Just to make this clear because this wasn't mentioned in the video, if you are going to play test using the multiplayer tactic, be aware that the level might not work correctly, because things might not spawn every time, things don't work how they do in single player, etc. You might also have some lag using this method which could be a bit hard to play a level, especially if it is hard in difficulty. So if this technique doesn't work. You could always upload the level by placing a dev exit somewhere, and the play tester could play your level without any problems. They can give you feedback and anything else they need to tell you about. When you take the level down to re-upload it, please don't include the dev exit. Thank you, and keep making!!
Easy/Normal levels are very good for plays, as people who are going for the 1000 endless clears will probably see your level. Dont make troll/kaizo levels, as those often get skipped in endless Super Expert. Music/Art levels get a lot of hearts. Do NOT make refreshing special levels, as they usually get more boos than hearts. If levels look nice, and are decently easy, people will most likely like them.If you’re going for the Wind Up Shoe (5000 Plays) or the Fried Chicken Headgear (7000 Maker Points) then generally you’ll want to make good looking levels with Normal difficulty.
I know u posted this comment ages ago but it’s a good idea to add functionality to the decorative vines because that encourages people to cheese without them actually cheesing. Or in other words, for the players to explore.
“Traditional levels don’t do well” *shows two traditional levels on the leaderboard* Edit: In all seriousness this is a really good video, keep up the good work Kyle!
Thank you so much I am now almost on the leaderboard for all time maker points I make super expert expert platforming levels, so I am here to prove that you can get popular even with hard levels
I hate refreshing levels because they are mostly in the castle theme so when ever I try to look for a bowsers castle level, I find a seizure inducing crap fest!
I would not write off doing traditional levels. They are a lot of work and you're an underdog for sure but you can still get thousands of plays with good ones. You do need some flavour for them to stand out though.
Yeah traditional levels can definitely make it far on the leaderboards, but it really just depends with the algorithm. Usually a traditional level will need some sort of advertisement to stay up there. If it has a creative gimmick that goes throughout the level that hasn't been done before, it could be leaderboard material. My only problem with traditional levels are most of them are exact same with a couple obstacles and enemies and not much creativity.
@@kylesmm4165 There's a world of difference between traditional levels even if they use the same parts. The pacing, engaging platforming, number of options presented to overcome challenges, immersive enviroments, flow etc. are all things separating good traditional levels from mediocre ones. That's where the level design lies, not in the choice of gimmicks.
@@Tingletonttu Very true, that is the formula to a lot of traditional levels I see, but most traditional levels have a certain challenge or gimmick that it is based around of, that can lead to different challenges within the same idea.
Two things that I hate about refresing levels are: 1: Many of them require you to do violence to complete those levels such as by mowing down enemies with cars, invincibility stars, and etc. 2: No musical note blocks at all. And no, the special sound effects don't make up for the total lack of musical pink note blocks, even though special sounds and special effects don't normally bother me in theirselves.
We need Kyle to LIVE Edit: For context he's been gone for like a year now lol, and no signs of him anywhere. He deleted his insta I'm pretty sure. Don't know where he is, but we all miss him
my problem with this Refreshing levels are not if someone make one, but many creaters are making 10 or 20 Refreshing levels where is only the same again and again. similar as all this blue plattforms and chainsaw levels
It's not fair! my levels follow most of your tips and never make into the hot list. but levels older than mine and with less plays and likes and not following your tips get on there. any explanation?
Salt Meets Gaming I’m thinking your problem is that your like to play ratio isn’t the strongest even though it is a good level. The only way Nintendo puts levels on the leaderboards is based off of how people like the level. If it doesn’t have many likes compared to plays, Nintendo won’t think about putting it on the leaderboard. So to solve this, I would say send your levels to streamers, in discord servers, sub Reddit’s, whatever it really takes to get more likes, and improve your ratio. Just remember, don’t beg for your likes or you will most likely be hated in the SMM2 community. The first 50-80 plays on your level really determine if it will be on the leaderboard or not. I hope this helps!
I'm trying to get on the MP Weekly LB for the ribbons, I currently have 6 speedrun levels uploaded, is that enough or should I make more? I'm probably gonna delete all of my levels then reupload those 6 and advertise them a bunch, but i wanna know if i should make more of them because I might not be able to climb as much with just those
Ah I see, your trying to get on the MP Weekly! Well it really depends what position you are going for. If you want 1st to get the royal attire, I would probably make more than 6. Because for some reason, if you upload a lot of levels, you get a TON of maker points.
@@kylesmm4165 oh aight, im thinking about making 15 of them and uploading them all at once, do you think thats enough? i dont really like making levels that much though as i run out of ideas even for speedruns, but ill still make them i guess.
Well that's exactly what i do and i've been keeping up for months and i knew that i was doing it great but no, i was unlucky because my levels were protected from showing up to players. Is this the way how nintendo says “we don't like your course, it's has been setted hidden"?
hi also yes this would be uefull if ppl didnt make bad levels or ppl that are famous mke bad levels like they keep repeating the same levels like the stupid lift platformers
Uhm so apparently no one answered so im sorry if im annoying answering so late, but there should be i think a website (google "super mario maker music video maker") in which you can put the music file, then an image shows up in which every note is displayed
YTN-RWF-K4G I got 7 plays and 4 likes but it seems like noone would play it anymore I reached the block limit and wasnt able to make the bonusroom any bigger xD
Because they are annoying can cause seizures and are a cheap way to get clout and attention they are also repetitive and constantly take up all the leaderboatd spots
Hey i have 55 likes my first level is my most played and most liked level and got ninji gear if you want ill make you a map and my creator name is octolingYT and the reason im saying it is to see when i upload that map of your choice! (Unless its. Music not that)
Hey man, looks like this video ended up doing pretty nice for you
Yo! What’s up?
Hi Danny!
are you still doing rejected updates for super mario maker 2?
Just to make this clear because this wasn't mentioned in the video, if you are going to play test using the multiplayer tactic, be aware that the level might not work correctly, because things might not spawn every time, things don't work how they do in single player, etc. You might also have some lag using this method which could be a bit hard to play a level, especially if it is hard in difficulty. So if this technique doesn't work. You could always upload the level by placing a dev exit somewhere, and the play tester could play your level without any problems. They can give you feedback and anything else they need to tell you about. When you take the level down to re-upload it, please don't include the dev exit. Thank you, and keep making!!
@Nontendo Sorry if you want it played, you can join this discord server and plenty of people will play it there! discord.gg/xzRv997
@@kylesmm4165 that Invite doesn't work
yes, why is that?
Easy/Normal levels are very good for plays, as people who are going for the 1000 endless clears will probably see your level. Dont make troll/kaizo levels, as those often get skipped in endless Super Expert. Music/Art levels get a lot of hearts. Do NOT make refreshing special levels, as they usually get more boos than hearts. If levels look nice, and are decently easy, people will most likely like them.If you’re going for the Wind Up Shoe (5000 Plays) or the Fried Chicken Headgear (7000 Maker Points) then generally you’ll want to make good looking levels with Normal difficulty.
6:47 Yeah vines are good for decoration but just make sure it can’t be used to cheese your level or get in the way of other actions
Thats a good point, I should have addressed that
I know u posted this comment ages ago but it’s a good idea to add functionality to the decorative vines because that encourages people to cheese without them actually cheesing. Or in other words, for the players to explore.
I like how you said traditional levels are not popular material yet there’s a level named: 4-3 Fish Bone Reef
Well at least most, it's just a lot harder
@@kylesmm4165 I used all your tricks, and still didn't get plays, should I just abandon my job of making courses?
“Traditional levels don’t do well” *shows two traditional levels on the leaderboard*
Edit: In all seriousness this is a really good video, keep up the good work Kyle!
Me, watching this as someone who’s only got 1 good level: Write that down, write that down!
Haha that’s reasonable, hopefully this video helps you improve the quality of your levels in the future!
i'll play that level if u play mine
11:38 you could also go to the new level section and play a level there. The level will be replaced by your level.
Thats true but that is kinda flooded with tons of bad levels, so most likely nobody will see it
I hate refreshing levels,they don’t refresh
your mind they refrustrate your mind
This sounds like an awesome video! I can’t wait for the kaizo video to come out!
This is actually awesome how does this not have more views!? Great job Kyle 👍
Well it just came out! But hopefully more people can see this ;)
@@kylesmm4165 that is true :)
I think if u made this video like around the release date of smm2 it would have moar views
@@Zolomight For sure
Thanks Kyle for the tips and strategies for level plays 👍
Hopefully I'll get #1 one day with these strategies.
Thank you so much I am now almost on the leaderboard for all time maker points
I make super expert expert platforming levels, so I am here to prove that you can get popular even with hard levels
I sent my super world to many streamers, and now i got gold medal weekly maker points! Thanks for the tip!
All Right! Now that's what I’m talking about! Another video this week you know we got it poppin.
haha Thats right!
Step 1: Be famous on YT.
Step 2 (if step 1 does not work): Make a refreshing level.
I hate refreshing levels because they are mostly in the castle theme so when ever I try to look for a bowsers castle level, I find a seizure inducing crap fest!
This video is actually really good
Didnt expect that 👍
Thanks for the video. I really needed it!
Very informative. Learned a lot more from this video. :9
Great to hear, hope it helps you! ;)
I spent 3 1/2 hours making a level (a Kaizo) but then I forgot to save it and everything was lost
I would not write off doing traditional levels. They are a lot of work and you're an underdog for sure but you can still get thousands of plays with good ones. You do need some flavour for them to stand out though.
Yeah traditional levels can definitely make it far on the leaderboards, but it really just depends with the algorithm. Usually a traditional level will need some sort of advertisement to stay up there. If it has a creative gimmick that goes throughout the level that hasn't been done before, it could be leaderboard material. My only problem with traditional levels are most of them are exact same with a couple obstacles and enemies and not much creativity.
@@kylesmm4165 There's a world of difference between traditional levels even if they use the same parts. The pacing, engaging platforming, number of options presented to overcome challenges, immersive enviroments, flow etc. are all things separating good traditional levels from mediocre ones. That's where the level design lies, not in the choice of gimmicks.
@@Tingletonttu Very true, that is the formula to a lot of traditional levels I see, but most traditional levels have a certain challenge or gimmick that it is based around of, that can lead to different challenges within the same idea.
We’re all talking about how many refreshing levels there are but what about the fcking amount of gourmet race levels
“Get another person to test your level via online play”
Switch online connection + Wifi: *no*
nice video this helps me a lot as a struggling maker.
Aawesome to hear!
@@kylesmm4165 yeah aawesome
That Joachim Karud music gave me nostalgia from one of my favorite youtubers
Good job on 1K subs!
Really helpful video! I’m going to try my best to make better levels one day. Also, I hate refreshing levels.
Two things that I hate about refresing levels are:
1: Many of them require you to do violence to complete those levels such as by mowing down enemies with cars, invincibility stars, and etc.
2: No musical note blocks at all. And no, the special sound effects don't make up for the total lack of musical pink note blocks, even though special sounds and special effects don't normally bother me in theirselves.
We need Kyle to LIVE
Edit: For context he's been gone for like a year now lol, and no signs of him anywhere. He deleted his insta I'm pretty sure. Don't know where he is, but we all miss him
3:54 I’ll join omg they get all the likes we need unique levels ore than any thing they just want to get popular by like this ends now😤
Awesome! Link in description ;
K I joined
FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO LIKES TO PLAY AS TOAD!
my problem with this Refreshing levels are not if someone make one, but many creaters are making 10 or 20 Refreshing levels where is only the same again and again. similar as all this blue plattforms and chainsaw levels
1:18, why would you boo a lvl with so many likes?
I haven’t played Mario maker for a while, right now I am playing Animal Crossing! I love it. ❤️
Awesome! I should definitely try acnh
Oh hey Jelly Juice!
Anthony Reid 👋
Funny story I am doing the same thing but reversed roles lol
0:09 that doesn’t sound like a very good level then
lol true
The beginning is so relatable
I'm your a thousandth subscriber :)
13:10 THATS ME lol
Funfact: it takes 2% of a month for your level to pop up on new courses
No it doesn’t, I posted a level and found it in the new levels in the same hour
It's not fair! my levels follow most of your tips and never make into the hot list. but levels older than mine and with less plays and likes and not following your tips get on there. any explanation?
Salt Meets Gaming I’m thinking your problem is that your like to play ratio isn’t the strongest even though it is a good level. The only way Nintendo puts levels on the leaderboards is based off of how people like the level. If it doesn’t have many likes compared to plays, Nintendo won’t think about putting it on the leaderboard. So to solve this, I would say send your levels to streamers, in discord servers, sub Reddit’s, whatever it really takes to get more likes, and improve your ratio. Just remember, don’t beg for your likes or you will most likely be hated in the SMM2 community. The first 50-80 plays on your level really determine if it will be on the leaderboard or not. I hope this helps!
Now that I think of it, that might be the case. Thanks!
@@Saltmaster-ro4ep Awesome!
U got 1k subs congrats 👏
Amazing video this will help me get more likes!
Awesome to hear!
5:09 YES HAND REVEAL!!! 😊
omg thx for inspiration !!
I'm trying to get on the MP Weekly LB for the ribbons, I currently have 6 speedrun levels uploaded, is that enough or should I make more? I'm probably gonna delete all of my levels then reupload those 6 and advertise them a bunch, but i wanna know if i should make more of them because I might not be able to climb as much with just those
Ah I see, your trying to get on the MP Weekly! Well it really depends what position you are going for. If you want 1st to get the royal attire, I would probably make more than 6. Because for some reason, if you upload a lot of levels, you get a TON of maker points.
@@kylesmm4165 oh aight, im thinking about making 15 of them and uploading them all at once, do you think thats enough? i dont really like making levels that much though as i run out of ideas even for speedruns, but ill still make them i guess.
@@tubiek yeah with 15, and you advertise them all correctly, I think you can easily make the MP weekly LB!
Well that's exactly what i do and i've been keeping up for months and i knew that i was doing it great but no, i was unlucky because my levels were protected from showing up to players. Is this the way how nintendo says “we don't like your course, it's has been setted hidden"?
I like making my levels in TV mode it's much easier, also I hate refreshing levels too
Question, someone in your discord play kaizo in an advanced way ?
Yes!! Refreshing Courses suck!
Agreed!
Agreed, make sure to join the mass-boo council
FireP1ranha I already did
Good video, super sad traditional levels usually aren't popular though haha.
I know! It's tough that levels that are like previous mario games don't get many plays :(
can we plug our levels here? 😁
Thanks for the tips
It is unfair that a person uploaded a level with just saying Nintendo deleted all his likes and his level goes to the leaderboard!
dang that's crazy!
saw it. booed it. people can be gullable
I ever had that, Nintendo deleted ALL my courses and i became a noob again.
do you like trees?
ofc who doesn't?!?
I tried to do these stuff in the following video, but it didnt work.
What was the code of the p ballon level ?
Hey can I have the ID for the traditional level example I’m gonna need it!
You mean for the gameplay of a traditional level? If so, not sure if I still have the code...
yesss thank you so muchhhhhhhh
Refreshing Levels Should Be Called Free Seizure Levels
Good tips
Hi can make the server link available again no work
How do you make a music level?
Nice level Luigi Mansion.
I never got on the leaderboard by doing this and I only have five more try’s to make do u think I’ll make it me made 95 courses
You sound like Chills if he was fourteen.
How dare you play a luigi’s mansion level with toad???
OMG, what was I thinking!!
You have such a nice voice :)
I’ll stick to some traditional. I like the fun factor more than gimmicks.
I’ve gotten 5 popular traditional levels and this is not fully correct
Hey man... how do you get more views with traditionals levels? I think I'm doing something wrong and fail then
ALSO THX FOR THE VIDEO
Is it OK if I make a level like yours?
People put a ton of effort into refreshing levels they take hours to make
My levles mostly have 10 plays in 1 or 2 days so I think I'm doing good with my levle and stuff :p
Who else here put the course ID and found nothing?
All your levels are viral, not just a few
From using these tricks!
Hey I know you
PLS COME BACK TO MAKING VIDEOS
Other solution make some smm2 friends and then they don’t go too the void
I got you 1k subscribers :)
Nooo, I don’t have access to twitch, discord, or Reddit. How do I get popular now?
How do you put symbols down
Bottom left
Those small stars what people put in there levels
hi also yes this would be uefull if ppl didnt make bad levels or ppl that are famous mke bad levels like they keep repeating the same levels like the stupid lift platformers
I do all of this and no one sees my levels
I’m not sure if you still use UA-cam, but your discord link expired
hmmm maybe look at his home page
How to music level tho? It's so hard
Uhm so apparently no one answered so im sorry if im annoying answering so late, but there should be i think a website (google "super mario maker music video maker") in which you can put the music file, then an image shows up in which every note is displayed
YTN-RWF-K4G
I got 7 plays and 4 likes but it seems like noone would play it anymore
I reached the block limit and wasnt able to make the bonusroom any bigger xD
Trust me I hate refreshing special levels only reason I made one is because they get popular
I have a 250 plays level I want it to get to 500 plays also I’m making a Mario kart level which I hope will get popular
I love refreshings :). BUT WHY DO SOME OTHERS HATE IT!!?!?
Because they are annoying can cause seizures and are a cheap way to get clout and attention they are also repetitive and constantly take up all the leaderboatd spots
My level the planet of poison had 9 likes after seing this now it got 149 likes. Thank you so much. Here is the Code BNG-R3C-CWG
Hey i have 55 likes my first level is my most played and most liked level and got ninji gear if you want ill make you a map and my creator name is octolingYT and the reason im saying it is to see when i upload that map of your choice! (Unless its. Music not that)
im just tired to going to streamer and asking same to play my levels so they can like it :/
Kyle used Tutorial!
It's not very effective...
When did you? If not, there must have been something you missed
Finally
IKR!!
if you can code is XM8-P7B-B7G
I mean I already get hundreds to thousands of plays, and ten to a hundred likes, people like my speedrun levels best
You should have more subs
pogchamps
:poggers:
Pizza time
How dare your levle not include a big wall of enimys with a star
How dare you try to get people to make trash
It is a problem! One of my levels I spent 2 hours on and it only has 1 play. :c
If anyone wants to try it, it is L22-G9Q-WVG
Nice!
My comment says 'yea.'
DW6-5HT-00G
Yes, I know it looks like Dog _[pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis]_