The same calipers are on all the 40i's aswell (different discs tho), plus some normal beamers that have the perf pack, so quite easy and reasonably cheap to get hold of
Hello, What about brake bias with 348mm caliper used in 360mm disc? It will brake bias to bigger value if only done in front, right? have you calculated how much percentage's we are talking about?
Hi! Thanks alot for so detailed video! Quick question - will the g28 (new m3) brake calipers fit e92 m3? Also the mid sized calipers with 380mm discs probably wont clear 18 inch rims?
Hi I am busy building a 135i, I fitted a complete M3 rear subframe then I fitted M4 rotors and cslipers I found that I needed to trim the dust cover and the plate behind the hand brake shoes, this was pushing against the rotor itself. I used washers to space but not convinced its 100% so I got thicker ones today, will fit over the weekend. The front with stock 135 hubs only allows me to use F30 370mm rotors, no washers/spacers needed. I purchased M4 front rotors but the measurements on the death is 10mm shallower than the 135 and F30 rotors and that forces a big gap between calipers and mounting bracket, the out size of the rotors 380mm fits perfect. I am still thinking if I should install the M3 hub carriers but that would mean new coilovers. I could send photos if you like.
Hi Your best bet is to use 370 front rotors as the fitment is perfect. If you use e92 m3 hub carriers, m4 calipers will not fit. You can also space the calipers if you want to use the m4 rotor like you said but I don’t see the benefit of doing that. WhatsApp me if you want, info is on my fb page. 👍🏻
@@Dax60roll(I have a bmw 135i btw) I just installed f80 m3 front 380mm rotors, calipers with brackets from seemslegitgarage. Fitment is great but I deleted the dust shield completely. Do you guys know if I have to do any coding/retrofit at all? I'm using rbf600, stainless steel lines and ferodo 2500 pads. Brakes dont feel like they have a bite or huge stopping power compared to a e90 335i for example.
@@in54ne82 I just got my brackets from Seems Legit, Waiting for rotors should be here on Monday. You don't need to code but you could do a brake reset/adjust one of the youtubers posted a while back can't remember who, sorry You use the BMW software to do it.
@@Dax60roll I used the bmw software and retrofitted for sport brakes. Also, I coded out some of the brake nannies with protool. Brakes feel great I love them. I need to do the rear conversion when I get the chance now.
Thanks on non m E9x you should use f chassis brakes. Fronts are direct bolt on and the rears need some modifications, I covered the rear upgrade in one of my other videos.
Can the F8X M3/M4 brake calipers just go on the stock E92 M3 spindles? elsewhere online im reading that you will need the M4 spindles to make it work? yet i see you using some washers to make it fit. Do you know anything about that?
Hi I’m using g chassis calipers which have the right spacing between attachment points to fit E9x m3. The f chassis calipers do not fit E9x m3 spindles and require f8x spindles.
Will the rear f chassis m-sport calipers with the 345mm fit onto to a e92 m3 with the same technique as a M caliper? I can’t seem to find a certain answer Thanks
I have a 330I e92 and would like to upgrade brakes, what are my options (currently have 330MM setup I think, I do intend to change some upgrades very soon please help)
I wonder and no one knows if this tipe of brake pack or the ones from F30/F31 original M fits on the normal F31 318d with factory M pack.... I would like to have a pair to try and see but it is too expensive to buy just to try.
Good morning Thank you for this very informative video . I just wanted to find out the front and rear brake discs I understand the f8x for rear and that should work properly The front I’m un certain how the disc will work as the PCD for G series is not the same as E series
I'm trying to retrofit some f30 non m brembos on my e90 328i. I got them with the discs from the 340i. Would it fit if use those discs. Front calipers only
I'm wanting to do a f30 brembo setup on my e92 335xi but I'm curious if this setup would have any negative effect on the abs, stability control, or the brake controlled eLSD function. Suddenly the brake are going to be much stronger than all of its programing expected.
The reason am asking is because on eBay they have the blue ones at 270 plus 51.99 shipping plus tax on each one, the non painted ones are 220 free shipping plus tax each..
This is false, the non painted ones are 340mm the painted ones are 370mm calipers. Same calipers but sized for different sized disks so technically they are different
Hi I've watched your videos about all the bmw brake set ups, very nicely explained by the way. I'm experiencing the clicking noise on My f30 brembo big brake set up on my car. They are the blue 4 pot caliper set up and the 380mm rotors. They are the dimpled slotted rotors and get the horrible click noise. Is this the air making this noise or the pads just going over the rotor making this noise. It's just on the nearside only all other rotors are fine, very minimal noise. Is there anything fix for this at all other than getting blank rotors. Your help will be much appreciated.
Hi there, I assume your brakes are quite new? The reason they click is because of the dimples, they create a bubble wrap pop effect. The other side will be making the same noise, it’s just not as easy to hear it. If you drive next to a wall with your windows down, you’ll hear it. As the disc wear, brake pad deposits with fill The dimples and sound will eventually stop, but it does take a long time. Hope this helps 👍🏻
@@vysgarage thanks so much for the reply.Yes it's very prominent near a wall. Would giving the dimples a rub with some kind of sand paper to reduce the roughness work?. Or was thinking about putting 3m double sided tape on the back of the pads so they retract away from the rotor with the piston. Thanks bud
Hi I have a e90 m3 I want to run front m2 or m3 f80 calipers and discs what do I need, do I need to change the hubs to f80 ones or will they fit my e90 plus will my 219m wheels 18s fit over these calipers thanks
219m come very close to those Calipers, so they might not clear. You will need to change the hubs for f8x if you want to run f8x Calipers, wheel speed sensor needs to be modified and the will gain 10mm in ride heigh. Thanks
@@vysgarage i wondered if the e60 hat was a smaller diameter than the f8x. Looks smaller in photos. I can imagine some people would make a right mess of trimming pads down.
@@timsummers1297 I’m pretty sure you still need to trim the pad when using these calipers on e60 m5. I should have a bit more information on that this week. Another point to make is that when using these g chassis calipers on E9x m3, the discs should be 6-12mm larger than the Calipers. I.e 348mm Calipers work with 360mm discs and 374mm Calipers work with 380mm discs.
First I was like: Nice, finally an OEM solution! Once you started talking about trimming the brake pads I noped out. This is supersketchy and not safe to do and use on public roads.
@@vysgarage These pads are not drawn on a piece of paper by some guy in a shed thinking:"Yeah, these dimensions should do about right..." Companies like Textar, Ferodo etc. are 3D-Constructing their products and running rigidity/heat dissipation tests, both mathematically and real-life of these exact dimensions. Just sawing off some part of literally THE part that saves your life every time you break therefore makes it a very high risk of failture. You are not only getting yourself in danger but also other people on the road that didnt consent to your freestyle mod. Lastly, at least put in a disclaimer in there so you are not legally vulnerable publishing this method. Dude, I am all for thoughtful and money effective mods on cars and like the fact that you want to help the car community. But this is just ridiculously dangerous in so many ways. Sorry to be the party pooper here...
Thanks for your clarification but I have to disagree with you entirely. Just for the record, my method is completely safe and i did extensive research before publishing this video. I also hold a degree in atomotive engineering and I work for a major atomotive oem as applications engineer, plus I have many years of experience with upgrading brakes for road and track use. So firstly, you’re only sawing off the part of the pad that is redundant in this application, it does not come in contact with anything so it won’t safe anyone’s life. Secondly, you are not disturbing pad retainers or shoulders or contact surface which are all critical characteristics. If you would like to have a more in depth discussion about this, please pm the through Facebook and I’ll be happy to explain further. Thanks
@@vysgarage This is just not discussable for me. Selfmade cutting on any part of the brakepad are a no-go. Structural stability and heat absorption of the pad are definately weakened. Plain physics. Automotive degrees not even needed. So while you disagree, at least put a disclaimer somewhere to protect yourself next time someone bins his car with modded brakepads and referring to your video. Good luck.
@@vysgarage hello. I just Purchased F Series M5 Calipers for the front. What rotors do I Need for the front set? The F Series M5 Rotors have a smaller center Hub than the F Series M3, so I Would assume that it is also too small of a center for the E9X as well. Can I use M5 Calipers on M4 Rotors? Please respond ASAP as I am attempting to purchase asap. By the way phenomenal video. Incredibly explained. You just didn't explain the necessary rotors for the Biggest Caliper option
@@littleluxuryliving6805 hi, Thanks for getting in touch. F10 m5 calipers are meant for 395x36 discs, your best bet is to machine out the centre bore of m5 disc to suit your hub. You can also run f80 discs but they are smaller and thinner, so you’d need to modify the carriers to bring the calipers closer to the centre and you should replace the pads when they’re down to 50% to compensate for the narrower discs.
@@vysgarage you truthfully are very well versed in Bavarian breaks. I greatly appreciate your knowledge. I will keep you posted and send pictures after the install. I have also purchased M4 Rear calipers and rotors for my E92.
By far the most informative piece of media on the internet regarding this specific retrofit for the best BMW ever created ;) E92 Naturally Aspirated V8=GOAT
Bet your life is fuckin boring you tory rat😂....you could for a start just tell your insurance, an even if you didn't the chances of someone realising or giving a fuck that youv upgraded your brakes is ridiculously low
Thanks for sharing this :) Regarding pads for the large front setup, Endless pads use part no EIP 302. And then whatever compound you want.
Great video mate, liked and subscribed.
Ive done this conversion as described and works great defo worth it for the money as im supercharged these brakes works a treat thanks for sharing 👍
Can u please share the part numbers you used ?
Thank you so much for sharing Great attention to detail keep up the good work this is the upgrade I’ve been looking for my E92 M3 cheers 👌👍
The same calipers are on all the 40i's aswell (different discs tho), plus some normal beamers that have the perf pack, so quite easy and reasonably cheap to get hold of
I’ll have to keep that in mind did not know that
Great video 👍
Hello,
What about brake bias with 348mm caliper used in 360mm disc? It will brake bias to bigger value if only done in front, right?
have you calculated how much percentage's we are talking about?
I have a 06 BMW 330i what calipers can I use for the front g chassis brake kit
Hi! Thanks alot for so detailed video! Quick question - will the g28 (new m3) brake calipers fit e92 m3? Also the mid sized calipers with 380mm discs probably wont clear 18 inch rims?
Hi
I am busy building a 135i, I fitted a complete M3 rear subframe then I fitted M4 rotors and cslipers
I found that I needed to trim the dust cover and the plate behind the hand brake shoes, this was pushing against the rotor itself.
I used washers to space but not convinced its 100% so I got thicker ones today, will fit over the weekend.
The front with stock 135 hubs only allows me to use F30 370mm rotors, no washers/spacers needed.
I purchased M4 front rotors but the measurements on the death is 10mm shallower than the 135 and F30 rotors and that forces a big gap between calipers and mounting bracket, the out size of the rotors 380mm fits perfect.
I am still thinking if I should install the M3 hub carriers but that would mean new coilovers.
I could send photos if you like.
Hi
Your best bet is to use 370 front rotors as the fitment is perfect.
If you use e92 m3 hub carriers, m4 calipers will not fit.
You can also space the calipers if you want to use the m4 rotor like you said but I don’t see the benefit of doing that.
WhatsApp me if you want, info is on my fb page. 👍🏻
100% thanks
@@Dax60roll(I have a bmw 135i btw) I just installed f80 m3 front 380mm rotors, calipers with brackets from seemslegitgarage. Fitment is great but I deleted the dust shield completely.
Do you guys know if I have to do any coding/retrofit at all?
I'm using rbf600, stainless steel lines and ferodo 2500 pads. Brakes dont feel like they have a bite or huge stopping power compared to a e90 335i for example.
@@in54ne82 I just got my brackets from Seems Legit,
Waiting for rotors should be here on Monday.
You don't need to code but you could do a brake reset/adjust one of the youtubers posted a while back can't remember who, sorry
You use the BMW software to do it.
@@Dax60roll I used the bmw software and retrofitted for sport brakes. Also, I coded out some of the brake nannies with protool. Brakes feel great I love them.
I need to do the rear conversion when I get the chance now.
sup boss!! do i need the m4 knuckle or can i use the stock knucle on my e82.
Will this front set up work on a e9x non m3?
I have a 06 330i what calipers should I get
Nice video man! How does this upgrade work on a non M E9x car?
Thanks
on non m E9x you should use f chassis brakes. Fronts are direct bolt on and the rears need some modifications, I covered the rear upgrade in one of my other videos.
Hello is it fit on 2014 X6 E71 i50 ?
Great video! So this front set sadly wont fit non m e82? So the best option would be either fxx 340 or 370 rotors and calipers? Best regards
Yes, that’s right
do these work on a e61 535d which has a 345 x 24 disc? Any suggestion for a rear caliper upgrade?
Hi
These will work on e60. I made another video with e60 hubs and rotors.
Message me on fb if you need more info.
Thanks
Can the F8X M3/M4 brake calipers just go on the stock E92 M3 spindles? elsewhere online im reading that you will need the M4 spindles to make it work? yet i see you using some washers to make it fit. Do you know anything about that?
Hi
I’m using g chassis calipers which have the right spacing between attachment points to fit E9x m3. The f chassis calipers do not fit E9x m3 spindles and require f8x spindles.
Will the rear f chassis m-sport calipers with the 345mm fit onto to a e92 m3 with the same technique as a M caliper?
I can’t seem to find a certain answer
Thanks
M-sport and m calipers are the same.
You need to use F8x 370mm rear discs
Link where you buy them.Thank you.
I have a 330I e92 and would like to upgrade brakes, what are my options (currently have 330MM setup I think, I do intend to change some upgrades very soon please help)
Use f chassis m sport brakes.
Pm me on Facebook for mere details.
I need information on what I need to upgrade my f10 535i to the m5 calipers,do I need to change my brackets or can I use mine??
Pm me on Facebook
What work on an E60 535i xDrive?
Have you considered the different brake bias as the G chassis 5 series platform will be setup differently to an F8X or E9X?
Yes
You can easily calculate this with the provided piston and disc sizes
I wonder and no one knows if this tipe of brake pack or the ones from F30/F31 original M fits on the normal F31 318d with factory M pack.... I would like to have a pair to try and see but it is too expensive to buy just to try.
Pm me on Facebook, I’ll be happy to tell you what will fit 👍🏻
Thanks for your info and I have updated my x5 e70 front calipers. Do you have the rear calipers 2 pistons?
I have them but I’ve not tried to install them on x5 yet.
@@vysgarage OK if ever the rear calipers fit, I'm very interested to purchase theme from you.
If these bolt onto f80 chassis , from what I know with spacing they should fit on my e46 chassis right?
They don’t fit f80
Hi are these the same as the grey 7 series calipers? They look the same... except the colour...
Hi
Yes they are 👍🏻
Good morning
Thank you for this very informative video . I just wanted to find out the front and rear brake discs
I understand the f8x for rear and that should work properly
The front I’m un certain how the disc will work as the PCD for G series is not the same as E series
On the front you should use original E9x m3 360mm discs with 348mm g calipers or F8x 380mm discs with 374mm g calipers.
Thank you very much for that ! Is it possible to use E9Xer’s m3 oem discs with the f8x caliper
Also would any modifications be need if I fit the G series 348mm caliper with my stock 360mm disk
F80 calipers will not fit E9x m3 hubs.
You can use f80 discs and f80 calipers if you also install f80 hubs.
You will need to trim the pads slightly, that’s it .
I need help sourcing. I’m thinking I’d like to go with the small fronts. How can I get in touch with you
Hi
Look us up on Facebook.
Thanks
On the larger pads for 374mm will I need to trim more then 10mm or just 10mm? Thanks
Only about 10mm
It’s minimal
I'm trying to retrofit some f30 non m brembos on my e90 328i. I got them with the discs from the 340i. Would it fit if use those discs. Front calipers only
Yes, it’s direct bolt on.
@@vysgarage alright cool thanks
I'm wanting to do a f30 brembo setup on my e92 335xi but I'm curious if this setup would have any negative effect on the abs, stability control, or the brake controlled eLSD function. Suddenly the brake are going to be much stronger than all of its programing expected.
you would want to pick up and e9x m3 brake booster if you want the bias to be correct but if you are not tracking it youll be fine.
Hi guys,
Can anyone who did this conversion to list the part numbers needed rear and front ?
Disks and calipers.
Thank you,
The Smaller 4 pistons fits the F30 with non M calipers ?
Yes
@@vysgarage plug in play ?
Does the painted caliper different from the non painted ones. They both say the same thing 4X40-44/348/36
They are the same
The mounting bolts are at the same positions?
The reason am asking is because on eBay they have the blue ones at 270 plus 51.99 shipping plus tax on each one, the non painted ones are 220 free shipping plus tax each..
This is false, the non painted ones are 340mm the painted ones are 370mm calipers.
Same calipers but sized for different sized disks so technically they are different
Is it a F80 hub or a E92 hub in the video ?
E92 m3
Did I miss what discs you use with the 'large' calipers?
You could use m2 compensation 400mm discs with them but you’d probably need 20” wheels
Thanks. Are the x3m calipers the "large" ones?
@@davebgsi yes
Hi I've watched your videos about all the bmw brake set ups, very nicely explained by the way. I'm experiencing the clicking noise on My f30 brembo big brake set up on my car. They are the blue 4 pot caliper set up and the 380mm rotors. They are the dimpled slotted rotors and get the horrible click noise. Is this the air making this noise or the pads just going over the rotor making this noise. It's just on the nearside only all other rotors are fine, very minimal noise. Is there anything fix for this at all other than getting blank rotors. Your help will be much appreciated.
Hi there,
I assume your brakes are quite new?
The reason they click is because of the dimples, they create a bubble wrap pop effect. The other side will be making the same noise, it’s just not as easy to hear it. If you drive next to a wall with your windows down, you’ll hear it. As the disc wear, brake pad deposits with fill
The dimples and sound will eventually stop, but it does take a long time.
Hope this helps 👍🏻
@@vysgarage thanks so much for the reply.Yes it's very prominent near a wall. Would giving the dimples a rub with some kind of sand paper to reduce the roughness work?. Or was thinking about putting 3m double sided tape on the back of the pads so they retract away from the rotor with the piston. Thanks bud
Hi!
What size front disks to use if I have the larger set of calipers?
395/36
M2c 400mm discs or x5m possibly
@@vysgarage Thank you! Do you know if they will fit the 19 inch BBS CH?
It’s unlikely
@@vysgarage Thanks again! Do you think the 374/36 calipers will do it?
Yes
Hi I have a e90 m3 I want to run front m2 or m3 f80 calipers and discs what do I need, do I need to change the hubs to f80 ones or will they fit my e90 plus will my 219m wheels 18s fit over these calipers thanks
219m come very close to those Calipers, so they might not clear.
You will need to change the hubs for f8x if you want to run f8x Calipers, wheel speed sensor needs to be modified and the will gain 10mm in ride heigh.
Thanks
@@vysgarage I already have 15mm spacers on the front of my car so will they help
@@wajidyousaf7472 it’s the barrel clearance that’s very tight, so not something that spacers can solve
@@vysgarage I just seen of a f80 m3 with 219s wheels on it
Hi what is the part number for the pads for the 374 mm
Did you find out in the end mate?
374 pads
Bmw 34106888459
ebc yellow DP42304R
@vysgarage901 thanks mate
Looking for bolt on E36 caliler , disc upgrade with m sport or similar calipers
You can use 340mm f calipers with csl discs or t5 discs.
@@vysgarage for the rear I mean
Yes, e82 135i rear calipers and e38 discs. Discs and handbrake shoes need to be modified. Pm me through Facebook
want to upgrade 08 bmw 328i
Message me on Facebook
Can you show us an example of one of the setup installed on a E92 M3?
The example is the video...
How x1 28i?
Which generation?
Hello,
I have brakes m performance 370mmx30 for front, and I would like to know if they fit on m3 E92? The reference is 20A78803.
Thanks for advance !
Hi,
They will not fit, you would need f80 380x30 discs and f80 hubs
@@vysgarage thanks for your return ! for aviation hoses, which ones do you recommend?
Hel performance
@@vysgarage m4 f8x or m3 e9x ?
Hoses are always car specific.
Pm me of fb if you need more info.
You can use freaky parts kit in the front, it’s a good solution.
Cutting pads sounds a bit iffy. What about a different disc. E60 m5 disc might work.
The e60 discs won’t fit unfortunately due to their hat height.
What is iffy about trimming the pad ?
@@vysgarage i wondered if the e60 hat was a smaller diameter than the f8x. Looks smaller in photos.
I can imagine some people would make a right mess of trimming pads down.
@@timsummers1297 I’m pretty sure you still need to trim the pad when using these calipers on e60 m5.
I should have a bit more information on that this week.
Another point to make is that when using these g chassis calipers on E9x m3, the discs should be 6-12mm larger than the Calipers. I.e 348mm Calipers work with 360mm discs and 374mm Calipers work with 380mm discs.
@@vysgarage ah I see. E60 disc is probably a bit small then. Perhaps another M car might have a disc with a small enough hat to clear...
@@timsummers1297 None that I know of, and I have looked intensely.
First I was like: Nice, finally an OEM solution! Once you started talking about trimming the brake pads I noped out. This is supersketchy and not safe to do and use on public roads.
Ok, please explain why?
@@vysgarage These pads are not drawn on a piece of paper by some guy in a shed thinking:"Yeah, these dimensions should do about right..."
Companies like Textar, Ferodo etc. are 3D-Constructing their products and running rigidity/heat dissipation tests, both mathematically and real-life of these exact dimensions. Just sawing off some part of literally THE part that saves your life every time you break therefore makes it a very high risk of failture. You are not only getting yourself in danger but also other people on the road that didnt consent to your freestyle mod. Lastly, at least put in a disclaimer in there so you are not legally vulnerable publishing this method.
Dude, I am all for thoughtful and money effective mods on cars and like the fact that you want to help the car community. But this is just ridiculously dangerous in so many ways.
Sorry to be the party pooper here...
Thanks for your clarification but I have to disagree with you entirely.
Just for the record, my method is completely safe and i did extensive research before publishing this video.
I also hold a degree in atomotive engineering and I work for a major atomotive oem as applications engineer, plus I have many years of experience with upgrading brakes for road and track use.
So firstly, you’re only sawing off the part of the pad that is redundant in this application, it does not come in contact with anything so it won’t safe anyone’s life.
Secondly, you are not disturbing pad retainers or shoulders or contact surface which are all critical characteristics.
If you would like to have a more in depth discussion about this, please pm the through Facebook and I’ll be happy to explain further.
Thanks
@@vysgarage This is just not discussable for me. Selfmade cutting on any part of the brakepad are a no-go. Structural stability and heat absorption of the pad are definately weakened. Plain physics. Automotive degrees not even needed. So while you disagree, at least put a disclaimer somewhere to protect yourself next time someone bins his car with modded brakepads and referring to your video. Good luck.
@@TheLoomit I love when uneducated people such as yourself attempt to tell people with degrees how to do their job. It's just hilarious to me.
Hello what caliper and disk on m5 e39 please
Hi,
I haven’t covered e39 yet. If might do in the future.
Sorry
@@vysgarage hello. I just Purchased F Series M5 Calipers for the front. What rotors do I Need for the front set? The F Series M5 Rotors have a smaller center Hub than the F Series M3, so I Would assume that it is also too small of a center for the E9X as well. Can I use M5 Calipers on M4 Rotors? Please respond ASAP as I am attempting to purchase asap. By the way phenomenal video. Incredibly explained. You just didn't explain the necessary rotors for the Biggest Caliper option
@@littleluxuryliving6805 hi,
Thanks for getting in touch.
F10 m5 calipers are meant for 395x36 discs, your best bet is to machine out the centre bore of m5 disc to suit your hub. You can also run f80 discs but they are smaller and thinner, so you’d need to modify the carriers to bring the calipers closer to the centre and you should replace the pads when they’re down to 50% to compensate for the narrower discs.
@@vysgarage you truthfully are very well versed in Bavarian breaks. I greatly appreciate your knowledge. I will keep you posted and send pictures after the install. I have also purchased M4 Rear calipers and rotors for my E92.
By far the most informative piece of media on the internet regarding this specific retrofit for the best BMW ever created ;)
E92 Naturally Aspirated V8=GOAT
Hi is the bmw x5 and x2 g series 374mm the same bolting fitment for e9x m3
Yes
Bro trimming pads is probably a really bad idea
Why is that ?
Pointless if you need to reduce the size of the pad that’s not a clean option. Cheap perhaps but messy
I hope you all are aware that "frankensteining" your brake upgrade on a road car, will void your insurance.
Bet your life is fuckin boring you tory rat😂....you could for a start just tell your insurance, an even if you didn't the chances of someone realising or giving a fuck that youv upgraded your brakes is ridiculously low
Hall monitor