What's the difference between op amp? (OPA2132,NE5532,JRC4558,5532DD)
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
- 00:43 Frequency Responses 00:51 JRC 4558D. 01:00 NE 5532. 01:30 4558 VS 5532. 02:06 OPA2132. 02:48 Same Number NE5532, JRC5532. 03:13 TL072, JRC072
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04:03 Arabesque -Debussy (NE5532)
05:01 Arabesque -Debussy (JRC4558)
05:59 Arabesque -Debussy (JRC5532)
06:56 Arabesque -Debussy (OPA2132)
07:55 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (JRC4558)
08:17 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (NE5532)
08:39 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (JRC5532)
09:00 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (OPA2132)
09:23 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (JRC4558)
09:53 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (NE5532)
10:23 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (JRC5532)
10:53 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (OPA2132)
Thank you to everyone who watches this video.
I tried dubbing for the first time by borrowing a microphone from my friend.
It's been a long time since I spoke in English.
I want to clearly convey the content, but the pronunciation and volume are not uniform due to personal mental problems.
I've been re-recording it for a week, and this is the better version.
Even if I use the gate weakly, my sound is cut off.
So please understand that there is noise because the gate is not used.
I'm sorry. I'm trying to get over it.
So I've added captions, so I hope it helps.
I hope it will get better and better.
The original plan contained several engineering contents.
As I made it as planned, 15 minutes were filled with boring stories.
I'll put the cut in another video little by little.
The stereo sound source was divided into left and right mono channels and recorded.
Recorded at 96 Khz to reduce losses as much as possible.
I don't think any more Hz is meaningful in a UA-cam environment.
Therefore, DAW did not panning separately.
No plug-ins were used for the sound source.
The Opamp used in the test is NE5532, JRC5532DD, JRC4558D, OPA2132.
I think OPA2132 is very good because it can be used anywhere.
NE5532 is also a good alternative, but its electrical properties make it difficult to use.
However, considering the cost, there is nothing like NE5532.
If you don't feel the difference in sound in the comparative hearing, you don't need to replace the opamp right now.
It is wise to replace it when you feel the difference.
The sound source used an available ArtList sound source.
I tried to put in World Music or EDM.
However, World Music did not have a favorite sound source, and EDM is not very meaningful to use for comparative videos.
So I chose my favorite musical instrument.
If there is a genre you want, please let me know.
I will try to reflect it in the future video.
The comparison video has found a way to improve with the current equipment.
So it will be possible to compare it with a little better sound.
I hope it will be helpful information for those who like music.
I hope you enjoy your music life.
Artlist License
Raphaël Angelini - Nocturne in E flat Major Opus 9 No.2
Arabesque (Debussy) by Pianissimo_1.1
In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3
Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1
#opamp #NE5532 #JRC4558 #JRC5532 #OPA2132
It simply depends on the design application. Replacing an op amp is more likely to add distortion as the Equipment you have is designed around the opamp inside. Most people don't have enough electronic knowledge to do this. Every mixing desk in the audio chain has gone through hundreds of NE5532. So you put in an unsuitable JFet OPamp in a little box in your living room, you hear some high frequency noise and think it sounds better because you paid more for it, Unless you can test an improvement you are probably making things worse. Plenty of High End audio use Philips / Signetics NE5532 because they are perfect for audio,
Thx🎉
Excellent video! You present the same set of op amps I was researching, and you gave frequency response curves, a multitude of music genre, and an artistic, professional presentation! I've watched this video probably a half dozen times because of it's content as well as presentation.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for this valuable comparison... Nice Rock part
I prefer NE5532 . Piano is extremely demanding to reproduce (NE5532 has EXCELLENT but not fatiguing "attack") and I have the track (in "Day dreaming" CD) so I have "a reference" without YT compression, to compare. I also quite often use LM4562. Much faster than NE5532 and much more capable to drive "more current demanding loads" but also no "fatiguing sound" at all.
OPA 2132 👍
That was my choice too OPA 2132
Great video, i am glad to have purchased several 5532DD
Yes, I totally agree with that. Not all ears hear the same
You mean the open loop freqeuncy response, of course. And what about the slew rate and the noise shae... However to my hifi experience, NE5532 with reasonable negative feedback is fully transparent in the audio band.
man your Video is Really Good.... i hope you will get more views for more content.
Started a personal project for uploading and it's taking too long.
I didn't know it would take this long :(
There are things I've been thinking of uploading, so I'll upload other contents first. Thank you for your interest.
@@findtomyownsound okay man. i will waiting your content like this. i have interest about op amp,. or audio thing.
i already subscribe and on the notification to wait your another content
For me the JRC 4558D has the best sound, for me the most natural and dynamic sound. I have listen to this in a acoustic treated room with expensive studio monitor.
5532dd best the music that plays was created on it XD
Scale matters!
1:10 ... Measuring the 4558 at 12db of gain (voltage gain of 4) against the 5532 at 0 gain is not a realistic comparison.
Interesting Video. But there come some Questions in my mind. Isn't it also a matter of the Design around these Opamps? Arent's these different Input types, like Fet (OPA2132), JFET (TL 072), Biplar BJT (NE5532) CMOS (OPA1656). Arent there different input resistances between these opamps? Don't have some internal Frequency compensated, and some need external compensation? Is it a good idea just to switch an opamp in a circuit between these types? Couldn't it be, that they won't work properly?
How about for active low pass filter sir whic opamp is the best? Thank you
Can you do one with Muses, sparkos & burson v6 too please
You probably don't think he's a naive who will pay that much for opamps that differ only in that they play in class A
We're also at the mercy of the you-tube compression algorithm.
Theres no issue with UA-cam compression anymore. it can stream 96Khz if you encode correctly.
I wouldn't even use the 80s Op Amps as an offset servo anymore.
Personaly i use 2068DD as replacement for various older low cost opamps in vintage audio gear.
Its pretty universal and easy to implement. However,of equal importance are the passive parts surrounding
it. Some more modern opamps are clearly better when it comes to noise and THD,but in practice its not worth
the investment in most cases. Anyway only opamp rolling doesnt do the trick in most cases.
"Of equal importance are the passive parts surrounding it". Yes, absolutely. OpAmp rolling doesn't do the trick. You also need gold plated jacks and pure 101% silver cables.😁
I'm not familiar with audio electronics. Comparing different chips without mentioning the circuit they are used in is confusing to me. The frequency response of the amplifier changes based on the applied feedback. Is it some kind of standard circuit? I'm sure you're not using the opamps in open-loop configuration.
Absolutely! I was going to post the same comments. Those response graphs are useless without knowing the external circuit design. Just for starters, what is the gain these OPAMPS under test? And then doing listening comparisons through the UA-cam audio chain?
@@user-xc1uy4js3e it's nice to know I'm not crazy. I hope they are all talking about these opamps in the context of a reference circuit topology, otherwise this whole comment section makes no sense.
I can't speak for headphone amps, I never use them.
But in the new mini-amps everyone is going gaga over, the ne5532 chips are almost universally used as phase splitters to drive the TPA32xx series chips balanced inputs. Some have a little bit of gain, 3db is typical, most operate at unity gain.
At unity gain the frequency response will be that of the chip's Gain/Bandwidth product (AKA unity gain bandwidth) and thanks to the massive feedback used it will be ruler flat. In this configuration both the 4558 and 5532 chips will give you extremely low distortion and perfectly flat response, well beyond a megahertz.
In fact, I've seen 4558 chips passing a 6 volt, 1mhz square wave on my breadboard circuits. The 5532 will do it too, but the input impedance is much lower, leading to some low frequency roll off below 10hz.
@@MrPolluxxxx
The comparison is valid in that chip-flipping does not alter the surrounding circuits... so it is testing different chips in the same circumstance.
What is not realistic is comparing the response at 12db of gain with that at 0 gain. (Look carefully at the scaling on those graphs.) Not the same chip, not the same circuit ... no premise for comparison.
@Douglas_Blake_579 Yes, that's true. But I dont think it's very meaningful. We don't know what circuit or what device (I don't remember if he says what device he's using) he's flipping chips in, so we only know what difference it makes in his very specific case. In other circuits, it might not even make any difference.
OPA 2132
JRC4558 is very old opamp, and prefix JRC means nothing, it is a just generic 4558 opamp, afaik... ))
The chip is an RC4558 ... made by a number of companies with NE, LM and other brand prefixes. It's still around and it's dirt cheap because literally millions of them are sold every year. The J prefix from ArtChip indicates it is 22 volt tolerant where the standard chips are only 15 volts.
Always thought it stands for Japan Radio Corp!?
1:11 These graphs are totally made up. Here it shows the NE5532 with 0dB gain at 30Hz (the left-hand portion of the graph, why not 20Hz like True Audiophiles would want ...), but the JRC4558 has a gain of over 12dB. These would have to be in different circuits for this to be true, so it's clearly not a valid comparison.
Sorry, folks, you need to learn a minimum amount about electronics to have a clue what's true and what's not.
Yep ... absolutely correct.
What a bunch of crap...
This is a completely misleading video. NE5532 and JRC4558 are really low fi op-amps, designed more that 50 years ago. At the time NE5532 was the best op-amp out there, but
that is a very long ago. Try to feed it with a square wave and you will see that is is ringing like a bell. Compared to for instance a LME4562 it is complete junk, and discrete op-amps
are even (much) better. I hate that people who don´t know better, keeps promoting such a shitty low cost component.
Try to listen with your ears, not your backside, and you will hear that NE5532 can ruin every audio signal.
5532 ruins everything, so listen to music created and processed on these opamps in professional recording studios😂😂😂
It's a good thing audiophools don't know how many hundreds of opamps the signal goes through before even reaching the most sacrilegious thing known to man: ADC. Most of those are 5532s, LM833s and NJM4580s. Sometimes even TL074s. Perhaps it's the superconductor cables that let you hear the difference?