The screenwriter's have obviously forgotten that Alf's wife was knocked down by a car about 2 months before because if i was a councillor and my wife got knocked down i'd be the first in line to represent the occupants of corrie.
Thanks for the laugh, I just spat my coffee out. I always thought it might just be me who picks up on weird details like that. Like why does Alf stock so many packs of cream crackers?! Has weatherfield never experienced the joy of a water biscuit???
Lol you’re right, she was pretty much the devil incarnate from the start!! And yet somehow the writers seem to change her character in the later years into more of a sweet old dear, not very plausible tbh
I love Vera. Have since she came into the soap, this is the first time I’ve actually hated her character! I hate how much she stands by her son! I understand a mother’s love but she’s ridiculous and it’s so hard to watch!!
The little baby who plays David is very unhappy all the time. Notice they always shove food and drink in his face... They should have found a different child to replace him
1:55:24 forgive me for being a blunt here, but I'm just not buying this idea that Tracy would fancy Doug.. no disrespect to Brian Hibbert, but he was no oil painting was he! Ah well, they say love is blind!
I've always felt Tracy's passing fancy for Doug was based more on spite than lust. She knew he was keen on her mother and so put herself between them to ruin things. I think Tracy was very much her Dad's daughter, and I don't mean Ken, I mean Ray Langton: he was a troublemaker and she had the tendency for maliciousness early on, too. Look how she turned out later!
The driver who knocked Lisa down was played by a young John Middleton. Best know for playing The Vicar Ashley Thomas in The Yorkshire Television Soap Emmerdale 📺
I'm sorry to say it, but how does Jack put up with Vera. Never mind being married to her. She nothing but a nag, I feel so sorry for Jack always being put down by her and most of the time it's in public. When we see what she is like now, you wonder what Jack ever saw in her in the first place. I always thought there should have been like a special flashback episode about when they first met and got together. I real missed opportunity I feel from Granada Television 🤔
I started watching 1977 over the pandemic and made it here now. if I recall they said it were a shotgun wedding of sorts. Vera was already preggo, which maybe explains her loyalty to her one and only!
William: but remember what a whore Jack was for years, And Vera not knowing or ignoring it all . Now Jack gets older. Not as virile anymore . Vera gets to bitch him out. She knows full well what Jack did to her....Her hormones are gone now, and us women loose sympathy for cheating husbands.....Notice Jack doesn't leave her.. Hes lucky to have her.
Guessing this is where they decided to REALLY flip Terry's character. The death of Lisa is a good way to explain why he became the heartless despicable character he did. If you think that's the same character who fought to be with Andrea Clayton and their child they had together and the despair he was in when she moved away to how he suddenly doesn't care about Tommy in the slightest 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Seems like Denise is supposed to be a revived Elsie Tanner. They've tried to make her identical to Elsie in every way. Also, it's unreal how many women Mike and Ken have coincidentally "shared". 😬
@@EveHenleySpread No she's not. But it seems like with her, they tried to fit that likeness. The way she looks and speaks.. her saga with men... They tried to force a new Elsie.
I don't know why they had Audrey get knocked down if it didn't change anything. Surely that would have been the point they solved the traffic issue. I think Lisa would have been a good long term character. Pity they killed her off.
Something amusing: During the segment when Des is standing by himself, you can see what I take to be a microphgone in the upper right corner of the frame, lol. I was a little surprised that this made it past the editing stage.
Happened a lot over the years. My first job in tv in 1986, as a studio boom operator, you couldn't always see the vision clearly on the old monitors plus camera operators weren't tight enough with their shots.
I cannot for the life of me understand who in their right mind would allow their baby to play the part of Terry and Lisa’s baby. Poor wee thing is handed around like pass the parcel and he looks positively frightened when he has Vera’s foul screeching and arguing with him on her knee! Acting or not, it’s child cruelty.😡☹️
Seeing Deirdre & Doug sitting together, Doug reminds me of an older Ray Langton type! Maybe at heart, Deirdre sees it too! I know Doug ( Brian Hibbert) isnt in Corrie long, as other comments have said, seems a shame as he was a likable character, the scriptwriters should have kept him on judging by the shitty actors they hired not long afterwards. I really liked Brians band The Flying Pickets! I loved their harmonising voices & rockabilly attire. At the moment, i think the storyline is dull & trying to be too political, with less humour Its doom & gloom from start to finish! Hmm wondering whether ive come to the end of the line with Corrie! As soon as those horrible Battersbys arrive, im off! Cheers ( i wish Corrie was) 🇬🇧👧
Why is Rita letting this lawyer confuse the time line? There is nothing more important. He didn’t start having those serious issues until AFTER the will, if I remember properly a decent amount of time after the will. She could have corrected him and made it more clear but she just sat there Ok, I just saw the outcome and that Phillip Brooks is something else. Justified?? Well, you just lost yourself the $4000 you guys were going to get. That seems justified too. What money grubbing vultures. No wonder Ted didn’t want them to know. They would have been circling to start picking at his corpse the minute they knew he was ill. He knew what his brother in law was like. Sad
OMG...Is David miserable beyond a baby... soon as he gets tiny bit bigger all he does is grunt/scream constantly...could they not have found a less pain in the ass kid!!!😮
The driver who hit Lisa just said he wasn’t even doing 30(is that faster than 30mph? Because my first thought was 30mph?!?! There is NO WAY she would be dead. I got hit by a car doing 25 mph in the sixth grade , i turned away from it, it hit me in the bum😊 and I didn’t even have a bruise) so I’m wondering how fast that is, would it really kill her??
He meant 30mph which is the speed limit for most residential areas in GB, we have the same system over here except we drive on the left side of the road. Lisa was crouched down though wasn’t she? So that might have explained it, perhaps she just got unlucky.
I had a friend who walked out in front of a car. Car was doing less than 20mph. My friend was knocked off his feet and banged his head on the road. He died three days later from a brain hemorrhage. The driver was mortified... He had done nothing wrong.
Vile Vera, and her acid tongue. I always thought she was lovely, but it was only in her last year's and when Tyrone came to live with them. She's pure nasty over this time period.
Des Be With Lisa Love Each Other Lisa Not Love Terry Anymore Divorce Terry Lisa Be With Des Love Him Be With Des Perfect Lisa Not Love Terry Leave Her Life For Good Des Go Lisa's Funeral Des Still Love Her Be With Her Should Get Married Her Really Love Her Still Des Say Something To Her She Got Her Son Baby Tommy Be With Her And Des Too
Ken is such a drama queen. He still holds a grudge against Mike for something that happened 10 YEARS earlier. Dierdre moved on, Mike moved on, Ken refused to move on and made life difficult over and over again.
RAQUEL GETS ON MY WICK...her voice her character I mean... I did meet her in person and is very pleasant but her character but her moaning and groaning good actress though!! Do love Rita when she berates Mavis.
In footballing terms Mike and Ken are Rangers and celtic. Ken being celtic as he's OBSESSED with Mike. This post should be interesting as time goes on 😂
Good to hear The Shamen, Ebeneezer Goode playing at the garage 🎶
I wouldn't let the Duckworths care for a goldfish, let alone a child.
Makes my day so much better to enjoy these classic episodes x Thankyou for sharing ❤
Love Bet always gives good advice puts others before herself absolute queen
The screenwriter's have obviously forgotten that Alf's wife was knocked down by a car about 2 months before because if i was a councillor and my wife got knocked down i'd be the first in line to represent the occupants of corrie.
Alf didn't want to lose the extra custom driving down corrie
Alf is horrid.
Alf was a right knob selfish if it did not make him any money he couldn’t give a hoot
A rare sighting of Phyllis’ house.
Those Malibu bottles must be the most polished and gleaming in all of Weatherfield and Manchester..Deidres always polishing the grog in the shop..lol
😂
Thanks for the laugh, I just spat my coffee out. I always thought it might just be me who picks up on weird details like that. Like why does Alf stock so many packs of cream crackers?! Has weatherfield never experienced the joy of a water biscuit???
Me too ...also thought that it was just me...I'm dying...tx for the laugh 😂😂😂😂
That entire scene with Vera talking while stuffing her mouth full of food. She was vile back then in every way.
Realistic acting however. Shows the show was directed to be as real life as possible compared to the polished robotic style of acting today
In the real world Sally would be done for theft of Alf's keys but this is Corrie..🤪
Yes - and it's all the product of the writers grand plan!
How in God's name did Vera become such a popular character? During this time she was positively hateful!
Lol you’re right, she was pretty much the devil incarnate from the start!! And yet somehow the writers seem to change her character in the later years into more of a sweet old dear, not very plausible tbh
She is horrible and has been for years, she has only got more bitter and twisted as time has gone on.
I love Vera. Have since she came into the soap, this is the first time I’ve actually hated her character! I hate how much she stands by her son! I understand a mother’s love but she’s ridiculous and it’s so hard to watch!!
I love Deirdree and Tracy's arguments lol
@@nicolasudjum8077 I can never decide which of them needs a slap most.
Dicken Ashworth who played Lisa's dad played a wife beater in Minder 1980 he has a good tear up with Terry McCann near the end.
The little baby who plays David is very unhappy all the time. Notice they always shove food and drink in his face... They should have found a different child to replace him
Noticed that too
He's also mean to baby Rosie
Kinda fitting with the character of older David 🙃
They should get rid of all the screaming kids.
1:55:24 forgive me for being a blunt here, but I'm just not buying this idea that Tracy would fancy Doug.. no disrespect to Brian Hibbert, but he was no oil painting was he! Ah well, they say love is blind!
I've always felt Tracy's passing fancy for Doug was based more on spite than lust. She knew he was keen on her mother and so put herself between them to ruin things. I think Tracy was very much her Dad's daughter, and I don't mean Ken, I mean Ray Langton: he was a troublemaker and she had the tendency for maliciousness early on, too. Look how she turned out later!
I’m sure he was, he’s long dead I’m afraid.. I always think of him as the lead singer of the Flying Pickets back in the early 80s personally
I suppose there wasn't much choice down the street or at school
No more impossible than Tracey being able to deposit £2000 into her building society account without arousing suspicion. 🤣
Its teenage hormones.
Curly is always complaining and giving people unsolicited lectures then wonders why he's single. 😂
The driver who knocked Lisa down was played by a young John Middleton. Best know for playing The Vicar Ashley Thomas in The Yorkshire Television Soap Emmerdale 📺
Scene with Vera the shouting bully = mute
scene ends next, Vera free, scene = unmute.
Bit annoying to have to do it but the silence is golden.
Aaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!..Vera speaking with her mouth full does my head in!!!!😬
I'm sorry to say it, but how does Jack put up with Vera. Never mind being married to her.
She nothing but a nag, I feel so sorry for Jack always being put down by her and most of the time it's in public.
When we see what she is like now, you wonder what Jack ever saw in her in the first place.
I always thought there should have been like a special flashback episode about when they first met and got together.
I real missed opportunity I feel from Granada Television 🤔
I started watching 1977 over the pandemic and made it here now. if I recall they said it were a shotgun wedding of sorts. Vera was already preggo, which maybe explains her loyalty to her one and only!
William: but remember what a whore Jack was for years, And Vera not knowing or ignoring it all . Now Jack gets older. Not as virile anymore . Vera gets to bitch him out. She knows full well what Jack did to her....Her hormones are gone now, and us women loose sympathy for cheating husbands.....Notice Jack doesn't leave her.. Hes lucky to have her.
Why is Rita's contested will being held in a crown court? no crime has been committed and it's a civil matter.
I never thought vera could get on my nerves as much as she is now
Deirdre's appearence frightens me, what she was going for in terms of looks I will never know 🤯
I agree
Poodle stage
Look at the pictures of Deirdre when tracy was born, with straight hair. She looked great
Vera was such a loudmouthed cow.
Guessing this is where they decided to REALLY flip Terry's character. The death of Lisa is a good way to explain why he became the heartless despicable character he did. If you think that's the same character who fought to be with Andrea Clayton and their child they had together and the despair he was in when she moved away to how he suddenly doesn't care about Tommy in the slightest 🤔🤷🏻♂️
So mean to Dez he showed Lisa real love unlike the duckworthless family
Poor Phyllis. Her hair turned blue with the shock of hearing about Lisa!
That’s exactly what I thought!
Seems like Denise is supposed to be a revived Elsie Tanner. They've tried to make her identical to Elsie in every way.
Also, it's unreal how many women Mike and Ken have coincidentally "shared". 😬
Hmmm.. not sure about that, I don't think Denise was fit to lick Elsie Tanner's boots personally!
@@EveHenleySpread No she's not. But it seems like with her, they tried to fit that likeness. The way she looks and speaks.. her saga with men... They tried to force a new Elsie.
There’s only ONE Elsie Tanner 💋
2-34 Ordinary World from Duran Duran playing in The Cafe 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Also "Mysterious Ways" by U2. Good times. :-)
Vera bringing up grand baby will be a disgrace for him. Worst thing that could happen to that child.
Hope baby Tommy has earplugs in. Foghorn Vera bellowing down his ear all the time.
The Sally, Percy, Emily traffic campaign is so dull. But storylines very similar to this pop up intermittently on CS, and surely no one ever cares.
Emily is boring...we need Alec back he was hilarious
A woman like Vera would have drove me mad her way or no way and could be quite nasty
Vera is just a dangerous vile loudmouth without a filter.
I wish Deidre would do something with that bush she calls hair!! It looks horrible!!!
It drives me mad! Looks like she put her finger in an electrical socket. She looked sooo much better with straight hair.
It's a perm
and her teeth, they're such smokers teeth now
Poodle stage
I don't know why they had Audrey get knocked down if it didn't change anything. Surely that would have been the point they solved the traffic issue. I think Lisa would have been a good long term character. Pity they killed her off.
No wonder Alf had no money left when he died, Audrey won't stop spending.
The guy having drinks with Tracy looks ridiculous with those earrings
How did the Gazette get hold of a pic of Rita in her funeral attire?
Yeah i see that cause at that time the photo was taken there was no reason for anyone to take a photo of her.
Something amusing: During the segment when Des is standing by himself, you can see what I take to be a microphgone in the upper right corner of the frame, lol. I was a little surprised that this made it past the editing stage.
Happened a lot over the years. My first job in tv in 1986, as a studio boom operator, you couldn't always see the vision clearly on the old monitors plus camera operators weren't tight enough with their shots.
You tell ‘im Jacko!
Vera making a show of herself
As usual
Awww, wasn't that nice of Raquel to offer her "services" to the grieving Des. Lisa isn't even cold and Raquel is looking to take her place. Cow.
Isn't little Rosie sweet!!She, Sally and Kevin are so right together! Lovely little child!!
Sally's brilliant! Lovely!!
Aww poor Lisa so looking forward to a new life with des and baby Tommy and now loss her life Aww poor girl…
Like she really wanted to be with him, she obviously was just lonely she deep down loved Terry
Beautiful girl. Reminded me of a young Natalie Wood.
@@Guitargirrrl I thought she was that nolan sister for months. Until i have seen the actress name
Maggie looks like an Alien..👽
Odd looking woman/shapeshifter 👽
Curly was an unbelievable sex pest. I remembed him as a funny character not a despicable one 😮
Lisa is a cutie. Des is much more tolerable around her. Used to act like such a jerk with Stephanie.
It didn’t take des long to get with Raquel and I thought he loved Lisa?
Tiny little street, And the whole neighborhood stands still and fights….
Drive around the corner…
Maggie is BORING, and so is Alma.
Is Des(perate) for real? Thinking he has ANY right, say or claim with Tommy being with Jack and Vera?? 🤷🏻♂️
Tracy The Little Minx 😳
Toxic Tracey.
Awww poor Des at the graveside. Next Natalie Horrocks lol
Samantha is first haha.
Poor little 👶. I feel very sorry 😢 😢 4 him. ❤❤❤❤
I cannot for the life of me understand who in their right mind would allow their baby to play the part of Terry and Lisa’s baby. Poor wee thing is handed around like pass the parcel and he looks positively frightened when he has Vera’s foul screeching and arguing with him on her knee! Acting or not, it’s child cruelty.😡☹️
34:19 that wouldn't be weird? Wandering into your hallway and just finding Percy and Emily standing there 😂
I can't buy Des loving Lisa....but they gave it a good shot
Thank goodness ivy's had her roots done
New wig. She was always at the bottom of the wig hierarchy.
Why did they have so many cars going up and down the street all the time during this period? It feels like a high street not a back street
So they can explain the reason Lisa gets killed perhaps?
Because they were pushing the traffic campaign
Steve looks about 12.
And just as mouthy.
He has certainly filled out over the years.
He was about 12! Probably 17
I can’t be doing with him screwing his face up with every word, and frowning, looking up all the time trying to do a James Dean scowl.
@@claredrew8039 agreed. He thinks he looks sultry but he just looks simple.
4 hours 25 minutes. The first time ever Mavis says " I don't really know " 😂
If the writers were trying to make Vera and Jack a substitute for Hilda and Stan, they certainly missed the mark. Vera is AWFUL!!
Seeing Deirdre & Doug sitting together, Doug reminds me of an older Ray Langton type!
Maybe at heart, Deirdre sees it too!
I know Doug ( Brian Hibbert) isnt in Corrie long, as other comments have said, seems a shame as he was a likable character, the scriptwriters should have kept him on judging by the shitty actors they hired not long afterwards.
I really liked Brians band The Flying Pickets! I loved their harmonising voices & rockabilly attire.
At the moment, i think the storyline is dull & trying to be too political, with less humour
Its doom & gloom from start to finish!
Hmm wondering whether ive come to the end of the line with Corrie! As soon as those horrible Battersbys arrive, im off!
Cheers ( i wish Corrie was)
🇬🇧👧
Think you have best part of four years before they arrive
Vera is an awful character in this era!
Why is Rita letting this lawyer confuse the time line? There is nothing more important. He didn’t start having those serious issues until AFTER the will, if I remember properly a decent amount of time after the will.
She could have corrected him and made it more clear but she just sat there
Ok, I just saw the outcome and that Phillip Brooks is something else. Justified?? Well, you just lost yourself the $4000 you guys were going to get. That seems justified too. What money grubbing vultures. No wonder Ted didn’t want them to know. They would have been circling to start picking at his corpse the minute they knew he was ill. He knew what his brother in law was like. Sad
Dolly mixtures!
Alma is 58 in this episode.
Crazy how she never aged.
Like Maggie, Alma and Mike had absolutely no chemistry …….hard to watch .
Deidre’s fried hair with ribbons tucked in…..>😵💫
Do I look tar-eh ? my teacher says I look tar-eh. I like to look tar-eh …….
Where is the part Lisa gets knocked down?
OMG...Is David miserable beyond a baby... soon as he gets tiny bit bigger all he does is grunt/scream constantly...could they not have found a less pain in the ass kid!!!😮
Verá is delusional I wish her time was up sooner.
gosh I despise Vera what an evil person
Ashley in Emmerdale who knocked down Lisa, Vera was unbearable to blind for no good for nothink son
THERE IT IS AGIAN 4 TIMES THAT NEWS PAPER BEEN USED HIGH COURT WIN FOR FA
The driver who hit Lisa just said he wasn’t even doing 30(is that faster than 30mph? Because my first thought was 30mph?!?! There is NO WAY she would be dead. I got hit by a car doing 25 mph in the sixth grade , i turned away from it, it hit me in the bum😊 and I didn’t even have a bruise) so I’m wondering how fast that is, would it really kill her??
He meant 30mph which is the speed limit for most residential areas in GB, we have the same system over here except we drive on the left side of the road. Lisa was crouched down though wasn’t she? So that might have explained it, perhaps she just got unlucky.
I had a friend who walked out in front of a car. Car was doing less than 20mph.
My friend was knocked off his feet and banged his head on the road.
He died three days later from a brain hemorrhage.
The driver was mortified... He had done nothing wrong.
Ashley killed Lisa never knew that.
Well if the collision causes the person's head to hit the road then it can be fatal. Sad storyline. Poor Baby Tommy😢
It could. Depends where hit. You were lucky 🍻
Umm, who did Vera visit in prison because it wasn't RTerry, based on her recollections over breakfast😂
Well well well who'd have thought Ashley the vicar from sleepy Emmerdale killed Lisa 😜
Never noticed that
Maggie reminds me of a hedgehog.. I think she was a very unlikely Hook up for Mike.. not attractive at all, formike
👽
Sally's hair looks terrible!!!
Omg Wee Tommy in the cafe was a FAKE ITS A DOLL HOW CREEPY 😂
I thought that too.
So uncanny 🫣
1:41 30 did Vera pass gas?
Tracy: do I look tar-eh? My teacher says I look tar-eh. Am I tar-eh?
What a horrible hairstyle on mark..
This Ted storyline is so boring 😴
Lisa Duckworth looks like an adult version of a cabbage patch doll.
😂
It'll be the single front tooth in the middle of her mouth.
I thought she would be perfect for playing Wednesday Addams, especially in her first scene on Corrie 😊
@@pls6247 Despite it giving me the HBGB’ s I cannot take my eyes of it whenever she opens her mouth. 🤢🤢
You are spot on.
1:28:58 the start of Lisa Duckworths death
Ashley from emmerdale, didn't know he played another role in corrie
She is a proper boring dollop of a character.
I felt so sorry for des losing Lisa they had their plans and it was taken away (RIP Lisa) 😢😢
Roast ham! 🐷 🤦♂️
Vile Vera, and her acid tongue. I always thought she was lovely, but it was only in her last year's and when Tyrone came to live with them. She's pure nasty over this time period.
I never much liked Vera until that day when Terry took little Tommy, it was heartbreaking
Des Be With Lisa Love Each Other Lisa Not Love Terry Anymore Divorce Terry Lisa Be With Des Love Him Be With Des Perfect Lisa Not Love Terry Leave Her Life For Good Des Go Lisa's Funeral Des Still Love Her Be With Her Should Get Married Her Really Love Her
Still Des Say Something To Her She Got Her Son Baby Tommy Be With Her And Des Too
That about sums it up
Wish I could figure out what you are trying to say. Are you two years old?
@@margaretmcevoy😅😅😅
Why didn't Rita's solicitor not speak to him before he took the stand?
Ken is such a drama queen. He still holds a grudge against Mike for something that happened 10 YEARS earlier. Dierdre moved on, Mike moved on, Ken refused to move on and made life difficult over and over again.
Isnt Doug the guy who had yhe rust bucket van he was a dirty nasty looking guy must be short on actors not the only one who's played double parts .
Errr aren’t you talking about the same character though?
I like vera , she's only protecting her son
Lisa didn't last long ...
I liked Lisa didn't watch corrie much then love these episodes
Which I'm grateful for.
RAQUEL GETS ON MY WICK...her voice her character I mean... I did meet her in person and is very pleasant but her character but her moaning and groaning good actress though!! Do love Rita when she berates Mavis.
She was a bit bland. Seemed like a plot device character rather than a character in her own right.
In footballing terms Mike and Ken are Rangers and celtic. Ken being celtic as he's OBSESSED with Mike. This post should be interesting as time goes on 😂
Not mention being obsessed with singing about the IRA etc. despicable bunch!
Pathetic. What a ridiculous comment
Was Tommy’s grandma Norris Cole’s wife in later episodes?
No, different actress
Liz Dawn was very lucky to get Corrie cos she’s sure as hell a terrible actress ..🤷🏼♂️🤔
Every month I seem to dislike Sally more...
Mikes new lady. Is way too old for the part.