THE KING Ending Explained & Did That TWIST Really Happen?

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2019
  • In this video we take a deep dive into Netflix's historical epic "The King" starring Timothée Chalamet and Joel Edgerton explaining the ending and whether or not that twist actually happened.
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  • @ThinkStory
    @ThinkStory  4 роки тому +439

    I need pronunciation lessons! A-gin-court? Aging-cor? If I do it again it'll be off with my head!

  • @crystalr6461
    @crystalr6461 4 роки тому +2572

    Movie was thoroughly magnificent. It's sad that people are bringing up Robert Pattinson and Twilight. Like bruh, he moved on from that. He turned out to be a great actor. Let us acknowledge his skills.

    • @Fankas2000
      @Fankas2000 4 роки тому +150

      No, that shit will haunt him to his last day. On his deathbed his grandson will whisper in his ear "fuck twilight".

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 4 роки тому +49

      He is the new Batman.

    • @mr.harrypickle2047
      @mr.harrypickle2047 4 роки тому +12

      @@Fankas2000 i can see that😂😂

    • @tjk3430
      @tjk3430 4 роки тому +46

      He is a great actor. I used to hate on him for twilight also. Dudes killing it now.

    • @bigstunna2049
      @bigstunna2049 4 роки тому +48

      Honestly his performance in twilight isnt even that bad kristen Stewart was the bad one in the scenes. His performance as the prince was great and I have high Hope's for his batman

  • @universalcollective427
    @universalcollective427 4 роки тому +1339

    Really enjoyed The King more than I was planning on, it was a wonderfully shot, beautiful, well acted, well written historical period piece, and wasn't trying to do too much or trick the viewer with some nonsensical gotcha, the twist at the end made perfect sense, and was telegraphed throughout the movie. Well worth the watch.

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +26

      As a movie, it's really good. In parts also quite historically authentic. But as a historical piece, it's utter bullshit. Chalamet's Henry, while intriguing, is neither Shakespeare's Herny nor the historical Henry.

    • @niclasjohansson5992
      @niclasjohansson5992 4 роки тому +4

      @@bernhardmeysel knig Herny the ferft

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому

      @@niclasjohansson5992 Gink Ernyh het Thiff

    • @bigstunna2049
      @bigstunna2049 4 роки тому +2

      The twist was very nice and helps make the movie rewatchable

    • @PixelGod240
      @PixelGod240 4 роки тому +4

      Too bad the twist is a complete farce and William was obviously scapegoated. We all know the deceit as well as the funding was done by the Vatican.

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 4 роки тому +2434

    I think the moral of the story is: Get yourself a queen.

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 4 роки тому +223

      No, moral of the story is..... stay in the pub!

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 4 роки тому +10

      @@Nemoticon 😺👍

    • @Fankas2000
      @Fankas2000 4 роки тому +103

      Nah the moral of the story is only trust your mates.

    • @SuperJohn12354
      @SuperJohn12354 4 роки тому +12

      Unless she’s been sent to take them down from with in

    • @davorebo5790
      @davorebo5790 4 роки тому +38

      A honest loving queen..

  • @brandonreed09
    @brandonreed09 4 роки тому +1671

    The actor who played Thomas is good at playing weak leaders.

    • @aurorahassan3296
      @aurorahassan3296 4 роки тому +239

      He played Tommen 😭 he knows how to play a weak king

    • @ZackyDaley
      @ZackyDaley 4 роки тому +18

      u mean Tommen

    • @brandonreed09
      @brandonreed09 4 роки тому +62

      @@ZackyDaley Yes, he played Tommen in GOT and Thomas in this movie.

    • @nigelonius
      @nigelonius 4 роки тому +26

      This blew my mind! I never paid much thought as to why he looked familiar

    • @brandonreed09
      @brandonreed09 4 роки тому +13

      @Stxr KillerX Henry's younger brother.

  • @heikki4919
    @heikki4919 4 роки тому +1203

    Never would have thought that my favorite movie this year would come from Netflix.

    • @brendakipkemoi2738
      @brendakipkemoi2738 4 роки тому +48

      Me too! I've watched it thrice already. I know it's not historically accurate but there's just something about this film and Chalamet's performance is mesmerizing, simply electrifying. This film needs a sequel.

    • @calebjohnson7617
      @calebjohnson7617 4 роки тому +2

      Endgames?

    • @deusrex6230
      @deusrex6230 4 роки тому +1

      Right? I dont even have netflix.

    • @philriversider3563
      @philriversider3563 4 роки тому

      Brenda Ingrid Kipkemoi Er Henry VI?

    • @Barra32
      @Barra32 4 роки тому +8

      You mean you haven’t seen joker yet?

  • @krissroxxy
    @krissroxxy 4 роки тому +1709

    what are you talking about? Timothée looked hot in that haircut!

    • @crozraven
      @crozraven 4 роки тому +134

      to be fair he already look "objectively" pretty hot in the first place.

    • @-a7132
      @-a7132 4 роки тому +43

      Agreed He looked so fineeee

    • @blackelf23
      @blackelf23 4 роки тому +97

      I somehow prefer him with that haircut. It makes no sense.

    • @fingerlice8287
      @fingerlice8287 4 роки тому +6

      PERIOTD

    • @CHIWUFAN19
      @CHIWUFAN19 4 роки тому +9

      Sooooo hotttt!!!! 🔥

  • @pmx1000_
    @pmx1000_ 4 роки тому +1208

    Men...this is not a speech (proceeds to give one of the best speeches ever)

    • @WuMyth
      @WuMyth 4 роки тому +40

      Phila Mlaba hardly anywhere near best speech... thought was a tad cringe

    • @snszbyd
      @snszbyd 4 роки тому +78

      Zed said by a moron with the cringiest video I have ever seen in my life on his moronic channel.

    • @scarlet3470
      @scarlet3470 4 роки тому +15

      Darhan Sansyzbaı lamo I went to watch it on his channel god I have cringebumps

    • @ASummersetproduction
      @ASummersetproduction 4 роки тому +29

      If this was a series that speech would have been 100x better. Like imagine after 8 episodes of struggle and doubt he gives that speech, it'd be on the same level as king Theoden's speech imo

    • @Edhead.
      @Edhead. 4 роки тому +11

      Zed you’re lack of self awareness baffles me.

  • @maggie198333
    @maggie198333 4 роки тому +454

    The strength of this movie is really how they tell the story. Almost perfect execution.

    • @oliva6352
      @oliva6352 3 роки тому +5

      Its really good but not historical

    • @semperperatus11
      @semperperatus11 3 роки тому +3

      I agree it doesn’t matter that it isn’t historically correct it’s story and filming are brilliant

    • @oliva6352
      @oliva6352 3 роки тому

      @@semperperatus11 Shame really cause the actor's and actress played there parts really well and the battel was really good. But if they just made it more historical they could of had a better movie and i think that what most people's complaints was how it was not historical

    • @oliva6352
      @oliva6352 3 роки тому

      @salty chip or the small person haham yeah these days they have the black person and small person in movies.

    • @annfeeney1662
      @annfeeney1662 3 роки тому +1

      THe performances , on the part of the actors , especially Chalanet , added to the film.

  • @double0seven637
    @double0seven637 4 роки тому +565

    just on the movie alone, the performances, way it was shot, sound, i thought the movie was amazing n gorgeous. I really enjoyed it n know i will be watching it on repeat

    • @ramzithegenie2917
      @ramzithegenie2917 4 роки тому +2

      I loved that when the Army marched through France it felt like uncharted territory and the Dauphine was paying with them.

  • @sarlinejoseph7698
    @sarlinejoseph7698 3 роки тому +312

    The ending hurt me. They took away Timothee morals and way of thinking. When Lily was talking to him, she was confused about him receiving a ball from her father, then I realized everything before he did. His own people manipulated him, into having a battle that the French didn't even want either. He killed thousands for no reason, he basically killed his best friend and he killed his cousin because he was tricked. They made a mockery out of him. He wanted peace but not in that way. What did it cost?? It cost him everything.

    • @mrcosmo8107
      @mrcosmo8107 2 роки тому +4

      Well said very accurate

    • @mansoorahmed1676
      @mansoorahmed1676 Рік тому +2

      bro what can you explain this more bc i don’t understand

    • @Jupiter_444
      @Jupiter_444 Рік тому +1

      @@mansoorahmed1676 😂

    • @blahblahblah5256
      @blahblahblah5256 Рік тому +7

      It's fictitious and historically incorrect on almost every level, so don't beat yourself up too much.

    • @Jupiter_444
      @Jupiter_444 Рік тому +1

      @@blahblahblah5256 thank for clarifying this. To many people think period pieces or movies are actual historical facts then base their opinions based on such assumptions.
      Like someone once said you can’t fix stupid.
      Knowledge is power

  • @hellkatt
    @hellkatt 4 роки тому +998

    F*cking Tommen... 🙄 😂

  • @austinlangdon9847
    @austinlangdon9847 4 роки тому +120

    The most important thing to remember is that Henry did not choose to go to war because of the assassination. He thought the provocation was not enough to justify war. It was the internal pressures from his inner circle that made Henry fear more strife that led him to concede to his counsel pushing for war. The causes for war were internal. It may be impossible to know if human nature is good or bad, but it is certainly weak, and the psychological and emotional compulsions for humans to relieve stress by responding to pressure with concession, and to fear with force is a common human tendency and this movie in my opinion is an attempt to show how, regardless of a leaders intentions, morality, etc. the systematic pressures common within human beings which are amplified in positions of power, regularly lead to crisis, misjudgement, misunderstanding, violence, and chaos in general, all that could have been easily avoided through sober reflection. It is just that the pressures of power are not conducive to sober reflection. This is the reason why brilliant men in power so often commit to such disasterously stupid policies.

  • @Harkness197
    @Harkness197 4 роки тому +281

    Omg how he knifed that traitor in the back of his head was insane!

    • @nindcitra
      @nindcitra 3 роки тому +6

      he deserve it

    • @dre4505
      @dre4505 3 роки тому +2

      @@nindcitra finally someone who actually gets it 👏 🙌 👌

    • @Harkness197
      @Harkness197 2 роки тому

      @UC8tPOe8wrKa8c3R-1QwKtcg haha wtf lol
      Did you watch it?
      The guy was a traitor..... Dumbass

    • @CriticalCoen
      @CriticalCoen 2 роки тому +1

      @Calm Beast He was absolutely a traitor.
      He lied to his King and tricked him into a war with France.

    • @nikai_vil3893
      @nikai_vil3893 2 роки тому +3

      @Calm Beast he was a traitor to his King but was loyal to England, the King is a symbol of England but the real England is the English people. Dont get me wrong he did steer it towrds him making more money on wool for example but his subversive action did bring a time of short peace.

  • @laylahernandez4382
    @laylahernandez4382 4 роки тому +64

    i feel bad for henry’s character bc he had good intentions but the toxic people around him made it impossible for him to keep them , so then he turned into the person he absolutely wanted to avoid. he was manipulated by selfishness and it turned him

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 2 роки тому

      Yes perhaps but remember his character in this wasn't the real Henry. Or Shakespeare's version of him . He wasn't manipulated in real life and although there were political reasons. And the assassination thing or Catherine's part is just the filmmakers. Along with a few other things. Henry wanted the war . He waited 10 years for a good excuse. And he was a born soldier. ( he took a crossbow bold to the face at 16 , stayed standing won the battle and had surgery without medication on the battlefield while talking to his men and his father who heard he was hurt ) and remember the French king was insane ( he thought he was made of glass) anything she saw or heard was unreliable. He could have ordered it and genuinely not recalled doing it . And the war didn't start over tennis balls . And both kingdoms had spies ( highly placed) in eachothers courts . Henry needed a war to unite England behind his dynasty before of the civil war his father ( a usurper ) won . And land was a major reason, and taxes the church supported and helped fund the war for a tax break . Its very post modern Hollywood. Take away the ( hero) s ending, and better yet if its a woman to do it . Even the traditional fictional Henry ( Shakespeare) when its inaccurate is more honest. The ending changes everything. And doesn't really make sense. ( in many ways )

    • @KiloPage777
      @KiloPage777 Рік тому

      Reminds me of Ender's Game.

  • @TiboFPS
    @TiboFPS 4 роки тому +301

    The movie is based on Shakespeare’s Henriad. Not actually on the history

    • @Nautilus1972
      @Nautilus1972 4 роки тому +46

      WE have no idea of the 'actual' history. All of history is a pack of lies written by the victors and the church.

    • @Wayne72LEVRAI
      @Wayne72LEVRAI 4 роки тому +32

      Nautilus1972 Wrong. We know a lot of things who are definitely fake in the fiction from shakespear, and the movie put this fiction to another level. I don’t talk about point of view, but facts.
      Some example in the movie: The personality of Henry and Louis are the exact opposite of what we know about them.
      Henry was the most feared king at this time, well know to be a viscious bastard, and he make execute all french prisoners after this battle, battle who are never took place in this kind of environment, but on a plains, from the choice of french army who try to stop invaders (yes, english are not « heroes » in this war, even if the movie try to make it).
      Louis are know to be a shy and kind person, and he was not on the battlefield at all (not even close) because he was sick.
      But this is an English production, this is exactly like American war movies, fiction with main theme « we are the good and we fight the bad, and we f*** facts and history ».

    • @farisqureshi6307
      @farisqureshi6307 4 роки тому +6

      Tibo Smolders some of it is historically accurate, but like some isn’t

    • @angloirishcad
      @angloirishcad 4 роки тому +12

      @@Wayne72LEVRAI It's not an English production its American. And the French are just as bad with their films i.e. Besson's Joan of Arc, where they portray the English as burning her village as a child and raping people, and then the English burning her at the stake, when it was French on both occasions. Get over it.

    • @AbcDef-ww2gy
      @AbcDef-ww2gy 4 роки тому +17

      @@Wayne72LEVRAI You totally misunderstood the film. It is true that Shakespeare's play made the English seem only like heroes, but this film didn't! Did you even listen to Catherine of Valois's speech at the end? And this film did indeed show Henry to be a bastard who executed all the French prisoners after the battle. Did you even watch the film properly? I don't think you did.

  • @qudsiaabdullali
    @qudsiaabdullali 4 роки тому +484

    Wow I failed to see the humour in you reducing Robert Pattinson's stunning performance down to nothing by referencing his twilight role. All of his scenes became scene stealers. I was never a fan of his but we should give credit where it's due. Just a feedback for the future especially since you run a film critic channel.

    • @Redmartian2000
      @Redmartian2000 4 роки тому +41

      Straight facts. Hate when creators do that.

    • @willd84451130
      @willd84451130 4 роки тому +41

      I disliked Twilight as much as the next person but the cracks at Pattinson are old and cheap at this point.

    • @sblack48
      @sblack48 4 роки тому +12

      He was very good in this.

    • @moki4895
      @moki4895 3 роки тому +3

      Qudsia Ali I appreciate seeing this comment

    • @DylanOkyere
      @DylanOkyere 3 роки тому +4

      Couldn’t agree more, left a very foul taste

  • @MrsJoannaG
    @MrsJoannaG 4 роки тому +168

    Not really understanding some of the hate this movie is getting from some viewers. I thought the acting was superb and I was engaged the entire time.

    • @YelleVision
      @YelleVision 4 роки тому +1

      Joanna Guerriero agree

    • @JulienFrey
      @JulienFrey 4 роки тому +24

      The main criticism I see is that the movie is not historically accurate at all, but leads viewers to think it is.

    • @AbcDef-ww2gy
      @AbcDef-ww2gy 4 роки тому +14

      @@JulienFrey It's much closer to the truth than Shakespeare's play, which made the English seem like absolute heroes, without any shading.

    • @davidhamilton1446
      @davidhamilton1446 3 роки тому +8

      It's a movie, not the history channel.

    • @mitchellanderson3960
      @mitchellanderson3960 3 роки тому +2

      I imagine it comes from Agincourt being one of the most researched battles of medieval history and they did not even closely attempt to portray it as it actually happened; where is the muddy deep furrows in the field from preparing the field for winter which caused the French charge to stall, where is the stakes which were moved pre battle twice to protect the archers on both flanks. There was no hiding in the woods for Henry V; he fought at the front with his knights while his longbowmen killed horses with arrows and finished the knights off in the mud with mallets? Also, Henry V was not a flat chested, pencilled neck soy boy who wanted to party all day and not fight. He was raised to be a King and pacifism did not exist in monarchies of the time. He was a warrior, before this campaign he took an arrow to the face and survived. There's taking artistic licenses with history and the grey areas that naturally occur from limited records and then there's messing up all the keys facts to fit your story.

  • @ianmcnab8751
    @ianmcnab8751 4 роки тому +39

    That stab in the head was graphic af, well acted by both actors, especially the dead one.

    • @byron6507
      @byron6507 4 роки тому +9

      ian mcnab ikr it’s one of the realest looking stabbing in movies i seen

  • @DeeL3
    @DeeL3 4 роки тому +381

    The "battle" between Timothee and Robert was just hilarious!! I laughed so hard at that part. Robert's character was talking all that smack and was talking all that noise and then. . .homie can't even walk without falling!! Seriously?! Yea the mud was a little slippery but Timothee was just standing there like. . ."really bruh? Really?! I'm not even gonna waste my time on you, the rest of y'all kill him instead." I laughed so hard at that part. Not sure if that is how the battle really happened but if it is, that's a terrible way to go.

    • @Gonzalo_105
      @Gonzalo_105 4 роки тому +11

      The battle its not. But the mid is, knights armor was super heavy and bad in the mud.

    • @baronessvondengler
      @baronessvondengler 4 роки тому +34

      That was funny, and a bit anticlimactic.

    • @DeeL3
      @DeeL3 4 роки тому +27

      @@baronessvondengler very anticlimactic. He was a better fighter when he was running around as a glow in the dark vampire.

    • @TheStantriX98
      @TheStantriX98 4 роки тому +1

      @@DeeL3 maybe is kinda philosophical

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 4 роки тому +42

      D. L. - It’s not about how good a fighter he was. The whole plan was that the English went in without armour precisely so that they could beat the fully armoured French who would get stuck in the mud.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +378

    "The only thing scarier than medieval battles are these haircuts"
    Hah! Nice one

    • @SuperJohn12354
      @SuperJohn12354 4 роки тому +3

      The diphtheria and stds

    • @kimberleysmith818
      @kimberleysmith818 4 роки тому

      SuperJohn12354 and the dysentery Henry V died from at a young age leaving a less than a year old son.

    • @Thatillegal
      @Thatillegal 3 роки тому

      It’s funny when the people saying this are the same going to super cuts and getting a trim.

  • @silvanamigliavacca9939
    @silvanamigliavacca9939 4 роки тому +21

    I just feel like this movie is so underrated, it’s actually so good.

  • @alexworm1707
    @alexworm1707 4 роки тому +45

    this movie was a treat for the eyes, stunning cinematography, the use of natural lights as in the revenant was really great, hdr was incredible, the acting is also really good. Only thing i thought they've done poorly is the importance of the longbow in the battle.

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +8

      Actually one of the few things I give the film credit for on the historical accuracy side. The effectivness of the longbow at outright killing armored knights at that period is quite overblown nowadays. At Agincourt, it served mostly to get the french to charge, and to get them of the horses. What won the day was the terrain (enclosed, and it was a freshly plowed field) and the french decision to attack after 3 hours of holding back.

    • @blahblahblah5256
      @blahblahblah5256 Рік тому

      And mostly fictitious.

  • @owenbutters9610
    @owenbutters9610 4 роки тому +51

    Also the fact that Lord Dorset who appears throughout the film as a close adviser to Henry, would have been his uncle. Dorset at the time was better known as Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter and Bastard half brother of Henry IV

  • @grossliz1995
    @grossliz1995 4 роки тому +77

    I thought you said Tommen instead of Thomas and forgot where I was for a minute. 😂😂

    • @johnratcliffe6438
      @johnratcliffe6438 4 роки тому +2

      I thought I recognised him; nice! Grown up quickly hasn't he?

  • @yakkun1926
    @yakkun1926 4 роки тому +44

    That Twilight bit was unnecessary. That's why I need to constantly explain to some friends that Robert is a terrific actor and they need to watch his recent films. And I believe he's gonna be awesome as Batman.

  • @shasha3435
    @shasha3435 4 роки тому +17

    One of the reasons why he asked Catherine to always speak to him clear and true was because after his friend died in the war (who said that line before) she was the only 'confidant' or whatever that he had

    • @Orphen42O
      @Orphen42O Рік тому

      In real life, it is unlikely that Henry V confided that much in his wife. Henry V was not manipulated into attacking France. It was his own ambition.

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven 4 роки тому +44

    Well, the movie is more of based upon Shakespeare play "Henriad." It's more about the drama & not a movie that strive to be historically accurate. But, it's still a great & very suspenseful movie imo. Especially with the actors performances that just excellent all around imo.

    • @farmdaddy510
      @farmdaddy510 4 роки тому +2

      Overall it was a good movie, but Henry’s role in the battle and his armor and or crown helmet, was way different. it was important because he wasn’t trying to hide and was on the front lines fighting inspired his men. I don’t see how that would have been less theatrical.

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +4

      I just don't understand the decision here. It strays so far from the original that basically the only thing it has in common with Henry IV 1., 2. and Henry V is the source material. So why not create a (somewhat) historically accurate version of the events to stand on its own, instead of another fictionalised version which has to compete with the original fictionalised version, which it can't really.

    • @crozraven
      @crozraven 4 роки тому

      @@farmdaddy510 Actually, his equipment/armor in battle of Agincourt kinda sucks. His dueling armor with the rebel son was much better. how the battle happened itself is purely non-historical. Again, it all comes down to adapting the Henriad play instead following historical accuracy.

    • @crozraven
      @crozraven 4 роки тому

      @@bernhardmeysel That's just the mind of Hollywood mate. Idk why they wanna re-adapt it again from the Henriad play version instead of following a more historical accuracy approach, in which clearly easily obtained that plebs like me able to self learned it on internet.

    • @qost
      @qost 4 роки тому

      @@crozraven Just to pick semantics, but the Henriad is a group of plays, not a play itself. This film adaptation doesn't include any themes from Richard II, so calling this a film adaptation of the epic Henriad is kind of incorrect as it doesn't include 1/4 of it's plays.

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 4 роки тому +19

    Not mention Falstaff that was the best part of this movie, they actually did a much more sympathetic character than the Shakespeare version, a truly father figure to Henry, loyal to the end, and his death was what made Henry began to question the lies that his Chief Justice tell him.

    • @darthvirgin7157
      @darthvirgin7157 3 місяці тому

      considering Falstaff actually didn’t exist in history.

    • @TheKeyser94
      @TheKeyser94 3 місяці тому

      @@darthvirgin7157 Yeah, and the real Henry was a total warmonger that really wanted to conquer France, at least they portray the battle of Agincourt right, Henry didn't win because he was more kind to the peasants and let them be in the army with their longbows, the are there because they are cheap, comparing to a Knight, and using armour in a rainy muddy terrain was the downfall of the French army, they become easy targets to the archers, Henry didn't win because he was strategic genius, most of his actions during the campaign were bold and suicidal, if France wasn't so divided during the time, his troops would have been slaughter, but he had luck in Agincourt.

    • @darthvirgin7157
      @darthvirgin7157 3 місяці тому

      @@TheKeyser94
      well, the fact the real henry v was STILL in france making war even AFTER agincourt and marrying catherine, kinda defeats the whole “henry v only wanted peace” thesis in the movie.

    • @TheKeyser94
      @TheKeyser94 3 місяці тому

      @@darthvirgin7157 To be honest I only watched this adaptation of William Shakespeare because they redeem Falstaff, after the second act, and Henry go to France, Falstaff began to be portrayed as a skimmer and someone that steal from the death, even in the Orson Wells adaptation, even that they rightfully portray Henry V as a entitled prick, in this adaptation for all his flaws try to be what Henry father wasn't, a father figure, and the tragedy is that he end dying in the end.

  • @currentcomentor1026
    @currentcomentor1026 4 роки тому +84

    The Netflix series is bassed closer to Shakespearses work rather than the pressent historical percieved wisdom.

    • @anthonyclennell8643
      @anthonyclennell8643 4 роки тому +10

      Even then it's way off though. How many historical films have to be made concentrating on theatrical premise rather than historical fact. Shame, was really looking forward to this film, but, the number of historical fantasies were just too frequent and numerous to do so.

    • @roryboytube
      @roryboytube 4 роки тому +3

      Wolf Hall 2 (Bring up the bodies) has been promised by BBC but there still seems to be no sign of it. Waiting in anticipation because WH is one of the greatest pieces of TV ever.

    • @musicaleuphoria8699
      @musicaleuphoria8699 4 роки тому

      @@roryboytube I so want another season of Wolf Hall. I think it's one of the shows that enthralled me about historical shows. Love from New Mexico.

    • @badfoody
      @badfoody 4 роки тому

      @@anthonyclennell8643 historical Henry V is mostly written by propaganda

    • @anthonyclennell8643
      @anthonyclennell8643 4 роки тому

      @@badfoodysome yes (as is most history), but certainly not mostly. Or do you think as depicted, that Henry being removed from the line of succession, the Dauphin being at Agincourt, Percy's death, Thomas's death, the Game of Thrones 'Battle of the Bastards' type sacrifice was just propaganda? The movie is not even close to Shakespeare's play never mind the actual historical fact.

  • @Laura-sp4td
    @Laura-sp4td 4 роки тому +116

    Why cant people enjoy the film for what it is? it has brilliant performances, its beautifully shot and, from my point of view, also has an engaging plot. All the coments about the historical accuracy are really unnecessary beacuse the movie doesnt even pretend to be its actually based off of two shakespeare plays not real life.

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +14

      Criticising a movie does not magically make it worse for you, does it? Agreed, it is a very well made movie. I just regret the creative direction taken in the story. It is not a retelling of Shakespeare, for that too many important aspects have been changed (first and formost Henry's character). And it is not a historcal retelling of the story. So it is just another fictionalised version of the story of Agincourt, and as such it has to compete with the original fictionalised version, which it can't really since that has proven to be a timeless classic for the last 400+ years.

    • @jackh9708
      @jackh9708 4 роки тому +3

      I got to see robert pattinson shanked to death in a mudpit, Thats good enough for me

    • @apppertplus68
      @apppertplus68 4 роки тому +4

      While we may have read about historical figures in history books in school, the visual narrative of film is what forms our memories of the characters and events.
      Some of us want to be conscious that we are not overwriting our knowledge of the often muddled historical accounts with our memories of the flashier fictional accounts.

    • @53strat55
      @53strat55 4 роки тому

      Give this woman a medal. Exactly!

    • @53strat55
      @53strat55 4 роки тому

      @@bernhardmeysel Dumb arguments, all the points you mentioned don't mean this is a bad movie. Allot of people have not seen the older version as well so there is not allot of competing going on. Nevertheless its a good movie, simply just not something you wanted.

  • @mattweems7842
    @mattweems7842 4 роки тому +20

    They left out that Henry has an ugly wound in his face from an arrow. It could have been a nice device for demonstrating the power of the longbow and the fact that Henry has been fighting since his teens.

    • @vladabalinsky7276
      @vladabalinsky7276 Рік тому +1

      in some scenes you can actually see they added a scar on his cheek from the old arrow wound! But I do not believe it is ever mentioned in the movie whatsoever. still a nice detail tho!

  • @Cardan011
    @Cardan011 4 роки тому +16

    Robert Pattinson is actually really good actor

  • @meowmix6401
    @meowmix6401 4 роки тому +20

    Apparently henry had actually been in many battles already, so he'd been quite experienced by that 1v1

    • @Postman69Pat
      @Postman69Pat 4 роки тому

      Johannes Liechtenauer a physical predator? 🧐

    • @HOBBL3
      @HOBBL3 4 роки тому +6

      Yup, he spent his youth commanding armies silencing rebellions

    • @HateBear-real
      @HateBear-real Рік тому

      Yeah, he had been fighting since he was but a wee lad.

  • @The164Silvia
    @The164Silvia 4 роки тому +71

    you lost me at "army of twilight" I can't believe people still make fun of robert pattinson for that movie.. Get over it, that fashion is long finished

  • @pachotandfamily6120
    @pachotandfamily6120 4 роки тому +122

    Is the actress playing Catherine the daughter of johnny depp and vanessa paradis?

    • @margaretroseduchessofpough8485
      @margaretroseduchessofpough8485 4 роки тому +10

      Pachot Javier yes she is

    • @pachotandfamily6120
      @pachotandfamily6120 4 роки тому +4

      @@margaretroseduchessofpough8485 thanks for the info 😇
      I feel old now. Hahah
      I remember when i was a child reading about her parents dating.. Now she is a grown woman. Geezz..
      All love 💗💗💗

    • @baronessvondengler
      @baronessvondengler 4 роки тому +5

      This is the sort of question you need Google for...

    • @saradecapua3264
      @saradecapua3264 4 роки тому +2

      Yep. Doesn't make her a great actress though.

    • @aurorahassan3296
      @aurorahassan3296 4 роки тому +11

      @@saradecapua3264 she was bloody brilliant in this, not sure what you're suggesting here 😐

  • @StephanieSoressi
    @StephanieSoressi 4 роки тому +29

    The ball thing was stolen from the story of King Darius sending a polo ball and mallet to Alexander the Great.
    You skipped a HUGE point -- Falstaff is not a historical person -- he is entirely fictional from Shakespeare.

  • @rei_cirith
    @rei_cirith 4 роки тому +32

    Henry lost everyone he trusted - his cousin, his best friend - and did everything he didn't want to do... because he listened to the advice of that William bastard.

  • @Jaqen-HGhar
    @Jaqen-HGhar 4 роки тому +44

    I think they should have been more open about the fact this was actually based off the Shakespeare play and not the actual history and people probably would have understood the film more or at least went into it with the proper frame of mind. It seems a lot of the critics and audience were expecting a film like Outlaw King or The Last Kingdom and instead got Shakespearean language and all that comes with his plays.

    • @laurelmalinowski1676
      @laurelmalinowski1676 4 роки тому +1

      Jaqen H'Ghar agreed. I was dismayed at how the film didn’t follow the actual history until I read it was a play on Shakespeare.

    • @joshsawyers6620
      @joshsawyers6620 4 роки тому +2

      The writers had said multiple times before release that it was a mix of Shakespeare and actual history.

    • @Gonzalo_105
      @Gonzalo_105 4 роки тому +2

      Idk about you guys. But i watched it in Netflix and it said right there it was based pm a Shakespeare play.

    • @davidcooke8059
      @davidcooke8059 4 роки тому

      Gundislav - wasn’t even based on Shakespeare as far as I can tell

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +2

      What I don't get is why then did they stray so far from Shakespeare? Henry in The King is a completely different person than he is in Herny V (and Herny V's version of Hal is arguably far more accurate to the real Henry)

  • @manibella2
    @manibella2 4 роки тому +20

    So we just gonna forget Robert Pattinson killing those kids 🥴🤨.

  • @mehhandle
    @mehhandle 4 роки тому +36

    I really enjoyed the king! Great film.

  • @realrifla
    @realrifla 4 роки тому +31

    "Did That TWIST Really Happen?" This is NOT explained in this video.

    • @penzorphallos3199
      @penzorphallos3199 3 роки тому

      The twist is the false flag assassination attempt by his own side blamed on the french, its explained in the video

  • @peterherron4222
    @peterherron4222 4 роки тому +6

    That was, quite simply, brilliant!!!
    From the production design, to the performances and especially the dialogue. As a student of film I can say without a doubt in my mind that was the greatest 'historical' film I've ever seen. Just outstanding

  • @sigmann66
    @sigmann66 4 місяці тому +1

    This was an underrated movie. Very well written, directed, and acted by numerous characters. The fight scenes were also real, not exaggerated. I ended up watching this movies numerous times.

  • @MyelinProductions
    @MyelinProductions 4 роки тому

    GREAT VIDEO! Thank You! very useful and informative.

  • @amazantaarchives9289
    @amazantaarchives9289 4 роки тому +14

    That was probably one of the darkest funniest finales

  • @jaleelshivers226
    @jaleelshivers226 4 роки тому +6

    Wait I was confused because I thought Hal found out that the "assassin" was fake already so, that's why he killed two of his own because he thought they faked it to get him to go to war with France. I was so confused later when Henry went to war with France because I thought he knew the assassin wasn't actually sent by them.Also, am I the only one who knew that assassin wasn't real as soon as he first said he was sent.

  • @aissaabdou7026
    @aissaabdou7026 4 роки тому +2

    Hall charachter's development was magnificent, and the end explanation in this video resum alla what i felt during watching this underrated masterpiece

  • @mikej8382
    @mikej8382 2 роки тому +2

    I did a report and a presentation on Henry and the battle in the movie in school. It was exciting to see this made into a movie. It was done so well.

  • @walterbakker2690
    @walterbakker2690 4 роки тому +5

    A Very good film. Great writing, beautiful language, superbly delivered...

  • @timmybeduria5719
    @timmybeduria5719 4 роки тому +5

    "Started from the bottom now i'm king"

  • @A1l7e1x7
    @A1l7e1x7 Рік тому

    Thanks for clearing this up...

  • @AbbaZabbaMan
    @AbbaZabbaMan 4 роки тому

    wow man I really appreciate your interpretation and insight into this. I have spent some small time to research and have seen that the play/Movie is very directly paying attention to natural human nature vs what seems to be mentioned in history by documents never mentions such tantalizing and enticing opposing battles "mentally" within Henry V. just my thoughts at the moment.

  • @boredlawyer3382
    @boredlawyer3382 4 роки тому +6

    I did not get the impression that Somerset was really trying to assassinate Henry V, just faking an assassination plot to get Henry to war on France. But, yeah, that was really low.

  • @willmosse3684
    @willmosse3684 4 роки тому +10

    Interesting, but what I want to know is why Lord Chief Justice William - closest advisor to the King of England - had the voice, look and demeanour of a village peasant.

    • @brianrose7345
      @brianrose7345 4 роки тому +5

      I think it was for our benefit. The movie builds on it being difficult to trust the people around the king. It was easier for us to see william as trustworthy because he was more personable

  • @therabbit9830
    @therabbit9830 4 роки тому

    Thx for the breakdown 👏👏👏👏

  • @AbhijitDas-cw2vd
    @AbhijitDas-cw2vd 4 роки тому

    Great explanation 👍🏾

  • @harkmi3
    @harkmi3 4 роки тому +3

    If you are going to talk about historical inaccuracies, the biggest one would be the fact that Henry had Falstaff (Oldcastle) burned at the stake in 1416 for religious heresy instead of Falstaff dying a warrior’s death on the battlefield. His transformation into a ruthless leader was entirely complete a year after Agincourt.

  • @timmyelite2951
    @timmyelite2951 4 роки тому +5

    I was halfway through watching it and this popped up!

    • @B1andonly
      @B1andonly 4 роки тому

      Tim Smith me 2 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @Aerodave11
    @Aerodave11 Рік тому +1

    this is one of the greatest films I have ever watched and I have seen them pretty much all, a masterpiece

  • @idil4657
    @idil4657 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, I wouldn't describe the conversation of Henry and Catherine as an interrogation of her rather than the opposite, It was Catherine who asked the daring questions, not as a plea for her families innocence or even to get answers she didn't know already, It was to make Henry introspect and him to reveal what he had failed to realize.

  • @ltcolfrankslade.
    @ltcolfrankslade. 4 роки тому +7

    So basically you didn't explain anything new but the facts that everyone whos watched the movie got already

  • @82luft49
    @82luft49 3 роки тому +6

    I watched it three times, that's my review.

  • @citizenbobx
    @citizenbobx 5 місяців тому +1

    The fact that the Chief Justice character uses the phrase 'regime change' earlier in the movie, coupled with the ending where we find out how much the guy profited from the war, got me believing the filmmakers indulged in another favorite pastime of historical films: using them to make references to modern times. In this case, they parallel the impression, rightly or wrongly, that a capricious, impulsive new ruler was manipulated by greedy advisors into a war that had no just cause.
    Of course, there is no historical evidence to suggest this depiction is accurate, or that Henry was at all reluctant about war with the French. He had a Tower of London-sized... desire... to do so.

  • @ComedyJakob
    @ComedyJakob 4 роки тому +13

    I was surprised that was supposed to be a twist. Chief Justice was like "Hey I really, really, really want you to go to war with France and we all want to go to war with France all of us." and then the very next thing he does is say "Oh look, I personally found an assassin sent by those dastardly French to kill you, ma lord! They also said your mother is fat! What do you want to dooooo??!??!?!?"

  • @justinstoll4955
    @justinstoll4955 Рік тому +3

    This movie is simply fantastic. I still can't believe Netflix hasn't tried to adapt other Shakespearean tales in this kind of format with the same director. They could be great movies as long as they're done in the same vein as the king.

  • @scottfree9994
    @scottfree9994 4 роки тому +7

    That kid who played Henry the 5th did a freaking outstanding job. I got the feeling we'll be seeing that kid in up and coming stuff soon. Kid sells it like an young Cruise or Pitt. Haven't seen that in along while.

    • @AbcDef-ww2gy
      @AbcDef-ww2gy 4 роки тому

      You're correct: Wes Anderson's The French Dispatch in July, followed by DUNE in December, and a Bob Dylan biopic provisionally titled "Going Electric" next year.

  • @ItsMasonic
    @ItsMasonic 4 роки тому

    Well put!

  • @ARCtrooperblueleader
    @ARCtrooperblueleader 4 роки тому

    Excellent video.

  • @caleighhraee
    @caleighhraee 2 роки тому +3

    I absolutely loved this movie. I’ll be fair I’m a huge Joel Edgerton, Timothee Chalamet, and Robert Pattinson fan so this was nice to see. I liked how more dramatic and epic it was, don’t really care if it’s not historically accurate

  • @murphie_4559
    @murphie_4559 4 роки тому +3

    Okay but timothee had me falling with that bowl cut. He pulls it perfectly. I thought he was not attractive but now-

  • @marieconstantia4441
    @marieconstantia4441 4 роки тому +1

    How cool is when I found out this battle is on my birthday.

  • @lizmad8091
    @lizmad8091 9 місяців тому +1

    The movie was phenomenal. Very much a coming of age movie recognizing how 4 teenage boys were lead to their death because they had too much responsibility at an early age, and the the last boy becoming a man all while loosing his soul. Brilliant execution and excellent acting.

  • @maning04
    @maning04 4 роки тому +5

    Ah.. Those haircuts! I remember my dad use to cut me and my bros hair to look like that

  • @jorrillabear
    @jorrillabear 4 роки тому +34

    This movie was like 35% accurate . That ending was hilarious

    • @RyknowChaos
      @RyknowChaos 4 роки тому +33

      Its an adaptation of Shakespeare's play not a historical account hence all the inaccuracies and embellishments

    • @gandalfthegrey2592
      @gandalfthegrey2592 4 роки тому +3

      it doesn't f*cking mater.

    • @amys495
      @amys495 4 роки тому

      @@gandalfthegrey2592 is someone booty hurt?

    • @gandalfthegrey2592
      @gandalfthegrey2592 4 роки тому +2

      @@amys495 yes

    • @raiden7k579
      @raiden7k579 3 роки тому

      @@amys495 who tf says booty hurt

  • @harryfieldson
    @harryfieldson 9 місяців тому +1

    One thing that frustrates me as a fan of this movie is a lot of the reviews mark it down in score because of historical inaccuracies. The problem is it's never made very clear to most people that the script wasn't supposed to be historically accurate - it's a reinterpretation of the play about Henry V that William Shakespeare wrote as part of his 4 part collection 'The Henriad'. I honestly have gained such a massive appreciation for the film the more I've watched it.

  • @StuSaville
    @StuSaville 4 роки тому

    Henry's character reminds me of J from David Michôd's first film Animal Kingdom. Both characters find themselves isolated, surrounded by people they can't trust and both films end with a very similar act of violence.

  • @guesstime6445
    @guesstime6445 4 роки тому +5

    This movie was really good. I like the action scenes

  • @shmackedmuffins7948
    @shmackedmuffins7948 4 роки тому +4

    Robert Pattinson truly is a vampire.

  • @mleekahh
    @mleekahh 6 місяців тому +1

    This film deserves to be rewatched

  • @samuelramirez2638
    @samuelramirez2638 2 роки тому +1

    I always had planned to watch this movie but never got around to actually watching it because I kept putting it off!
    Then I recently watched it because of watching Timothy in Dune recently (Yes Im a Dune fan dont hound me) lol, but I like movies based on historical events or events that were possibly true or legends as well, and I finally watched it today and I enjoyed every minute of it, the movie has a slow pace but its perfect for this type of genre and cinematography accompanied with the the score that sets an ominous tone throughout from the start!

  • @jvincent6548
    @jvincent6548 4 роки тому +4

    This story shall the old man teach his son.....
    Henry V dies of dysentery in 1422.
    Henry VI had already been born but never saw his father.
    Henry's widowed wife, the Dowager Queen Katherine of Valois is sent to live at Windsor.
    There, she began a relationship with Owen ap Mrdudd ap Tdr (Owen Tudor).
    They married. Two sons: Edmund and Jasper. were born.
    Edmund marries Lady Margaret Beaufort.
    They have a son, Henry, later, 1st Earl of Richmond.
    Lady Margaret was descended through a minor branch of the Lancastrians from Edward III via his third son John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster.
    Thus setting up perfectly many of the threads, and also one major one, of the later Wars of the Roses: their son, Henry, was to become Henry VII after the great battle of Bosworth and the defeat of Richard III in 1485.
    Bosworth is down the road from me and one may still pick up shot in the field where the battle occurred (were one allowed to walk the field there).

  • @victor_dakota7986
    @victor_dakota7986 4 роки тому +1

    Hey, Thanks for clarifying the ending. Plus, I have watched the movie......and [everyone/everybody] it is good. Thanks again for uploading.

  • @victoriarios9953
    @victoriarios9953 3 роки тому +2

    I wanted this to be a whole show I loved the cast

  • @Maarten2142
    @Maarten2142 4 роки тому +3

    I get it, he was in Twilight and the joke is getting old. Probably one of the best actors out there right now. just look at all the smaller films he did.

  • @soul2squeezy439
    @soul2squeezy439 4 роки тому +3

    Even tho it's not accurate, this is still a great movie. Edward Cullen's accent is pretty funny tho. LOL !

  • @almasakic1148
    @almasakic1148 6 місяців тому

    I always thought that the gift of the ball was a play on "the ball is in your court".

  • @jvincent6548
    @jvincent6548 4 роки тому +1

    I must have seen Henry V over a couple of dozen times on stage, film etc. I studied History and English at a school and Henry V was set for our exam. I did the prologue in school play also. So, I enjoyed this adaptation but it left me feeling uneasy. That doesn't mean I didn't like it: quite the contrary. Sean Harris, I thought showed his experience as i think he played his role so very well.

  • @futurefuture5043
    @futurefuture5043 4 роки тому +14

    A lot was not accurate about this movie.

    • @Wonder7771
      @Wonder7771 4 роки тому +13

      It was based more on Shakespeare plays more than the actual history

  • @devotomford7775
    @devotomford7775 4 роки тому +8

    That needed explaining?

  • @maddyvogel4525
    @maddyvogel4525 4 роки тому +1

    I found this video and was like “how do i know the name Think Story???” And then i realized you’re always in the Bachelor Fantake live streams lol

  • @kps081209
    @kps081209 3 місяці тому +1

    One of the best movie from netflix,,,, i watched more than once and i will probably watch again in future

  • @leejung-woo3779
    @leejung-woo3779 4 роки тому +20

    Thomas was entirely justified for being outraged by Henry. Thomas was named the next king after Henry IV but now Henry V comes in, who supposedly has no ambition to the throne, takes the stage and steals the attention from Thomas, harming his prestige and possibly causing contempt from his vassals. Henry V portrayed in the film might appear be a good person in the beginning, but for someone who grew up in court politics, it does not excuse his actions against Thomas, which was clearly challenging his authority as the heir apparent and showing an impression of an ambition to the throne whether he intended it or not.

    • @owenbutters9610
      @owenbutters9610 4 роки тому +5

      Lee Jung-Woo expect in reality Henry IV never named Thomas his heir. In reality Prince Hal was trained as a knight by Hotspurs father and grew close to the family whilst preparing to become the next king
      When the family rebelled, Henry returned to his father and trounced Hotspur soundly in a full scale battle at Shrewsbury
      As Henry IV aged and grew sicker, Hal became king in all but name. And the two fought constantly over the changes the prince was making
      Thomas was one of Henry Vs closest advisors and his heir apparent until he had a child. He would be left in charge of English troops in France when Henry returned to London with his soon to be wife. Thomas made some bad choices and died fighting

    • @leejung-woo3779
      @leejung-woo3779 4 роки тому +1

      @@owenbutters9610 The viewpoint is from within the story of the film

    • @Bittertokken
      @Bittertokken 4 роки тому +5

      Lee Jung-Woo Thomas was a glory seeking little boy who couldn’t see pass his own nose.

  • @alexworm1707
    @alexworm1707 4 роки тому +6

    really good movie, one of the best from netflix, along with beast of no nation. It shows that historical accuracy isn't important in a movie, i for one ain't looking to learn history watching movies, im there for entertainment, a good historical movie makes you want to learn more about its history, a accurate historical movie that sucks as a movie, is forgettable.

    • @bernhardmeysel
      @bernhardmeysel 4 роки тому +1

      God forbid one should strive to see a good and historically accurate movie to be made. Oh, the hubris!
      The saddest thing about this is, more than 400 years before the release of "The King", someone wrote a more captivating and on top of that, also more historically accurate fictionalised story about the life of Herny the Fifth.

    • @alexworm1707
      @alexworm1707 4 роки тому +3

      @@bernhardmeysel want historical accuracy go read a history book. If it were accurate as a plus it would be great, but it wouldn't make it any more entertaining then it is.

    • @irov5884
      @irov5884 4 роки тому +1

      But people think it is accurate while it's 100% english propaganda, that's the problem.

  • @margaretmccabe1360
    @margaretmccabe1360 4 роки тому

    Loved this channel loved the video analysis but daddy thing. It so much

  • @fredyleyva4893
    @fredyleyva4893 4 роки тому +2

    great video! loved the flick!! only problem i had with it was when Henry and Catherine are conversing and she speaks perfectly good english aftwr saying she didnt know how.

    • @Chris.4345
      @Chris.4345 4 роки тому +2

      Fredy leyva She was “trolling” him. For lack of a better word.

    • @apppertplus68
      @apppertplus68 4 роки тому

      Could be an overly subtle representation of Henry and Catherine continuing the conversation in French, since he had earlier demonstrated his ability to speak French well.

    • @Chris.4345
      @Chris.4345 4 роки тому +1

      App Pertplus That’s reasonable. However I don’t think it’s the case, because earlier in the film the Dauphin makes it a point to talk about speaking English vs. speaking French. I think the characters (and the filmmaker) want it to be very evident that everyone is bilingual.

  • @marymissmelody8520
    @marymissmelody8520 4 роки тому +3

    God Almighty.That boy did genius to the role. WOW!!!

  • @jordanmc9015
    @jordanmc9015 4 роки тому +5

    i dont think Kings like to be called boy by those of lesser stations. so anyone

  • @michaelmelocoton8197
    @michaelmelocoton8197 4 роки тому

    His selflessness made him a legend

  • @knuclehead
    @knuclehead 4 роки тому

    Hey Think Story, are you explaining or reiterating the story?