Her story actually makes me mad they killed her because she wouldn’t stop criticizing them then they demonize her and act like she never existed Actually read it’s hard to preserve her memory in France 😢
protests happen in France to include Olympe in the Pantheon in Paris....only 2 women are represented there compared to over 70 men .....and as it was women that began the French Revolution by storming the palace....i feel this is very important !!!
I really like this video but I'd like to point out that back in those days women had *shorter* lifespans than men due to frequent pregnancies and childbirth. So there was one more injustice to add to the pile. The risks of childbirth were higher and women gave birth far more often in those days (remember if around half of your children won't survive, having lots of them ensured you would have enough). Longer lifespans for women is something that really starts in the 20th century. It was not uncommon for men in the 18th and 19th centuries to have multiple wives over their lifetimes as he would remarry.
Sure, you could say that, but at the same time, isn't kind of sexist the way so many languages refer to a large group of people as a group of men? In English, we've adopted gender-neutral language for the most part over the last few decades. Eventually, I want to tackle Simone de Beauvior's The Second Sex, which delves into this further.
the rights if man , left out women in a very real way and in fact left women without any rights !! look both of them up to see the difference , its very very obvious....and Olympe included maternity rights and responsibility that the man must provide support for his children ect legitimate ir not , which are now in common use today in the courts of law in the UK
I thought the same and a few years ago but my mind was influenced by the comments others made like, “why only men,” but I assured them I meant all people. Oh well...
What was the response of the people when this came out, the higher ups. What was the thoughts of the men on this issue? was it the same as the womens? ps: wierd I have both you and Sadler on my subcriptions.
it was at the time when women stormed the palace....we are lead to believe it was men that did this ! when in actual fact it was working class women that stormed Versailles (not sure of spelling) at this point women's right were brought to the for, main one Olympe, but the men in new revolutionary power then smashed the women's movement down , resulting in Olympe being beheaded and women were subjugated even more for the next 2centurys ......
Olympe was beheaded for her relationship with Marie Antoinette. MA actually met with Olympe and developed a friendship with her giving Olympe a more broad platform for her ideas. Olympe refused to say anything bad about MA that is why she went to the gallows.
And if a guy says "I'm not the dad", he cant get a paternity test without the consent of the Mother in many places. The best solution, of course, is to KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS UNTIL YOU ARE MARRIED!
I don't understand why she saw sex and money as the only issues that contribute to a healthy marriage. Did she think that women and men only want free love and someone to pick up the tab???
God, the endless platitudes. Just stick to the facts: Athenian vs Spartan women. Plato's Utopian equality. The Enlightenment. The French Revolution. Wollstonecraft, de Beauvoir, Woolf, B Anthony, Fridan, Steinem, Millet, Dworkin, Solanas, Morgan, Hooks. Throw in Atwood, Zimmer Bradley, Le Guine, Plath, and French for some feminist fiction.
Great vid. thankyou. I think 'man' could mean humankind as well as a man, so Olympe de Gouges may have been provocatively playing on that double-meaning. Marriage was and is considered a sacrament in the Catholic Church (and other churches), and de Gouge was proposing a secular contract in opposition to the Church. Indeed she was a trail blazer, but it is not black and white. Today divorce is around 50% and single Mums at an all-time high. Olympe de Gouge, like the Revolution, in their rush to make a clean sweep, threw the baby Jesus out with the bath water.
These distinctions are not at all analogous. Nobility have clearly defined extra privilege because they happened to be born with a title attached to their names, not because of some natural biological difference that makes them suited towards a particular role. Men and women occupied different roles (each with advantages and disadvantages) on account of actually being physically and mentally different. The point of the enlightenment was to subject traditional ideas to the scrutiny of reason and test whether they held up or needed to be reconsidered. Nobility and the divine right of kings clearly fails that test, but gender roles have an actual reason behind them and this distinction IS based on public utility.
There should be a movie about her. I never even heard of her through all of my school education. Thanks, patriarchy.
Nice work on someone who often gets left out of the history of ideas!
Always glad to have UA-cam's resident philosophy prof's endorsement of my work!
My heart aches Olympe de Gouges, a wonder of our kind.
Im talking about her in my French project
Very good breakdown and analysis of the document. It creates a clear image of what the document represents. Good work!!!
Vive Olympe ! Vive les femmes ! Vive la France ! 🙂
This is so great, I have a test this week and this channel is super helpful to study with!
Excellent work, I will be using this for my AP World class and have used several other videos for the class as well.
This is excellently explained.. Wow thanks!! You are able to make it clear, concise, pertinent and interesting :)
Her story actually makes me mad they killed her because she wouldn’t stop criticizing them then they demonize her and act like she never existed Actually read it’s hard to preserve her memory in France 😢
Thank you, needed this for my History Assessment...
protests happen in France to include Olympe in the Pantheon in Paris....only 2 women are represented there compared to over 70 men .....and as it was women that began the French Revolution by storming the palace....i feel this is very important !!!
+Samantha Edwards I concur!
Samantha Edwards actually men began the French Revolution.
Really enjoying your videos :) thank you for highlighting these amazing women!
Thank you. Love from India in 2020
Thanks for helping me with
Women in French revolution
I really like this video but I'd like to point out that back in those days women had *shorter* lifespans than men due to frequent pregnancies and childbirth. So there was one more injustice to add to the pile. The risks of childbirth were higher and women gave birth far more often in those days (remember if around half of your children won't survive, having lots of them ensured you would have enough). Longer lifespans for women is something that really starts in the 20th century. It was not uncommon for men in the 18th and 19th centuries to have multiple wives over their lifetimes as he would remarry.
Good point!
I was under the impression that "man" was akin to the concept of "mankind", and therefore, was not used in a sexist manner in the title?
Sure, you could say that, but at the same time, isn't kind of sexist the way so many languages refer to a large group of people as a group of men? In English, we've adopted gender-neutral language for the most part over the last few decades. Eventually, I want to tackle Simone de Beauvior's The Second Sex, which delves into this further.
I did some more reading- the second part of the title is more telling- "the citizen"- since only men could be citizens at time time in France.
the rights if man , left out women in a very real way and in fact left women without any rights !! look both of them up to see the difference , its very very obvious....and Olympe included maternity rights and responsibility that the man must provide support for his children ect legitimate ir not , which are now in common use today in the courts of law in the UK
Your comment triggers me. I sexually identify as an apache attack helicopter.
I thought the same and a few years ago but my mind was influenced by the comments others made like, “why only men,” but I assured them I meant all people. Oh well...
Few members of the assembly supported De Gouges ideas. One of the few was Condorcet .en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Condorcet
im gonna use this in my presentation
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The idea of marriage being a social contract just like a government is genius!!
Very good teacher,thank you...
Very well done. Thanks!
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'Mothers, daughters, sisters' perceiving it still on women in their relationship to men as baby making creatures within a patriarchal society.
WELL HOW ABOUT BROTHERS SONS AND FATHERS?
Thanks for the video it helps me very much
im sorry but i can’t get over his accent in pronouncing her name aha
What was the response of the people when this came out, the higher ups. What was the thoughts of the men on this issue? was it the same as the womens? ps: wierd I have both you and Sadler on my subcriptions.
it was at the time when women stormed the palace....we are lead to believe it was men that did this ! when in actual fact it was working class women that stormed Versailles (not sure of spelling) at this point women's right were brought to the for, main one Olympe, but the men in new revolutionary power then smashed the women's movement down , resulting in Olympe being beheaded and women were subjugated even more for the next 2centurys ......
Olympe was beheaded for her relationship with Marie Antoinette. MA actually met with Olympe and developed a friendship with her giving Olympe a more broad platform for her ideas. Olympe refused to say anything bad about MA that is why she went to the gallows.
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The mug is so cute!!
Haha Thanks! That's one of my favorites!
Your name is Lizard Soap
Interesting
And if a guy says "I'm not the dad", he cant get a paternity test without the consent of the Mother in many places. The best solution, of course, is to KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS UNTIL YOU ARE MARRIED!
Or jusr wear protection xd
🎂Olympe de Gouges 05-07-2022
She was not the first to come up with child support, a member of the sahabah in Islam by the name of Umar Ibn Kittab did it way before.
unrelated but you kinda look like Matt Damon
I don't understand why she saw sex and money as the only issues that contribute to a healthy marriage. Did she think that women and men only want free love and someone to pick up the tab???
yes Good vidéo Im french And I can told you that s you explain the story very well
me plasi trapi ( Who fucking cares and you do the history of a better country Albania)
God, the endless platitudes. Just stick to the facts: Athenian vs Spartan women. Plato's Utopian equality. The Enlightenment. The French Revolution. Wollstonecraft, de Beauvoir, Woolf, B Anthony, Fridan, Steinem, Millet, Dworkin, Solanas, Morgan, Hooks.
Throw in Atwood, Zimmer Bradley, Le Guine, Plath, and French for some feminist fiction.
Great vid. thankyou. I think 'man' could mean humankind as well as a man, so Olympe de Gouges may have been provocatively playing on that double-meaning.
Marriage was and is considered a sacrament in the Catholic Church (and other churches), and de Gouge was proposing a secular contract in opposition to the Church. Indeed she was a trail blazer, but it is not black and white. Today divorce is around 50% and single Mums at an all-time high. Olympe de Gouge, like the Revolution, in their rush to make a clean sweep, threw the baby Jesus out with the bath water.
Noice
These distinctions are not at all analogous. Nobility have clearly defined extra privilege because they happened to be born with a title attached to their names, not because of some natural biological difference that makes them suited towards a particular role. Men and women occupied different roles (each with advantages and disadvantages) on account of actually being physically and mentally different. The point of the enlightenment was to subject traditional ideas to the scrutiny of reason and test whether they held up or needed to be reconsidered. Nobility and the divine right of kings clearly fails that test, but gender roles have an actual reason behind them and this distinction IS based on public utility.