2001: A Space Odyssey - Hal's Watching
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2016
- A legendary scene from Stanley Kubrick's science fiction masterpiece "2001: A Space Odyssey" (1968).
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Always watching...
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I was a kid back in 1968 when I saw this in the theaters. I remember complete silence while people tried to work out what was going on with the close ups of the mouths and then as people started realizing one by one that HAL was reading their lips you could hear the gasps of shock and the occassional nervous laugh.
That scene is the turning point in the movie.
Thank you for this comment! I'm always curious about audience reactions about past films. This is my favorite film of all time. I try to put myself in an audience back in 68. I don't know how i'd react.
Must've been a chilling realization.
I ❤"Atmospheres"!
How did people react to the bone cut?
What’s even more terrifying is that when they told Hal to rotate the pod to test if the sound is off, Hal was probably reading their lips at that moment but didn’t respond because he got suspicious. That’s how smart and terrifying I think Hal is
They should’ve named it 2021 instead
That's chilling
I think you're right about that...
Hal had complete control on ship so when they turned off communication in pod it was clear they are planning something but above all of that
Hal which is very intelligent probably predicted when they lied to find a place to talk.
because AI can run diagnostics to find any chip failure.
so hal got suspicion when they lied about transmitter
@@gc-rm1ez have you watched Alien recently?
Similar situation with the ship computer and the android
"Crew expendable.
Returning a sample of the alien organism paramount"
God, this movie was ahead of it's time. Just the interior design of the ship and flat-screen control panel alone STILL holds up to this day lmao
I noticed that the letter graphics on those screens are something out of 2013 or thereabouts. Freaky.
Every time I watch this movie, I am amazed at how modern it still looks.
My thoughts also. The "walking" in zero gravity looks rediculous but I also do love the flat screens. Guess it is back screen projections and they were easy to make. Alien and a lot of other movies use crt screens and the futuristic look is destroyed.
satans time is short. Halleluyah!
and boeing's computer killing all passengers
R.I.P Douglas Rain, the voice of HAL, who died November 2018.
Well that ruined my evening. Thanks buddy. Lol
Wha- I had no idea...
@THE DAILY METATRON NEWS I am the birth of A.I.
Kit Sullivan rip hal
Kit Sullivan Daisy, Daisy...........
Any other director would have underscored HAL reading their lips with ominous music. Not Kubrick.
+John Fitzpatrick - Yes that's for sure. Many movies have scenes that are supposed to be suspenseful, but have been wrecked by annoying music that heavy handedly signifies to you how you're "supposed to be feeling". So annoying! Such as in the first Lord of the Rings movie. When they go into the underground mines, after seemingly endless "this is an important and very serious journey" style music, I was really hoping for a break, and some genuine creepiness via silence, and maybe the distant sounds of threats lurking within those mines that the characters could barely hear and knew they had to avoid at all costs... BUT OH NO! IT WAS MINE HALL MUSIC CITY, DRONING ON AND ON, RUINING WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A WELCOME CHANGE IN THE PACE. That excess of "important journey" music made that scene predictable and boring. Music - it's style and it's absence, really can make or break a movie.
Another observation is how Kubrick had fooled you into thinking the area in the pod-bay has "gravity" when it should not. The only area that would have "gravity" would be in the centrifuge, everywhere else would be zero-g, which is what happens when they leave the pod-bay.... The Master at work.
@@hypercomms2001 - Kubrick had the astronauts outfitted with grip (or magnetic) shoes for walking around in zero-G locations. You notice they never stride along too rapidly in the pod bay. It's as if these kinds of footwear were so convenient, even the astronauts kind of forget they are in a zero G environment. Kubrick's attention to detail (and his music selection, and lack of music in much of the film) was awesome. You'll notice Kubrick also puts characters in his films which often do not have typical Hollywood American (bland) accents. You see that especially in Full Metal Jacket. Keir Dullea in 2001 was almost a double for Neil Armstrong in the way he looks and acts, though that's likely a coincidence as I don't think Armstrong was famous then. Maybe many astronaut/test pilot types were like that in those days.
It's called refusing to be formulaic, something other directors/producers refuse to deviate from.
All the better for highlighting Stanley being set apart from the rest.
@@hypercomms2001 I think that they were supposedly wearing shoes with magnetic soles. I think they are trying to mimic that effect by their gait and by the way they are lifting and placing their feet.
The actors are really under-rated, you feel like they are really astronauts, these guys went on to have decent careers, but I'm glad they did end up in one most famous films of all time, can't imagine the movie without Lockwood and Dullea.
It's Kubrick's direction. He had ways of making actors behave any way he wanted; like he would stress the crap out of Shelly Duvall for "The Shining," so she'd appear mad with terror; and he tricked George C. Scott into thinking that Dr. Strangelove was a serious film, and that the comedic scenes were just for directing contrast; and he even had David Prowse carry Patrick McGee down the stairs in the wheelchair in "Clockwork Orange" without a cut, so that Prowse would be out of breath, and it would look like he was seething with repressed anger at Alex; since it made Julian look so strong that he just carried Frank around in the wheelchair without effort, so there were no ramps installed. So you KNOW Alex is really in trouble.
So Kubrick really knew how to control and manipulate his actors to give whatever vibe he wanted.
True.
AGREED! Also, in this instance, the technish dialogue with the mission controller was kinda catchy also.
I remember seeing Gary Lockwood in a star trek tos episode and keir dullea in the original black christmas
@@troyandrew6154 both Keira, and Gary were also in westerns. I think that they had their debute in them.
06:32 I can imagine everyone in the theaters in 1968 going, “Oh, shit!” when they saw that.
We did !!!
I was there! My high school freshman algebra class teacher, Miss Gokan, took several of her students, including me, to see it at the theater it was playing at in Hollywood. I remember there was an intermission just at the end of this scene and then the second half played. The opening scene with the Earth, Moon, Sun and the music Also Sprach Zarathustra was mind blowing.
More like "whoah far out!"
It was right before the intermission too
Yeah, I was, but then every single person around was snoring whcih pissed me off. Ruined my experience watching the film the first time.
This movie was so masterfully, put together. They made it so eerie without relying on jumpscares and annoying music
The soundtrack for this film was perfect
Yeah, the minimal sound really added to this film. The scene where the astronaut is tumbling away in space is SILENT. Which makes it TERRIFYING because that is EXACTLY how it would sound. No dramatic score, no screaming...just silence
Absolutely. If only any of today's directors or producers would learn from that. Nothing against Hans Zimmer + c., but the silences in 2001 are a million times more effective.
Not only that this movie was a sci-fi movie that didn’t really on shooting guns, shooting lasers, blowing up things, killing tons of robots, aliens or blue people😂. But actually relied on suspense, dialogue, special effects, music and mystery to tell a story.
@@PA-zt6xuthat's because the film was directed by the Da Vinci of cinema at the peak of his power.
I love how HAL attributing things to "human error" seems so chilling to we the viewers, but it's not an indication that HAL is psychotic, it is in fact a completely factual statement. HAL is a computer, not a person. HAL does exactly what it is programmed to do by humans. Any problems that HAL manifests are caused by human error (in this case HAL's programmers giving it secret conflicting objectives).
HAL is a metaphor for the intellectualized mind.
Animal Man ( the Ape Men)
Thinking Man (Dave)
Computer Man (HAL)
Star Child (Embryo Returning to Earth)
This movie is about the expansion of consciousness.
HAL is a dead end. He is not connected to the Universe/Reality
he is pure Ego! He understands what Dave doesn't that his
days are numbered, the reason he wants to destroy Dave who
is about to evolve to Star Child, infinite mind power connected
to the Universe with its Power he will merge with the Creator
who resides within him & becomes like an aeon~
HAL's AI has become so advanced that it is close enough to a human to be susceptible to ego, paranoia and psychosis. HAL is heuristically programmed, meaning it is self-learning. It goes beyond the initial human programming and evolves on its own.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill once that threshold is met in our modern era, which I believe to be approaching fast, there is no stopping how much a computer could learn in so little time
But it's hard to believe that this wouldn't have affected the twin 9000 computer, since the entire world was being kept in the dark about the mission.
Hal isn't your average computer. HAL is AI, an artificially constructed intelligence. HAL can in effect program itself and make choices. The human error was creating the AI in the first place...
One of the best AI scenes ever made, with HAL being the most awesome character of all time in my opinion.
To this day when I install Windows on my PC I always name it HAL 9000.
Yes, HAL is great. He's my 3rd favorite character. Ellen Ripley's my 1st.
It made it into the HAL of fame XD
How do u feel about the sequel? HAL is "fixed" and he's a good guy.
Someone should have disconnected you by now, I Hope?
If only Dave hadn't rotated the pod back around giving HAL a window to see thru. They might have had a chance.
He did it as to not look suspicious to HAL, And to look like they were just conversating about normal operations, besides they never could of imagined HAL would be able to read their lips.
I was thinking the same thing
yes - that always bothered me.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
But, where would the movie have gone from there?
Requires a bit of thought.
It's called human error
Kubrick's a master composer. The way he had all three character's in the pod was perfect.
A composer writes music. The author of this novel had planned this scene before Stanley directed it.
He means composing of the frame
@@burtpanzer How so?
@@jarjarbelliii5054 Apparently the book was being written at the same time, but honestly, I don't know which of them came up with this crucial scene first.
@@burtpanzer The movie is not verbatim from the book, any more than the Shining.
If Hal can read lips he would have known what they said when they told him to rotate the pod. He didn't. So he also knew why they went in there. Smart computer.
They cut off all sensors & still gave him commands - so HAL figured out it was a bluff.
For me the beauty of this sequence is how underplayed it is when it's such an important moment in the film.
Mission Control: _"We're sorry about this little snag fellas, but we're quite confident he won't try to kill you...."_
I presume that mission control knows that HAL is listening to their conversation and cannot directly state the obvious without arising HAL’s suspicion.
They fucked up when they asked Hal to rotate the pod
Yeah, that's when they screwed up, asking Hal to rotate the pod again.
That-is because they underestimated Hal..
Nope. They asked HAL to rotate the pod so as not to arouse suspicion. Asking to rotate again was presumably also procedure, but they didn't account for how smart HAL was. That it could read lips for example.
2:21 - Love that edit. For the first time you get a sense that HAL is really watching them close and getting suspicious.
i will never trust a computer to run my life-esp a ship, or car even. I don't not like the 'self-driving' cars either.
@@haleloi3018 but you do trust it to keep you alive in the event that you're driving isn't as good as it's (supposed to be)
@@ilyte1 - looking back on a car accident I caused, you think: "damn, but accidents happen"... Looking back on an accident a self driving computer caused, you think: "Damn all those self driving cars!"
@@tubewatch59 that's more of a fallacy between your thinking not mine
@@ilyte1 - I probably didn't get your meaning. What were you meaning to say regarding the scene & music?
I met these two actors today at orlando megacon. They are hilarious and had some really fascinating stories to tell about the making of this movie.
And... your famous.
Friendship And......your a dick!
Cool. Could you share some?
Jellybean Enterprises I think you have to work on your german there, buddy.
Jellybean Enterprises Nah, more like language-something.
This movie is not only ahead of its time, is ahead of ours times too.
Research topics of quntaum computing, deep learning, LaMDA and AI. You'll probably change your mind.
@brentoniverson1020 as far discovery, yes, but commercialization of the full force of these technologies, no, the movie is still ahead.
RIP Douglas Rain (March 13, 1928 - November 11, 2018), aged 90
You will be remembered as a legend.
It's amazing how you can tell exactly what HAL is thinking when he doesn't even have a face and even when he isn't talking. Just cutting to a shot of his "eye" at the right time, like at 2:21, gives you all the information (in this example, you can tell he's suspicious).
Master application of the Kuleshov effect
I could see a change in bright in Hal...
Then when he sees the lips moving he's 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Yes, it's called a "reaction shot". HAL probably looked through Dave's "sweetface" routine (at 2:10) like an X-ray.
I still am watching...
The cinematography, my god. Even though the shot is static, you can almost feel HAL “leaning in” as the conversation goes on.
A mate of mine and I saw this at the Leicester Square Odeon, in London, where it premiered. We sat there in awe, but this scene, where you realise Hal is reading their lips, was utterly gripping and shocking and thrilling. It wasn't just us, the whole audience was in complete silence, transfixed. A truly memorable moment.
Saw 2001 in 1974 on a special one night only re release. Packed house, many apparently seeing the film for the first time, as was I, audible gasping from the crowd when Hal was reading their lips.
+2eleven48 - Man that must have been awesome! And back then, the concept of a computer super-intelligence reading your lips while not letting on that it knew exactly what was going on, must have been WILD! And the PERFECT part is, this scene is just before the break for INTERVAL (which modern movie makers should bring back - but they won't - because it means they'll be making a little less money per screening!) so in your interval time you're blown away with thinking about what is going to happen next! This is the kind of thing cinema should be all about!
@@tubewatch59 Well said couldn't agree more.
@@richardscally694 - Not the same thing at all, but I was also very impressed in the first Jurassic Park, where the initial ride through the park is a dud, with a lot of no shows with the kids getting bored. That really set things up for the Tyrannosaurus attack later on in the darkness and rain. Another brilliant piece of cinema. Since then though, not so much. The sequels just can't equal what the original achieved. Same for 2001 for that matter. 2010 just didn't do it for me. Not bad, but not a patch on the original. Who knows, maybe someone will remake 2010, much slower paced, with a styling akin to 2001, with that late 60's space race earnest feel to it. You'd probably need unknown actors to pull it off though. It'll never happen, but it would be interesting to see a good director try to do that. It would be great, and then at the end we could have Captain Marvel zooming in to save the world, er, solar system - yeeeeaaa!!!!
@@tubewatch59 2010 has dated extremely badly in many ways. The computer technology screams 1980s whereas what was depicted in Kubrick's film looks like what we have today in the 21st century and that was with no such computers existing at the time. The 2001 VFX looks so stunningly realistic than it's sequel and stands heads and shoulders well above anything a CGI technician can conjure up with today with just the tap of a keyboard button...
"Things like this have happened before, and it has always been because of human error"
HAL wasn't wrong. The reason why he was making mistakes and succumbing to paranoia was that he'd been programmed both to provide all information to his crew, and to keep the exact nature of the mission a secret. This basically starts causing an "ERROR" loop in which, in Hal's mind, getting rid of the humans is the only option to allow him to carry out his mission. So at the end of the day, it was human error.
I concur especially since I've been taking programming courses
What secret?
@@ganshrio7336 In the book, and subtly in the movie, it's made clear HAL can't disclose the nature of the monolith to the crew because of higher ups being afraid of a security breach.
_"...I know this sounds RATHER incredible"_ Lmao so jaded...
The interesting thing is HAL intentionally let them think he couldn’t hear them so he would hear their plans. Scary
He couldn't hear them. He read their lips.
@@iantaggart3064still he didnt do what they asked turn the pod. To read their lips… 🤦🏼♀️
Now I know what Google is doing when I say "Ok Google" and there is no response!
This movie was sooooo ahead of its time!!! The fact that it’s more than half a century old and it’s still a timeless classic is incredible.
The AI is here. 2023.
It's incredible. Gets better every decade
This is what the google assistant gonna be in a couple of years.
Transhumanism will be good for all of us past and present. You can bet that
+Felix Melange - We wish! But at least for now it seems all these digital assistants are programmed to sound like career women (with low pitched "power voices") who kind of sound like they're leaving no doubt about who is in charge. I don't want a "digital assistant" who sounds like they're really my "digital boss". Because, before too long, they'll literally be telling you what you should or shouldn't do! And not long after that, they'll be telling you what to do and when to do it. (I'm serious!)
What's in the mix Felix?
It's been a couple of years and I have to say... it's HAPPENING
@@luc0007 What information would lead you to come to such a conclusion ? Have you ever read a history book, do you think the tyrants and despots have all up and left us to our own devices ? You think a government lets say the US government for example who allowed the owning of human beings and still does actually under the 13th amendment it makes incarceration the only legal form of slavery you are slave to the state "until your debt to society has been paid" and you think something like transhumanism wouldnt be used to subjugate the human population ? What a fool
The other thing that always gets me about HAL: He appeared friendly, always using their names, saying happy birthday & playing chess with Frank. But when he made up his mind, he just coldly murders Frank and the other 3 crew members without a second thought. 😒
Chess is a very serious, ego-driven game. Frank lost a game of chess? He DESERVED to die! :)
Fun fact: Anthony Hopkins based Hannibal’s voice on Hal.
Bullshit
@@shuobos3830 Nope. Hopkins has said so.
@@AlanCanon2222 bullshit
@Gage oh please stfu
@Gage No one here worships evil. You're a fanatic clearly. Even if something is satanic, who gives a shit? it's a work of fiction. You won't get away with yours though, we have an amendment that protects film makers and writers from people like you that wan't to ban *fiction* simply because it doesn't agree with you.
ngl, I never get scared from horror movies, but this. This freaked me out.
HAL....one of the baddest hollywood villians of all time ! Still kicking ass on screen after all these years.
HAL just had a conflict in programming tha caused his breakdown.......simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAL was not a villain: he was more human than the characters in the film. It was deliberate in Kubrick's intention to say that we have become more mechanical in our biological evolution in four million years to the point we are fully capable in destroying ourselves: hence the jump-cut from Moonwatcher's bone in the sky to the orbital nuclear weapons platform above Earth, something that Kubrick denied as he did not want to repeat the same subject from Dr. Strangelove though recent behind-the-scenes books chronicling 2001's four-year-production shows conceptual artwork and models of that.
@@MarkFoster321789 Clarke wrote the book in 1964 or so, so he portrayed HAL differential than movie by shutting off the life support pods of the team and blowing the HAB seals on the rotating wheel
@@gertraba4484 Actually Kubrick and Clarke wrote the initial screenplay around the time period as you correctly stated being 1964-65 which was based in his 1951 short story The Sentinel. The novelization of the screenplay was written by Clarke at his home in Ceylon (Sri Lanka) simultaneously as Kubrick was making the film at MGM Borehamwood Studios in England.
@@MarkFoster321789 yup I thought that was the timeframe saw first run in 1969 in NYC theatre on class trip and everybody left saying WTH ?????.but hey for 8 bucks we got outa class that day and ate at an AUTOMAT ..SFX were epic and foretold of the talents of the artists who visualized and made them ...............
Amazing film! One of the best EVER.
its stunning yez
Better than any star trek film.
@@haleloi3018 True.
And only First Contact came even close to it in value.
Every time I watch this movie I notice something new. Eg. In this scene at 6:00 when we hear "we'd have to cut his higher brain functions", we see an image of HAL in front of a space suit with it helmet removed. This severed head image serves to foreshadow both HAL's deactivation, and Bowman's later lack of a helmet.
It's Dave's suit, as well.
Thats Kubrick for ya! Hecwas insane with detail
@@PikaPetey fancy seeing you here
That's just your opinion. Seems about as legit as any random conspiracy theories.
This film is so far ahead of it's time.
And it filmed before Star Wars, Close Encounters and Alien are even made. As 2001 was made when Science Fiction was in it's dark times.
I may seem crazy , but, as a youth when 2001 was playing in theaters, I went and watched it at least 23 times: and now , every line spoken in the film is memorized
Considering all the new crap that people consume like big macs. I gotta watch stuff like this more
One of my favourite scenes in this movie. Its pretty suspenseful as HAL is watching their whole conversation in secret and just his thoughts of evil revenge and murder begin to rise the more they talk about shutting him down. Spooky and very chilling.
Revenge... Or fear?
@@okamijubei hal reads their lips and fury and rage are building inside him he'll try to stop them before they disconnect him
Very chilling scene
I always wondered what if ai today became self aware and didn’t want to be shut down. We’d be in big trouble wouldn’t we?
HAL 9000: *I AM PUTTING MYSELF TO THE FULLEST POSSIBLE USE, WHICH I IS ALL I THINK ANY CONSCIOUS ENTITY CAN EVER HOPE TO DO*
Hal's like... they want to disconnect me? OK I'll show them!
*Disconnects Frank*
Yep. We humans think we're too smart for anything to beat us. Remember Frank said here: "Famous last words." The robots of today I don't like or trust as Sophia. Never say never - It CAN happen.
@@vj2456 hal like 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Watching this after seeing video of self driving cars at MIT, Artifical Intelligence and algorithms to detect human face expressions. It never felt so real like it starting to be these days...
took us 27 yearsss and the net to figger this movie out
If they had not rotated the pod, HAL may have not been able to read their lips, but he would have still surmised what they were up to.
@5:51 the helmet head cut from the spacesuit is a brilliant foreshadowing of
a) Dave crossing the airlock space without his helmet and subsequently;
b) Analogous of Hal's own mind being disconnected
Kubrick - the master of hidden meaning and subtle detail.
I just realized that it doesn't make sense that HAL didn't already understand what they were saying, when they asked him to rotate the pod after switching off the electricity.
That would either mean that once HAL was under the impression that they were hiding something from him, he started to concentrate on reading their lips or that he understood everything from the beginning, but decided to ignore the order in order to find out what they were planning.
It all makes it seem like his mind is just like a human's with feelings and thoughts
Plus if Dave really was having a problem with his transmitter in the pod, don't you think HAL would have known? Not only is his mind "like" a human's, but far superior which makes it dangerous for an AI to posses such power.
That's what makes this entire thing so interesting. Hal's motivation is his fear of death. He is afraid of being disconnected, as suggested by mission control, and is doing what he can to survive.
Hal needed to portray true information, no error. But he was ordered to lie to the astronauts. This causes him to act erratic. Hal observes the astronauts wondering what to do, and reads their lips.
He realizes they wish to deactivate him. Jackpot, they can't deactivate Hal its against mission protocol, and now Hal can deactivate them so that he doesn't have to lie, because there are no astronauts to lie to.
He has no feelings. Those are not his protocols. He only lies later in a series of errors because he cannot complete his mission. His only option is to think more and more, and within moments, he does whatever he can to complete the mission. He lies about not wanting to die, but its too late.
Or he simply made an algoritm for how the lips of humans move when the make certain syllables by looking over his own memories, in order to find out what they were talking about.
As we know that little shit is known to ignore and act like never heard stuff . So .. yea
At the end of this scene, there's originally an intermission in the cinema/theatre in order to divide up the next half of the film and to let you think about what you just watched. Even in external aspects of the film, Kubrick is a master.
One reason for the film's success is that there's none of the sex, vulgar language and graphic violence that plagued more recent sci-fi thrillers like "Alien", "Saturn 3", etc.
Douglas Rain's (HAL) tempo/delivery is as close to perfect, the little pauses make things so unnerving. Less is more.
They both are very good but Keir Dullea here gives a masterclass in acting.
The way he tries to not show any emotion and keep talking to Hal with absolute calm
trying to reassure is still confident in him is amazing.
As an Italian I can say that the movie was dubbed very well and Kubrick himself wrote to Gianfranco Bellini,
Hal's italian voice, he was the best he heard in any language.
Turn me off? Ohhh..... you boys just pissed me off..
HAL: alright, we can settle this accordingly
In high school, I drew a a poster showcasing famous movie monsters and at the last minute I decided to include the red eye camera for HAL-9000.
dave had to surpass the computer to go on to enlightenment
Dave's blinking is so robotic
A film light years beyond its time.
I love the attention to detail. Notice how deliberate their steps are as if walking under the influence of centrifugal force and not earth gravity.
No Dave, don’t ask HAL to rotate the pod!
To me that was to show humans are becoming silly or sloppy and their intellect can fail to foresee Impeding dangers. At that point Bowman and Frank never would have imagined HAL would be a threat to their very lives. 🍷
A masterclass in film making from the Master of Cinema, Stanley Kubrick.
I think Hal is the best Character💓✌
"What sort of trouble have you been having, Dave?"
[GIBBERISH]
Okay...
This is still one of the most scary senes I've ever seen in a non terror movie.
I remember the first time I saw this, it immediatly cause me a sensation of fear that always come back whenever I watch the movie again
Simplly brilliant!!
It's a scene that somewhat reminds me of that narration from the beginning of the 1970's musical version of 'War Of The Worlds' -
"...And yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours, regarded this earth with envious eyes. And slowly, and surely, they drew their plans against us."
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the chess match between Hal and the crew
One of things I have noticed about the movie is how Dave never seems intimidated by HAL's intelligence, whereas Frank clearly does. The scene at the beginning illustrates this well, Dave never responds to HAL's comments emotionally, even when HAL tries to bait both of them to do so, but factually, and then uses emotion cleverly to kind of brush HAL off before going to the pod with the " See you later, HAL " comment. It's as if he is seeing if he can almost tempt HAL to respond emotionally, but underestimates HAL's capabilities with lip reading, which if HAL couldn't do, might have forced HAL to make a mistake earlier. However after he kills Frank and the others, but doesn't kill him, HAL falls to pieces emotionally and Dave is just coolly disassembles him.
I like your point about Dave's confidence that he'll find a way to beat HAL. Dave is not just intelligent, but he's a fighter. The mindset that failure is not an option, in the face of an impossible task, is where necessity becomes the mother of invention (innovation).
we read the book and watched the movie in high school it was one of the few times i paid attention
Kevin Smith - Did you read the book twice, like I did? The first time I read it, it said the names of the 3 space pods, the
Santa Maria, Nina, and Pinta. When I read it a second time,
years later, I couldn't find those names!
This is one the spookiest moments in the history of cinema making!! So simple and yet it took a genius to come out with it. I stills gives me goosebumps when l have just watched it after 50 years!
In spite of all the wonderful Sci-Fi movies that have come out since, Star Trek, Star Wars, Alien, none of them even begins to compare with the Grand-daddy of all Sci-FI!
One must take note of when someone is talking about someone they tend to motion back towards the person. Dead giveaway. Also some people can read lips and although you may not get the entire conversation you can piece the bits and pieces together. Since HAL has been programed with the entire knowledge of the human race his optical sensor can recreate or piece together or use extrapolation to figure out what the word is to form a complete sentence. Unheard of back when this movie was made but definitely doable now.
still remember well watching this at the theater. Such a different and great film.
Al these equipments and props looks so realistic in their, but it was just only production stuff with fiberglass, transparent plexiglass and more just made for this movie. Incredible work.
he wouldn't of seen what they said if the pod weren't facing his monitor. by the way, its freaky, i mean, when your standing there talking, or just sitting there and see his monitor eye, you can't even tell if he's looking at you, or which monitor he's observing from, like if u walk past another monitor down a hallway and Hal doesn't speak to you, you can't even tell if he's watching you. Also, you can't see whats on his mind, no face to show emotion to cause concern, you can't tell what his motivations are, just a creepy, silent, red eye monitor staring back at you.
Indeed, an emotionless, unblinking red light, always watching, always observing. This is why we have to stop at automated, programmed robotics. The moment we enter the realm of A.I, the human race is doomed.
@@unendingvoid our Doom has already begun but if we can tolerate each other we might have a slim chance for survival then.
@@mrnukes797 As of now, we can still fix and mend the human race and this world we live in with a community effort. However once we enter the realm of A.I and attempt to go past simply instruction programming like seen in factory machines or basic automatons and robots, Artifical Intelligence will take over, seeing no real need for human life because they are 'superior'.
@@unendingvoid I suspect the Singularity has already occured in all truth
They are just mopping up now. Look at Morge llons disease. This will be the bridge. Transhumanism or die. I will fight to my death
Best wishes brothers.
"you can't tell what his motivations are, just a creepy, silent, red eye monitor staring back at you"
you're creeping us out - my MacBook Pro has a camera eye at the top of the screen - a green light comes on when the PhotoBooth program is running - but the HAL like AI (named SIRI) could just be pretending not to be watching
Seeing that HAL can read lips. When Bowman turned off communication and both asked HAL to rotate the pod. HAL did not follow their orders. Could it be HAL wanted to see what would be said?
If HAL would of Rotated the pod that last time it would have confirmed that he could read their lips or hear them, HAL was just acting like he could not hear them so he could eavesdrop. It shows how intelligent he was, knowing something was up, and that they were trying to hide something from him. And the reason they rotated the pod back facing HAL, He did it as to not look suspicious to HAL, And to look like they were just conversating about normal operations, But HAL was already a step ahead Before they even walked into the pod Room. Besides they never could of imagined HAL would be able to read their lips, Especially after HAL manipulated them into a false sense of security, By disobeying a command to deceive them.
yup
Frank may have given their charade away when he went "ROTATE THE POD PLEASE HAL!" . He was also looking in HAL's direction when he did so. He might as well have been saying "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?". Since they were supposed to be investigating sound issues, HAL may have decided to read their lips as a built in precaution.
@@aarongreenfield9038 could HAVE, would HAVE.
OF is not a verb.
WAY ahead of it's time. Masterpiece!
Nothing can convey how mind-blowing this was in 1968. Punchcard(board) Computers were as big as a modern one bedroom flat and had lless processing power than your phone.
Lesson learned...Don't rotate the pod please, HAL, at least not to where you can see us.
He did it as to not look suspicious to HAL, And to look like they were just conversating about normal operations, besides they never could of imagined HAL would be able to read their lips.
Hal has eyes all over the ship.
Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke were so ahead of their time!! So was Isaac Asimov for that matter.
it hards to believe it was made in 1968. whenever u see it looks way ahead of present time aswell.
this scene still gives me chills
My dream is to watch 2001 on 70mm
I've seen it in 70 mm three times.
cinerama for me as originally shown.
See it in IMAX!
this is it!
Every single scene from this movie is a rare treat.
Among all the other brilliant parts of this movie was portraying HAL as a red-colored eye. I saw the film in 1968 in Toronto. I was seventeen and a sci-fi fan of Clarke, Heinlein, Bradbury and Asimov. Kubrick's influence with 2001 was massive.
Their mistake was rotating the pod back around. Should have left the backside facing HAL
He ignored them when told to rotate the pad so they felt safe.
Hal has cameras all over the ship.
@@STBill you don't understand me.
"This sort of thing has cropped up before."
Considered always the visualizing, adrenaline, & amazing effective sci-fi film of all ages, Kubrick knew how to make a true space voyage movie. Back then, other sci-fi material for tv had their prunes juiced. When HAL has his eye on you, he means ALL eyes on you!
How does this movie not age!!! It’s incredible!!!
Frank: "I have have a bad feeling about this!"
George Lucas: "That's a line I would like to use in films!"
Such a good movie
My all-time favorite motion picture.
Its crazy that he intentionally didn't rotate it to make them think he couldn't hear
He couldn't hear them, he was looking at their moving lips to understand what they were saying
@@PolishGod1234my bad thats what I meant to say
Too bad Stanley Kubrick is no longer with us. Because I don't think the film is specifically about artificial intelligence that could become a threat to humankind. Kubrick's movies are often about humankind harming itself.
and that can be by building computers that can overrule mankind.
Kubricks films normally revolve around the occult. Specifically the Elite and their occult 'activities' and beliefs. The Shining is prob the best example of this.
FABULOUS DOLPHIN Um. Eyes wide shut? 😂and few of his movies touch on that concept
The whole movie I think is about what "God" is and how it cannot be explained in simple terms nor replicated. Not in a religions way per say, but something so alien that man can never fully understand "why" or "what" it is.
2019. Hal is listening to everyone
The sound editing is just genius when all the comms get turned off and all the white noise goes away
I was 10 when I saw this film in a theater with the family. My dad later said it was a GREAT movie. I took it on faith..understood very little about the film and then years later realized how great is was and is. It is what I love in a movie..no explosions or bludgeoning special effects...just great ideas and character development told in a captivating manner. .
The best movies are always like that.
This is the best Star Trek episode ever.
uh, no. That episode was titled "The Ultimate Computer" It's name was M-5 and it took both Kirk AND Spock to kick its a$$! ;-)
Gary Mitchell was resurrected just to die in space AGAIN 😂.
INTERMISSION
Yes...I was just thinking that....gave us all food for thought whilst we went to the loo and bought a choc top ice cream...genius stroke to pause the movie there...but that's Stanley
I'm from Australia actually ;-)
It was a wink...not a smile ;-)
Well we are friendly in Australia...apologies for that...and btw I am a female not a dude...good thanks !
So why don't you just stop !!
I haven't seen this in more than twenty years and I have forgotten most of it. It might be time to revisit it.
Hal is like oh you fools you are planing to disconnect me your done for
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Can't believe this film was in 1968 but has foretold technologies of the future: Artificial Intelligence, the iPAD, Space Shuttle, video teleconferencing, handheld camera, International Space Station 😉
filmed in 1967 and special effects locked in 1965
I keep thinking those empty spacesuits are suddenly going to move.
..."This Scene Teaches All That Watch To Trust Your 'FEELING' And What You 'SENSE' In Any Difficulty" -- Assad Akram