Prodigy at Berkeley/preparation plus opportunities/Burton,Pastorias,Joni Mitchell ….and the most overlooked fact is that he never got caught up in drugs and alcohol..for a jazz musician that’s rare
Best line of the entire interview, “melody is the only one of the 3 branches of music that you can’t go to school for 4 years on.” If you’re a composer/songwriter, you should recognize how profound this concept is. The melody comes from you exclusively. You find your melody yourself.
Rick is a top quality interviewer. His enthusiasm, knowledge of the guests and ability and willingness to let them speak produces compelling viewing. There is something very captivating about watching two people in the moment in a real discussion.
Yes Please! John Scofield would be a treasure for sure. Rick, like everyone is saying, THIS is how you interview a musician. Setting the bar! Only you can do these types of interviews.
Rick is probably, BY FAR, the best prepared, technically and otherwise, knowledgeable and truly interested person to ever interview Pat. He so well knows his recording history and the various players surrounding it, that he instinctively knows the important, relevant and interesting questions to ask him. And you can tell that Pat really appreciates the opportunity and is really into the discussion. And after 40 whatever years of listening to PM, it has provided many wonderful insights. Rick is truly an unashamed fanboy for music and musicians he has a deep understanding of their genius and greatness!
I wholeheartedly agree! Back then we were a contemporary dance band only (I was the arranger/keyboard guy), so a lot of cool music escaped me as it wasn't "dance able". I'm just now discovering a lot of great music that I didn't check into then. Not all, but quite a lot.
My aunt spelled her name just like you did. It's uncommon. And I love it... She passed away in 2013 and your name just reminded me of her. Her name, Aimee Petcen (Hutchinson was her maiden name). My family has a lot names that are spelled in an uncommon way. Much love and God bless!
Rick's job is really tough on this one. He's looking at the interviewee in the eyes for almost 2 hours, nodding, smiling, and intervening sparsely, to make Pat feel comfortable and chat away. Most interviewers nowadays, especially those who are expert at the subject matter of the interview such as Rick, prefer to have a starring role in the interview, ruining the chance for the interviewee to go deeper, to be more candid and even to tell things he hasn't before in public. Rick refrains from this attitude, and that makes it all the more commendable. This is awesome interviewing.
It really is well done. The only thing that would make it better is if Pat had a guitar and played some things. But I'm sure that was his choice not to.
I have to echo a previous commenter, this is what the internet was meant for. It's what humanity is for. Thank you so much Rick for sharing this with us. I was at that Wichita jazz festival with my high school jazz when Pat played with Gary Burton. I have been an avid fan since and loaned my Pat Metheny records to many young aspiring guitar players as required studying of how to develop a melody. Thank you Pat for all you've given us. As an aside, I don't know if you are in to this musician but, I think a good subject for an interview might be Ralph Towner. He has composed and played some beautiful songs and is a music educator. His band Oregon was a lesser known component of the jazz-classical-fusion scene but an important one none the less.
You're one previliged guy @jeraldtowle for sharing your experience with Mr. Metheny. I wish I have the opportunity too just like you and the rest of the musicians. All the best.!
Pat really says a lot. He moves back and forth between topics yet keeps track of his thoughts. So he is easy to follow. A lot to be said about stayng sober and drug free as a musician. I'll bet his personality has been pretty stable over his adult life.Very interesting talk. And I am reminded that I miss Jaco.
This can't be emphasized enough. There are a lot of great musicians that can no longer speak coherently and without the drug-induced side effects like degraded motor skills, memory loss, the vacant eyes, etc.
I've been playing bass for 30+ years... Jaco is just the next level of bass player... Love um always .. think about all the wonderful bass we'd have... Its tragic but... I betcha his soul is out there somewhere loving the bass guitar...
When you do drugs, you're essentially treating yourself as a science experiment where you're the lab animal. You might get lucky once or twice, but you run horrible risks.
Drugs & alchohol keeps your prefrontal lobe from developing. So instead of being fully formed mature, informing your executive decision making at the age of 26, you may never get the coping skills and benefits of how best to take advantage of the opportunities coming your way. Life is what you make it, dont break this part of it.
Me too. Rick said in another video it was going to be posted on Monday. Woke up every morning and checked my phone. Had to wait till Thursday. Anticipation...
@@gavinw5469, such insufferable bs… you need a breath of fresh air man. Are you one of those people that tear off one of the little phone numbers on a poster at the grocery for kittens just to call and tell them you don’t want any?
“I’ve spent a lifetime trying to get to the point where I understand, so that I can, be.” That was a very meaningful statement for me to hear from Metheny.
This show is really something special and unique. I really feel like this is the ultimate platform a musician can tell his musical journey like two musicians talking . It’s not a commercially motivated sales gimmick. I hope it grows into this direction continuing from here.
@@OutOnTheTiles I was thinking the same thing! He never Interrupts him! So many interviewers just love to hear themselves talk and cut people off too soon.
Probably the best interview with a major musician I've ever heard. Rick has all the knowledge, sensitivity and self-confidence to let an extremely articulate, seminal artist just talk. When Rick does interject it's always an insightful, expert comment that lets Pat get into another fascinating line of thought. This is how it's done. ❤
...watch Rick off to the side while Pat is playing through James - he's not only in his element, but inside his head all he can hear is "Omg! I'm here! This is me! I'm on a one to one with Pat, and he's playing!" I think if Pat had turned round and said "Hey Rick, grab that guitar there and we'll jam..." he would have just passed out! 😂 Brilliant interview!
@@sonovoxx oh God, how I wish Pat would have a sort of guitar "Bob Ross" show where he'd play guitar and talk about chords(or whatever else) . I'd watch every one of them even if I didn't understand any of it (I'm just a dumb drummer who loves guitar)
Rick was the best guy for the job. He obviously worships Pat and knows his music yet he seemed completely at ease and had great questions. Pat was very talkative and I was surprised at how he talked about music in such an abstract fashion. His thoughts on melody and feel and illuminating the chords were colorfully descriptive and gave insight into his way of thinking. I especially liked when they talked about triads over bass notes. That is how I personally think about music. I was not aware that Pat writes his music on piano. Piano players think of triads over bass notes.
I am not a musician, at all; I don't understand 98% of the things you guys say, but I hope you know that the principles underlying this conversation are universal and, sadly, being forgotten. I am a playwright and an actor and I had no problem immediately applying those principles to the art I do understand. This is important stuff.
Very well put! Is universal regardless of Artform.or discipline Each to their own but 101 dislikes Just scratching my head;) Been waiting for this interview as well since coming across Rick's channel
music theory is jargon essentially to understand on a human level what is universal. thats tight that you were able to still extract the essence from it. rad
I saw Pat Metheney Group in 1998 as part of our high school jazz ensemble. Pat heard that there was a high school band in the audience and asked us to stand up, then he dedicated Minuano to us. Unreal moment.
What an honor !!!!! I too saw him in concert, one of the most talented, if not THE MOST TALENTED musicians EVER ! That is my favorite song he does…. MINUANO !!!!!!!😘
Pat Metheny has always been my FAVORITE jazz musician since I heard the first chord of Slip Away and I've been hooked on his music ever since. God be with you always 🎉
My brain just exploded. This is THE documentary with Pat Metheny I have ALWAYS hoped to listen to... This almost feels like some entity finally declassified some top secret documents and made them public after 30 years. Thank you so much for this !!!
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@@imnotsure4149 You're brain isn't too small. There's a lot of great musicians out there and if you haven't heard of one until then it's your lucky day! Beato wrote a short bio of Pat Metheny in the description if you want to check it out.
@@imnotsure4149 Nah, just think of it as the first day of the rest of your musical life. I envy that you will hear this stuff for the first time if you pursue it.
I bet... a generation from now, young musicians will tell others that the Beato interview with Metheny back in the early 20's really turned on a light for them 😉👍
These Interviews are historical artefacts of another league in times to come. Pretty sure very few of us alive can comprehend what service to the arts and to humanity Rick is doing here.
Whaaaaaat?!?!?!? I’m not even half way through and this is one of the best things I’ve ever seen. This is not a gem, this is THE GEM. Thank you, Rick, THANK YOU 🙏🏼❤️♾
We all know that Pat Metheny is a music legend, but what impressed me most was how clever he is. He's curious, sensibile and very logical. That's not only a music talent, but it's also about being very present, brilliant and knowing exactly how things work. He could have been a brilliant engineer or a top hitech manager. Well done Rick. It is an excellent insight.
I have relistened to this interview along with a number of other interviews by you. All I can say is "FINALLY!!" someone who can properly interview musicians. No questions of favorite food or how to categorize music. Only intelligent questions by a subject mater expert. You have no idea how good these interviews are. Years from now, they will be considered the gold standard of music interviews...
I’ve been a Metheny fan forever. How could I not be? Best musicians attract best musicians, like Lyle, Jaco, Nana, Toots. So grateful for your music, Pat! You’ve outdone yourself, Rick! Kudos.
Pat Matheny played in Charleston tonight. I watch this video, this afternoon. I was afraid I wouldn’t understand the music with It’s technicalities. I went anyway. I listened, I enjoyed, I absorbed, I felt. It was amazing
I'm so glad you did. I heard him here in Atlanta on the 12th of Feb., and I cried when it was over. I've been a huge fan of Pats, and I've been trying so hard to meet him, but alas, the pandemic has prevented us this time. It's so sad! I'm glad I asked my friend to pick me up after the concert. I just couldn't take Uber, and Vicki was actually glad to send her husband to pick me up, because she was super tired. I just couldn't be alone right after the show, because it's been so bad here in Atlanta. No one is safe here anymore, and the police are completely unreliable. People think they can take the law into their hands. Public transportation is virtually nonexistent, and people, (including me) don't even want to live here anymore. There is so much violence here, and too many gangs are ruling the streets! I needed that concert. I don't even watch the news, because it's just too depressing. If it weren't for my church family and Pat's music, I would have sold my house a long time ago and moved back to France if I could. I'm just glad I still have some sanity left, because it's totally out of control over here!
This is incredibly special. Pat has *never* appeared in any Jaco documentary, official or otherwise - to hear him talk so candidly (and warmly) about their early times together is such a singular, big deal. Thank you so much for what you do, Rick!!
I was so lucky to see Charlie Hayden and Pat Metheny play their “Beyond The Missouri Sky”concert. I got to say Thank You to Pat and shake his hand after the show. Unfortunately Charlie had already left but Pat stuck around to chat and sign autographs. That concert hast to be one of my most memorable and treasured moments. Those small and intimate gigs are usually the best.
@Ricardo Maffeo understatement of the year. For me as a pianist and piano teacher, I’m excited by a couple of things they said that vindicated my own views that fall outside the proverbial box. Things I’ve taught that successfully set up “aha!” moments for a few students down the road. That makes it all worth it!
Pat is 67 years old, but looks like he's in his forties! Wow, he looks good. I had the great fortune to see him in concert in Austin sometime in the mid to late 1970's. It was an amazing show to say the least.
No joke, I saw him here and immediately thought he's way younger than I'd previously thought. But 67 sounds about right. He does look like he's in his 40s. Wild.
100 years from now, this interview will be referenced by musicians and students of music for about 1000 different reasons. Thank you, Rick, and thank you, Pat.
Only if the musicians spoken about are described formally. Given names abound, but no surnames are provided - nor are personal details given. I've read a lot about the musicians Metheny was involved with, so I'm catching the historical development of his collaborators from information that's aside from this interview. A hundred years from now students of Metheny, Mays and Pastorius will need and want context in which to place this discussion about their music. Non-musos even more so because much of the technical info will be very difficult to understand - so listening to their recordings will be essential for them to get a feel for what's going on.
@@rk41gator Cannot abide sycophantic interviews like this where the interviewer acts like a fifteen year old schoolgirl who's in with the in-crowd. Had I not known who they were talking about I'd have been looking for a muso called "Jocko". That's how the subtitling interpreted it.
@@Gerhold102 To each his own and of course you are entitled to be 'disappointed' with the interview. But I do not see it as fawning. After the intro I felt that they were mutually appreciating the jazz musicians who preceded them both while discussing 'modern' developments. I am not a big fan of Pat's approach/sound yet can see the depth of his understanding and musical concepts. But it is more fun to troll.
I used to teach journalism and had a unit on how to prepare for an interview. After watching this, I believe Rick has been preparing his entire life to interview Pat!
Yup! He mentioned in a stream after the Sting interview that he doesn't prepare much for these, and all his knowledge is simply what he has already learned over the years as a fan and student of the music. He said he wants it to flow naturally, like an improvisation.
"I've spent a lifetime trying to get to the point where I understand, so that I can be." In all seriousness my favorite quote from the interview and encouraging to hear as an aspiring guitarist. Pat exudes joy and the smile that never leaves Rick's face put a smile on mine. This is what it looks like when you meet one of your heroes :)
My nickname is truthskr truth seeker. I don't know how a guy from the NYC housing projects was introduced to honest artists like Guru Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, and Guru Pat Methney.... I vibrate different from many I grew up with. I have been and will forever seek "Me"
If only we had tape recorders during the Baroque period. Bach was known as an unbelievable improvisor (as were pretty much all the greatest composers, think Beethoven). He was based in Germany and he would meet up with other contemporary musicians/composers such as - for one example - Sylvius Leopold Weiss (a lutist, who, at the time was based out of Italy) and would have 'jam sessions', improvising on theme and variations and styles of the period. Musically speaking, it's the same damn thing as the communication and play that happens in jazz. It has been written - regarding Bach/Weiss - that observers couldn't say who was the better improvisor. But, as, I think, Pat speaks about in this interview, does that matter?
I love the way Rick simply allows his guests to speak and develop their ideas. It happened on all Satch, Vai, Lukather, Frampton and now Metheny interviews. Awesome!
This interview with Pat together with the Julian Lage and Keith Jarrett interviews qualify you, Rick, to be nothing less than a national treasure. All praise for being such a brilliant listener.
Yes. Rick allows the interview to be about the subject. Seems people he interviews have no problem understanding that the interview is going to be a great one. Rick brings that out with his confident insight and knowledge. Well done .! Pat was great with the Metropole Orchest....With Anna Jopek....and his music is very well recieved worldwide .
Rick, I don't think I've ever listened to - or read - an interview with a musician that I admire that has had the impact on me that this interview has. Your depth of knowledge and interview style perfectly complement Metheny's thinking and how he articulates his perspectives and experiences. Your ability to call out specific tunes and records gave such depth to the discussion - and it was just fun to watch and listen. I'm a bassist - and one of the first deep "woodshed" things I did was learn a couple of Mark Egan's solos off of the "white" album. At 62, I can't remember things from a month ago sometimes - but I can still remember those solos! Congrats on a simply marvelous job.
Rick is one of the absolute best interviewers period: 1) A perfect gentleman; 2) Insightful, interesting questioning; 3) He LISTENS (he's totally secure with who he is as a person, not feeling the need to interrupt/talk, etc.). I love this channel. I can't imagine the amount of work it is to maintain this level of a channel. What a gift.
Yes! I just heard Pat in concert this evening and still didn't get to meet him, and I've been trying for 42 years! Yes, I cried! His music has been a sort of lifeline for me, especially during some of the most difficult struggles with chronic, debilitating pain throughout much of my life. When he was honored by the Society for Neuroscience in 2018, I cried happy tears, because his music has helped me become more capable of dealing with it. In fact, just before being put under anesthesia in 2009 when I had a 3-hour operation on my brain to remove a Venus malformation and a piece of bone which had been thrust into the brain when I was seven, I asked my care team if they could play "Slip Away" before they put me under. Not only did they, they also played it as I went under. I've suffered through nearly 48 years of Bilateral, Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia. There were many times I'd pass out from it. Two hospitals, 3 neurologists and a neurophysicist all said that I had the worst case they'd ever seen. It took 30 years just to finally be diagnosed. Finally, in 2020, I started acupuncture, and in 2021, I started Infarred Laser therapy and have my own Laser Pen now to use when it flares up. Even after that surgery, I still suffered for several years until i started receiving Botox, and now I'm off the opioids! No more Gabapantin or Lyrica! It's just Cymbalta and Baclofen, and I can't believe how good it feels to sing! I want to sing "The First Circle" so much, because it's my favorite song of all time. Dr. Pat Metheny's music has been a salve for the soul, an elixir for the mind and a fundamental source of encouragement and hope for my complex PTSD. I've got to meet him and tell him, but I keep missing him, and I've been trying for 42 years. I also sing with two choirs in the Orthodox Christian Church, and I love it when he talks about being on the bandstand, because it's church to me, too.
I bought American Garage when it first came out. I was stunned at the beauty of that record and have been a fan ever since. I was so sad to learn that Lyle Mays had past away. The music he and Pat made was pure genius. I’m so glad I was able to see the band on the tour for American Garage.
In about 1995, I was getting my G3 Mac repaired in Tarzana CA and the guy next to me was also getting his G3 repaired (Apple's buggiest Mac). He was very, very thin and had a genuine, kind smile. I saw him sign the repair slip... Lyle Mays. To this day, I regret not saying anything.
Pat Metheny is the musician’s musician. In my opinion the most technically astute guitar player keeping a perfect balance between technical and emotional offering
I love the way Pat interviews. He doesn’t speak egocentric focused. Never gloating about his accomplishments. It’s as if he sees himself as secondary or incidental to the music, musicians and music related experiences he has had and are simply floating around in the ethos and he’s just doing his best to draw from it and breath life into these stories and recollections to share with us, what these musical things are.
Pat has been a beautifully significant part of my life since the late 70s. Yet I've never heard him really talk music. Until this. An absolute JOY this conversation is!
Pat is a little scarry to me. It takes someone prepared and knowledgable like Rick to honor Pat's work and to really pick his brains and get the answers. Thank you for this interview.
Another great interview! "The drummer is the leader of every band" This is a quote from one of the most acomplished Guitarist of all time. Going to see him tonight!
Holy sh*t. I am a 60-year-old music fanatic and I have listened to and loved Pat Metheny's music for literally decades. Thank you Rick for bringing legends like Pat into the "here and now" zeitgeist. I also think that I may deserve a few + Internets for the use of "zeitgeist" in a relevant sentence. At any rate, this is an instant classic interview.
We got him boys. Finally! Almost two hours of interview, well worth the wait. Edit After watching the entire video you can understand why he's still ahead of everyone. This is the ultimate interview.
Rick is one of the most knowledgeable, respected and enthused music experts and educators (and an excellent guitarist) in Social Media land. Pat Metheny is one of the greatest guitarists, and one of the most musically intelligent players, on the planet. Put the two together and you’re guaranteed one of the most informative, detailed, highly insightful, enlightening and ridiculously relaxed interviews you’re likely to hear or see. Those of us not in 'the profession' but who attempt to chat to the more serious musician/ artist on a more cerebral and musical level can only dream of aspiring to this expertise of interview and interviewer knowledge, in the company of a true genius of his art. Outstanding Interview.
24:30, "'the drummer is the leader of every band "'. I like it when Pat says this. Not many people know this, and in general the drummer is not seen as an important or intelligent member of the band. But of course they are.
Wowowowowow!!!!! Been a Pat fan since I first heard the solo on 'Are you going with me' from Travels. I was 13 years old. On a family holiday in the Welsh mountains... I spent 4 days in the front of the camper we hired just listening to this solo over and over again.... till my Dad got so pissed with me. He wanted to know why I wasn't enjoying nature outside. I remember being so angry and telling him that nature was made better by what was in my ears and he should listen!! To this day not sure he understood.... but that tune and solo still make me cry!
That has always been a very moving piece of music for me too! The live version on Travels especially, although I love the studio version on Offramp too.
I saw the Sting interview a couple days before I got to this one, and that one was pretty interesting, but this was next level. I think I might go so far to say this is the best jazz talk/interview I've ever listened to, and I've listened to a LOT of them.
A Rick Beato interview always turns into a few minutes of listening to the interview, then opening spotify to listen to the interesting music they are talking about, then back to the interview, then spotify. I think this one took me at least 4 lovely hours to get through! Thanks to Rick and Pat for doing this!
"I've spent a lifetime trying to get the point where I understand, so that I can be." "Ok, the stuff that I can't do, that's what I want to work on." Rick, thank you for introducing this guy to me. What a genius.
Pat's concerts have a way of changing a person's entire conception of what music can be. His mindset has always fascinated me; to be so laser focused on all things music with no letup. I dont know if that can be cultivated-- not at his level. I think he's just wired/ born that way. Stunning
This is just so ridiculously excellent. The insight to the musical thinking and creative process for both of these guys is astounding. What an absolute treat!
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Mr. Metheny is one of the best musicians ever, across genres and instruments. And interviewing your personal hero must have felt incredible!! I'm happy for you. :)
Also - If you're reading this and you haven't subscribed, for God's sake, subscribe already! :) Mr. Beato is a great teacher. He's able to condense a wide range of accumulated musical knowledge and history, and present it in a clear, useful, compelling, and relatable way that appeals to aspiring musicians of all ages. His passion for his craft and his industry shines through in every video of his that I've seen. I've been playing for most of my life, and I'm still learning valuable things from him. One example: His video on understanding modes for guitarists is amazing. I've been trying to get my head around that shit for decades (talk about a mental block!). One video from Rick, and BAM, mental block smashed.
I'm a singer, and I'm so inspired by his music theory classes, but this interview with Pat is just that much more special to me, because his music always inspires me to go where it leads me, and sometimes, it's outside my comfort zone. The thing is, that discomfort goes away when I always go back to the fundamentals. He also says that I've got to love what I do that much, and he's absolutely correct! @@Loathello
Rick , that is the king of the interviews. With you having the background on him, it is no nonsense interview, where in most cases Pat is the one who gives the direction . It is well organised and chronogically legit… Even after all the Pat interviews we’seen so far, this one sticks out fresh and exciting . Kudos
Can't believe it, just looked at my notifications wondering when this would be on..& here it is! '78 was when I first heard pat - top man/player period !! 😊 👍
"Most of the people who are going to check your thing out are not born yet." Van Gogh said something eerily similar when asked about the unpopularity of his art. "I am painting for those yet unborn." I am grateful to have been aware of Pat Matheny for so long. He is a visionary, beautiful artist.
I have few words to describe how meaningful this interview was for me. I discovered Pat, Lyle and Jaco on Joni's _Shadows and Light_ TV special when it aired. That album remains to this day one of my favourite albums simply because of the vast ground it covers. Pat's Solo on that album _still_ brings a tear to my eye all these decades later. _As Falls_ is one of my fave Pat/Lyle collaborations. At 59 and recovering from a 15 year hiatus on guitar, I'm struggling to even sound reasonable, but players such as Pat offer no end of inspiration to keep plodding along. Thank you for this, Rick.
Good God. This is the type of interview you watch over again and again for the rest of your life along with all your beloved albums, bootlegs etc. Not to mention it is now part of the greater historic record. Not sure I can adequately express how huge this is. Just, thank you.
Best Pat Metheny one-liner: "My point-of-view was not too influenced by the stuff, it was more about the thing"... Rick I can't thank you enough for this interview and everything you do! Merci.
Pat makes the best driving music. His music is unique in the way it creates images. I have to confess, I have listened to the albums for three decades and I never knew what the guy looks like. Good to see you. Thank you for the feels you've given. You are special.
Rick, this is one of the finest interviews on UA-cam in my opinion. Not least because you let Pat talk - and the questions and observations that you put to him are informed (of course! After all you are Rick Beato!) ...but you never set out to mystify or exclude the viewer/listener - as if the two of you exist on some ethereal plane that other musicians such as I, aren't qualified to exist on. You make the conversation natural and accessible. As a life-long admirer of the one-of-a-kind Mr Metheny, it's to heartening to listen to the two of you talk about 'feel' and the emotional significance of music as the essence of transcendence, as opposed to complex technique. This, in my humble opinion, is what all aspirant and experienced players need to hear. Thank you so much for sharing this honest, charming and important conversation with us.
Watching this again I am again amazed at your interviewing technique Rick. You make a comment or ask a question and then you let your interviewee go. A lot of interviewers love the sound of their own voice way too much. Not you, you let the interviewee expound and you LISTEN! A remarkable skill. I could listen to you talk all day but during interviews you let the subject Of the interview be the focus. Amazing work.
One and three-quarter hours and not one wasted moment. I've never heard such a great interview with a musician. Of course, Pat, knowing himself and his music so well, really makes this work but only because he's clearly so relaxed with Rick. Wonderful!
The Masterclass we've hoped would exist, has arrived.
Masterclass is exactly the right word.
Prodigy at Berkeley/preparation plus opportunities/Burton,Pastorias,Joni Mitchell ….and the most overlooked fact is that he never got caught up in drugs and alcohol..for a jazz musician that’s rare
this video is an absolute treasure, thank you Rick and thank you Pat for everything you both do
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Thank you Rick and Pat and Plini
@plini Thanks Plini! Let’s catch up soon my friend 🙏🏻
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@@RickBeato Mister Beato, please keep doing this. i think I will listen to this interview 10 times. I have watched it twice already; this is amazing.
Best line of the entire interview, “melody is the only one of the 3 branches of music that you can’t go to school for 4 years on.” If you’re a composer/songwriter, you should recognize how profound this concept is. The melody comes from you exclusively. You find your melody yourself.
Pat Metheny is a beautiful soul.
This is possibly the best interview of any musician or artist ever… I don’t think I am exaggerating
Rick can you please do something similar with Scofield!!!
Agreed
Rick is a top quality interviewer. His enthusiasm, knowledge of the guests and ability and willingness to let them speak produces compelling viewing. There is something very captivating about watching two people in the moment in a real discussion.
Yes Please! John Scofield would be a treasure for sure. Rick, like everyone is saying, THIS is how you interview a musician. Setting the bar! Only you can do these types of interviews.
Agreed!!
Rick is probably, BY FAR, the best prepared, technically and otherwise, knowledgeable and truly interested person to ever interview Pat. He so well knows his recording history and the various players surrounding it, that he instinctively knows the important, relevant and interesting questions to ask him. And you can tell that Pat really appreciates the opportunity and is really into the discussion. And after 40 whatever years of listening to PM, it has provided many wonderful insights. Rick is truly an unashamed fanboy for music and musicians he has a deep understanding of their genius and greatness!
Two amazingly clear memories at work / “Like it was yesterday” .
This should be a 10 part series!
Wonderfully stated 👍😊
Yes. Yes.
No doubt!
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This may be THE definitive Pat Metheny interview.
I can't wrap my head around the quality of these interviews
Simply incredible
It feels like such a privilege to listen to these great musicians.
Pat is so articulate and thoughtful. JUST LIKE HIS PLAYING. This interview is gold. Thank you for making it happen, Rick.
Thanks Aimee!
precisely. 👍
I wholeheartedly agree!
Back then we were a contemporary dance band only (I was the arranger/keyboard guy), so a lot of cool music escaped me as it wasn't "dance able".
I'm just now discovering a lot of great music that I didn't check into then.
Not all, but quite a lot.
My aunt spelled her name just like you did. It's uncommon. And I love it... She passed away in 2013 and your name just reminded me of her. Her name, Aimee Petcen (Hutchinson was her maiden name). My family has a lot names that are spelled in an uncommon way. Much love and God bless!
Fantastic observation! He’s such a good musician his personality comes out.
Rick's job is really tough on this one. He's looking at the interviewee in the eyes for almost 2 hours, nodding, smiling, and intervening sparsely, to make Pat feel comfortable and chat away. Most interviewers nowadays, especially those who are expert at the subject matter of the interview such as Rick, prefer to have a starring role in the interview, ruining the chance for the interviewee to go deeper, to be more candid and even to tell things he hasn't before in public. Rick refrains from this attitude, and that makes it all the more commendable. This is awesome interviewing.
It’s a love of a subject and respect for the artist.
I guess it comes natural, as he’s seemingly struck by the utterly awesome interviewee and the fact that this is actually happening :) Who wouldn’t be?
It really is well done. The only thing that would make it better is if Pat had a guitar and played some things. But I'm sure that was his choice not to.
@@Jeffero28 1:30:00
I totally agree! Rick respects his guests, and doesn’t feel like his ego needs bolstering.
I have to echo a previous commenter, this is what the internet was meant for. It's what humanity is for. Thank you so much Rick for sharing this with us. I was at that Wichita jazz festival with my high school jazz when Pat played with Gary Burton. I have been an avid fan since and loaned my Pat Metheny records to many young aspiring guitar players as required studying of how to develop a melody. Thank you Pat for all you've given us. As an aside, I don't know if you are in to this musician but, I think a good subject for an interview might be Ralph Towner. He has composed and played some beautiful songs and is a music educator. His band Oregon was a lesser known component of the jazz-classical-fusion scene but an important one none the less.
You're one previliged guy @jeraldtowle for sharing your experience with Mr. Metheny. I wish I have the opportunity too just like you and the rest of the musicians.
All the best.!
AHH, Oregon!
Music of Another Present Era
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ !
I love Ralph Towner too. That would be interesting. Solo Concert and Blue Sun are my favorites.
Towner would be a great interview. That ECM sound.
Oh yes: Ralph Towner & other Oregon members like Paul McCandless - I'm a huge fan! - would be fantastic!
Pat really says a lot. He moves back and forth between topics yet keeps track of his thoughts. So he is easy to follow. A lot to be said about stayng sober and drug free as a musician. I'll bet his personality has been pretty stable over his adult life.Very interesting talk. And I am reminded that I miss Jaco.
This can't be emphasized enough. There are a lot of great musicians that can no longer speak coherently and without the drug-induced side effects like degraded motor skills, memory loss, the vacant eyes, etc.
I've been playing bass for 30+ years... Jaco is just the next level of bass player... Love um always
.. think about all the wonderful bass we'd have... Its tragic but... I betcha his soul is out there somewhere loving the bass guitar...
When you do drugs, you're essentially treating yourself as a science experiment where you're the lab animal. You might get lucky once or twice, but you run horrible risks.
Drugs & alchohol keeps your prefrontal lobe from developing. So instead of being fully formed mature, informing your executive decision making at the age of 26, you may never get the coping skills and benefits of how best to take advantage of the opportunities coming your way. Life is what you make it, dont break this part of it.
Great life lesson to get the most from your mind is to keep it pure and unpolluted with mind altering chemicals.
Couldn’t click on this any faster Pat Metheny is a master of his craft and Bright Size Life is still one of the most beautiful things ever written
I click thumb up in the very first second of the video
I bet they jammed but didnt recorded it..." oh red light was off..."😅
Me too. Rick said in another video it was going to be posted on Monday. Woke up every morning and checked my phone. Had to wait till Thursday. Anticipation...
I love him! The greatest! ✌️
@@gavinw5469, such insufferable bs… you need a breath of fresh air man. Are you one of those people that tear off one of the little phone numbers on a poster at the grocery for kittens just to call and tell them you don’t want any?
“I’ve spent a lifetime trying to get to the point where I understand, so that I can, be.” That was a very meaningful statement for me to hear from Metheny.
“I try not to eat before a show, I play better”
That statement is the inspiration when studying music or anything in life. Amazing statement!
This show is really something special and unique. I really feel like this is the ultimate platform a musician can tell his musical journey like two musicians talking . It’s not a commercially motivated sales gimmick. I hope it grows into this direction continuing from here.
I love how Rick just lets the guest talk and tell his story. No talking over him. It’s really something special and we as fans are very lucky. ✌️
Rick is quickly becoming the James Lipton of Music. Hopefully a sponsor will step up and support his art.
@@scottskillman i miss J. Lipton. Especially his interviews with stars at the school.
@@OutOnTheTiles I was thinking the same thing! He never Interrupts him! So many interviewers just love to hear themselves talk and cut people off too soon.
I love guitars, how do you improvise?
Probably the best interview with a major musician I've ever heard. Rick has all the knowledge, sensitivity and self-confidence to let an extremely articulate, seminal artist just talk. When Rick does interject it's always an insightful, expert comment that lets Pat get into another fascinating line of thought. This is how it's done. ❤
Yes, the days when musicians made music. The Record Plant (L.A.) just shut down. Dire times for music.
You can tell Rick is so happy he's about to burst out of his body.
...watch Rick off to the side while Pat is playing through James - he's not only in his element, but inside his head all he can hear is "Omg! I'm here! This is me! I'm on a one to one with Pat, and he's playing!" I think if Pat had turned round and said "Hey Rick, grab that guitar there and we'll jam..." he would have just passed out! 😂 Brilliant interview!
@@sonovoxx Literally a mind out of body experience for Rick.
@@sonovoxx oh God, how I wish Pat would have a sort of guitar "Bob Ross" show where he'd play guitar and talk about chords(or whatever else) . I'd watch every one of them even if I didn't understand any of it (I'm just a dumb drummer who loves guitar)
"I've been wanting to interview Pat since the beginning..." Yes, Rick. Yes! This is unbelievably awesome!
Rick was the best guy for the job. He obviously worships Pat and knows his music yet he seemed completely at ease and had great questions. Pat was very talkative and I was surprised at how he talked about music in such an abstract fashion. His thoughts on melody and feel and illuminating the chords were colorfully descriptive and gave insight into his way of thinking. I especially liked when they talked about triads over bass notes. That is how I personally think about music. I was not aware that Pat writes his music on piano. Piano players think of triads over bass notes.
I am not a musician, at all; I don't understand 98% of the things you guys say, but I hope you know that the principles underlying this conversation are universal and, sadly, being forgotten. I am a playwright and an actor and I had no problem immediately applying those principles to the art I do understand.
This is important stuff.
Very well said! And so so true!!
Very well put! Is universal regardless of Artform.or discipline
Each to their own but 101 dislikes
Just scratching my head;)
Been waiting for this interview as well since coming across Rick's channel
music theory is jargon essentially to understand on a human level what is universal. thats tight that you were able to still extract the essence from it. rad
@@adampoe2797 you a musician? what do you like to do man?
Pat is a "FIRST NEW GUY" forever, dude just rocks
I saw Pat Metheney Group in 1998 as part of our high school jazz ensemble. Pat heard that there was a high school band in the audience and asked us to stand up, then he dedicated Minuano to us. Unreal moment.
What an honor !!!!! I too saw him in concert, one of the most talented, if not THE MOST TALENTED musicians EVER ! That is my favorite song he does…. MINUANO !!!!!!!😘
thats so sick
Jesus Christ that sounds like a higher honor than like… the Purple Heart 😂😂😂
Minuano is otherworldly… an all time fave.
Pat Metheny has always been my FAVORITE jazz musician since I heard the first chord of Slip Away and I've been hooked on his music ever since. God be with you always 🎉
My brain just exploded. This is THE documentary with Pat Metheny I have ALWAYS hoped to listen to... This almost feels like some entity finally declassified some top secret documents and made them public after 30 years. Thank you so much for this !!!
Totally agree. I treasure the White album, but never really got to hear anyone chatting about it. So grateful.
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@@imnotsure4149 You're brain isn't too small. There's a lot of great musicians out there and if you haven't heard of one until then it's your lucky day! Beato wrote a short bio of Pat Metheny in the description if you want to check it out.
@@imnotsure4149 Nah, just think of it as the first day of the rest of your musical life. I envy that you will hear this stuff for the first time if you pursue it.
“Sometimes I’ll just play Falling Grace in all 12 keys for five or six hours!”
And that ladies and gentlemen is why Pat Metheny is such a boss.
Nice!
The secret of every master in any field… Hard work! That’s why we are living in declining times… A very few are willing to make the hard work.
Every musician should watch and listen this phenomenal interview...it's a gem, it's a gift...
I bet... a generation from now, young musicians will tell others that the Beato interview with Metheny back in the early 20's really turned on a light for them 😉👍
These Interviews are historical artefacts of another league in times to come. Pretty sure very few of us alive can comprehend what service to the arts and to humanity Rick is doing here.
Well said
absolutely.
This.
Yep!
What I was about to say...
Whaaaaaat?!?!?!? I’m not even half way through and this is one of the best things I’ve ever seen. This is not a gem, this is THE GEM. Thank you, Rick, THANK YOU 🙏🏼❤️♾
Thank you! I need suggestion on improvisation
Pat Metheny is very generous with his time and knowledge. Great interview.
Absolutely, well said
We all know that Pat Metheny is a music legend, but what impressed me most was how clever he is. He's curious, sensibile and very logical. That's not only a music talent, but it's also about being very present, brilliant and knowing exactly how things work. He could have been a brilliant engineer or a top hitech manager. Well done Rick. It is an excellent insight.
Pat is a deep thinker. Artists with brilliant minds are very detailed oriented. No stone is left unturned.
@@reidwhitton6248 Steve Vai is the same way.
@@renorailfanning5465 "Was" the same way, Pat still "IS" that way.
Huge difference, but I agree.
He has great hair. Should not be overlooked..
I have relistened to this interview along with a number of other interviews by you. All I can say is "FINALLY!!" someone who can properly interview musicians. No questions of favorite food or how to categorize music. Only intelligent questions by a subject mater expert. You have no idea how good these interviews are. Years from now, they will be considered the gold standard of music interviews...
FINALLY
so true!
Cough cough NARDWAUR
Amen to that❣️
Both these men have command of the English language
I’ve been a Metheny fan forever. How could I not be? Best musicians attract best musicians, like Lyle, Jaco, Nana, Toots. So grateful for your music, Pat! You’ve outdone yourself, Rick! Kudos.
Well said…
I've been a fan 'Always and Forever' too. This interview got my attention!!!
I had a friend give me Secret Story back in '92. She just hated it. It was the first time i heard PM. To this day one of my favorite albums
@@raptango_na6199 Great album. Was the first time I got to see Pat live. Feels like another lifetime at this point.
In the words of Bowie. Look at that hair!
Pat Matheny played in Charleston tonight. I watch this video, this afternoon. I was afraid I wouldn’t understand the music with It’s technicalities. I went anyway. I listened, I enjoyed, I absorbed, I felt. It was amazing
I'm so glad you did. I heard him here in Atlanta on the 12th of Feb., and I cried when it was over. I've been a huge fan of Pats, and I've been trying so hard to meet him, but alas, the pandemic has prevented us this time. It's so sad! I'm glad I asked my friend to pick me up after the concert. I just couldn't take Uber, and Vicki was actually glad to send her husband to pick me up, because she was super tired. I just couldn't be alone right after the show, because it's been so bad here in Atlanta. No one is safe here anymore, and the police are completely unreliable. People think they can take the law into their hands. Public transportation is virtually nonexistent, and people, (including me) don't even want to live here anymore. There is so much violence here, and too many gangs are ruling the streets! I needed that concert. I don't even watch the news, because it's just too depressing. If it weren't for my church family and Pat's music, I would have sold my house a long time ago and moved back to France if I could. I'm just glad I still have some sanity left, because it's totally out of control over here!
I know Matheny is the Southern way to spell his last name, but it's Metheny.
Pat Metheny is beast!!!!! Rick, YOU INTERVIEWED A LEGEND!!!!!!!
YES!
He did!
This is incredibly special. Pat has *never* appeared in any Jaco documentary, official or otherwise - to hear him talk so candidly (and warmly) about their early times together is such a singular, big deal. Thank you so much for what you do, Rick!!
YOU INTERVIEWED PAT METHENY my mind is blown!!! Thank you so much Rick for your incredible content!!
I was so lucky to see Charlie Hayden and Pat Metheny play their “Beyond The Missouri Sky”concert. I got to say Thank You to Pat and shake his hand after the show. Unfortunately Charlie had already left but Pat stuck around to chat and sign autographs.
That concert hast to be one of my most memorable and treasured moments. Those small and intimate gigs are usually the best.
Rick, this was a major contribution to the culture of the Universe. This will be watched for centuries. Thanks!! 🙏🏻
YEOP!!
I BET IT WILL GET A FOOTNOTE IN THE HITCHHIKER S GUIDE TO THE UNIVERSE AT THE NEXT PRINTING AND WILL BE AS IF A SIGNPOST !!
@Ricardo Maffeo understatement of the year. For me as a pianist and piano teacher, I’m excited by a couple of things they said that vindicated my own views that fall outside the proverbial box. Things I’ve taught that successfully set up “aha!” moments for a few students down the road. That makes it all worth it!
Sounds like the outlandish exclamations of a madman (or someone _really_ high). Thing is, you're probably right 🤔
Pat is 67 years old, but looks like he's in his forties! Wow, he looks good. I had the great fortune to see him in concert in Austin sometime in the mid to late 1970's. It was an amazing show to say the least.
And the voice si so clear like he was in the twenties!!!
no drugs, no cigs, no coffee, no alc….incredible
Same age as moi, cool. I remember him playing the college circuit when I was 19 or so, which means he was fabulous quite young.
No joke, I saw him here and immediately thought he's way younger than I'd previously thought. But 67 sounds about right. He does look like he's in his 40s. Wild.
@@NeilRaouf I am straight edge like that. Never been drunk, don't do any drugs, don't smoke. Pat is my inspiration to stay straight edge.
100 years from now, this interview will be referenced by musicians and students of music for about 1000 different reasons. Thank you, Rick, and thank you, Pat.
Only if the musicians spoken about are described formally. Given names abound, but no surnames are provided - nor are personal details given. I've read a lot about the musicians Metheny was involved with, so I'm catching the historical development of his collaborators from information that's aside from this interview.
A hundred years from now students of Metheny, Mays and Pastorius will need and want context in which to place this discussion about their music. Non-musos even more so because much of the technical info will be very difficult to understand - so listening to their recordings will be essential for them to get a feel for what's going on.
@@Gerhold102 For serious historians/musicians, their research will certainly provide that context. Good thing WE have the internet, eh?
@@rk41gator Cannot abide sycophantic interviews like this where the interviewer acts like a fifteen year old schoolgirl who's in with the in-crowd. Had I not known who they were talking about I'd have been looking for a muso called "Jocko". That's how the subtitling interpreted it.
@@Gerhold102 To each his own and of course you are entitled to be 'disappointed' with the interview. But I do not see it as fawning. After the intro I felt that they were mutually appreciating the jazz musicians who preceded them both while discussing 'modern' developments. I am not a big fan of Pat's approach/sound yet can see the depth of his understanding and musical concepts. But it is more fun to troll.
@@Gerhold102 And yet Pat and his peers love Rick's "thing" enough to spread the gospel and Pat actually come in for an interview.
What a gloriously majestic lion's mane and what a sunny smiling face.
A beautiful human being.
He’s a Leo dude 🎉 ruled by the Sun 👑
I used to teach journalism and had a unit on how to prepare for an interview. After watching this, I believe Rick has been preparing his entire life to interview Pat!
Yup! He mentioned in a stream after the Sting interview that he doesn't prepare much for these, and all his knowledge is simply what he has already learned over the years as a fan and student of the music. He said he wants it to flow naturally, like an improvisation.
I’m thrilled to hear someone as legendary as Pat say that your channel is a huge service to musicians. I agree wholeheartedly.
Agreed!!!
I'm too inarticulate to adequately express how grateful I am for this.
Incidentally, your comment somewhat proves you wrong 🙃
Pat Metheny's music is the soundtrack of my life. This interview feeds my soul - thank you.
Me too. There is a song for every mood.
Pat Metheny is one of America's national treasures-and so is Rick Beato. Both priceless.
Paul Simon too
Rick is a great interviewer. He talks just enough and when he does he's in the groove.
I don't think Rick stopped smiling throughout the entire interview. :)
Dude, right off the bat, Pat is full of compliments of Rick's "thing"... this is fantastic.
He's right, though. Hes making a huge difference in music, Rick Beato is doing brilliant, wonderful work
Every bit deserved, In My Opinion.
"I've spent a lifetime trying to get to the point where I understand, so that I can be."
In all seriousness my favorite quote from the interview and encouraging to hear as an aspiring guitarist. Pat exudes joy and the smile that never leaves Rick's face put a smile on mine. This is what it looks like when you meet one of your heroes :)
My nickname is truthskr truth seeker. I don't know how a guy from the NYC housing projects was introduced to honest artists like Guru Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, and Guru Pat Methney.... I vibrate different from many I grew up with. I have been and will forever seek "Me"
“Compared to Bach, we all suck” is probably the best quote ever!!!
1:15:30 the greatest comment ever indeed. The truest of truths!
Funny that; Pat's improv/practice around "James" reminded me of Bach organ works.
@@RogerBarraud Break down James (especially the bridge) and it's totally Bach.
If only we had tape recorders during the Baroque period. Bach was known as an unbelievable improvisor (as were pretty much all the greatest composers, think Beethoven). He was based in Germany and he would meet up with other contemporary musicians/composers such as - for one example - Sylvius Leopold Weiss (a lutist, who, at the time was based out of Italy) and would have 'jam sessions', improvising on theme and variations and styles of the period. Musically speaking, it's the same damn thing as the communication and play that happens in jazz. It has been written - regarding Bach/Weiss - that observers couldn't say who was the better improvisor. But, as, I think, Pat speaks about in this interview, does that matter?
I've been quoting this since I first saw the interview.
I love the way Rick simply allows his guests to speak and develop their ideas. It happened on all Satch, Vai, Lukather, Frampton and now Metheny interviews. Awesome!
He's so good at that, but I really liked the intercvhange between Rick and Eric Johnson.
I would have loved to hear Pat's sentence ending at around 48:23 though.
Rick---this is a diamond of an interview. We all know Pat is on his own level, we‘ve always known it. We are now closer to understandig why.
You got that,mate..100%
Agreed = rick did a masterclass with his interview w/PM
This interview with Pat together with the Julian Lage and Keith Jarrett interviews qualify you, Rick, to be nothing less than a national treasure. All praise for being such a brilliant listener.
Yes. Rick allows the interview to be about the subject. Seems people he interviews have no problem understanding that the interview is going to be a great one. Rick brings that out with his confident insight and knowledge. Well done .!
Pat was great with the Metropole Orchest....With Anna Jopek....and his music is very well recieved worldwide .
Agreed
Add the one to Brad Mehldau
Rick, I don't think I've ever listened to - or read - an interview with a musician that I admire that has had the impact on me that this interview has. Your depth of knowledge and interview style perfectly complement Metheny's thinking and how he articulates his perspectives and experiences. Your ability to call out specific tunes and records gave such depth to the discussion - and it was just fun to watch and listen. I'm a bassist - and one of the first deep "woodshed" things I did was learn a couple of Mark Egan's solos off of the "white" album. At 62, I can't remember things from a month ago sometimes - but I can still remember those solos!
Congrats on a simply marvelous job.
Spot on! Very well articulated!
Thank you Rick. Thank you Pat. This is what the internet was meant for!
Rick is one of the absolute best interviewers period: 1) A perfect gentleman; 2) Insightful, interesting questioning; 3) He LISTENS (he's totally secure with who he is as a person, not feeling the need to interrupt/talk, etc.). I love this channel. I can't imagine the amount of work it is to maintain this level of a channel. What a gift.
This makes me cry every time, so insightful. Anyone else?
Yes! I just heard Pat in concert this evening and still didn't get to meet him, and I've been trying for 42 years! Yes, I cried! His music has been a sort of lifeline for me, especially during some of the most difficult struggles with chronic, debilitating pain throughout much of my life. When he was honored by the Society for Neuroscience in 2018, I cried happy tears, because his music has helped me become more capable of dealing with it. In fact, just before being put under anesthesia in 2009 when I had a 3-hour operation on my brain to remove a Venus malformation and a piece of bone which had been thrust into the brain when I was seven, I asked my care team if they could play "Slip Away" before they put me under. Not only did they, they also played it as I went under. I've suffered through nearly 48 years of Bilateral, Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia. There were many times I'd pass out from it. Two hospitals, 3 neurologists and a neurophysicist all said that I had the worst case they'd ever seen. It took 30 years just to finally be diagnosed. Finally, in 2020, I started acupuncture, and in 2021, I started Infarred Laser therapy and have my own Laser Pen now to use when it flares up. Even after that surgery, I still suffered for several years until i started receiving Botox, and now I'm off the opioids! No more Gabapantin or Lyrica! It's just Cymbalta and Baclofen, and I can't believe how good it feels to sing! I want to sing "The First Circle" so much, because it's my favorite song of all time. Dr. Pat Metheny's music has been a salve for the soul, an elixir for the mind and a fundamental source of encouragement and hope for my complex PTSD. I've got to meet him and tell him, but I keep missing him, and I've been trying for 42 years. I also sing with two choirs in the Orthodox Christian Church, and I love it when he talks about being on the bandstand, because it's church to me, too.
I love how Rick is trying to hide his gleaming schoolboy smile at the start.
Pat Metheny: “ ‘Good luck’ is where preparation meets opportunity.” Great interview!!
Pat is right, this conversation is a blessing and service to Music.
I bought American Garage when it first came out. I was stunned at the beauty of that record and have been a fan ever since. I was so sad to learn that Lyle Mays had past away. The music he and Pat made was pure genius. I’m so glad I was able to see the band on the tour for American Garage.
In about 1995, I was getting my G3 Mac repaired in Tarzana CA and the guy next to me was also getting his G3 repaired (Apple's buggiest Mac). He was very, very thin and had a genuine, kind smile. I saw him sign the repair slip... Lyle Mays. To this day, I regret not saying anything.
Pat Metheny is the musician’s musician. In my opinion the most technically astute guitar player keeping a perfect balance between technical and emotional offering
Love this. thank you.
Well put.
I’ve never watched such a seamless coherent interview
I love the way Pat interviews. He doesn’t speak egocentric focused. Never gloating about his accomplishments. It’s as if he sees himself as secondary or incidental to the music, musicians and music related experiences he has had and are simply floating around in the ethos and he’s just doing his best to draw from it and breath life into these stories and recollections to share with us, what these musical things are.
Have you read his comments about Kenny G? Do a UA-cam search.
@@JohnDoe-gk7ok
So, he´s got opinions about Kenny G..........And?
@@JohnDoe-gk7ok "warranted comments about" ..there, fixed it for you...
Yessir, so refreshing!
Pat has been a beautifully significant part of my life since the late 70s. Yet I've never heard him really talk music. Until this. An absolute JOY this conversation is!
Just stare at RIck's face when Pat is talking. He can't believe he's sitting there.
*I* can't believe he is sitting there!
He's a great interviewer.
Exactly! Wtf.
Rick, I just donated $20.00 to you because this might be the greatest interview of a musician that I've ever seen. Amazing!
Pat is a little scarry to me. It takes someone prepared and knowledgable like Rick to honor Pat's work and to really pick his brains and get the answers. Thank you for this interview.
He's a genius!
Another great interview! "The drummer is the leader of every band" This is a quote from one of the most acomplished Guitarist of all time. Going to see him tonight!
Holy sh*t. I am a 60-year-old music fanatic and I have listened to and loved Pat Metheny's music for literally decades. Thank you Rick for bringing legends like Pat into the "here and now" zeitgeist. I also think that I may deserve a few + Internets for the use of "zeitgeist" in a relevant sentence. At any rate, this is an instant classic interview.
I could listen to Pat for another 90 minutes. He's the GOAT.
We got him boys.
Finally!
Almost two hours of interview, well worth the wait.
Edit
After watching the entire video you can understand why he's still ahead of everyone.
This is the ultimate interview.
I know absolutely nothing about what you guys are discussing but I simply cannot stop watching 🤯
I got goosebumps.
hi Martin
Same!
YOUR playing gives me goosebumps, Martin!
Cool man, which part was most interesting or inspiring to you? Did Pat influence your playing? What have you picked up from him?
mind blowing
Unreal. Very grateful for you and this amazing conversation!
Just wanted to say , love your work. I see a few heavy hitters in the comments. Stay safe my man.
I love your tunes!! You have inspired me for years - much love man
Far too short. It could be a week long, and I'd still say it's too short. I could watch a month of this.
Rick is one of the most knowledgeable, respected and enthused music experts and educators (and an excellent guitarist) in Social Media land.
Pat Metheny is one of the greatest guitarists, and one of the most musically intelligent players, on the planet.
Put the two together and you’re guaranteed one of the most informative, detailed, highly insightful, enlightening and ridiculously relaxed interviews you’re likely to hear or see.
Those of us not in 'the profession' but who attempt to chat to the more serious musician/ artist on a more cerebral and musical level can only dream of aspiring to this expertise of interview and interviewer knowledge, in the company of a true genius of his art.
Outstanding Interview.
Outstanding comment :)
Historical interview, will remain as a national American treasure as long as we can preserve it.
And even after that. It's in the ether now.
24:30, "'the drummer is the leader of every band "'. I like it when Pat says this. Not many people know this, and in general the drummer is not seen as an important or intelligent member of the band. But of course they are.
Wowowowowow!!!!! Been a Pat fan since I first heard the solo on 'Are you going with me' from Travels. I was 13 years old. On a family holiday in the Welsh mountains... I spent 4 days in the front of the camper we hired just listening to this solo over and over again.... till my Dad got so pissed with me. He wanted to know why I wasn't enjoying nature outside. I remember being so angry and telling him that nature was made better by what was in my ears and he should listen!! To this day not sure he understood.... but that tune and solo still make me cry!
That has always been a very moving piece of music for me too! The live version on Travels especially, although I love the studio version on Offramp too.
I think this is the best interview about music I’ve ever seen and heard.
I saw the Sting interview a couple days before I got to this one, and that one was pretty interesting, but this was next level. I think I might go so far to say this is the best jazz talk/interview I've ever listened to, and I've listened to a LOT of them.
I completely agree.
A Rick Beato interview always turns into a few minutes of listening to the interview, then opening spotify to listen to the interesting music they are talking about, then back to the interview, then spotify. I think this one took me at least 4 lovely hours to get through! Thanks to Rick and Pat for doing this!
"I've spent a lifetime trying to get the point where I understand, so that I can be."
"Ok, the stuff that I can't do, that's what I want to work on."
Rick, thank you for introducing this guy to me. What a genius.
Pat's concerts have a way of changing a person's entire conception of what music can be.
His mindset has always fascinated me; to be so laser focused on all things music with no letup. I dont know if that can be cultivated-- not at his level. I think he's just wired/ born that way.
Stunning
The Methmeister is definitely one of a kind.
Agreed, just saw him tonight in Barcelona for the fifth time. He is still mind blowing and magical. I have been a fan since 1975!
This is just so ridiculously excellent. The insight to the musical thinking and creative process for both of these guys is astounding. What an absolute treat!
The Book of Truth
When things were at their very worst:
2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beaware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
"Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
"The time for the schism in the Church is almost here and you must get prepared now"
Mr. Metheny is one of the best musicians ever, across genres and instruments. And interviewing your personal hero must have felt incredible!! I'm happy for you. :)
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Mr. Beato is a great teacher. He's able to condense a wide range of accumulated musical knowledge and history, and present it in a clear, useful, compelling, and relatable way that appeals to aspiring musicians of all ages. His passion for his craft and his industry shines through in every video of his that I've seen. I've been playing for most of my life, and I'm still learning valuable things from him.
One example: His video on understanding modes for guitarists is amazing. I've been trying to get my head around that shit for decades (talk about a mental block!). One video from Rick, and BAM, mental block smashed.
I'm a singer, and I'm so inspired by his music theory classes, but this interview with Pat is just that much more special to me, because his music always inspires me to go where it leads me, and sometimes, it's outside my comfort zone. The thing is, that discomfort goes away when I always go back to the fundamentals. He also says that I've got to love what I do that much, and he's absolutely correct! @@Loathello
Rick , that is the king of the interviews. With you having the background on him, it is no nonsense interview, where in most cases Pat is the one who gives the direction . It is well organised and chronogically legit… Even after all the Pat interviews we’seen so far, this one sticks out fresh and exciting . Kudos
As a musician, listening to these guys talk reminds of how much of my life I've wasted!
Can't believe it, just looked at my notifications wondering when this would be on..& here it is! '78 was when I first heard pat - top man/player period !! 😊 👍
Probably his best long-form interview in decades. Just extraordinary.
Most inspiring comment: "I am still working on fundamentals all the time". Amazing.
"Most of the people who are going to check your thing out are not born yet." Van Gogh said something eerily similar when asked about the unpopularity of his art. "I am painting for those yet unborn." I am grateful to have been aware of Pat Matheny for so long. He is a visionary, beautiful artist.
I have few words to describe how meaningful this interview was for me. I discovered Pat, Lyle and Jaco on Joni's _Shadows and Light_ TV special when it aired. That album remains to this day one of my favourite albums simply because of the vast ground it covers. Pat's Solo on that album _still_ brings a tear to my eye all these decades later. _As Falls_ is one of my fave Pat/Lyle collaborations. At 59 and recovering from a 15 year hiatus on guitar, I'm struggling to even sound reasonable, but players such as Pat offer no end of inspiration to keep plodding along. Thank you for this, Rick.
I haven't been able to watch the whole thing...Does Rick ask him about his time with Joni?
@Trane Francks - Your guitar says Welcome back!
Good God. This is the type of interview you watch over again and again for the rest of your life along with all your beloved albums, bootlegs etc. Not to mention it is now part of the greater historic record. Not sure I can adequately express how huge this is. Just, thank you.
Best Pat Metheny one-liner: "My point-of-view was not too influenced by the stuff, it was more about the thing"... Rick I can't thank you enough for this interview and everything you do! Merci.
Knowing the difference between the “thing” and the “stuff” - how huge is that ?
Berkeley education for ya 😄
The first thing that hit me in the interview! Brilliant! 😂
You know...the thing
Pat makes the best driving music. His music is unique in the way it creates images. I have to confess, I have listened to the albums for three decades and I never knew what the guy looks like. Good to see you. Thank you for the feels you've given. You are special.
What a concept...a musician interviewing a musician talking only about music, musicianship, performance! Thank you Rick and Pat
Yes!!! No hurt feelings reports, or speculation about who got the most girls (or substances).
Pat Metheny is a national treasure.
An international treasure.
Rick, this is one of the finest interviews on UA-cam in my opinion. Not least because you let Pat talk - and the questions and observations that you put to him are informed (of course! After all you are Rick Beato!) ...but you never set out to mystify or exclude the viewer/listener - as if the two of you exist on some ethereal plane that other musicians such as I, aren't qualified to exist on. You make the conversation natural and accessible.
As a life-long admirer of the one-of-a-kind Mr Metheny, it's to heartening to listen to the two of you talk about 'feel' and the emotional significance of music as the essence of transcendence, as opposed to complex technique. This, in my humble opinion, is what all aspirant and experienced players need to hear.
Thank you so much for sharing this honest, charming and important conversation with us.
What a fantastic, casual and deep thinking interview.
Amen , it's great to here Pat on Pat . Rick's brilliant
Thmk you Rick and Pat for this wonderful insight too seldom heard the both of you are tremendously gifted musicians
Watching this again I am again amazed at your interviewing technique Rick. You make a comment or ask a question and then you let your interviewee go. A lot of interviewers love the sound of their own voice way too much. Not you, you let the interviewee expound and you LISTEN! A remarkable skill. I could listen to you talk all day but during interviews you let the subject Of the interview be the focus. Amazing work.
One and three-quarter hours and not one wasted moment. I've never heard such a great interview with a musician. Of course, Pat, knowing himself and his music so well, really makes this work but only because he's clearly so relaxed with Rick. Wonderful!