That definitely came across in New Beginnings. There was one scene when she changed her story when she went from one table to another, not even a different room! 😂
Lauren is still has very close friendship relationships with Dieter, Trey and Stephen Colletti from Laguna, which I think is testament enough to Lauren's character.
Exactly, Kristen even said she had some good times with Lauren they were just not close and any beef they had was sorted before the show started but the show wanted to keep it going. Heidi is a bitter betty 🤣 And audrina just another hater.haha
I think they all say Lauren is a nice girl , she was just too judgey and involved in their relationship s , she did it to Heidi and Audrina , maybe she was just protective
I don't get it - when Spencer is manipulating story lines he is a genius (according to Heidi) but when there is any suggestion of Lauren manipulating story lines or wants something 'her' way, she is awful and demanding and made out to be a diva and a drama queen.....when the show is literally based around her (and the other two wouldn't have had a job without her). Double standards much?
I think it was more of …let’s do this storyline cause it would make us more famous and build the show up and doing mean things at. people expense that’s why she wanted spencer ofl the show cause he was a fam craz.
I love how frankie calls heidi out when she trying so hard to make Lauren look bad😂 he told her “but didnt you all know that lauren wasn’t the only one who would have storylines?” When heidi tried to make lauren seem jealous of heidi having her own storyline 😂
Isn’t it funny how they want to make Lauren look bad, but she’s the only one not trying to relive the past and made her money and career in a different way? 😂 c’mon guys - without her there would have never been a show
“Once I went against Lauren”… Once you and Spencer spread the rumor about Lauren. I would like heidi so much more if she was an took responsibility for what she did.
I'm hoping they touch on this more during this season BUT LC Was controlling and a mean girl. She didn't vibe with audrina until Heidi started getting serious with Spencer. When she dated Jason she was MIA from her friends and it was ok for her to stay with a cheater/drug addict who treated her like shit but had so much to say about Heidi and Spencer and audrina + Justin Bobby. She had a falling out with LO but reconnects with her the min her friendships with these 2 starts going south .
@Omojefe Ugbeyan I just finished reading watching The Hills. My take on it is Lauren was more of the mother friend. She wanted the best for her friends. That sometimes does come off as control. But really if you real friends don't tell you a guy isn't right for you what kind of a friend are they.
Whitney, Kristin and Stephen have shown that you can do a rewatch podcast that is coherent, entertaining and fun without totally bashing others. The hate is immature and distracting
@@9r71t3z No Lauren always had a goal it wasn’t about just fame. And most of these ppl were envious so it goes to show if your cool then your not a hater. And I agree stop woman blaming.
@@lalaa8653 totally right LC never wanted to be so famous she wanted to get out and she did from the show she had enough of it and I totally get it being on TV isn't easy we never saw everything what happen in real life after they were done filming most days and everyone there wanted to be famous and make money and dramatically do stuff they were told to do or they would just do it but LC just walk away from a negative place and hey thats what people need to do do t matter if it's family or friends I know how it is being around negative people and I walk away from it
@@9r71t3z People used the shit out of Lauren. No wonder why she ghosted everyone. Probably the only one who *might* not have used her, at least so blatantly, was Lo.
I enjoyed listening to Season 1 but ever since this has become the “dump on Lauren” podcast, I’m done. I LOVE Stephan and Kristen’s podcast and how they are so respectful of everyone, recognizing it was all for TV and MTV. None of these people would be here if it wasn’t for Laguna and Lauren.
Projection. Heidi has so much guilt over what she did to her friend Lauren that she’s making it seem like Lauren was the mad, jealous type who was deeply obsessed with her show. When clearly Heidi’s BF and Brody were talking about how they wanted to be on the show so badly. So here’s my final thought: listen to the difference between Kristin and Heidi talk about the past and Lauren. Kristin owned her part, Heidi doesn’t. I want to like her but she seems so bitter. Stop bad mouthing Lauren and start speaking the truth. That’s how Stephen and Kristin got Lauren on their podcast.
I agree it comes off that her and Audrina are very bitter. They act like they would of been able to make a show without her. You tried that and it didn't work...
@@sarahnicol9341 Yeah that is way surprising and sad to see. Be respectful at least, Lauren was your good friend and the reasons you get paid to this day.
Bro. Is Heidi okay? Like for real though. Her constant digs at Lauren are not only unecessary to the concept of this show but just weird. It's almost like she's still grieving or healing from that experience, and maybe she is but it feels like projection.
Grown adults still trying to bring Lauren down. Move on. I don’t think it is fair to constantly talk about someone who is not there to defend themselves.
I really hate how they keep throwing digs at Lauren. There’s a way to do this podcast to tell their side and truth without bringing someone else down! It seems like Heidi is holding on to feelings from back then that she really needs to just let go!!
Also it appears Heidi is unable to make it through a segment without making negative comments towards Lauren, extremely sad. As opposed to Lauren who is running a non profit company "Little Market" to help empower struggling woman in the workplace & featuring on Stephen & Kristen's podcast which was a very genuine positive mature episode between the three of them. I think Heidi must be insecure to feel this persistent need to talk about Lauren negativity on every platform she appears on.
I am over the Lauren bashing after all these years later like at one point they was bff like i feel like Heidi keep saying the same thing about Lauren like enough already just say your thoughts on the episodes and stop the Lauren bashing and now that Heidi is on this Audrina jumping on the band wagon.
STOP SHADING LAUREN. Ugh so grimy and tacky!This is really disappointing. If the cast is reading these comments (or the podcast editors), please read the entire comment thread and pass this feedback on.
In every podcast you listen with heidi she puts kristin on a pedestal to pit her up against lauren Also them trying to throw shade at Laurens actions on the hills is soo lame they act like they werent all the same stage of being twenty and naive Brody had no personality other then being a player and audrina was an airhead who got back with her ex who was playing her and frankie u were just a side character take a seat
I think this podcast should be titled "throwing shade towards Lauren" it is just terribly negative & Heidi is extremely bitter towards Lauren & between her & Audrina it is creating a negative energy.
Yes, is a little disappointed that they still want to bring the same drama and negative vibes about Lauren, like they all were friends with her back then, they knew rhe situation and they just make it sound like they were fake, so sad, I used to look up to all of them. :/
I feel like Heidi is using this as a way to just bash Lauren. She’s painting Lauren as the mean bitch / bully . Everything that comes out of her mouth is all about how Lauren was mean. I curious to see how she justifies her storylines .
How do you know that though? You only saw the edited version of the show! Heidi is kinda keeping us real .. agree there is some resentment for sure. But I think she is being honest.
@@hjet5604 heidi is not keeping it real at all! She is straight up lying and making up stories that no one seems to know exept her… how convenient…..she is a liar and a very inmature person.
@@marpalpe8255 Heidi is the only one that lived with Lauren during season 1 and 2 … hence she is the only one that would know these things. Her and Lauren are best friends and knew each other before the hills. All other people are casted for the show. So it makes sense that only Heidi knows. Again I say you only watched an edited version of the show! Not everything shown in 20 mins episode will cover every truth and every detail of everything in their lives.
@@hjet5604 that doesnt mean she is telling the truth... the hate in her words and the way she is bashing lauren is enough to see she is lying.... the others seem to work well with Lauren, she even tries to make audrina speaks bad on lauren.... she is gross
@@marpalpe8255 I don’t agree! I think she’s telling her truth! And this is exactly what makes this podcast more interesting! I defs see she has a lot of resentment for Lauren! And I think she is just letting it out. And now she can narrate the show however she wants.
I mean. I watched the S2E1 podcast episode cause I used to love The Hills, but it kinda turned into Heidi just making digs at Lauren throughout. The promo for this episode was just the same thing. She just sounds bitter about the fact it was centered around Lauren which is kinda crazy cause she wouldn’t have a career if it wasn’t for Lauren. Also notice how Lauren has always stayed quiet about all this? Feel like Frankie should be sticking up for his friend more 🤷🏻♀️
And that's when I stopped watching. Heidi has ate out on LC name for almost 20 years. She should have stayed in school like was suggested. Lauren has prosperous business ventures, a normal hardworking husband, healthy relationship. What's Heidi got? Oh. Spencer Pratt.😅 I do hope they had insurance on their home.😥
This is the first episode I watched and I have to say I will not watch it again...they really need to stop throwing digs at someone who isn't there to defend herself - immature and childish. I prefer Whitney's reaction videos 1000000% more
So Heidi's motivation to join this series really is just to shade / taken down Lauren. Would also be keen to hear Kristin's thoughts on them saying that The Hills was meant to be her show originally but because she passed on it they gave it to LC...
Yes me too!If this is true i think the show would have been a flop, thats my personal opinion. (max 3 seasons) On Laguna Beach Kristin was more on the front line, but when Jason kissed Jessica on that fashion show things changed. The way Lauren handled things with so much maturity and poise at 18 years old, to me it was very impressive. I think thats when she became a more desirable character and the producers saw it. As much as i like Kristen now, back than she was just too much for me, loud and obnoxious, all over the place. If she says yes to the hills, it would have been full of yelling, bar fights, gossip etc. I personally loved following Lauren and Whitney’s career, they were very likable, and people were rooting for them. Lauren kept carrying herself with poise, setting boundaries, and standing up for herself, which was a good example for young girls. I believe, that is why she is popular to this date. She just focused on her fashion career and didn’t get caught up in fame and money. When Lauren left, it was obvious that she made the show, despite all the comments these three make on this podcast…”heidi you made/carried the show”. Then why it didn’t last longer than an extra two seasons? Ratings plummeted, Speidi completely lost the plot in the end. All the scenes with them became painful to watch, desperately trying to stay relevant by picking fights. Heidi comes across very bitter and jealous, i think deep inside she regrets her decision. I would not be surprised if in 10-15 years she will come out and claim she was in this abusive relationship with a narcissist who controlled her. Heidi is nothing without Spencer she has nothing, no money, no career she is stuck. But this is just a theory, so don’t come at me 😅
Did Brody just admit to being an opportunist lol by being a fan on Laguna and knowing Lauren was going to be on The Hills to take her on a date…….um kinda ick 😑🙄
Audrina and Heidi really need to move on!! Why are they still hating on Lauren after all this time, its very weird, they are adults now, drop the toxicity and just stop talking about her! Kristen and Stephen are pure class in how they have done it.
Seems likes she’s happy to have a platform to make small jabs at Lauren. Lauren never has any thing remotely negative to say anything about anyone but Heidi obviously has some hard feelings left after all these years.
Watching Lauren working some aspect of Fashion, from a runway show to styling, is always fun and why there was a The Hills show. Love watching Lauren and Whitney do their thing 💖💖 Awww, Brody… I love hearing you initially fanboy over Lauren 🥰 And your sweet remarks about how she made you feel comfy and cool about filming and hanging out in general. You two developed a genuine relationship/friendship and it showed at that time 🥰 Love when Audrina hangs up on Spencer 😂 Perfect! It is obvious you recognized him as being a flea/tick… with sweaty armpits. Audrina is still doing great with moving along the dialogue, as she did the first Season of the podcast. I love when they show more of Audrina’s involvement in the music industry going forward. She and her sister were such music enthusiast 🥰 I am always grateful for Frankie’s commentary ☺️ He remains the ultimate plug with the real and actual truth on many goings on behind the scenes. And, yes, it is obvious that all the ladies would have their own individual story lines. Thankful for more of Frankie in Season 3 and beyond- [Especially that epic Season 3 Episode 1 opener 🔥] It is hilarious watching everyone react to Heidi’s stories with “What?!” “I didn’t know that” 😂😂😂 The mistruths are really funny 😆 Cute New Intro!! Keep having fun!
she is not getting ideas thats just how it was for all relationships on these tv shows. Just cause somebody else said it first doenst mean somebody else cant speak on it. It must be weird to watch it all out of synch with what happened. Its like somebody messing up your diary timeline.
youre pretty clueles if you think Heidi & spencer have never spoke the past 15 plus years about how the show didnt show their relationship correctly in chronological order. Im sure they have in many various interviews long before back to the beach. Im sure all have them have done so. These podcasts are not some new revelations!
This podcast is so immature and childish compared to the Back to the Beach with Kristen and Stephen. You have 30 year olds (mostly Heidi) still throwing shade and even fantasizing about the friendship she use to have with Lauren. The fact that Kristen and Stephen managed to get Lauren on their podcast regardless of their drama from decades ago speaks volume of how much they've grown. Meanwhile, you still have Heidi who just remains sour.
So much shade throwing since Heidi joined .........just the little comments about Lauren. Its constant. You can tell Frankie gets uncomfortable (being friends with her still)
I'm not sure how I actually feel about this anymore. Heidi has changed it but in a negative way. So much shade towards Lauren and its actually very mean. It wasn't like this in previous episodes. Heidi is trying to make Lauren look like the bad person when that isn't true.
Like if Lauren had the chance to bare it All.. without being so nice and tell the true story she would but that’s the thing Lauren has class .. character .. shes ..nice and sweet and and a role model and lives her life private and it’s hers she was tired of the BS .. and I applaud her for that
Is every episode going to be Heidi taking any and every opportunity to bash Lauren?! If so, she can go. Talk about you and Spencer and whoever else even if it is Lauren, but you don’t have to go above and beyond to trash her. And no one speaking up like “okay moving on” is just as bad
Thank God they got Heidi on the show! Much much much better and we finally get ALL the behind the scenes info! So excited for this season but wish they had her with from the start.. They should almost just go back and redo the first season lol
They can say that without Heidi and Spencer they wouldn't have gotten a season 3 (which there may be a little truth too), or that the show would have been super boring if it just followed Lauren's story but, look what happened when Lauren left the show...
Indeed! They certainly kickstarted when they dropped the sex tape rumor, but the reason why the show got popular is because of, how Lauren handled all the confrontations she remained levelheaded, set her boundaries very clearly.
I look forward to these every week!! Great inside scoop on how the hills was meant to be Kirsten’s show! I hope you have Kristen on a guest for the spide wedding episode!! And season 5 part 2
Producers have said it was never offered to Kristen first, it was Lauren but they wanted Kristen to join but at the time she wanted to concentrate on being an actress. But all hearsay.haha
Also? Wouldn’t blame Lauren for being annoyed at Heidi’s fake pregnancy storyline….. I would be annoyed having to entertain a fake story line too. Thats the downfall of reality tv is it became all fake.
Can you bring a producer again to fact check Heidi. This podcast was supposed to be about what was real and what wan´t, but it has turn into Heidi´s time to re write the story and create new fake storylines....
Heidi is a great addiction in terms of inside but I dont like how she's bashing Lauren when she's clearly in the wrong. Just because she's not there.. but Lauren is so classy and over it
I find it wild that everyone from the Hills and Laguna will talk about all of this but Lauren probably would never come on this podcast. Whitney interviewed Lauren a couple yrs back but you could tell some things couldn't be talked about. Also you could tell Whitney and Lauren weren't really good friends so it was as if they didn't know each other at all. I wish Lauren would just talk more about that time. This was an important part of my early 20s. We learned a lot from the Hills . And bc we've never really heard her side of these yrs.
@@cosmicgem_ I think that was kind of different. I think Stephen had to convince her. Laguna was also a cast of people that all grew up knowing each other. This was pre fame for lauren. I think with the hills she was already experiencing her fame before she met everyone else on the show. I think the hills was obviously massive for her career but kind of become a dark time for her at some point. She left 13 - 14 years ago and really hasn’t looked back.
Lauren probably feels confident in her perspective and doesn’t need the validation or criticism of how she remembers the time. It also seems like she’s tried to forget a lot of it lol
Ugh I was enjoying this so much and as soon as Heidi enters . She js bashing Lauren whenever she could. All these digs are crazy !! Like what about Heidi’s mom what about that drama was that all Spencer’s “ genius work” cuz her mom tears didn’t look fake . Do they ever even cover that ?
@@ct6852 noooo actually I started watching when I was 7-8 years old cause my sisters used to watch it hahaha and I loved it, I love reality tv, so I started rewatching as I got older and I started understanding more, this is my 5th time watching the whole thing (Laguna beach and the hills)
@@lizetholvera9995 Yeah it's an addictive show. Has a weird pull after you've gotten into it a bit. The early seasons of Real World are what I watched when I was young. Fun to go back and watch those.
The fact that it has been this long and Heidi still has so much bitterness…like I think at this point it’s the only thing Heidi and Spencer have to speak on to keep their d list celebrity status. Try to venture off and do something new besides talking about fake drama from 15 years ago 😵💫
Thank God Kristin was not interested in doing The Hills, cause look what happened when Lauren left and they brought her! And I love them both, but you can't deny the last 2 seasons were horrible
Question: If Brody and LC had so much chemistry and genuinely liked each other, and even their friends thought they were perfect for each other, what happened? Why didn't they become a real life couple? From Imogen a huge fan from New Zealand :)
Audrina was the true star of the show She was there from the beginning to the end ... The producers really liked her and wanted her to be on the show the most Audrina doesnt get enough credit
lauren’s only real issue is that she expected a lot of her friends and at one point maybe was dependent on them which is why it probably hurt her so much when heidi ditched her i’m sorry but you’ll never convince me that she was the bad person in this scenario considering heidi and her leech of a husband were spreading lies about her
This really has a lot of potential. Why not actually watch the episode? You’re all together in a studio filming….. obviously it would be easy to get permission from MTV. That would be A LOT better than you guys rambling and hardly talking about the episode
No Lauren left cause .. she was over the show she didn’t leave cause she thought the show was over she decided to leave .. and they already said there was seasons bout film .. when Lauren was still filming stop and decided to leave Omg
I understand people saying that Heidi is taking digs at Lauren and not liking it, but she finally has a platform to tell her side. I think we need to have an open mind because for the longest time, we watched the show through Lauren's filter. And I say this as team Lauren. She is not perfect, nobody is.
Heidi has not kept quiet for a day in the past 15 years (or whatever it is), spinning her false narrative that everything was scripted, Lauren was mean and that the sex tape was real. It’s all she has to talk about. She has nothing else going on in her mundane little life.
@@ch_mo_1051 so true. And remember her and Spencer’s podcast where they watched Laguna Beach? I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a whole secret shrine dedicated to her in her house. Bitch is obsessed!
I can’t wait for them to recap the YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID episode. Audrina is gonna be like “so I just went along with what Lauren said because I was scared I’d be taken off the show. I didn’t actually think Heidi did anything wrong it’s all Lauren’s fault.” I’m sorry but the only people that have a problem with Lauren and Heidi and Audrina. Heidi has spent the last 10 years with Spencer trying to change the narrative that Lauren is this evil person and was “image crafting” which is exactly what they were doing trying to act like they were huge superstars back in the day which resulted in them going bankrupt. Lauren didn’t like Spencer and she has every reason not to he was a horrible person. People change and deserve second chances but instead of owning up to what they did they pass blame to Lauren and try and make it like they were the victims when they forget they were blasting Lauren all over MySpace making disgusting remarks about her body and selling stories about her to the press. But Heidi doesn’t like to talk about that she just likes to complain about how Lauren (a 20 year old girl at the time who just got out of a wild relationship with a drug addict) was not happy Heidi was spending all her time with her horrible boyfriend. I’d have been the same! Audrina is hell bent on the fact that a guy who she was stringing along in between Justin Bobby told her that Lauren and Justin slept together so has resented Lauren ever since even tho it’s blatantly obvious they never hooked up because Justin hates Lauren. They forget it was LAUREN’S show. She was the star. Not them. So why are they mad Lauren was the centre point. I’d be standoffish to some random girl they found by the pool to be on my show without my knowledge. Audrina likes to act like her and Lauren were never close but they literally lived together for 2/3 years. She couldn’t have been that much of a nightmare if you but up with her for so long. I like both Audrina and Heidi but they never achnowledge their wrong doings and blame everything on Lauren and it’s getting tiring at this point. Grow tf up y’all are nearly 40 years old Lauren hasn’t said one bad word about any of them after she left and she’s a lot classier than them because she was offered millions for a tell all book and she chose not to do it because she didn’t want to put them on blast yet they sit here weekly trashing her. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you none of them would be where they are today without Lauren and they all need a “reality” check.
Theres is giving their perspective on things like saying it was different for heidi spencer when they were not getting along with lauren and then thereis bashing when she calls lauren mean and jelouse of her having a FAKE storyline? And screaming her name with hate everytime she talks like common you can tell your truth without putting down another woman…. Is gross
Trying to dissect the point your trying to make . However I appreciate your feedback . I’m a day 1 hills fan & believe that Heidi was a major asset to the show & I was team LC during the hills era so this isn’t a bias response at all but please give Heidi grace .
@@KiahKassie i started with laguna beach and then the hills from the start, and im just re watching it cause i was like wow it cant be all of what she is saying and it just doesnt makes sense her new stories, no matter how you look at it, it just doesnt add up and you give grace to someone that regrets its behavior all she is doing is creating this new stories that are total lies....she again is gross and pathetic and it bothers me that a child like her has the plataform to spread hate towards a woman that does really good things and actually is a good example not only of a woman but of a person. I will never support someone that has to put down someone else just to say im right 15 years after. Wasnt even that big of a deal for her to keep going against lauren.
We’re both entitled to our opinions. Overall I’m a fan of the laguna beach & hills franchise . Don’t care to get that deep about Heidi or LC . Just here to enjoy the podcast & reminisce about the magic that was made on MTV during my childhood.
@@KiahKassie good for you! I do care about women still going against woman that is why im comenting! And heidi ruins the podcast for me. Your comment was about us the ones defending LC not about the magic of the show, if your comment was just about that I woildnt put my input on your comment!
Audrina hasn’t changed. Meaning that she’ll be on the side of whomever is in the room with her 😂 it’s funny to see.
That definitely came across in New Beginnings. There was one scene when she changed her story when she went from one table to another, not even a different room! 😂
Lauren is still has very close friendship relationships with Dieter, Trey and Stephen Colletti from Laguna, which I think is testament enough to Lauren's character.
Exactly, Kristen even said she had some good times with Lauren they were just not close and any beef they had was sorted before the show started but the show wanted to keep it going. Heidi is a bitter betty 🤣 And audrina just another hater.haha
I think they all say Lauren is a nice girl , she was just too judgey and involved in their relationship s , she did it to Heidi and Audrina , maybe she was just protective
I don't get it - when Spencer is manipulating story lines he is a genius (according to Heidi) but when there is any suggestion of Lauren manipulating story lines or wants something 'her' way, she is awful and demanding and made out to be a diva and a drama queen.....when the show is literally based around her (and the other two wouldn't have had a job without her). Double standards much?
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I think it was more of …let’s do this storyline cause it would make us more famous and build the show up and doing mean things at. people expense that’s why she wanted spencer ofl the show cause he was a fam craz.
Eggg zakkktt ly!
I love how frankie calls heidi out when she trying so hard to make Lauren look bad😂 he told her “but didnt you all know that lauren wasn’t the only one who would have storylines?” When heidi tried to make lauren seem jealous of heidi having her own storyline 😂
Isn’t it funny how they want to make Lauren look bad, but she’s the only one not trying to relive the past and made her money and career in a different way? 😂 c’mon guys - without her there would have never been a show
“Once I went against Lauren”… Once you and Spencer spread the rumor about Lauren. I would like heidi so much more if she was an took responsibility for what she did.
I'm hoping they touch on this more during this season BUT LC Was controlling and a mean girl. She didn't vibe with audrina until Heidi started getting serious with Spencer. When she dated Jason she was MIA from her friends and it was ok for her to stay with a cheater/drug addict who treated her like shit but had so much to say about Heidi and Spencer and audrina + Justin Bobby. She had a falling out with LO but reconnects with her the min her friendships with these 2 starts going south .
Just let that shit go Jason was legit at their vow renewal hes over Lauren's over u get over too
@Omojefe Ugbeyan I just finished reading watching The Hills. My take on it is Lauren was more of the mother friend. She wanted the best for her friends. That sometimes does come off as control. But really if you real friends don't tell you a guy isn't right for you what kind of a friend are they.
Whitney, Kristin and Stephen have shown that you can do a rewatch podcast that is coherent, entertaining and fun without totally bashing others. The hate is immature and distracting
💯!! I love hearing the behind the scenes but the negativity is so gross! And Heidi showing no sense of growth as a person is annoying to watch
💯💯💯
There is no hate here. Stop being obsessive ....go watch their podcast then lol.
Crazy how Frankie is the only one still cool with Lauren and they follow each other. You can tell he doesn’t wanna over step
@@9r71t3z the common denominator is Spencer, lets be real and stop the woman blaming again…
@@9r71t3z No Lauren always had a goal it wasn’t about just fame. And most of these ppl were envious so it goes to show if your cool then your not a hater. And I agree stop woman blaming.
@@lalaa8653 totally right LC never wanted to be so famous she wanted to get out and she did from the show she had enough of it and I totally get it being on TV isn't easy we never saw everything what happen in real life after they were done filming most days and everyone there wanted to be famous and make money and dramatically do stuff they were told to do or they would just do it but LC just walk away from a negative place and hey thats what people need to do do t matter if it's family or friends I know how it is being around negative people and I walk away from it
@@9r71t3z People used the shit out of Lauren. No wonder why she ghosted everyone. Probably the only one who *might* not have used her, at least so blatantly, was Lo.
@@9r71t3z the fact that people clamor for Lauren’s appearance in these podcasts says a lot about Lauren’s impact.
“Lauren was so mean” yeah I wonder why 😂 not like you tried to ruin her reputation or anything.
I enjoyed listening to Season 1 but ever since this has become the “dump on Lauren” podcast, I’m done. I LOVE Stephan and Kristen’s podcast and how they are so respectful of everyone, recognizing it was all for TV and MTV. None of these people would be here if it wasn’t for Laguna and Lauren.
Funny Heidi says Lauren became someone she didn’t recognize…. Heidi became someone no one recognized so she can’t speak
This 😂😂😂 so true!!
Literally
Heidi was young and wanted fame . I wasn't a fan of hers the min she got with Spencer but now I can honestly say Iike her a lot
Bruh she's knows lauren way better than u just belive everything u watch Lauren's the common denominator
@@zaqueenzhane7744 LMFAO ya and Heidi would never lie because she’s bitter….. Tell ya what I will believe her when pigs fly
These people are here because of LC. Heidi just can’t say anything nice. Lol
Right? I don’t like that she speaks for Lauren..just state your own truth.
They still salty.. 😂😂😂😂 Meanwhile Lauren banking without them
Projection. Heidi has so much guilt over what she did to her friend Lauren that she’s making it seem like Lauren was the mad, jealous type who was deeply obsessed with her show. When clearly Heidi’s BF and Brody were talking about how they wanted to be on the show so badly. So here’s my final thought: listen to the difference between Kristin and Heidi talk about the past and Lauren. Kristin owned her part, Heidi doesn’t. I want to like her but she seems so bitter. Stop bad mouthing Lauren and start speaking the truth. That’s how Stephen and Kristin got Lauren on their podcast.
I don’t think she feels guilty AT ALL. She’s just a narcissist who is mad that everyone doesn’t believe her narrative
I agree it comes off that her and Audrina are very bitter. They act like they would of been able to make a show without her. You tried that and it didn't work...
@@sarahnicol9341 Yeah that is way surprising and sad to see. Be respectful at least, Lauren was your good friend and the reasons you get paid to this day.
Lauren was an immature weirdo who wanted full control of her friends.
Couldn’t agree with you more. The hate talk towards Lauren since Heidi started is making me not love the podcast.
Bro. Is Heidi okay? Like for real though. Her constant digs at Lauren are not only unecessary to the concept of this show but just weird. It's almost like she's still grieving or healing from that experience, and maybe she is but it feels like projection.
Without lc name the fans wont be interested to watch so always using lc to get bk to fame world
Grown adults still trying to bring Lauren down. Move on.
I don’t think it is fair to constantly talk about someone who is not there to defend themselves.
Okay I was going to give the podcast a chance, but if it’s about bashing Lauren I won’t. Thanks for this.
I understand they don’t like Lauren for personal reasons and that’s fine but now this pod is constantly throwing digs at her.
I like how in a good way Heidi seems to keep them on track. They tend to go off topic a lot and Heidi is always pulling back to the topic. Good.
I thought that was Audrina doing that
are you the same person who commented the same thing on the last video? lol
I really hate how they keep throwing digs at Lauren. There’s a way to do this podcast to tell their side and truth without bringing someone else down! It seems like Heidi is holding on to feelings from back then that she really needs to just let go!!
Same. I feel like Heidi is using this to pin Lauren as the mean bitch. And that she was innocent. Everything she talks about revolves around her .
Meanwhile Lauren’s off in her beach house with her beach aesthetic being beachy
I mean she can only tell us her perspective and that’s how she sees things
Agreed!
Just watching the show back it was clear that Lauren was toxic and used people to do her dirty work. I’m not sure I saw it when I was younger.
Brody’s pup chilling is my favorite part of each episode
Also it appears Heidi is unable to make it through a segment without making negative comments towards Lauren, extremely sad. As opposed to Lauren who is running a non profit company "Little Market" to help empower struggling woman in the workplace & featuring on Stephen & Kristen's podcast which was a very genuine positive mature episode between the three of them. I think Heidi must be insecure to feel this persistent need to talk about Lauren negativity on every platform she appears on.
Lauren living in all these minds, not even free, it's like they're paying her 💀
I mean it made me go and buy some of LC´s make up stuff hahaha, doubt I´m the only one so yep they are generating her more business 😂😂
I am over the Lauren bashing after all these years later like at one point they was bff like i feel like Heidi keep saying the same thing about Lauren like enough already just say your thoughts on the episodes and stop the Lauren bashing and now that Heidi is on this Audrina jumping on the band wagon.
For Brody to say Kristen was the clear break out star from laguna is LAUGHABLE…
I love how Brody respects Lauren when he talks about her
STOP SHADING LAUREN. Ugh so grimy and tacky!This is really disappointing. If the cast is reading these comments (or the podcast editors), please read the entire comment thread and pass this feedback on.
In every podcast you listen with heidi she puts kristin on a pedestal to pit her up against lauren
Also them trying to throw shade at Laurens actions on the hills is soo lame they act like they werent all the same stage of being twenty and naive
Brody had no personality other then being a player and audrina was an airhead who got back with her ex who was playing her and frankie u were just a side character take a seat
I hope every week isn’t going to be bashing Lauren.
Heidi is shading Lauren every chance she gets, like they were never friends.
Right? And in the show kept crying over Lauren and wanting so bad to be friends with her once Lauren cut her out.
I think this podcast should be titled "throwing shade towards Lauren" it is just terribly negative & Heidi is extremely bitter towards Lauren & between her & Audrina it is creating a negative energy.
Yes, is a little disappointed that they still want to bring the same drama and negative vibes about Lauren, like they all were friends with her back then, they knew rhe situation and they just make it sound like they were fake, so sad, I used to look up to all of them. :/
I feel like Heidi is using this as a way to just bash Lauren. She’s painting Lauren as the mean bitch / bully . Everything that comes out of her mouth is all about how Lauren was mean. I curious to see how she justifies her storylines .
That’s why I was hesitant to listen to it. Now I’m glad I did not. Lol
@@laurenmeltzer7159 agree. I’m just more curious to see what she says. I was hoping that she wouldn’t start off bashing her . But I was wrong .
Heidi is such a liar trying to make Lauren look like a bad friend when she’s the one that was the worst friend
How do you know that though? You only saw the edited version of the show!
Heidi is kinda keeping us real .. agree there is some resentment for sure. But I think she is being honest.
@@hjet5604 heidi is not keeping it real at all! She is straight up lying and making up stories that no one seems to know exept her… how convenient…..she is a liar and a very inmature person.
@@marpalpe8255 Heidi is the only one that lived with Lauren during season 1 and 2 … hence she is the only one that would know these things.
Her and Lauren are best friends and knew each other before the hills. All other people are casted for the show. So it makes sense that only Heidi knows.
Again I say you only watched an edited version of the show! Not everything shown in 20 mins episode will cover every truth and every detail of everything in their lives.
@@hjet5604 that doesnt mean she is telling the truth... the hate in her words and the way she is bashing lauren is enough to see she is lying.... the others seem to work well with Lauren, she even tries to make audrina speaks bad on lauren.... she is gross
@@marpalpe8255 I don’t agree! I think she’s telling her truth! And this is exactly what makes this podcast more interesting!
I defs see she has a lot of resentment for Lauren! And I think she is just letting it out. And now she can narrate the show however she wants.
I mean. I watched the S2E1 podcast episode cause I used to love The Hills, but it kinda turned into Heidi just making digs at Lauren throughout. The promo for this episode was just the same thing. She just sounds bitter about the fact it was centered around Lauren which is kinda crazy cause she wouldn’t have a career if it wasn’t for Lauren. Also notice how Lauren has always stayed quiet about all this?
Feel like Frankie should be sticking up for his friend more 🤷🏻♀️
I agree it's to much Lauren bashing it's unnecessary.
Lauren created an empire and I think there is a little jealously there.
Agreed!
In today’s episode, Heidi makes it to 3:45 before talking shit on Lauren… 🙄
And that's when I stopped watching.
Heidi has ate out on LC name for almost 20 years.
She should have stayed in school like was suggested. Lauren has prosperous business ventures, a normal hardworking husband, healthy relationship.
What's Heidi got? Oh. Spencer Pratt.😅
I do hope they had insurance on their home.😥
This is the first episode I watched and I have to say I will not watch it again...they really need to stop throwing digs at someone who isn't there to defend herself - immature and childish. I prefer Whitney's reaction videos 1000000% more
Bless Frankie’s amazing memory. How he can just remember the details of any specific night out, which club they were at. It’s a gift 👌🏻
Is it necessary to throw shade at lauren? She doesnt talk about any of them lol. Whats the problem?? Wish we knew..
So Heidi's motivation to join this series really is just to shade / taken down Lauren. Would also be keen to hear Kristin's thoughts on them saying that The Hills was meant to be her show originally but because she passed on it they gave it to LC...
Yes me too!If this is true i think the show would have been a flop, thats my personal opinion. (max 3 seasons)
On Laguna Beach Kristin was more on the front line, but when Jason kissed Jessica on that fashion show things changed.
The way Lauren handled things with so much maturity and poise at 18 years old, to me it was very impressive. I think thats when she became a more desirable character and the producers saw it.
As much as i like Kristen now, back than she was just too much for me, loud and obnoxious, all over the place. If she says yes to the hills, it would have been full of yelling, bar fights, gossip etc.
I personally loved following Lauren and Whitney’s career, they were very likable, and people were rooting for them.
Lauren kept carrying herself with poise, setting boundaries, and standing up for herself, which was a good example for young girls. I believe, that is why she is popular to this date. She just focused on her fashion career and didn’t get caught up in fame and money.
When Lauren left, it was obvious that she made the show, despite all the comments these three make on this podcast…”heidi you made/carried the show”.
Then why it didn’t last longer than an extra two seasons? Ratings plummeted, Speidi completely lost the plot in the end. All the scenes with them became painful to watch, desperately trying to stay relevant by picking fights.
Heidi comes across very bitter and jealous, i think deep inside she regrets her decision.
I would not be surprised if in 10-15 years she will come out and claim she was in this abusive relationship with a narcissist who controlled her. Heidi is nothing without Spencer she has nothing, no money, no career she is stuck. But this is just a theory, so don’t come at me 😅
Spencer ruined the show and everyone’s friendship
Did Brody just admit to being an opportunist lol by being a fan on Laguna and knowing Lauren was going to be on The Hills to take her on a date…….um kinda ick 😑🙄
The continued bitterness is so evident
Audrina and Heidi really need to move on!! Why are they still hating on Lauren after all this time, its very weird, they are adults now, drop the toxicity and just stop talking about her! Kristen and Stephen are pure class in how they have done it.
Yes! Watching this just makes me realize how great Kristen and Stevens podcast is!
I don't know if Heidi is excited to drag Lauren all the time or if she's just glad to have a platform to tell her side of things.
Seems likes she’s happy to have a platform to make small jabs at Lauren. Lauren never has any thing remotely negative to say anything about anyone but Heidi obviously has some hard feelings left after all these years.
@@stephanielopez6921 yeah and Lauren is so classy.. she'd never do it
Watching Lauren working some aspect of Fashion, from a runway show to styling, is always fun and why there was a The Hills show. Love watching Lauren and Whitney do their thing 💖💖
Awww, Brody… I love hearing you initially fanboy over Lauren 🥰 And your sweet remarks about how she made you feel comfy and cool about filming and hanging out in general. You two developed a genuine relationship/friendship and it showed at that time 🥰
Love when Audrina hangs up on Spencer 😂 Perfect! It is obvious you recognized him as being a flea/tick… with sweaty armpits. Audrina is still doing great with moving along the dialogue, as she did the first Season of the podcast. I love when they show more of Audrina’s involvement in the music industry going forward. She and her sister were such music enthusiast 🥰
I am always grateful for Frankie’s commentary ☺️ He remains the ultimate plug with the real and actual truth on many goings on behind the scenes. And, yes, it is obvious that all the ladies would have their own individual story lines. Thankful for more of Frankie in Season 3 and beyond- [Especially that epic Season 3 Episode 1 opener 🔥]
It is hilarious watching everyone react to Heidi’s stories with “What?!” “I didn’t know that” 😂😂😂 The mistruths are really funny 😆
Cute New Intro!! Keep having fun!
I knew it would be a shit on Lauren show once Heidi joined and I was right.
Heidi obviously isn’t over what happened. It’s sad that she feels she has to project so much negativity even after so long😬
My favorite part of all of this… The sweet dog laying on the floor. Just so chill! ❤
Heidi is getting ideas from back to the beach with Kristin and Stephen saying everything is pieced together and different timelines.
just last week she was just some poor girl that couldn't afford to pay for school lol
she is not getting ideas thats just how it was for all relationships on these tv shows. Just cause somebody else said it first doenst mean somebody else cant speak on it. It must be weird to watch it all out of synch with what happened. Its like somebody messing up your diary timeline.
youre pretty clueles if you think Heidi & spencer have never spoke the past 15 plus years about how the show didnt show their relationship correctly in chronological order. Im sure they have in many various interviews long before back to the beach. Im sure all have them have done so. These podcasts are not some new revelations!
No waaay, it’s almost like MTV, who produced both shows, did the same thing on BOTH SHOWS.
This podcast is so immature and childish compared to the Back to the Beach with Kristen and Stephen. You have 30 year olds (mostly Heidi) still throwing shade and even fantasizing about the friendship she use to have with Lauren. The fact that Kristen and Stephen managed to get Lauren on their podcast regardless of their drama from decades ago speaks volume of how much they've grown. Meanwhile, you still have Heidi who just remains sour.
Heidi’s just in love with Lauren.
OBSESSED
So much shade throwing since Heidi joined .........just the little comments about Lauren. Its constant. You can tell Frankie gets uncomfortable (being friends with her still)
I'm not sure how I actually feel about this anymore. Heidi has changed it but in a negative way. So much shade towards Lauren and its actually very mean. It wasn't like this in previous episodes. Heidi is trying to make Lauren look like the bad person when that isn't true.
spencer ruined her
y'all are so bitter and it's obvious!
18:39 honest Heidi moment. We need this “it was me!” Followed by the “exactly” girl (reference to Whitney and Timmy channel ;)
Like if Lauren had the chance to bare it All.. without being so nice and tell the true story she would but that’s the thing Lauren has class .. character .. shes ..nice and sweet and and a role model and lives her life private and it’s hers she was tired of the BS .. and I applaud her for that
Is every episode going to be Heidi taking any and every opportunity to bash Lauren?! If so, she can go. Talk about you and Spencer and whoever else even if it is Lauren, but you don’t have to go above and beyond to trash her. And no one speaking up like “okay moving on” is just as bad
Thank God they got Heidi on the show! Much much much better and we finally get ALL the behind the scenes info! So excited for this season but wish they had her with from the start.. They should almost just go back and redo the first season lol
Except that half of what she says is lies
They can say that without Heidi and Spencer they wouldn't have gotten a season 3 (which there may be a little truth too), or that the show would have been super boring if it just followed Lauren's story but, look what happened when Lauren left the show...
Indeed! They certainly kickstarted when they dropped the sex tape rumor, but the reason why the show got popular is because of, how Lauren handled all the confrontations she remained levelheaded, set her boundaries very clearly.
I look forward to these every week!! Great inside scoop on how the hills was meant to be Kirsten’s show!
I hope you have Kristen on a guest for the spide wedding episode!! And season 5 part 2
Producers have said it was never offered to Kristen first, it was Lauren but they wanted Kristen to join but at the time she wanted to concentrate on being an actress. But all hearsay.haha
@@val9893 I heard this also. Kristen declined because it was “Lauren’s thing.”
The paint ball date is in the deleted scenes part on the dvd
Its the dog for me🤣
Was Brody ever in a committed relationship?? Lol every girl that gets brought up is “oh it wasn’t serious” plsssss
Also? Wouldn’t blame Lauren for being annoyed at Heidi’s fake pregnancy storyline….. I would be annoyed having to entertain a fake story line too. Thats the downfall of reality tv is it became all fake.
I’m waiting for the jen bunny episodes
Can you bring a producer again to fact check Heidi. This podcast was supposed to be about what was real and what wan´t, but it has turn into Heidi´s time to re write the story and create new fake storylines....
Shoutout to Frankie for bringing up Brody’s girlfriend 💕 Frankie is so respectful
Heidi is a great addiction in terms of inside but I dont like how she's bashing Lauren when she's clearly in the wrong. Just because she's not there.. but Lauren is so classy and over it
The bar was Barking Frog in London, Ontario 😁
Heidi is such a great addition! I watch entire episodes now 😂
Audrina should have said she hated filming with Lo! 😆 she was awful to her. Lo was literally the worst.
I find it wild that everyone from the Hills and Laguna will talk about all of this but Lauren probably would never come on this podcast. Whitney interviewed Lauren a couple yrs back but you could tell some things couldn't be talked about. Also you could tell Whitney and Lauren weren't really good friends so it was as if they didn't know each other at all. I wish Lauren would just talk more about that time. This was an important part of my early 20s. We learned a lot from the Hills . And bc we've never really heard her side of these yrs.
these folks dont have as much money as lauren, and zero talent lol they have to milk their time on reality tv lol
Honestly when it pertains to the Hills, I don’t think Lauren really wants to talk about that time anymore.
She was in Kristen and Stephen’s podcast.
@@cosmicgem_ I think that was kind of different. I think Stephen had to convince her. Laguna was also a cast of people that all grew up knowing each other. This was pre fame for lauren. I think with the hills she was already experiencing her fame before she met everyone else on the show. I think the hills was obviously massive for her career but kind of become a dark time for her at some point. She left 13 - 14 years ago and really hasn’t looked back.
Lauren probably feels confident in her perspective and doesn’t need the validation or criticism of how she remembers the time. It also seems like she’s tried to forget a lot of it lol
I met Frankie in Fl back in the day.. We talked a few times on the phone and he ghosted me after awhile
Hahah they do still play unwritten at the bars it’s so good!!
Ugh I was enjoying this so much and as soon as Heidi enters . She js bashing Lauren whenever she could. All these digs are crazy !! Like what about Heidi’s mom what about that drama was that all Spencer’s “ genius work” cuz her mom tears didn’t look fake . Do they ever even cover that ?
Great episode!
Im 23 and I hate that more people my age don't even know about the hills, they're missing out
Where did you hear about it? Did you see it on Netflix?
@@ct6852 noooo actually I started watching when I was 7-8 years old cause my sisters used to watch it hahaha and I loved it, I love reality tv, so I started rewatching as I got older and I started understanding more, this is my 5th time watching the whole thing (Laguna beach and the hills)
@@lizetholvera9995 Yeah it's an addictive show. Has a weird pull after you've gotten into it a bit. The early seasons of Real World are what I watched when I was young. Fun to go back and watch those.
Can we swap heidi for lauren ❤
Love watching this in my Green Kunzite Pratt Daddy pendant! 💚 Love you guys!
oh god........
“If I’d met my 25 year old girlfriend when I was 25….”
😅😅😅😅😅
I had my son in 2009 and was a huge fan of the hills and Brody! So I named him after Brody Jenner lol
Does anyone know which Canadian venue they were referencing? Was it the barking frog in London, on??
Ohhh the Lauren shade! It’s not exhausting
I'm not going to continue watching, it's just going to be trashing Lauren the whole time.
The fact that it has been this long and Heidi still has so much bitterness…like I think at this point it’s the only thing Heidi and Spencer have to speak on to keep their d list celebrity status. Try to venture off and do something new besides talking about fake drama from 15 years ago 😵💫
Thank God Kristin was not interested in doing The Hills, cause look what happened when Lauren left and they brought her! And I love them both, but you can't deny the last 2 seasons were horrible
Question: If Brody and LC had so much chemistry and genuinely liked each other, and even their friends thought they were perfect for each other, what happened? Why didn't they become a real life couple? From Imogen a huge fan from New Zealand :)
Audrina was the true star of the show
She was there from the beginning to the end ... The producers really liked her and wanted her to be on the show the most
Audrina doesnt get enough credit
i’m really not digging out ever since Heidi came on she just throws jabs at lauren and now audrina is doing it
Brody made the show more exciting cause he was very suave. 😊
This is nowhere near as good as kristin and Stephens pod.
Why are y’all so shocked to hear these people don’t like Lauren? Did we watch the same show? Orrr
lauren’s only real issue is that she expected a lot of her friends and at one point maybe was dependent on them which is why it probably hurt her so much when heidi ditched her i’m sorry but you’ll never convince me that she was the bad person in this scenario considering heidi and her leech of a husband were spreading lies about her
This really has a lot of potential. Why not actually watch the episode? You’re all together in a studio filming….. obviously it would be easy to get permission from MTV. That would be A LOT better than you guys rambling and hardly talking about the episode
I agree why are they rambling when they could just copy Whitney’s set up? Which they basically already did just downgraded version lol
@@madisonshirley8231 Exactly!!! They really need to get Timmy to produce this podcast😂😂
Heidi get it over now girl…..
Keep moving
Stop mentioning Lauren
No Lauren left cause .. she was over the show she didn’t leave cause she thought the show was over she decided to leave .. and they already said there was seasons bout film .. when Lauren was still filming stop and decided to leave Omg
I understand people saying that Heidi is taking digs at Lauren and not liking it, but she finally has a platform to tell her side. I think we need to have an open mind because for the longest time, we watched the show through Lauren's filter. And I say this as team Lauren. She is not perfect, nobody is.
Heidi has not kept quiet for a day in the past 15 years (or whatever it is), spinning her false narrative that everything was scripted, Lauren was mean and that the sex tape was real. It’s all she has to talk about. She has nothing else going on in her mundane little life.
Did she not have her own podcast where she had the opportunity to tell her side?
@@ch_mo_1051 so true. And remember her and Spencer’s podcast where they watched Laguna Beach? I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a whole secret shrine dedicated to her in her house. Bitch is obsessed!
audrina says she'll tell us what adam wanted to do at the end and then she doesn't. NOT the first time. Don't put it off. Just say it in that moment!
Great show
I can’t wait for them to recap the YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID episode. Audrina is gonna be like “so I just went along with what Lauren said because I was scared I’d be taken off the show. I didn’t actually think Heidi did anything wrong it’s all Lauren’s fault.” I’m sorry but the only people that have a problem with Lauren and Heidi and Audrina. Heidi has spent the last 10 years with Spencer trying to change the narrative that Lauren is this evil person and was “image crafting” which is exactly what they were doing trying to act like they were huge superstars back in the day which resulted in them going bankrupt. Lauren didn’t like Spencer and she has every reason not to he was a horrible person. People change and deserve second chances but instead of owning up to what they did they pass blame to Lauren and try and make it like they were the victims when they forget they were blasting Lauren all over MySpace making disgusting remarks about her body and selling stories about her to the press. But Heidi doesn’t like to talk about that she just likes to complain about how Lauren (a 20 year old girl at the time who just got out of a wild relationship with a drug addict) was not happy Heidi was spending all her time with her horrible boyfriend. I’d have been the same! Audrina is hell bent on the fact that a guy who she was stringing along in between Justin Bobby told her that Lauren and Justin slept together so has resented Lauren ever since even tho it’s blatantly obvious they never hooked up because Justin hates Lauren. They forget it was LAUREN’S show. She was the star. Not them. So why are they mad Lauren was the centre point. I’d be standoffish to some random girl they found by the pool to be on my show without my knowledge. Audrina likes to act like her and Lauren were never close but they literally lived together for 2/3 years. She couldn’t have been that much of a nightmare if you but up with her for so long. I like both Audrina and Heidi but they never achnowledge their wrong doings and blame everything on Lauren and it’s getting tiring at this point. Grow tf up y’all are nearly 40 years old Lauren hasn’t said one bad word about any of them after she left and she’s a lot classier than them because she was offered millions for a tell all book and she chose not to do it because she didn’t want to put them on blast yet they sit here weekly trashing her. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you none of them would be where they are today without Lauren and they all need a “reality” check.
This! 🎯
100% ture
Truth!!!!!
This! There would be no them if it wasn’t for Lauren.
YESSS!! EXACTLY! That's why I stopped watching this s***. #teamlauren
Wow There’s a Heidi hate train Till this day . No one is bashing LC , everyone is speaking their truth.
Theres is giving their perspective on things like saying it was different for heidi spencer when they were not getting along with lauren and then thereis bashing when she calls lauren mean and jelouse of her having a FAKE storyline? And screaming her name with hate everytime she talks like common you can tell your truth without putting down another woman…. Is gross
Trying to dissect the point your trying to make . However I appreciate your feedback . I’m a day 1 hills fan & believe that Heidi was a major asset to the show & I was team LC during the hills era so this isn’t a bias response at all but please give Heidi grace .
@@KiahKassie i started with laguna beach and then the hills from the start, and im just re watching it cause i was like wow it cant be all of what she is saying and it just doesnt makes sense her new stories, no matter how you look at it, it just doesnt add up and you give grace to someone that regrets its behavior all she is doing is creating this new stories that are total lies....she again is gross and pathetic and it bothers me that a child like her has the plataform to spread hate towards a woman that does really good things and actually is a good example not only of a woman but of a person. I will never support someone that has to put down someone else just to say im right 15 years after. Wasnt even that big of a deal for her to keep going against lauren.
We’re both entitled to our opinions. Overall I’m a fan of the laguna beach & hills franchise . Don’t care to get that deep about Heidi or LC . Just here to enjoy the podcast & reminisce about the magic that was made on MTV during my childhood.
@@KiahKassie good for you! I do care about women still going against woman that is why im comenting! And heidi ruins the podcast for me. Your comment was about us the ones defending LC not about the magic of the show, if your comment was just about that I woildnt put my input on your comment!
Aww I love this!
Did not think the show was THIISSSS FAKE!!!😮😮😮
I’m here for the puppy