I agree. I can think of any number of mystery guests and even professions that didn’t exist then. The real challenge would be to find another John Daly.
I was born in 1962 and for some reason, I have a fascination about shows that occurred around my birth. Can't put my finger on why. I think I try to picture what my parents were doing and how they were living at the time
Wow! I was so impressed with the soon to be iconic pro basketball player that I keep coming back to this video. Wilt Chamberlain exudes such confidence and I remember Farrah Fawcett talking about him. They were close neighbors in the neighborhood where Wilt BUILT his home to his special specifications. RIP dear Wilt Chamberlain😍
I became pretty interested in Joan Crawford's work after watching Feud and, ever since I started enjoying television shows and movies from the era. Joan is such a legend and shines through every piece of work she's in and this is no difference. And even though I came here to watch Crawford, I lasted through the entire video and was very entertained. Thanks for uploading; being able to watch this sort of footage is the closest we have to a time machine!
Very interesting episode. The store detective was quite a character... amazing to think she started working for the store in the 19th century! Nice to see Wilt Chamberlain... we're used to seeing tall ball players these days but something about him made him look positively gigantic. Joan Crawford... boy, do we have a different view of her now than they did then. I would have liked to hear more from the last guy... one of the real "Mad Men"!
+Purple Capricorn -- He's one of my favorite guests -- I love his deadpan delivery of funny lines. They're all the funnier because they're spoken as though they're serious comments when, in fact, they're humorous.
I enjoyed his late-night talk show on ABC in the late 1960's, opposite Johnny Carson, 11:30 p.m. to 1 a.m. He was funny and that serious delivery of funny lines worked so nicely. The only problem with "The Joey Bishop Show" was that his sidekick was Regis Philbin.
I LOVE Joan but I do not know whether I would have wanted to cross her....even here, in this mild "affair" she comes across as exquisitely FORMIDABLE!!... What a WARRIOR!!!............. Rest in Peace, Miss Crawford......
@@leesher1845 I agree, as a matter of fact, I sensed Crawford’s hypocrisy in this clip. There was something just not genuine in the way she smiled and moved. I read the book and absolutely believe every word .
@@leesher1845 Actually, neither of those two girls had anything to do with writing Mommy Dearest. It was her first daughter, Christina, that wrote the book.
@@brkitdwn I have been doing nothing all day today but watching things about Joan Crawford. Did you see the documentary made by friends and some family saying Christina was mentally ill and that book was all lies?? Pretty interesting. But I still get a vibe from her that she could be hard as nails!!
Culture, critical books and publishing, serious film and art are all being pushed to the margins of today's society in order to mass produce cheap entertainment, such is the attention span of an undereducated mass. WML was a reminder that art (books and plays) and refinement were still a vital part of American society, even if it did help mask what was happening in Vietnam and Selma.
Whenever you get a chance watch Joan Crawford on interviews. She had one of the most charming down to earth personalities I’ve ever seen. All I can think about when I see her is how magnificent she was. God bless you Joan🙏
At this time, Wilt was 24 years old, and was in his 2nd season in the NBA. He was only 1.5 years removed from playing with the Harlem Globetrotters, so Arlene's answer was not so off-the-wall. He had won MVP in his rookie season and had already essentially become the face of the sport, though a championship would elude him until 1967.
Well said. But then not everyone is interested in 'the show' like we are. Henry Fonda fans looking for Henry Fonda will get here and just spin forward to Henry Fonda. I'm here to watch the whole show each time because I willingly gave up my TV licence so this is 'my TV' watching for the evening, cast to my TV!! :)
Born in 73. LOVE ❤️ seeing THESE old classic shows and thank you for THOSE who make it possible for us to view them!!! More simple times and so much respect and knowing how to conduct theirselves!!!! NOT 🚫 like a bunch of ANIMALS who exist in our world in 2023!!!! THESE people are rolling over in their 🪦 Graves knowing how Ignorant and disrespectful people are THESE days!!!! How hard is it to REALLY treat people with class and dignity!!???? Apparently ALOT harder than imagined!!!!!? Parents somehow, somewhere have OBVIOUSLY FAILED!!!!!!!!! GOD BE WITH US!!!!!???
When I was a pup attending my first NBA game (Royals vs. Philadelphia at Cincinnati Gardens), I was like 12 years old and determined to get Oscar Robertson's autograph, and so I headed down onto the floor from our upper arena seats. I wandered around to where the locker rooms were located, and, to my surprise, out stepped Wilt. Instinctively, I just reached out and grabbed his giant hand and shook it. Oscar came out after a while and, thrusting my pen and program, he answered "After the game..." Cincy lost and Oscar wasn't in a mood to sign anything after the game. But I had shaken The Big Dipper's hand!!! True story.
Wow, that's interesting! I'm from Wisconsin and followed the Big O's career intently since he played for the Bucks, and he and Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were my two favorite players growing up, but it wasn't until recently that I heard that Robertson was not the friendliest person.
I think its because its something lacking in the world today..I grew up during this time and it had its bad times as well as good just as today has but overall ppl seemed to have manners.
I finally got to see the guy that wrote my favorite theme for WML. I always wanted a Jazz musician to play that piece. It's very much in the jazz genre.
Yes, many of us who've played jazz for 5 decades have always appreciated the very skillful composing talents of Sasha Burland.... the WML theme is a favorite.
My good friend had a son 7 feet 1 inch tall but he never played basketball. I have a cousin who's 6 feet 6 inches tall and played basketball in school. Thanks for this episode. Wilt not the stilt brings back memories.
Incredible. I was just going to comment upon the theme before the last guest came on. After several episodes the opening theme is burned into my brain but there's always something new to pick up from it. At the time, tunes like that were two a penny but nowadays that sort of arrangement is a lost art!
Meeting Joan surprised many fans. She was such a gigantic and established star people expected to find someone royal and aloof. That she never was. She was down to earth, warm, often witty and she loved meeting people. And adored babies meeting babies!
For those wondering about Bennett's comment about Joan Crawford and Pepsi, her late husband was a president of the company so she worked as a spokeswoman at the time.
She was indeed a spokeswoman for Pepsi. But she also became a member of the Board of Directors of the corporation, at a time when no women had ever been CEO of a Fortune 500 company. By the 1950s a few women were directors of Fortune 500 companies, mostly due to their status as widows of men who had been directors. Somewhat ironically, the first major corporation to have a female director was the Coca-Cola Company, some 25 years before Crawford became a director of Pepsi.
I wish she had not gone with the heavy brows and eye makeup. When she was starting out a cameraman said her face was built, but nobody was going to see it under all her fat. She immediately lost 20 lbs. She took thousands of pictures with photographer George Hurrell, she always wanted one more picture. She knew her youth and beauty were fleeting, thank God it was captured. The pictures are art.
@@sarasmith5110 Come on, at FIFTY-SEVEN she looks fantastic for the period-----before TODAY, when Dermatology has transformed women and stars that are 70 look 50----CHER being a rather, well, extreme example (grotesque, really) of what Science has accomplished cosmetically----a lot of those beautiful women (observe the great beauty of Vivien Leigh!) look old by the time they are fifty....A pity.....
As of this writing (May 30, 2016), only two people on this episode are still alive: Sascha Burland (born October 25, 1927) and Cathy Crawford (the shorter one) (born January 13, 1947). The others and date of death: Dorothy Kilgallen: November 8, 1965 Bennett Cerf: August 27, 1971 Joan Crawford: May 10, 1977 John Daly: February 24, 1991 Wilt Chamberlain: October 12, 1999 Arlene Francis: May 31, 2001 Cynthia Crawford: October 14, 2007 Joey Bishop: October 17, 2007 (just 3 days after Cynthia) It's safe to assume that Emily McAvoy passed away long ago.
Christina at this point was appearing in small roles in minor films. She was also doing summer stock theater. Also made the rounds of some talk shows. It's rather nice to see the twins. It's also clear from their body language that they respected and loved their mother. I'm not saying Christina is a liar. I believe her stories. Not everyone in Hollywood took Joan's side. Most prominently: Eve Arden and Helen Hayes sided with Christina in the brouhaha. Joan clearly treated the twins differently, and they responded in kind. Only two of the four adopted children are still alive. Christina and Cathy. Cynthia died in 2007 and Christopher passed away in September 2006.
Mrs. McAvoy, the store detective, is still alive as of May 10, 2017. She just celebrated her 139th birthday which makes her the oldest woman in the world. She can only work part time now, but last week she tackled a shoplifter and put him in a choke hold until police arrived.
@@janetcarlson31 Same here! Very disturbing, especially in reference to her having been caught shoplifting. MacAvoy probably paid special attention to Black customers.
TheWriterWalker Poor Bennett had trouble getting up on his chair while much younger Joey was on his and still shorter than impressive Wilt Chamberlain, the BIG DIPPER as he preferred to be called rather than Wilt the Stilt. RIP wonderful Christmas Wilt Chamberlain.
To an extent. Baseball was still king around this time. The NFL (and also the AFL pre-merger) was starting to make its ascent, as was the NBA. Had this been 1982 or 1991, or had he been Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, etc., then he would be a true Mystery Guest by WML standards.
Miss Crawford kinda reminds me of Sharon Stone. And I mean that in the best way. She's lovely. There is just something about her smile, eyes, that bring to mind Ms. Stone.
Did the mystery guests wait in the green room with the regular, everyday guests? Joan Crawford and that store detective, would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that green room
Wilt averaged 22.9 rebounds per game. He had more rebounds then attempts at a field goal. Almost 24,000 rebounds. One year he had 702 assists. He had a better FG pct then Free throws. One year he had 4029 points.
Wilt averaged 30 PPG for his career, and hit 54% of his shots from the floor. Bill Russell averaged 15 PPG and hit 44% of his shots for his career. Their rebounding and playmaking were comparable. Some think Russell was better because he won all those titles (11), but I say if you trade the two - put Wilt on Boston, they NEVER lose a title.
An a record that will never be broken: Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in one single regular season NBA GAME! NEVER EVER, BET YOUR LIFE, WILL THAT RECORD BE BROKEN!
@@janetcarlson31 yes. I also say Magic and Oscar were better than Michael. Look at their points scored per missed shot. Look at their dr and assists per minutes played. I grew up in Philly so I am biased for Wilt but wish he had Red Auerbach as his coach. Red was the real difference in favor of Boston back in the day.
Alas Jordan is not only the most clutch player with highest scoring average ever he is also an all time defender. So no..those two are not as good as him.
Great job by Wilt the Stilt on this show! I grew up in Wisconsin in the early 70s and remember well his duels with Kareem Abdul Jabbar (then named Lew Alcindor). He was a phenomenal athlete
I have never been much of a Joan Crawford fan, however, she was great in the pilot episode of Night Gallery and the movie Whatever Happened to Baby Jane!
What an interesting contrast: You have 7 ft.1 in. young Wilt Chamberlain followed by Mrs McAvoy, a diminutive elderly lady, and thus you've got yourself a most interesting and delightful program to watch! And added to those scenes are two of the panelists who stood up on their chairs to shake hands--at eye level--with Mr. Chamberlain; and then you catch a glimpse of Mr. Daly barely containing his delightful laughter over the innocent "antics" of Mrs. McAvoy! What an episode! What a joy to watch!
Great to see Joan Crawford. Sad to see all the comments here reflecting that she's been reduced to "wire hangers." The woman was born into poverty, was abused by a string of stepfathers, set herself on a path and managed to transform herself into one of the greatest actors of her time.
Super star Joan Crawford. The days when women dressed so glamorously and wore gloves. "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane Hudson?" and "Mildred Pierce" my two favorites.
I knew John was tall, and while he obviously didn't measure up to Wilt, I was surprised he wasn't dwarfed by him like the panelists. Sitting down, they were almost the same height (although perhaps they adjusted the seats for a better camera shot).
Actually it's the other way around - John was taller by a half inch or less. He was 6'1" whereas Bennett was 6 feet and just under an inch. They sometimes play argued over who was taller but they were almost exactly the same height.
@@sdacj No, John came on and when he and Bennett got into height talk before 7 footer Wilt Chamberlain came out, John conceded he was just a little shorter than Bennett. But poor li'l Joey Bishop was still shorter than Wilt even standing on chair. RIP gentlemen😍
Hmm....there was another episode where John said he was taller and Bennett accepted it. We will probably never know, especially the way they kidded each other all the time. All in good fun, though! As you say RIP to them.
Really enjoyed Ms. Crawford when she appeared on the Lucy Show. She was great. I have nothing but respect for her and Ms. Davis, those "broard shoulders broads" who started it all.
Bennett should not have zeroed in on the second guest's occupation so quickly. Although she pretty well gave it away when she announced right off the bat where she worked, Bennett might have been gracious enough to at least pretend that he he knew less than he did, thereby giving her more time with the panel.
I still think Wilt was the greatest player of all time. His athleticism, especially considering his height, was simply beyond belief. When I was a kid my family and I saw him in an airport and I was stunned. As a little kid it was unimaginable to me that a human could be that size.
The producers must have been sweating bullets when Mrs. McEvoy the store detective came on. First she gives away the company name she works for, and then she talks about that "colored" woman who stole the diamond ring. OMG
Galileocan g She really didn't seem to be all there. It's hard to believe she could have been an effective store detective, when she doesn't even seem to understand the point of the show she's on.
That was actually the "appropriate" and polite term in those days. "Black" was not in play until a few years later after the Civil Rights Movement, and "African-American" was a long way off. This woman was born in 1880, and 81 yrs old at this time, so expecting her to be socially forward-looking is a stretch. The NAACP stands for the "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People," hello.
Of possible interest is the fact that the last contestant, Sascha Burland, made a couple of comments on the 4/17/60 episode here on Gary's channel about his connection with the show (which was NOT his being a contestant on it).
Robert Melson He actually joined the Facebook group when I invited him, too, but unfortunately he's never left a comment on YT or FB since that one you mentioned.
Yes, he did! Under the name Granville Burland, but indeed he did leave a comment, which was quite a nice surprise. If you click this link, his comment SHOULD appear at the top, but if not, scroll around and you should find it. :) ua-cam.com/video/nQojxoQ7-RE/v-deo.html&lc=z12gypm4vxeviraaa04chtcijwrewp3omro0k
I loved the way the audience applauded when they asked about a “glamor girl”. Joan’s daughters had impeccable manners. When the shook hands they also curtsied slightly. What a wonderful and civilized time in our society. It would be nice to see a return of manners and civility.
@@joeambrose3260 It was posted by earlier, but then again someone else said she was still alive in 2017, the oldest woman alive at the time. But that’s almost hard to believe. I’ll have to check it out.
It was all posturing. It was the 60's and very early 70's. Lots of "faking" going on on TV. Are you basing this off of what you saw on TV? I lived it in real time from the 60's. Maybe you thought life at home should mimic the Brady Bunch. Again, it was all made up stuff. LIFE, as you think it was, was NOT like this. Tons of racism existed that you didn't see unless you were present during that time. If you believe this fluffy stuff, then you don't understand the propaganda that TV back during the 50's, 60's and 70's pushed. Even shows up in the 80's, 90's and beyond. All this coming from a (me) white dude!!
You Tube used to have just the Joan Crawford segment of this particular episode. It has since been pulled off, so now here is the full episode with said segment. That Joey Bishop line about the "woman who stole the diamond" right before Joan appeared makes more sense now in context. Wilt Chamberlain was okay. That detective lady was really out of her element. I'm wondering how effective could she be. Maybe it was just nerves for being on a TV show. And yes, she did say "colored". It was a different time folks. Cut her some slack. Then Ms. Crawford appears. I'm sure she told the show crew to have one of the panelists mention Pepsi-Cola by name. Creepiest part of her segment: when Joey Bishop mentions that John Daly thought of Bennett and himself when setting up dates. Meaning Joan's daughters (who were around 14 years old at this time) were for him and Bennett. Ewww! That was the most tasteless part of the show, not the "colored" reference.
@@donaldmanthei1224 I'd rather have WML? episodes untouched than to have any political incorrectness censored to soothe 2020 sensibilities. For better or for worse, white people in 1961 talked like that (especially people of Ms. McAvoy's age at the time-trust me on this: "colored" was the "nice" term from her with regards to African-Americans).
Since even African Americans founded the premier civil rights organization as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People...it's absurd to think this elderly white woman could be expected to have the foresight in 1962 that she would be cancelled by 21st century censors.
The panelists were some of the most busy people. When did they have time for all of the activities they were involved in. They had so much going on in their busy schedules and the self promotion was better than a publicity agent for them.
Don't see comments on the store detective, but I thought she was a hoot! Her exit w/ the very extended handshakes was also a "big smile"*, perhaps in part because she was shaking the hands of some big stars. *from the character Fenwick in the movie "Diner"
![What's My Line? - Henry Fonda; Gig Young [panel] (Jan 15, 1961)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ma8lL8-bwG4/mqdefault.jpg)
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Look at how Arlene and Dorothy stood up for that little old lady. They are so sweet.
Yes elderly people used to be given respect.
It’s called good manners. They did exist once.
I never tire of watching this program. I wish it were on today.
Who would come on? Tik tokkers?
I agree. I can think of any number of mystery guests and even professions that didn’t exist then. The real challenge would be to find another John Daly.
I was born in 1962 and for some reason, I have a fascination about shows that occurred around my birth. Can't put my finger on why. I think I try to picture what my parents were doing and how they were living at the time
Same!! 😁
I was born in 61 and find myself doing the same thing!
1959 for me!
They were earning a living and raising a family .
@@alexdadalt3441 Uh, okay, I guess.
Wow! I was so impressed with the soon to be iconic pro basketball player that I keep coming back to this video. Wilt Chamberlain exudes such confidence and I remember Farrah Fawcett talking about him. They were close neighbors in the neighborhood where Wilt BUILT his home to his special specifications. RIP dear Wilt Chamberlain😍
The best score for him was 5,000 women!
@@captainvin9009 actually wasn't it 10k women??
@@janetcarlson31His wikipedia page says his claim was 20,000 women.
"Are you Bette Davis?" would have been a funny question. Thank you for uploading; it is a pleasure to be able to view these shows from another time.
I really enjoyed the whole Whilt Chamberlain segment. How Bennett Cerf and Joey Bishop said goodbye was amusing 😃😄
Annoying too. Wilt The Stilt?? How insulting.
@@weedermann That was his nickname. He was used to it,
@@weedermann it’s no more insulting than Iron Mike Tyson. That was his billing
I became pretty interested in Joan Crawford's work after watching Feud and, ever since I started enjoying television shows and movies from the era. Joan is such a legend and shines through every piece of work she's in and this is no difference. And even though I came here to watch Crawford, I lasted through the entire video and was very entertained. Thanks for uploading; being able to watch this sort of footage is the closest we have to a time machine!
Wow, watching these episodes is like stepping back in time! Really a fascinating glimpse into a different era. Thank you so much for sharing these!
Very interesting episode. The store detective was quite a character... amazing to think she started working for the store in the 19th century! Nice to see Wilt Chamberlain... we're used to seeing tall ball players these days but something about him made him look positively gigantic. Joan Crawford... boy, do we have a different view of her now than they did then.
I would have liked to hear more from the last guy... one of the real "Mad Men"!
This is a fine example of the good entertainment provided by the show.
Joey Bishop is fast becoming on of my fave guest panelists.
+Purple Capricorn -- He's one of my favorite guests -- I love his deadpan delivery of funny lines. They're all the funnier because they're spoken as though they're serious comments when, in fact, they're humorous.
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It's hilarious. Ive seen him crack a few times though.
I enjoyed his late-night talk show on ABC in the late 1960's, opposite Johnny Carson, 11:30 p.m. to 1 a.m. He was funny and that serious delivery of funny lines worked so nicely. The only problem with "The Joey Bishop Show" was that his sidekick was Regis Philbin.
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Eek! I like Regis,but I don't think that was a good match up.
Purple Capricorn -- You're welcome to like Regis. I can't stand him myself.
I LOVE Joan but I do not know whether I would have wanted to cross her....even here, in this mild "affair" she comes across as exquisitely FORMIDABLE!!... What a WARRIOR!!!............. Rest in Peace, Miss Crawford......
Well one of those two daughters wrote the book mommy dearest. There was something “dark” and unsettling about her.
@@leesher1845 I agree, as a matter of fact, I sensed Crawford’s hypocrisy in this clip. There was something just not genuine in the way she smiled and moved. I read the book and absolutely believe every word .
@@leesher1845 Actually, neither of those two girls had anything to do with writing Mommy Dearest. It was her first daughter, Christina, that wrote the book.
@@brkitdwn I have been doing nothing all day today but watching things about Joan Crawford. Did you see the documentary made by friends and some family saying Christina was mentally ill and that book was all lies?? Pretty interesting. But I still get a vibe from her that she could be hard as nails!!
@Puccini Fan I thought the reference was to Joan Crawford being "dark and unsettling". She sure it! And the daughters looked frightened even here.
Thank you so much for uploading these episodes. TV did not always cater to the lowest common denominator as it all too often does now .
You got something against Duck Dynasty and Real Housewives of Orange County?
Culture, critical books and publishing, serious film and art are all being pushed to the margins of today's society in order to mass produce cheap entertainment, such is the attention span of an undereducated mass. WML was a reminder that art (books and plays) and refinement were still a vital part of American society, even if it did help mask what was happening in Vietnam and Selma.
Whenever you get a chance watch Joan Crawford on interviews. She had one of the most charming down to earth personalities I’ve ever seen. All I can think about when I see her is how magnificent she was. God bless you Joan🙏
Whenever you get a chance checkout her daughter’s Christina’s interview re her infamous autobiography Mommy Dearest.
Oh, you mean the book full of lies that was disputed by many? Joan's twins said she was an excellent mother. @@mona2242
A REAL WOMAN
@@mona2242oh whatever
At this time, Wilt was 24 years old, and was in his 2nd season in the NBA. He was only 1.5 years removed from playing with the Harlem Globetrotters, so Arlene's answer was not so off-the-wall. He had won MVP in his rookie season and had already essentially become the face of the sport, though a championship would elude him until 1967.
"Do you do any of your work on ice skates?"
"Not this year."
Great response. Wilt was charming and so accomplished at a young age. He's probably about 25 yrs old here. RIP Wilt😍
Joan's reception, the audience's reaction to her, must have given her great joy.
This was a fun episode! If you are one of those who only watch the mystery guest, you're missing a lot of hilarity!
You said it! The mystery guests are great, but usually I find the "regular" guest segments more entertaining overall.
Well said. But then not everyone is interested in 'the show' like we are. Henry Fonda fans looking for Henry Fonda will get here and just spin forward to Henry Fonda. I'm here to watch the whole show each time because I willingly gave up my TV licence so this is 'my TV' watching for the evening, cast to my TV!! :)
God watching shows from this time always makes me tear up, I just wish America was still this simple and elegant.
Leek America was NEVER so. That is why AMERICA is the anagram: I AM RACE. Sadly so it has been and remains in 2019:/
Sorry but racism existed
Leek I agree with you 👍
Angela Joseph You need help. Badly.
LegitPlays It did, it does, it always will. It’s human nature.
When Wilt Chamberlin came in John had such a delighted expression on his face.
Got to see him play during his last couple of years with the Lakers at The Forum. Massive talent. He was very graceful for his size.
bt10ant Basketball royalty. You lucky duck!
Born in 73. LOVE ❤️ seeing THESE old classic shows and thank you for THOSE who make it possible for us to view them!!! More simple times and so much respect and knowing how to conduct theirselves!!!! NOT 🚫 like a bunch of ANIMALS who exist in our world in 2023!!!! THESE people are rolling over in their 🪦 Graves knowing how Ignorant and disrespectful people are THESE days!!!! How hard is it to REALLY treat people with class and dignity!!???? Apparently ALOT harder than imagined!!!!!? Parents somehow, somewhere have OBVIOUSLY FAILED!!!!!!!!! GOD BE WITH US!!!!!???
When I was a pup attending my first NBA game (Royals vs. Philadelphia at Cincinnati Gardens), I was like 12 years old and determined to get Oscar Robertson's autograph, and so I headed down onto the floor from our upper arena seats. I wandered around to where the locker rooms were located, and, to my surprise, out stepped Wilt. Instinctively, I just reached out and grabbed his giant hand and shook it. Oscar came out after a while and, thrusting my pen and program, he answered "After the game..." Cincy lost and Oscar wasn't in a mood to sign anything after the game. But I had shaken The Big Dipper's hand!!! True story.
Wow, that's interesting! I'm from Wisconsin and followed the Big O's career intently since he played for the Bucks, and he and Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were my two favorite players growing up, but it wasn't until recently that I heard that Robertson was not the friendliest person.
I might have been at that game! 1967?
I loved it when Bennett and Joey stood on their chairs to shake Wilt’s hand. He was still almost taller than them.
And I loved when the store detective shook all their hands and they responded so warmly.
I'm gobsmacked. Joey Bishop shaking Wilt's hand on this show is the first time he actually made me laugh.
He was a cheeky fella, so I feel ya on that one. Was a cool move by him :-)
😂
You can tell Wilt was sick of those "tall" comments, but he took them with grace.
James Sn Those guys have been dealing with height related comments since they were little.
All the way to 1999 it's mostly all non-sports interviewers could seem to think to say to him
Although he might well have been tired of such things, he gave no indication of it on this episode.
one of my favorite basketball players of all time , Wilt Chamberlain
I love that sir. How people showed respect. I think the people on this show rock! They are cool!
I think its because its something lacking in the world today..I grew up during this time and it had its bad times as well as good just as today has but overall ppl seemed to have manners.
especially for authority figures--teachers, police, etc.
I finally got to see the guy that wrote my favorite theme for WML. I always wanted a Jazz musician to play that piece. It's very much in the jazz genre.
Yes, many of us who've played jazz for 5 decades have always appreciated the very skillful composing talents of Sasha Burland.... the WML theme is a favorite.
My good friend had a son 7 feet 1 inch tall but he never played basketball. I have a cousin who's 6 feet 6 inches tall and played basketball in school. Thanks for this episode. Wilt not the stilt brings back memories.
Incredible. I was just going to comment upon the theme before the last guest came on. After several episodes the opening theme is burned into my brain but there's always something new to pick up from it. At the time, tunes like that were two a penny but nowadays that sort of arrangement is a lost art!
Meeting Joan surprised many fans. She was such a gigantic and established star people expected to find someone royal and aloof. That she never was. She was down to earth, warm, often witty and she loved meeting people. And adored babies meeting babies!
And teaching children about hanging up their clothes properly and trimming roses.
She was fanatical
@@SymphonyBrahms And beating them if they didn't. . .
She was an Alcoholic monster who beat her kids
For those wondering about Bennett's comment about Joan Crawford and Pepsi, her late husband was a president of the company so she worked as a spokeswoman at the time.
She was indeed a spokeswoman for Pepsi. But she also became a member of the Board of Directors of the corporation, at a time when no women had ever been CEO of a Fortune 500 company. By the 1950s a few women were directors of Fortune 500 companies, mostly due to their status as widows of men who had been directors. Somewhat ironically, the first major corporation to have a female director was the Coca-Cola Company, some 25 years before Crawford became a director of Pepsi.
She was a spokeswoman/promoter of Pepsi Cola, and she was also on the Board of Directors.
Joan Crawford at the end , wow what a stunning looking lady for age 55.
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NO!....FIFTY-SEVEN!!!-----It has been -----finally----settled.....1904- 1977......
I wish she had not gone with the heavy brows and eye makeup. When she was starting out a cameraman said her face was built, but nobody was going to see it under all her fat. She immediately lost 20 lbs. She took thousands of pictures with photographer George Hurrell, she always wanted one more picture. She knew her youth and beauty were fleeting, thank God it was captured. The pictures are art.
@gcjerryusc well those are actually her real eyebrows, when she was younger she plucked them.
@@sarasmith5110 Come on, at FIFTY-SEVEN she looks fantastic for the period-----before TODAY, when Dermatology has transformed women and stars that are 70 look 50----CHER being a rather, well, extreme example (grotesque, really) of what Science has accomplished cosmetically----a lot of those beautiful women (observe the great beauty of Vivien Leigh!) look old by the time they are fifty....A pity.....
As of this writing (May 30, 2016), only two people on this episode are still alive: Sascha Burland (born October 25, 1927) and Cathy Crawford (the shorter one) (born January 13, 1947). The others and date of death:
Dorothy Kilgallen: November 8, 1965
Bennett Cerf: August 27, 1971
Joan Crawford: May 10, 1977
John Daly: February 24, 1991
Wilt Chamberlain: October 12, 1999
Arlene Francis: May 31, 2001
Cynthia Crawford: October 14, 2007
Joey Bishop: October 17, 2007 (just 3 days after Cynthia)
It's safe to assume that Emily McAvoy passed away long ago.
She retired in December of 1960, and was 88 at that point, so... Yeah, likely.
According to a Find A Grave entry attributed to Emily McAvoy was born in 1880 but no death date was given.
I wonder where Christina was?
Christina at this point was appearing in small roles in minor films. She was also doing summer stock theater. Also made the rounds of some talk shows. It's rather nice to see the twins. It's also clear from their body language that they respected and loved their mother. I'm not saying Christina is a liar. I believe her stories. Not everyone in Hollywood took Joan's side. Most prominently: Eve Arden and Helen Hayes sided with Christina in the brouhaha. Joan clearly treated the twins differently, and they responded in kind. Only two of the four adopted children are still alive. Christina and Cathy. Cynthia died in 2007 and Christopher passed away in September 2006.
Mrs. McAvoy, the store detective, is still alive as of May 10, 2017. She just celebrated her 139th birthday which makes her the oldest woman in the world. She can only work part time now, but last week she tackled a shoplifter and put him in a choke hold until police arrived.
I love the diamond brooch that Joan Crawford's wearing!💕
I do, too. Like her, it's stunningly beauuuuuutiful!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Having worked in retail from 1967 and retired in 2003. I understand the lady detective the things I have seen or heard makes me blush
Wilt The GOAT Chamberlain! That was dope seeing him in something away from the hardwood.
Just about a year later (more or less) was Wilt's 100 point game. Man! Still a point of reference in the sports world.
His best record is bedding 5,000 women
@@captainvin9009 I thought it was 10,000?
They were so kind to Mrs Mac Avoy. She was precious
I found it very disturbing to hear her describe one of the shoplifters as a 'colored' woman, in the same episode as having a black athlete.
@@janetcarlson31 Same here! Very disturbing, especially in reference to her having been caught shoplifting. MacAvoy probably paid special attention to Black customers.
Lovely to see the panel's consideration for an elderly person. There are those who would have liked to see her run off the show and cancelled.
LOL!!! Bennett and Joey's farewell gesture to Wilt is perfect!
TheWriterWalker Poor Bennett had trouble getting up on his chair while much younger Joey was on his and still shorter than impressive Wilt Chamberlain, the BIG DIPPER as he preferred to be called rather than Wilt the Stilt. RIP wonderful Christmas Wilt Chamberlain.
Joan Crawford is a great actress!They don't always give the last contestant enough time to answer the problem.
She was to me. You must think Kim Kardashian is a legend. @nickxero2740
I was born in the 60's as well. I love watching these as it reminds me of better times
Man, I miss Wilt.
Wonderful to see Joan Crawford, a classy lady all the way, and so charming! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Yes with the two children she didn’t abuse.
I like Wilts voice--sounds like a professor!!
To an extent. Baseball was still king around this time. The NFL (and also the AFL pre-merger) was starting to make its ascent, as was the NBA. Had this been 1982 or 1991, or had he been Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, etc., then he would be a true Mystery Guest by WML standards.
His voice like his PHYSIQUE changed dramatically by the end of his career.
Don't you think he sounds more like The Skipper rather than the Professor?
@@waldolydecker8118 😄
Miss Crawford kinda reminds me of Sharon Stone. And I mean that in the best way. She's lovely. There is just something about her smile, eyes, that bring to mind Ms. Stone.
sfbayareagirl Rather younger Sharon reminds you of Miss Crawford:-/
@@angelajoseph6709 yeah because of her hair style here
You mean Sharon Stone reminds you of Joan Crawford?
Did the mystery guests wait in the green room with the regular, everyday guests? Joan Crawford and that store detective, would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that green room
I very much doubt it.
I love to watch them sign their names and boy! did Joan have a great signature. I'm living for that "f" in Crawford :D
Such respect for her as an elderly woman, everyone stood up 🥰
It’s called Hollywood manners , not necessarily sincere respect. The entertainment business was & is one big cocktail show.
Mrs. McAvoy had been working at the store since 1897 - that's amazing!
She wasn’t that old, early 50’s… but it was Joan Crawford!
@@KevinMontreal she was 57
She only 57 😆 hardly elderly.
To be fair, she looks early 70's here
the store detective was great!! these eps are a lot of fun!
She was such a good actress. I enjoy so many of her movies.
These programmes are great. I'm in UK, we never got this. I was too young anyway.
John was so charming with the elderly lady.
Crawford has so much class
In front of the cameras, sure. But once the cameras were off, she was beating and neglecting her son and daughter, Christopher and Christina.
Mommy Dearest
@@georgiesinclair6951 I agree!
@@TheRetroGuy2000 pfff no
You haven’t seen mommy dearest huh
Wilt averaged 22.9 rebounds per game. He had more rebounds then attempts at a field goal. Almost 24,000 rebounds. One year he had 702 assists. He had a better FG pct then Free throws. One year he had 4029 points.
Wilt averaged 30 PPG for his career, and hit 54% of his shots from the floor. Bill Russell averaged 15 PPG and hit 44% of his shots for his career. Their rebounding and playmaking were comparable. Some think Russell was better because he won all those titles (11), but I say if you trade the two - put Wilt on Boston, they NEVER lose a title.
An a record that will never be broken: Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in one single regular season NBA GAME! NEVER EVER, BET YOUR LIFE, WILL THAT RECORD BE BROKEN!
@@robbybonfire9944 Would you say he was better than Jordan?
@@janetcarlson31 yes. I also say Magic and Oscar were better than Michael. Look at their points scored per missed shot. Look at their dr and assists per minutes played. I grew up in Philly so I am biased for Wilt but wish he had Red Auerbach as his coach. Red was the real difference in favor of Boston back in the day.
Alas Jordan is not only the most clutch player with highest scoring average ever he is also an all time defender. So no..those two are not as good as him.
Great job by Wilt the Stilt on this show! I grew up in Wisconsin in the early 70s and remember well his duels with Kareem Abdul Jabbar (then named Lew Alcindor). He was a phenomenal athlete
I have never been much of a Joan Crawford fan, however, she was great in the pilot episode of Night Gallery and the movie Whatever Happened to Baby Jane!
What a lovely episode
100 points. 1 game. Hershey arena. My dad was there
What an interesting contrast: You have 7 ft.1 in. young Wilt Chamberlain followed by Mrs McAvoy, a diminutive elderly lady, and thus you've got yourself a most interesting and delightful program to watch! And added to those scenes are two of the panelists who stood up on their chairs to shake hands--at eye level--with Mr. Chamberlain; and then you catch a glimpse of Mr. Daly barely containing his delightful laughter over the innocent "antics" of Mrs. McAvoy! What an episode! What a joy to watch!
Wilt has impeccable penmanship. ☺
Cynthia and Cathy are adorable.
Great to see Joan Crawford. Sad to see all the comments here reflecting that she's been reduced to "wire hangers." The woman was born into poverty, was abused by a string of stepfathers, set herself on a path and managed to transform herself into one of the greatest actors of her time.
Super star Joan Crawford. The days when women dressed so glamorously and wore gloves. "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane Hudson?" and "Mildred Pierce" my two favorites.
"Humoresque", "Possessed", and "Harriet Craig" are also very good.
@reina coffee - It was "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane" - not "Hudson".
@@SymphonyBrahms IMO, she should have gotten the Oscar for Possessed!! She was so good in that!!!
Wish dorothy had been able to get her papers to the public about jfk
@gcjerryusc of course not. 'Evidence ' found a way of disappearing, depending on the scenario.
Me too!
Yep Manuel.
Read Vincent Bugliosi's book "Reclaiming History" he debunks all the conspiracy nonsense, including any regarding Ms. Kilgallen.
@@Satyric7 thank you for suggestion
Wilt was the best !!!!!
Crawford had pure glamour--today's 'stars' dress in flip flops and look like bums.
Dumb bitches wear flip flops in public.
windstorm1000
Wearing slippers these days out of the house is so atrocious
You mean... they dress like they want to like regular people? How dare they!
Her secret to looking so glamorous was not using wire hangers-- in her closet!
they have fans who made them rich, they owe it to the fans although i wouldnt waste my breath on any ''celebrity'' today.
Wilt Chamberlain... my favorite player
+Patti Whitington you & 20,000 other women................
No I grew up watching him play. Love me basketball worth watching.
+orgonko the wildly untamed Paul Pierce fer me :)
He does have the best nickname in all of sports. The Big Unit being number 2.
Wow they stood up on chairs and were still shorter than the basketball player
I knew John was tall, and while he obviously didn't measure up to Wilt, I was surprised he wasn't dwarfed by him like the panelists. Sitting down, they were almost the same height (although perhaps they adjusted the seats for a better camera shot).
@@alskndlaskndal Bennett Cerf was taller than John by a fraction of an inch.
Actually it's the other way around - John was taller by a half inch or less. He was 6'1" whereas Bennett was 6 feet and just under an inch. They sometimes play argued over who was taller but they were almost exactly the same height.
@@sdacj No, John came on and when he and Bennett got into height talk before 7 footer Wilt Chamberlain came out, John conceded he was just a little shorter than Bennett. But poor li'l Joey Bishop was still shorter than Wilt even standing on chair. RIP gentlemen😍
Hmm....there was another episode where John said he was taller and Bennett accepted it. We will probably never know, especially the way they kidded each other all the time. All in good fun, though! As you say RIP to them.
God, the poor lady contestant really needed a hearing-aid, among other things.
From the next generation, I had not realised until now, just how outstandingly beautiful was. (It's 2021 now.)
I am 5’10”. In 1954 in a church basketball league I jumped center against him. I lost!
Scotch-Irish. 1880 - 1963 RIP .. I love ya Mrs McAvoy!
Really enjoyed Ms. Crawford when she appeared on the Lucy Show. She was great. I have nothing but respect for her and Ms. Davis, those "broard shoulders broads" who started it all.
You mean men? JC was a man.
@@Amandadances1983 ugh i hate when people disrespect people they have never met, and in my opinion shes a gorgous glamour girl
Bennett should not have zeroed in on the second guest's occupation so quickly. Although she pretty well gave it away when she announced right off the bat where she worked, Bennett might have been gracious enough to at least pretend that he he knew less than he did, thereby giving her more time with the panel.
Wilt really handles himself well. He works that camera and responses like a non-sports celebrity
he was very well spoken
Those Cigar Eyebrows always made her look older harder cross & mean..i cant believe not a soul told her to lighten them up. But, alas they are iconic
Please don't hate. I hate haters
The thick eyebrows and the bony cheeks were her trademark.
@@SymphonyBrahms as were the shoulder pads
I still think Wilt was the greatest player of all time. His athleticism, especially considering his height, was simply beyond belief. When I was a kid my family and I saw him in an airport and I was stunned. As a little kid it was unimaginable to me that a human could be that size.
The producers must have been sweating bullets when Mrs. McEvoy the store detective came on. First she gives away the company name she works for, and then she talks about that "colored" woman who stole the diamond ring. OMG
Galileocan g She really didn't seem to be all there. It's hard to believe she could have been an effective store detective, when she doesn't even seem to understand the point of the show she's on.
+Galileocan g -- Clearly the woman was no longer playing with a full deck.
And she made the "colored woman" reference right after Wilt Chamberlain had appeared as a contestant, too.
That was actually the "appropriate" and polite term in those days. "Black" was not in play until a few years later after the Civil Rights Movement, and "African-American" was a long way off. This woman was born in 1880, and 81 yrs old at this time, so expecting her to be socially forward-looking is a stretch. The NAACP stands for the "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People," hello.
Galileocan g Doesn't matter how politically correct she was. Today, identifying someone by their ethnicity would be a big no-no today.
I like the way she subtly got back in a verbal way at those asking borderline offensive questions
Of possible interest is the fact that the last contestant, Sascha Burland, made a couple of comments on the 4/17/60 episode here on Gary's channel about his connection with the show (which was NOT his being a contestant on it).
Robert Melson He actually joined the Facebook group when I invited him, too, but unfortunately he's never left a comment on YT or FB since that one you mentioned.
What facebook group is this?
facebook.com/groups/728471287199862/
I think I recall seeing Sascha Burland commenting on one of these WML UA-cam videos. Does anyone else remember? He's 89 in 2017.
Yes, he did! Under the name Granville Burland, but indeed he did leave a comment, which was quite a nice surprise. If you click this link, his comment SHOULD appear at the top, but if not, scroll around and you should find it. :) ua-cam.com/video/nQojxoQ7-RE/v-deo.html&lc=z12gypm4vxeviraaa04chtcijwrewp3omro0k
LMFAO at Bennett Cerf and Joey Bishop for Chamberlain!
I loved the way the audience applauded when they asked about a “glamor girl”. Joan’s daughters had impeccable manners. When the shook hands they also curtsied slightly. What a wonderful and civilized time in our society. It would be nice to see a return of manners and civility.
She beat them if they didn't curtsy.
Those younger adopted daughters of Joan's were lucky. They didn't catch the hell that Christina and her brother had to endure at Crawford's hands.
@Tania Orlov Tinn Lady please with that. And how would these other people, whom you CHOOSE to believe, know what went on behind closed doors?
that woman from the department store was adorable !
Greatest athlete of all time.
@@Great-Documentaries - There is no one greatest, and all the wind pipes yappin' that there is are lying. They are BOTH all time greats.
Wild to think that they even had to let the audience know who he was beforehand
Wow Wilt chamberlain in his PRIME.
This was a really fun show, Wilt Chamberlain look good back then
Mrs. McAvoy. Everyone needs one of her in their life. Charming!
How have I not seen this one, love wilt
I looked the name of the detective up. Looks like she lived from 1880-1963.
Please post proof positive pronto
@@joeambrose3260 It was posted by earlier, but then again someone else said she was still alive in 2017, the oldest woman alive at the time. But that’s almost hard to believe. I’ll have to check it out.
Joan Crawford had a beautiful and very fascinating smile 😊
the way joan looks into the camrea at 16:42 my god she is breathtaking
She's a dude
@@Amandadances1983 what's your problem?!
@@waynej2608 no problem. Joan Crawford is a man, though.
@@Amandadances1983 Are you trying to sound absurd? What is your profoundly bizarre assertion based on? It's foolish to call Joan a man. Really.
America used to be so simple...and beautiful. What happened to us?
U must be old & n denial! The world was NEVER simple.
Our Country has been influenced by Socialism and Liberalism for too many years, buckle up as it may get worst.
you used to have slavery and killed millions of natives ..the fuck are you talking about
It was all posturing. It was the 60's and very early 70's. Lots of "faking" going on on TV. Are you basing this off of what you saw on TV? I lived it in real time from the 60's. Maybe you thought life at home should mimic the Brady Bunch. Again, it was all made up stuff. LIFE, as you think it was, was NOT like this. Tons of racism existed that you didn't see unless you were present during that time. If you believe this fluffy stuff, then you don't understand the propaganda that TV back during the 50's, 60's and 70's pushed. Even shows up in the 80's, 90's and beyond. All this coming from a (me) white dude!!
Marxism and hate.
You Tube used to have just the Joan Crawford segment of this particular episode. It has since been pulled off, so now here is the full episode with said segment. That Joey Bishop line about the "woman who stole the diamond" right before Joan appeared makes more sense now in context. Wilt Chamberlain was okay. That detective lady was really out of her element. I'm wondering how effective could she be. Maybe it was just nerves for being on a TV show. And yes, she did say "colored". It was a different time folks. Cut her some slack. Then Ms. Crawford appears. I'm sure she told the show crew to have one of the panelists mention Pepsi-Cola by name. Creepiest part of her segment: when Joey Bishop mentions that John Daly thought of Bennett and himself when setting up dates. Meaning Joan's daughters (who were around 14 years old at this time) were for him and Bennett. Ewww! That was the most tasteless part of the show, not the "colored" reference.
Calling Arlene's dress a muumuu was pretty low on the tact scale.
It was a different time but...
@@donaldmanthei1224 I'd rather have WML? episodes untouched than to have any political incorrectness censored to soothe 2020 sensibilities. For better or for worse, white people in 1961 talked like that (especially people of Ms. McAvoy's age at the time-trust me on this: "colored" was the "nice" term from her with regards to African-Americans).
Since even African Americans founded the premier civil rights organization as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People...it's absurd to think this elderly white woman could be expected to have the foresight in 1962 that she would be cancelled by 21st century censors.
The panelists were some of the most busy people. When did they have time for all of the activities they were involved in. They had so much going on in their busy schedules and the self promotion was better than a publicity agent for them.
Well *that* was interesting with Joan Crawford’s daughters considering what we now know 🤔
What do we now know? I am not very familiar with her.
Well the twins weren’t the ones who complained it was Christopher and Christina
Doubt they had any choice to be there. Mommy dearest called all the shots.
The two young women looked fatigued and recessive. We now know why, after "Mommy Dearest," which may have told only part of the history.
Am I the only one to have noticed the goose egg on the one's forehead...?
Don't see comments on the store detective, but I thought she was a hoot! Her exit w/ the very extended handshakes was also a "big smile"*, perhaps in part because she was shaking the hands of some big stars. *from the character Fenwick in the movie "Diner"