I am safekeeping an XM turbo c.t. VSX in my garage, which I have sent to retire in dignity. It was my daily driver for many years, and I have sweet memories of summer holidays in Cold Hawaii with it. I live 600 km away and its comfort and strong engine made those long trips a piece of cake. Unfortunately, with the years, repairs were needed, and parts became rare, so I garaged it, and it was replaced with a C5 V6 Automatique. Speaking of complicated cars, the C5 is laden with comfort features that cannot be repaired anymore, since the knowledge is gone and parts unavailable. My XM has both frames, the steel beams holding the engine, repaired by professional body work to pass the German MOT. Your video placed chill in my heart, and I hope in spring, when the XM shall live up again, it does not greet me with corroded a-pillar feet as yours does, or with weak suspension domes in the front. Wish me luck, I am amazed over your skills. I want to see more. Maybe tomorrow I'll crawl under the car and check these areas!!
I drive a C5 II V6 of 2005 and e.g. they dont know what causes the AFIL to cease working and there is no way of getting parts, when the fault is determined......also its almost impossible to find trim parts, not even a tiny V6 emblem on the left fender, or more important the seal underneath the rear window. I have a feeling they lost interest in older cars.
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@MarkusCheong-Wallrich I see. That's true for the XM since 2011 too. Same solution for both : repairing by yourself, diagnosis tools are widely available, and buying parts from donor cars. "Ne fournissons plus" (we don't provide anymore, NFP) already appeared a century ago in Citroën spare parts catalogues for cars aged of 10 years, in the 1930s : Citroën always did it that way :-(
Unfortunately I am not talented to repair my car myself and as I live in the city center there is also no space. However, in the northern German countryside I have my mechanic, being once owner of a Citroen Dealership. He has most things in stock and nowadays only serves his long-term customers. Unfortunately, this jewel is in his late seventies, and it is only a matter of time until he will cease to work on cars. After one 2 CV, 2 CX, 1 Picasso, 1 XM and 2 C5 my actual car will be my last classic Citroen. I dread this moment to arrive.
Risk of fire is something that makes me hesitant to do welding on cars. If someone was keeping an eye that nothing catches on fire, that would be great. Even after completing the job there may be something smoldering inside the welded location, it's good to keep an eye for some time after finishing. Anyways, great job!
Great with this level of detail of the repair. It is inspiring and decreases the activation energy when you are taking steps to get out into the garage and get som work done :)
Seppo, you are an absolute artist! I would be petrified during the process and wouldn't be able to keep the structure and picture of how it is supposed to be. Thanks for the video!!!!
Such a good feeling cutting scabby metal and welding in lovely solid clean metal, I find myself wandering into the garage in the evening after a days welding just to look at my work, makes me feel good👍🏼
Great patience and a good deal of bravery.. Too many layers! But, with your calm and systematic approach you will make a good strong repair. Keep making these videos they're entertaining.
Wow…Honestly I am impressed. Corrosion damage to that extent is very intimidating to me. Your methodical approach makes a daunting task seem manageable. Still well beyond my skills 😁 Nicely done 👍🍻
I wouldn't mind longer vids.. I was really getting into the process and how you were forming the plates.. Then it finished!!😂Looking forward to part 2👍
@ I did. The vision to see how you can tear apart so much of a car and still put it back together, with nothing but skill, sheet metal and a welder really is captivating. Many people can be a mechanic, not many people can do bodywork like that. That is proper skill.
I liked what you did, and it was interesting to see how tie in all the layers. I also think you should weld together those layers that were not welded to give more strength. You are doing great. I am looking forward to seeing this progress.
I love watching your videos, and who cares if your welding skills are not professional, at least you are willing to have a go and you get the car back on the road with an MOT so it must be of a decent standard. Keep going the way you are Seppo, I will always look forward to any videos that you upload. 😎👍
Keep it coming on Citroen rust fight! You need to get a good metal brake for those angles, sacrificial piece of fire proof fabric would go a long way in that repair so you can really get those strong welds to the floor pan!
Very interesting to see these work steps in such detail. Hopefully owners of other parallel models will also find this video. Of course, the Peugeot 605 also has the same platform, but the Peugeot 607 model also looks the same. It seems that the same platform has been in use until -2010.
i like very much how you film this. grinding and welding is quite boring but the falling apart of the pieces en getting back together is very satisfying. its very well balanced i must say!
jup…just bought an xm station thinking ‘ahh it won’t be so bad’…………..until i started poking with a screwdriver……all around the bottom (plus the ‘line’ where you jack up the car) it’s rusted out…..if i could cry i would……
Love the content man, trying to get myself ready to weld the floor and add some seatbelt anchors to the 67 fairlane, might leave the latter to a pro! Seeing the method really helps !
pleaseeee make more video’s like this!!! …i have bought an xm station with even worse rustproblems!!! the whole bottom below the doors is rusted.. this is a BIGGG help for me because i don’t even know were to start😢
Mildly upsetting to see a lovely XM like that, it's probably our fault when we used to clip on the jacking point covers on a new car prep or PDI back in the day when they were brand new 😢
It does look complicated. Instead of several layers of thin metal, can a nice thick piece of steel be welded in where the jacking point is, then just use the usual thinner metal on the outside? I know nothing by the way, just my thoughts.
The jacking points on an XM are terrible. Never use them! They are too weak and bend causing dirt to get in between the different layers of metal. And it is very complicated structures. The inner wheel arc trims accumulate mud and water behind the to make things worse. This has killed lot of XM:s that was totally ok in all other regards. Expensive and hard to fix properly.
I love that there is no music in your videos, there is nothing worse than these royalty free youtube songs on most channels :D
More layers than a Paris croissant! 🥐
Loving the increased video output! I hope it's working in your favor👍
Agreed. Quickly becoming my favourite videos to watch.
I'm hooked!@@ThaddeusFairbanks55
I am safekeeping an XM turbo c.t. VSX in my garage, which I have sent to retire in dignity. It was my daily driver for many years, and I have sweet memories of summer holidays in Cold Hawaii with it. I live 600 km away and its comfort and strong engine made those long trips a piece of cake. Unfortunately, with the years, repairs were needed, and parts became rare, so I garaged it, and it was replaced with a C5 V6 Automatique. Speaking of complicated cars, the C5 is laden with comfort features that cannot be repaired anymore, since the knowledge is gone and parts unavailable. My XM has both frames, the steel beams holding the engine, repaired by professional body work to pass the German MOT. Your video placed chill in my heart, and I hope in spring, when the XM shall live up again, it does not greet me with corroded a-pillar feet as yours does, or with weak suspension domes in the front. Wish me luck, I am amazed over your skills. I want to see more. Maybe tomorrow I'll crawl under the car and check these areas!!
Which features ? Knowledge is not lost.
I drive a C5 II V6 of 2005 and e.g. they dont know what causes the AFIL to cease working and there is no way of getting parts, when the fault is determined......also its almost impossible to find trim parts, not even a tiny V6 emblem on the left fender, or more important the seal underneath the rear window. I have a feeling they lost interest in older cars.
@MarkusCheong-Wallrich I see.
That's true for the XM since 2011 too.
Same solution for both : repairing by yourself, diagnosis tools are widely available, and buying parts from donor cars.
"Ne fournissons plus" (we don't provide anymore, NFP) already appeared a century ago in Citroën spare parts catalogues for cars aged of 10 years, in the 1930s : Citroën always did it that way :-(
Unfortunately I am not talented to repair my car myself and as I live in the city center there is also no space. However, in the northern German countryside I have my mechanic, being once owner of a Citroen Dealership. He has most things in stock and nowadays only serves his long-term customers. Unfortunately, this jewel is in his late seventies, and it is only a matter of time until he will cease to work on cars. After one 2 CV, 2 CX, 1 Picasso, 1 XM and 2 C5 my actual car will be my last classic Citroen. I dread this moment to arrive.
do it! fix it! :D
I like the level of detail/progression/length of this video. …and I love me some XM content. What a puzzle.
Risk of fire is something that makes me hesitant to do welding on cars. If someone was keeping an eye that nothing catches on fire, that would be great. Even after completing the job there may be something smoldering inside the welded location, it's good to keep an eye for some time after finishing. Anyways, great job!
Your fabrication and welding skills have improved a lot since I first started watching you, great work keep it up 👍
Great with this level of detail of the repair. It is inspiring and decreases the activation energy when you are taking steps to get out into the garage and get som work done :)
I like in depth vids. Specially about chassis and body repairs
Enjoyed that 👍
Seppo, you are an absolute artist! I would be petrified during the process and wouldn't be able to keep the structure and picture of how it is supposed to be. Thanks for the video!!!!
Such a good feeling cutting scabby metal and welding in lovely solid clean metal, I find myself wandering into the garage in the evening after a days welding just to look at my work, makes me feel good👍🏼
me too!
Wow, what timing! I bought a XM V6, 1991, that was last on the road in 2006. This is exactly one of the jobs on the list
Great patience and a good deal of bravery.. Too many layers! But, with your calm and systematic approach you will make a good strong repair. Keep making these videos they're entertaining.
Yes, very usefull to see how you do this 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great video - can't wait to see the finished repair 😁
Wow…Honestly I am impressed. Corrosion damage to that extent is very intimidating to me. Your methodical approach makes a daunting task seem manageable. Still well beyond my skills 😁
Nicely done 👍🍻
Thank you!
Great fabrication Seppo...well done. Always interesting to watch rust repair/fabrication/welding.
Always good to see a bit of rust repair, thanks.
I wouldn't mind longer vids.. I was really getting into the process and how you were forming the plates.. Then it finished!!😂Looking forward to part 2👍
Superb work in the face of some egregious construction of a monocoque. This is my favourite video content.
Glad you enjoyed it
@ I did. The vision to see how you can tear apart so much of a car and still put it back together, with nothing but skill, sheet metal and a welder really is captivating.
Many people can be a mechanic, not many people can do bodywork like that. That is proper skill.
I liked what you did, and it was interesting to see how tie in all the layers. I also think you should weld together those layers that were not welded to give more strength. You are doing great. I am looking forward to seeing this progress.
I have followed you for something, and the rust and welding has become a lot better from the first rust repair you have done 👍
The more the merrier for me when it comes to welding Seppo.
Nice work! Really like to watch this kind of work and to learn from your experiences 👍 Keep up your great work and channel!
Gracias por tu video, soy un feliz propietario de un Citroen XM aqui en Argentina !!!
I love watching your videos, and who cares if your welding skills are not professional, at least you are willing to have a go and you get the car back on the road with an MOT so it must be of a decent standard. Keep going the way you are Seppo, I will always look forward to any videos that you upload. 😎👍
Thanks 👍
Great video and that will be a good strong repair when finished
excellent.
Good job
Keep it coming on Citroen rust fight! You need to get a good metal brake for those angles, sacrificial piece of fire proof fabric would go a long way in that repair so you can really get those strong welds to the floor pan!
Very interesting to see these work steps in such detail. Hopefully owners of other parallel models will also find this video. Of course, the Peugeot 605 also has the same platform, but the Peugeot 607 model also looks the same. It seems that the same platform has been in use until -2010.
Ahh Crispy Chicken :D We have to notice that you are doing more and more complex welding jobs as channels go! Good job!
Blimey Seppo, you are braver than me! That is a pretty complicated repair for sure.
Looks very complicated. And here I was thinking about getting one of these 😂
Get one that has never been lifted there... :P
Bare fortsæt. Det er super fedt! 😃
i like very much how you film this. grinding and welding is quite boring but the falling apart of the pieces en getting back together is very satisfying. its very well balanced i must say!
Cool, thanks
First-class great to watch welding
Very classic and vicious point of all XM's. They love rusting there without showing anything until it's way too late.
jup…just bought an xm station thinking ‘ahh it won’t be so bad’…………..until i started poking with a screwdriver……all around the bottom (plus the ‘line’ where you jack up the car) it’s rusted out…..if i could cry i would……
Great video. I enjoyed it
Thank you for getting that gem of a car back on the road
I will do my best!
Great video. More please.😊
Nice work, good approach!
Detailed is good👍
Nice vid. I do like the cutting, welding and grinding vids. It looked like the editing has taken a step up with the swipes etc.
Love the content man, trying to get myself ready to weld the floor and add some seatbelt anchors to the 67 fairlane, might leave the latter to a pro! Seeing the method really helps !
Fantastic video brilliant car
Nice device! 💪
Tricky work.
The structure is really over complex and French!
Can see how the rust would get in between all the layers.
Amazing job
Enjoyed that
A grinder and some paint, makes you the welder that you ain't 😂
pleaseeee make more video’s like this!!!
…i have bought an xm station with even worse rustproblems!!!
the whole bottom below the doors is rusted..
this is a BIGGG help for me because i don’t even know were to start😢
Super godt,
Fedt at følge med i forløbet og se hvor udfordringer løses..😊
Brilliant.
Where your paint brush is now, did you forget to weld the end? 17:35
Nice work :)
This was a very, very enjoyable video! Fortsæt det gode arbejde!
that looks like a nightmare 6:32, the more panels you remove the more rust appears
More more more ❤❤❤❤
Lots of progress! Build back stronger if you can. Is there room to add some box section or triangulation?
I will probably weld the inner layer to the bracket and not the outer layer... then it will be way stronger
X tra
M etal. 😮
Yep, they do that...😢
Citroen engineer #1: how many layers of steel do we want in the corner?
Citroen engineer #2: yes.
I had an old Datsun that when I tried to jack it up to fix a puncture the jack creaked and then shot up into the sill and the car came back down again
All this Citroen jeopardy on UA-cam at the moment. Not sure I can take it
Mildly upsetting to see a lovely XM like that, it's probably our fault when we used to clip on the jacking point covers on a new car prep or PDI back in the day when they were brand new 😢
What a horrible mess that was. Excellent fabrication work 👏
Yes it was
It does look complicated. Instead of several layers of thin metal, can a nice thick piece of steel be welded in where the jacking point is, then just use the usual thinner metal on the outside? I know nothing by the way, just my thoughts.
Yea... but I like to try to recreate the structures... but I am thinking about making this a bit more strong then orignally.
It certainly kept you peeling the layers back like an old onion, that's a given, makes me wonder what else it's got hiding behind other sections... :S
Bliv ved med at vise det her. Så længe der er lidt forskelligt at se på så er alt godt
money in the bank, every day it increases in value will be as sought after like an SM
iI t puzzles me why people weld metal together then grind 30% away even when it will never be seen.
yea... but it looks better... :)
Jeg hade svejset de plader sammen, det bliver så meget stærkere.
Most V6 XMs have the same issue, collapsing jack points. The engine and gearbox are too heavy.
im starting to belive his wife do all the heavy lifting, when he do a cutaway on the video.
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The jacking points on an XM are terrible. Never use them! They are too weak and bend causing dirt to get in between the different layers of metal. And it is very complicated structures. The inner wheel arc trims accumulate mud and water behind the to make things worse. This has killed lot of XM:s that was totally ok in all other regards. Expensive and hard to fix properly.
exactly
Good job