On the audio recording front, I've found that what works really well on a super-low budget is a cheap USB audio interface/DI. Guitar Center sell them for like 75 bucks - usually, they're marketed at musicians, but they're great for me; it means I can run my mics into the DI, then run the DI into the DAW on my computer (I use Logic, but even something like GarageBand works really well) and monitor live from my laptop, without an audio recorder or separate mixer.
With a lapel mic, it's important to place it in a position that clothes will be less likely to rub against it. Using a smaller lapel mic where the mic itself doesn't extrude the barrel definitely helps, otherwise it'll be difficult to prevent fabrics from hitting it. You can also use different materials around the mic to build a pocket for it and keep clothes away from the mic. Echo would be caused by the acoustics of the room, not the microphone itself. If you're in a normal and furnished room, you usually shouldn't hear echo. If you're in a room with hard floors, hard reflective walls, and/or no furniture, then you're probably going to hear echo. You can dampen the echo in that room using large, soft dense objects. Big blankets, foam, etc. Anything that can absorb sound to dampen the echo.
id say the echo /reverberation from a room your filming can be somewhat useful at creating a realistic reverb for the voice recording because it sounds like you are acutally in this place.
I have quite a few episodes that focus on various parts of film making. And, although this may not help you right now for school, for future, I am planning a third season which will really dive into taking you through the filmmaking process from start to finish! I’m super excited to announce more in the coming months!
Brilliant video! I'm looking to shoot a short film this summer with a few friends and will be utilising both short-range and long-range shots. Just wondering if the lower budget mic's under $100 can record high quality audio for both short and long range sequences? The ohuhu mic doesn't seem to be in amazon anymore also
Thanks!! Yes, the wired lapel mic and the gold microphone are both under $100 - In fact I think you can get them both on Amazon for less than $100 total!
I have a question. When filming dialogue scenes, should we keep the boom mic over whoever the camera is on if using one camera? Or should we move the boom mic over each actors mouth as they speak?
Most boom ops will usually follow the dialogue with the boom mic, but also only focus on who's on camera. If each actor is wearing a mic, then the boom is more for reference and fail-safe - as it sometimes saves a take if the actor's mic cuts out or ruffles on clothes. But every situation is different (actors standing closer or farther apart, quality of mics, ambient noise in the location, etc.) - so experiment a little and do whatever gets you the best sounding audio.
I'm a bit confused about one part. Is the audio bad if you hook the mic receiver to the camera? Or does that only happen when you don't adjust the settings?
If you plan to connect the mic receiver directly to the camera, it’s important to make sure to use the correct settings. Otherwise, the camera may treat the input like “line level” and the receiver may actually be “mic level”, which means the input level would be way too high and would result in distortion / clipping.
Great explanation, Can you please tell me connect to connect ZoomH1n and Boya BY M1 lav mic to my smart phone so that I can record Audio and Video in together.
Alan Jose you’ll likely want to adjust that manually. Find a good spot where your audio levels aren’t peaking and be sure to test it before rolling on the actual shot :) some cameras really boost the input which can result in unusable audio
So I’m making a short film and have a question about the mic. So I want to plug the mic into the camera itself but is it possible the boom operator can hear the audio using a y splitter with some headphones?
Thanks for watching! Though I don’t know which camera or mic you are using, as that could make a difference, using a Y adapter on your mic before it enters the camera is likely not going to work that well, as the mic levels before entering the camera will be too low. However, many cameras that have a mic input also have a headphone output. You could certainly try a Y adapter on the headphone output to allow both the boom op and someone else to hear the audio. This also insured that you’re listening to what the camera is recording and what level the camera is recording at.
The problem I see with using a cheap, large diaphragm condenser for booming is that it going to have more noise, less gain, less off-axis rejection, and weigh a lot more than the Sennheiser ME 66. It also requires phantom power, whereas the ME 66 can use a battery. Yes, the large diaphragm condenser might sound a bit better in a controlled environment, but it’s not practical for long shoots in the field. Part of the problem is that the ME 66 is a particularly bright shotgun mic, and you might have been better of with a Sennheiser MKE 600, which has a flatter response. That said, the ME 66 should be fine with a bit of EQ in post.
Totally! There are definitely way better (and more expensive) microphones to use for higher end and professional work, but there are a lot of filmmakers who are new to the game and simply looking for a cheap way to get started with good sounding audio. When you have the money to spend, there are certainly many other microphones I’d recommend over some of these.
@@rg14prk I don’t think I have anything on my channel, I’ll have to think about it and see if I used it for anything I’ve uploaded. I have used it in other projects though and have a friend who has used it quite a bit in his projects. For the price, you certainly can’t go wrong.
haha yes there is ... was a goof up with the camera audio settings since I was recording directly to the camera in this video for simplicity. regardless... the information is still accurate haha
I think you’ve misunderstood. You’re right, focus efforts on the actors visible in the shot unless there’s a reason you won’t be shooting one of the actors who speaks off camera. But the point was that it’s important to actually operate the boom mic and follow the actors to keep it close to them, vs simply setting it up on a stationary stand and hoping it sounds good.
The ME67 is an amazing microphone that has really stood the test of time with regards to reliability
Indeed
On the audio recording front, I've found that what works really well on a super-low budget is a cheap USB audio interface/DI. Guitar Center sell them for like 75 bucks - usually, they're marketed at musicians, but they're great for me; it means I can run my mics into the DI, then run the DI into the DAW on my computer (I use Logic, but even something like GarageBand works really well) and monitor live from my laptop, without an audio recorder or separate mixer.
I've never thought of this, fantastic idea!
@Ishtar can you do a video on that?
@@joseagonzalez2973 might do that actually ! been looking for an excuse to make videos
Thanks man! Can you do a video showing the actual process of recording actors? You touched on it.
The Dude 3000 thanks for watching! That’s a great idea, I’ll see if I can get into that in a future video
Just the information I was looking for and some information I didn’t even know I needed.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Nice video man!! I love the quality of your audio!
Thank you!
what about the ruffling of clothes with a lapel mic or the echo you hear in a closed room with a shotgun?
With a lapel mic, it's important to place it in a position that clothes will be less likely to rub against it. Using a smaller lapel mic where the mic itself doesn't extrude the barrel definitely helps, otherwise it'll be difficult to prevent fabrics from hitting it. You can also use different materials around the mic to build a pocket for it and keep clothes away from the mic.
Echo would be caused by the acoustics of the room, not the microphone itself. If you're in a normal and furnished room, you usually shouldn't hear echo. If you're in a room with hard floors, hard reflective walls, and/or no furniture, then you're probably going to hear echo. You can dampen the echo in that room using large, soft dense objects. Big blankets, foam, etc. Anything that can absorb sound to dampen the echo.
id say the echo /reverberation from a room your filming can be somewhat useful at creating a realistic reverb for the voice recording because it sounds like you are acutally in this place.
Nice video, thanks for the suggestions!
Do you have any videos explaining the process of film making, I’m doing a project at school and I want to be a film maker later on
I have quite a few episodes that focus on various parts of film making. And, although this may not help you right now for school, for future, I am planning a third season which will really dive into taking you through the filmmaking process from start to finish! I’m super excited to announce more in the coming months!
Brilliant video! I'm looking to shoot a short film this summer with a few friends and will be utilising both short-range and long-range shots. Just wondering if the lower budget mic's under $100 can record high quality audio for both short and long range sequences? The ohuhu mic doesn't seem to be in amazon anymore also
Thanks!! Yes, the wired lapel mic and the gold microphone are both under $100 - In fact I think you can get them both on Amazon for less than $100 total!
You have sorted out my headache 🙃
that's great to hear! thanks for watching!
I have a question. When filming dialogue scenes, should we keep the boom mic over whoever the camera is on if using one camera? Or should we move the boom mic over each actors mouth as they speak?
Most boom ops will usually follow the dialogue with the boom mic, but also only focus on who's on camera. If each actor is wearing a mic, then the boom is more for reference and fail-safe - as it sometimes saves a take if the actor's mic cuts out or ruffles on clothes. But every situation is different (actors standing closer or farther apart, quality of mics, ambient noise in the location, etc.) - so experiment a little and do whatever gets you the best sounding audio.
Hey! Can't find ohuhu mics anywhere, neweer have one similar. Any experience with this? Is ohuhu a rebranded neweer or vice versa?
I can't say for sure, but the Neewer NW-800 sure looks like the exact same microphone with a different logo slapped on it to me.
It's also a similar price (the Ohuhu was quite cheap too)
When recording speech it's really important to get the mic as close as possible to the person speaking.
Is there a small, affordable mixer you can recommend?
I'm a bit confused about one part. Is the audio bad if you hook the mic receiver to the camera? Or does that only happen when you don't adjust the settings?
If you plan to connect the mic receiver directly to the camera, it’s important to make sure to use the correct settings. Otherwise, the camera may treat the input like “line level” and the receiver may actually be “mic level”, which means the input level would be way too high and would result in distortion / clipping.
Great explanation, Can you please tell me connect to connect ZoomH1n and Boya BY M1 lav mic to my smart phone so that I can record Audio and Video in together.
What should be the sensitivity set in the camera if we are recording into the camera itself?
Alan Jose you’ll likely want to adjust that manually. Find a good spot where your audio levels aren’t peaking and be sure to test it before rolling on the actual shot :) some cameras really boost the input which can result in unusable audio
So I’m making a short film and have a question about the mic. So I want to plug the mic into the camera itself but is it possible the boom operator can hear the audio using a y splitter with some headphones?
Thanks for watching! Though I don’t know which camera or mic you are using, as that could make a difference, using a Y adapter on your mic before it enters the camera is likely not going to work that well, as the mic levels before entering the camera will be too low. However, many cameras that have a mic input also have a headphone output. You could certainly try a Y adapter on the headphone output to allow both the boom op and someone else to hear the audio. This also insured that you’re listening to what the camera is recording and what level the camera is recording at.
Kyle Lawrence thanks for the reply, I decided to buy an external recorder instead.
Thanks for your tips
The problem I see with using a cheap, large diaphragm condenser for booming is that it going to have more noise, less gain, less off-axis rejection, and weigh a lot more than the Sennheiser ME 66. It also requires phantom power, whereas the ME 66 can use a battery. Yes, the large diaphragm condenser might sound a bit better in a controlled environment, but it’s not practical for long shoots in the field. Part of the problem is that the ME 66 is a particularly bright shotgun mic, and you might have been better of with a Sennheiser MKE 600, which has a flatter response. That said, the ME 66 should be fine with a bit of EQ in post.
Totally! There are definitely way better (and more expensive) microphones to use for higher end and professional work, but there are a lot of filmmakers who are new to the game and simply looking for a cheap way to get started with good sounding audio. When you have the money to spend, there are certainly many other microphones I’d recommend over some of these.
@@klawrence1987 Do you have any sample of using the Ohuhu on a boom for a dialogue scene?
@@rg14prk I don’t think I have anything on my channel, I’ll have to think about it and see if I used it for anything I’ve uploaded. I have used it in other projects though and have a friend who has used it quite a bit in his projects. For the price, you certainly can’t go wrong.
@@klawrence1987 OK, thank you, sir!
i will stick to the ohuhuhuhu & the Boya BY-M1 thank you
Why I can not watch Video?
You're talking about sound and also clipping in this video...
Ironic, isn't it? Only a few spots, likely due to a filter applied in post. The information is still useful ;)
@@klawrence1987 yeah it was a good vid. Thanks for that.
@@craig6603 haha thanks! :)
Thanks man.. I was making football tutorials and it sounded like shit.. 🥲🥲
Thanks for watching!
just me or is there clipping on this very vid
haha yes there is ... was a goof up with the camera audio settings since I was recording directly to the camera in this video for simplicity. regardless... the information is still accurate haha
Delete the loud background music!
good job on the intro kyle (not)
Thanks! (not) 😜
no, you point the mic towards the actor that's in the frame. read the script!
I think you’ve misunderstood. You’re right, focus efforts on the actors visible in the shot unless there’s a reason you won’t be shooting one of the actors who speaks off camera. But the point was that it’s important to actually operate the boom mic and follow the actors to keep it close to them, vs simply setting it up on a stationary stand and hoping it sounds good.
@@klawrence1987 you see, maybe that's how you do it, but we are not the same. bye
There's no bass response in your voice. Ergo, I will not use your methodology. My professor is pushing for mono and i am pushing for stereo.
luck!