Meet Canada's New Largest Warships ever built since WWII: The River-class Destroyers
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Canda's new River-class destroyers, the Largest Warships ever built since WWII. The names of the first three ships in the fleet are HMCS Fraser, HMCS Saint-Laurent, and HMCS Mackenzie. The first Destroyer, HMCS Fraser, is expected to be delivered in the early 2030s, with the final ship completed by 2050.
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26 years to build 3 ships, and they are destroyers you've got to be kidding. It's a bloody good thing we don't need an aircraft carrier.
Aint that the truth. Like what the hell are we doing.
Considering we’re short 16,000 military personnel who’s going to operate these ships ?
Ghosts
Convoy Supporters? 😉
Hardly obsolete. They’ll be among the most sophisticated surface warships in the World.
The first one is projected to be completed in 2033 (almost a decade from now). With the rapid evolution of naval warfare as seen in Ukraine, the River class will likely need design changes to stay relevant.
@@nitroxide17 So, what arre your suggestions? There is still lots of time.
@@abrahamdozer6273 I don’t have any good suggestions… it’s a hard problem to solve.
@@nitroxide17no, this problem is solved. What gets obsolete is the systems, not the platform. These systems will be updated so the last ship will have up to date electronics. Everyone does this. The advanced hull has no predictable obsolescence factor.
@@nitroxide17 That's why they are doing them in batches of 3. Each batch of 3 will likely have upgrades based on technology over the previous 3. UK version was first started in 2017, won't be ready for trials until 2026, so the RCN ones are right on schedule.
these ships will be 20 y/o before they even hit the water lmao
How do you figure? The steel has only been cut on the first one, and due to be done by 2030 ish. Also the equipment and design may change as needed. Do you think that when you order a ship, that it comes off a giant sales lot and they just put it in the water? Virtually every submarine and ship go through the same process.
@watcher63034 no obviously not it doesn't take a day to build a ship however it will take upward of 10 to 15 years before 2 of these are built and we're in a tech boom rn and if a war breaks out these ships will be outdated before they even touch the water. They need to complete these in 2 years per ship or 5 in 10 years. I'd the plan is to have upwards of 13 of these ships it'll take 50 years or more to even get half of that number and it'll be pointless.
@@watcher63034 I don't think you quite understand what my comment was
@@wesleyleeman3242 The problem with building all ships at once is this. First they all need upgrades at the same time and that would require multiple building facilities. secondly those experienced workers would retire and leave the workforce stagnant. You need a steady building cycle with refits and new designs so that ships are always being built and/or maintained. Its easier financially too.
Hello world, this is Canada, can you please not start WW 3 until after 2030, we simply are not ready.
Wait 20 more years as the first destroyer is commissioned in 2030 but we will still have 14 to build. And when the last one is built, the first is obsolete and needs a mid life refit.
We will only start ww3 if We Don't get the stanely cup back in Canada by then
LMFAO!!!
there's always a Covid era smartass left
Cynical Canadians, who else would be unhappy that the RCN is recapitaliing the Canadian surface warfare fleet.
By the way, they’re pronounced “River” class - not Rye -ver. Rhymes with liver as in the “River” Thames - as these will be named after Canadian rivers
He just pirated this off the Royal Canadian Navy web site anyway, hopefully you tube isn't dumb enough to monetize it 😊
I think it is an AI program. Too many people using it nowadays.
@@watcher63034 And 'river' is such an obscure word, no AI program could ever be expected to get it right
@@dgthe3 The voice sounds pretty good compared to 10 years ago.
For some reason, I want to make a pastrami on rye sandwich.
It’s hot today, maybe we should go for a swim in the rye ver,
Ham on rye is good too!
River, rhymes with "Give 'er"
about time. Hopefully they will build it.
Canada is about to stop saying _sorry_ .
Canada needs these ships ASAP not over the next 28 years. Bu the time the last ship is delivered the first one will be ready for scrap!
The way the naval technology is rapidly changing, the last of the class will probably have very different (better) systems than the first, and by the time those are operating, the first ones will already be going in for major refits. That system of constant upgrades seems to just be the way of things.
You don't understand..we weren't ready in ww2 either..we ramped up..really quick
Its not the largest built in Canada yet cause we need to wait 6 years before the first one is actually built, just saying. Oh and only if we are on time 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
will there be a bear trap?
okay
These are the Fraser Class - Canadian warships are traditionally named after the first of class.
Fraser st Lawrence etc are river names in Canada. So instead of naming them like hmcs Fraser River they named the class river and all the destroyers after Canadian rivers!
They are British designed Frigets not distroyers what f**king joke.
Nearling the sizes of the cruisers although😊
Looks like a big drone target.
Looks like you have no clue what you're talking about
“Long-range rapid maritime kamikaze drones occupy a separate strategic niche in Ukraine’s military operations.”These robotic boats allow Ukraine to protect its grain corridor, amplify domination in the Black Sea, and engage distant enemy naval targets.
Drones are effective at sinking ships.
@@steveverhoef5667 effective at sinking Russian ships*
Agreed 100% the Russia ships haven’t been updated since launched. Drone tech is advancing fast.
I’m sure this new ship will take out the first two wolf packs 10m naval drones.
About time!
Canada the best country in the world 🇨🇦
Lol
At this point I wouldn’t want that anywhere near Ukraine equipped Navy. It needs a drone escort.
Except it’s military equipment!
This what you get when you let the shipbuilding industry atrophy. From the keel of HMCS Halifax being laid down to HMCS Ottawa being commissioned was 9 years. That was 12 ships. Now it is going to take 20 years to lay down and commission 15 ships. This was created by successive governments and a population that talks about national defence but won’t ante up when needed or when they are shamed into it. The result is what we see now. By the way I did serve in what was called Maritime Command from 1988 to 1994. Leading Seaman Duncan Dewar. Served in the Reserve with Cararaqui and was part of the recommissioning crew with HMCS Prevost. Went to sea on HMCS Porte St Jean and HMCS MacKenzie.
At 27 Knot itis a Frigate
Why do you keep saying ryever? the I is slient. That is a good way to piss off a lot of RCN personal.
"Largest Warships ever built since WWII" .... Hmmm. Thinking about that statement.
Canada never built warships this large during WWII. The largest ships built in Canada were four Triibal Class displacing 1854 tons.
The new ships weigh in at 8000 tones and are 4-1/3 times bigger than those. The 280 Class destroyers built between 1969 ad 1973 weighed in at 5,00 tons. (we'll ignore the 22,000 ton AORS also bullt around that time) so they are the biggest built since 1970.
And the new Protecteur is the largest not these and yes it's classed as a warship unlike the asterix
Yup.I rode on her namesake as a stoker.
She was built to warship standards back in 1969.
I think they mean in number of ships, not necessarily the size of the ship
@@viper29ca That's not true either. The post WWII Canadian River Class Destroyer program stretching between 1950 and 1964 produced 20 ships. The sailors of that generation referred to them as "Cadillacs" as they were lntra modern and far more comfortable for their crew than the older wartime destroyers that overlepped them until 1965. HMCS St. Laurent thru HMCS Nipigon
Yeah pretty sure they are the largest ever, even if you called them "destroyers", which they arent.
Ont rie pus 2038 14 ans après les conflits
Be afraid beavers.... 🇨🇦🤟🫡
Stupid AI robot voice continually mispronounces "river" as "ryvur" .. too annoying to listen to .. so I muted the sound .. was better but not good ..
Phalanx should be installed as a back-up to ESSM missiles.
No ESSM, 2x RAM
@@Spectro108 ESSM in the Mk 41s.
Doesn't need phalanx, it has 2, 30mm guns on the rear quarters, as well as 2 X 21 cell RAM missiles in the stern deck. Couple that with ESSMs and SM2s in the Mk41s, it will be well protected.
And before you say the Phalanx is better, it actually isn't. Phalanx puts out a crap ton of lead, but that is because it is only a 20mm bullet, and has to actually strike the target to be effective. These 30mm rounds are not only bigger, hit harder, but have a longer range, but can also be fitted with air burst shells. Therefore only has to get near the target and explode as opposed to actually striking the target with the round itself.
They should be outfitted with many more AA/anti ship/anti drone guns. Russia is having problems now with defending their ships against naval drones because they do not have enough small caliber guns. The NATO ships in the Red Sea are also blowing through expensive missiles at a significant rate shooting down missiles - we need something more plentiful & cheaper to fire over an extended period.
@@robertdickson9319 Not sure what an anti ship missile is going to do to a drone. But for AA, there are 2 30mm guns, both can fire air burst rounds. 2, 21 cell RAM missile launchers, and 24 Mk41 missile cells that can be armed however you want. Arm them all with quad packed ESSM and that is 96 more missiles. 138 missiles total, plus the 2 30mm guns, and the main 127 mm gun can be used to defend from an air attach as well. Not to mention the other defensive systems on board.
Ship will be fine
River ,,,, not riever
in five years, amazing, other country seem to take 2 to 3 years
from 2025 to 2050, life of a boat, its aboit 30 years, longer than that, shortage of spare parts
the are too big for what we realy can afford
but, this our reality for the las 40 years and more, seem to choose the wrong again.....
sorry , althought a very acuratte researche and serously done
one good thing, almost same design than British navy ans Aussi navy
Brits started their first one in 2017, and it won't be ready for sea trials until 2026, not in service until 2027.
Same design as the Brit and Aussie ships, just each are outfitted with sensors and weapons to fit each country.
Cry some more why don't ya, do you have any clue what you're talking about or just need something to whine about?
No country builds them in 2 to three years. They take at least 4 or 5 years IF you have the infrastructure and have built the same hulls for a while.
The first takes longest and requires sea trials. The second may have changes made, but by the third or fourth, time speeds up and sea trials are quicker.
This hull design was deemed to be a good one. Thats why UK/Australia also went for it, plus it lets Canada build its own ships. Some countries dont allow that.
@@watcher63034 good example is Bath Iron Works in Maine. Build most, if not all of the Arleigh Burke ships. Even after how many they have pumped out, it still take 4yrs for them. And if anyone has the process down, it would be them, considering they have delivered 38, and currently have 12 in progress
@@viper29ca Yeah they would be the fastest I would think. Even so that is an insanely fast time to build one.
They haven't even started a single ship yet and probably none of them will be constructed.
The last batch of Harry DeWolf class,"patrol vessels" turned out to be lemons.
Your opinion is based on what? Are your con bot senses tingling or something?
The global standard for naval lemons is the USN's LCS, a huge fleet that can basically never be used. Dare to compare.
I like the video but the voice bothers me.
He has a difficult accent and is hard to understand.
It bothers me that he keeps mispronouncing “river” with a hard “i”.
This must be AI voice. No one in the world pronounces “river” like that.
I'm sorry for mispronouncing “river”.
The lack of a CiWS bothers only because light drone warfare has proven it's self effective on the modern battlefield.
Other then that, looks good.
The new class couldn't keep up with US Navy carrier battle groups. How would they be able to serve as escorts?
What are you talking about, aircraft carrier battle groups don't cruise at 30+ knots, if they did their escorts would run out of fuel in no time, 28+ knots is pretty much the standard for most NATO destroyers and frigates.
If a carrier went 40 knots, every other ship would need to keep up with that.
Most destroyers/frigates use a combined diesel with gas turbine for high speed but cruise only with diesel so maybe 15 to 18 knots.
More like stream class. What a fkn joke.
The largest ships built since WWII besides the St, Laurenti class of DDH and her 19 other cousins and the 4 DDH,
later DDG 280 Class.
Ahhh Canada 🍁, a country where it's previous defence minister harjit sajjan priotised airlifting Afgan Sikhs than Canadians itself during the fall of Kabul in Afghanistan. He left behind 1,250 Canadian citizens and permanent residents, and their family members. The great truedue and their greater nation serving ministers.
I thought the 26 is a frigate.
Nobody seems to mind Canada when their ass is in a sling which has pretty much been ever since 1900
@@JT.Pilgrim In UK and OZ outfitting, they are, but only because calling it a destroyer is apparently bad, and doesn't look good on budget sheets. Also, what they will be tasked to do, which is more akin to ASW operations than anything.
RCN ships, and how they will be outifitted and used will be more destroyer like. Plus we have River class destroyers in WWII, which kinda lets them get away with it, not to mention that they are designed to replace the Iroquois class, which was a destroyer, even though they have been retired since 2017
What an obsolete piece of trash. The Metal its made out of is more valuable.
Its basically a brand new design.
You would rather rainbow unicorns?
I suppose you think Russia has the best ships.....the ones at the bottom of the black sea
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What a stupid comment. How are they obsolete when they havent been built yet? The radar used is so new that nobody else has them installed on warships yet. Any gun/missile/sonar/decoy can be changed to a different model as technology changes. You dont build a new frigate because there is a new torpedo you want. You simply buy the new torpedo.