NEW: Jail call between Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell where they discuss 'blueprints,' 'plans' and texts

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    This is a jail call between Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow where they discuss "blueprints," "plans" and text messages. This was made on June 8, 2020 - less than 12 hours before police showed up at Chad's home and discovered JJ and Tylee buried on his property.
    This recording was played during Daybell's trial on May 15, 2024.
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  • @goodiesgumdrops1164
    @goodiesgumdrops1164 21 день тому +310

    Chad seems to have the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old.

    • @kathleenp9643
      @kathleenp9643 21 день тому +29

      IF that!

    • @hereitis.2587
      @hereitis.2587 21 день тому +9

      Just fall into his voice and forget how easy it is to understand his simpleton thoughts.

    • @wiseup8729
      @wiseup8729 21 день тому

      Mentally ill delusional one

    • @selinaoakley3613
      @selinaoakley3613 21 день тому +24

      Oh come on! Be fair now....seven max 🙄

    • @lorikeller5104
      @lorikeller5104 21 день тому +33

      His voice! Just so monotone, can you imagine having to listen to him talk for hours. Ugh. Boring

  • @2dogmom
    @2dogmom 21 день тому +239

    The giggling is nauseating

    • @Michelebell74
      @Michelebell74 21 день тому +10

      Ugh yes, i came here to say that.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 21 день тому +1

      That's right, it is like they are mentally challenged, but they are not.

    • @PeggyMiesko-xd5dx
      @PeggyMiesko-xd5dx 21 день тому +6

      And what are they laughing about?!?

    • @hereitis.2587
      @hereitis.2587 21 день тому +2

      Pillow talk

  • @KathyMpamugo
    @KathyMpamugo 21 день тому +243

    What are these 2 weirdos giggling about ? 😡🤢

    • @mckt5846
      @mckt5846 21 день тому +48

      Right? And it's like weird nervous giggles. This whole call was so creepy.

    • @lindagilbertson7488
      @lindagilbertson7488 21 день тому +36

      They are creeps!!!

    • @dianayount2122
      @dianayount2122 21 день тому +19

      like teens w crushes..

    • @hereitis.2587
      @hereitis.2587 21 день тому +10

      Pillow talk with baby voice is both of their modes of communicating and manipulation.

    • @mary-lee5908
      @mary-lee5908 21 день тому +15

      Stop talking in psycho riddles!!!! You shouldn't even be allowed to talk!

  • @user-mn447
    @user-mn447 21 день тому +269

    I COULD NOT TALK WITH CHAD. He talks like he is mentally slow. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @PollyF25
    @PollyF25 21 день тому +158

    That goofy giggling at the end of nearly every line. What is he, a 12-year-old girl?

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 21 день тому +2

      No even a 12 year old does that, he is slow mentally or even worse. Because mentally slow doesn't do evil.

    • @AChickAndADuck
      @AChickAndADuck 21 день тому +9

      Duper’s delight? It’s so weird

    • @hereitis.2587
      @hereitis.2587 21 день тому +1

      Pillow talk

    • @brendaredmond4678
      @brendaredmond4678 21 день тому +7

      Yes. Yes he is.

    • @enick7955
      @enick7955 21 день тому +1

      Makes me sick to think what he is doing.

  • @lauraquigley6403
    @lauraquigley6403 21 день тому +163

    I would think the jury would find it so sick to hear them laughing while babies are buried in the yard!!

    • @ALLGIRL62
      @ALLGIRL62 20 днів тому +1

      I'm looking forward to the Prosecution's close. I hope they say exactly that.

  • @HKavarana
    @HKavarana 21 день тому +144

    So happy to know this was his last day of freedom. Their conversation is sickening.

  • @TheSouthAfricanGamer
    @TheSouthAfricanGamer 21 день тому +112

    They are absolutely sick. What I dont get is how anybody could fall for Chad's lies ... The guy has the personality of a potato and the charisma of a rock.
    I guess all his gifts and his 100% confidence didn't see her getting a life sentence and him facing the death penalty!!!!
    This call is the final nail in his coffin.

    • @xanthippe_2695
      @xanthippe_2695 21 день тому +9

      Potato, perfect description of Chad 🥔

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 21 день тому +8

      I just said the same thing to my husband about this call being the final nail in his coffin. Chad is going to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison and he deserves it.

    • @KnitzyKitzy
      @KnitzyKitzy 21 день тому

      Lori iso mentally well and is completely a believer. Chad on the other hand I believe does not believe any of it. He just uses it to get sex and money.

    • @tbjtcaatgmailcom
      @tbjtcaatgmailcom 20 днів тому

      Lori is starting to know …she’s been duped by Chad.

  • @Philothea7
    @Philothea7 21 день тому +111

    Chad was trying to reassure Lori not to turn on him....continued manipulation

    • @rachaelmccarl
      @rachaelmccarl 21 день тому +11

      10000000000%

    • @FiveAcres1
      @FiveAcres1 21 день тому +7

      I agree. He had to keep her onboard with the religious grandiosity.

    • @doreendaykin6693
      @doreendaykin6693 21 день тому +7

      Amen!!! She made him nervous this time….He had to throw out how grand, perfect, divine, important etc but she is making him nervous……so he’s probably thinking she has turned DARK….very quickly to be zombiefied!!

    • @Truth17John17
      @Truth17John17 21 день тому

      And she was so easily manipulated because she is clarifiable insane .... which is what she gets for her occult involvement.

    • @elizabethdiaz5475
      @elizabethdiaz5475 21 день тому +1

      ​@rachaelmccarl agree! I wonder if he is going to take the stand and testify against her. And if that happens, I wonder if the prosecution could ask her to testify also.

  • @Yachtnurse51
    @Yachtnurse51 21 день тому +113

    Still can’t believe Zulema and Melanie and Melanie B knew so much and didn’t get arrested🤷‍♀️

    • @MaryGloede
      @MaryGloede 21 день тому +17

      After today's testimony and all the continuous and frequent calls between Chad, Lori, Zulema and Alex, Zulema had to know what was up. I bet the authorities told her to fess up or she was going down with them so they offered her the immunity.

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 21 день тому +12

      Don't forget Summer Shiflet. Why else didn't she include any photos of JJ and Tylee in the tribute video she made for Alex Cox when he died?

    • @jabbermocky4520
      @jabbermocky4520 21 день тому +5

      Yet. I think only one has immunity so far.

    • @doreendaykin6693
      @doreendaykin6693 21 день тому +2

      Amen!! Hoping they will be.

    • @aussiemum3016
      @aussiemum3016 21 день тому +7

      ⁠@@jabbermocky4520Zulema said that she had been given immunity for cooperation when she was questioned on the stand. Melanie G didn't say that in that many words this time, but did indicate she too has immunity, it was in Lori's trial Mel G said that she had immunity. I'm not sure about the other Melanie however, I don’t recall anything being said of her having full immunity

  • @lanikalia
    @lanikalia 21 день тому +90

    They thought they were sooo brilliant; (burner phones for the win), but in fact they were idiots.

    • @kathleenp9643
      @kathleenp9643 21 день тому +2

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @MaryGloede
      @MaryGloede 21 день тому +13

      Yea, i can hear them now - Let's get some burner phones and alias emails, they will never figure us out.

  • @SneakyM68
    @SneakyM68 21 день тому +104

    This conversation is the definition of Cringe!

    • @lgb2024.
      @lgb2024. 21 день тому +6

      YES! He is a gigantic dork and how she fell for this is beyond my comprehension, but I guess she is as evil as he is, Or worse perhaps..

  • @JaneJ993
    @JaneJ993 21 день тому +160

    Chad always sounds like vallium. And theyre both laughing. Evil. Enjoy prison guys

    • @kellymckinney5975
      @kellymckinney5975 21 день тому +2

      YES!

    • @Truth17John17
      @Truth17John17 21 день тому +5

      He better get the death penalty. She is completely insane, but it's her own fault. That's what happens when you play around with the occult.

    • @amelie9271
      @amelie9271 21 день тому +3

      “Sounds like Valium” is so perfectly said.

  • @lisaglenn4698
    @lisaglenn4698 21 день тому +64

    WOW... Do these fools actually think detectives don't know what they're talking about...

    • @jabbermocky4520
      @jabbermocky4520 21 день тому +8

      Not the most inventive "code" is it?

    • @bluhuny
      @bluhuny 21 день тому +4

      😂 it’s laughable

    • @shelbyhunkler9259
      @shelbyhunkler9259 21 день тому

      Tee hee!

    • @hnormizzle
      @hnormizzle 20 днів тому

      It’s the same people who killed off two children thinking no one would notice they were missing. There is not a single intelligent thought combined between them.

    • @prettiladi8811
      @prettiladi8811 5 днів тому

      This is the comment I was looking for! Lmao…..Like who tf do you two think you’re fooling?! A 5 year old can tell what you two are talking about. 😂

  • @ShannonW22
    @ShannonW22 21 день тому +52

    Besides talking in code, she sounds very angry at him through the fake laughing and he sounds like he is playing dumb to it.

  • @isabelrosas4454
    @isabelrosas4454 21 день тому +115

    It's a combination of only 5 problems. JJ, Taylee, Alex, Tammy and Charles' deaths.

    • @marjieestivill
      @marjieestivill 21 день тому +17

      Bingo on that aspect of the code

    • @pamelawelling
      @pamelawelling 21 день тому +17

      “Projects” completed in “Batches” apparently

    • @cindyk8974
      @cindyk8974 21 день тому +7

      Bingo. Exactly what I immediately thought!!

    • @wiseup8729
      @wiseup8729 21 день тому +12

      If they had let them all live they would have been free to continue their insanity

    • @NikkiBornRight
      @NikkiBornRight 21 день тому +11

      No Kay was the 5th Alex was still working on the project right according to this

  • @TrendyHunter1982
    @TrendyHunter1982 21 день тому +67

    This is the nail in chads coffin

  • @user-fr2iq9jm5z
    @user-fr2iq9jm5z 21 день тому +92

    At this point, how did Lori think she would be getting out of jail without producing the kids.

    • @franceswatts4001
      @franceswatts4001 21 день тому +9

      I wondered that exact thing earlier today.

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 21 день тому +7

      No body…no case.

    • @Stacy-
      @Stacy- 21 день тому +6

      They were the chosen ones or prophets & it was "part of God's plan"... 🤮 Remember they were meant to be the leaders who would save everyone when the world ended and/or Jesus returned .. Or whatever their beliefs were. Both ridiculous & delusional! You can't make sense of insanity. There was no rational thoughts involved. 🙄

    • @piperdevi9028
      @piperdevi9028 21 день тому +19

      Psychopathy on display, esp Chad. Normal people would ask for a divorce. He didn't have the balls. Normal people offered to take Tylee and JJ. But Chad chose, and still chooses to PLAY GOD and believes by killing the so-called "dark" relatives, he's doing them a favor, they'd just be grateful and frolic in heaven. He's a Psychopathist PLAYING GOD with all of their lives, including Lori's. And she's a Sociopath. Alex was a Psychopathist too. All of it beyond the pale. 😖

    • @user-fr2iq9jm5z
      @user-fr2iq9jm5z 21 день тому +18

      Chad sounds like a teenage boy laughing and making stuff up to get the girl.

  • @nhmisnomer
    @nhmisnomer 21 день тому +46

    Inner Lori: I'm jailed and hes still free. I have be giggly and feminine and keep this ligh or he'll abandon me.
    Inner Chad: i have to keep her believing this BS or she'll confess and implicate me.
    Moral Lori & Chad: a howling void

    • @c.2538
      @c.2538 21 день тому

      Ha! It’s true they’re both trying to manipulate each other and as a result they both just sound like cackling idiots

    • @taylorburton7820
      @taylorburton7820 21 день тому +1

      Superb comment!

    • @shelbyhunkler9259
      @shelbyhunkler9259 21 день тому +5

      Totally! She's hopping mad and would like to rip him a new one but she knows she's being recorded and she can't. She has to Keep Sweet, as the Mormons say...

  • @lovelysphynx7396
    @lovelysphynx7396 21 день тому +32

    Giggling, laughing and joking while children are murdered in horrendous way, Tammy’s and Charles’s life’s were ended. They are sick sociopaths

    • @eyeswideopen8570
      @eyeswideopen8570 21 день тому +4

      And this recording shows just how sick they are!

  • @beckiehickman1312
    @beckiehickman1312 21 день тому +90

    This is sickening, Chad is such a creep and a liar. So 😢 for the families. How can someone believe in this creep? How can his children defend him? Pray for justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles and Tammy. So many people hurt by this insane false doctrine.

    • @mmeyerr7867
      @mmeyerr7867 21 день тому

      I have an estranged daughter who was brainwashed, drugged and raped. But I’m the monster. Just ask her.

  • @tammypierce3250
    @tammypierce3250 21 день тому +28

    Chad told Lori he had been texting Alex in the next life. Lori was asking so many questions about that that Chad couldn’t keep up with his lies. I think that’s why he was giggling. He couldn’t think fast enough to come up with lies fast enough to answer her questions. You could tell he didn’t know what to say much of the time.

  • @AChickAndADuck
    @AChickAndADuck 21 день тому +58

    Chad’s voice sounds SO MUCH like Warren Jeffs’. Disturbing.

    • @KF-hw4hu
      @KF-hw4hu 21 день тому +12

      Yes! I keep expecting him to tell Lori to, “keep sweet”.

    • @kellymckinney5975
      @kellymckinney5975 21 день тому +1

      @@KF-hw4hu lmfao

    • @nhmisnomer
      @nhmisnomer 21 день тому +4

      Yes! It's the male counterpoint to the ladies' fundie baby voice

    • @lyndseeharrison3134
      @lyndseeharrison3134 21 день тому

      Tooootally!

    • @melissaswinney5739
      @melissaswinney5739 20 днів тому +1

      I thought the same thing…creepy!

  • @Kristenm28
    @Kristenm28 21 день тому +85

    This was how the cops figured out that the kids were buried in the back yard. They really thought they were to smart for the rest of us to figure out the code.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 21 день тому +31

      It was Alex's cellphone that pinged in his backyard that alerted the police.

    • @nickinurse6433
      @nickinurse6433 21 день тому +9

      This was not how they figured out the kids were in the backyard. They had already found the kids and arrested Chad before this phone call. At the time of this phone call they are both in jail

    • @OriginalJamieAnne
      @OriginalJamieAnne 21 день тому +13

      I must have misheard, pretty sure they had said they hadn't heard this until afterwards.
      It was Alex phone pings that lead them to the back

    • @JMD621
      @JMD621 21 день тому +49

      @@nickinurse6433 No this was the day before the kids were found. Chad wasn’t in jail.

    • @Stacy-
      @Stacy- 21 день тому +36

      ​@@nickinurse6433- Chad & Lori weren't allowed to communicate while they were both in jail. This convo took place before Chad was arrested.

  • @lyndseeharrison3134
    @lyndseeharrison3134 21 день тому +23

    If Fozzy Bear and Eeyore had a baby, and that baby got dropped on its head. That baby would be Chad Daybell.

  • @TJP-tq4np
    @TJP-tq4np 21 день тому +92

    “Your honor, asking permission to pass out air sickness bags to the jurors.”

  • @WandaPoole-fl2ck
    @WandaPoole-fl2ck 21 день тому +50

    These two were planning a concrete foundation over the childrens graves, thinking and giggling they could get away with this heinous crime.

    • @Tawadeb
      @Tawadeb 20 днів тому +2

      Her children!!!!! She's looney

  • @msleatha3078
    @msleatha3078 21 день тому +12

    Yes… Imma repeat it…
    0:43 Lori references house renovations. She says that she has been watching “that extreme pools“, and talks about how people underestimate how long a renovation takes. This seems to be her expressing that their own project has hit a snag and is taking a long time to work through. Chad responds very literally to this and begins telling a story about one of Mark’s friends. Lori ignores this anecdote and persists in her euphemism, saying at 1:37 that there is “always something that comes up”. She then acts as though she is quoting the television show ( 1:42 ) from the host’s point of view and says “well we didn’t know when we dug in your backyard they were gonna find… whatever." The pronoun shift from "we" to "they", plus the rise on "know" and the barest emphasis on "whatever" is just the subtleist little clue that what she is actually saying is that we (Chad, Lori, and Alex) didn’t know when we dug in your backyard (Chad’s backyard, when they dug to bury the kids) that they (the police) were gonna find… whatever (bodies, ding ding ding ding!). In response, Chad laughs nervously and shuts up, probably hoping she doesn’t say too much. At this point, Lori tries to bury what she just said by strengthening her comparision to the pool-renovation show and over-talking, probably thinking she’s the smartest woman created (according to Chad) and that law enforcement (who she knows is listening) is too stupid to catch-on to the veiled references she is making and the "construction project" metaphor" she is about to launch.
    IMHO, of course

    • @AnneStewart-oe7rj
      @AnneStewart-oe7rj 21 день тому +2

      Excellent analysis! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @msleatha3078
      @msleatha3078 21 день тому +1

      @@AnneStewart-oe7rj Thanks! I am a retired school bus driver, and have overheard quite a few plots, in my time😊 Needless to say, as one who has spent a lifetime protecting children (mostly from themselves), I don't think much of these two. Let's just say I hope to God neither of them ever walks across in front of me while I'm behind a steering wheel

    • @Twinkle_Toes88
      @Twinkle_Toes88 16 днів тому

      Fantastic analysis!! 😊👍 Thank you! 🙏

  • @trixiemcfly8584
    @trixiemcfly8584 21 день тому +26

    To put it simply; Chad, and his children, seem like they may have some variety of delayed developments.

  • @Becca-xs6nr
    @Becca-xs6nr 21 день тому +41

    Just when I thought I had heard, read, saw in pics everything there is to know about this case, I am yet shocked once again. Then in comes a call 06/08/2020 where manipulative Chad is telling Lori that he is texting and getting answers from her DEAD brother Alex and they are laughing and giggling about the whole "project not being done", and tells her to write him (Alex) and he will write her back. Crazy sickening. Well ole Chaddy you supposedly saw a new promise land, but you didn't see you both getting tried for murder? Maybe you can go into a portal in your jail cell and text Alex about that. Let us all know what he says.

    • @UnintendedConsequences
      @UnintendedConsequences 21 день тому +6

      The only ones who are going to use Chad’s portal in the GreyBar Hotel are the other prisoners. 😬🤪

    • @eyeswideopen8570
      @eyeswideopen8570 21 день тому +4

      He must be a false prophet if his prophecy isn't coming true. 😀

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому +1

      I think that was just code for saying they were going to communicate under that guy's. That's before he went to jail so they couldn't really communicate that much anymore

    • @Jln258
      @Jln258 20 днів тому

      I think Alex is cleaning everything up from the other side.....

  • @bravepotato1305
    @bravepotato1305 21 день тому +62

    I hope he gets the chair, sorry people I’m normally against capital but he’s just sickening

    • @jabbermocky4520
      @jabbermocky4520 21 день тому

      Understand how you feel. But the messiah complex in Chad would enjoy being "martyred". Leave him to rot in solitary for the rest of his life. Plenty of company in his own head.

    • @Rhonda6boys
      @Rhonda6boys 21 день тому +4

      9:56 I was thinking the same thing
      What they did to those children was horrible and evil 11:19

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 21 день тому +7

      I read somewhere in Idaho it's the firing squad! And I agree with you.

    • @Figgatella
      @Figgatella 21 день тому +2

      Agree!!!

    • @vjr5261
      @vjr5261 21 день тому +4

      Firing squad in Idaho.

  • @MsChristinaLS
    @MsChristinaLS 21 день тому +26

    “99% chance that this soil could be bad”. she’s totally talking about burying the kids…

  • @bonniemarsing701
    @bonniemarsing701 21 день тому +96

    This does prove that Chad is controlling and brainwashing Lori.

    • @inthesun3884
      @inthesun3884 21 день тому +10

      I think it just might be?

    • @user-nl1xq2mu4b
      @user-nl1xq2mu4b 21 день тому

      Oh no...I think they are equal in their mental illness and take turns being in charge...after all they know all and they are so cool and ahead of everyone else. ... pure narcissistic behavior...

    • @c.2538
      @c.2538 21 день тому +5

      Yup that’s my takeaway too

    • @mickeykyker4837
      @mickeykyker4837 21 день тому +1

      It proves he will tell Lori exactly what he knows she wants to hear. That's after she drops the hints as to what she wants. At one point she says I'm here and can't be in charge, meaning normally she is. Regardless who's in charge they are both a couple of murderous monsters.

    • @bobbiescales3949
      @bobbiescales3949 21 день тому +5

      But where did she think her children were? Or she knew they were dead and he controlled her to be ok with that?

  • @kitt7082
    @kitt7082 21 день тому +48

    Sounds like Beavis and Butthead.

    • @imyourfriend8582
      @imyourfriend8582 21 день тому

      Yes!

    • @marytorbert5212
      @marytorbert5212 21 день тому

      Omg, Yes!!! 😂

    • @coldisle
      @coldisle 21 день тому

      Very disrespectful to Beavis and Butthead to associate them with these two imbeciles!! I hear you!

    • @erinstaley2885
      @erinstaley2885 21 день тому +1

      This actually made me LOL. You are so right!

  • @c.2538
    @c.2538 21 день тому +13

    I actually almost feel bad for Lori here. She knows the kids are buried on Chad’s property and yet at this time she‘s the only one talking on a jail phone. Still she’s telling Chad “I guess this was meant to happen”. Girl what?? And all lardmouth has to say is “muhrrrrrr yeaaaa I guesssss”

  • @kueblerwolf
    @kueblerwolf 21 день тому +45

    That he was claiming Alex texted him from beyond the grave and she believed him- these two are more whacked out than I ever realized and I already thought they were out to lunch.

    • @MaryGloede
      @MaryGloede 21 день тому +7

      Wonder where they sell cell phones beyond the veil. The beyond must have the technology to communicate with the natural world's technology. Who knew?

    • @dianeyvon
      @dianeyvon 21 день тому +7

      I thought surely I’d missed something and they aren’t discussing texting Alex after he died. I guess all the plans and details they’re talking about are code for other things. How can his kids hear these calls and still believe him?

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 21 день тому +1

      ​@@MaryGloedeis the reason the investigator couldn't read those few messages after Tammy's attempted shooting because they used burner phones? I was confused on that?

    • @LoudLilDucky
      @LoudLilDucky 21 день тому

      @@dianeyvon because I don’t think they’ve actually paid attention to this case because their father has told them that it’s all lies and those kids are brainwashed by Chad

    • @MaryGloede
      @MaryGloede 21 день тому

      @@Hrd4 I'm not sure, to be honest. It is confusing at times.

  • @natashafreeman2220
    @natashafreeman2220 21 день тому +78

    Lori was mad at Chad over a plan gone wrong. She need so much reassurance from this “prophet”

    • @bravepotato1305
      @bravepotato1305 21 день тому +3

      Sickening

    • @hereitis.2587
      @hereitis.2587 21 день тому +6

      How to scold the free man so he does the work to free you. Only he is too simple to care to know what to do.

  • @JaneJ993
    @JaneJ993 21 день тому +94

    Keep laughing chad....

    • @kathleenp9643
      @kathleenp9643 21 день тому +2

      Exactly!

    • @trina7274
      @trina7274 21 день тому +7

      He can laugh right up until they pull the switch!! (Or inject the needle)…. Good riddance… keep on laughing my dude…
      Dead man walking…. He can laugh all the way to the chair….

    • @monicawestrn
      @monicawestrn 21 день тому +6

      Firing squad is an option in Idaho

    • @Shifter22
      @Shifter22 20 днів тому

      Losers.. Omg..

  • @angelakadlec3437
    @angelakadlec3437 21 день тому +14

    Did we just hear their first “lovers spat”?
    The most passive aggressive convo I have ever forced myself to listen to

  • @TJP-tq4np
    @TJP-tq4np 21 день тому +48

    Oh good grief, the giggling!!

  • @carolt1323
    @carolt1323 21 день тому +11

    Chad’s voice sounds just like Jim Jones~ telling people “just drink the Kool-Aid.

  • @shieh.4743
    @shieh.4743 21 день тому +38

    These two having this conversation really confirms that Lori is questioning Chad's assurances of his "prophetic" timelines. But she still believes him. A guarantee of the "end date" of the project. Lori:. We killed all these people, so shouldn't the apocalypse start? Chad: He says it is all on schedule. 🤮

    • @ellabella6099
      @ellabella6099 21 день тому

      And the end of the world never happened…. Idiots .

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому

      I'm really not sure exactly what she's asking

    • @doragreen3887
      @doragreen3887 21 день тому +5

      This was before he was arrested so I wonder if it’s starting to dawn on her that he’s a fraud and she’s a nobody who killed her kids for no GD reason…

  • @anamericangirlmom475
    @anamericangirlmom475 21 день тому +69

    The 3% they're talking about is what they estimated Kay Woodcock would create. Instead she blew the whistle early on and created 100% of their problems.

    • @audrieking7109
      @audrieking7109 21 день тому +9

      Way to go Kay!!

    • @MissMolly3377
      @MissMolly3377 21 день тому +10

      I was thinking maybe it was Melanie Gibb, because she was talking to police, but it may have been Kay. Later in the conversation Chad refers to the 3%er as “she,” so it’s one or all of those women.

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 21 день тому +8

      ​@@MissMolly3377Or Heather Daybell because Chad and his children believed that Heather got Detective Hope to start investigating Tammy's death and JJ's disappearance.

    • @jenn3652
      @jenn3652 21 день тому +5

      Whoever it was he says "mute her effect and kind of kept her in her place for quite a while, to the point where it almost defused any value of her." Although it doesn't seem like any of those women were silent at any point. Maybe Melanie? He says "We only discussed the matter once with the trouble and thought we cut it off." Nope probably Kay or Heather.

    • @hayalistanbul5418
      @hayalistanbul5418 20 днів тому +1

      Yes, totally agree. They are talking about Kay. Kay started the search with the kids, that's why Lori the loinfire fighter got caught. And l think LV at first thought about giving JJ to Kay "as she was inspired" most likely Chad made her change her mind, he couldn't give up on 2 thousand SS money. Greedy, heartless creatures ...

  • @TiffinyHarrington
    @TiffinyHarrington 21 день тому +50

    The sleazy laughter…love that the JURY heard this disgusting display…

  • @rebcol4926
    @rebcol4926 21 день тому +72

    These two are incredibly bonkers.

  • @nanakoosa1
    @nanakoosa1 21 день тому +17

    Wow! So awkward. And she sounds very angry with him, underneath the giggles. Fascinating 🤔

    • @eyeswideopen8570
      @eyeswideopen8570 21 день тому +5

      She's not getting pampered and spoiled in jail.

    • @cherylbutler2452
      @cherylbutler2452 21 день тому +5

      Well yeah she's mad. He failed to get his neighbors to put their house up for bond to get Lori out of jail. 😂

    • @cherylbutler2452
      @cherylbutler2452 21 день тому +6

      ​@@eyeswideopen8570And obviously no Botox.

    • @eyeswideopen8570
      @eyeswideopen8570 21 день тому +9

      @@cherylbutler2452 lol, she's used to living the good life. Charles was a good provider, and so was Tammy. Chad and Lori killed their bread winners.

    • @eyeswideopen8570
      @eyeswideopen8570 21 день тому +2

      @@cherylbutler2452 I don't remember hearing this played at Lori's trial. This is gold.

  • @goatherder2980
    @goatherder2980 21 день тому +51

    How can Chad’s kids listen to this and think their Dad had no knowledge of the children’s murder and burial?

    • @barbmurraybabss
      @barbmurraybabss 21 день тому +7

      Cultists

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 21 день тому +4

      I doubt that they are listening.

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 21 день тому +5

      I wonder if their not listening! They all think they're so much above all this.

    • @dareneq1
      @dareneq1 21 день тому +6

      They don't listen to anything or anyone except Chad and Lori.

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 21 день тому +3

      @@dareneq1 that's what I was thinking too. That's a shame......they need to hear this about their dad they think is so innocent

  • @irisramos173
    @irisramos173 21 день тому +14

    “Ray” is in the contractor position. It is Alex. He is supposed to clean things up in the other side of veil but the project went south. They got caught. She is confronting him but is afraid to hear the real truth. He dangles carrots in front of her telling her he knows it will be alright and she is so beautiful….. Chad Daybell is a Mormon Charles Manson with manners.

  • @Brookeloun
    @Brookeloun 21 день тому +38

    Talking in code. Disgusting.

  • @barbpace-lamb
    @barbpace-lamb 21 день тому +48

    Are they giggling about the graves?

    • @Yachtnurse51
      @Yachtnurse51 21 день тому +8

      That’s part of it😪

    • @Warwck24
      @Warwck24 21 день тому +5

      Pretty much

    • @Warwck24
      @Warwck24 21 день тому +5

      Pretty much - 3 percent getting caught

    • @birtajonsdottir9910
      @birtajonsdottir9910 21 день тому +3

      They appear to be giggling about some construction show that Lori's watching, then construction in general. Then, they start mixing their metaphors. But once they start talking about digging, soil, etc., that's when the fbi got enough probable cause to go dig up these poor babies in Chad's backyard 😢

    • @hnormizzle
      @hnormizzle 20 днів тому +2

      @@birtajonsdottir9910They’d been planning the dig several days before this. It was ultimately the location of Alex’s phone on the day Tylee was last seen that led them to the backyard.

  • @Stacy-
    @Stacy- 21 день тому +49

    It was obvious that they were trying to hide the true meaning of this conversation. 🤔🙄

    • @mcole8897
      @mcole8897 21 день тому +2

      You nailed it!

    • @dareneq1
      @dareneq1 21 день тому +8

      They've hidden it from me. I'm confused.

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 21 день тому +3

      ​@@dareneq1LOL. I'm glad I'm not the only one! 😂❤

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li 21 день тому +5

      ​@Hrd4
      Me too. I'm not very good at cracking codes. If I were ever to find myself in one of those escape rooms, I'd never be able to find my way out on my own.
      🤣

    • @shewill8618
      @shewill8618 21 день тому +3

      Filled with innuendo and awkward laughter on Chad's end mostly. Lori was questioning the plan and the, what was assured by Chad, very good outcome for them both. She questioned if the outcome was only good for him with a hint of suspicion and sarcasm. Then he dropped assurances and flattery. How long after this, or was it before, that she ended up in a mental hospital?

  • @StellaFl
    @StellaFl 21 день тому +20

    Nate, when you interview Summer Shiflet at CrimeCon ask her why she did not include any photos of Tylee and JJ in that tribute video she made of Alex while she included photos of every other kid in the family. The kids had not been found yet when she posted it on UA-cam and she and her mother were saying at the time that there was no way Alex had done anything to them. There are also very few photos of Lori in that same video. Summer knew.......

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 21 день тому +1

      Maybe he could tell her to say hi to their hitman for me.

    • @hayalistanbul5418
      @hayalistanbul5418 20 днів тому +1

      Summer Shiftlet was a co-conspirator for the murd3r of Charles Vallow's, that's for sure...

  • @VanessaKittredge
    @VanessaKittredge 21 день тому +14

    It’s rather striking… both Chad and Lori were not working, and pretending to be an author and selling eight books a year does not count, they both were leaning totally on their spouses or in Lori’s case the kids social security money, and they both conspire to create this grandiose image of themselves. They are emotionally bereft and psychologically shallow. EVIL.

  • @audrieking7109
    @audrieking7109 21 день тому +12

    She definitely sounds so uncertain and rattled. I think she has her doubts and was scared he wasn't right.

  • @user-cc6ek2ps2o
    @user-cc6ek2ps2o 21 день тому +9

    He's called a SLUG for a good reason.

  • @citygirl729
    @citygirl729 20 днів тому +4

    They think they're so smart and so sly and the prosecution put it all together! Their whole timeline, their text messages and phone calls, literally everything!

  • @hilareenelson3950
    @hilareenelson3950 21 день тому +23

    Blueprints! Blueprints! Blueprints! When Lori talks about the down payment is she saying the kids were the down payment? That was the first thing I thought of. So heartbreaking.

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 21 день тому +10

      Yes, I thought so too. Maybe some sort of sacrifice?

    • @truthseeker2731
      @truthseeker2731 20 днів тому +1

      That’s exactly what I thought too!

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 13 днів тому

      sounds like they made a deal with an unsavoury spirit character requiring human sacrifices

  • @lisakelhoffer2348
    @lisakelhoffer2348 21 день тому +12

    I think they thought Alex would still kill people for them even though he was dead and I wander who else was going to be killed

  • @dstat74
    @dstat74 21 день тому +11

    Having six teenage grandkids, Chad’s emotional maturity is more consistent with an 11-12 yr old. They’re both so creepy and don’t seem to give a care Lori’s two children are buried on that property. In fact, they seem proud of it. I’m glad they’re so stupid.

  • @janetrathnau2645
    @janetrathnau2645 21 день тому +21

    Wow!!! Im listening to Chad talk and all I can say is "what a crock of BS". !!!!! Wth does she see in this duffas ??

    • @lovesilk1
      @lovesilk1 21 день тому +2

      Her malignant narcissism fed on his BS.

    • @terryschoeppe6251
      @terryschoeppe6251 21 день тому

      What does he see in her very shollow

  • @bono19531
    @bono19531 21 день тому +7

    They really don’t have anything to talk about except all this crazy stuff.smh!!

  • @moniqueratelle-babin2155
    @moniqueratelle-babin2155 21 день тому +19

    The way he speaks so slow and low..creepy. he sounds very immature and definitely not much experience with the ladies. Tammy was probably his first. When he started getting attention from some of the wacky religion ladies it went to his head and that was the start of his false bullcrap. People were listening. He kept shoveling it.

    • @HaveHimJolene
      @HaveHimJolene 21 день тому +3

      Very spot on. Poor Tammy putting up with this boy/man for way too long.

  • @GMAblue-lg5se
    @GMAblue-lg5se 21 день тому +26

    I wonder who was in the next batch

  • @gbbthrift7931
    @gbbthrift7931 21 день тому +23

    There is so much here. So much code speak. Wondering if 3% was in reference to Alex, and when he (what I am now thinking was self inflicted) died, instead of being the 3% fall guy, it was now 100% Chad and Lori’s problem. So 5 problems they have to deal with… 🙄 The most important part of this call is proving that Lori looked to Chad for guidance. She was always seeking his approval.

  • @laurahendricks5138
    @laurahendricks5138 21 день тому +13

    You guys have laughed through this whole conversation of murdering your kids and plotting against it, which tells me that this is premeditated and if I was on the jury, I wouldn’t be stupid. I would just put guilty. You wouldn’t have to ask me anything. I’d be guilty.

  • @linda-rt7dr
    @linda-rt7dr 21 день тому +29

    I think they were laughing cause they thought they got away with it with it

  • @Roastar2
    @Roastar2 21 день тому +9

    This is what serial killers sounds like

  • @kmktime
    @kmktime 21 день тому +11

    I can't wait for Dr John Matthias to analyze this one!!

  • @dmullins3772
    @dmullins3772 21 день тому +13

    Nate, when this is all over I do hope you write a book! Debbi from WA

  • @Scorpio1976
    @Scorpio1976 21 день тому +9

    IT JUST CLICKED THAT CHAD IS ACTUALLY PSYCHOTIC AND SHE IS A FOLLOWER OF HIM AND SHES ALSO INDEPENDENTLY PSYCHOTIC 😳

    • @Scorpio1976
      @Scorpio1976 21 день тому +3

      ….but fit to stand trial

    • @HKavarana
      @HKavarana 20 днів тому

      At sentencing the judge said she was diagnosed with "delusion disorder with hyper religiosity and personality disorder with narcissistic features." Sounds about right.

  • @laurameyer5697
    @laurameyer5697 21 день тому +20

    When they compare paintball gun to rifle they should not look at sides of guns but compare how they look when staring down the barrel.

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 21 день тому

      How do you know Tammy didn’t see it’s side profile when he ran back?

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 21 день тому

      I was thinking the same, he was facing her standing between her and the door and trying to shoot her.

  • @Missmarple007
    @Missmarple007 21 день тому +33

    No more Hawaii for you😂

    • @Stacy-
      @Stacy- 21 день тому +6

      Oh but you forget, they have "portals" to take them wherever. 🤣🤣

    • @chud2070
      @chud2070 21 день тому

      ​@Stacy- I can just picture Chad hudled by his toilet, telling his cell mate not to bother him while he's in his portal. Haha 😂

    • @cherylclark135
      @cherylclark135 21 день тому +1

      😂

    • @Missmarple007
      @Missmarple007 21 день тому +1

      @@Stacy- I don’t think they’ll be seeing Hawaii ever again

    • @yankeecitygirl
      @yankeecitygirl 21 день тому +4

      Remember how pissed the Hawaiian judge was that these haoles came to her jurisdiction to cause trouble?

  • @MissMolly3377
    @MissMolly3377 21 день тому +5

    So @
    7:46 Lori says “I know they wanna work on their project, and they’re not too happy I’m in here…” referring to Tammy, Tylee, JJ. I thought maybe Alex too, but the way they’re talking here, she hasn’t “spoken” to Alex, so I believe she is talking about Tammy, Tylee, and JJ.
    13:58 Chad says “I mean we only discussed the matter with the trouble once and I thought we cut it off and we did well, and now, the problem is kind of causing its own trouble (giggles) but so…
    Lori responds, Right, but there’s other things on the project where when I’m going back over it, right, that I could have easily done or been inspired to do to avoid a lot of the issues that are going to come up with that.
    Chad responds…yeah
    Lori responds….that we weren’t made aware of, you see what I’m saying?
    Chad responds mm hmm
    I believe she was talking about taking out someone, such as Melanie Gibb, or Zulema, possibly Kay…however, at the beginning Chad said they only discussed the matter with the trouble once, so I think it was Melanie Gibb. It also leads me to believe that he is saying that Melanie Gibb or Zulema know exactly what happened.
    21:12 Lori says “it will be Cholo and not solo?”
    Now, go back to the police car, where chad and Emma were talking, Chad to,d Emma his password was “Cholo1105” for his accounts. Also, Chad did his missionary in NJ, within the Hispanic community, look up the word Cholo…they thought they were gang leaders.

  • @carlatownsend5211
    @carlatownsend5211 21 день тому +20

    Been wondering why he went to trial. He loves being the center of attention? When he gets the death penalty, he will call himself a Martyr. As if Jesus needs Chad's help to come back. How could she, or anyone, think that dullard was worth following. He is the ringleader for sure, and now everyone, including the jurors know it

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому +3

      Well he had nothing to do with Alex attempted murder on Joseph Ryan's life who eventually ended up an unattended death in his own apartment after 10 years battling with Lori

  • @patriciafoster3347
    @patriciafoster3347 21 день тому +19

    I’m just gobsmacked. They thought they would get away with it. Seriously?

  • @klutzykate123
    @klutzykate123 21 день тому +19

    Lorie sounds pretty worried and is annoyed that Chad is saying the things she wants to her…..and making a big joke out of the timeline while she’s in jail wanting to get out

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому +1

      Was this before or after she spent all that time in the psych ward? It was before it must be. She was the activities director there and enjoyed great popularity amongst the other mentally ill

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688 21 день тому +13

    The contractor misses her. He knows her. Cringy - Creepy. Two killers talking in code.
    Blueprints.

  • @michellerichard2737
    @michellerichard2737 21 день тому +13

    This is exactly like the Emperor who wore no clothes. These people are so damn delusional!! 😂😂

  • @jdoveyk9422
    @jdoveyk9422 20 днів тому +5

    5 problems… 5 deaths Charles, Tylee, JJ, Tammy, Alex

  • @maryserecky3762
    @maryserecky3762 21 день тому +14

    So he has been texting with a dead man. Who texts back. Wtffff

    • @ellabella6099
      @ellabella6099 21 день тому +3

      It’s madness 😂If it wasn’t so evil .

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 13 днів тому +1

      lol inquiring minds want to know

  • @Missmarple007
    @Missmarple007 21 день тому +21

    How do three grown adults murder four people, leave a trail of evidence behind like they'll never get caught? What r they thinking

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 21 день тому +5

      That the world would end soon.

    • @Stacy-
      @Stacy- 21 день тому +11

      There was no rational thoughts involved...
      They thought moving to Hawaii would somehow stop the investigation. They aren't the brightest bulbs. 😂

    • @kathleenp9643
      @kathleenp9643 21 день тому +10

      Loinfire….is what they were thinking with.🤢

    • @Crystal-be4ph
      @Crystal-be4ph 21 день тому +2

      "It doesn't count for them" - words spoken a few days ago by Lori according to witness testimony

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому +2

      Don't forget Joseph Ryan

  • @shelbyhunkler9259
    @shelbyhunkler9259 21 день тому +6

    Secret Squirrel Code Talkers...

  • @beckylynn209
    @beckylynn209 21 день тому +12

    He's like a nervous little boy talking to a pretty girl with his giggling after everything he say's.. And then him saying everything is gonna work out?! It was shown to him?? Lol! I hardly think so! 🤨

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 13 днів тому

      it was so gross when he called her "Lola" the mind reels

  • @AA-ws5xk
    @AA-ws5xk 21 день тому +18

    Giggling serial killers…

  • @pihalcott7066
    @pihalcott7066 21 день тому +45

    Disgusting. Like they have done nothing wrong.

  • @13mainstreet18
    @13mainstreet18 21 день тому +45

    Chad’s voice is doltish.

  • @leticiaarbore2979
    @leticiaarbore2979 21 день тому +19

    I wonder what he is seeing now? Tell me about your plans Chubby? How’s the blueprints working for you? Is the storm on fire? 🤮

  • @user-nl1xq2mu4b
    @user-nl1xq2mu4b 21 день тому +12

    The height of delusion and immaturity...they actually think they are so cool

  • @denisegray1903
    @denisegray1903 21 день тому +17

    THE PLAYER GOT PLAYED

  • @02jaguilar
    @02jaguilar 21 день тому +19

    Chad is going to be found guilty if he was smart he will plead guilty to avoid the death penalty

    • @Yachtnurse51
      @Yachtnurse51 21 день тому +2

      Maybe he’s still trying to believe that the kingdom will finally beam down and rescue him🤩

    • @cyntheathremblat158
      @cyntheathremblat158 21 день тому +3

      let's not tell him!!!

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 21 день тому +2

      @@cyntheathremblat158 🤐🤐🤐

    • @Soupy1406
      @Soupy1406 21 день тому +2

      Even if he gets the death penalty, it will be decades before he gets executed. I'm thinking he will live into his 70's before he faces any death sentence.

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому

      There's not going to be any execution there will be so much litigation before then and he will be enjoying all his time in the courtroom dressing up in his little white preacher shirts for decades to come he's got it all planned out

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688 21 день тому +16

    What is up with the tee heeing - chuckling at the end of every sentence out of Chad's mouth?

  • @CrystalSypolt-pi2tb
    @CrystalSypolt-pi2tb 21 день тому +18

    They make me physically ill!

  • @AGENT99937
    @AGENT99937 21 день тому +8

    Chad’s laugh is utterly diabolical.

  • @chacha-Ce83
    @chacha-Ce83 21 день тому +13

    So they were going to build over the graves of her daughter and adopted son JJ to protect themselves selfishly from what inevitably was coming the cops beat them to the plan😮i didn’t know that

    • @Brookeloun
      @Brookeloun 21 день тому +1

      Omg,wow, I hadn't thought of that either

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 21 день тому +2

      Seriously? This is exactly what it was. How come nobody has put 2 and 2 together?

  • @Buddhabellie
    @Buddhabellie 21 день тому +13

    I don't know who does your thumbnails, but I love this one....

  • @imyourfriend8582
    @imyourfriend8582 21 день тому +8

    Oh I see how it is. Lori's mad at everyone but herself cause she didn't plan on her butt landing in jail. Good thing she doesn't have a big head, right, Chad?

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 21 день тому +1

      On day one it was Lori that went after Chad I will never forget when he walked away she said what's the matter are you afraid of me

  • @barbpace-lamb
    @barbpace-lamb 21 день тому +44

    They both are very ill

    • @JMD621
      @JMD621 21 день тому +13

      No, they’re both evil.

    • @MaggieMay757
      @MaggieMay757 21 день тому

      EV-ILL

    • @lovesilk1
      @lovesilk1 21 день тому +2

      Ill? Evil.

    • @mydogky
      @mydogky 20 днів тому

      not ill friggen nuts

  • @Truth17John17
    @Truth17John17 20 днів тому +3

    12:17 WHO said "that wouldn't be a problem". WHO are they talking about?

    • @89helybely
      @89helybely 20 днів тому +2

      GOD - THEY are THAT DELUSIONAL

    • @andjeo1008
      @andjeo1008 17 днів тому

      Alex and god, I guess.

  • @Truth17John17
    @Truth17John17 21 день тому +3

    Chad giggles incessantly because it's tell-tale duper's delight. He can't help himself. He thinks he has everyone fooled!

  • @debbiea9262
    @debbiea9262 21 день тому +8

    It doesn’t take a detective to figure out they were talking in code 🙄 they truly thought they were smarter than everyone.