
      @peacefulrecharge896 7 років тому

      KatieRouge the blind believe the blind eh

  • @5hamon
    @5hamon 2 роки тому +5

    I just rolled my eyes so hard I got a cramp! Lentz saying that they're "not here to put on religious performance" is possibly the most ironic thing I've ever heard.

  • @josettedc703
    @josettedc703 6 років тому +12

    This dude (i dont identify him as pastor) spends more time on his looks than on God's word...shameful

  • @Bard23
    @Bard23 7 років тому +255

    The correspondent's face at the end of the video sums up my feelings on this charlatan

    • @EpicLionMusic
      @EpicLionMusic 7 років тому +2

      You're a charlatan.

    • @foundations
      @foundations 7 років тому +7

      Well.. her face at the end just reminds me how BIAS the news can be.

  • @christoh_92
    @christoh_92 6 років тому +49

    If he is hiding something God already Got iiiim👌🏾 stay blessed all you believers out there 🙏🏾

  • @JayyVee41
    @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +2

    You don’t change the world by trying to be like the world. Christianity 101. This isn’t a church. This is a universalist, secular, motivational talk. Truly trying to destroy the true Church

  • @ajs27333
    @ajs27333 7 років тому +12

    Her face was epic at the very end!!! 🤣

  • @FlyingPastilla
    @FlyingPastilla 7 років тому +18

    I don't get how this can be considered christian. I was raised catholic mind you.
    Did all these businessman pastors missed the part where Jesus kicked out the merchants from the temple ?
    I don't know of a church that didn't do wrong at one point but making a business out of religion is just despicable.

    • @nateskate11
      @nateskate11 7 років тому +2

      I was also raised catholic. I am just shocked at some of these churches. Theres one of these churches in my area that actually sell t shirts and merchandise at the door.....Scary part is that people actually eat it up. I will not deny that this video definitely has a bias. However, every single time I have encountered or heard of these churches I get an instant bad vibe. I dont see church....I see greed.

    • @FlyingPastilla
      @FlyingPastilla 6 років тому +1

      Of course pastors and priests have to make a living but getting rich through that is actually contradicting the message of the christ.
      They are not practicing what they preach. Christianity has values and money is not one of them. Hence why they look like hypocrites to me.
      Also I don't believe one second that all this money is used to buy new church buildings.
      Megachurches like this one are not about values, there is a twisted smell of egotrip and lust for power over people in the people leading them. I don't trust any of them.

    • @nateskate11
      @nateskate11 6 років тому

      word

    • @commentconnoisseur1001
      @commentconnoisseur1001 6 років тому

      He is a heretic

    • @rickyr7790
      @rickyr7790 6 років тому

      RaptorAZ 777 they also use the money to purchase his ridiculous fashion costs . Smh

  • @BrotherDave80
    @BrotherDave80 6 років тому +137

    THIS PASTOR PREACHES ANOTHER JESUS!!!
    2CORINTHIANS 11:3-4

    • @mrbohornick
      @mrbohornick 6 років тому +5

      He doesn’t preach lol he’s just a speaker

    • @ZoeyKirituOfficial
      @ZoeyKirituOfficial 6 років тому +7

      BROTHER DAVE true... He worships money (Mammon)...
      Can't have it both ways.

    • @MrSanche
      @MrSanche 6 років тому +7

      BROTHER DAVE true he is a people pleaser not a God pleaser

    • @benhenze
      @benhenze 6 років тому +7

      ...So what exactly does he preach that's not biblical? Maybe I missed it..since you just yelled "HES WRONG" without citing anything that he said

    • @angelinaad209
      @angelinaad209 6 років тому

      Mr. Bo Hornick speaker of what?🤔

  • @cameronbalderrama1108
    @cameronbalderrama1108 3 роки тому +13

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” -Matthew 7:21

  • @Skydmig
    @Skydmig 7 років тому +57

    That was one of the more weird combos I've seen in a while. You travel deep Vice, respect.

  • @debrasloan5541
    @debrasloan5541 4 роки тому +4

    People need to realize that God does not call some people to Ministry some people call themselves .

  • @karena222fu
    @karena222fu 6 років тому +24

    They twist evil for good , they sugar coat GODS word if they do not open bible they are NOT OF GOD period. sugar coating does Not change TRUTH

  • @thiscommentwasposted262
    @thiscommentwasposted262 5 років тому +14

    1:37 he says to worship until told to stop... that's not true worship. true worship is like Jesus said, John :23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.,,,, WHICH IS TO SAY, TRUE worshippers will WORSHIP in SPIRIT, meaning, LIVING A LIFE FOR JESUS. strive, STRIVE to live for Jesus.

    • @hansbryanygot6049
      @hansbryanygot6049 5 років тому

      He said Worship Until God tells you to stop. So if God didn't tell you to Stop Don't stop

    • @kerrie9191
      @kerrie9191 4 роки тому

      This comment was posted stop your commenth

  • @LuckytheAsian
    @LuckytheAsian 7 років тому +151

    Wolf in sheepskin.

    • @jomedi7
      @jomedi7 7 років тому +3

      LuckytheAsian Not sure how you get this from a 5-minute Vice News video

    • @EpicLionMusic
      @EpicLionMusic 6 років тому +2

      Yeah.. the people this "wolf" is leading has really failed life. Quit drugs and changed their lives. This guy is really bad for society yeah...

    • @Craigdaspike
      @Craigdaspike 6 років тому +1

      Do you even comprehend the saying "wolf in sheep skin"?

    • @serg1813141
      @serg1813141 6 років тому +1

      LuckytheAsian a wolf in Supremes clothing 🐏

    • @mostar5389
      @mostar5389 6 років тому

      LemS do you even know what “wolf in sheepskin” means? cause your statement is showing you clearly do not.

  • @gizmogizmo1646
    @gizmogizmo1646 5 років тому +26

    CLOWN: SIMPLE

  • @kirstyfynn1372
    @kirstyfynn1372 7 років тому +98

    I've never watched a vice video so blatantly bias

    • @dr.lhayesmd1065
      @dr.lhayesmd1065 7 років тому +14

      vice is always blatantly bias....just watch any of their videos on Trump

    • @linayung7701
      @linayung7701 7 років тому +4

      Dr. L Hayes MD vice has always been known to be progressive. But why do you use trump as your example? Are you a trumptard? Just scratch ur obvious fake title.

    • @dr.lhayesmd1065
      @dr.lhayesmd1065 7 років тому +8

      No nice try.... I actually wanted Sanders to win....but I can be honest and still say that Vice is obviously Anti-Trump (just like Fox was anti Clinton)....I would prefer to watch news presented without an obvious bias and just be given facts allowing me to formulate my own opinion....what's so wrong with that?

    • @linayung7701
      @linayung7701 7 років тому +1

      Dr. L Hayes MD i wanted Sanders too, and as a progressives like Sanders, you should have known that he IS anti Trump. Trump is currently undoing every progress that Sanders have been working on so far. Being anti Trump doesnt mean you're pro Hillary.
      And if you compare Vice to Fox news or FACTITIOUS right wing media because they hold a certain kind of "bias", you really need to get back to your degree. Fox has been numerously caught making literal fake news, fake sources and even fake people to serve their agenda, even more or so than any Clintonite MSM who

    • @dr.lhayesmd1065
      @dr.lhayesmd1065 7 років тому +1

      Yes Sanders is Anti Trump, but he is a politician, and believe it or not even I am anti Trump.....I think you are missing my whole point of my comment I am talking about the media being anti Trump and others being anti liberals...I am saying in my opinion media/journalists job should be to present facts without a bias (and most new organizations are guilty of this...some more than others) and let viewers formulate their own opinions....not to try to push their own personal views (whether conservative or liberal) on viewers

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 3 роки тому +2

    I do agree with Lentz about the easiest answer to marriage in America. As a Christian I don’t care if someone wants to marry another according to the legally binding contract of state sanctioned marriage.

  • @astrazenica7783
    @astrazenica7783 7 років тому +27

    No offence, but I wouldn't take advice on how to lead my life from someone wearing skinny jeans & a truckers cap. Maybe just me tho

    • @Gafferd8186
      @Gafferd8186 7 років тому +2

      Adam Smith but what if the Lord has came inside him and is now using him to preach that book he's been trying to sell

    • @InIt4TheMemez
      @InIt4TheMemez 7 років тому

      Adam Smith but you see why would take advice from from someone who wears priest clothes? Js

  • @Jw-un8oh
    @Jw-un8oh 5 років тому +7

    This church is so great that it is hardly a church at all!

  • @chrispines1510
    @chrispines1510 6 років тому +44

    Oprahs blessing: tells me all I need to know. 👿

    • @gonehome2
      @gonehome2 5 років тому +1

      Amen to that! Oprah is an illuminati puppet!!

    • @coachzaynab355
      @coachzaynab355 5 років тому

      You're right. People these days call evil good, and good evil. If you are interested there'sa very good channel called tricksofthestrade that did an transvestigation based on anatomy on this pastor and another famous one (I cannot recall his name). Worth watching. Let me know what you think if you see it.

  • @DRChubs_
    @DRChubs_ 4 роки тому +1

    Christianity isn't a culture it's a relationship ♥️

  • @vkhiev
    @vkhiev 3 роки тому +3

    I don't see Carl even as a Christian. Most of his beliefs n actions are unbiblical. Now the truth is just coming out and adultery is just 1

  • @ellenhenderson6865
    @ellenhenderson6865 6 років тому +18

    I wish her questions were more from a place of belief and fundament and not cynicism. He deserves scrutiny, but for the right reasons.

    • @JayyVee41
      @JayyVee41 4 роки тому +2

      Carl always squirms at every question where the Bible and our culture differ in opinion. He has no backbone. Can’t believe he leads a “church.”

    • @janhenrik4170
      @janhenrik4170 4 роки тому

      She's not naive therefore doesnt believe

  • @krkMuse
    @krkMuse 3 роки тому +3

    Bible warned us. Vice gave us a preview. Now, we have the full story. No more churches for me. If God cannot accept me where I am, I never belonged.

  • @glassmw9823
    @glassmw9823 3 роки тому +11

    Relevance means nothing, neither does “attractiveness”, neither does numbers, or audience counts, or clout, culture, or “merch”. Faithfulness to Jesus means everything.

  • @DoronBond
    @DoronBond 5 років тому +11

    “..this one...” .... “..oh ...” (freeze face) 😆🤣 @4:30

    • @ean_billock_cf
      @ean_billock_cf 3 роки тому

      facts i died lol

    • @DoronBond
      @DoronBond 3 роки тому +1

      @@ean_billock_cf very odd 😂 ..but no so funny now 🤨

  • @slothop7541
    @slothop7541 3 роки тому +3

    My heart is broken for those who really think he’s a true Christian. Lord forgive them for they do not know what they don

  • @Kai-kr6mi
    @Kai-kr6mi 5 років тому +9

    Nobody in the church is wearing Supreme or Rick Owens like the pastor