If your FIVR voltage cannot be changed, your CPU voltage control may be locked by your laptop's manufacturer. You can check your PC's model online and see if anyone has come up with solutions to enable voltage controls on your laptop's model, such as through BIOS settings or flashing a different version BIOS. Some laptops though, you won't be able to get past the voltage control lock. In that case, you won't be able to undervolt, but you should still be able to play around with the other settings mentioned in the video (such as adjusting Power Limits (PL))
My God, I should've done this *months* ago! Went from resting temp of 70 down to 50, and load temp of 100 down to 75-80, with practically no performance loss. Hopefully, my long trials of random, seemingly incurable framerate drops are over. It's worth noting though that TS has updated its UI since this video, and things seem to have been moved, changed or renamed. An updated video *might* be warranted, but I got along just fine myself. :) Thanks so much!
@@russiachan2 all i had to do was follow this video up to the TPL stuff, which I couldnt do, and it almost completely cured my hard stutters. not completely, but some games (of DRG) have zero issues, some do, but used to be all. now it's uncommon (daily, but i play a lot)
Some people dig straightforward videos that lasts up to 3 minutes at most, while some desires for detailed tutorials that lasts up to 20 minutes on average. This however, stands between the two and the one I liked the most. Every significant feature is explained briefly and steps ain't gonna mess with an amateur's brain. No convulsive intros, no plugs, no bullshit - just your rare detailed tutorial that wouldn't eat too much of your precious time. Undervolting may seem overwhelming and intimidating, but with the right videos like this, you'd be giving your laptop's CPU one hell of a favor. I've nothing to do so I decided to write a short review as send-off to my consistently 93°C CPU temp while gaming.
Went from 3hrs to 5hrs of battery life on my locked cpu laptop. Wish I could under-volt but the further steps described here are exactly what I needed!
Hi, could you make a video with the latest version of Throttlestop? some options don't appear in the current version and I'm not really sure if I did everything correctly :D Overall, really good video and explanation
The battery on my MS Surface Pro of about 7 years died last year and just recently the CPU slowed such that programming on it was a nightmare. With ThrottleStop it appears that I am now able to resume using my laptop as normal - or until it burns up ; ) Thanks for making ThrottleStop available.
Thanks a lot for this guide!, Just by adjusting the speedshift to 16 I reduced my temp from 70 to 35-40 and stopped my i9 from throttling from top speed to 800 every minute!! didn't even need to lower the voltage
Great Video that helped me get better gaming performance. But I'm a bit confused about the TS Bench. I have a i7-8565U and can undervolt my CPU Cache to ~-90mV till i start getting Errors. But when i started to undervolt my Core more i was able to get -250mV with no Errors, but was afraid to test further. So my Question is: Can you test with TSBench if you are stable if you only increase the undervolting for the core but not the cache? Since -90mV and -250mV seem like an insane difference. I haven't started changing TPL (because of the new UI) and i get the red "Power" Limit indicator during tests. If you need any info just ask. Help would be greatly appreciated
I have the same thing happening, have a thinkpad with i7 8650u and the core is at -260 ish however the cache can only go to -90 UPDATE: pushed core to -400. cache is still -90 and everything else is -50 Update 2: -500 holy shit
Great video! Best video I’ve ever seen in regards to explaining the settings and what they do. I have a question If I’m getting the PL2 notification, do I need to increase or decrease the value that is set? I’m currently using a i9750H
PL2 means that you are hitting the limit of how much power you allow the cpu to take. If you have the thermal headroom, you can increase the power limit. Increasing the PL will increase the wattage consumed, so it will increase heat output but you will also get better performance because the cpu is getting more power. So the answer to your question is it depends on what you want to do. Hitting power limit is completely normal as all you're doing is limiting the amount of power the cpu is allowed to take. If you let the CPU take as much power as it wants, you're gonna thermal throttle due to too much heat output. If you want cooler temps at the cost of lowered performance, you can decrease the PL
This guide was awesome. I was able to get my temp below the 90's. I think I just need some new thermal paste and some cleaning but it's helped a bit. I did get a blue screen trying to go -170 or -180. So I think -160 is the sweet spot. Still says it's thermal throttling, though. lol
Thanks! I have a very hot laptop (Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 with an i7-4710HQ) and this helped me make its thermals... not as atrocious. A few notes from my experience: 1. Before increasing the undervolt, you should test the laptop in real action. I tried to undervolt the CPU by 75 mV and it seems stable in tests, but when playing PUBG I had the computer crash. 2. For some laptops, such as mine, the "Disable Turbo" option is useful and actually a game changer. My CPU throttles HARD when in turbo boost even when undervolted, so keeping it at base frequency makes the performance way more stable.
explain every setting. I want to learn everything and you have the best video on YT about throttle stop so please make a video explaining each option and setting.
For undervolting, I've seen forums mention that Intel GPU and iGPU unslice should have the same undervolt. Same goes for CPU core, CPU cache, and system agent (although I'm not sure about the last one, since I can't find anything about it on the internet)
thank you for this great guide, my CPU is locked so could adjust volts but still a great guide non the less for me, any hope of doing a updated guide given the UI change?
Even after so much time and DELL disabling VOLT control through subsequent BIOS updates, managed to get it all to work in my dell xps. made me go from a thermally incompetent machine to one that never throttles and is better performing + stable.
For Lenovo Legions, will Performance settings (High Performance/Balanced) override Lenovo Vantage Thermal Settings (Performance/Balance/Quite)? And will Throttlestop Performace sttings be applied at all if the first box under Performance stays unticked?
I need some help. On my Legion Y540-15IRH with an i7-9750H, I’m having thermal throttling even with -150mV for an undervolt on both the core and cache. I even tried just setting the all core to 4.0 so that none of the cores would boost higher than that, and whej I run Aida64 and Heaven benchmark (stable and doesnt crash with undervolt) I get serious throttling dropping clocks down to 3.0-3.5. CPU consistently reaches 94-100 degrees. I’m using Throttlestop 9.5 newest, which is mostly the same except for a few things. What else can I change to get better temps?? Should I make the all core lower like 3.7GHz? Didnt mess with the TPL values, believe long PL1 is 70 and short PL2 is 107 by default
Thank you a lot. As i have Acer and did have big problem with Temp did have like 88 'C was very hot now thanks to you is 70 'C it is of course a lot but better. Was curios can i lower temperature even more ? I have two more questions, first, when I made an offset voltage on Core and Cache and restarted the laptop, only these settings seemed to return to 0 and not to -70, do you know why? and when is set to Performance Mode but i don't want the speed at 3.4Ghz all the time, but let's say as a Balance little bit lower than little bit higher can i do that and how?
Thank you jedi! I have one question on running TS at startup: I have set everything as shown in the forum thread linked in the description, but I never find TS in the tray area and have to start it manually. Is it possible that, on Windows 11, there's a different procedure for running it at startup?
I'm not aware of Win 11 changing the functions of task scheduler. Have you checked if TS was maybe running in the background in task manager, but not showing up in the tray area? If TS is shown as running in the task manager, you may have unchecked the "notification area icon" option in the TS options menu.
I don't remember what I did exactly, but now I have ThrottleStop running at Windows startup and it shows in the tray area. Anyway, thank you for your time!
Could you explain more the PL1 and PL2 values? How do they affect performance/temperature and how do we calculate PL2 (PL1 is just your total voltage during GPU + CPU tests if I understood you correctly)?
So you'll first want to understand the differences between voltage, amps, and wattage. If this was a water pipe, volt is the water pressure, amps is how wide the pipe is, and wattage is the total water flow. A wider pipe would of course allow more water to flow, and higher water pressure would also allow more water to flow. Therefore, wattage is calculated as volt * amps = watts. Watts can be thought of as how much electricity is being used. Power Limit: how many watts the component is allowed to use. For example, a CPU with a 45w power limit will be limited to 45w of power max. For intel, these are separated into PL1 and PL2. PL2 is the short term power limit, where a processor can use more power for a short amount of time before PL1 kicks in, which is the long term power limit. For example, a CPU with a PL1 of 45w may boost to 60w with PL2 for 30 seconds before dropping down to 45w. As the name implies, this is how much power your cpu is allowed to have, which means more power = more performance. However, all that electricity is energy, and that energy gets converted to heat in the processor. So the more electricity you use, the more heat you produce. More wattage = more performance = more heat
@@jedi22300 So if a CPU has a PL2 = 45w and it consumes 45w under a stress test, enabling Power Limit Control and making PL2 = 60w (for example) won't change anything, the CPU isn't gonna consume more than 45w in a long test anyway? You just can just reduce the PL to decrease performance/heat, that's it?
@@slavavr Increasing the PL2 to 60w will only increase the short term power limit to 60w. So it'll allow it to pull 60w for a little bit but that's it. If you want more performance over long term, you'd want to increase both PL2 and PL1 to 60w so that it can pull 60w
@@jedi22300 I wrote PL2 instead of PL1, sorry. So if a CPU pulls 45w under a stress test and you increase PL1 to 60w it won't change anything, the CPU won't consume more wattage anyway?
I have got an 8750H I am trying to undervolt rn, and with power limit disabled my CPU is getting 60w under a stress test in AIDA. I tried to enable power limit and set PL1 to 70w for example (and kept PL2 = 90w), and it changed nothing, the wattage stayed the same, around 60w. I watched a couple throttlestop videos where the guys set their PL1 to the wattage their CPUs consumed in a stress test, but is that no different from not enabling power limits at all?
hi, my Unlock adjustable voltage is locked. how can I unlock it? I have a Gigabyte G5 KC laptop edit: i fixed it with insyde tool. thanks for the video
Aorus 15p xc have problems with overheating and blackscreen in many games, on low/medium/high settings. Cant undervolt, cant turn on it in that program, why ?
I don't have the box that says "Disable and lock turbo power limits". Is this located somewhere else in 2024? The process as shown still works for me, just wondering if it's something to dig more for or not.
Very VERY and I can't stress this enough VERY FUCKING HELPFUL VIDEO went from 88c down to 71-73c while gaming! Easy to understand and so fucking glad to find this video
Recently (well, literally a year and a few months ago) I factory reset my laptop, after doing so undervolting has done absolutely nothing to my performance, before I was getting maybe even 3x the fps I usually get, but now there is pretty much no difference, I've seen nobody else have this problem. Update: I have fixed the problem, I had to disable any "windows features" to do with virtuality and disable intel virtuality features in the BIOS. Update 2: Performance has improved a lot but I get some HUGE throttling and my laptop heats up more than usual, any help?
Hey so this odd thing is going on for me so before I had the cpu core and cache at around -100mv each, When I tried to lower cpu core to something absurd like -250mv to test if it was acually applying the laptop crashed. Now I have my cpu cache at -85mv and My cpu core can just go to -250mv -1000mv without crashing but obviously its not actually going to those numbers, how would I get it to start crashing again at high undervolts? Also should I have like -85mv cache and the biggest core undervolt possible or like 90-mv cache and -110mv core?
Just the video needed to see. Although, I think something is wrong with my CPU. Doesn't matter if I change anything on TPL, it keeps showing in "Limit Reasons" the PL2 in yellow and Thermal at the Core column after every test bench, also the the EDP Other is always showing on RING. I'm doing something wrong?
could you please make a video explaining the tpl part? my laptop is thermal throttling when I did the test you put in the desc, and I don't know what to do 😅
when talking about the power limits numbers do you mean the numbers next to clamp or in miscellaneous? My misc numbers are Min 1 and max 35 while the clamp numbers are exact as yours.
Great video! You explained the program better than anyone else. I have a question, I have a core i7-9700k CPU, by default my PL1 is 95 and PL2 is 210. Are my numbers ridiculously high? I think my CPU overheating problem is because of my high PL’s. What do you think?
@@jedi22300 I have a PC. By overheating I mean, when gaming my CPU temps easily reach 70-80c,sometimes past 90c and in very cpu intensive games even 100c! I have been using throttlestop for a couple of months and undervolting the CPU core and cache won’t do much for my temp’s, the most impacting for me is reducing the turbo ratio limits by 2,3 numbers. With this change my temp’s never go higher than 80c under max load But the downside is of course it decreases the performance a bit, so I am curious that maybe my PL1 and PL2 are the culprit?
@@parsatww7115 100c is definitely hot! Actually if it's a desktop PC, I wanna ask if you've looked at the hardware first to cool it? Desktop PCs generally have pretty good cooling. Things to consider are dusty heatsinks and fans, fans that aren't running fast enough, old/bad thermal paste, inadequate airflow (could opening the side panel improve thermals?) If it's a really cheap heatsink or whatnot, then yeah I'd say your power limit is the culprit. If your computer is overheating at 95 watts of load, then you can lower that. However again though I will say that desktops can *usually* handle more than 95w without overheating so I'd definitely look into some of the things I mentioned earlier
@@jedi22300 You have made some good suggestions, I will definitely check the fans and thermal paste,Thanks. The weird thing is, my GPU temps are excellent, I have never seen my GPU even reach 70c when overclocked and under heavy load. The only problem is the CPU, in my opinion the PC case has decent airflow because I can feel the air flowing when I look closely inside my pc lol.
Please is it possible to undervolt Intel i5 13500H on my Lenovo LOQ laptop? I cannot click anything in FIVR, all options are grayed out. I heard that intel disabled undervolting for CPUs of 12th and 13th generation. Any idea?
Finally understood throttlestop at last but still I got a problem on my laptop ..... I have a MSI GF65 Thin RTX 3060 i5 10500h and I did some undervolting with some videos I found from UA-cam but my games keep crashing when I play them probably within 10-15 minutes during gameplay.... Can you suggest some particular reason that it happens as said?
Does it only crash if you have the undervolt applied? You can test by removing the undervolt and seeing if crashes continue. If it only crashes with the undervolt applied, it probably means you undervolted too much
how come I can set both cpu core and cpu P cache to -1000mV without any errors as a I5 12600k. Is it bugged for me or not activating the undervolt for me?
hey i have problem, i cannot check the unlock adjustable voltage box. so i cannot adjust anything at all. how can i fix this? and whats the problem in the first place?
It could be that your laptop model or CPU has a locked voltage control, which means undervolting has been blocked by either your laptop's manufacturer or by intel. It's possible you may be able to unlock it somehow depending on the laptop though. You can try to google your laptop's model and how to undervolt it and see if anyone else online has figured out a solution.
can i set a maximum cpu clock speed and then set the voltage? if yes, how can i do it? I have an i7 10750 and I would like to maximize the clock speed to 3.5 GHz so as to minimize its use and keep temperatures low and stay with high performance
I know this video has its time, but i have a question, im having EDP Other always showing (yellow) on "GPU" and "RING", and sometimes it also shows on "CPU" its always yellow. Is it okay to have this (my computer lifespan wont get affected), if not, is possible to solve? Thanks :)
Hmm, what CPU is this? You can try increasing the PP0 current limit (in TPL) and ICCMax values (in FIVR) and see if that gets rid of it. Otherwise, it also just seems to be normal to have EDP other showing up (as long as it's not actively red and on all three columns)
I have a core i7 11700kf processor, I have appeared in the limits EDP OTHER? what does it mean ? and what should I do to remove it, oh yes, it is yellow not red
in the FIVR above the CPU core and the CPU cache instead of saying FIVR control it says not available and i cant change any of the values for the CPU core or cache, is there a way to solve this
Hey man I've watched this vid a few times and from my understanding you say to not mess with Turbo Ratio limits because it can cause massive performance lost and you recommend instead lowering turbo time limits? I notice my temps get really low with turbo ratio limits tweaks but my fps suffers so much from it. TLDR : How can I lower temps using power limit controls and turbo power limits. Instead of messing with Turbo Ratio limits causing FPS loss
I would also want to know why he said that. My understanding is that there is no clear answer. He might not be Throttlestop expert but just sharing what works best for him.
hey dude, i know its 2 years later, but i just want to ask should i touch any other profile you didnt mention like game for example, or just performance and battery profiles are good enough?
After doing the undervolt,, do we need to always open the app when we use the computer? Or after doing this , undervolt is applied until you change the settings again ?
You'll need to launch TS every time in order for the undervolt to apply. You can make that process automatic which I show at the end of the video. If you delete Throttlestop, it'll remove your undervolt the next time you boot up
@@TechnoVillage2024 you just have to delete the throttlestop folder and then restart your computer to uninstall. Where that throttlestop folder is depends on where you put it when you first downloaded it. I put it in my program files folder, but you might put it somewhere else, or maybe it's still in your downloads folder?
Thanks dude, everyone understood (almost) but the autoload method with Windows does not work. I would be glad if you help me solve it. And the video is great! Спасибо чувак, все понял ( почти) но способ автозагрузки вместе с виндовс- не работает. Буду рад, если поможешь её решить. А так видео- супер !
Hey, are you talking about using task scheduler? If the guide was hard to follow, you can look up something similar to "how to launch a program using task scheduler." Task scheduler can launch any program in windows. In this case we are launching throttlestop. Hopefully that helps.
it's great for my use Dell 3050 stuck at a low speed (known silly Dell condition) , now i made it run @startup folder and for my problem Dell works, in fact I got real improvement from 2.7Ghz to 3.1GHz and not fixed for ever at .79Ghz!, ok question??? how do I reopen the GUI interface as TS is already running from startup, it says "cannot open as TS already running" Is there a work around as I'd now like to see the chip temps / play with it about from auto-boot !! ? Hope this makes sense ! Thanks for this amazing program I didnt know that you could get at the CPU/clocks in that way !!!!
TS should be in your taskbar (you might have to click the little up arrow to show more open apps). If it's not there, then your TS setting might be set to not show icon in taskbar. To change that, you can close TS from task manager, reopen it, then go to options and change that setting.
@@jedi22300 ok great, thanks, was tired missed that flag due to 35C heat all day and defunct Honda car ... nice software with surprising results. I am buying more of these for the lab (radio) so I dont have to put up with old large noisy boxes, I'll see how I do or if this was just a one off 🙂
@@jedi22300 ok ill try that ive just upped all my PCs to windoze 10 (for free) so many things have changed as per usual, as I used legacy taskbars/start stuff before, thanks 🙂
90w?! What laptop came with such a small power brick jeez. You can try and decrease the power limit. The power limit is how many watts the CPU is allowed to pull, so decreasing this should decrease the amount of power the CPU uses, which is what you're looking for. I don't exactly recall how TS worked on 4th gen processors, but if you're not able to control the power limit, then underclocking will also result in less power used. I'm not sure if this helps, but perhaps a larger power brick is worth looking into? It is possible that the laptop software will prevent over 90w of usage regardless, but here's an article just in case you're interested askleo.com/can_i_use_a_power_supply_with_a_higher_wattage_rating_on_my_laptop/
@@jedi22300 Its a "multimedia" Dell Inspiron, didn't cut to be a gaming laptop I guess. Hey thanks so much for the resources here! Hope you don't mind that I sent a discord invite too. BTW should an upgrade to 130w be sufficient? 150w and 180w is just too expensive for my budget. EDP Current and PL1&2 are what blinks red during the stress tests. During gaming load, FPS would just tank for around 30 seconds then goes back up.
@@agoogleuser9025 Yes 130w should be enough for those specs. I won't really accept random friend requests sorry, but you can feel free to ping me in my server or DM me. FPS tanking sounds a bit like something related to thermals. You may want to make sure you're not thermal throttling the cpu/gpu while playing
If your FIVR voltage cannot be changed, your CPU voltage control may be locked by your laptop's manufacturer. You can check your PC's model online and see if anyone has come up with solutions to enable voltage controls on your laptop's model, such as through BIOS settings or flashing a different version BIOS.
Some laptops though, you won't be able to get past the voltage control lock. In that case, you won't be able to undervolt, but you should still be able to play around with the other settings mentioned in the video (such as adjusting Power Limits (PL))
My God, I should've done this *months* ago! Went from resting temp of 70 down to 50, and load temp of 100 down to 75-80, with practically no performance loss. Hopefully, my long trials of random, seemingly incurable framerate drops are over.
It's worth noting though that TS has updated its UI since this video, and things seem to have been moved, changed or renamed. An updated video *might* be warranted, but I got along just fine myself. :)
Thanks so much!
Any updates on those framerate drops?
@@russiachan2 all i had to do was follow this video up to the TPL stuff, which I couldnt do, and it almost completely cured my hard stutters. not completely, but some games (of DRG) have zero issues, some do, but used to be all. now it's uncommon (daily, but i play a lot)
crazy how this is still one of the best tutorial videos despite the UI being changed in the newer version.
Some people dig straightforward videos that lasts up to 3 minutes at most, while some desires for detailed tutorials that lasts up to 20 minutes on average. This however, stands between the two and the one I liked the most. Every significant feature is explained briefly and steps ain't gonna mess with an amateur's brain. No convulsive intros, no plugs, no bullshit - just your rare detailed tutorial that wouldn't eat too much of your precious time.
Undervolting may seem overwhelming and intimidating, but with the right videos like this, you'd be giving your laptop's CPU one hell of a favor.
I've nothing to do so I decided to write a short review as send-off to my consistently 93°C CPU temp while gaming.
Went from 3hrs to 5hrs of battery life on my locked cpu laptop. Wish I could under-volt but the further steps described here are exactly what I needed!
how did ur battery improved that much
Really appreciate the dum down version of explaining throttle stop. Kudos man
only watched one vid about undervolting but so far this one's perfect
This video put my thermals down significantly to 50s. Thanks for this quick tutorial.
Hi, could you make a video with the latest version of Throttlestop? some options don't appear in the current version and I'm not really sure if I did everything correctly :D
Overall, really good video and explanation
This is probably the best explained video on throttlestop I've seen
The battery on my MS Surface Pro of about 7 years died last year and just recently the CPU slowed such that programming on it was a nightmare. With ThrottleStop it appears that I am now able to resume using my laptop as normal - or until it burns up ; ) Thanks for making ThrottleStop available.
Thanks a lot for this guide!, Just by adjusting the speedshift to 16 I reduced my temp from 70 to 35-40 and stopped my i9 from throttling from top speed to 800 every minute!! didn't even need to lower the voltage
can you do an updated version of this guide? it seems there are differences in the settings and layouts that are confusing
9.5 is out and would love an updated guide
@@StonerGamingParadise totally agree, specially with the new CPU's (P & E cores)
Thanks a loooooot!!!!!! Best guide i ever seen. Short but informative!
i went from 93° to 79° !! Thank you so much !
bro do we need to .make it as scheduled task when laptop starts or does throttle stop values stays where it should be
best throttle stop video guide no doubt
This guide is fucking awesome. Makes everything in an otherwise confusing program clear as day. Thank you so much!
fr this app literally presumes a computer engineering degree lol
Great Video that helped me get better gaming performance. But I'm a bit confused about the TS Bench. I have a i7-8565U and can undervolt my CPU Cache to ~-90mV till i start getting Errors. But when i started to undervolt my Core more i was able to get -250mV with no Errors, but was afraid to test further. So my Question is: Can you test with TSBench if you are stable if you only increase the undervolting for the core but not the cache? Since -90mV and -250mV seem like an insane difference. I haven't started changing TPL (because of the new UI) and i get the red "Power" Limit indicator during tests. If you need any info just ask. Help would be greatly appreciated
I have the same thing happening, have a thinkpad with i7 8650u and the core is at -260 ish however the cache can only go to -90
UPDATE: pushed core to -400. cache is still -90 and everything else is -50
Update 2: -500 holy shit
@@minty_x thats geniunely insane its not crashed half a volt under? wow
@@AllfatherBlack I managed to get to -1000mv. Idk what's up but it has not crashed even when playing age of empires 2
@@minty_x did your heat decrease alot using -1000?
@@Pedrao5115 surprisingly no. Only a couple degrees
Great video! Best video I’ve ever seen in regards to explaining the settings and what they do. I have a question
If I’m getting the PL2 notification, do I need to increase or decrease the value that is set?
I’m currently using a i9750H
PL2 means that you are hitting the limit of how much power you allow the cpu to take. If you have the thermal headroom, you can increase the power limit. Increasing the PL will increase the wattage consumed, so it will increase heat output but you will also get better performance because the cpu is getting more power.
So the answer to your question is it depends on what you want to do. Hitting power limit is completely normal as all you're doing is limiting the amount of power the cpu is allowed to take. If you let the CPU take as much power as it wants, you're gonna thermal throttle due to too much heat output. If you want cooler temps at the cost of lowered performance, you can decrease the PL
@Eternity thanks for letting me know, I'll look into it. Did you make sure your settings are correct first?
This guide was awesome. I was able to get my temp below the 90's. I think I just need some new thermal paste and some cleaning but it's helped a bit. I did get a blue screen trying to go -170 or -180. So I think -160 is the sweet spot. Still says it's thermal throttling, though. lol
Thanks! I have a very hot laptop (Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 with an i7-4710HQ) and this helped me make its thermals... not as atrocious. A few notes from my experience:
1. Before increasing the undervolt, you should test the laptop in real action. I tried to undervolt the CPU by 75 mV and it seems stable in tests, but when playing PUBG I had the computer crash.
2. For some laptops, such as mine, the "Disable Turbo" option is useful and actually a game changer. My CPU throttles HARD when in turbo boost even when undervolted, so keeping it at base frequency makes the performance way more stable.
i have lenovo ideapad gaming 3 i cant unlock adjustable voltage
explain every setting. I want to learn everything and you have the best video on YT about throttle stop so please make a video explaining each option and setting.
For undervolting, I've seen forums mention that Intel GPU and iGPU unslice should have the same undervolt.
Same goes for CPU core, CPU cache, and system agent (although I'm not sure about the last one, since I can't find anything about it on the internet)
amazing video, really helped me understand my way around throttlestop, thank you for making this
thank you for this great guide, my CPU is locked so could adjust volts but still a great guide non the less for me, any hope of doing a updated guide given the UI change?
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Undervolted before but never used this app so thank you. But for me I have CPU P cache & CPU E cache. Undervolt one, both, neither? Thanks.
Even after so much time and DELL disabling VOLT control through subsequent BIOS updates, managed to get it all to work in my dell xps.
made me go from a thermally incompetent machine to one that never throttles and is better performing + stable.
For Lenovo Legions, will Performance settings (High Performance/Balanced) override Lenovo Vantage Thermal Settings (Performance/Balance/Quite)? And will Throttlestop Performace sttings be applied at all if the first box under Performance stays unticked?
Gracias me sirvió para limitar el turbo y bajar la temperatura en un Intel i5 10300h
I need some help. On my Legion Y540-15IRH with an i7-9750H, I’m having thermal throttling even with -150mV for an undervolt on both the core and cache. I even tried just setting the all core to 4.0 so that none of the cores would boost higher than that, and whej I run Aida64 and Heaven benchmark (stable and doesnt crash with undervolt) I get serious throttling dropping clocks down to 3.0-3.5. CPU consistently reaches 94-100 degrees.
I’m using Throttlestop 9.5 newest, which is mostly the same except for a few things. What else can I change to get better temps?? Should I make the all core lower like 3.7GHz? Didnt mess with the TPL values, believe long PL1 is 70 and short PL2 is 107 by default
Hi, could you do a updated guide for 9.6? Some features at least for me can't be found. Thanks!
Thank you a lot. As i have Acer and did have big problem with Temp did have like 88 'C was very hot now thanks to you is 70 'C it is of course a lot but better. Was curios can i lower temperature even more ? I have two more questions, first, when I made an offset voltage on Core and Cache and restarted the laptop, only these settings seemed to return to 0 and not to -70, do you know why? and when is set to Performance Mode but i don't want the speed at 3.4Ghz all the time, but let's say as a Balance little bit lower than little bit higher can i do that and how?
I have an 11th gen (113567) and the fivr settings are all grayed out. Any fix or is it due to plundervolt and not fixable?
Will there be any difference if i dont do undervolting? Mines locked so i cant configure it
Thank you jedi! I have one question on running TS at startup: I have set everything as shown in the forum thread linked in the description, but I never find TS in the tray area and have to start it manually. Is it possible that, on Windows 11, there's a different procedure for running it at startup?
I'm not aware of Win 11 changing the functions of task scheduler. Have you checked if TS was maybe running in the background in task manager, but not showing up in the tray area? If TS is shown as running in the task manager, you may have unchecked the "notification area icon" option in the TS options menu.
I don't remember what I did exactly, but now I have ThrottleStop running at Windows startup and it shows in the tray area. Anyway, thank you for your time!
i have a Problem with my Gigabyte G5 Mf, my GPU (RTX 4050) isnt fully utilized and i dont know what i should do. i also have a I5 12500h btw
Could you explain more the PL1 and PL2 values? How do they affect performance/temperature and how do we calculate PL2 (PL1 is just your total voltage during GPU + CPU tests if I understood you correctly)?
So you'll first want to understand the differences between voltage, amps, and wattage. If this was a water pipe, volt is the water pressure, amps is how wide the pipe is, and wattage is the total water flow. A wider pipe would of course allow more water to flow, and higher water pressure would also allow more water to flow.
Therefore, wattage is calculated as volt * amps = watts. Watts can be thought of as how much electricity is being used.
Power Limit: how many watts the component is allowed to use. For example, a CPU with a 45w power limit will be limited to 45w of power max. For intel, these are separated into PL1 and PL2. PL2 is the short term power limit, where a processor can use more power for a short amount of time before PL1 kicks in, which is the long term power limit. For example, a CPU with a PL1 of 45w may boost to 60w with PL2 for 30 seconds before dropping down to 45w.
As the name implies, this is how much power your cpu is allowed to have, which means more power = more performance. However, all that electricity is energy, and that energy gets converted to heat in the processor. So the more electricity you use, the more heat you produce.
More wattage = more performance = more heat
@@jedi22300 So if a CPU has a PL2 = 45w and it consumes 45w under a stress test, enabling Power Limit Control and making PL2 = 60w (for example) won't change anything, the CPU isn't gonna consume more than 45w in a long test anyway? You just can just reduce the PL to decrease performance/heat, that's it?
@@slavavr Increasing the PL2 to 60w will only increase the short term power limit to 60w. So it'll allow it to pull 60w for a little bit but that's it. If you want more performance over long term, you'd want to increase both PL2 and PL1 to 60w so that it can pull 60w
@@jedi22300 I wrote PL2 instead of PL1, sorry. So if a CPU pulls 45w under a stress test and you increase PL1 to 60w it won't change anything, the CPU won't consume more wattage anyway?
I have got an 8750H I am trying to undervolt rn, and with power limit disabled my CPU is getting 60w under a stress test in AIDA. I tried to enable power limit and set PL1 to 70w for example (and kept PL2 = 90w), and it changed nothing, the wattage stayed the same, around 60w.
I watched a couple throttlestop videos where the guys set their PL1 to the wattage their CPUs consumed in a stress test, but is that no different from not enabling power limits at all?
Hi bro, i stuck because cannot tick "Unlock Adjustable Voltage" so i cannot adjust them. How can i fix it?
hzy i have a problem can't adjust my cpu voltage like i cannot press 'unlock' any tips ?
Bro is you close this app instead of minimize then it will work?
yeah i need this for my razorblade 16, thanks
hi, my Unlock adjustable voltage is locked. how can I unlock it? I have a Gigabyte G5 KC laptop
edit: i fixed it with insyde tool. thanks for the video
I like the way how the whole davecord viewers r just disliking the video 🤣
Can you make a updated version btw very good video rlly helped me :)
But throttlestop changed a bit 0:
Does this tool change only values in windows? Or does it modify the bios/uefi?
Aorus 15p xc have problems with overheating and blackscreen in many games, on low/medium/high settings. Cant undervolt, cant turn on it in that program, why ?
I don't have the box that says "Disable and lock turbo power limits". Is this located somewhere else in 2024? The process as shown still works for me, just wondering if it's something to dig more for or not.
What if Turbo FIVR control is all locked for me?.. cant adjust anything in there
Amazing tutorial!
Very VERY and I can't stress this enough VERY FUCKING HELPFUL VIDEO went from 88c down to 71-73c while gaming! Easy to understand and so fucking glad to find this video
Using this for GF66-11UE 11th gen CPU still Speedshift isn't available, is it because of a newer version of throttlestop. How should I proceed?
Recently (well, literally a year and a few months ago) I factory reset my laptop, after doing so undervolting has done absolutely nothing to my performance, before I was getting maybe even 3x the fps I usually get, but now there is pretty much no difference, I've seen nobody else have this problem.
Update: I have fixed the problem, I had to disable any "windows features" to do with virtuality and disable intel virtuality features in the BIOS.
Update 2: Performance has improved a lot but I get some HUGE throttling and my laptop heats up more than usual, any help?
Any updates
on update 2: try disabling Turbo Boost
How do u disable windows features and intel virtuality features?
Hey so this odd thing is going on for me so before I had the cpu core and cache at around -100mv each, When I tried to lower cpu core to something absurd like -250mv to test if it was acually applying the laptop crashed. Now I have my cpu cache at -85mv and My cpu core can just go to -250mv -1000mv without crashing but obviously its not actually going to those numbers, how would I get it to start crashing again at high undervolts? Also should I have like -85mv cache and the biggest core undervolt possible or like 90-mv cache and -110mv core?
Just the video needed to see. Although, I think something is wrong with my CPU. Doesn't matter if I change anything on TPL, it keeps showing in "Limit Reasons" the PL2 in yellow and Thermal at the Core column after every test bench, also the the EDP Other is always showing on RING. I'm doing something wrong?
for example my laptop I7-8550U cpu could go down to -500vm on core, but does that mean that the lower the voltage the greater the performance?
You did the tweaks for both performance and battery, is it necessary to do for both or just performance as I mostly play games??
Nah no need to touch the battery setting if you're just gonna stay plugged in
Hey i got a question, what are the values for undervolting core i5 8300h? I'm using a Dell G7. Specs are gtx 1050 4gb vram, 16gb ram
could you please make a video explaining the tpl part? my laptop is thermal throttling when I did the test you put in the desc, and I don't know what to do 😅
What if the FIVR control area is grayed out and I can't select anything
when talking about the power limits numbers do you mean the numbers next to clamp or in miscellaneous? My misc numbers are Min 1 and max 35 while the clamp numbers are exact as yours.
nice guide thank you!
Great video! You explained the program better than anyone else. I have a question, I have a core i7-9700k CPU, by default my PL1 is 95 and PL2 is 210.
Are my numbers ridiculously high? I think my CPU overheating problem is because of my high PL’s.
What do you think?
Is this for a laptop? and what model is it? And when you say overheating, can you elaborate on that?
@@jedi22300 I have a PC. By overheating I mean, when gaming my CPU temps easily reach 70-80c,sometimes past 90c and in very cpu intensive games even 100c!
I have been using throttlestop for a couple of months and undervolting the CPU core and cache won’t do much for my temp’s, the most impacting for me is reducing the turbo ratio limits by 2,3 numbers. With this change my temp’s never go higher than 80c under max load But the downside is of course it decreases the performance a bit, so I am curious that maybe my PL1 and PL2 are the culprit?
@@parsatww7115 100c is definitely hot! Actually if it's a desktop PC, I wanna ask if you've looked at the hardware first to cool it? Desktop PCs generally have pretty good cooling. Things to consider are dusty heatsinks and fans, fans that aren't running fast enough, old/bad thermal paste, inadequate airflow (could opening the side panel improve thermals?)
If it's a really cheap heatsink or whatnot, then yeah I'd say your power limit is the culprit. If your computer is overheating at 95 watts of load, then you can lower that. However again though I will say that desktops can *usually* handle more than 95w without overheating so I'd definitely look into some of the things I mentioned earlier
@@jedi22300 You have made some good suggestions, I will definitely check the fans and thermal paste,Thanks.
The weird thing is, my GPU temps are excellent, I have never seen my GPU even reach 70c when overclocked and under heavy load. The only problem is the CPU, in my opinion the PC case has decent airflow because I can feel the air flowing when I look closely inside my pc lol.
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Please is it possible to undervolt Intel i5 13500H on my Lenovo LOQ laptop? I cannot click anything in FIVR, all options are grayed out. I heard that intel disabled undervolting for CPUs of 12th and 13th generation. Any idea?
Finally understood throttlestop at last but still I got a problem on my laptop ..... I have a MSI GF65 Thin RTX 3060 i5 10500h and I did some undervolting with some videos I found from UA-cam but my games keep crashing when I play them probably within 10-15 minutes during gameplay.... Can you suggest some particular reason that it happens as said?
Does it only crash if you have the undervolt applied? You can test by removing the undervolt and seeing if crashes continue.
If it only crashes with the undervolt applied, it probably means you undervolted too much
how come I can set both cpu core and cpu P cache to -1000mV without any errors as a I5 12600k. Is it bugged for me or not activating the undervolt for me?
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hey i have problem, i cannot check the unlock adjustable voltage box. so i cannot adjust anything at all. how can i fix this? and whats the problem in the first place?
It could be that your laptop model or CPU has a locked voltage control, which means undervolting has been blocked by either your laptop's manufacturer or by intel. It's possible you may be able to unlock it somehow depending on the laptop though. You can try to google your laptop's model and how to undervolt it and see if anyone else online has figured out a solution.
can i set a maximum cpu clock speed and then set the voltage? if yes, how can i do it? I have an i7 10750 and I would like to maximize the clock speed to 3.5 GHz so as to minimize its use and keep temperatures low and stay with high performance
I know this video has its time, but i have a question, im having EDP Other always showing (yellow) on "GPU" and "RING", and sometimes it also shows on "CPU" its always yellow. Is it okay to have this (my computer lifespan wont get affected), if not, is possible to solve?
Thanks :)
Hmm, what CPU is this? You can try increasing the PP0 current limit (in TPL) and ICCMax values (in FIVR) and see if that gets rid of it.
Otherwise, it also just seems to be normal to have EDP other showing up (as long as it's not actively red and on all three columns)
I have a core i7 11700kf processor, I have appeared in the limits EDP OTHER? what does it mean ? and what should I do to remove it, oh yes, it is yellow not red
in the FIVR above the CPU core and the CPU cache instead of saying FIVR control it says not available and i cant change any of the values for the CPU core or cache, is there a way to solve this
ty this helped alot
Thank you so much! My cpu used to be at 100 and now it’s at 50
the fivr section for cpu core and cpu cash says locked, is there a way to fix this?
Hello, did you find a solution to this? i have the same problem
Hey, first time user here. How do I access undervolting? it's kinda locked and I can't change any variables in voltage..?
Its locked by manufacturers search a guide to unlock
I need this. My laptop is like a jet plane and it is making me nuts
Hey man I've watched this vid a few times and from my understanding you say to not mess with Turbo Ratio limits because it can cause massive performance lost and you recommend instead lowering turbo time limits? I notice my temps get really low with turbo ratio limits tweaks but my fps suffers so much from it. TLDR : How can I lower temps using power limit controls and turbo power limits. Instead of messing with Turbo Ratio limits causing FPS loss
I would also want to know why he said that. My understanding is that there is no clear answer. He might not be Throttlestop expert but just sharing what works best for him.
@@fanatic632 a updated video would be amazing since this video is 2 years old
@@4givenEx Yup.
Is it ok to skip TPL and not worry about the turbo boost if I got my temps down with the earlier steps, or will this screw things up?
You don't have to change the settings if yo'ure happy with the way things are!
U deserve more views and likes mate!❤️
hey dude, i know its 2 years later, but i just want to ask should i touch any other profile you didnt mention like game for example, or just performance and battery profiles are good enough?
You can use the other profiles too if you want. I just tend to use the 2 I showed.
@@jedi22300 is it going to be the same setting as you mentioned or I can change my self?
thank you!
is this guide still good for the 9.5 version?
Cant lower voltage. Have a gigabyte auros 5 se4, is it because the bios is locked?
Hey, Can I under volt the Dell G3 3500? I have an i7-10750h, and my gpu is a 1660ti. Any help would be appreciated!
Edit Yeah Its locked for me sadly.
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Why
After doing the undervolt,, do we need to always open the app when we use the computer? Or after doing this , undervolt is applied until you change the settings again ?
You'll need to launch TS every time in order for the undervolt to apply. You can make that process automatic which I show at the end of the video. If you delete Throttlestop, it'll remove your undervolt the next time you boot up
how can I uninstall ThrottleStop? It's not neither in Program Files nor in Add Remove programs
@@TechnoVillage2024 you just have to delete the throttlestop folder and then restart your computer to uninstall. Where that throttlestop folder is depends on where you put it when you first downloaded it. I put it in my program files folder, but you might put it somewhere else, or maybe it's still in your downloads folder?
Thanks - 15 degress and sane performance edit: i7 7700 -100.6 mV
Thanks dude, everyone understood (almost) but the autoload method with Windows does not work. I would be glad if you help me solve it. And the video is great!
Спасибо чувак, все понял ( почти) но способ автозагрузки вместе с виндовс- не работает. Буду рад, если поможешь её решить. А так видео- супер !
Hey, are you talking about using task scheduler? If the guide was hard to follow, you can look up something similar to "how to launch a program using task scheduler." Task scheduler can launch any program in windows. In this case we are launching throttlestop. Hopefully that helps.
wonderful vid!
it's great for my use Dell 3050 stuck at a low speed (known silly Dell condition) , now i made it run @startup folder and for my problem Dell works, in fact I got real improvement from 2.7Ghz to 3.1GHz and not fixed for ever at .79Ghz!, ok question??? how do I reopen the GUI interface as TS is already running from startup, it says "cannot open as TS already running" Is there a work around as I'd now like to see the chip temps / play with it about from auto-boot !! ? Hope this makes sense ! Thanks for this amazing program I didnt know that you could get at the CPU/clocks in that way !!!!
TS should be in your taskbar (you might have to click the little up arrow to show more open apps). If it's not there, then your TS setting might be set to not show icon in taskbar. To change that, you can close TS from task manager, reopen it, then go to options and change that setting.
@@jedi22300 ok great, thanks, was tired missed that flag due to 35C heat all day and defunct Honda car ... nice software with surprising results. I am buying more of these for the lab (radio) so I dont have to put up with old large noisy boxes, I'll see how I do or if this was just a one off 🙂
@@jedi22300 ok ill try that ive just upped all my PCs to windoze 10 (for free) so many things have changed as per usual, as I used legacy taskbars/start stuff before, thanks 🙂
In the lastest version of throttlestop the Enable Speed Shift when throttlestop starts option isn't there anymore, does it change anything ?
I have an older 4710HQ. Problem is with 90w power brick, gaming would starve the 860m gpu of power. Should I underclock?
Edit: 850m with 4G DDR3 VRAM
90w?! What laptop came with such a small power brick jeez.
You can try and decrease the power limit. The power limit is how many watts the CPU is allowed to pull, so decreasing this should decrease the amount of power the CPU uses, which is what you're looking for. I don't exactly recall how TS worked on 4th gen processors, but if you're not able to control the power limit, then underclocking will also result in less power used.
I'm not sure if this helps, but perhaps a larger power brick is worth looking into? It is possible that the laptop software will prevent over 90w of usage regardless, but here's an article just in case you're interested askleo.com/can_i_use_a_power_supply_with_a_higher_wattage_rating_on_my_laptop/
@@jedi22300
Its a "multimedia" Dell Inspiron, didn't cut to be a gaming laptop I guess.
Hey thanks so much for the resources here! Hope you don't mind that I sent a discord invite too. BTW should an upgrade to 130w be sufficient? 150w and 180w is just too expensive for my budget. EDP Current and PL1&2 are what blinks red during the stress tests. During gaming load, FPS would just tank for around 30 seconds then goes back up.
@@agoogleuser9025 Yes 130w should be enough for those specs. I won't really accept random friend requests sorry, but you can feel free to ping me in my server or DM me.
FPS tanking sounds a bit like something related to thermals. You may want to make sure you're not thermal throttling the cpu/gpu while playing
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8:22 I only have thermal problems if the CPU is in Turbo mode, so can i just change this section and press apply?
If your CPU is overheating, then yeah I would lower the amount of power the CPU is allowed to have so it doesn't get as hot
you literally just stabilized my cpu, not getting any errors on throttle stop!
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